DLP or LCD?

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hairyferry

13-01-2006 01:35:22

Soo, I have a 42" plasma I'm going to be selling soon. I want to get a larger TV, preferably 60+ and I'm looking into the DLP and the LCD TV's. The largest LCD I'm seeing is like 42". the largest DLP i've seen is 73 which is huge. Anyone have a suggestion or have one of these and can tell me what they think? I'm looking for the best picture possable and the bigger the better. I also want one that I can hang on the wall but I don't think I can with the DLP.

PS. The TV I have that I'm looking to sell is a Sony 42" plasma, I believe it is ED not HD about 4 months old.

Wolfeman

13-01-2006 02:29:24

DLP is a much better picture than LCD. If you need something skinny or you have to hang it on a wall, go with LCD but if you want a large screen and awesome picture, DLP is the way to go. Our 62" Mitsubishi Diamond DLP is awesome...

I have no idea how much that 42" Plasma EDTV will go for but I'm thinking not $4K so that puts the 60" ones out of reach. You probably are more in the $1.5-2K range. It that range you can get about a 30" LCD and about 40"+ DLP rear projection...

hairyferry

13-01-2006 02:57:12

Or how bout the 6 other plasma's i'm getting from the DIY, sell those and get a nice $10,000 one... lol, Thanks for your help wolfman +Karma

KeithA

13-01-2006 05:27:05

It's also important to consider the viewing environment and what you'll be using the display for. LCD screens tend to look better in ambient light due to their brightness, but plasmas are better in the dark and generally have better blacks and color accuracy and do better with fast motion. But LCDs tend to have higher resolution, so some people prefer them when viewing distance is restricted.

Also, with DLPs you'll need to replace their lamps every 3-4 years, which typically cost upwards of $150.

I'm not really an advocate for any given technology. They all have pros and cons. At the end of the day, it comes down to how you'll use it (e.g. movies, gaming, as a computer display, etc.) and what looks best to your eye.

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tracemhunter

13-01-2006 05:27:42

sell those other plasmas and get the 57" sharp aquos lcd. i think it is 1080p and will cost around 10g. i know sharp's 65" is like 20g. the 57" has a 4ms response time. i think sharp is going to start selling it in march. you could go with a dlp for a lot cheaper but if i had the money i would go for the sharp.

h3x

13-01-2006 09:05:32

LCD is a horrible choice if you will ever watch a movie or play a game with fast-paced scenes.. the refresh rate will not be able to keep up and you'll get jags.. Go with DLP..

I love my Samsung 42" DLP.. Samsung is the first to offer the DLP technology in their TVs and you can definetely notice the difference..

I was going to get a 48" Toshiba DLP but I looked at the two side-by-side.. Samsung is the best DLP set hands-down..

If you want the biggest picture, go with a DLP Front-End projector.. Those things have kick ass picture and is perfect for a home theater setup.

KeithA

13-01-2006 09:12:40

[quote23fb881b2c="h3x"]LCD is a horrible choice if you will ever watch a movie or play a game with fast-paced scenes.. the refresh rate will not be able to keep up and you'll get jags.. Go with DLP..[/quote23fb881b2c]

Except for the Sony Bravia XBR series, which has pretty good black levels and refresh rates. 2006 models across the major brands will further narrow the gap between LCD refresh rates and competing technologies, so be careful not to base your decision on outdated informatoin. (For example, many still believe that plasma TVs need to be "recharged" every few years--this isn't the case.)

Again, it isn't so much that a given technology is inherently better or worse than the others; you need to consider your viewing environment and the particular models that fall within your budget.

Wolfeman

13-01-2006 11:47:57

I'd rather get a 73" DLP for $7K than a 53" LCD for $10K...
http//www.mitsubishi-tv.com/televisions/details.asp?id=196

h3x

13-01-2006 11:52:05

I'd rather get a DLP Front-End Projector and Project the image to 73" than either of the two lol

tracemhunter

13-01-2006 12:20:02

lcd's are bad anymore. all of the good ones have a response time of under 6ms. the sony's look just a bit better than the upper end sharps but they arent worth the $700 premium.

Wolfeman

13-01-2006 12:34:53

[quote99e98ebf54="h3x"]I'd rather get a DLP Front-End Projector and Project the image to 73" than either of the two lol[/quote99e98ebf54]

If you have a totally dark room thats great but any light ruins projectors...

Kidd

13-01-2006 12:56:39

i have a sony lcd 50 inch and i have a samsung dlp i like both i tend to use the lcd becuase its in my room but the dlp chip u replace every 6 years not every 3 years. lcd lamps u replace like every 3.

KeithA

13-01-2006 12:57:25

[quoteb0aa7a29d5="Kidd"]lcd lamps u replace like every 3.[/quoteb0aa7a29d5]

Not in flat-panel LCD displays though...

Kidd

13-01-2006 13:12:34

i didnt mention rear projection oops X

whatisntseen

13-01-2006 13:15:28

only thing I would suggest is staying away from PLASMA (not LCD) plasmas use different halogens to lught up the screen, once those are gone youre screwed... give that that happens after say ~3000 hours, that isnt much more than 3-5 years of casual tv watching and maybe a couple of marathons for a couple thousand more than an lcd would be which would last you much longer.. for quality, go with DLP, its the only true digital television, the lamps arent much considering its triennial imaintenance.. lcds and plasmaas are the only two that can hang on the wall (they are both analog in the end though)

I forget where exactly, but I saw an hdtv guide on the net somewehre, it explained most technologies, save plasma and the pros and cons of each.. if you can find that youll be set

fawker

13-01-2006 14:13:11

[quote27c4a885a2="h3x"]LCD is a horrible choice if you will ever watch a movie or play a game with fast-paced scenes.. the refresh rate.[/quote27c4a885a2]

lcds dont have refresh rates

Wolfeman

13-01-2006 14:31:23

I'm gettting an LCD and a Plasma in the next 2 months from the DIY sites. I'm going to sell so I can go to Vegas ) and sell the Plasma when it comes and go get a nice 1080p LCD. I'll spend around $2K on the TV but its a few months away so we'll see whats out there at that point. If I had the room, I'd get a DLP rear-projeciton...

h3x

13-01-2006 15:41:42

[quote22b5b0d172="Wolfeman"][quote22b5b0d172="h3x"]I'd rather get a DLP Front-End Projector and Project the image to 73" than either of the two lol[/quote22b5b0d172]

If you have a totally dark room thats great but any light ruins projectors...[/quote22b5b0d172]

It doesn't have to be pitch black anymore.. I've expereinced amazing perfomance in rooms with some light.

Wolfeman

13-01-2006 15:46:53

But if the room has a lot of windows it gets a lot more washed out than an rear-projection, lcd, or plasma...

Gooogler

13-01-2006 16:06:04

Yeah, my experience with them is that if there are any windows at all I can't see a thing (Thats only when playing halo though) I have never used one for watching tv.

JesterxXx

14-01-2006 01:11:06

anyone have any opinions on this one?


InFocus ScreenPlay 61" DLP High Definition TV - SP61MD10 = $2,505 (shipped)


I don't know much about DLP or even HDTV really but it seems like a pretty good deal for a 61" DLP that can be mounted on a wall (just under 7" thick).


some guys pics http//www.woot.com/Forums/ShowPost.aspx?PostID=370841&PageIndex=8#371402


It was on woot a few nights ago and seems to come around every other week or so.

Wolfeman

14-01-2006 01:22:40

Haven't heard much about them but it seems like a good deal. 1080i not 1080p which isn't that big a deal. Good price...

CoMpFrEaK

14-01-2006 07:14:21

[quote596c0b3644="whatisntseen"]only thing I would suggest is staying away from PLASMA (not LCD) plasmas use different halogens to lught up the screen, once those are gone youre screwed... give that that happens after say ~3000 hours, that isnt much more than 3-5 years of casual tv watching and maybe a couple of marathons for a couple thousand more than an lcd would be which would last you much longer.. for quality, go with DLP, its the only true digital television, the lamps arent much considering its triennial imaintenance.. lcds and plasmaas are the only two that can hang on the wall (they are both analog in the end though)

I forget where exactly, but I saw an hdtv guide on the net somewehre, it explained most technologies, save plasma and the pros and cons of each.. if you can find that youll be set[/quote596c0b3644]

You're telling me if i left the plasma on 24/7 it would break in under a 1/2 year.... ?

agroman

14-01-2006 12:16:21

re 1080p ... what, if anything, can output 1080p?

my HDTV cable box and my xbox both output 720p or 1080i. the xbox360 doesn't support 1080p (yet).

until HD-DVD players and movies are released is there any source of true 1080p without upconverting a 720p/1080i signal?

furthermore, is it a good assumption that 1080p displays will drop in price as more devices support 1080p (upconverting or not)? i just don't see the reason to spend the extra $$$ on it now, unless you've found some really kick ass display that you want now, and don't plan on upgrading for a few years at least.

Wolfeman

14-01-2006 12:18:03

I agree I'm just saying if this is a TV you plan to keep for a lot of years, that is something to consider...

agroman

14-01-2006 12:26:38

[quoted6df758371="Wolfeman"]I agree I'm just saying if this is a TV you plan to keep for a lot of years, that is something to consider...[/quoted6df758371]

oh yeah. absolutely, because it will be supported someday.

i just wonder how noticable the difference will be... we're talking about very small lines and very quick refresh rates (for a full frame, 1/30th of a second compared to 1/60th; for 1080i and 1080p, respectively). on my DLP, i can't really tell any difference between 1080i and 720p. can you on yours, wolfeman?

Wolfeman

14-01-2006 12:32:40

Well you can see it with fast action like football. 720p is actually a little smoother. But its really tough to see. I don't care and will most likely get a 1080i just as long as its got HDMI and DVI-D...