Any other sites like Fusion cash????

Are there any other ones???

That is a dusturbing avy shock
(I don't think there any others btw)

Lots...just look around )

[quoted0083b2933]That is a dusturbing avy Shocked
(I don't think there any others btw)[/quoted0083b2933]

Agreed.

http//4nocash.com

[quote7de7f33f44="4NoCash.com"]http//4nocash.com[/quote7de7f33f44]

I'd like to remind you that that site is still Not Proven Legitmate... although it is doing well )

[quote585e87e7fe="Gooogler"](I don't think there any others btw)[/quote585e87e7fe]

Any other offers for cash sites?

You are an idiot.

I know freetech4me... grade A at anything4free, and I am a beta tester for the owner...

[quote13316146a2="Daggoth"][quote13316146a2="4NoCash.com"]http//4nocash.com[/quote13316146a2]

I'd like to remind you that that site is still Not Proven Legitmate... although it is doing well )[/quote13316146a2]

On other forums 4NoCash.com has been proven legit for months now. The Admin at FiPG has chosen to completely delete the 4NoCash.com forum here, but he refuses to tell me an actual reason other than "Because I decided I don't really want to support 4NoCash, especially for free."

Therefore, despite 4NoCash.com's actual legitimacy, it will never be legitimate here, because the Admin doesn't feel like it.

Hello Mike Scammerson lol

If the Admin here is such a jerk why not go back to A4F
I hear they have a thing for shady site owners....
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/b9d8248c1040f3914ff447df3d28044a.gif[" alt=""/img190b8e2706]

Plus we're all corrupt and blah blah blah...

I tried to come here in good faith and establish a better reputation here. That's impossible to do when people makes lies about how I'm a shady site owner (on every other forum, I have a graded forum, or I have had moderators express their approval) and mention old posts that I made months ago (which I have expressed apologies on but nobody recognizes it). I don't see how I could develop an impression of FiPG other than a negative one.

You'll find sites that have a similar method to FusionCash, but we're on a of a kind with everything we have )

Most of our offers have higher payouts than other sites, credit faster, and hey, the design is just nicer to look at than some of the other ones licoughli licoughli


edit Why do you want to find another?

[quote440457124a="srichter"]Most of our offers have higher payouts than other sites, credit faster, and hey, the design is just nicer to look at than some of the other ones licoughli licoughli[/quote440457124a]

Last time I checked, 4NoCash.com has higher payouts than FusionCash, instant crediting on many offers, and faster payouts. On the other hand, FusionCash seems to label offers instant which are not actually instant (Commission Junction).

I have a feeling Mike is picking a fight that he can't win...

FusionCash > 4NoCash - its that simple. I've largely avoided the whole 4NoCash debacle, but since you've come to our "house," you'll need to prove to us that you're worthy of our trust...and its not going to be easy. You can't just close down every time your business model fails (for whatever reason)...then expect to reopen with a new face and be met with open arms...business doesn't work like that. Try putting a little less time into scamming, and a little more time into planning...in the long run, you'll be better off that way.

[quotecb00522e4e="4NoCash.com"]
Last time I checked, 4NoCash.com has higher payouts than FusionCash[/quotecb00522e4e]

I checked ur site out and that is total BS. I would like to challenge u on that.

[quotecb00522e4e="srichter"]
edit Why do you want to find another?[/quotecb00522e4e]

For competition.

this is not a democracy, nobody is entitled to a forum here. why should i provide free advertising and users for a site i don't like? if my users all miss the 4nocash forum so much, i'm sure they'll find another site to move to. and besides, i gave you more reasons than that.

I think the Admin is just trying to eliminate his competition from this forum. Nothing wrong with that. I wouldnt won't competition either.

[quote837e77be14="Admin"]this is not a democracy, nobody is entitled to a forum here. why should i provide free advertising and users for a site i don't like? if my users all miss the 4nocash forum so much, i'm sure they'll find another site to move to. and besides, i gave you more reasons than that.[/quote837e77be14]

[quote897dc99a59="4NoCash.com"][quote897dc99a59="srichter"]Most of our offers have higher payouts than other sites, credit faster, and hey, the design is just nicer to look at than some of the other ones licoughli licoughli[/quote897dc99a59]

Last time I checked, 4NoCash.com has higher payouts than FusionCash, instant crediting on many offers, and faster payouts. On the other hand, FusionCash seems to label offers instant which are not actually instant (Commission Junction).[/quote897dc99a59]
Bullshit. RewardBull already has shown that you can have the payouts as high as you want, but in no way does that compensate for the legitimacy and trust of FusionCash or any other site for that matter. Here's where you probably come in and ask if I'm getting paid to support them. No. I don't get bonus points/money for posting a testimonial about a site in which I feel is excellent overall.

[quotea96c84c539="4NoCash.com"][quotea96c84c539="srichter"]Most of our offers have higher payouts than other sites, credit faster, and hey, the design is just nicer to look at than some of the other ones licoughli licoughli[/quotea96c84c539]

Last time I checked, 4NoCash.com has higher payouts than FusionCash, instant crediting on many offers, and faster payouts. On the other hand, FusionCash seems to label offers instant which are not actually instant (Commission Junction).[/quotea96c84c539]

I'm not going to get into a battle with you between our sites. We'll just keep doing what we're doing, and then we'll see who comes out on top. While I respect your want to better your image on the forums, and grow into a larger site, you're lacking many of the aspects that a larger business needs.

...and if you like casino sites, try

http//www.casinocashunlimited.com

liWink wink, nudge, nudgeli

Where's my funkin commision?

Yeah, CCU is good for casinos )

[quotee07b871eaa="tylerc"][quotee07b871eaa="Gooogler"](I don't think there any others btw)[/quotee07b871eaa]

Any other offers for cash sites?

You are an idiot.[/quotee07b871eaa]

The only legitimate one I know is FusionCash, how does that make me an idiot? I didn't say there weren't any others.

[quoteb55d5bbed4="FreeOffersNow"]I have a feeling Mike is picking a fight that he can't win...

FusionCash > 4NoCash - its that simple. I've largely avoided the whole 4NoCash debacle, but since you've come to our "house," you'll need to prove to us that you're worthy of our trust...and its not going to be easy. You can't just close down every time your business model fails (for whatever reason)...then expect to reopen with a new face and be met with open arms...business doesn't work like that. Try putting a little less time into scamming, and a little more time into planning...in the long run, you'll be better off that way.[/quoteb55d5bbed4]

"You can't just close down every time your business model fails" - The old 4NoCash Network Referral sites have closed. Their closure was forced by GoGreen Network. I had no say in it. In good faith I gave 250 points ($25) for each green ref that a user had. That's a hell of a lot more prizecube and gatita and all of those other closures paid out. I have had no complaints from anyone about the closure. The payout is fair.

My business model has never failed. The ref site closures were forced, and the points site has not failed. By definition, points sites can't really fail when operated correctly. The profit is made on the offer completion. Even if they order, you still profit.

"then expect to reopen with a new face and be met with open arms" - 4NoCash.com was formerly known as iTunesSongs4Free.com, which I announced here in February 2005. iTunesSongs4Free.com has been open longer than FusionCash. It has never closed, but it has changed names. It was first changed to http//points.4nocash.com after I acquired 4NoCash Network. When 4NoCash Network merged with GoGreen, I decided to continue using the 4NoCash name for my points site, which did not merge and has remained independent since I opened it in February.

On A4F I was met with open arms - everyone understood what was going on, and that iTunesSongs4Free.com was the exact same site as the new Points.4NoCash.com, just with a new name and new gifts instead of just iTunes cards.

The script used on 4NoCash.com, I wrote myself. It's called phpRewards, and I've sold it to at least a dozen other sites, including FreeTech4Me, AnyGift4Points, OrderIt4Points, and others.

[quote15e8e4b37f="ulenie"][quote15e8e4b37f="4NoCash.com"]
Last time I checked, 4NoCash.com has higher payouts than FusionCash[/quote15e8e4b37f]

I checked ur site out and that is total BS. I would like to challenge u on that.[/quote15e8e4b37f]

After checking again, I do notice a few offers on FusionCash that are paying a bit more than they do on 4NoCash.com, such as Earthlink.

[quote9f317d28ae="4NoCash.com"][quote9f317d28ae="ulenie"][quote9f317d28ae="4NoCash.com"]
Last time I checked, 4NoCash.com has higher payouts than FusionCash[/quote9f317d28ae]

I checked ur site out and that is total BS. I would like to challenge u on that.[/quote9f317d28ae]

After checking again, I do notice a few offers on FusionCash that are paying a bit more than they do on 4NoCash.com, such as Earthlink.[/quote9f317d28ae]

So....

[quote2a2914b5e2="johnjimjones"]Bullshit. RewardBull already has shown that you can have the payouts as high as you want, but in no way does that compensate for the legitimacy and trust of FusionCash or any other site for that matter.[/quote2a2914b5e2]
Did FusionCash earn that trust, or did they automatically receive it just because the owners are mods here? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember when FusionCash opened, it was added to "Proven Legitimate" rather quickly.

[quote76f839620e="Admin"]this is not a democracy, nobody is entitled to a forum here. why should i provide free advertising and users for a site i don't like? if my users all miss the 4nocash forum so much, i'm sure they'll find another site to move to. and besides, i gave you more reasons than that.[/quote76f839620e]

Why don't you like it? What's the real true reason why you don't like my site?

[quote76f839620e="ulenie"]I think the Admin is just trying to eliminate his competition from this forum. Nothing wrong with that. I wouldnt won't competition either.[/quote76f839620e]

Does the admin want FiPG known as a biased forum?

FYI, you can quote multiple people in one reply. Carry on.

[quotecdd05ceba7="Veek"]FYI, you can quote multiple people in one reply. Carry on.[/quotecdd05ceba7]
Sorry. I tried to edit it after I posted to make it one reply but it only lets me delete the last one and only if nobody replied to it.

[quotecdd05ceba7]http//www.casinocashunlimited.com[/quotecdd05ceba7]
For the offers that CCU and 4NoCash.com share, 4NoCash.com pays out more.

[quote41c07874b8="4NoCash.com"][quote41c07874b8="johnjimjones"]Bullshit. RewardBull already has shown that you can have the payouts as high as you want, but in no way does that compensate for the legitimacy and trust of FusionCash or any other site for that matter.[/quote41c07874b8]
Did FusionCash earn that trust, or did they automatically receive it just because the owners are mods here? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember when FusionCash opened, it was added to "Proven Legitimate" rather quickly.[/quote41c07874b8]
Both. They started out by helping the freebie community and then opened their own freesite in which they earned their credibility the same way any site does, satisfied customers. Them running this site only added to it. It's really ironic that you insult and doubt the very site you are desparately trying to advertise on.

[quote1d105b7b1b="4NoCash.com"][quote1d105b7b1b="johnjimjones"]Bullshit. RewardBull already has shown that you can have the payouts as high as you want, but in no way does that compensate for the legitimacy and trust of FusionCash or any other site for that matter.[/quote1d105b7b1b]
Did FusionCash earn that trust, or did they automatically receive it just because the owners are mods here? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember when FusionCash opened, it was added to "Proven Legitimate" rather quickly.[/quote1d105b7b1b]

I think more people trusted that 2 Admins from this forum, would be running a legit and stable business/site.

Who would you trust more; some random person who opens a site, or a site ran by 2 Admins on A4F? You can pretty much guarantee that it's legit and you won't be fucked about. Not that you do this, but sometimes it can be expected with newer, smaller sites.

I haven't heard one complaint about FusionCash that hasn't been resolved , nor have I heard a complaint about your site from someone who has actually used it. Everyone here who is saying it's shit or is a scam, but haven't tried it are just ignorant.

I haven't tried it but I'm not going to call it scam. First impressions mean a lot to some people, and apparently your first impression on this site and about this site (last year) wasn't a good one, which alot of people still hold against you, whether you have apologised or not.

onair (RewardBull owner) came here and was ripped apart, but he kept at it and now he is legit and people are doing his sites and he has a decent relationship with the people of this forum. I'd say just keep at it and do what you need to do. I think the more you stay here, talk about your site, help people with problems (whether you have a forum or not), the better off you'll be from it.

Keep on keepin' on. shrug

[quote8110e50593="johnjimjones"]Both. They started out by helping the freebie community and then opened their own freesite in which they earned their credibility the same way any site does, satisfied customers. Them running this site only added to it. It's really ironic that you insult and doubt the very site you are desparately trying to advertise on.[/quote8110e50593]

I'm not asking for special advertising or even for my forum back. All I want is to be treated fairly.

I just find it ironic and questionable that 4NoCash.com, a points site which is rated well on other forums, is completely crapped on here. Coincidentally the admin and mod here own a competitor site, FusionCash. It would theoretically be in their best interest to supress 4NoCash.com and any other points sites and promote FusionCash instead.

[quote174ccb7161="4NoCash.com"][quote174ccb7161="johnjimjones"]Both. They started out by helping the freebie community and then opened their own freesite in which they earned their credibility the same way any site does, satisfied customers. Them running this site only added to it. It's really ironic that you insult and doubt the very site you are desparately trying to advertise on.[/quote174ccb7161]

I'm not asking for special advertising or even for my forum back. All I want is to be treated fairly.

I just find it ironic and questionable that 4NoCash.com, a points site which is rated well on other forums, is completely crapped on here. Coincidentally the admin and mod here own a competitor site, FusionCash. It would theoretically be in their best interest to supress 4NoCash.com and any other points sites and promote FusionCash instead.[/quote174ccb7161]

No duh, dude. The truth is they dont like u bec u have a site like Fusioncash. Now can we stop fighting and up the Earthlink offer payout?

[quotea1235e35c4="4NoCash.com"]The old 4NoCash Network Referral sites have closed. Their closure was forced by GoGreen Network. I had no say in it....My business model has never failed. The ref site closures were forced, and the points site has not failed.[/quotea1235e35c4]

So you have no say in your "company"? Interesting concept, I'll be sure [not] to try it. True, I don't know the details of your agreement with the GoGreen Network, but I do know that had 4NoCash Referral sites not joined GoGreen, you would have closed them anyway.

[quotea1235e35c4="4NoCash.com"]By definition, points sites can't really fail when operated correctly. The profit is made on the offer completion. Even if they order, you still profit.[/quotea1235e35c4]

Thank you for the lesson in Common Sense 101.

[quotea1235e35c4="4NoCash.com"]iTunesSongs4Free.com has been open longer than FusionCash. It has never closed, but it has changed names.[/quotea1235e35c4]

Here, have a cookie. No really...take it...they're delicious.

[quotea1235e35c4="4NoCash.com"]It was first changed to http//points.4nocash.com after I acquired 4NoCash Network. When 4NoCash Network merged with GoGreen, I decided to continue using the 4NoCash name for my points site, which did not merge and has remained independent since I opened it in February.[/quotea1235e35c4]

I care, and so does everyone else.

[quotea1235e35c4="4NoCash.com"]The script used on 4NoCash.com, I wrote myself. It's called phpRewards, and I've sold it to at least a dozen other sites, including FreeTech4Me, AnyGift4Points, OrderIt4Points, and others.[/quotea1235e35c4]

Have another cookie.

[quotea1235e35c4="4NoCash.com"]Did FusionCash earn that trust, or did they automatically receive it just because the owners are mods here? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember when FusionCash opened, it was added to "Proven Legitimate" rather quickly.[/quotea1235e35c4]

As a moderator here I can GUARANTEE that FusionCash was not added to the "Proven Legitimate" category until after it had fulfilled countless orders.


[quotea1235e35c4="4NoCash.com"]For the offers that CCU and 4NoCash.com share, 4NoCash.com pays out more.[/quotea1235e35c4]

After a quick look, I see that our sites share 3 offers...PokerRoom, Golden Palace Casino, and Omni Casino. Lets break this down, and see how exactly you came to the above assumption

[ba1235e35c4]PokerRoom[/ba1235e35c4]
CasinoCashUnlimited $50
4NoCash 700 Points ($70)
Result +$20 4NoCash

[ba1235e35c4]Golden Palace Casino[/ba1235e35c4]
CasinoCashUnlimited $65.50
4NoCash 700 Points ($70)
Result +$4.50 4NoCash

[ba1235e35c4]Omni Casino[/ba1235e35c4]
CasinoCashUnlimited $65
4NoCash 280 Points ($28)
Result +$37 CasinoCashUnlimited

Throw in the $5 sign-up bonus on whichever offer you like, and account for payout within 7 days, and the people can draw their own conclusions. Not to mention the frequent promotions.

I like instantprofitz because they didn't forget Canadians. )

[quote8f4df23b89="FreeOffersNow"]stuff[/quote8f4df23b89]

also, on CCU and FusionCash you can cash out with any dollar amount. 4NoCash only pays out in gifts or $10 increments...

[quote7a8d66ddac="FreeOffersNow"][quote7a8d66ddac="4NoCash.com"]The old 4NoCash Network Referral sites have closed. Their closure was forced by GoGreen Network. I had no say in it....My business model has never failed. The ref site closures were forced, and the points site has not failed.[/quote7a8d66ddac]

So you have no say in your "company"? Interesting concept, I'll be sure [not] to try it. True, I don't know the details of your agreement with the GoGreen Network, but I do know that had 4NoCash Referral sites not joined GoGreen, you would have closed them anyway.[/quote7a8d66ddac]

Why would I have closed them? Even with having to honor the old credits, they were still protifable.

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[quote7a8d66ddac="FreeOffersNow"][quote7a8d66ddac="4NoCash.com"]Did FusionCash earn that trust, or did they automatically receive it just because the owners are mods here? Correct me if I'm wrong, but I remember when FusionCash opened, it was added to "Proven Legitimate" rather quickly.[/quote7a8d66ddac]

As a moderator here I can GUARANTEE that FusionCash was not added to the "Proven Legitimate" category until after it had fulfilled countless orders.[/quote7a8d66ddac]

I remember coming here in June and seeing it in Proven Legit. It opened June 6th.

[quote7a8d66ddac="FreeOffersNow"][quote7a8d66ddac="4NoCash.com"]For the offers that CCU and 4NoCash.com share, 4NoCash.com pays out more.[/quote7a8d66ddac]

After a quick look, I see that our sites share 3 offers...PokerRoom, Golden Palace Casino, and Omni Casino. Lets break this down, and see how exactly you came to the above assumption

[b7a8d66ddac]PokerRoom[/b7a8d66ddac]
CasinoCashUnlimited $50
4NoCash 700 Points ($70)
Result +$20 4NoCash

[b7a8d66ddac]Golden Palace Casino[/b7a8d66ddac]
CasinoCashUnlimited $65.50
4NoCash 700 Points ($70)
Result +$4.50 4NoCash

[b7a8d66ddac]Omni Casino[/b7a8d66ddac]
CasinoCashUnlimited $65
4NoCash 280 Points ($28)
Result +$37 CasinoCashUnlimited

Throw in the $5 sign-up bonus on whichever offer you like, and account for payout within 7 days, and the people can draw their own conclusions. Not to mention the frequent promotions.[/quote7a8d66ddac]

4NoCash.com has a 40 points free promotion ($4) going on right now as well. However, you are right on Omni Casino. Currently I promote it through CJ, I'm going to see if I can switch to promoting it through FocalClick so I can get a higher CPA.

[quote7a8d66ddac="Admin"][quote7a8d66ddac="FreeOffersNow"]stuff[/quote7a8d66ddac]

also, on CCU and FusionCash you can cash out with any dollar amount. 4NoCash only pays out in gifts or $10 increments...[/quote7a8d66ddac]

That's true, but on FC you have to have at least $25 to cash out, on 4NoCash.com it's only $10. Also on 4NoCash.com it's possible to complete no offers at all and just cash out on what your refs make. I have several users who do this.

guess what?

4nocash ~2300 users
fusioncash ~9400 users

thread over.