Torrent or USENET?

So i always use torrents and get about 120kb/s realtime dl on my wireless networked computer and sometimes 350kb/s on my downstairs computer through private trackers. I have sometimes though had torrents go 10kb/s

How are usenet speeds?

I can't stand Torrents, far too slow.

I started using Usenet nearly 2 months ago and I love it. My max speed is about 400KBps, there is a lot of what I want and I've only been unhappy with a few of my downloads not working properly, not being able to be repaired with QuickPAR.

9/10 for Usenet for me.

Whats usenet?

newsgroups. I hate having the files broken up into a million pieces though...

newsgroups are nice. if you have problems with files being broken up into millions of peices you aren't doing it correctly.

look into newzbin.com and make sure you are using a good news reader like newsLeecher or any other news reader that can read the .nzburl==http://=http:///url files that newzbin.com puts out.

[quote838ec4418c="ffactoryxx"]So i always use torrents and get about 120kb/s realtime dl on my wireless networked computer and sometimes 350kb/s on my downstairs computer through private trackers. I have sometimes though had torrents go 10kb/s

How are usenet speeds?[/quote838ec4418c]

Newshosting is the usenet provider I use and it is max speed of almost ev1's dl. I have heard of people getting 3mB/s+. PM me if you want a ref link ;)

ok heres what i got

torrents - off oink.me.uk its fast and good seeds

usenet- i get 1 mb per second downloaded off newshosting using newsleecher with newzbin as my index of nzb and www.newzmonster.com as my free provider im a mod on that site ) but its the best free one

Well, whats a cheap hosty that lets me download unlimited stuff a month. I usually do around 100gb month

i could trash up to 300 gigs a month lol

im horrible anyways at 1 mb a sec its so easy u go for a glass of water and bam you got movies waiting for you.

i reccomend newshosting ill send u my ref link if u want.

sure

I'm no Usenet genius, but someone asked me about how to go about using/setting up Usenet, so I'll explain from my point of view, although Allen626 made a good thread/guide about it that got me started.

I didn't know anything about Usenet at all until I stumbled upon Allen626's thread. So I found a guide and just read about it all night. I understand most of it now, but this one really helped explain it for dummies or beginners

http//slyck.com/ng.php

You'll need a Newsreader. I initially chose NewsRover (30 day free trial, walks you through setting it up, free search) and then after the 30 days were up, I switched to NewsLeecher (free, user friendly, looks good although the search function is disabled unless you pay for the software).

You'll also need a Usenet Provider. I think the 3 main ones are

UsenetServer.com (3 day free trial, $15 per month unlimited)
Newshosting.com (no free trial, $15 per month unlimited)
GigaNews.com (3 day free trial, $25 per month unlimited)

I've tried all of them, and although I prefer GigaNews it is a bit expensive.

When you've chosen your Usenet Provider, you'll need something to get and use NZB files. I use NewzBin.com. It's about $2 per month and you can search and find anything (or at least a lot) of movies, music, apps, games and of course porn. I haven't tried the one that Kidd posted above so I don't know how good that is.

When you use NewzBin.com, you click on the thing you want to download, it wil take you to a page with a lot of writing and categories. You need to click on "Get Message ID's" which will then open up your newsreader and begin downloading the files that you selected.

You will definitely want to download a program called QuickPAR. When you have finished downloading all the parts to your download, click on any of the PAR files and it will scan all the files you downloaded and check to see if any need repaired. If they do, then it will repair them automatically. Most of the time you will download RAR files and all you do is when it's downloaded, open the RAR file, and extract all the files inside there to somewhere else on your desktop.

Some you may need to burn or mount the images before using them, and some you can use straight from the RAR file.

There's probably a lot that I've missed, but that's the basic process that I use, so it works for me.

very good tutorial there tsj

newzmonster u can you its free it even has a functioning grasscutter so anything posted is put on the site asap

its free and its awesome so if ur new to the usenet scene try that before using newzbin

also grabit is a very good newb usenet newsreader imo

ask wolfe i got him started on usenet with grabit and hes gone so far )

[quotebc6c712c52="theysayjump"]I'm no Usenet genius, but someone asked me about how to go about using/setting up Usenet, so I'll explain from my point of view, although Allen626 made a good thread/guide about it that got me started.

I didn't know anything about Usenet at all until I stumbled upon Allen626's thread. So I found a guide and just read about it all night. I understand most of it now, but this one really helped explain it for dummies or beginners

http//slyck.com/ng.php

You'll need a Newsreader. I initially chose NewsRover (30 day free trial, walks you through setting it up, free search) and then after the 30 days were up, I switched to NewsLeecher (free, user friendly, looks good although the search function is disabled unless you pay for the software).

You'll also need a Usenet Provider. I think the 3 main ones are

UsenetServer.com (3 day free trial, $15 per month unlimited)
Newshosting.com (no free trial, $15 per month unlimited)
GigaNews.com (3 day free trial, $25 per month unlimited)

I've tried all of them, and although I prefer GigaNews it is a bit expensive.

When you've chosen your Usenet Provider, you'll need something to get and use NZB files. I use NewzBin.com. It's about $2 per month and you can search and find anything (or at least a lot) of movies, music, apps, games and of course porn. I haven't tried the one that Kidd posted above so I don't know how good that is.

When you use NewzBin.com, you click on the thing you want to download, it wil take you to a page with a lot of writing and categories. You need to click on "Get Message ID's" which will then open up your newsreader and begin downloading the files that you selected.

You will definitely want to download a program called QuickPAR. When you have finished downloading all the parts to your download, click on any of the PAR files and it will scan all the files you downloaded and check to see if any need repaired. If they do, then it will repair them automatically. Most of the time you will download RAR files and all you do is when it's downloaded, open the RAR file, and extract all the files inside there to somewhere else on your desktop.

Some you may need to burn or mount the images before using them, and some you can use straight from the RAR file.

There's probably a lot that I've missed, but that's the basic process that I use, so it works for me.[/quotebc6c712c52]

so u gotta pay for Usenet not matter what site u get the files from? thats sucks. torrents are free!

not exactly

some isps have usenet service tell me your isp and ill tell u if u have usenet access worth your time

and torrents are free and public but there trash and infested my mpaa/riaa fucks

good trackers are the only torrents worth using

i got comcast.

Yeah you have to pay but most ISP's have their own, but its shit, also the speeds are as fast as your ISP can handle, no spyware and it's probably about 10 times more secure/safe.

comcast has decent newsgroups decent at its best

heres a quick guide to comcast usenet if you need your isp's say ur isp

Comcast.net

Last Update April 5th, 2005

Usenet access Yes...through Giganews

Homepage http//online.comcast.net/giganews/

Server news.comcast.giganews.com

Login Received upon request at https//secure.giganews.com/cc/signup.cgi

Password Received upon request at https//secure.giganews.com/cc/signup.cgi

Download Quota 1 GB per month per main e-mail account

Download Speed Modem limit

Retention

Binaries Giganews limit...around 30 days? (Comcast says 14, but I have downloaded older msgs)

ALSO YOTTANEWS OFFERS 1GB PER MONTH FREE

you can do a $3 trial on usenetserver.com

i go through usenetserver but i am cancelling it at the end of my period because i don't need it anymore.

yea i did the 3 day trial at usenetserver its gone down since i last had them i hear newshosting is better

giganews is alot better but for the cost fuck that

Newsgroups give me 800KB/s+ downloads....

and u get nice downloads not having to wait for seeds

[quote22f2c9f3a1="Kidd"]and u get nice downloads not having to wait for seeds[/quote22f2c9f3a1]

And you don't have to worry about your ratio...

[quote4ded2851f5="Wolfeman"][quote4ded2851f5="Kidd"]and u get nice downloads not having to wait for seeds[/quote4ded2851f5]

And you don't have to worry about your ratio...[/quote4ded2851f5]

or the 5-0 or the rest of the mpaa/riaa scumbags

i use torrent...

whats usenet

http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Usenet

So there's no real way to do it for free?

I don't download much at all, but hell 1 movie would take 5 months at a 1GB/mo cap. Not very practical.

Until I find a free option, I guess I'm sticking with torrents.

do some software to download stuff from the newsgroups. i got mine setup for comcast, and theres a long list of different groups. which ones are the best to use?

alt.binaries.dvdr

Your ISP should have newsgroups...

kex post ur isp and ill tell u if ur isp has newsgroups

cd use nzbs screw looking through posts and dling headers

I have comcast. They have hosting?

i posted the info above

EDIT-

heres a quick guide to comcast usenet if you need your isp's say ur isp

Comcast.net

Last Update April 5th, 2005

Usenet access Yes...through Giganews

Homepage http//online.comcast.net/giganews/

Server news.comcast.giganews.com

Login Received upon request at https//secure.giganews.com/cc/signup.cgi

Password Received upon request at https//secure.giganews.com/cc/signup.cgi

Download Quota 1 GB per month per main e-mail account

Download Speed Modem limit

Retention

Binaries Giganews limit...around 30 days? (Comcast says 14, but I have downloaded older msgs)

ALSO YOTTANEWS OFFERS 1GB PER MONTH FREE

its shitty comcast but its free i guess

my isp is earthlink do i get usnet thingimajigi?

[quote386f30b9fd="Th3Great1"]my isp is earthlink do i get usnet thingimajigi?[/quote386f30b9fd]

Earthlink

Last Update April 5th, 2005

Usenet access Yes

Homepage http//support.earthlink.net/mu/1/psc/img/...e/8532.psc.html

Server news.east.earthlink.net, news.west.earthlink.net

Login Earthlink e-mail account (including @earthlink.net)

Password Earthlink e-mail account password

Download Quota 5 GB per rolling 30 days per e-mail account (8 e-mail accounts total, including main one)

Download Speed Modem limit if under quota. 64kbps per connection if over quota.

Retention

Binaries Around 2 days


in other words it isnt bad but commercial hosting is 1000x better imo

[quote6f161627a2="Wolfeman"]Your ISP should have newsgroups...[/quote6f161627a2]

I have SBC DSL and they have there own usenet, but it sux. It does not have any binary newsgroups. Binary newsgroups are the places that host files that are big, like movies. Usenet has been around forever and did not at first become a big file trading hub like it is today, it was and still is used as a msg board on many groups.

You have to DL a usenet client, like TSJ said newsleecher is the best at least IMO. You can then subscribe to gruops and download the headers which take FOREVER (2 hours + on my 300kB/s connection) and sort through the info manually to find what you want. The problem with this is there is a lot of newsgroups you have to subscribe to to use all that usenet has to offer. So a revolutionary file type came out called NZB which allowed you only to DL files you wanted and not the whole headers for every newsgroup. www.newzbin.com charges a 2$ a month fee which allows them enough bandwidth to supply you with these files. You can search through the stuff on there and just dl the NZB for the post you want and DL it. No hassle.

So basically if you want to use usenet you are going to have to pay around 16-17$ a month. If you do not DL that much to warrant that just stick with torrents as they are the second best option.

[quotedb9359a31d="Kidd"][quotedb9359a31d="Th3Great1"]my isp is earthlink do i get usnet thingimajigi?[/quotedb9359a31d]

Earthlink

Last Update April 5th, 2005

Usenet access Yes

Homepage http//support.earthlink.net/mu/1/psc/img/...e/8532.psc.html

Server news.east.earthlink.net, news.west.earthlink.net

Login Earthlink e-mail account (including @earthlink.net)

Password Earthlink e-mail account password

Download Quota 5 GB per rolling 30 days per e-mail account (8 e-mail accounts total, including main one)

Download Speed Modem limit if under quota. 64kbps per connection if over quota.

Retention

Binaries Around 2 days


in other words it isnt bad but commercial hosting is 1000x better imo[/quotedb9359a31d]

hey i get a page not found at the home page...

[quote27cf7daa17="Th3Great1"][quote27cf7daa17="Kidd"][quote27cf7daa17="Th3Great1"]my isp is earthlink do i get usnet thingimajigi?[/quote27cf7daa17]

Earthlink

Last Update April 5th, 2005

Usenet access Yes

Homepage http//support.earthlink.net/mu/1/psc/img/...e/8532.psc.html

Server news.east.earthlink.net, news.west.earthlink.net

Login Earthlink e-mail account (including @earthlink.net)

Password Earthlink e-mail account password

Download Quota 5 GB per rolling 30 days per e-mail account (8 e-mail accounts total, including main one)

Download Speed Modem limit if under quota. 64kbps per connection if over quota.

Retention

Binaries Around 2 days


in other words it isnt bad but commercial hosting is 1000x better imo[/quote27cf7daa17]

hey i get a page not found at the home page...[/quote27cf7daa17]

i guess they changed the link just connect to the following server

what server?

[quote4447daf078="Th3Great1"]what server?[/quote4447daf078]

Server news.east.earthlink.net, news.west.earthlink.net

pick if ur west or east

Page cannot be found lmao ghetoo earthlink

[quoteee9c8d5fc0="Th3Great1"]Page cannot be found lmao ghetoo earthlink[/quoteee9c8d5fc0]

omg u gotta connect to that under ur newsreader

then use nzb's to download wat u want

O LMAO

enlightening thread. i always knew about newsgroups , but never the costs involved.



Perhaps this will be the new direction of TA.com .

My ISP is Cox, do they have a usenet?

The only thing i dont like about newsgroups is updating the headers, when the groups have TONS of headers it takes a while to update.
I use them every now and then but i mostly use torrents. private trackers go pretty fast, you can request anything and most of the time you'll get it.

[quoteabe45826e2="romanodog"]The only thing i dont like about newsgroups is updating the headers, when the groups have TONS of headers it takes a while to update.
I use them every now and then but i mostly use torrents. private trackers go pretty fast, you can request anything and most of the time you'll get it.[/quoteabe45826e2]

thats why i mentions nzbs no more headers

I just subscribe to all the newsgroups and then when I'm not using the computer/newsleecher etc I just update the headers and such like.

tsj = my god

+kma

j/k bout u being my god

http//newzleech.com is a good for finding usenet posts. like newzbin but free

newzbin.com and newshosting.com
all you need

What about Verizon? Do they have this usenet thing?

I'm too cheapt to afford Usenet, so I stick to torrents but lately they've been rediculously slow...

Does optimum online have the usenet thing?

[quotee8a88a8719="jreeder"]What about Verizon? Do they have this usenet thing?[/quotee8a88a8719]

personally, I love usenet for me, it boiled down to this

Pros
- Fast
-Somehow, it gets around my DSL traffic counter, so the Bandwidth is free

Cons
-Smaller variety of files sometimes... especially with newshosting, I find that you can only download files 30 days old, after that, the files are inacessable. With torrents, you can always hope for 1 or 2 seeders on even rare files.
-Price, of course

Overall, I still find myself using Torrents occasionally for hard-to-find- things, but the other 90% is usenet.

I can get a little bit more than a gigabyte an hour... and i get full speed right away, so I dont have to wait for the download to slooowly speed up.

[quotee29c27f85e="mikedb"]personally, I love usenet for me, it boiled down to this

Pros
- Fast
-Somehow, it gets around my DSL traffic counter, so the Bandwidth is free

Cons
-Smaller variety of files sometimes... especially with newshosting, I find that you can only download files 30 days old, after that, the files are inacessable. With torrents, you can always hope for 1 or 2 seeders on even rare files.
-Price, of course

Overall, I still find myself using Torrents occasionally for hard-to-find- things, but the other 90% is usenet.

I can get a little bit more than a gigabyte an hour... and i get full speed right away, so I dont have to wait for the download to slooowly speed up.[/quotee29c27f85e]

You pretty much summed it up. Another con is usenet takes a a little longer to get TV shows. They are up on EZTV and my super awesome private group well before Usenet. Usenet I get 1MB/s downloads so for movies and junk, its unbeatable...

I'm interested in possibly signing up for this stuff, I'll sign up under someone as a referral (at their UseNet site) if they help me out and walk me through everything.

Personally, I think both of them suck..

Torrents too damn slow, a lot of the time the torrents never work and its a huge pain in the ass subscribing to these 'private trackers'

USENET the speed is great, however theres not enough content and some are missing files

The Solution? Use the DC network and find yourself a good hub.

PIRATES!!!!!!!!! ARRRRRRG

Bringing up and old thread.

Is usenet down? Also are there any torrent sites where they have user reviews of the files. I dont want to download files with viruses.

[quote4855a11bc8="ulenie"]Bringing up and old thread.

Is usenet down? Also are there any torrent sites where they have user reviews of the files. I dont want to download files with viruses.[/quote4855a11bc8]

It depends on who your Usenet server is. I use NewsHosting.com and it's up and running fine for me.

Usenetserver.com is running A-OK...

Ewwww.......UsenetServer.com. ?

Does Cox Cable have usenet?

Yep! The speeds blow but it works...
news.east.cox.net
news.central.cox.net
news.west.cox.net

Depends on where you live...

newsgroups get me about 4 - 5 mbps download! )

I get 8Mbps...

What? you have to pay for this stuff? I never paid anything so far when I downloaded torrents. I just download the torrent directly from usenet or isohunt and had no problems so far. I get around 50 -100 MBps. Why are you guys paying for it?

damn, i wish i could get a download at 100MBps (are you sure you don't mean KB?) It's faster than torrents, and there's no worry about if enough people are seeding. that's why people pay for it!

[quote9e0eed7e7b="iamzim"]damn, i wish i could get a download at 100MBps (are you sure you don't mean KB?) It's faster than torrents, and there's no worry about if enough people are seeding. that's why people pay for it![/quote9e0eed7e7b]

Oh shit, ya it is KB, sorry. So if I pay for those servers, I get better download speed?

ultimately it depends on your connection speed. I get between 4-5mbps, which goes anywhere between 400KB/s and 600KB/s and i've got as high as 1MB/s as wolfman stated. So....yeah, it does tend to be a bit faster, again, depending on the speed of your connection! my connection is stated at 6mbps (most days it's slower 4mbps rarely it's very fast 8mbps)

for those that don't know...MB is megabytes Mb is megabits
8Mb = 1MB

5Mb = 5,000,000bits = 5,000kilobits li (1byte/8bits) = 625KiloBytes

iamzim thanks for explaing that because people never get it with the Mb, MB, KB/s thing. I get right around 900KB/s to 1MB/s on usenet server. On my free Cox newsgroup I get like 200KB/s and they don't have everything and they are a lot slower to get it. $15/month and have downloaded 160GB in the past 3-4 months (just off usenet). Not a bad price...