Eminem - Curtain Call

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halfbreed

20-12-2005 12:21:27

Just wondering what everyone thinks about it. Eminem always figures out a way to make good music, I swear I don't know how he does it.

crazyates

20-12-2005 12:50:13

i like his stuff, but is this new cd just a bunch of old songs..like his hits and stuff?...or are there any new songs? i like the new one that's like always on the radio.."when i'm gone"...i hope that one's on there too.

Th3Great1

20-12-2005 12:53:41

Eminem is a bad rapper...

dudelovesFinch1035

20-12-2005 13:02:27

[quotea3f30565e4="Th3Great1"]Eminem is a bad rapper...[/quotea3f30565e4]i gotta agree with you on that...

tracemhunter

20-12-2005 13:02:30

there are 3 new songs. the one that has the music video, one with nate dogg, and the live version of stan he did with elton john.

crazyates

20-12-2005 13:03:46

[quote02290d332e="Th3Great1"]Eminem is a bad rapper...[/quote02290d332e]

What are u talking about?!

he just came out with his fifth album, is one of the most popular rapper's out there, and yes, he actually can rap (unlike a lot of other white "rappers" out there)

sure, there are better artist out there, but he's actually a pretty good one. I'm interested in buying his cd, but i'm too cheap so i'll prob just end up downloading it anyways. lol

tylerc

20-12-2005 13:04:40

Rap, in general, sucks.

crazyates

20-12-2005 13:13:12

[quote114118a012="tylerc"]Rap, in general, sucks.[/quote114118a012]

it all depends on what u like. I happen to like anything from relient K to kanye west to 50 cent. (country's pretty much the only thing i don't like, but we won't get into that here) if u don't even like rap, how can u tell if he's good or not? As far as rap goes, eminem's prob one of the better one's out there.

Th3Great1

20-12-2005 13:14:39

There are wayyy better rappers right now than eminem right now that dont get the recongintion they deserve

dudelovesFinch1035

20-12-2005 13:26:03

Like Common...

mrwzk

20-12-2005 13:35:19

eminem used to be one of the best, his old stuff was cool his new stuff isnt very good

chamillionare is a good rapper one of my favorite

tylerc

20-12-2005 13:36:38

I used to listen to rap all the time, you guys want a good artist? Check out Immortal Technique's "Dance With the Devil".

That shit is off tha chizzain.

/done acting like that

exclusiv

20-12-2005 13:49:57

[quotecf046e624d="tylerc"]I used to listen to rap all the time, you guys want a good artist? Check out Immortal Technique's "Dance With the Devil".

That shit is off tha chizzain.

/done acting like that[/quotecf046e624d]

that track is ridiculous and eery at the same time
i posted a message to immortal technique a few years back on HHI and he said it was based upon some people he did know (just wanted to ask about it since he says "listen cuz the story that I'm telling is true")

great track

anyway i don't listen to hardly any rap or hip hop anymore unless it is by Common. only artist I care for anymore.

mnx12

20-12-2005 13:59:03

I think he is awesome, and I really want this cd. I have his last two, but I still want this one.

Gigante

20-12-2005 15:01:49

Renegade, Criminal and When I'm Gone are the ones on Curtain Call I like.

mrwzk

20-12-2005 15:10:18

most of the those are old Renegade is a good song with Jay-Z

drummer_kew_03

20-12-2005 15:21:06

Has anyone else noticed that 50 cent has no talent?

Th3Great1

20-12-2005 15:23:08

yuppppp 50 has less talent than ashlee simpson http/" alt=""/img117.exs.cx/img="117/5601/n1qshok.gif[" alt=""/img955e7c26a0]

tylerc

20-12-2005 15:36:42

Yeah, "Dance With the Devil" is a pretty fucked up song, but still good.

IM me if you want the song-tylerc8833, I'll send it to anyone who wants it.

crazyates

20-12-2005 19:08:30

[quote11797b4def="tylerc"]Yeah, "Dance With the Devil" is a pretty fucked up song, but still good.

IM me if you want the song-tylerc8833, I'll send it to anyone who wants it.[/quote11797b4def]

If i want any song, i'd rather download is off the net. u can download almost anything and everything, provied u have the right software... 8)

everyone always talks about lose yourself (which is sometimes overrated, but it's still a good song), mockingbird, and sing for the moment. i think he does a lot of good songs, but i think the combo of "kim" and "love u more" go great together, showing different sides of the same story with totally different emotions in the traditional emimem style.

Airkat

20-12-2005 19:11:00

Wow, after reading this I downloaded the "dance with the devil" song. So fucked up. Jeesh.

tracemhunter

20-12-2005 19:15:29

kim is one of my favorite songs by eminem. right behind still dont give a fuck.

crazyates

20-12-2005 19:19:29

i know, i still remember the first time i heard it. i just sat there the whole time staring. that's what eminem portrais in his music, it's real

mnx12

20-12-2005 19:34:00

[quote64f3fb402f="drummer_kew_03"]Has anyone else noticed that 50 cent has no talent?[/quote64f3fb402f]I love you.

tylerc

20-12-2005 21:32:54

[quote74ce1bb23d="Airkat"]Wow, after reading this I downloaded the "dance with the devil" song. So fucked up. Jeesh.[/quote74ce1bb23d]

Yeah, any song about a guy who ends up raping his own mom is definitely jacked up.

/wonders if people will download it now that they know that is in the song

Brok3n_Sword

20-12-2005 22:09:12

I downloaded "dance with the devil" as well. That is some fucked up shit. And what a good rapper.

/runs to get more

drummer_kew_03

20-12-2005 22:28:20

[quote766afbda44="mnx12"][quote766afbda44="drummer_kew_03"]Has anyone else noticed that 50 cent has no talent?[/quote766afbda44]I love you.[/quote766afbda44] oops oops oops

tylerc

20-12-2005 22:37:06

[quote158893a9f3="Brok3n_Sword"]I downloaded "dance with the devil" as well. That is some fucked up shit. And what a good rapper.

/runs to get more[/quote158893a9f3]

Yes, an example of good rap.

Download "Peruvian Cocaine"

Brok3n_Sword

20-12-2005 22:38:35

I've never heard such intelligence in lyrics. I'm not a huge fan of rap/hip-hop, all I used to listen to was eminem, a tribe called quest, and a few others. This is amazing though.

drummer_kew_03

20-12-2005 22:40:35

Okay, I'll bite. About to download...I mean "running off to buy cd" wink

tylerc

20-12-2005 22:42:56

Yeah, the lyrics are very smart and the guy has a good vocabulary, which goes against the stereotype that most rappers are ex-gangbangers with the intelligence to create such moving lyrics as, "If you don't give a damn, we don't give a fuck!" and "My hump, my hump my hump my hump, my hump, my lovely lady lump."

tylerc

20-12-2005 22:48:53

Here are the lyrics if you guys can't/won't download the song and are curious

[quoteee5e429631][Verse 1]
I once knew a nigga whose real name was William
his primary concern, was making a million
being the illest hustler, that the world ever seen
he used to fuck moviestars and sniff coke in his dreams
a corrupted young mind, at the age of thirteen
nigga never had a father and his mom was a feen
she put the pipe down, but forever yeah she was sober
her sons heart simultaneously grew colder
he started hanging out selling bags in the projects
checking the young chicks, looking for hit and run prospects
he was fascinated by material objects
but he understood money never bought respect
he build a reputation cause he could hustle and steal
but got locked once it didn't hesitate to squeal
so criminals he chilled with didn't think he was real
you see me and niggaz like this have never been equal
I dont project my insurecurity's at other people
he feeded for props like addicts with pipes and needles
so he felt he had to prove to everyone he was evil
a fever minded young man with infinite potetial
the product of a ghetto breed capatalistic mental
coincidentally dropped out of school to sell weed
dancing with the devil, smoked until his eyes would bleed
but he was sick of selling trees and gave in to his greed

[Hook]
Everyone trying to be trife never face the consequences
you propably only did a month for minor offences
ask a nigga doing life if he had another chance
but then again there's always the wicked at new and advanced
dance forever with the devil on a code cell block
but thats what happens when you rape, murder and sell rock
devils used to be gods, angels that fell from the top
there's no diversity because we're burning in the melting pot

[Verse 2]
So Billy started robbing niggaz, anything he could do
he'd get his respect back, in the eyes of his crew
starting fights over little shit, up on the block
stepped up to selling mothers and brothers the crack rock
working overtime for making money for the crack spot
hit the jackpot and wanted to move up to cocaine
for filling the scarface fantasy stuck in his brain
tired of the block niggaz treating him the same
he wanted to be major like the cut throats and the thugs
but when he tried to step to 'em, niggaz showed him no love
they told him any motherfucking coward can sell drugs
any bitch nigga with a gun, can bust slugs
any nigga with a red shirt can front like a blood
even Puffy smoked the motherfucker up in a club
but only a real thug can stab someone till they die
standing in front of them, starring straight into their eyes
Billy realized that these men were well guarded
and they wanted to test him, before business started
suggested raping a bitch to prove he was cold hearted
so now he had a choice between going back to his life
or making money with made men, up in the cife
his dreams about cars and ice, made him agree
a hardcore nigga is all he ever wanted to be
and so he met them friday night at a quarter to three

[Hook]

[Verse 3]
They drove around the projects slow while it was raining
smoking blunts, drinking and joking for entertainment
untill they saw a woman on the street walking alone
three in the morning, coming back from work, on her way home
and so they quietly got out the car and followed her
walking through the projects, the darkness swallowed her
they wrapped her shirt around her head and knocked her onto the floor
this is it kid now you got your chance to be raw
so Billy oaked her up and grapped the chick by the hair
and dragged her into a lobby that had nobody there
she struggled hard but they forced her to go up the stairs
they got to the roof and then held her down on the ground
screaming shut the fuck up and stop moving around
the shirt covered her face, but she screamed the clouts
so Billy stomped on the bitch, until he broken her jaw
the dirty bastards knew exactly what they were doing
they kicked her until they cracked her ribs and she stopped moving
blood leaking through the cloth, she cried silently
and then they all proceeded to rape her violently
Billy was meant to go first, but each of them took a turn
ripping her up, and choking her until her throat burned
a broken jaw mumbled for god but they weren't concerned
when they were done and she was lying bloody, broken and broos
one of them niggaz pulled out a brand new twenty-two
they told him that she was a witness of what she'd gone through
and if he killed her he was guaranteed a spot in the crew
he thought about it for a minute, she was practicly dead
and so he leaned over and put the gun right to her head

(Sample from "Survival of the Fittest" by Mobb Deep)
I'm falling and I can't turn back
I'm falling and I can't turn back

[Verse 4]
Right before he pulled the trigger, and ended her life
he thought about the cold pain with the platinum and ice
and he felt strong standing along with his new brothers
cocked the gat to her head, and pulled back the shirt cover
but what he saw made him start the cringine studder
cuz he was starring into the eyes of his own mother
she looked back at him and cried, cause he had forsaken her
she cried more painfully, than when they were raping her
his whole world stopped, he couldn't even contiplate
his corruption had succesfully changed his fate
and he remembered how his mom used to come home late
working hard for nothing, cause now what was he worth
he turned away from the woman that had once given him birth
and crying out to the sky cause he was lonely and scared
but only the devil responded, cause god wasn't there
and right then he knew what it was to be empty and cold
and so he jumped off the roof and died with no soul
they say death take you to a better place but I doubt it
after that they killed his mother, and never spoke about it
and listen cause the story that I'm telling is true
cuz I was there with Billy Jacobs and I raped his mom to
and now the devil follows me everywhere that I go
infact I'm sure he's standing among one of you at my shows
and every street cypher listening to little thugs flowe
he could be standing right next to you, and you wouldn't know
the devil grows inside the hearts of the selvish and wicked
white, brown, yellow and black colored is not restricted
you have a self destructive destiny when your inflicted
and you'll be one of gods children and fell from the top
there's no diversity because we're burning in the melting pot
so when the devil wants to dance with you, you better say never
because the dance with the devil might last you forever
[/quoteee5e429631]

tracemhunter

20-12-2005 22:50:20

i drive these fuckas crazy. i do it on the daily. they treat me really nice..


/me dances

tylerc

20-12-2005 22:50:59

The only time I like "crap-rap" is when I'm drunk.

I remember dancing around to "Rainbow Colors In My Cup" by Three 6 Mafia once.

shamash

20-12-2005 22:53:49

Only eminem i've really really enjoyed was "Just the two of us"

drummer_kew_03

20-12-2005 22:56:59

Damn, that was a good song. Just a basic beat, piano, a some other stuff. The lyrics were really good though. I really like how he made them flow. I really hate how in a lot of rap they force the words to fit or have pauses in random places. I like good rap like this, but I hate what I call pop rap. The new pop music is rap, just look at MTV.

tracemhunter

20-12-2005 23:09:37

good song. rarely will a song stick in my head but that one will!

Th3Great1

21-12-2005 06:02:28

You never know, onbnoxious, bin laden, no strings attatched are some other good songs by immortal technique


No doubt he is a master lyricsist but i dunno he's boring he has weak flow but his lyrics make up for it but i still cant listen to his song for a whole hour, gets boring quick...

tylerc

21-12-2005 08:36:46

What do you mean weak flow?

I thought it flowed pretty well.

Th3Great1

21-12-2005 08:44:49

weak flow as in he doesnt make words connect you know what i mean? Sounds like he is just talking with rhythm instead of rapping

Airkat

21-12-2005 09:06:06

I agree. Very weak flow. He's definitely good, nothing I would bump to in my car tho, there's a time for everything, and you don't always want to be told a story, sometimes you want something to nod your head to or dance.