Pay Zero Crediting
Did my offers on November 25th and submitted for manual credit on the 29th. Apparently Urban Nutrition still hasn't responded to their request, but they almost always credit on other sites within 1-2 days. Getting a bit annoyed.
EatChex89
14-12-2005 16:20:01
[quote3bc5d29ec4="Arti"]Did my offers on November 25th and submitted for manual credit on the 29th. Apparently Urban Nutrition still hasn't responded to their request, but they almost always credit on other sites within 1-2 days. Getting a bit annoyed.[/quote3bc5d29ec4]
I'll see what can be done for you.
kevxross
14-12-2005 16:20:46
[quote383c636100="EatChex89"][quote383c636100="Arti"]Did my offers on November 25th and submitted for manual credit on the 29th. Apparently Urban Nutrition still hasn't responded to their request, but they almost always credit on other sites within 1-2 days. Getting a bit annoyed.[/quote383c636100]
I'll see what can be done for you.[/quote383c636100]
He could PM/IM mr_black just as easily as you...
EatChex89
14-12-2005 16:22:18
[quote763ba9ec70="kevxross"][quote763ba9ec70="EatChex89"][quote763ba9ec70="Arti"]Did my offers on November 25th and submitted for manual credit on the 29th. Apparently Urban Nutrition still hasn't responded to their request, but they almost always credit on other sites within 1-2 days. Getting a bit annoyed.[/quote763ba9ec70]
I'll see what can be done for you.[/quote763ba9ec70]
He could PM/IM mr_black just as easily as you...[/quote763ba9ec70]
Yea, but he's sick.
slease
14-12-2005 21:30:31
me (112729 PM) hey, any word on the payzero payouts?
mr black (112808 PM) not yet
me (112821 PM) timeframe?
mr black (112822 PM) some gifts will go out soon
mr black (112828 PM) I got the flu
me (112837 PM) sucks
mr black (112844 PM) so Im gonna do what I can from here
me (112916 PM) but for those of us that finished in november, we should be seeing payouts soon?
mr black (112921 PM) ya
Archon810
14-12-2005 22:50:32
i got 2-3 people waiting for credit. so far it was a painless credit for me and pretty tough time for others...
justinag06
14-12-2005 23:08:18
yeah they suck hard
Urban Nutrition has credited perfectly for me on EVERY site. It's been about two and a half weeks since I submitted for manual credit and he claims that he still hasn't heard back. Seeing as how there is a business agreement between the two companies, I'm sure they are obligated to respond. Not only that, but he's increased the point cost of the item I probably would have already received if the site didn't suck. Pay-Zero needs to get its act together.
slease
18-12-2005 17:31:31
[quotee0de1f4a65="Arti"]Urban Nutrition has credited perfectly for me on EVERY site.[/quotee0de1f4a65]
Actually, no it hasn't, it hasn't credited perfectly for you on the pay-zero site has it?
Urban Nutrition is unreliable. just do a fucking search.
Peinecone
18-12-2005 17:32:44
[quote17e8045bef="justinag06"]I and all my refs who did a bingo offer for mr black were also credited withen hours last month. So I can't say anything but postive things so far[/quote17e8045bef]
Well, i'm sure you got the email he sent out, saying all Bingo Cafe and Jet Bingo refs were being denied. That means all 3 of my refs are losing credit. So basically i got fucked out of 3 refs.
justinag06
18-12-2005 17:33:13
what!
justinag06
18-12-2005 17:34:42
fuck I guess I just blew $60 on nothing then
Can we all stand up and give Mr. Black a round of appluase
Kinda lowdown considering he lured us to do the site that day with a $20 visa giftcard
Peinecone
18-12-2005 17:36:15
[quote3dc04d71b8]Hello Pay-Zero User,
This is to notify all users that have completed either Jet Bingo or Bingo Cafe, that unfortunately we must suspend credit for these offers. The reason for this is the advertiser has decided that they don\'t want to pay, claiming that users referred were just depositing and cashing out with out playing. I believe that this is untrue as I have confidence that you completed the offer as instructed and played the posted requirement. We are currently fighting to get paid for these offers. In the mean time all credits will be temporarily suspended.
Now I am sure you are curious to know what we are going to do about your credits. Since we beleive that this isn\'t the fault of the users we will not hold you responsible. This being the case, all users that completed the offers mentioned above will be reimbursed for their deposits ($20) for every completion. Reimbursment will be sent in the form of either a Check or Visa Gift Card. We hope that you use the money to complete new offers. We have lists of all users that completed the offers, so please do not contact support regarding this matter.
In reference to Orders placed, all orders of users that completed these offers will not be fufilled at this time. If you have referrals that have completed this offer your order will ot be fufilled. If you have enough points without that referral or referrals feel free to place your order and it will stil go out on time.We appologize on behalf of this advertiser and hope that you will continue to use Pay-Zero.
Regards,
Pay-Zero Admin
email==admin@pay-zero.comadmin@pay-zero.com=admin@pay-zero.comadmin@pay-zero.com/email
AIM PayZero Support[/quote3dc04d71b8]
He had said that he was going to start sending orders on the 15th, and the rest the next day. When i IMd him earlier today, he said i would likely ship Mon. on my custom order. Then i recieve the email above, and all 3 refs have lost credit.
justinag06
18-12-2005 17:38:48
ok if everyone gets the $20 back maybe we can all just reimburse each other for the money paid on the trades and cut our losses
If bill would be kind enough to send my money back, id be more than happy to send you yours peincone
slease
18-12-2005 17:39:51
[quote4fd552e9bd="Peinecone"][quote4fd552e9bd]Hello Pay-Zero User,
This is to notify all users that have completed either Jet Bingo or Bingo Cafe, that unfortunately we must suspend credit for these offers. The reason for this is the advertiser has decided that they don\'t want to pay, claiming that users referred were just depositing and cashing out with out playing. I believe that this is untrue as I have confidence that you completed the offer as instructed and played the posted requirement. We are currently fighting to get paid for these offers. In the mean time all credits will be temporarily suspended.
Now I am sure you are curious to know what we are going to do about your credits. Since we beleive that this isn\'t the fault of the users we will not hold you responsible. This being the case, all users that completed the offers mentioned above will be reimbursed for their deposits ($20) for every completion. Reimbursment will be sent in the form of either a Check or Visa Gift Card. We hope that you use the money to complete new offers. We have lists of all users that completed the offers, so please do not contact support regarding this matter.
In reference to Orders placed, all orders of users that completed these offers will not be fufilled at this time. If you have referrals that have completed this offer your order will ot be fufilled. If you have enough points without that referral or referrals feel free to place your order and it will stil go out on time.We appologize on behalf of this advertiser and hope that you will continue to use Pay-Zero.
Regards,
Pay-Zero Admin
email==admin@pay-zero.comadmin@pay-zero.com=admin@pay-zero.comadmin@pay-zero.com/email
AIM PayZero Support[/quote4fd552e9bd]
He had said that he was going to start sending orders on the 15th, and the rest the next day. When i IMd him earlier today, he said i would likely ship Mon. on my custom order. Then i recieve the email above, and all 3 refs have lost credit.[/quote4fd552e9bd]
Once I get that check or whatever from him I'll do another offer for you. You should hold your other refs to that.
Peinecone
18-12-2005 17:41:35
[quote9765a19e34="justinag06"]ok if everyone gets the $20 back maybe we can all just reimburse each other for the money paid on the trades and cut our losses
If bill would be kind enough to send my money back, id be more than happy to send you yours peincone[/quote9765a19e34]
Works for me. Slease is one of my other refs. I fiquire i have no grounds to demand any money back, but wouldn't mind to work something back.
justinag06
18-12-2005 17:42:45
I for one won't be doing anymore offers for his site.
I just want out of this site alltogether.
Why should I do another offer, if I have no trust I will be actually credited for it
Peinecone
18-12-2005 17:42:48
[quote8ecf4921fa="slease"]Once I get that check or whatever from him I'll do another offer for you. You should hold your other refs to that.[/quote8ecf4921fa]
I <3 you
[quoteb8ee2eed6e="slease"][quoteb8ee2eed6e="Arti"]Urban Nutrition has credited perfectly for me on EVERY site.[/quoteb8ee2eed6e]
Actually, no it hasn't, it hasn't credited perfectly for you on the pay-zero site has it?
Urban Nutrition is unreliable. just do a fucking search.[/quoteb8ee2eed6e]
Of course it hasn't credited perfectly for this site, thank for your understanding the point of my post. If something credits perfectly on every site, but not for Pay-Zero, I don't think it's Urban Nutrition's' fault.
They've been very reliable to me. And I don't know why you're being hostile. If you have an issue, grab a tissue.
justinag06
18-12-2005 17:47:43
I have to agree with slease
just write this in your head everybody[b8e70727bfa]
STAY AWAY FROM URBAN NUTRITION[/size8e70727bfa][/b8e70727bfa]
if you wanna do an offer and possibly never get credit for it, do it.
Urban nutrition holds the award for most offers I have done that have never credited....ever
that is 3 and up untill today they were also the only offers that I should have, and did not recieve credit for.
oh and pay-zero would have given you credit, then taken it away. Thats their style
wink
Crynos
18-12-2005 18:54:49
Yeah, thats some mad bullshit (revoking credit)
RocLaFamilia
18-12-2005 18:59:14
i didnt get credit from 2 of my offers i did there too...he said he got manual credit from the company but didnt kno who they went to....i dont think he ever found out either...any ways its been a month and no green (
slease
18-12-2005 23:49:36
[quote7a7505ebd6="Arti"][quote7a7505ebd6="slease"][quote7a7505ebd6="Arti"]Urban Nutrition has credited perfectly for me on EVERY site.[/quote7a7505ebd6]
Actually, no it hasn't, it hasn't credited perfectly for you on the pay-zero site has it?
Urban Nutrition is unreliable. just do a fucking search.[/quote7a7505ebd6]
Of course it hasn't credited perfectly for this site, thank for your understanding the point of my post. If something credits perfectly on every site, but not for Pay-Zero, I don't think it's Urban Nutrition's' fault.
They've been very reliable to me. And I don't know why you're being hostile. If you have an issue, grab a tissue.[/quote7a7505ebd6]
When I ran my incentive site, urban nutrition was consistently unreliable at crediting, if you've had luck with doing UN on other sites than great, just don't expect it to work on every site because UN sucks!
kevxross
19-12-2005 08:45:33
Yeah, I don't say it often, but as far as I'm concerned fuck Pay-Zero and fuck the GoGreen network.
I did Bingo Cafe on Games.Pay-Zero. I actually played with and lost the $20 I deposited. I never even got credit, so I'm not even getting the $20 check.
So then I decided to do the GuaranteedGambling (GoGreen Network) offer on there. I did Oasis Casino (worst fucking internet casino ever. absolute piece of shit web site). Well GuaranteedGambling never gave me credit for this casino (I actually think it was Oasis' fault because their programming was so incredibly shitty), but I found out even if I DID get credit, my $50 I would earn would have been given to Pay-Zero ON TOP of his affiliate pay! That's absolute bullshit if you ask me, especially considering there was absolutely no note about this from either party. GuaranteedGambling is just gonna take their CUSTOMERS' payouts and hand them to their AFFILIATES? That's not how this type of thing works. Period.
My suggestion is to stay away from Pay-Zero and GuaranteedGambling.
Archon810
19-12-2005 09:27:06
[quote8bac743873="kevxross"]Yeah, I don't say it often, but as far as I'm concerned fuck Pay-Zero and fuck the GoGreen network.
I did Bingo Cafe on Games.Pay-Zero. I actually played with and lost the $20 I deposited. I never even got credit, so I'm not even getting the $20 check.
So then I decided to do the GuaranteedGambling (GoGreen Network) offer on there. I did Oasis Casino (worst fucking internet casino ever. absolute piece of shit web site). Well GuaranteedGambling never gave me credit for this casino (I actually think it was Oasis' fault because their programming was so incredibly shitty), but I found out even if I DID get credit, my $50 I would earn would have been given to Pay-Zero ON TOP of his affiliate pay! That's absolute bullshit if you ask me, especially considering there was absolutely no note about this from either party. GuaranteedGambling is just gonna take their CUSTOMERS' payouts and hand them to their AFFILIATES? That's not how this type of thing works. Period.
My suggestion is to stay away from Pay-Zero and GuaranteedGambling.[/quote8bac743873]
what the fuck! i think it's time mr_black replies to this thread with some explanation, as the above is absolutely outrageous.
JUNIOR6886
19-12-2005 09:46:13
lol i knew pay-zero and go green were shit from the beginning. lol MrBlack isnt a bad guy, he just doesnt have the ability to successful run a freesite. His partners at go green network all have reputations for being pieces of shit and A4Scam whores... my question to you is why did you signup on this site in the first place?
mr_black
19-12-2005 10:09:39
[quotec5acbbf1c7="Archon810"][quotec5acbbf1c7="kevxross"]Yeah, I don't say it often, but as far as I'm concerned fuck Pay-Zero and fuck the GoGreen network.
I did Bingo Cafe on Games.Pay-Zero. I actually played with and lost the $20 I deposited. I never even got credit, so I'm not even getting the $20 check.
So then I decided to do the GuaranteedGambling (GoGreen Network) offer on there. I did Oasis Casino (worst fucking internet casino ever. absolute piece of shit web site). Well GuaranteedGambling never gave me credit for this casino (I actually think it was Oasis' fault because their programming was so incredibly shitty), but I found out even if I DID get credit, my $50 I would earn would have been given to Pay-Zero ON TOP of his affiliate pay! That's absolute bullshit if you ask me, especially considering there was absolutely no note about this from either party. GuaranteedGambling is just gonna take their CUSTOMERS' payouts and hand them to their AFFILIATES? That's not how this type of thing works. Period.
My suggestion is to stay away from Pay-Zero and GuaranteedGambling.[/quotec5acbbf1c7]
what the fuck! i think it's time mr_black replies to this thread with some explanation, as the above is absolutely outrageous.[/quotec5acbbf1c7]
to this, this was the original deal I had with that site, but it changed therefore it wasn't noted. I would like to know who told you that you wouldnt be paid from them, because they are misinformed.
mr_black
19-12-2005 10:25:06
This is the email i recieved notifying me that I would not be paid
[quote6d32a386d0="OfferWeb Email"]From "Joy Miskovich" <joy@offerweb.com>
Subject OfferWeb_NOV Traffic_BingoCafe & JetBingo CPAs
Date Tue, December 13, 2005 1052 am
To email==Admin@pay-zero.comAdmin@pay-zero.com=Admin@pay-zero.comAdmin@pay-zero.com/email
Hello,
You are receiving this email from Bingo Cafe/Jet Bingo because you have been
promoting either of these offers through Offerweb.
We have been monitoring the quality of traffic coming from your link on a
player-by-player basis over the entire period of your incentivized
promotions.
A profit and loss statement is attached for your review. You'll see an
alarming average net loss per player of $140. All ips are attached so you
can trace them back to your user for non-payment, as well. Bingo Café / Jet
Bingo have been consistently losing money on your traffic since you started
promotions. To give you the benefit of the doubt, we allowed November to
continue in the hope that player values would rise to something even close
to a positive net worth, a point where the players were not actually costing
money to have on the books. This has not eventuated.
Many other links tracked by the advertiser using incentivized channels are
showing a positive profit, illustrating that there is nothing wrong with the
model being used, or the operation of the web service. Clearly, we can see
the disparity here between good and bad traffic.
Your players were checked and linked back to you via their IP, and with your
affiliate manager’s assistance, we have been able to ascertain without doubt
that your traffic indeed is of poor quality for this campaign.
Consequently, after previous months of ongoing payment on massive net
losses, we will no longer be paying for your traffic.
You will not be paid for the month of November for any traffic on Bingo Café
or Jet Bingo.
If you have any questions you may direct them to Grant, the bingo manager
directly email==grant@referbingo.comgrant@referbingo.com=grant@referbingo.comgrant@referbingo.com/email
NOTE Your Offerweb commissions will be going out as scheduled, just less
the revenue you'll see tracked in your account from Bingo Cafe & Jet bingo.
Respectfully,
Bingo Cafe
[/quote6d32a386d0]
Like I said in the email to my users I know this is BS and im fighting to get paid. I have checked the list provided and most of you guys arent even there.
This was my response
[quote6d32a386d0="My Reply to the email"]From "admin" <admin@pay-zero.com>
Subject November OfferWeb Leads
Date Thu, December 15, 2005 1246 pm
To email==grant@referbingo.comgrant@referbingo.com=grant@referbingo.comgrant@referbingo.com/email,"Joy Miskovich" <joy@offerweb.com>
Hello Grant,
I am writing to you to discuss and shed light on my unique situation
concerning the non-payment message I received from you.
First of all, let me introduce myself. My name is Patrick Morgan and I
am the owner and administrator of the Pay-Zero Network, which presently
operates http//games.pay-zero.com.
I am concerned by the message that you sent me and think you may have
made a mistake, let me explain why.
You sent me a balance sheet for a large number of players; many more
than actually were referred by my site.
Out of 109 players on the list, only 6 of them exist in my database, the
others are not users from my site.
Out of the 6 users that are from my site, 3 of them caused a loss to
your enterprise and the rest left you with a positive balance.
Out of the 3 that caused a loss, only 1 was actually credited as leads
by you and or offerweb, the company I sourced these offers from.
All this to say that in the general analysis, only 3 credited players
caused losses to your company and I had instituted minimum playing
requirements in place to benefit the advertiser as much as possible.
Please realize that the completion of these offers by my users has
created an obligation from me to them. I can see plainly that
incentivized campaigns do not bring you the kind of traffic you are
looking for, but I find it difficult to accept that this “test” or
whatever you may call it has been done at my expense and that of the
users of my site.
There was no information stated anywhere that could have indicated that
incentivizing your campaigns in the way it was done was against any term
or condition of the offers in question.
Faced with the questioning emails of my users who are now considerably
angry at the idea of not receiving their due, I would ask you to analyze
my account and leads once more so that we may come to an agreeable
solution. These people expected something in exchange and the least that
can be done in a situation like this is for them to get their money back.
Once again, if you analyze the leads and results specific to my site,
you will see that they were considerably better than others you have
placed in the same list and definitely not fraudulent.
Please help me resolve this situation amiably that we may put an end to
it and part on graceful terms.
Yours truly,
Patrick Morgan
Owner – Pay-Zero Network
email==admin@pay-zero.comadmin@pay-zero.com=admin@pay-zero.comadmin@pay-zero.com/email
http//games.pay-zero.com
[/quote6d32a386d0]
justinag06
19-12-2005 16:36:43
justinag06
02-01-2006 21:41:58
liCOUGHli
anyone ever get their giftcard?
justinag06
03-01-2006 22:00:27
ok mr black contacted me and re-inbursed me for the offer
I realized all along it was probably the bingo peoples problem and not his, just let my dissapointment shine through more than my rational.
this is a fair an ending as I can ask for though
mr_black
04-01-2006 01:31:57
[quote2b366c87de="justinag06"]ok mr black contacted me and re-inbursed me for the offer
I realized all along it was probably the bingo peoples problem and not his, just let my dissapointment shine through more than my rational.
this is a fair an ending as I can ask for though[/quote2b366c87de] wink
JUNIOR6886
05-01-2006 05:40:58
thats really big of mrblack to refund the cost of the offers that didnt credit... many other site owners would turn tail and run if the same thing happened to them. I have a lot more respect for him now D
Peinecone
05-01-2006 09:59:49
[quotea97ba38890="justinag06"]ok mr black contacted me and re-inbursed me for the offer
I realized all along it was probably the bingo peoples problem and not his, just let my dissapointment shine through more than my rational.
this is a fair an ending as I can ask for though[/quotea97ba38890]Wanna reimburse me for half of what i paid you then? D
justinag06
05-01-2006 10:04:28
I will reimburse you the full 15
if you refer to my paypal thread it might take awhile
or never
but pm me a neteller and ill do it
thats actually how i noticed my paypal was on hold I was logging in to pay you back