Re-Engineered New GENERATION of Incentive Site Has Arrived

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=28155

onair

08-12-2005 17:23:16

The site RewardBull[=http//www.rewardbull.com/ppc_gate.php?id=4]RewardBull is a NEW GENERATION freebie site that operates on a point based reward system to give you the great flexibilities (No Referral & Sign-Up Needed!) and one of the best payout system.

[b3e9b2a9e7c]My reward system gives you great flexibility PLUS an excellent payout. It is based on a combination of point based and referral based system. It counts your referrals like a referral-based site, and counts the offers you did like a point-based system. You get the best of both worlds.[/b3e9b2a9e7c]

[b3e9b2a9e7c]The Bull System[/b3e9b2a9e7c]
1) By signing up programs, you can earn up to 5 Bull credits. For instance, the EarthLink offer gives you 2 Bull credits. You can sign up multiple offers. Your account page shows you which offers you had previously completed, and which ones that are still available to you.
2) By referring friends, you can earn 1 Bull credit.

[b3e9b2a9e7c]The Payment and Prize System[/b3e9b2a9e7c]
1) We pay you CASH prizes, so you could get whatever you want, free iPod Nano[=http//www.rewardbull.com]free iPod Nano, free iPod Photo[=http//www.rewardbull.com]free iPod Photo and any other free Apple iPod[=http//www.rewardbull.com]free Apple iPod goods, without having to worry a thing about the warranty issue.
2) We have 2 payment options PayPal and Check for you to choose from.

[b3e9b2a9e7c]Arguably the Best Payout System[/b3e9b2a9e7c]
1) We count the program you signed up yourself. And some programs are worth 2-5 Bull credits.
2) You can earn your prizes just by referring friends, no need to do any sign-up yourself.
3) Likwise, you can earn the cash prize just by signing up offers yourself. For example, you can sign up for EarthLink (2 Bulls), Date.com (1 Bull) and Comcast (1 Bull) to qualify for $100 USD Cash prize.
4) Unlike most of the sites that only offers you one full credit to sign up for an expensive or difficult offer, we reward you up to 5 Bulls for them. For example, we offer 2 bulls for DISH Network and Hosting, and 5 Bulls for Casino offer.

[b3e9b2a9e7c]User Interface[/b3e9b2a9e7c]
1) Very pleasant and good looking site design
2) Account page that shows you almost everything. It shows you the offers you had completed, your referrals' email addresses and their status, your own prize status.

Do sign up an account and take a peek inside.

Due to some confusion regarding our reward system and the regular one used by other sites. I will try my best here to explain the differences. Ignore it if you have read this 8)

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[b3e9b2a9e7c]One thing to note is that the Bull Credit is different than Number of Referrals[/b3e9b2a9e7c] (that's used widely on other sites)

Your Total Bull Credit = Bull credits earned from signing up programs (Yes, you can sign up more than one offer) yourself + Number of Referrals.

Let me just give you an example
Say you signed up EarthLink and referal 2 friends.

Your Total Bull Credit = 2 Bulls (for your Earth Link Sign Up) + 2 Bulls (for referring friends) => you are entitled to receive $100 USD Cash, which you can use to buy Shuffle or anything else.

However, you will only earn 2 referral credit with other sites and still need 1 EXTRA referal to meet the shuffle requirement (suppose that site needs 3 referrals for it).

To conclude, the 4 Bull credits is better than 3 referral count.

Another Example
When you do other freebie sites. You HAVE to sign up one offer (1 full credit offer) and then you have to refer friends. And that even if you sign up for casino offer, they will only credit you 1 full credit and you still have to many referrals to go. On the other hand, if you are my member, you just need to sign up ONE casino offer (5 bulls), then you will get $100.

I hope by now, you can see my reward system offers arguably the Best Payout.
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I am open minded, so please do let me hear your opinions. Yes, I love my cool title. I tip my hat to Gigante for that lol No, I am not going to change it. Have a laugh or two. D

J4320

08-12-2005 17:24:49

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x323smostwantedx

08-12-2005 17:26:58

dance2 ( roll )

JUNIOR6886

08-12-2005 17:30:46

let me guess....
you stumbled on to the site and you arent the site owner lol lol lol

Stroid

08-12-2005 17:33:18

[quote769f3259bd="JUNIOR6886"]let me guess....
you stumbled on to the site and you arent the site owner lol lol lol[/quote769f3259bd] yeah exactly what i thought

Daggoth

08-12-2005 17:33:38

How does the iPod Photo cost more than the iPod Video?

Sweeney2066

08-12-2005 17:33:50

Oh because this has never happened before?

theysayjump

08-12-2005 17:45:34

I like the way the site is laid out and the look of it, but he fails to mention that all the offers are expensive ones like hosting, or ancestry.com, poker or ISP's.

johnjimjones

08-12-2005 17:47:19

[quote72c638f74a="onair"]The site (RewardBull.com) has many uniquie features and benefits. One of the key features is that the site operates on a point based system, so no referals and sign-up necessary. Also, it offers payout ratio and sends you speedy cash payment via PayPal and Check.


Other Key Benefits
1.No Referral and Sign-Up Necessary
[b72c638f74a]2.Best Payout Ratio Avaliable [/b72c638f74a]
3.Point-Based Reward System
4.Unparalleled User Interaface
5.Active Community Giving Away Free iPods.
6.Speedy On-time Payment Via PayPal and Check

Check it out.[/quote72c638f74a]

Not so much. Freepay iPod Nanos 5 referals.

[quote72c638f74a="theysayjump"]I like the way the site is laid out and the look of it, but he fails to mention that all the offers are expensive ones like hosting, or ancestry.com, poker or ISP's.[/quote72c638f74a]

I agree nice layout.

EatChex89

08-12-2005 17:47:42

ahaha

their iPod video isn't even the real thing.. they probably send you a i-i-iPod v-v-video

drummer_kew_03

08-12-2005 17:51:07

Yeah, what is that a picture of? That's a load of bull. HAHA!! Get it?!

J4320

08-12-2005 17:54:23

Is it just me or is there a checkbox sitting by itself?

I noticed if you highlight after it, you can see the TOS.

EatChex89

08-12-2005 17:58:37

[quote350f3cd0b0="J4320"]Is it just me or is there a checkbox sitting by itself?

I noticed if you highlight after it, you can see the TOS.[/quote350f3cd0b0]

no in firefox you can see it.... its white.

[quote350f3cd0b0="drummer_kew_03"]Yeah, what is that a picture of? That's a load of bull. HAHA!! Get it?![/quote350f3cd0b0]

you're a funny man.

J4320

08-12-2005 18:01:45

[quote223df9e707="EatChex89"][quote223df9e707="J4320"]Is it just me or is there a checkbox sitting by itself?

I noticed if you highlight after it, you can see the TOS.[/quote223df9e707]

no in firefox you can see it.... its white.

[quote223df9e707="drummer_kew_03"]Yeah, what is that a picture of? That's a load of bull. HAHA!! Get it?![/quote223df9e707]

you're a funny man.[/quote223df9e707]

I'm in firefox.

EatChex89

08-12-2005 18:04:18

[quotea25af2d07d="J4320"][quotea25af2d07d="EatChex89"][quotea25af2d07d="J4320"]Is it just me or is there a checkbox sitting by itself?

I noticed if you highlight after it, you can see the TOS.[/quotea25af2d07d]

no in firefox you can see it.... its white.

[quotea25af2d07d="drummer_kew_03"]Yeah, what is that a picture of? That's a load of bull. HAHA!! Get it?![/quotea25af2d07d]

you're a funny man.[/quotea25af2d07d]

I'm in firefox.[/quotea25af2d07d]

maybe you'r computer is having a period.

drummer_kew_03

08-12-2005 18:04:53

I see it no problem.

Grr, I keep skipping over my avatar everytime i'm looking for my last post cause I changed it.

onair

08-12-2005 18:08:35

Those expensive offers give you multiple credits. If you look around other sites, they just offer you 1 full credit

turpentinedreams

08-12-2005 18:10:48

so its like all ood's and ore referals than freepay?
great.

EatChex89

08-12-2005 18:11:54

[quote4b088f5e5c="onair"]Those expensive offers give you multiple credits. If you look around other sites, they just offer you 1 full credit[/quote4b088f5e5c]

onair (pronounced OWN AIRE) is similarly pronounced as OWNER (pronounced OWN AIRE)

onair

08-12-2005 18:12:54

don't take my words for it, sign up an account and take a look inside yourself.

EatChex89

08-12-2005 18:14:33

[quotec009b4fcaa="onair"][bc009b4fcaa]don't take my words for it[/bc009b4fcaa], sign up an account and take a look inside yourself.[/quotec009b4fcaa]

ok i won't.

J4320

08-12-2005 18:16:21

[quotef512edcf45="EatChex89"][quotef512edcf45="onair"][bf512edcf45]don't take my words for it[/bf512edcf45], sign up an account and take a look inside yourself.[/quotef512edcf45]

ok i won't.[/quotef512edcf45]

lol

onair

08-12-2005 18:17:13

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J4320

08-12-2005 18:19:55

I think you need to research the prizes before you add them to your site.

Kidd

08-12-2005 18:26:39

use my link [b7abb283054]www.rewardBULLSHIT.com[/b7abb283054]

8)

Allen626

08-12-2005 18:29:08

I am not sure why you guys are saying he is acting like he is not the owner. His whole post layout almost says he is, and he has not denied that he is not the owner. Nice site layout.

onair

08-12-2005 18:35:13

Well, if you read the site carefully, you would know that 1 Bull credit is not equal to 1 Referal. You can earn Bull credits by signing up multiple offers with many offers give you 2 and more Bull credits.

For example, if you join one 2 Bull credit Offer (say EarthLink), you only need to refer 2 friends to get the $100 prize. On the other hand, other sites require you to get 3 referals for the prize.

The bull credits seem a lot, that is only because the system counts the offer you yourself signed up too.

If you compare the site with others more carefully, I am sure you will agree it offers the BEST payout. Just note that 5 Bulls = 4 Referals (if the program you signed up only gives you 1 Bull).

EatChex89

08-12-2005 18:36:15

[quotec861a60ddf="onair"]Well, if you read the site carefully, you would know that 1 Bull credit is not equal to 1 Referal. You can earn Bull credits by signing up multiple offers with many offers give you 2 and more Bull credits.

For example, if you join one 2 Bull credit Offer (say EarthLink), you only need to refer 2 friends to get the $100 prize. On the other hand, other sites require you to get 3 referals for the prize.

The bull credits seem a lot, that is only because the system counts the offer you yourself signed up too.

If you compare the site with others more carefully, I am sure you will agree it offers the BEST payout. Just note that 5 Bulls = 4 Referals (if the program you signed up only gives you 1 Bull).[/quotec861a60ddf]

i'd say that the bull is BULL

htf did you come up with bull??

onair

08-12-2005 18:37:44

And Yes, I am the owner.

I have done a lot of research and put a lot of effort into the site, so that you guys have a pleasant experience, if not the best.

EatChex89

08-12-2005 18:40:15

[quote70d555ad4b="onair"]And Yes, I am the owner.

I have done a lot of research and put a lot of effort into the site, so that you guys have a pleasant experience, if not the best.[/quote70d555ad4b]

well. in case you don't know. we bash sites until they are proven legit. ;-)

anyhow. were you drinking a red bull when you came up with the name?

oh an dalso.

you didn't reingineer anything.

onair

08-12-2005 18:43:24

Well, Bull is kind of a metaphor. Don't we all love "Bullish" stock market?

Kidd

08-12-2005 18:47:51

or dont we love ur bullshit website sorta thing rite

onair

08-12-2005 18:49:07

The site is legit; otherwise, i won't make a post about its launch here. We all know how tough a community forum crowd can be, and how resourceful are the forum members.

My logic is this If you guys love it, I would have no problem selling it to the general public.

EatChex89

08-12-2005 18:54:53

[quotefa78897574="onair"]The site is legit; otherwise, i won't make a post about its launch here. We all know how tough a community forum crowd can be, and how resourceful are the forum members.

My logic is this If you guys love it, I would have no problem selling it to the general public.[/quotefa78897574]

don't make the mistake of coobro network.

they advertised only on freebie forums.. those who knew what they were doing, and int he end had to shut down..

Daggoth

08-12-2005 18:55:56

yah, you should advertise to people who wont finish your sites...

onair

08-12-2005 19:00:15

well.. i want to get more feedbacks.

EatChex89

08-12-2005 19:02:12

[quote7a7a68d77c="onair"]well.. i want to get more feedbacks.[/quote7a7a68d77c]

www.redbull.com

ajrock2000

08-12-2005 19:02:51

awesome looking layout...where the hell are the prizes?

onair

08-12-2005 19:07:08

The prizes are paid in Cash, either send to you via PayPal or Check.

J4320

08-12-2005 19:10:09

Lol...

[quote5db0341e27] ACTIVE COMMUNITY

We have launched an online forum giving away Free Apple Shufflers. We are devoted to provide our members and visitors with the [b5db0341e27]Best Free Ipod Forum available[/b5db0341e27], where you can win Apple Ipods while getting your support from our active Free Ipod community.
[/quote5db0341e27]

Are you kidding? It has 3 threads in it. Stop calling yourself the best at everything.

onair

08-12-2005 19:14:29

that part, is a bit over-stated. But I will be giving away Free iPod Shuffles for active forum members. Not many forums do that.

EatChex89

08-12-2005 19:18:10

[quote5ff997cef7="onair"]that part, is a bit over-stated. But I will be giving away Free iPod Shuffles for active forum members. [b5ff997cef7]Not many forums do that[/b5ff997cef7].[/quote5ff997cef7]

my mom's forum does

onair

08-12-2005 19:20:48

Well, then your mom's forum is one of the few forums that do that.

EatChex89

08-12-2005 19:21:57

[quote4ee14d71e3="onair"]Well, then your mom's forum is one of the few forums that do that.[/quote4ee14d71e3]

yea my mom also gives away redbull drinks.

onair

08-12-2005 19:23:01

LOL

shortys408

08-12-2005 19:23:21

i dont see what this site is offering that other sites dont offer.

shortys408

08-12-2005 19:24:55

[quote429ccb8af9="EatChex89"][quote429ccb8af9="onair"]The site is legit; otherwise, i won't make a post about its launch here. We all know how tough a community forum crowd can be, and how resourceful are the forum members.

My logic is this If you guys love it, I would have no problem selling it to the general public.[/quote429ccb8af9]

don't make the mistake of coobro network.

they advertised only on freebie forums.. those who knew what they were doing, and int he end had to shut down..[/quote429ccb8af9]

Why did you have to remind me of all the money i wont be receiving (

EatChex89

08-12-2005 19:25:38

[quote3dc39e6f69="shortys408"][quote3dc39e6f69="EatChex89"][quote3dc39e6f69="onair"]The site is legit; otherwise, i won't make a post about its launch here. We all know how tough a community forum crowd can be, and how resourceful are the forum members.

My logic is this If you guys love it, I would have no problem selling it to the general public.[/quote3dc39e6f69]

don't make the mistake of coobro network.

they advertised only on freebie forums.. those who knew what they were doing, and int he end had to shut down..[/quote3dc39e6f69]

Why did you have to remind me of all the money i wont be receiving ([/quote3dc39e6f69]

i dunno.

poor coobro people.

onair

08-12-2005 19:26:12

That site allows you sign up multiple offers to get FREE CASH. You can sign up for 2 offers yourself and earn enough credits to get the CASH. Also, do check out the interface, it allows you to track order status, and it shows you what programs you had previously joined.

shortys408

08-12-2005 19:28:10

so how is that different from everyfreegift?
can you beat a 6 offer 2500$ payout )

ajrock2000

08-12-2005 19:57:40

[quote3a6ae35170="shortys408"]so how is that different from everyfreegift?
can you beat a 6 offer 2500$ payout )[/quote3a6ae35170]

lol lol lol lol lol

Crynos

08-12-2005 20:21:24

All bashing of the reengineering aside...I really like the the design of the site.
Edit One thing though, dont add bullshit testimonials, it makes you look shady

drummer_kew_03

08-12-2005 20:33:31

[quoteea1eed4fa3]Vegas Red

Deposit Min. $250 & Play Min. $400 Total Wager to [bea1eed4fa3]Earn 4 Bulls[/bea1eed4fa3].
You will be credited within 5 business days
Completing this offer wil give you [bea1eed4fa3]5 bulls[/bea1eed4fa3].[/quoteea1eed4fa3]

?

onair

08-12-2005 21:38:35

Absoultely. I can offer you 7 Bull credits (which is the same as signed up one offer and referred 6 friends) and pay you $2800.

But all the offers are Casino offers. PM me if you are interested.

onair

08-12-2005 21:42:46

[quote6ece679f58="onair"]Absoultely. I can offer you 7 Bull credits (which is the same as signed up one offer and referred 6 friends) and pay you $2800.

But all the offers are Casino offers. PM me if you are interested.[/quote6ece679f58]

Check it now again, the bug is FIXED.

hairyferry

09-12-2005 03:05:02

[quote8f125e6102="Kidd"]use my link [b8f125e6102]www.rewardBULLSHIT.com[/b8f125e6102]

8)[/quote8f125e6102]

haha.. I think Owners of a site SPECIALLY noobs should ask a mod or Adim if they can advertise because obviously that's what he's doing.

onair

09-12-2005 03:06:47

I am flattered that you guys love the site design.

My goal is to provide you with the best experience, so your feedbacks are greatly welcomed and appreciated.

onair

09-12-2005 03:20:05

I want to clear up some confusions here.

Our Bull credit calculation is totally different than Referral calculation that is widely used in other free sites.

Your Total Bull credit = Bulls earned from signing up offers yourself + Number of Referrals

Referral Credit (used by other sites) = Number of Referrals

Let me just give you an example
Say you signed up EarthLink and referal 2 friends.

Your Total Bull Credit = 2 Bulls (for your Earth Link Sign Up) + 2 Bulls (for referring friends) => you are entitled to receive $100 USD Cash, which you can use to buy Shuffle or anything else.

However, you will only earn 2 referral credit with other sites and still need 1 EXTRA referal to meet the shuffle requirement.

I hope that explains )

You can earn Bulls by signing up MULTIPLE offers and referring friends. The freedom is yours!

hairyferry

09-12-2005 04:23:18

How is it you have testimonials for people getting prizes but only 7 posts in your forum and they're all admin? Also, are there anymore offers coming out?

dudeextrem2000

09-12-2005 08:17:15

some one please tell me im not dreaming when i look @ the video pic, its not even the real thing!

johnjimjones

09-12-2005 08:18:26

[quote70796a1f5c="hairyferry"]How is it you have testimonials for people getting prizes but only 7 posts in your forum and they're all admin? Also, are there anymore offers coming out?[/quote70796a1f5c]

Pic of himself? lol

EatChex89

09-12-2005 09:14:00

[quotedddd99a1f3="johnjimjones"][quotedddd99a1f3="hairyferry"]How is it you have testimonials for people getting prizes but only 7 posts in your forum and they're all admin? Also, are there anymore offers coming out?[/quotedddd99a1f3]

Pic of himself? lol[/quotedddd99a1f3]

ahaha they probably are pics of himself.

and too bad he didn't re-engineer anything.

justinag06

09-12-2005 09:45:03

If you are the site owner you can at least claim to be him, and buy a forum or custom title from admin so we know who to contact.

Airkat

09-12-2005 10:43:31

umm, how is there a testimonial already? Your site isn't even old enough to have an alexa ranking. And there's no one active in the forums so how is he saying he loves the free ipod forums?

Airkat

09-12-2005 10:43:55

crap, someone beat me to that point haha

Airkat

09-12-2005 10:47:47

[quote347a89cbeb="J4320"]Lol...

[quote347a89cbeb] ACTIVE COMMUNITY

We have launched an online forum giving away Free Apple [b347a89cbeb]Shufflers[/b347a89cbeb]. We are devoted to provide our members and visitors with the [b347a89cbeb]Best Free Ipod Forum available[/b347a89cbeb], where you can win Apple Ipods while getting your support from our active Free Ipod community.
[/quote347a89cbeb]

Are you kidding? It has 3 threads in it. Stop calling yourself the best at everything.[/quote347a89cbeb]

Apple shufflers? Sounds like a job in a 3rd worl country. Love the layout tho

EatChex89

09-12-2005 10:57:07

i saw we all pitch in to buy a $7 title to put him as "bullSHIT.com"

justinag06

09-12-2005 11:13:23

no

theysayjump

09-12-2005 12:31:05

[quote9c0e8ee82f="dudeextrem2000"]some one please tell me im not dreaming when i look @ the video pic, its not even the real thing![/quote9c0e8ee82f]

Exactly. I don't even know wtf that is. roll

johnjimjones

09-12-2005 12:42:53

[quote2d8a5ba463="EatChex89"]i saw we all pitch in to buy a $7 title to put him as "bullSHIT.com"[/quote2d8a5ba463]
Knock yourself out.
how about displaying a offer list and "bullcredits" for them?

onair

09-12-2005 14:54:22

The site is sending Cash Prizes for you to purchase iPods.

Gigante

09-12-2005 18:06:28

Nice title onair

hairyferry

09-12-2005 19:00:27

hahaha.. ah man, gotta love it.

Gigante

09-12-2005 19:01:34

.....wasn't me.....lol

I thought it was fitting.

onair

09-12-2005 19:03:06

I appreciate the black humor. $7 a lousy title. )

Gigante

09-12-2005 19:07:40

And I appreciate your entertainment.

fgr_admin

09-12-2005 19:13:57

LOL, though I am not a fan of the name or the "bulls" I think maybe you all should cut him some slack.

Hes trying, hes available, and he's been very nice even though yall have been bashing.

Things you dont see much with site owners.

Also I doubt many of yall were around when Gratis first opened. They sucked ass as well. I originally joined them the first month they opened. They sucked, lol. Had problems and scripting errors. They stuck with it and now look at them.

Everybody loves freebie stuff or they wouldnt be here. So why not help him instead of bashing.

I'm not telling you to join his site, thats your decision. Why not spend your time on honest and helpful points instead of the crap rolling off your tongues.

onair

09-12-2005 19:30:23

Thanks for your post, fgr_admin.

I just hope the site gives you guys something different and uniquie. The look, the user interface, the name and the credit sytem are all quite different than any other free sites out there.

Maybe some of you guys don't like the name that much, but I think it does make an impression, either good or bad. At least you won't forget it the next day, hopefully.

I am not going to buy back that title anytime soon. Have a Laugh or two on me ;)

Gigante, thanks for that title, no hard feelings. It's funny.

Gigante

09-12-2005 20:22:32

I actually like the idea of your site. A combination. Just don't like the name of it, hehe.

onair

10-12-2005 04:27:33

I am glad u like the idea. The reward system is our whole selling point.

shamash

10-12-2005 06:25:36

I like the idea and name and look of your site. Also, I don't see why people are complaining about you advertising for it, as you haven't denied being the owner.

Also, every newly opened site I've seen has had testimonials. Those aren't for people at FiPG, but for people who are newer to free sites, and want to make sure that people actually get iPods. I think it looks fairly legit, and can't wait for you to start sending out prizes.

mrwzk

10-12-2005 06:56:21

i dont feel like reading the whole post i just have a quick question.

u get 1 bull pt per referal so if i refered 4 freinds i would get 100$ or is there some restriction like they have to complte a certain amount of offers?

Gigante

10-12-2005 08:11:15

You get the point when they do an offer.

mrwzk

10-12-2005 08:27:23

hmm i dont see how this site is cheap referals than, its casion offers and earthlink like offers and its the same referals as a normal site like freepay which is cheaper offers. the referal system isnt that special its just like freepays where you get a completed referal if they do an offer.

i could be missing something but this doesnt seem like too good of a deal

[quotea78971957b="onair"]Absoultely. I can offer you 7 Bull credits (which is the same as signed up one offer and referred 6 friends) and pay you $2800.

But all the offers are Casino offers. PM me if you are interested.[/quotea78971957b]
the site has 8 bulls for 350$ how is there such a big gap in what you are saying here and what the site has

fgr_admin

10-12-2005 09:15:47

[quotee77d663888="mrwzk"]hmm i dont see how this site is cheap referals than, its casion offers and earthlink like offers and its the same referals as a normal site like freepay which is cheaper offers. the referal system isnt that special its just like freepays where you get a completed referal if they do an offer.

i could be missing something but this doesnt seem like too good of a deal

[quotee77d663888="onair"]Absoultely. I can offer you 7 Bull credits (which is the same as signed up one offer and referred 6 friends) and pay you $2800.

But all the offers are Casino offers. PM me if you are interested.[/quotee77d663888]
the site has 8 bulls for 350$ how is there such a big gap in what you are saying here and what the site has[/quotee77d663888]


Yea the point system looks off to me as well and have mentioned such to him.

I think a lot of it has to do with how new his site is. I think things could look a lot better once he adds new offers.

I think the trick will be adding new ones that not only are new to US, but allow him to make money as well.

Gigante

10-12-2005 09:39:19

I didn't know what the offers were. If they are all that hard, then his referral count is definitely too high.

onair

10-12-2005 14:28:34

Well. Let me explain something here.

There is no referral count here. If you sign up for one casino offer yourself, you earn 5 Bulls, and are entitled to receive $100 cash prize. You don't need to refer anyone.

Compared to other sites, like freepay, once you had signed up for the casino offer, you still have to refer friends to do sign-ups.

There are many offers listed in my site, and I will add new ones every week or so. The easier offers will give you 1 to 2 Bulls, and difficult ones will give you 3 to 5 Bulls.

When you do other freebie sites. You HAVE to sign up one offer (1 full credit offer) and Refer friends. And that even if you sign up for casino offer, they will only credit you 1 full credit and you still have to get referrals. On the other hand, if you are my member, you just need to sign up ONE casino offer, then you will get $100.

There is no referral count. You are just 1 offer away from the prize. I hope you can see why I claim to offer the best payout now. 8)

johnjimjones

10-12-2005 14:36:08

ooooohhh I think its becoming clear now.
I guess its sort of a better points system. I don't know how much better the cost(of doing offers) to prize received is but I think I get the system.

onair

10-12-2005 14:55:17

I know how confusing the system can be. The system is complicated because I want to offer you guys something unique and flexible, besides the best Payout.

I could have used to the old referral system, and used a smaller referral count. But then I said to myself I want something different and better.

Brok3n_Sword

10-12-2005 15:06:48

Sorry if this has been covered before, I've just been skimming. How often do you send out rewards? (Time period for shipping after approval)

onair

10-12-2005 15:13:38

I will send out checks and PayPal payment every month. Checks may take few days to arrive, and PayPal payment arrives instantly.

You can track your prize status on your account page. It will show you everything. I will email you once you are entitled to receive prize too.

VrExe

10-12-2005 16:53:51

[quote2c7a5aba14="Gigante"]I didn't know what the offers were. If they are all that hard, then his referral count is definitely too high.[/quote2c7a5aba14]

We could re-word that into "the requirements" are way too high.
There are sites out there with casino offers that require only 2 friends to sign up and 1 urself to get a free iPod nano. So that's 3 total sign up.

rewardbull, however, requires double the amount of that other site.

johnjimjones

10-12-2005 17:01:59

[quotec942b32821="VrExe"][quotec942b32821="Gigante"]I didn't know what the offers were. If they are all that hard, then his referral count is definitely too high.[/quotec942b32821]

We could re-word that into "the requirements" are way too high.
There are sites out there with casino offers that require only 2 friends to sign up and 1 urself to get a free iPod nano. So that's 3 total sign up.

rewardbull, however, requires double the amount of that other site.[/quotec942b32821]

But he just said earlier that if you do one casino site (yourself-noreferals) you get 5 bull credits and that alone can get you the iPod mini, and then if you did just one more offer you could get the Nano.

I really think if you layed out what offers give you so many bullcredits you will get more people to do this.
Example
arrow Earthlink ISP - Sign up for this service - 2 bullcredits
arrow YadaYada Casino - Make a $50 deposit and play $100 - 5 bullcredits

IF you did both of these offers you are eligible to get an iPod Video.
Correct me if I'm wrong.

VrExe

10-12-2005 17:12:21

I see, well I didn't see that YadaYada casion offer. It's not showing on my offer list.
All I see is Vegas Red
Deposit Min. $250 & Play Min. $400 Total Wager to Earn 5 Bulls.
You will be credited within 5 business days
Completing this offer wil give you 5 bulls.

which you have to deposit $250. Pffttt...

Like I don't want to argue or anything but I just think we should get more Bull testicles for casion offers.

johnjimjones

10-12-2005 17:15:59

[quotebabcda3955="VrExe"]I see, well I didn't see that YadaYada casion offer. It's not showing on my offer list.
All I see is Vegas Red
Deposit Min. $250 & Play Min. $400 Total Wager to Earn 5 Bulls.
You will be credited within 5 business days
Completing this offer wil give you 5 bulls.

which you have to deposit $250. Pffttt...

Like I don't want to argue or anything but I just think we should get more Bull testicles for casion offers.[/quotebabcda3955]

lol sry I made up that casino just for the example

onair

10-12-2005 17:55:12

Well. The thing with Casino offer is like this

I set the min. inital deposit condition to $250 and $400 Total Wage just to be on the safe side.

Casinos want quality customers. They lose a lot if people just deposit, play a few hands and withdraw their money. They have been paying extra attention to incentive sites. If they found out all my members are not real customers, they will end the affiliate program and refuse to pay the outstanding fee. I set the bar a bit higher just to make sure all you guys can get the prize.

Now, if you sign up a casino offer, you get 5 Bulls and your referral gets one. That is a total of 6 Bulls given for one casino offer. If you sign up a casino offer in other freebie site, you just earn 1 full credit and still have many referrals to go.

Do the comparision. ;)

ghondi

10-12-2005 19:17:46

signed up for the forums and posted.........I like the layout alot by the way.

Gigante

10-12-2005 19:58:30

[quote4651e4418b="onair"]Well. The thing with Casino offer is like this

I set the min. inital deposit condition to $250 and $400 Total Wage just to be on the safe side.

Casinos want quality customers. They lose a lot if people just deposit, play a few hands and withdraw their money. They have been paying extra attention to incentive sites. If they found out all my members are not real customers, they will end the affiliate program and refuse to pay the outstanding fee. I set the bar a bit higher just to make sure all you guys can get the prize.

Now, if you sign up a casino offer, you get 5 Bulls and your referral gets one. That is a total of 6 Bulls given for one casino offer. If you sign up a casino offer in other freebie site, you just earn 1 full credit and still have many referrals to go.

Do the comparision. ;)[/quote4651e4418b]

I am pretty sure that Vegas Red requires that for anybody to count as a lead they have to deposit $250, at least with who you are advertising with. I doubt you made it higher because people signing up are usually interested in playing with their money and not just leaving it, so they are an actual customer.

onair

10-12-2005 20:02:27

Thank you for pointing that one out.

I am pretty confident that some sites do lower the initial deposit to maybe $200 for Vegas Red. And some sites just don't list anything out and refuse to pay afterwards.

onair

10-12-2005 20:03:21

There are always sites that do not follow the guidelines given, risking their members' money.

Gigante

10-12-2005 20:44:31

Yeah, lowering it is dumb, although there are affiliate networks that have reduced deposit campaigns that just don't payout as well.

onair

10-12-2005 20:52:42

I will be looking into casinos that require lower initial deposit. Just to give members more variety.

ConfusedPigeon

11-12-2005 00:25:24

?

onair

11-12-2005 02:07:10

Are you having a bad day ConfusedPigeon?

Just take a look at my title. It will make you feel SO much better.

VrExe

11-12-2005 07:48:35

The casino thing has to be really lowered because it doesn't sound really good.

Essentially, it's like paying for a new iPod nano anyways.

Sure you can win more money in casion but it's only 49% chance of winning hands while playing poker so... Anyone can do the math here.

Other wise, you convinced me, rewardBulltesticles is a pretty unique idea.

onair

11-12-2005 14:57:18

Thanks for your inputs, VrExe.

The min. initial requirement is set forth by the casinos, and I am just following their guidelines to be safe. I am not going to take a gamble with my members' money.

I am currently seeking great casino offers that require a lower initial. If you guys know any, please post it here or PM me.

VrExe

11-12-2005 18:50:07

Will I get a bull testicle or two if I help you find one?
P

onair

11-12-2005 21:31:48

Sure thing. ) Just use your cash prize to buy them.

I have added many easier offers, check them out.

onair

12-12-2005 02:55:55

Check out the Best Payout Challenge.

onair

12-12-2005 21:21:11

We have a winner already. ) YAHOO!

justinag06

13-12-2005 03:41:12

what is it re-engineered from may I ask?

mrwzk

13-12-2005 03:45:34

he thinks it a new kinda site because it offers

u can do multiple offers and refer freinds to get your prize. when realy this isnt a new idea at all. he claims its 100% referal commision but thats only true if the referal does a 1 bull offer if i did a 5 bull offer you would onlt get 1 bull. aka a complete marked under you is basicly what the whole revolutionary system is about.

justinag06

13-12-2005 03:48:54

no I understand but the term re-engineered implies there was a previous site he used to run.

onair

13-12-2005 03:51:38

Most people will sign-up low bull offers, like 1 bull and 2 bull offers. And they will get referral commission 50% - 100%.

VrExe

13-12-2005 09:51:22

[quoteffa4f62887="justinag06"]no I understand but the term re-engineered implies there was a previous site he used to run.[/quoteffa4f62887]

He is talking about re-engineered incentive site.

chewy

13-12-2005 10:49:03

i wouild never sign up for this site, simply because that video ipod does not exist. it make the whole site look shady. where is that from anyway?

onair

13-12-2005 15:39:19

chewy. My designer team is not a big fan of iPod. Don't blame them. They are going to have it fixed shortly.

JUNIOR6886

13-12-2005 15:47:01

I commend onair for remaining calm after all the insults that have been thrown at him. Hes showed a level of maturity that many independent free site owners just dont have....

However. 4 bulls for an ipod shuffle is well... bull
OC and freepay are both offering it for 3 refs.......
and like one of the posters above said. That thing you are trying to label as a videoipod makes your site look VERY SHADY. I dont care if your design team are ipod fans or not. It would only take 1 second on google image search to find a picture of what a real video ipod looks like. I hope you arent paying your design team too much money.

onair

13-12-2005 16:14:08

Junior6886, thank you for your kind compliment.

4 Bull is really equivalent to 3 refs, for my site counts the offer you did towards the your total credit. whereas other freebies site ignore it.

Although I haven't checked, I believe that my site gives some offers you found on those two sites a 2-Bull credits, that means you need only 2 more refs to get the $100 Cash Prize.

If you are still not satisfied, please PM me, we can definitely work something out.

onair

13-12-2005 16:18:40

I don't look at the feedbacks I got here as insults. Actually, I appreciate them. Feedbacks help me to know my members better and thus able me to provide a better service that will satisfy you guys better.

onair

13-12-2005 16:20:12

For example, without you guys pointing out that iPOD Video pic, I would not have found that flaw. Thanks again. ;)

Gigante

13-12-2005 17:28:52

Heh, I don't see how you would not have found that flaw? Even if you have never seen an iPod (who hasn't?), it doesn't look anything like the other iPods posted on the page, heh.

mrwzk

13-12-2005 17:45:29

hes known it was an error since he posted here it was one of the first things to be said about this site

onair

13-12-2005 21:04:27

I have known this flaw for quite some time, and that flaw will be fixed shortly. )

shamash

13-12-2005 21:10:13

ps - kerms @ orderit4free lets you use a mix of referrals and completions, just ask him about it. this [b0e334e2a4c]bull[/b0e334e2a4c]shit is nothing new.

theysayjump

13-12-2005 21:28:52

Doesn't this just mean that you are going to SPAM us?

[quote2f599aa50e]I. Membership

1. 1. All users must provide 100% accurate information about their identity.
2. A user must have a valid email address and a valid shipping address in the United States, Canada and the United Kingdom. A user must have a valid PayPal account to receive PayPal payment. A user is responsible for making the Apple ipod purchase upon receiving our free cash payment.
3. Only one account is allowed per shipping address. All accounts with the same shipping address will be placed on hold. There is no guarantee that they will ever be taken off of hold. Also, there is no guarantee that they will ever be able to receive our cash payment to purchase free Apple ipods.
4. One person may not have more than one account at RewardBull.com, even if they provide different shipping addresses. If a person is suspected of having more then one account, all suspicious accounts will be placed on hold. There is no guarantee that they will ever be taken off of hold. Also, there is no guarantee that they will ever be able to receive our cash payment to purchase free ipods.
5. Referrals can not be transferred or donated from one account to another. Two or more accounts can not be merged into one account.
6. If your account is placed on hold, you are not permitted to create another account. Any user who is found to create an account when they already have an account that is on hold will be banned from RewardBull.com and will not be entitled to receive any cash payments, thus, will not get your free ipods.
[u2f599aa50e][i2f599aa50e][b2f599aa50e] 7. By registering for an account on RewardBull.com, you agree to receive any third party messages that we wish to send to you, including, but not limited to, third party advertisements and offers.[/b2f599aa50e][/i2f599aa50e][/u2f599aa50e][/color2f599aa50e]
8. You agree to use RewardBull.com only for lawful purposes. You agree not to take any action that might compromise the security of the site, render the site inaccessible to others or otherwise cause damage to the site or the content. You agree not to add to, subtract from, or otherwise modify the content. You agree not to use the site in any manner that might interfere with ANY rights of RewardBull.com or any third party. You agree that everything, besides materials supplied by our sponsors and logos and trademarks of Apple ipods, presented on RewardBull.com is the property of its owner
9. Any unauthorized use, entry, or hacking into RewardBull.com is illegal and is punishable by law. The slightest violation of any law will provide sufficient impetus for us to prosecute the offender to the fullest extent of that law.[/quote2f599aa50e]

Gigante

13-12-2005 21:48:27

[quote4b6297f8b6="theysayjump"]Doesn't this just mean that you are going to SPAM us?

[/quote4b6297f8b6]

wtf, why would he put that in there? How lame.

shamash

13-12-2005 22:07:16

EL OH EL.

onair

13-12-2005 22:46:44

Why would I want to spam you guys? Spam is just bad for business. The only reason I am putting it here is so I could send you guys special offers I got from my list of sponsors.

For example, I will send stuff like Sign EarthLink Offer between Dec 22 to Dec 25 and get 3 Bulls. Things like that.

Anyone who doesn't want to receive those emails can send me request via support ticket to have them excluded from that.

I hope that explains.

onair

13-12-2005 22:53:33

Many things that I put in there just for legal sake. I hope you guys can understand that. If you look carefully at other freebie sites' term and condition, they have clauses like that listed too. That does not mean we are going to spam you.

akalic

13-12-2005 22:54:51

well done ol chap

theysayjump

13-12-2005 23:23:04

[quote41d951fa7f="onair"]Why would I want to spam you guys? Spam is just bad for business. The only reason I am putting it here is so I could send you guys special offers I got from my list of sponsors.

For example, I will send stuff like Sign EarthLink Offer between Dec 22 to Dec 25 and get 3 Bulls. Things like that.

Anyone who doesn't want to receive those emails can send me request via support ticket to have them excluded from that.

I hope that explains.[/quote41d951fa7f]

If you are going to be sending us e-mails like you described above, then maybe that's what you should say, but as it's worded at the moment, you are saying by us agreeing to the TOS, that we allow you to send us third party advertisements and offers.

You are not a third party site, so the e-mails you describe in the current TOS that we are agreeing to, leads one to believe that we are going to be receiving unwanted e-mails from anything that you decide you want send us.

Also, could you please stop making 19 posts in a row and just stick to the edit button?

onair

13-12-2005 23:24:01

Well, I will have that term removed shortly. just to make u happy ;)

theysayjump

13-12-2005 23:26:36

Cheese makes me happy, can you add that to the TOS?

onair

13-12-2005 23:39:03

LOL

JUNIOR6886

14-12-2005 04:05:29

Im gonna be the guinea pig and sign up cheer
If anyone wants to be my ref im paying $15

onair

14-12-2005 04:32:36

I feel humiliated by $15. ;)

Say you pay $30 per ref. As long as you can get 5 or more people, you are earning a profit. If you can get 8 refs, your profit is $110.

JUNIOR6886

14-12-2005 04:33:48

I hate independent sites that only payout once a month.
That leads me to believe that the site has no initial funding.......
you should be sending prizes AS SOON AS THE USER MEETS THE REQUIREMENTS for his gift. That is really all you need to seperate yourself from and place you above the countless wanna-be gratis and OC sites....

Example Even though OC doesnt exactly have the best customer support. They send out paypal prizes WEEKLY.

onair

14-12-2005 04:40:14

I will start sending out prizes as soon as possible, which is when my sponsors confirmed with me that all sign-ups have met their requirements.

Gigante

14-12-2005 07:05:34

[quote3de3598a95="onair"]I will start sending out prizes as soon as possible, which is when my sponsors confirmed with me that all sign-ups have met their requirements.[/quote3de3598a95]

If you got credit then what else are you waiting for? Credit isn't going to be revoked unless you are incenting a non-incentable campaign or you chose a really bad campaign like Jeunesse that is a scam, heh.

justinag06

14-12-2005 09:52:02

Come on guys don't be that hard headed. He wants to make sure he gets the cash in from his affiliates. Most new independant sites do this, and we accept it. Hell even fusioncash only pays out once per month i'm pretty sure.

onair

14-12-2005 16:23:42

I will do my best. That is all I can say about it )

Gigante

14-12-2005 16:36:15

[quote6d3754853e="onair"]I will do my best. That is all I can say about it )[/quote6d3754853e]

That works.

If he wants to claim he is the best, he needs to be the best. That is why people are so hard, heh.

onair

14-12-2005 20:07:49

I understand people are anxious to get their prizes. I promise I won't disappoint you guys. )

onair

15-12-2005 02:30:42

BTW, that iPod Video Pic is fixed.