Possible fraud?? What should I do?

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=27988

bspence

06-12-2005 13:42:14

So I my ipod nano is one its way from freepay. So I put it on ebay with a buy-it-now price of $315 US and a starting bid of $0.01. And someone bought it now and was from Turkey so they paid $55 US shipping and I didnt even tell them what the shipping would be!! Better yet, they sent my an paypal instant payment!! It worked out to $405 CND. I couldnt beleive it. So searched on ebay for the new ipod video and got one for $360 CND (shipping included). Gotta love that!! Its express shipping to so I should get it the same time I get my nano which I still have to ship out!

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doylnea

06-12-2005 13:45:18

[quote7e089e2a6a="bspence"]This is hilarious!! What an idiot![/quote7e089e2a6a]

Umm no,. What's going to be hilarious is when you get a chargeback or Item Not Received paypal dispute, and this guys takes all of your money.

I would highly recommend refunding the money, relisting the Ipod and not shipping outside of Canada and the US.

hehehhehe

06-12-2005 13:45:24

I bet you'll end up being the idiot in this case...

bspence

06-12-2005 13:48:06

[quote6ca5648dd5="doylnea"][quote6ca5648dd5="bspence"]This is hilarious!! What an idiot![/quote6ca5648dd5]

Umm no,. What's going to be hilarious is when you get a chargeback or Item Not Received paypal dispute, and this guys takes all of your money.

I would highly recommend refunding the money, relisting the Ipod and not shipping outside of Canada and the US.[/quote6ca5648dd5]

He has 100% Positive feedback. Im going to ship it to his address. How is he going to dispute this? I am a valued member and have good feedback as well. I think its legit.

doylnea

06-12-2005 13:51:14

[quotef38dfd8580="bspence"][quotef38dfd8580="doylnea"][quotef38dfd8580="bspence"]This is hilarious!! What an idiot![/quotef38dfd8580]

Umm no,. What's going to be hilarious is when you get a chargeback or Item Not Received paypal dispute, and this guys takes all of your money.

I would highly recommend refunding the money, relisting the Ipod and not shipping outside of Canada and the US.[/quotef38dfd8580]

He has 100% Positive feedback. Im going to ship it to his address. How is he going to dispute this? I am a valued member and have good feedback as well. I think its legit.[/quotef38dfd8580]

It could be any number of things, including a stolen account. Look at what else he's bought in the past couple of weeks.
[code1f38dfd8580]1 - 3 of 3 total. Click on the column headers to sort

Item Start End Price Title High Bidder Seller
6827133681 Nov-30-05 Dec-04-05 17:07:00 US $379.99 Brand NEW Creative X-Fi Elite Pro !!! viggie505 (li) b4rc0d3
5838505715 Dec-04-05 Dec-05-05 16:53:51 US $289.99 Apple iPod NANO 4GB white liBrand Newli liFactory Sealedli viggie505 (li) pb_75
5839030290 Dec-05-05 Dec-06-05 02:00:12 US $315.00 Black 4gb gig Ipod Nano. - FREE SHIPPING! - viggie505 (li) cpn_king
[/code1f38dfd8580]

bspence

06-12-2005 13:55:58

[quote63529e18ce="doylnea"][quote63529e18ce="bspence"][quote63529e18ce="doylnea"][quote63529e18ce="bspence"]This is hilarious!! What an idiot![/quote63529e18ce]

Umm no,. What's going to be hilarious is when you get a chargeback or Item Not Received paypal dispute, and this guys takes all of your money.

I would highly recommend refunding the money, relisting the Ipod and not shipping outside of Canada and the US.[/quote63529e18ce]

He has 100% Positive feedback. Im going to ship it to his address. How is he going to dispute this? I am a valued member and have good feedback as well. I think its legit.[/quote63529e18ce]

It could be any number of things, including a stolen account. Look at what else he's bought in the past couple of weeks.
[code163529e18ce]1 - 3 of 3 total. Click on the column headers to sort

Item Start End Price Title High Bidder Seller
6827133681 Nov-30-05 Dec-04-05 17:07:00 US $379.99 Brand NEW Creative X-Fi Elite Pro !!! viggie505 (li) b4rc0d3
5838505715 Dec-04-05 Dec-05-05 16:53:51 US $289.99 Apple iPod NANO 4GB white liBrand Newli liFactory Sealedli viggie505 (li) pb_75
5839030290 Dec-05-05 Dec-06-05 02:00:12 US $315.00 Black 4gb gig Ipod Nano. - FREE SHIPPING! - viggie505 (li) cpn_king
[/code163529e18ce][/quote63529e18ce]

oh never though of that. what should I do? Like I said, I already bought the ipod video with the nano money.

EatChex89

06-12-2005 14:01:30

ahahaha

a scammer bought that. you can tell by the way he typed that message.

bullseye4u

06-12-2005 14:01:48

I think its a stolen account

http//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64355&item=5835118727[]http//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=64355&item=5835118727

and it says

Item location Statesboro, GA

and then he bought this

http//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36276&item=7187290395[]http//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=36276&item=7187290395

it says free local delivery pick up but you receieved a payment he is in turkey.....

and 3rd of all he changed his id recently


viggie505 Dec-04-05 Present
viggie55 Feb-10-02 Dec-04-05




i dont quite understand this ?

Tholek

06-12-2005 14:02:05

He's got an unconfirmed address, that's enough for me.

bullseye4u

06-12-2005 14:07:40

[quote71ee0f9ce6="bspence"][quote71ee0f9ce6="doylnea"][quote71ee0f9ce6="bspence"][quote71ee0f9ce6="doylnea"][quote71ee0f9ce6="bspence"]This is hilarious!! What an idiot![/quote71ee0f9ce6]

Umm no,. What's going to be hilarious is when you get a chargeback or Item Not Received paypal dispute, and this guys takes all of your money.

I would highly recommend refunding the money, relisting the Ipod and not shipping outside of Canada and the US.[/quote71ee0f9ce6]

He has 100% Positive feedback. Im going to ship it to his address. How is he going to dispute this? I am a valued member and have good feedback as well. I think its legit.[/quote71ee0f9ce6]

It could be any number of things, including a stolen account. Look at what else he's bought in the past couple of weeks.
[code171ee0f9ce6]1 - 3 of 3 total. Click on the column headers to sort

Item Start End Price Title High Bidder Seller
6827133681 Nov-30-05 Dec-04-05 17:07:00 US $379.99 Brand NEW Creative X-Fi Elite Pro !!! viggie505 (li) b4rc0d3
5838505715 Dec-04-05 Dec-05-05 16:53:51 US $289.99 Apple iPod NANO 4GB white liBrand Newli liFactory Sealedli viggie505 (li) pb_75
5839030290 Dec-05-05 Dec-06-05 02:00:12 US $315.00 Black 4gb gig Ipod Nano. - FREE SHIPPING! - viggie505 (li) cpn_king
[/code171ee0f9ce6][/quote71ee0f9ce6]

oh never though of that. what should I do? Like I said, I already bought the ipod video with the nano money.[/quote71ee0f9ce6]

my advice not to send the item just yet just wait a little longer but what i heared if you spend the money and somebody want to claim there money and you have 0 dollars in your paypal account - paypal cant get the money from your debit or credit card without your permision

Stroid

06-12-2005 14:07:59

i got friends in Statesboro thats were Georgia Southern University is

bspence

06-12-2005 14:09:08

yeah, I guess I'll do that. I'll get ebay to look into his account. Cause I dont trust it.

tracemhunter

06-12-2005 14:09:51

unconfirmed address is enough. refund his money and report a possible stolen identity.

bspence

06-12-2005 14:14:32

[quote352f16d993="tracemhunter"]unconfirmed address is enough. refund his money and report a possible stolen identity.[/quote352f16d993]

thats the problem. i cant refund his money. i already spent it.

Stroid

06-12-2005 14:19:00

get your parents to bail you and give you money to cover the cost of the ipod and then get that shit resolved with ebay relist and pay your parents back

tylerc

06-12-2005 14:20:23

Yeah, here's a hint

If it's from around Europe or Africa, it's probably fraud.

bspence

06-12-2005 14:23:55

[quote59587a18ed="tylerc"]Yeah, here's a hint

If it's from around Europe or Africa, it's probably fraud.[/quote59587a18ed]

thats what I thought. I thought it was going to be one of those Nigeria bastards.

hehehhehe

06-12-2005 14:25:26

Why don't you try contacting those other two sellers and see what they did? If all three of you complain to ebay/paypal, this part of your problem may be resolved more quickly.

Stroid

06-12-2005 14:25:43

i put hella restrictions on my auctions and i wont sell outside the US

bspence

06-12-2005 14:29:50

not even Canada? I hate it when people dont tell to Canada lol.
I contacted ebay and I'll see what Im going to do. Its a loss for whose ever account that got stolen it is, but its not that big of a loss for me. But Im still going to resolve it.

JUNIOR6886

06-12-2005 14:33:25

Ebay is expensive to List with has terrible customer service who answer their customers calls with "how did you get this number" (not making this up) and is teeming with scammers yet I wouldnt sell my products online in any other place shrug dance2

cyberpunk243

06-12-2005 14:51:27

haha. I like how the subject of this thread changed from what it was earlier.

bspence

06-12-2005 14:54:57

[quote5dc77dda3c="cyberpunk243"]haha. I like how the subject of this thread changed from what it was earlier.[/quote5dc77dda3c]

lol. its cause i never thought of it being fraudulant. and now that i realized that it could very well be, I thought the title would attract more people. And I didnt want to look like the idiot haha.

JUNIOR6886

06-12-2005 15:05:19

From having a free ipod nano to your hands to owing $300+
because you spent a scammers money on an ipod. I would LOVE to see you try to explain this to your parents lol

bspence

06-12-2005 15:12:03

[quote6b6dd7e205="JUNIOR6886"]From having a free ipod nano to your hands to owing $300+
because you spent a scamers money on an ipod. I would LOVE to see you try to explain this to your parents lol[/quote6b6dd7e205]

yeah, that would be a bad idea. my parents HATE ebay.

bullseye4u

06-12-2005 15:13:08

listen to me just dont send the ipon just take your time you know what i mean

bspence

06-12-2005 15:18:19

yup. thats excactly what im going to do.

kdollar

06-12-2005 16:04:29

talk about opposite emotions real quick lol, yeahhhhhhh to shit!

Daggoth

06-12-2005 16:05:26

What did you spend oover $300 on so quickly? You shouldn't get a credit card...

bspence

06-12-2005 16:13:12

if u read earlier. i said that i bought the ipod video.

Stroid

06-12-2005 16:20:06

a dude just sent me a message on ebay for my iBook

[quote117ff073f8]Dear Seller,

I am very intrested in your item. I need right away because it will be a
gift. Please email me the final price including shipping to Spain via
FedEx 2 Days Express. I will deal only with an escrow company.
The escrow company is a service that protects both buyer and seller against
fraud. I will pay the shipping and escrow fees. If we agree on the price,
we can start the escrow process today and you can have the money in maximum
7 days.

Thanks and please get back to me as soon as possible,
Antonio[/quote117ff073f8]
lol i replied back i will only deal with paypal and ship US and you must win the auction to many scammers out there

Stroid

06-12-2005 16:37:33

i may report this douchebag for trying to scam me

theysayjump

06-12-2005 16:47:36

Yeah you should. The only way that anything will be done about them is if people continue to report them. They will come back but it's better than sitting there and doing nothing at all.

How much is your auction up to?

Stroid

06-12-2005 16:52:17

its at $152.50 and i listed it yesterday for 7days and i already reported his ass

mr0x

06-12-2005 16:58:05

[quote11a66eded1="Tholek"]He's got an unconfirmed address, that's enough for me.[/quote11a66eded1]

Addresses can only be confirmed in the US, UK and Canada I think.

Tholek

06-12-2005 17:03:06

Well, I rarely deal with any other country. (except for Germany)

mr0x

06-12-2005 17:05:35

[quote9269fd5f9f="JUNIOR6886"]Ebay is expensive to List with has terrible customer service who answer their customers calls with "how did you get this number" (not making this up) and is teeming with scammers yet I wouldnt sell my products online in any other place shrug dance2[/quote9269fd5f9f]

Google is going to enter the online auction market soon.

Ebay is badly in need of some competition.

Tholek

06-12-2005 17:21:53

Yeah, ebay hasn't had any incentive to improve customer service in....God knows how long.

ubid was a joke, let's hope Google isn't.

doylnea

06-12-2005 17:24:27

[quotec7da69d289="mr0x"][quotec7da69d289="JUNIOR6886"]Ebay is expensive to List with has terrible customer service who answer their customers calls with "how did you get this number" (not making this up) and is teeming with scammers yet I wouldnt sell my products online in any other place shrug dance2[/quotec7da69d289]

Google is going to enter the online auction market soon.

Ebay is badly in need of some competition.[/quotec7da69d289]

base.google.com is already (beta) live. However, to date, the site hasn't morphed into the eBay killer everyone is claiming it will be.

LucaBella

06-12-2005 18:16:53

You need to pay attention to people asking you to undervalue items. Not only is it illegal, but if you ship something legitimately to someone and the item is lost, you will only get back whatever paltry amount you insured it for, not its actual cost.

This guy in cananda begged me to put the laptop i shipped him down as 500 bux when he paid 1075. I did so, and he claimed he got an empty box. Long story short, he got 1000 bux back, and I have a paypal account with -1075, and no laptop.

Waiting on the post office to mail me 500 dollars..... like that's even going to help....

EatChex89

06-12-2005 18:20:53

google base sucks.

first google product that has sucked

tylerc

06-12-2005 18:27:28

[quote5f532a2db0="LucaBella"]You need to pay attention to people asking you to undervalue items. Not only is it illegal, but if you ship something legitimately to someone and the item is lost, you will only get back whatever paltry amount you insured it for, not its actual cost.

This guy in cananda begged me to put the laptop i shipped him down as 500 bux when he paid 1075. I did so, and he claimed he got an empty box. Long story short, he got 1000 bux back, and I have a paypal account with -1075, and no laptop.

Waiting on the post office to mail me 500 dollars..... like that's even going to help....[/quote5f532a2db0]

That's your own fault.

EatChex89

06-12-2005 18:29:26

[quote8b0a2de330="tylerc"][quote8b0a2de330="LucaBella"]You need to pay attention to people asking you to undervalue items. Not only is it illegal, but if you ship something legitimately to someone and the item is lost, you will only get back whatever paltry amount you insured it for, not its actual cost.

This guy in cananda begged me to put the laptop i shipped him down as 500 bux when he paid 1075. I did so, and he claimed he got an empty box. Long story short, he got 1000 bux back, and I have a paypal account with -1075, and no laptop.

Waiting on the post office to mail me 500 dollars..... like that's even going to help....[/quote8b0a2de330]

That's your own fault.[/quote8b0a2de330]

i think you should have had signature confirmation and/or delivery confirmatio

bspence

06-12-2005 21:18:56

i have a feeling ebay isnt even going to contact me back.

bspence

07-12-2005 14:22:11

I got an email from paypal.

[quotea4064a21e5]Dear Brad Spence,


Recently, PayPal received a notification from a user regarding unauthorized access to his PayPal account. As a result, one of the payments credited to your PayPal account has been placed in a temporary hold while we investigate the claim. PayPal constantly monitors transactions for unauthorized use of accounts in order to maintain the safety of our users.

If this unauthorized access was a result of spoof or fraud, PayPal will cover the cost of the transaction. The details of this transaction are as follows


Transaction Date Dec. 6, 2005
Transaction Amount $370.00 USD
Buyer's Email [edited]@hotmail.com


If you have already shipped goods related to this transaction, you may be covered under PayPal's Seller Protection Policy. Please provide PayPal with the following information

1) Tracking Number of Shipment
2) Shipping Company Used
3) Shipping Insurance Information (if used)

If you have provided a refund to the buyer, please provide PayPal with the following information

1) Date of Refund
2) Amount of Refund

For you to be protected by our Seller Protection Policy, you must reply to this email. We need to receive all correspondence regarding this case within 7 days. If you have any questions, please reply to this email.

Good selling practices, like trackable shipping, prompt shipment, and communication between buyer and seller help prevent disputes. We look forward to your reply.

Sincerely,
PayPal



PayPal Email ID PP---[/quotea4064a21e5]

JUNIOR6886

07-12-2005 14:32:28

how can they put funs on hold you already spent? confused2

bspence

07-12-2005 14:55:06

Im -$370 in my paypal account now.

haha its a good thing this buyer was fradulant too cause freepay accidently didnt put a nano in the parcel and I wouldnt have been able to send it. Now thats called lucky!!

LucaBella

07-12-2005 15:17:26

[quotec2bac2276f="tylerc"][quotec2bac2276f="LucaBella"]You need to pay attention to people asking you to undervalue items. Not only is it illegal, but if you ship something legitimately to someone and the item is lost, you will only get back whatever paltry amount you insured it for, not its actual cost.

This guy in cananda begged me to put the laptop i shipped him down as 500 bux when he paid 1075. I did so, and he claimed he got an empty box. Long story short, he got 1000 bux back, and I have a paypal account with -1075, and no laptop.

Waiting on the post office to mail me 500 dollars..... like that's even going to help....[/quotec2bac2276f]

That's your own fault.[/quotec2bac2276f]

Paging captain obvious... oh wait.. there you are....

LucaBella

07-12-2005 15:18:36

[quotef3563246cc="EatChex89"][quotef3563246cc="tylerc"][quotef3563246cc="LucaBella"]You need to pay attention to people asking you to undervalue items. Not only is it illegal, but if you ship something legitimately to someone and the item is lost, you will only get back whatever paltry amount you insured it for, not its actual cost.

This guy in cananda begged me to put the laptop i shipped him down as 500 bux when he paid 1075. I did so, and he claimed he got an empty box. Long story short, he got 1000 bux back, and I have a paypal account with -1075, and no laptop.

Waiting on the post office to mail me 500 dollars..... like that's even going to help....[/quotef3563246cc]

That's your own fault.[/quotef3563246cc]

i think you should have had signature confirmation and/or delivery confirmatio[/quotef3563246cc]

I did. He said he got an empty BOX. that is, he accepted the box, so the mail got there. Hardly matters tho...