goofygarber
Admin
20-11-2005 23:01:08
Re the latter 2/3 of http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=26799
What'll it be, guys? Feel free to use this thread to discuss. Flaming is not allowed.
justinag06
20-11-2005 23:08:29
Lets see...i've seen a lot of people get banned in my day. I've never argued, thought long, or looked back on any of them. Based on what i've seen I gotta vote yes here.
also what was goofy contributing exactly? He posts a lot but quantity doesn't necessarily = quality.
And anyone with the karma sigs is immediately on my [i927fa180a5]actual[/i927fa180a5] karma shortlist, much less the person who invented it.
Guy never did anything else to make me mad though, so I don't really care.
Gigante
20-11-2005 23:13:37
His posts already detract from the appeal of the forum. And his actions were out of line. perm ban vote here.
damac
20-11-2005 23:16:18
permaban, i don't care what his trade record was or what he has contributed before. he is a psycho that deserves nothing since he messed with your business like that.
people need to ask themselves if it would be "ok" if they were in the admins shoes.
i would never trade with such a snake either, you can't trust somebody with that type of attitude.
hairyferry
20-11-2005 23:18:51
don't know him, I don't think I've ever talked to him, but if I were the admin I'd be pissed! I vote yes!
I vote no, I'm in TR with the guy and he owes me $30.. you permban him, I'm the one who feels the impact in the end.. Let me get my $30 at least cry
doylnea
20-11-2005 23:33:44
[quote7fd5e82b25="h3x"]I vote no, I'm in TR with the guy and he owes me $30.. you permban him, I'm the one who feels the impact in the end.. Let me get my $30 at least cry[/quote7fd5e82b25]He was quoted in the other monstrosity of a thread as saying he'd pay back anyone who he was dealing with. And I think most of his real personal info in in the whois for his website(s)).
[i7fd5e82b25]edit oops, I guess I was wrong about his whois info.[/i7fd5e82b25]
hairyferry
20-11-2005 23:38:03
that is true, I've been in a trade with a guy who's been banned, it's not fun. I'd hate to be goofey right now knowing his ban is on the way and being able to read this.
i dont have any of his info.. if he gets banned, i dont know how to reach him..
his AIM link in his profile is a fake, btw.
JOSHBOX
20-11-2005 23:53:21
one more chance. I liked him for the most part.
Yeah, he was an decent guy.. I'm a little surprised he did that shit.. But I'd say give him one last chance.. Any fuck-up after that (even the most MINOR), then you can permban..
If somebody slaps you, turn the other cheek.. But don't let him keep slapping you after that.
bballp6699
21-11-2005 00:05:53
I don't really think it makes a bit of difference. If the guy is capable of doing what he did then he's perfectly capable of getting around a ban. What's the point in banning a guy and then dealing with his clone anyways...?
Ban him, Hex make him pay you anyway or file a paypal dispute
nicd.01
21-11-2005 00:47:18
I'm voting to ban for the simple reason that a lot of others have been dispatched of for doing far less. I really hope he pays everyone back, though.
EBPIsMaR
21-11-2005 00:55:48
he pwn you man take it like a man... its all chill at end of the day i mean we all die anyway
Archon810
21-11-2005 00:59:18
dont vote him out w/o hearing all the facts. i'm also involved in a trade.
all he did was take away his title that was given to him by somebody else and which was stupid. he then notified the admin about the hole in phpbb. if you ban him, it'll be unjust.
theysayjump
21-11-2005 01:51:23
Actually "all" he did was run some kind of script, stole a Mods password and changed his rank in the Admin index, but then I guess you would rather he "hacked" into your site instead of telling you huh?
Unjust would be banning him for [uf9f4ce3f1c][if9f4ce3f1c][bf9f4ce3f1c]telling[/bf9f4ce3f1c][/if9f4ce3f1c][/uf9f4ce3f1c] the Admin about it instead of doing what he did.
Is it just me, or are the only people who are defending him the people who are trading with him?
nicd.01
21-11-2005 02:08:06
[quote415d625c9f="EBPIsMaR"]he pwn you man take it like a man... its all chill at end of the day i mean we all die anyway[/quote415d625c9f]
Are you high? D
hairyferry
21-11-2005 02:09:24
I agree with the Haggis Eater.... lol, love ya Jump
EBPIsMaR
21-11-2005 02:38:56
[quote0783b2eaf0="nicd.01"][quote0783b2eaf0="EBPIsMaR"]he pwn you man take it like a man... its all chill at end of the day i mean we all die anyway[/quote0783b2eaf0]
Are you high? D[/quote0783b2eaf0]
NOP
[quote49db8779c5="nicd.01"][quote49db8779c5="EBPIsMaR"]he pwn you man take it like a man... its all chill at end of the day i mean we all die anyway[/quote49db8779c5]
Are you high? D[/quote49db8779c5]
I am P
phorty
21-11-2005 04:19:44
comming from an Admin at another site i'd have to say i would definately be upset about this whole matter. its some potentially dangerous waters that he was treading when he considered that to be a good idea in the first place.
i dont know him , but i know of him , its sad to see a lot of old members being banned for whatever reasons.
it really was just a bad decision on his part , i mean, it sucks .
It true that[ba6ff8f7cbf] if[/ba6ff8f7cbf] he [ba6ff8f7cbf]had[/ba6ff8f7cbf] malicious intent he couldve done a whole lot worse , yet the simple fact that he was able to exploit the system construes him as one who could be a logical [ba6ff8f7cbf]threat [/ba6ff8f7cbf]in the future.
he seems like a cool guy , and the offense was pretty stupid , even if he would have succeeded but than again hes not on trial for wanting small yellow ipods is he?
jagdwirem
21-11-2005 05:35:28
I think he [b90a80d55e6]did[/b90a80d55e6] contribute a lot to the forums conversations, but this one wrong decision could cost him...
shamash
21-11-2005 06:18:41
[quoted14cbe66f6="damac"]permaban, i don't care what his trade record was or what he has contributed before. he is a psycho that deserves nothing since he messed with your business like that.
people need to ask themselves if it would be "ok" if they were in the admins shoes.
i would never trade with such a snake either, you can't trust somebody with that type of attitude.[/quoted14cbe66f6]
You keep saying that he messed with Admin's business... how is this? Did Admin really lose anything, or did he gain?
shamash
21-11-2005 06:20:57
[quote30bd200394="theysayjump"]Actually "all" he did was run some kind of script, stole a Mods password and changed his rank in the Admin index, but then I guess you would rather he "hacked" into your site instead of telling you huh?
Unjust would be banning him for [u30bd200394][i30bd200394][b30bd200394]telling[/b30bd200394][/i30bd200394][/u30bd200394] the Admin about it instead of doing what he did.
Is it just me, or are the only people who are defending him the people who are trading with him?[/quote30bd200394]
I don't think he should be banned, and I'm not in a trade with him.
ragefu
21-11-2005 06:58:54
Yeah I'd say cut him a break on this one, he's probably learned his lesson
wood3
21-11-2005 07:18:31
There's no such thing as a perm ban...
wood3
21-11-2005 07:19:13
While the kid may be a tad bit...annoying, compared to his peers he's not all that bad.
And on another note would you have found out about the hole if he hadn't of come forward?
The answer is one in the same to this poll's.
JUNIOR6886
21-11-2005 07:23:38
is this who i think it is? roll
wood3
21-11-2005 07:26:48
[quote413256b4c1="JUNIOR6886"]is this who i think it is? roll[/quote413256b4c1]
i dont know how much more obvious i could be...
Even put my old fipg aim name in there to boot...
Give it a few minutes, I'll be "banned" again and a mod will confirm it for ya.
"roll"
Permanent Ban.
For all the reasons stated in the previous thread.
JUNIOR6886
21-11-2005 08:04:17
[quoted54c9602f2="wood3"][quoted54c9602f2="JUNIOR6886"]is this who i think it is? roll[/quoted54c9602f2]
i dont know how much more obvious i could be...
Even put my old fipg aim name in there to boot...
Give it a few minutes, I'll be "banned" again and a mod will confirm it for ya.
"roll"[/quoted54c9602f2]
How about paying me the 15$ you owe me. You said you have no money then i hear about you depositing money into a ponzi scheme....
man up and pay the money you owe. ?
wood3
21-11-2005 08:06:04
[quote7010a921a2="JUNIOR6886"][quote7010a921a2="wood3"][quote7010a921a2="JUNIOR6886"]is this who i think it is? roll[/quote7010a921a2]
i dont know how much more obvious i could be...
Even put my old fipg aim name in there to boot...
Give it a few minutes, I'll be "banned" again and a mod will confirm it for ya.
"roll"[/quote7010a921a2]
How about paying me the 15$ you owe me. You said you have no money then i hear about you depositing money into a ponzi scheme....
man up and pay the money you owe. ?[/quote7010a921a2]
You got your money. Don't play coy ;)
kevxross
21-11-2005 08:20:50
[quote633e57bb39="wood3"][quote633e57bb39="JUNIOR6886"]is this who i think it is? roll[/quote633e57bb39]
i dont know how much more obvious i could be...
Even put my old fipg aim name in there to boot...
Give it a few minutes, I'll be "banned" again and a mod will confirm it for ya.
"roll"[/quote633e57bb39]
[quote633e57bb39="kevxross on p. 2 of the Downtime thread"]It's a shame that if you ban him he's just gonna become one of those annoying shadow lurchers licoughliwoodlicoughli because he's too attached to this community. FIPG has become a part of his life and post count one of his highest goals.
He'll probably even start trying to scam people using new aliases just because he's got nothin to lose now..
Ah well, ban the fool.[/quote633e57bb39]
I rest my case. Wood, don't you think it's time to get over it? Let it go buddy, let it go.
wood3
21-11-2005 08:23:22
[quotef7641ffb39="kevxross"]
I rest my case. Wood, don't you think it's time to get over it? Let it go buddy, let it go.[/quotef7641ffb39]
Attached? I just had an opinion, and wanted to prove a simple point.
a)Goofy mighta done the wrong thing by using fuggers account to give himself a silly prop, but couldn't it have been much worse? And I get the feeling that this security hole would still be unpatched if Goofy hadn't alerted admin about it. That alone is the reason why I voted "no" to the perm ban
b) There is no such thing as a "permanent ban". Obviously Goofy is more computer illiterate then the majority of people here (as if that's saying much anyway), and I'm sure he can come back and do as he pleases under a new name that isn't being monitored 24/7. In short If you let him continue to use GG as his login, you can track his movements with ease and make sure no future violations are had.
Didnt realize posting under the obvious meant I was a shadow lurcher?
If I was worried about my post count, or how people viewed me, I doubt this would be my method of "communication".
phorty
21-11-2005 08:29:18
why the hell did YOU get banned anyhow?
wood3
21-11-2005 08:33:04
[quote06cdb488bc="phorty"]why the hell did YOU get banned anyhow?[/quote06cdb488bc]
I'd point you to the post in the "scammer" section, but that'd be a waste of time.
Basically, Jake put a bunch of my coworkers accounts on hold claiming they were me. I refused to pay people $30 for a green that was injustly stripped from me, for the people on this forum, and was shortly banned thereafter.
Funny thing is, I'm in good standing with most of the people who at one point were not supportive of me. I'd list them, but guilt by association might be the new norm.
Tholek
21-11-2005 08:33:35
Right now Admin is wondering if he can ban username ranges with wildcards. D
kevxross
21-11-2005 08:35:06
[quote5713707c04="wood3"][quote5713707c04="kevxross"]
I rest my case. Wood, don't you think it's time to get over it? Let it go buddy, let it go.[/quote5713707c04]
Attached? I just had an opinion, and wanted to prove a simple point.
a)Goofy mighta done the wrong thing by using fuggers account to give himself a silly prop, but couldn't it have been much worse? And I get the feeling that this security hole would still be unpatched if Goofy hadn't alerted admin about it. That alone is the reason why I voted "no" to the perm ban
b) There is no such thing as a "permanent ban". Obviously Goofy is more computer illiterate then the majority of people here (as if that's saying much anyway), and I'm sure he can come back and do as he pleases under a new name that isn't being monitored 24/7. In short If you let him continue to use GG as his login, you can track his movements with ease and make sure no future violations are had.
Didnt realize posting under the obvious meant I was a shadow lurcher?
If I was worried about my post count, or how people viewed me, I doubt this would be my method of "communication".[/quote5713707c04]
Yes, you're attached and yes, you're a shadow lurcher. You're too attached to this little forum to just move on with your life. You lurch in the shadows until you feel the need to open your mouth again. The post count bit was more about goofy, since that seems so incredibly important to him.
But yes, you're making the same point as me. It's a lose lose situation for the forum since there's no way to actually get rid of idiots.
wood3
21-11-2005 08:38:43
[quote770e738eb2="kevxross"]Yes, you're attached and yes, you're a shadow lurcher. You're too attached to this little forum to just move on with your life. You lurch in the shadows until you feel the need to open your mouth again. The post count bit was more about goofy, since that seems so incredibly important to him.
But yes, you're making the same point as me. It's a lose lose situation for the forum since there's no way to actually get rid of idiots.[/quote770e738eb2]
You got me pegged.
hkartadi
21-11-2005 08:39:10
[quote0988eaf4cb="theysayjump"]Actually "all" he did was run some kind of script, stole a Mods password and changed his rank in the Admin index, but then I guess you would rather he "hacked" into your site instead of telling you huh?
Unjust would be banning him for [u0988eaf4cb][i0988eaf4cb][b0988eaf4cb]telling[/b0988eaf4cb][/i0988eaf4cb][/u0988eaf4cb] the Admin about it instead of doing what he did.
Is it just me, or are the only people who are defending him the people who are trading with him?[/quote0988eaf4cb]
Voted no ban since I am trading with him... sorry
mpbollywoodking
21-11-2005 09:02:23
I have traded with him earlier, it was a smooth trade.
I don't agree with him hacking into the forum. I had a friend in college who hacked in to a e-mail account of a professeur, and HE GOT EXPELLED FROM COLLEGE. I'm not going to vote because it's all up to the moderator's decision and I don't see how the results from a poll can justify the punishment since some here may have beef with goofy and not voting on the crime, but they are voting on their personal experience
just thought i throw my two cents in there.
hkartadi
21-11-2005 09:05:12
I agree with Superman.
hrdfarkr
21-11-2005 09:18:15
I dunno, as a mod from another site, it's twitchy having someone in your forum who has run some lame ass kiddie script against you, at the same time he didn't do any damage except to change his title, and then he notified admin.
I say, temp ban, remove his TR and force him to forever be first in any transaction assuring he keeps things honest.
phorty
21-11-2005 09:38:50
[quote00c5b56dcd="hkartadi"]I agree with Superman.[/quote00c5b56dcd]
lol
BTW wood should be reinstated.
Brok3n_Sword
21-11-2005 09:47:48
Off with his head!
Admin
21-11-2005 10:03:47
[quote8fc1cd21a7="wood3"]And on another note would you have found out about the hole if he hadn't of come forward?
The answer is one in the same to this poll's.[/quote8fc1cd21a7]
Yes. Usually I check phpbb.com for updates pretty frequently but I'd been focusing elsewhere for a while so I forgot.
Wolfeman
21-11-2005 10:32:47
People keep saying he didn't do anything that bad, all he did was change his avatar. If he is dumb enough to run a script on here how did he know it wasn't a malicious script that would fuck the site and ruin the DB? Or once he exposed the flaw in the way that he did someone else wouldn't come and take the site down? I think its unexcusable to "hack" any site you'd like to stay a member of.
theysayjump
21-11-2005 11:27:07
Once again, Wolfeman hits the nail on the head.
johnjimjones
21-11-2005 13:49:32
I'm split on this. One side of me says basically agrees with wolfeman's statement and the other half wants me to say that he's a contributor of the forums as a trader. I want him to stay, but I can't get this hacking the forums cleared away.
ilanbg
21-11-2005 17:29:07
[quotef613eacf32="hrdfarkr"]I say, temp ban, remove his TR and force him to forever be first in any transaction assuring he keeps things honest.[/quotef613eacf32]
This definitely seems like a fair compromise.
johnjimjones
21-11-2005 17:41:19
[quote913373d62e="ilanbg"][quote913373d62e="hrdfarkr"]I say, temp ban, remove his TR and force him to forever be first in any transaction assuring he keeps things honest.[/quote913373d62e]
This definitely seems like a fair compromise.[/quote913373d62e]
Well, I don't see the point of taking his TR away when his trading has been good if not great. Sure, I believe its a good punishment for breaking and entering.
Gigante
21-11-2005 17:49:56
Why would you want to harm your "home"? People just don't do that. If he wanted to be here, he should of that of that. If he knew of an exploit, I'm sure he could have told admin and admin would have believe him, heh.
slinky_
21-11-2005 18:20:05
Although I don't know him very well, I voted 'no'. The three-day temporary ban should be enough to warn him. If he tries doing a similar activity again, then it would be reason enough to ban him permanently.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 18:28:25
So, you will need a 51% vote to let him stay?
EatChex89
21-11-2005 18:31:42
i voteth no.
anyone miss me?
Daggoth
21-11-2005 18:34:21
You know whats weird, the %s add up to 99%, so we are missing 1%, was their a 3rd choice?
agroman
21-11-2005 18:35:27
[quote6e8560eef2="Daggoth"]You know whats weird, the %s add up to 99%, so we are missing 1%, was their a 3rd choice?[/quote6e8560eef2]
Yes, and .1% users voted for it.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 18:37:06
really, what was the choice?
Gigante
21-11-2005 18:52:00
Well, the actual numbers right now with 68 votes is 58.9% yes, 41.1% no. They always round down, I don't know why.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 18:57:49
You know what sucks? People are voting without any information on what happened. I bet more than 50% of the people who voted think that he caused the downtime a few days ago. They think he actually hacked into this site without finding any loopholes.
[quotea559381666="Daggoth"]You know what sucks? People are voting without any information on what happened. I bet more than 50% of the people who voted think that he caused the downtime a few days ago. They think he actually hacked into this site without finding any loopholes.[/quotea559381666]
Hmmm....well the Admin did post the thread in his first made he made. He let everyone know what he was talking about...
Daggoth
21-11-2005 19:06:25
I don't really care if he posted, everyone who argued against me said that he caused the downtime. I assume that people who are voting assume the same thing.
[quote77f5835f52="Daggoth"]I don't really care if he posted, everyone who argued against me said that he caused the downtime. I assume that people who are voting assume the same thing.[/quote77f5835f52]
Meh...people can draw their own conclusions. D
Daggoth
21-11-2005 19:08:52
I was hoping other people might influence them to draw the right ones...
theysayjump
21-11-2005 19:26:34
[quote7983186952="Daggoth"]I was hoping other people might influence them to draw the right ones...[/quote7983186952]
In other words you want "people" to influence other people to lie, so that they agree with what you think is right, in turn swining the vote so that he stays?
Also, not everyone argued against you that goofy caused the downtime. I said from the start that he didn't. You could say that he indirectly caused it, since if he didn't do what he did, the Admin would not have shut the site down for about an hour.
For anyone coming into the game late; goofygarber ran some kind of script exploit on the site, steal a mods password and change his user rank.
Although no harm was done, the Admin decided to shut the site down so that he could take care of this situation, and update the system/forum to the newest version. About 1 hour later the site was back up.
Simple.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 19:31:01
[quote29f411765c="theysayjump"][quote29f411765c="Daggoth"]I was hoping other people might influence them to draw the right ones...[/quote29f411765c]
In other words you want "people" to influence other people to lie, so that they agree with what you think is right, in turn swining the vote so that he stays?
Also, not everyone argued against you that goofy caused the downtime. I said from the start that he didn't. You could say that he indirectly caused it, since if he didn't do what he did, the Admin would not have shut the site down for about an hour.
For anyone coming into the game late; goofygarber ran some kind of script exploit on the site, steal a mods password and change his user rank.
Although no harm was done, the Admin decided to shut the site down so that he could take care of this situation, and update the system/forum to the newest version. About 1 hour later the site was back up.
Simple.[/quote29f411765c]
lmao, lie? What people believe that Goofy caused downtime is a lie! That statement meant that people should be able to draw the conclusion that he did not cause downtime.
Yes, all was an exaggeration. Besides two or three people, everyone was upset at their 50 minutes of downtime.
He indirectly caused it? They needed to upgrade the forum anyway. So if he PM'd the Admin, he would have "indirectly" caused it, too.
ajrock2000
21-11-2005 19:37:28
Daggoth get it in your head that DOWNTIME IS NOT THE ISSUE. He EXPLOITED the site and STOLE a mods password. End of freaking story.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 19:40:04
Yes, I know and I understand that, but some of the people who are voting do not.
theysayjump
21-11-2005 19:40:33
I think it would be up to the Admin to decide whether or not the forum needed updated. Is it up to you to tell me to update to Windows SP2? Nope, I didn't think so.
If you want to be pendatic about it, then you argueing his case, wanting him to stay, winning the Yes vote, him staying and doing something like that again, then you would have indirectly caused that to happen also.
We can go round and round in circles if you like, but if the majority of people who have voted in this thread have not taken the time to look at what actually happened, then that's their fault. There's nothing we can do about that.
Even if the vote ends in a No, it is still the Admins decision, so nothing is final until then.
hehehhehe
21-11-2005 19:45:03
[quote36c15493de="Daggoth"]lmao, lie? What people believe that Goofy caused downtime is a lie! That statement meant that people should be able to draw the conclusion that he did not cause downtime.
Yes, all was an exaggeration. Besides two or three people, everyone was upset at their 50 minutes of downtime.
He indirectly caused it? They needed to upgrade the forum anyway. So if he PM'd the Admin, he would have "indirectly" caused it, too.[/quote36c15493de]
You're making every other post in this thread. Do you know him personally? If not, it's a bit weird to see someone defending this guy so much. This is a fucking internet forum, and I think it's unhealthy to feel so strongly one way or the other.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 19:49:23
Yes, but let me tell you an analogy.
If you leave your door open and go to vacation, do you expect not to be robbed?
Well, basically if Goofy basically was the robber and just stole something small, instead of taking the important things. Like I said before, what he did was wrong. Goofy quickly showed Admin that he left his door open and thus the Admin shut it.
The fact that people are voting without knowing what they are voting on seems illogical. Even though it is their fault, Goofy is paying the consequences. Its like going into court and being proved guilty because the jury had no idea what they were doing and gave a random vote.
Yes, it is true it is the Admin's decision, but I doubt this will happen but he could vote the other way.
Btw This is just practice debate for me. I have to practice anyway.
ilanbg
21-11-2005 19:51:59
[quote2c0867482b="hehehhehe"][quote2c0867482b="Daggoth"]lmao, lie? What people believe that Goofy caused downtime is a lie! That statement meant that people should be able to draw the conclusion that he did not cause downtime.
Yes, all was an exaggeration. Besides two or three people, everyone was upset at their 50 minutes of downtime.
He indirectly caused it? They needed to upgrade the forum anyway. So if he PM'd the Admin, he would have "indirectly" caused it, too.[/quote2c0867482b]
You're making every other post in this thread. Do you know him personally? If not, it's a bit weird to see someone defending this guy so much. This is a fucking internet forum, and I think it's unhealthy to feel so strongly one way or the other.[/quote2c0867482b]
It's not weird. Daggoth wants to make sure people don't go crazy with exaggeration, as is what happened before he started strongly posting.
I'd probably be arguing with similar zeal of Daggoth wasn't doing it well enough.
For now, all we can really do is let the Admin decide.
theysayjump
21-11-2005 19:52:44
[quotebe19fad67b="ilanbg"]For now, all we can really do is let the Admin decide.[/quotebe19fad67b]
You mean no stick fighting? cry
[quote6f99c11e24="theysayjump"][quote6f99c11e24="ilanbg"]For now, all we can really do is let the Admin decide.[/quote6f99c11e24]
You mean no stick fighting? cry[/quote6f99c11e24]
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Wolfeman
21-11-2005 19:54:46
This thread was made so the Admin can hear our opinions. It seems like the majority of people think he was wrong.
BTW why was theclownoftightness banned?
Daggoth
21-11-2005 19:57:34
Well, as you have heard previously, people are making decisions on false information.
Wow! Clown was banned? Thats unbelievable. Can't say I didn't expect it, he takes forever on some of his trades with newbs.
Omg, he is, wow that sucks he was very nice and helpful to me when i was a newbie, he even gave me his aim and answersed all my questions. Thats pretty sad that he's gone,but hey shit happens. (
Daggoth
21-11-2005 20:03:57
Well, he is not gone yet. How long does the poll last?
[quotef496d21a5f="Daggoth"]Well, he is not gone yet. How long does the poll last?[/quotef496d21a5f]
What, clown isnt gone??
Wolfeman
21-11-2005 20:05:24
Not sure but I think 70 is a large enough sample size with that large a gap to say it isn't going to change...
Wolfeman
21-11-2005 20:06:14
[quoteb829263a69="jan"][quoteb829263a69="Daggoth"]Well, he is not gone yet. How long does the poll last?[/quoteb829263a69]
What, clown isnt gone??[/quoteb829263a69]
he is talking about goofy...
[quote508be5ca1c="Wolfeman"][quote508be5ca1c="jan"][quote508be5ca1c="Daggoth"]Well, he is not gone yet. How long does the poll last?[/quote508be5ca1c]
What, clown isnt gone??[/quote508be5ca1c]
he is talking about goofy...[/quote508be5ca1c]
Yea, I figured just wasnt quite sure.Yea I no goofy isnt gone, and when is this all going to be decided anyway.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 20:10:46
Well, the poll is only down 10 people and seeing as this forum gets like a million hits a day (exaggeration for those of you who do not know)...
shamash
21-11-2005 20:11:35
Its only an 11 person difference.
phorty
21-11-2005 20:14:50
+karma to shamash for being a good friend. lol
Admin
21-11-2005 20:15:10
[quotedacbb9b6f7="Daggoth"]
Well, basically if Goofy basically was the robber and just stole something small, instead of taking the important things. Like I said before, what he did was wrong. Goofy quickly showed Admin that he left his door open and thus the Admin shut it.
[/quotedacbb9b6f7]
I don't know where you're getting this info but goofy didn't "show" me anything. Want to know the whole conversation?
[quotedacbb9b6f7]
(221855) goofy thanks for making me moderator )
(221907) admin you're welcome?
(221912) goofy -D
(222015) admin hmm
(222018) admin who gave you the titles?
(222026) goofy ?
(222103) admin http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=26795
(222105) admin your titles there
(222111) admin who gave you them
(222113) goofy you?
(222116) admin nol
(222123) goofy nol?
(222129) admin lino
(222145) goofy I say I right fancy it
(222147) goofy but who?
(222231) goofy ? is this a bad joke (
(222253) admin i dont think its a good joke
(222314) goofy no comprende
(222426) admin someone guessed fugger's apss
(222511) goofy ?
(222516) goofy fuck my batterys dead brb
(222521) goofy gotta get the charge cable
(222533) goofy does this mean I r not teh mod?
(222551) admin no.
(222559) goofy (
(222608) goofy i don't think its very funny
(222617) goofy oh well
(222625) goofy i should probably be off
(222629) admin i didn't do it
(222632) goofy and getm y cable lol
(222642) goofy then who did it?
(222723) admin you
(222723) goofy and i cant figure out how to use the damn thing either
(222728) goofy =O
(222731) goofy /win
(222736) goofy tell fugger to change his pass
(222737) goofy its too easy
[/quotedacbb9b6f7]
As you can see, he was perfectly willing to play dumb. I had to check http logs and look up his IP to figure out that it was him.
Wolfeman
21-11-2005 20:16:01
When a national poll is taken they don't interview 200 million people. They ask like 2000 and there is a error of ±3%. I bet this is within ±5% which makes it enough.
I <3 Math...
That AIM conversation is too funny.
Wolfeman
21-11-2005 20:19:19
OMG after that convo I don't know why this is even a question. He totally played dumb and never admited anything. Ban him...
Daggoth
21-11-2005 20:20:08
To Admin Basically my analogy and a small flaw in it. It was meant to point out that he could have done worse damages, but he chose not to.
Wolfeman I bet your right, which you probably are. I just want to do my best to keep this argument going or else I have to find somewhere else to debate. roll
[quoted125231415="Wolfeman"]OMG after that convo I don't know why this is even a question. He totally played dumb and never admited anything. Ban him...[/quoted125231415]
Yea seriously!!
agroman
21-11-2005 20:23:37
You guys are wearing out perfectly good keyboards over this whole damn thing, I'm sure.
Meanwhile, some kids in Africa are still sharing an abacus...
Daggoth
21-11-2005 20:26:52
[quote21affbcc80="Daggoth"]To Admin Basically my analogy and a small flaw in it. It was meant to point out that he could have done worse damages, but he chose not to. [/quote21affbcc80]
Did you consider this?
theysayjump
21-11-2005 20:31:04
theclownoftightness was banned after Trainn-Alan informed me that he has been making multiple (hundreds of thousands) accounts on their sites, using the loophole that was allowing other members of your household to sign up for sites. They did away with that rule but he continued making accounts at various family, friends and neighbours houses.
The reason he kept stalling his traders because of a "Bank Transfer" was him stalling till he received payment from Trainn. You ever wonder why he was constantly trading for Trainn sites? Well that's why.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 20:33:33
Wow! How much money did he steal from Trainn? I imagine like at least a couple thousand.
Yea, and he got banned from all the freepay sites.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 20:38:50
He must be done with free sites for good now...
Yea, if he's been banned from all the freepay and trainn sites, i would think so unless he does OC sites or some other minor sites.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 20:42:35
Ya, but now that he is banned from FIG, they can detect his IP here. He has to start all over on A4F.
[quote938f6bb108="Daggoth"]Ya, but now that he is banned from FIG, they can detect his IP here. He has to start all over on A4F.[/quote938f6bb108]
Yea,you try to scam, you have to pay the price, thats what he gets.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 20:46:31
Its not like I wouldnt want to be in his shoes... Hes must of gotten soooo much money. Unless Trainn decides to prosecute him for fraud.
Yea, I dont think I would wanna be in his shoes either way, because yea he made a pretty penny scamming trainn for a little while, but once that money is gone he wont have no more sites to do so thats the end of his money tree.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 20:56:51
Well it seems like Goofy might get banned by 12 votes \. Sucks to lose a fellow member.
Yup, I just want to no why he would do somthing that dumb, like what was the point of it??Just to change his title, thats lame, but hey it was his descion and sadly, he will pay the worse price for it. (
theysayjump
21-11-2005 21:02:41
OK, back on topic ladies wink
Daggoth
21-11-2005 21:03:03
It acutally could have been worse. There are other trading/off-topic forums out there.
Yea, sorry, daggoth and I kinda drifted.LOL!! D
Daggoth
21-11-2005 21:05:04
[quote568b66b34e="theysayjump"]OK, back on topic ladies wink[/quote568b66b34e]
Just curious, but isn't this the off-topic forum?
theysayjump
21-11-2005 21:12:13
[quote67a90e6cc2="Daggoth"][quote67a90e6cc2="theysayjump"]OK, back on topic ladies wink[/quote67a90e6cc2]
Just curious, but isn't this the off-topic forum?[/quote67a90e6cc2]
No.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 21:27:54
[quote3bf46e6b65="theysayjump"][quote3bf46e6b65="Daggoth"][quote3bf46e6b65="theysayjump"]OK, back on topic ladies wink[/quote3bf46e6b65]
Just curious, but isn't this the off-topic forum?[/quote3bf46e6b65]
No.[/quote3bf46e6b65]
Huh? Could you please specify?
[quote6cbdd2ae82="Daggoth"][quote6cbdd2ae82="theysayjump"][quote6cbdd2ae82="Daggoth"][quote6cbdd2ae82="theysayjump"]OK, back on topic ladies wink[/quote6cbdd2ae82]
Just curious, but isn't this the off-topic forum?[/quote6cbdd2ae82]
No.[/quote6cbdd2ae82]
Huh? Could you please specify?[/quote6cbdd2ae82]
Yea, this is in the off topic section but, we where going kinda off the topic of the poll and goofygarber, thats what he means...I think, lol.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 21:31:10
So where is the Off-topic thread where we can post whatever we want?
Whatever- On Topic
How long is this poll going to last? How much of a majority is needed to Perm Ban him?
theysayjump
21-11-2005 21:41:44
It's the Off-Topic forum to discuss things other than the Freebie scene, not where people make threads and everyone has to talk about something completely different.
Also it's a poll, majority rules as far as I know.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 21:46:03
Ya, but its not like hes going to leave the poll up forever and its not like everyone is going to vote.
Besides, the name Off-Topic is misleading. I do understand what you mean, though.
Ight, since you guys finally got that settled lets get back to the, "Real Topic". lol> lol
theysayjump
21-11-2005 21:53:28
It will probably run until it's getting close to his temp-ban expiring, which should be tomorrow I think.
Daggoth
21-11-2005 22:00:59
Wow, I wish he gives it more time. I mean, its not even 10% majority anymore...
Yea, goofygarber is making a comeback in the polls!!!
Daggoth
21-11-2005 22:18:32
Maybe
He better hope his polls jump at least 10 overnight. I doubt it but maybeeee, never no.
Strike
21-11-2005 22:29:37
I'd say, let him explain himself and then we decide.
Yea, I second that request!!!
You should pm the admin and suggest that, great idea in my opinion. )
Daggoth
21-11-2005 22:36:29
Even though it is this close, I really doubt he will get unbanned. Whatever I hope for the best. I don't really see the point of not having an extra trader around.
Well, who wants an extra trouble maker around??
Even if he's not banned, I hope to see his stupidity level be taken down a few thousand knotches.
Yea, seriously, but I think what daggoth thinks, there is no way in hell he will be unbanned.
Admin
21-11-2005 22:48:47
[quoteba2ef865e2="jan"]Well, who wants an extra trouble maker around??[/quoteba2ef865e2]
^ the first intelligent rebuttal jan's ever made. i feel proud.
Thanks, lol, im learning!! D
theysayjump
21-11-2005 22:59:06
lol
slinky_
21-11-2005 23:00:19
[quoteb258695d6d="theysayjump"]lol[/quoteb258695d6d]
Random emoticon?
Allen626
22-11-2005 00:08:20
I have never been banned, but if you are as a noob you are given a second chance if you apologize? Or is it just a temp ban? If he has apologized and the first statement is true then let him comeback.
theysayjump
22-11-2005 00:21:19
People very rarely are given 2nd chances unless they show themselves to have changed or reformed from the way they were when they were initially banned.
Personally from a Mods point of view, apologies don't usually work, but then that's in regards to scammers usually.
Daggoth
22-11-2005 05:21:00
He never actually did anything wrong before to cause any trouble, this was his first time stupid mistake as far as I am concerned. I doubt he will come back and make a stupid mistake again. People learn from their mistakes.
Gigante
22-11-2005 06:47:38
When will this poll be closed? I think it already has enough votes.
BTW, from a statistical point of view, the poll is biased towards saying No to banning him because it is a voluntary sample and not a simple random sample. Even with the bias, he still lost.
dudeextrem2000
22-11-2005 15:19:13
....no opinion....
agroman
22-11-2005 15:31:17
<--- Still a "n00b".
Wolfeman
22-11-2005 16:26:15
I'm wondering too. It seems like Admin is torn over what to do. I will welcome back goofy with open arms if Admin decides that. I'm sure the poll was just to get a feeling of the boards but it doesn't seem like it was overwhelming...
shamash
23-11-2005 15:59:09
bump incase people missed it and still need to vote?
Daggoth
23-11-2005 16:58:10
6 Votes... Oh well, atleast he will be banned knowing he was pretty close.
J4320
23-11-2005 17:44:24
Keep him banned. I had 48 +karma before he joined. After he joined, a few weeks later, my karma was going down at a steady rate. It's now at 3. And it stopped when he was banned.
Now I'm not saying it was him, but...... And I'm also not saying that we should ban him because he -karma'd me all of the time, but.......
I never really liked him anyway.
Daggoth
23-11-2005 17:50:47
So you want to ban him because you didnt like him... I dont like some people on the forum...
agroman
23-11-2005 17:56:03
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J4320
23-11-2005 17:57:06
[quote2babe7d0cc="Daggoth"]So you want to ban him because you didnt like him... I dont like some people on the forum...[/quote2babe7d0cc]
No, I agreed to him being banned. And I said that I never liked him anyway. What he did was wrong.
J4320
23-11-2005 17:57:44
[quotef50418e015="agroman"]
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LOL!!!!!!
I like this guy. D
Averagejoe1039
23-11-2005 18:30:29
Edit
johnjimjones
23-11-2005 18:42:53
He's been my hero since he got me my last OOD referal on mp3players4free. And that's what I think matters a lot, a good trader, hard to come by.
Daggoth
23-11-2005 19:01:51
[quote49efa6384a="Averagejoe1039"]I say we ban him. He always made jokes, never really made serious points. Yeah, a little humor is great, but to much gets annoying. I say we don't reinstate hm as a member because he is just like any other member, newb or oldie. Newb's get banned for these reasons..[/quote49efa6384a]
If theysayjump did this, he would not get banned.
Anway, its close to 4 votes. Maybe we should keep the poll going for a few more days.
Iloveipods2
23-11-2005 19:10:23
keep him banned, there exists plenty of other users. one guy lost, big deal(not sounding harsh or anything). doing anything detrimental to the board is asking for a ban.
Daggoth
23-11-2005 19:14:07
[quote46be8e79f1="Iloveipods2"]keep him banned, there exists plenty of other users. one guy lost, big deal(not sounding harsh or anything). doing anything detrimental to the board is asking for a ban.[/quote46be8e79f1]
He didnt cause any damage for the last time! He was indirectly connected with it. Admin was going to upgrade anyway.
ilanbg
23-11-2005 19:36:54
This is a close as the 2004 elections.
Daggoth
23-11-2005 19:39:33
Ya, but its not like the votes matter. Admin will decide.
EBPIsMaR
23-11-2005 19:42:44
me and goofy are planning drive by if he looses
declaring a war or some shit
Iloveipods2
23-11-2005 19:49:20
[quoted8c95b121b="EBPIsMaR"]me and goofy are planning drive by if he looses
declaring a war or some shit[/quoted8c95b121b]
lol like start your own forum and declare a forum war? that'd be interrrrrrrresting lol
johnjimjones
23-11-2005 20:01:56
[quote599ec86fea="ilanbg"]This is a close as the 2004 elections.[/quote599ec86fea]
RECOUNT!!!!!
Wolfeman
23-11-2005 20:03:17
I wonder if a lot of new users are voting no. Like people that have never posted before...
phorty
23-11-2005 20:09:58
[quote3f7341294a="Wolfeman"]I wonder if a lot of new users are voting no. Like people that have never posted before...[/quote3f7341294a]
thats very possible. but than again when all is said and done the admin is going to decide , kinda like the electoral colleges.
Daggoth
23-11-2005 20:21:13
Last time I checked, didn't you need a min. amount of posts to vote in polls. I think I might have tried to vote when I joined. Whatever Phorty is right, regardless.
Wolfeman
23-11-2005 20:22:42
[quote55c09e74ea="Daggoth"]Last time I checked, didn't you need a min. amount of posts to vote in polls. I think I might have tried to vote when I joined. Whatever Phorty is right, regardless.[/quote55c09e74ea]
Unless someone is creating accounts to vote...
Daggoth
23-11-2005 20:23:43
If someone was, don't you think No would be winning already?
theysayjump
23-11-2005 20:35:40
Since you (Daggoth) brought my name up on the last page, I personally (although not being dumb enough to do what he did) would expect nothing less than a ban if I fucked with the Admins shit.
Just because I am a Mod, doesn't make me untouchable. You scam, you get banned. You flame, you get banned. So get out your seat and jump around, jump around.
It doesn't matter who is who, if you fuck up, you pay the consequences (CC40, wood, Collateral, Ryanish, theclownoftightness etc, etc.).
Also, usually there is a minimum post count needed before you can vote, for the exact reason to stop people who have no idea about the situation from voting and fucking it up.
Daggoth
23-11-2005 20:53:15
[quote3d09da0f24="theysayjump"]Since you (Daggoth) brought my name up on the last page, I personally (although not being dumb enough to do what he did) would expect nothing less than a ban if I fucked with the Admins shit.
Just because I am a Mod, doesn't make me untouchable. You scam, you get banned. You flame, you get banned. So get out your seat and jump around, jump around.
It doesn't matter who is who, if you fuck up, you pay the consequences (CC40, wood, Collateral, Ryanish, theclownoftightness etc, etc.).
Also, usually there is a minimum post count needed before you can vote, for the exact reason to stop people who have no idea about the situation from voting and fucking it up.[/quote3d09da0f24]
Neither of our cases can be brought up unless you commit the certain crime, which I hope you will not since you are good moderator. Like Admin say, "Talk is cheap."
EBPIsMaR
23-11-2005 21:04:22
[quote84455afb24="Iloveipods2"][quote84455afb24="EBPIsMaR"]me and goofy are planning drive by if he looses
declaring a war or some shit[/quote84455afb24]
lol like start your own forum and declare a forum war? that'd be interrrrrrrresting lol[/quote84455afb24]no im being literal...
Daggoth
23-11-2005 21:51:27
Three votes! shock
hairyferry
23-11-2005 21:59:40
[quote5b8cba959a="EBPIsMaR"][quote5b8cba959a="Iloveipods2"][quote5b8cba959a="EBPIsMaR"]me and goofy are planning drive by if he looses
declaring a war or some shit[/quote5b8cba959a]
lol like start your own forum and declare a forum war? that'd be interrrrrrrresting lol[/quote5b8cba959a]no im being literal...[/quote5b8cba959a]
lol, literal from a 0 TR and -14 Karma.... lol
Daggoth
23-11-2005 22:06:56
Im not sure what you mean by that post. I hope you know that EPisMar owns EarnbyPoints...
justinag06
23-11-2005 22:29:52
[quote6e4de59e3f="Daggoth"]Im not sure what you mean by that post. I hope you know that EPisMar owns EarnbyPoints...[/quote6e4de59e3f]
shock shock shock shock shock
ohhhhhhhhh
I hope[i6e4de59e3f] he [/i6e4de59e3f]knows he isn't acting very professional for a siteowner. I know I won't be doing a site with two unreolved issues in the scammer section, an owner joining in on forum flame wars with the professionalism of a 15 year old.
...... idea oh and he is attempting to piss off his entire userbase. Real smart
EBPIsMaR
23-11-2005 22:35:37
[quotea769bd7c77="hairyferry"][quotea769bd7c77="EBPIsMaR"][quotea769bd7c77="Iloveipods2"][quotea769bd7c77="EBPIsMaR"]me and goofy are planning drive by if he looses
declaring a war or some shit[/quotea769bd7c77]
lol like start your own forum and declare a forum war? that'd be interrrrrrrresting lol[/quotea769bd7c77]no im being literal...[/quotea769bd7c77]
lol, literal from a 0 TR and -14 Karma.... lol[/quotea769bd7c77]
u gon arrest me?
Iloveipods2
23-11-2005 22:50:03
true for a site owner he is a very puerile person.
EBPIsMaR
23-11-2005 22:56:09
[quote04f71789aa="Iloveipods2"]true for a site owner he is a very puerile person.[/quote04f71789aa]i maintain...
agroman
23-11-2005 23:12:25
[quoteb4a6638518="EBPIsMaR"][quoteb4a6638518="Iloveipods2"]true for a site owner he is a very puerile person.[/quoteb4a6638518]i maintain...[/quoteb4a6638518]
hahaha. "he be keepin it reeel, y0!"
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EBPIsMaR
23-11-2005 23:27:52
[quote26bdaef55a="agroman"][quote26bdaef55a="EBPIsMaR"][quote26bdaef55a="Iloveipods2"]true for a site owner he is a very puerile person.[/quote26bdaef55a]i maintain...[/quote26bdaef55a]
hahaha. "he be keepin it reeel, y0!"
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phorty
24-11-2005 13:49:34
whats going on with the whole goofy situation , i heard he stealing paypal pw's now?
mpbollywoodking
24-11-2005 13:50:43
YA, WHAT IS HAPPENING??
should i be worried?
Cash4Cookies
24-11-2005 14:15:01
be afraid, be very afraid... um can someone tell me whats going on?
phorty
24-11-2005 14:26:46
goofygarber has his finger on the button.. ya know...[bef0047014c]THE BUTTON[/bef0047014c]
I'm not sure what's going on, but the forum, as well as it's members, have been doing just fine.
Iloveipods2
24-11-2005 14:42:21
seriously, there shouldn't even be a poll. ban him. It isn't funny anymore
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 14:42:45
ban him.. forever..
J4320
24-11-2005 14:45:38
Agreed.
Averagejoe1039
24-11-2005 14:51:08
EDIT
mpbollywoodking
24-11-2005 15:09:54
where?
Averagejoe1039
24-11-2005 15:29:11
Wait a second.. Goofy just imed me as well as many others. He is not a paypal scammer. He was just coding the ebp site. Shamash supposedly didn't get his money so he is starting awful rumors about this whole thing. The paypal thing is NOT real, Goofy is NOT a HACKER, and someone is lying in this loop.
phorty
24-11-2005 15:30:59
voting and lying in the same convo?
Surely this has to be some type of mistake! )
J4320
24-11-2005 15:33:15
Oh... Yet another twist....
phorty
24-11-2005 15:40:09
this is officially my favorite soap opera, with the amazing pilot of goofy "hacking" into FIPG
& now the season finale cliff hanger that goofy wasn't responsible for stealing accounts and that the one who petitoned for him was lying..whewlishock
wonder what they have planned for season 2? 8)
Averagejoe1039
24-11-2005 15:41:15
Shamash was tying to pretend to do offers at EBP that he never did. Everyone from EBP agreed with this statement.
phorty
24-11-2005 15:42:39
[quote7ce7183c59="Averagejoe1039"]Shamash was tying to pretend to do offers at EBP that he never did. Everyone from EBP agreed with this statement.[/quote7ce7183c59]
i say we have another vote. lol
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 15:45:19
man goofy and fipg hacking have nothing in connection with my site... this was done a week ago when goofy just got access to my servers yesterday.. Shamash is just mad cause i wont give credit to him for offers he never did...
phorty
24-11-2005 16:01:44
As far as im concerned this is all over dramatized bullshit.
Some kid is demanding money for something he didnt do or complete for that matter and of course the easy scapegoat being goofy is getting strung up for crucifixtion.
Its as simple as that , but damn , isnt it funny how easily mass hysteria can spread?
Kudos to the admin for waiting until all info was gathered to make an official statement.
But lets all consider this , yes-goofy may have been invovled with a small yellow ipod scandal ..but that should in no way reflect on the site [b042d95f270]epb[/b042d95f270] . Simple as that.
phorty
24-11-2005 16:02:19
As far as im concerned this is all over dramatized bullshit.
Some kid is demanding money for something he didnt do or complete for that matter and of course the easy scapegoat being goofy is getting strung up for crucifixtion.
Its as simple as that , but damn , isnt it funny how easily mass hysteria can spread?
Kudos to the admin for waiting until all info was gathered to make an official statement.
But lets all consider this , yes-goofy may have been invovled with a small yellow ipod scandal ..but that should in no way reflect on the site [be9a352a86c]epb[/be9a352a86c] . Simple as that.
Admin
24-11-2005 16:10:41
i'm not sure about that, but goofy is going to remain permabanned.
theysayjump
24-11-2005 16:13:54
[quote16759ff02c="Admin"]i'm not sure about that, but goofy is going to remain permabanned.[/quote16759ff02c]
Looks like the majority does rule.
shamash
24-11-2005 16:24:34
EBP is full of shit. Goofy actually helped me through doing an offer that didn't credit again, and I've done 5 offers on EBP.
Goofy admit to me where he got Fugger's password from, and showed it to me. I showed the site to Admin.
I can tell you fugger's pass too, if you want, to prove it, Admin.
Averagejoe1039
24-11-2005 16:29:14
Phorty will be making a statement shortly involving this issue.
shamash
24-11-2005 16:32:28
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Your Commission Earned Year to Date $10,334.90
taylor wilsdon -)
taylor wilsdon lol but you can't tell him shit[/quotef6608cb4d8]
[quotef6608cb4d8]taylor wilsdon http//www.earnbypoints.com/admin/admin_main.php
taylor wilsdon but don't do ANYTHING[/quotef6608cb4d8]
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taylor wilsdon i have access to his SS, bank, affiliate accounts
taylor wilsdon i know where ALL his moneys going
taylor wilsdon I'll try to hook you up[/quotef6608cb4d8]
i don't care what any of you think, i did 5 offers for ebp, got no credit or money, and they've all been fucking with me for nearly a month now. tired of this shit.
shamash
24-11-2005 16:36:30
and, the grand finale, thank google desktop search
[quote537cdddb63]taylor wilsdon but don't do anything
me you know my password
me P
taylor wilsdon yeah
taylor wilsdon i know everyones password
taylor wilsdon but i swear to go
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me why
taylor wilsdon or you'll never get paid
me x
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me i wont do anything with it
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me You invited me here!
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taylor wilsdon kk
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taylor wilsdon becuase most of fipgs mod staff is registered
taylor wilsdon plus it has paypal passwords and such
me who uses their actual pass for this
me lol
taylor wilsdon everyone, actually >=)
me i bet only 10 percent are peoples real passwords
me wahahaha
taylor wilsdon thats why i use "password"
me your password is "password"?
taylor wilsdon fipg its pasword
taylor wilsdon try
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taylor wilsdon you can see my ban message
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taylor wilsdon as
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me thats the same message i got
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me O
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taylor wilsdon i knows
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me heh[/quote537cdddb63]
Iloveipods2
24-11-2005 16:41:41
woot stun dance2 dance
that's the best grand finale i've seen in a while, what's a ban msg or w/e?
shamash
24-11-2005 16:43:57
its a sad dog
kinda cute one too.
Admin
24-11-2005 16:47:28
He's right about the admin panel and the passwords. Someone sent me that link and I archived every page of it for posterity. Don't worry, I'm not sharing your passwords or logging in anywhere--but I do suggest anyone registered on EBP change their password on other sites.
Here's what's wrong with the situation
-IsMaR hired goofygarber to work on his site. A 14 year old of questionable moral fiber.
-IsMaR's script stores passwords as plaintext. This is an extremely bad idea for a lot of reasons. I'm not going to go into them here, but there's a reason that every reputable piece of user management software out there stores passwords as one-way hashes.
-IsMaR let the admin panel be viewable to anyone. No user, password, or IP authentication. That's like day one of basic website security.
The entire situation seemed sketchy so when I made an account to look at the site a few days ago I used a password I don't use anywhere else. I'm really thankful for that now. Its pretty disturbing to know that my personal info (user, email, pass, address) was published online with utter disregard for privacy. I know I wont be doing EBP now...
shamash
24-11-2005 16:48:29
D/w admin, you wouldn't have gotten any credit anyways -_-
J4320
24-11-2005 16:50:27
I'm not gonna read through all of these posts.......
So goofy knows our passwords to paypal if we did a certain site and our password to paypal is the same as that site?
Thank God I use different passwords on everything. D
shamash
24-11-2005 16:52:39
Yeah, that pass was just my forum/freesite pss. not my paypal pass, or pass for anything that costs me money P
justinag06
24-11-2005 16:58:09
The whole not knowing the age of everyone thing kinda creeps me out more and more.
Is anyone else actually the age they claim to be?
shamash
24-11-2005 17:02:07
btw veek - sorry for defending goofy.
[quoted0362c03c0="shamash"]btw veek - sorry for defending goofy.[/quoted0362c03c0]
I was actually going to PM you like in 2 minutes apologizing for making you feel irritated with my posts against Goofy.
All is well. )
phorty
24-11-2005 17:06:07
Regardless of the fact that goofy has been previously invovled in a public scandal involving the theft (or would be theft) of little yellow ipods, the new accusations of him hijacking peoples accounts is truely unverfiable.
Sure he may of HAD access to them and perhaps its another case of the original dilemma whereas the charge was really about whether or not "malicious intent" was invovled .
Speaking with both i can conclude that neither of them has any significant proof that can either be verified for their factual content/nature and is therefore all hearsay.
The convo posted by shamash could have easily been fabricated and was obviously modified ( IE "me") .
As far as Goofys claims about stealing accounts , is there any among you who have been hijacked? No.
Goofy is Ok with being permbanned ( not that he really had a say in it) and so the only thing left to dispute is the legitability of EPB (which is goofy's number one concern).
Now , I having no affiliation with EPB can say nothing , for i have no idea how it is run other than from what i hear and have nothing new to offer any of you. But before you condemn it on heresay , try investigating it , just like any other Freebie site on the web.
So there you have it.
If shamash did complete the offers (which goofy claims that he did not- and that in a fit of rage tried to expose him through these accusations) and did not get credited then all i can say is " that sucks".
If goofy was right about shamash then to goofy all i can say is "that sucks".
Im not a MOD at this forum and dont know why ive become the center of this debate between two people who i mutually do not know.
& so i leave it for all of you to decide, now that you know some more of the facts through a non bias medium.
For all of you that didnt "get" my previous posts in this thread i was just being sarcastic as usual.
But just for the sake of it , talking with ishmash long enough does make one reconsider his sanity much less legitability on all his claims.
shamash
24-11-2005 17:11:31
phorty - check out google desktop search. thats how they save AIM logs, with "me" instead of your sn.
im in no fit of rage. ive done 5 offers, but have accepted the fact that i'll never get paid for them.
and you were an asshole on AIM because you trust goofy, so you can call me insane all you want. happy thanksgiving.
noobert
24-11-2005 17:18:18
why can't anyone be trusted anymore seriously? shock
phorty
24-11-2005 17:22:07
[quote9f3bb75729="shamash"]phorty - check out google desktop search. thats how they save AIM logs, with "me" instead of your sn.
im in no fit of rage. ive done 5 offers, but have accepted the fact that i'll never get paid for them.
and you were an asshole on AIM because you trust goofy, so you can call me insane all you want. happy thanksgiving.[/quote9f3bb75729]
I was an "Asshole" ?
After i was imed randomly by you saying "wtf are you saying about me on FIPG" ...yep thats like the best introduction ive ever had with someone.
Besides if your pissed about the whole situation than its none other than your fault and it was your own ignorance that lead to it.
Goofys 14 , you could tell by his name , i dont trust goofy , why? Because i know him about as much as i know you.
You comming to me asking for some sympathy or to be your personal voice box on FIPG didnt work out exactly as you expected did it?
And now your trying to flame me? I could only wonder how old YOU must be!
Relax. You fucked up. I have nothing to do with this one way or another but it is however easy to see that you are an in fact an ignorant idiot.
shamash
24-11-2005 17:23:33
.. i've told nothing but the truth, and as you can see, you're the only one who doesn't believe me.
and i was IMing you to figure out what you were going to say about me, which i disproved even before you posted it.
you're the last one sticking up for goofy, bud.
phorty
24-11-2005 17:25:48
[quote96ea700fa8="shamash"]..
[b96ea700fa8]you're the last one sticking up for goofy[/b96ea700fa8], bud.[/quote96ea700fa8]
i stand by my accusation of complete ignorance and am not going to continue this with you because id end up just highlighting a bunch of your future priceless quotes.
So now whats left for you to do , huh? Are you going to warn me on AIM? lol lol lol
noobert
24-11-2005 17:26:10
I like how EBP is being dragged into this shit.... If Ismar knew he was a scammer he wouldn't of hired him.... Plenty of people are getting their credits fine, sometimes some don't go through. I hate all this drama. It be nice if people could be trusted and did not act like idiots.
theysayjump
24-11-2005 17:26:28
The day that goofygarber was temp-banned he asked shamash to get me to speak to him on MSN Messenger. After giving me his side of the "hacking" story, he proceeded to tell me how he had all of Ismars information and access to everything. Paypal, bank accounts, everything and that Ismar was going to be paying goofy for certain work he was doing on his site.
I would rather do Joan Rivers than do EBP.
Averagejoe1039
24-11-2005 17:28:31
Ooh, Joan Rivers is pretty ugly to. I like EBP, they gave me some money.
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 17:28:41
EBP...is a fuckin scam see no real security for your info fuck that i say
That's what happens when little kids forget that there is a big world that exists out there.
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 17:29:48
[quotef384b7b1bd="theysayjump"]The day that goofygarber was temp-banned he asked shamash to get me to speak to him on MSN Messenger. After giving me his side of the "hacking" story, he proceeded to tell me how he had all of Ismars information and access to everything. Paypal, bank accounts, everything and that Ismar was going to be paying goofy for certain work he was doing on his site.
I would rather do Joan Rivers than do EBP.[/quotef384b7b1bd]
how the fuck could of i know this.. last time i checked my name was ismar not nostradamus
shamash
24-11-2005 17:30:22
Joan Rivers isn't that bad.
theysayjump
24-11-2005 17:31:04
[quote4cae59e275="EBPIsMaR"][quote4cae59e275="theysayjump"]The day that goofygarber was temp-banned he asked shamash to get me to speak to him on MSN Messenger. After giving me his side of the "hacking" story, he proceeded to tell me how he had all of Ismars information and access to everything. Paypal, bank accounts, everything and that Ismar was going to be paying goofy for certain work he was doing on his site.
I would rather do Joan Rivers than do EBP.[/quote4cae59e275]
how the fuck could of i know this.. last time i checked my name was ismar not nostradamus[/quote4cae59e275]
What?
shamash
24-11-2005 17:31:51
He's saying he didn't know about the security flaws. His first site was set up by the infamous Mr_Black.
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 17:32:24
[quoteadcfe16eb0="theysayjump"][quoteadcfe16eb0="EBPIsMaR"][quoteadcfe16eb0="theysayjump"]The day that goofygarber was temp-banned he asked shamash to get me to speak to him on MSN Messenger. After giving me his side of the "hacking" story, he proceeded to tell me how he had all of Ismars information and access to everything. Paypal, bank accounts, everything and that Ismar was going to be paying goofy for certain work he was doing on his site.
I would rather do Joan Rivers than do EBP.[/quoteadcfe16eb0]
how the fuck could of i know this.. last time i checked my name was ismar not nostradamus[/quoteadcfe16eb0]
What?[/quoteadcfe16eb0]you do know who nostradamus is?
justinag06
24-11-2005 17:36:02
[quote0d89b615a7="noobert"]I like how EBP is being dragged into this shit.... If Ismar knew he was a scammer he wouldn't of hired him.... Plenty of people are getting their credits fine, sometimes some don't go through. I hate all this drama. It be nice if people could be trusted and did not act like idiots.[/quote0d89b615a7]
I feel your pain and agree with you, but realize this; We don't know ishmar, I am not his friend, he is new here. I don't need to hear he paid you or goofy $12,000 to make me do his site either.
Legitimacy is something earned, over time. Not something bought in a day. Between all of these security issues being questioned, a sites legitimacy is also brought into question. I don't think anyone is dragging anyones name through the mud, we are just stating the facts.
The fact that EBP hasn't taken simple security measures worries me, it worries me even more because a lot of noobs don't know about fusioncash or casinocashunlimited. These are the same site as EBP, but they have been here run by mods for more than a couple of weeks. It also worries me when Ishmar is hiring random users, i mean a 14 yr old flilikin with my money? Sorry I ani't having that.
So for all the good press(pictures of $20,000 in the brag bag), EBP deserves every second of questionable business practice discussion as well.
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 17:37:36
[quote5f22517c28="theysayjump"]The day that goofygarber was temp-banned he asked shamash to get me to speak to him on MSN Messenger. After giving me his side of the "hacking" story, he proceeded to tell me how he had all of Ismars information and access to everything. Paypal, bank accounts, everything and that Ismar was going to be paying goofy for certain work he was doing on his site.
I would rather do Joan Rivers than do EBP.[/quote5f22517c28]ROFL,Joan Rivers lol
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 17:38:49
[quote562f23ea3a="justinag06"][quote562f23ea3a="noobert"]I like how EBP is being dragged into this shit.... If Ismar knew he was a scammer he wouldn't of hired him.... Plenty of people are getting their credits fine, sometimes some don't go through. I hate all this drama. It be nice if people could be trusted and did not act like idiots.[/quote562f23ea3a]
I feel your pain and agree with you, but realize this; We don't know ishmar, I am not his friend, he is new here. I don't need to hear he paid you or goofy $12,000 to make me do his site either.
Legitimacy is something earned, over time. Not something bought in a day. Between all of these security issues being questioned, a sites legitimacy is also brought into question. I don't think anyone is dragging anyones name through the mud, we are just stating the facts.
The fact that EBP hasn't taken simple security measures worries me, it worries me even more because a lot of noobs don't know about fusioncash or casinocashunlimited. These are the same site as EBP, but they have been here run by mods for more than a couple of weeks. It also worries me when Ishmar is hiring random users, i mean a 14 yr old flilikin with my money? Sorry I ani't having that.
So for all the good press(pictures of $20,000 in the brag bag), EBP deserves every second of questionable business practice discussion as well.[/quote562f23ea3a]he wouldn't pay for his life,if he had that much money he'd be like a jew and keep the money lol (no pun intended)
theysayjump
24-11-2005 17:39:22
[quote33e14e4b55="EBPIsMaR"][quote33e14e4b55="theysayjump"][quote33e14e4b55="EBPIsMaR"][quote33e14e4b55="theysayjump"]The day that goofygarber was temp-banned he asked shamash to get me to speak to him on MSN Messenger. After giving me his side of the "hacking" story, he proceeded to tell me how he had all of Ismars information and access to everything. Paypal, bank accounts, everything and that Ismar was going to be paying goofy for certain work he was doing on his site.
I would rather do Joan Rivers than do EBP.[/quote33e14e4b55]
how the fuck could of i know this.. last time i checked my name was ismar not nostradamus[/quote33e14e4b55]
What?[/quote33e14e4b55]you do know who nostradamus is?[/quote33e14e4b55]
Yeah, he's the guy with the beard right?
Anyway, why the fuck would you hire a 14 year old kid and give him full access to your site? Not only that, why didn't you get your sites security checked by a grown up, before launching them/it.
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 17:40:16
[quote2d8dfb59f1="dudelovesFinch1035"]EBP...is a fuckin scam see no real security for your info fuck that i say[/quote2d8dfb59f1]
1. ask admin if FIPG database is encrypted
2. its easy to say that something is un-secured when you open up gates
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 17:43:59
[quote57061ad6fb="EBPIsMaR"][quote57061ad6fb="dudelovesFinch1035"]EBP...is a fuckin scam see no real security for your info fuck that i say[/quote57061ad6fb]
1. ask admin if FIPG database is encrypted
2. its easy to say that something is un-secured when you open up gates[/quote57061ad6fb]Whatever lol noones gonna do your scammish site anymore anyways
noobert
24-11-2005 17:46:42
Pointing out how unsecure something is funny. Gee if goofy has all the stuff shamash claims he is a master hacker.... No way...... Bullshit he isn't hacking paypal addy's, i don't see one hacked yet. As for goofy being a 14 year old how would he know without goofy telling him? It seems like everyone who makes scripts these days does shitty work that is insecure. You would think by spending a lot of money over and over would make something better. I guess not. None of you are in any jeopardy so stop worrying about it. Goofy's info is retained if this was true, and let's just say he would be in some trouble when his momma got a call....
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 17:47:12
[quote298523839e="dudelovesFinch1035"][quote298523839e="EBPIsMaR"][quote298523839e="dudelovesFinch1035"]EBP...is a fuckin scam see no real security for your info fuck that i say[/quote298523839e]
1. ask admin if FIPG database is encrypted
2. its easy to say that something is un-secured when you open up gates[/quote298523839e]Whatever lol noones gonna do your scammish site anymore anyways[/quote298523839e]
scammish site? i didnt scam anybody, everyone who got their points got their gift in 7 days or less... i belived in goofy cause he showed me some stuff you know, and he seemed to be sick with PHP and coding, and i really need a coder. EBP is not my only project, but i guess you cant really trust anyone.
noobert
24-11-2005 17:47:55
Myeasyscript is being worked on and is going to be installed since all of you think everything is unsecure.... Yeah such a scam thousands of stuff shipped... Sounds like Mr. sofa sets to me.... When someone shows you that they are good with PHP you would hire them.... You can keep calling the site a scam and watch people get their gifts....
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 17:48:41
[quote2a182fcb1f="EBPIsMaR"][quote2a182fcb1f="dudelovesFinch1035"][quote2a182fcb1f="EBPIsMaR"][quote2a182fcb1f="dudelovesFinch1035"]EBP...is a fuckin scam see no real security for your info fuck that i say[/quote2a182fcb1f]
1. ask admin if FIPG database is encrypted
2. its easy to say that something is un-secured when you open up gates[/quote2a182fcb1f]Whatever lol noones gonna do your scammish site anymore anyways[/quote2a182fcb1f]
scammish site? i didnt scam anybody, everyone who got their points got their gift in 7 days or less... i belived in goofy cause he showed me some stuff you know, and he seemed to be sick with PHP and coding, and i really need a coder. EBP is not my only project, but i guess you cant really trust anyone.[/quote2a182fcb1f]my friend did 2 offers,and he didnt receive shit after custom ordering and emailing support or some shit plus people don't receive credit...cause your keeping all the money from the advestisers so shut the fuck up and try to act all innocent.
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 17:49:23
if anyone have problems with their paypal or anything like that, AIM me and ill give you all of goofy's info
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 17:50:48
[quote700e1c1f1c="dudelovesFinch1035"][quote700e1c1f1c="EBPIsMaR"][quote700e1c1f1c="dudelovesFinch1035"][quote700e1c1f1c="EBPIsMaR"][quote700e1c1f1c="dudelovesFinch1035"]EBP...is a fuckin scam see no real security for your info fuck that i say[/quote700e1c1f1c]
1. ask admin if FIPG database is encrypted
2. its easy to say that something is un-secured when you open up gates[/quote700e1c1f1c]Whatever lol noones gonna do your scammish site anymore anyways[/quote700e1c1f1c]
scammish site? i didnt scam anybody, everyone who got their points got their gift in 7 days or less... i belived in goofy cause he showed me some stuff you know, and he seemed to be sick with PHP and coding, and i really need a coder. EBP is not my only project, but i guess you cant really trust anyone.[/quote700e1c1f1c]my friend did 2 offers,and he didnt receive shit after custom ordering and emailing support or some shit plus people don't receive credit...cause your keeping all the money from the advestisers so shut the fuck up and try to act all innocent.[/quote700e1c1f1c]
like i said, everyone's order was paid within 7 days or less
shamash
24-11-2005 17:50:48
Goofy had access to that and therfor had access to paypals. All the people who used their regular email/pass on EBP can be logged in by goofy. he got in some and told me, and i dont think he was lying about that.
noobert
24-11-2005 17:50:51
Keeping credit to ourselves yeah sure.... You can talk to Sara from the CPAEmpire and ask if your credits have been received..... What we get is what we credit....
Admin
24-11-2005 17:51:11
[quote857d348994="EBPIsMaR"][quote857d348994="dudelovesFinch1035"]EBP...is a fuckin scam see no real security for your info fuck that i say[/quote857d348994]
1. ask admin if FIPG database is encrypted
2. its easy to say that something is un-secured when you open up gates[/quote857d348994]
1 It is. Want a screenshot? Ok.
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phpBB2 calculates the one-way md5 hash of user's passwords. It is a non-trivial operation to retrieve a password out of an md5 hash.
2. this is the stupidest statement i've ever read. yes, it is easy to say that. security is about keeping the gates closed. you're telling me that because it was easy to download the personal information of over 300 users it's not your fault? So if it had been difficult for me to obtain that info, you'd take responsibility? Jesus christ...
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 17:52:26
This sites fuckin shady...all i gotta say my friend did leanlife and abslim he got credited for it and when he redeemed it by emailing your site order shit he didnt get a response back,i told him not to do anymore shit for this site...
shamash
24-11-2005 17:53:08
roll
admin teh pwnerer
shamash
24-11-2005 17:53:28
[quote565656e6d7="dudelovesFinch1035"]This sites fuckin shady...all i gotta say my friend did leanlife and abslim he got credited for it and when he redeemed it by emailing your site order shit he didnt get a response back,i told him not to do anymore shit for this site...[/quote565656e6d7]
atleast he got his points.
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 17:54:05
[quote9f0dfb32da="shamash"][quote9f0dfb32da="dudelovesFinch1035"]This sites fuckin shady...all i gotta say my friend did leanlife and abslim he got credited for it and when he redeemed it by emailing your site order shit he didnt get a response back,i told him not to do anymore shit for this site...[/quote9f0dfb32da]
atleast he got his points.[/quote9f0dfb32da]he aint receive shit,though...THATS WHAT MATTERS this sites a fuckin scam
noobert
24-11-2005 17:54:49
keep saying it's a scam and watch all the proof pics come in....
Admin
24-11-2005 17:55:06
and are you seriously questioning whether goofy has that info? liIli have it on my computer. Every fucking user. All the passwords. Anyone who uses that password on any other site is vulnerable.
Sure, he'd be stupid to fuck up someone's paypal account, but if we've learned anything from this its that people are total fucking morons.
As for the difficulty of figuring out someone's age, I guessed goofy's on the first try and he said "how'd you know". I'll tell you. Common fucking sense.
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 17:55:23
[quotefd70b7bb5a="Admin"][quotefd70b7bb5a="EBPIsMaR"][quotefd70b7bb5a="dudelovesFinch1035"]EBP...is a fuckin scam see no real security for your info fuck that i say[/quotefd70b7bb5a]
1. ask admin if FIPG database is encrypted
2. its easy to say that something is un-secured when you open up gates[/quotefd70b7bb5a]
1 It is. Want a screenshot? Ok.
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phpBB2 calculates the one-way md5 hash of user's passwords. It is a non-trivial operation to retrieve a password out of an md5 hash.
2. this is the stupidest statement i've ever read. yes, it is easy to say that. security is about keeping the gates closed. you're telling me that because it was easy to download the personal information of over 300 users it's not your fault? So if it had been difficult for me to obtain that info, you'd take responsibility? Jesus christ...[/quotefd70b7bb5a]
hold up
goofy opened up all gates when he got access to the server.. look at clone script site.. everything secure..
http//www.earnbypoints.com/test/
justinag06
24-11-2005 17:55:40
scam
legit
scam
legit
horse
Admin
24-11-2005 17:59:02
[quote00d4d5a28f="EBPIsMaR"]
hold up
goofy opened up all gates when he got access to the server.. look at clone script site.. everything secure..
http//www.earnbypoints.com/test/[/quote00d4d5a28f]
what? that proves nothing, except that you're still hiring moron developers
[quote00d4d5a28f]
Warning main(http//freebypoints.com/pop_gifts.php) failed to open stream HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found in /home/earnbypo/public_html/test/footer.php on line 2
Warning main(http//freebypoints.com/pop_gifts.php) failed to open stream HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found in /home/earnbypo/public_html/test/footer.php on line 2
Warning main() Failed opening 'http//freebypoints.com/pop_gifts.php' for inclusion (include_path='./usr/lib/php/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/earnbypo/public_html/test/footer.php on line 2
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EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 18:07:00
[quote726b62f87a="Admin"][quote726b62f87a="EBPIsMaR"]
hold up
goofy opened up all gates when he got access to the server.. look at clone script site.. everything secure..
http//www.earnbypoints.com/test/[/quote726b62f87a]
what? that proves nothing, except that you're still hiring moron developers
[quote726b62f87a]
Warning main(http//freebypoints.com/pop_gifts.php) failed to open stream HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found in /home/earnbypo/public_html/test/footer.php on line 2
Warning main(http//freebypoints.com/pop_gifts.php) failed to open stream HTTP request failed! HTTP/1.1 404 Not Found in /home/earnbypo/public_html/test/footer.php on line 2
Warning main() Failed opening 'http//freebypoints.com/pop_gifts.php' for inclusion (include_path='./usr/lib/php/usr/local/lib/php') in /home/earnbypo/public_html/test/footer.php on line 2
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yeah im aware of that now... maybe you can refer someone?
Averagejoe1039
24-11-2005 18:08:33
Legit. I'm not part of EBP, but I for one know this site is not a scam. Yeah, we all have been hacked before. Wasn't Fig hacked? Any site can be hacked. Yeah, IsMar did make a mistake letting a 14 year old deal with our credits, but was anyone hurt? EBP has been very successful until now when GoofyGarber started his hacking spree. There is no way to know for sure if someone is 14 or not. Like Noobert said, anyone's paypal accounts who get hacked into can just call up his mom and have a word with her. Lately, IsMar has been through a lot. His car broke down, and now this. Everyone has received their paypal. This is one stage in their site. Why not give them another chance? I can understand all your frustration, but I for one know, that my information is safe with EBP. Sure it may have been out on the internet, but how would Goofy think to use that as our paypal? Many people use different passwords and stuff. Goofy tricked me into his trap, told me I should stick up for him, and I did, and I regret it now. But why is EBP being attacked so much. One incident and everyone blows up. I don't understand it. I'll say it one more time, Was ANYONE hurt by this accident? If not, let's just drop it.
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 18:09:52
[quotea014cb9259="noobert"]keep saying it's a scam and watch all the proof pics come in....[/quotea014cb9259]proof pics dont mean shit,this sites not freepay now so shut the fuck up,only defending the scamming owner cause you got paid hush money probably roll
noobert
24-11-2005 18:12:35
wow you are an idiot.... I have invested my own money into this site..... Believe what you want.... When people are getting paid and getting their prize that means the site is legit... if 5 people get there gift only i would see things differently... I have been known to take scam sites down as I did with tabletsforzip.... Ismar would not have his real information out there if he was a scam...
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 18:14:56
[quote7b9a35a573="noobert"]wow you are an idiot.... I have invested my own money into this site..... Believe what you want.... When people are getting paid and getting their prize that means the site is legit... if 5 people get there gift only i would see things differently... I have been known to take scam sites down as I did with tabletsforzip.... Ismar would not have his real information out there if he was a scam...[/quote7b9a35a573]so your scam patrol now,give me a break.... lol lol
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 18:16:00
my whoiz info is still legit
noobert
24-11-2005 18:16:18
All i can say is watch EBP undergo changes and grow into a successfull site..... Those who doubt us, I laugh at you. You will see what EBP is all about.... If you don't like the site don't do it.... Just watch us grow .... A toast to the reconstruction of EBP and the good things to come. dance
Averagejoe1039
24-11-2005 18:17:13
Why can't we just all drop it?
noobert
24-11-2005 18:17:50
Let see seing as I do not tolerate scams, why would i come back to work for EBP? EBP is legit that's why. Think what you want to think. You will see soon enough how legit we are and how we plan to expand....
Admin
24-11-2005 18:18:06
[quotea3e844acfe="Averagejoe1039"]Wasn't Fig hacked? Any site can be hacked. [/quotea3e844acfe]
Uh, no? And no.
[quotea3e844acfe]Yeah, IsMar did make a mistake letting a 14 year old deal with our credits, but was anyone hurt? EBP has been very successful until now when GoofyGarber started his hacking spree. There is no way to know for sure if someone is 14 or not. Like Noobert said, anyone's paypal accounts who get hacked into can just call up his mom and have a word with her. Lately, IsMar has been through a lot. His car broke down, and now this. Everyone has received their paypal. This is one stage in their site. Why not give them another chance? I can understand all your frustration, but I for one know, that my information is safe with EBP. Sure it may have been out on the internet, but how would Goofy think to use that as our paypal? Many people use different passwords and stuff. Goofy tricked me into his trap, told me I should stick up for him, and I did, and I regret it now. But why is EBP being attacked so much. One incident and everyone blows up. I don't understand it. I'll say it one more time, Was ANYONE hurt by this accident? If not, let's just drop it.[/quotea3e844acfe]
the fact is, we dont know if anyone was hurt by this. there are plenty of people who never visit any freebie forums signed up for ebp. as demonstrated there are plenty of people who use the same password for both.
regardless, the point here is not whether or not anyone was "hurt", but rather whether or not anyone wishes to trust a site that literally published all of their information to an open website [ba3e844acfe]and still has not publically acknowledged the problem or offered an apology[/ba3e844acfe]. your arguments are fucking absurd. seriously, just read what you wrote. it says nothing of consequence and doesn't even make sense.
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 18:18:09
yeah lets all drop it..
cant wait till tomorrow...
Admin
24-11-2005 18:21:06
tomorrow i think my car will break down and i'll have to open up fipg's database of 5500 users though (
noobert
24-11-2005 18:21:20
I'd like to drop it but it looks like some people want to beat this to a dead horse. I am asking them to see what we are all about and I guess they still think we are a scam. One final thing, if you don't think we legit, you will see how legit we are as time goes on. If the admin is around, i think this should be locked since it has been resolved and no more of this nonesense. All i say is wait it out and you will see what we have to offer and how legit we are. So admin, what do you think? I don't want this to turn into some giant flame war that will solve nothing. I think this should be close and all I can say is time will tell what we stand for and what we have to offer....
Admin
24-11-2005 18:23:02
no. i will not be a party to burying this invasion of privacy. fipg has always been about transparency. there are plenty of other sites where mods will hide incriminating info from users on the behest of site owners. i'm sure they'd love to have you guys.
justinag06
24-11-2005 18:23:36
[quote09bde1d738="noobert"]'d like to drop it but it looks like some people want to beat this to a dead horse. I am asking them to see what we are all about and I guess they still think we are a scam. One final thing, if you don't think we legit, you will see how legit we are as time goes on. If the admin is around, i think this should be locked since it has been resolved and no more of this nonesense. All i say is wait it out and you will see what we have to offer and how legit we are. So admin, what do you think? I don't want this to turn into some giant flame war that will solve nothing. I think this should be close and all I can say is time will tell what we stand for and what we have to offer....[/quote09bde1d738]
...no security and 14 year olds fucking with your money
noobert
24-11-2005 18:24:44
and yeah admin things happen.... I was in a flood not that long ago as I have posted on fipg and that's part of the reason of why things didn't go so well.... Drop this and watch for things to come and decide what you want of us. You will see how we operate, and what the future will be. I guarantee you we are legit but it looks like you guys don't really trust anyone and i don't blame u. So let time tell and decide what you want....
noobert
24-11-2005 18:25:53
Ok fine lets keep this open.... Gee we have goofy's info...... I will laugh when nothing happens... If anything did, just one call to his momma.....
noobert
24-11-2005 18:26:29
and speaking of sites, i still didn't get credit for my offers on fusion cash wink
justinag06
24-11-2005 18:26:43
if he locks it now someone may log on tomorrow with something to say and then they can't
noobert
24-11-2005 18:29:18
fine I don't care keep this open forever. I will just keep adding to it... Go ahead and call me a scam, if all i have been doing in my freesite career has been pointing out scam sites....
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 18:30:22
[quote65cedfb398="noobert"]Let see seing as I do not tolerate scams, why would i come back to work for EBP? EBP is legit that's why. Think what you want to think. You will see soon enough how legit we are and how we plan to expand....[/quote65cedfb398]cause,you want more scam money roll
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 18:31:45
[quotec268301052="justinag06"][quotec268301052="noobert"]'d like to drop it but it looks like some people want to beat this to a dead horse. I am asking them to see what we are all about and I guess they still think we are a scam. One final thing, if you don't think we legit, you will see how legit we are as time goes on. If the admin is around, i think this should be locked since it has been resolved and no more of this nonesense. All i say is wait it out and you will see what we have to offer and how legit we are. So admin, what do you think? I don't want this to turn into some giant flame war that will solve nothing. I think this should be close and all I can say is time will tell what we stand for and what we have to offer....[/quotec268301052]
...no security and 14 year olds fucking with your money[/quotec268301052]
how am i suppose to know someone's age and security has been there untill that 14 year old took it off... he never fucked with my money tho
noobert
24-11-2005 18:32:26
[quote33865f8502="dudelovesFinch1035"][quote33865f8502="noobert"]Let see seing as I do not tolerate scams, why would i come back to work for EBP? EBP is legit that's why. Think what you want to think. You will see soon enough how legit we are and how we plan to expand....[/quote33865f8502]cause,you want more scam money roll[/quote33865f8502]
yeah i get money for finding scams?? If you think we are a scam then you are wrong.... Time will show the thousands of dollars in gifts we have shipped out.
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 18:33:41
[quote39530fde31="noobert"][quote39530fde31="dudelovesFinch1035"][quote39530fde31="noobert"]Let see seing as I do not tolerate scams, why would i come back to work for EBP? EBP is legit that's why. Think what you want to think. You will see soon enough how legit we are and how we plan to expand....[/quote39530fde31]cause,you want more scam money roll[/quote39530fde31]
yeah i get money for finding scams?? If you think we are a scam then you are wrong.... Time will show the thousands of dollars in gifts we have shipped out.[/quote39530fde31]you sound like earnbypoints has been alive for 5 years,UMMM WAKE UP CALL its just started so shut the fuck up lol )
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 18:33:58
[quote9e7173834f="noobert"][quote9e7173834f="dudelovesFinch1035"][quote9e7173834f="noobert"]Let see seing as I do not tolerate scams, why would i come back to work for EBP? EBP is legit that's why. Think what you want to think. You will see soon enough how legit we are and how we plan to expand....[/quote9e7173834f]cause,you want more scam money roll[/quote9e7173834f]
yeah i get money for finding scams?? If you think we are a scam then you are wrong.... Time will show the thousands of dollars in gifts we have shipped out.[/quote9e7173834f]we already shipped 7,000$.. yeah okay, we're scamming ?
justinag06
24-11-2005 18:35:25
[quotec6fa16edfc="EBPIsMaR"]
[bc6fa16edfc]how am i suppose to know someone's age and security has been there untill that 14 year old took it off[/bc6fa16edfc]... he never fucked with my money tho[/quotec6fa16edfc]
Exactly my point if you didn't know his age then what else DON'T you know? I mean if you aren't sure who you are working with, then why should we trust you? I am merely saying you appear to have no business doing what you are doing.
I meant he is fucking with others money, not yours
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 18:35:50
[quotefb840676ad="EBPIsMaR"][quotefb840676ad="noobert"][quotefb840676ad="dudelovesFinch1035"][quotefb840676ad="noobert"]Let see seing as I do not tolerate scams, why would i come back to work for EBP? EBP is legit that's why. Think what you want to think. You will see soon enough how legit we are and how we plan to expand....[/quotefb840676ad]cause,you want more scam money roll[/quotefb840676ad]
yeah i get money for finding scams?? If you think we are a scam then you are wrong.... Time will show the thousands of dollars in gifts we have shipped out.[/quotefb840676ad]we already shipped 7,000$.. yeah okay, we're scamming ?[/quotefb840676ad]wow,OMG...you shipped 7K and scammed the rest out of credits and lying nice...... x
noobert
24-11-2005 18:36:50
he isn't fucking with anyone's money. If he had been you guys would notice it and hsi info would be pasted in this forum.
noobert
24-11-2005 18:37:33
[quoteef308b1c91="dudelovesFinch1035"][quoteef308b1c91="EBPIsMaR"][quoteef308b1c91="noobert"][quoteef308b1c91="dudelovesFinch1035"][quoteef308b1c91="noobert"]Let see seing as I do not tolerate scams, why would i come back to work for EBP? EBP is legit that's why. Think what you want to think. You will see soon enough how legit we are and how we plan to expand....[/quoteef308b1c91]cause,you want more scam money roll[/quoteef308b1c91]
yeah i get money for finding scams?? If you think we are a scam then you are wrong.... Time will show the thousands of dollars in gifts we have shipped out.[/quoteef308b1c91]we already shipped 7,000$.. yeah okay, we're scamming ?[/quoteef308b1c91]wow,OMG...you shipped 7K and scammed the rest out of credits and lying nice...... x[/quoteef308b1c91]
Ok so when we ship $200K we will be scamming also?
justinag06
24-11-2005 18:38:13
Ismar and noobert I'm not trying to flame you or bring your site down. I am just stating my obervations.
I have a question though, for 7k in gifts how many users did your site pay out to?
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 18:40:16
[quote8d55f6db6d="justinag06"]Ismar and noobert I'm not trying to flame you or bring your site down. I am just stating my obervations.
I have a question though, for 7k in gifts how many users did your site pay out to?[/quote8d55f6db6d]
good question.....
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 18:41:04
[quote0eaf7c122f="justinag06"]Ismar and noobert I'm not trying to flame you or bring your site down. I am just stating my obervations.
I have a question though, for 7k in gifts how many users did your site pay out to?[/quote0eaf7c122f]18 why?
noobert
24-11-2005 18:41:59
18 users, and justin your questions are fine. You at least have patience unlike some of these people.
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 18:42:31
[quote8ed36724c7="EBPIsMaR"][quote8ed36724c7="justinag06"]Ismar and noobert I'm not trying to flame you or bring your site down. I am just stating my obervations.
I have a question though, for 7k in gifts how many users did your site pay out to?[/quote8ed36724c7]18 why?[/quote8ed36724c7]so your saying,18 of your users did a shitload of offers...and it all amounted to 7k$ hhahahaha and im the king of england
justinag06
24-11-2005 18:43:34
what I suspected.
Cause paying out 7k to 18 people isnt as big a deal as paying it out to over 200 people. I mean how many of these people are your friends that did every offer possible? If you have payed out 7k to 18, and have 4 people saying they were scammed that isn't looking so good.
I mean it isn't fair every time someone cries scam to say you've payed out 7k.
Also I understand some stuff DOESNT credit, or takes forever. So I can understand why you are upset over people calling you a scam
Averagejoe1039
24-11-2005 18:44:39
You are?
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 18:44:48
[quote34d7aecec5="justinag06"]what I suspected.
Cause paying out 7k to 18 people isnt as big a deal as paying it out to over 200 people. I mean how many of these people are your friends that did every offer possible? If you have payed out 7k to 18, and have 4 people saying they were scammed that isn't looking so good[/quote34d7aecec5]
go to any site, claim you did offers you didnt, see if you gon get the credit
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 18:44:55
[quotedd3f790bdb="justinag06"]what I suspected.
Cause paying out 7k to 18 people isnt as big a deal as paying it out to over 200 people. I mean how many of these people are your friends that did every offer possible? If you have payed out 7k to 18, and have 4 people saying they were scammed that isn't looking so good[/quotedd3f790bdb]but think about it...the site doesnt have alot of offers how can these people do alot of offers and in the end receive alot of money in return...and ALL amounting to $7,000
noobert
24-11-2005 18:44:59
wow you are quite idiotic seriously.... Look at some of the proof pics why won't you and see what items the people got...... No not everyone got a lot of money, there are lots who did though.... 1 person for instance got this psp bundle if you care to look in the brag brag....
Gigante
24-11-2005 18:46:00
This isn't good...
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 18:46:46
[quote385bafd02d="Gigante"]And that is just the people in the freebie community. The fact that this site has all passwords in Plaintext is ridiculous. I will not do a EBP site.[/quote385bafd02d]Thank you......another good reason )
justinag06
24-11-2005 18:46:46
i edited this above but here it is again
I mean it isn't fair every time someone cries scam to say you've payed out 7k.
Also I understand some stuff DOESNT credit, or takes forever. So I can understand why you are upset over people calling you a scam
shamash
24-11-2005 18:47:13
well, goofy showed me a SHITLOAD of offers being completed, and it didnt look fake. he also showed me quite a bit of money that ismar got.
i looked at how many offers were done and how many people had points, and it didnt add iup at all.
dudelovesFinch1035
24-11-2005 18:47:37
[quoteef04ac3544="noobert"]wow you are quite idiotic seriously.... Look at some of the proof pics why won't you and see what items the people got...... No not everyone got a lot of money, there are lots who did though.... 1 person for instance got this psp bundle if you care to look in the brag brag....[/quoteef04ac3544][bef04ac3544]where are the lots [/bef04ac3544] besides the psp bundle person.... roll
noobert
24-11-2005 18:49:14
There are quite a few pics there and not everyone posts proof pics....
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 18:49:44
[quotead1571953a="noobert"]There are quite a few pics there and not everyone posts proof pics....[/quotead1571953a]nano, 60gb video, paypal.. etc
JUNIOR6886
24-11-2005 18:50:56
[quote55dc10df19="Admin"]no. i will not be a party to burying this invasion of privacy. fipg has always been about transparency. there are plenty of other sites where mods will hide incriminating info from users on the behest of site owners. i'm sure they'd love to have you guys.[/quote55dc10df19]
liCOUGH A4F liCOUGH lol
shamash
24-11-2005 18:51:36
[quote2d6faed8ec="Gigante"]And that is just the people in the freebie community. The fact that this site has all passwords in Plaintext is ridiculous. I will not do a EBP site.[/quote2d6faed8ec]
i think your passwords is one of the ones goofy said he looked at. did you have like 450 in your paypal? he was oogling.
justinag06
24-11-2005 18:51:44
It is only 400 per user, it's not that outrageous to assume
noobert
24-11-2005 18:52:01
[quote683d47cea2="JUNIOR6886"][quote683d47cea2="Admin"]no. i will not be a party to burying this invasion of privacy. fipg has always been about transparency. there are plenty of other sites where mods will hide incriminating info from users on the behest of site owners. i'm sure they'd love to have you guys.[/quote683d47cea2]
liCOUGH A4F liCOUGH lol[/quote683d47cea2]
lol that was funny
EBPIsMaR
24-11-2005 18:53:03
[quote00b2b8146f="shamash"]well, goofy showed me a SHITLOAD of offers being completed, and it didnt look fake. he also showed me quite a bit of money that ismar got.
i looked at how many offers were done and how many people had points, and it didnt add iup at all.[/quote00b2b8146f]
you do realize when someone orders something, the points are being subtraced.. right?
Fugger
24-11-2005 18:53:50
Hey Ismar, do me a favor. I can't change my password on your site nor was I able to delete it when the admin access was still wide open. Everytime I try to change it I get the following error
Database error Invalid SQL UPDATE users SET password='ihopegoofylivesalonghealthylife' WHERE id=fugger
MySQL Error 1054 (Unknown column 'fugger' in 'where clause')
Session halted.
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Can you just delete my account? And then show me some kind of proof that it is deleted? K? thnks.
kevxross
24-11-2005 19:30:31
Bahahahaha.
phorty
24-11-2005 19:53:44
Regardless of who is in the right. Will anyone besides those who have already dealt with the site do it now?
Seriously , the damage has been done , it cant get any worse since the seed of doubt has been implanted into all the onlookers minds.
ajrock2000
24-11-2005 20:18:32
[quotea40fbcae61="phorty"]Regardless of who is in the right. Will anyone besides those who have already dealt with the site do it now?
Seriously , the damage has been done , it cant get any worse since the seed of doubt has been implanted into all the onlookers minds.[/quotea40fbcae61]
Yup, thats what it pretty much comes down to...I wouldn't go near his site after knowing this.
Wolfeman
24-11-2005 20:35:53
OK this is a fucking shitload to read considering I'm in a turkey coma. My password was revealed and I need to change it?
johnjimjones
24-11-2005 20:42:08
[quotec57f1854ba="Wolfeman"]OK this is a fucking shitload to read considering I'm in a turkey coma. My password was revealed and I need to change it?[/quotec57f1854ba]
Good call, I signed up for that and I don't want people going around with my info.
tracemhunter
24-11-2005 20:42:40
ok... i got credit for my offers and my newegg gift cert from ebp. either way goofy should stay banned.
johnjimjones
24-11-2005 20:50:31
[quotecb78abe42e="tracemhunter"]ok... i got credit for my offers and my newegg gift cert from ebp. either way goofy should stay banned.[/quotecb78abe42e]
Well in light of the new news of him screwing with EBP I wouldn't have voted for him to be unbanned. Not to say him breaking and entering FIPG was any lesser of an offense, but now he's dealing with serious personal information.
justinag06
24-11-2005 22:37:46
funny how one thing was harmless and funny, but now its not a joke anymore. It's just proof positive of what people like admin and theysayjump were saying all along.
Also can someone clear up exactly what we know.
Goofy has peoples EBP passwords?
Or our FIPG passwords?
Fugger
25-11-2005 10:26:05
[quotea8a376cf33="Fugger"]Hey Ismar, do me a favor. I can't change my password on your site nor was I able to delete it when the admin access was still wide open. Everytime I try to change it I get the following error
Database error Invalid SQL UPDATE users SET password='ihopegoofylivesalonghealthylife' WHERE id=fugger
MySQL Error 1054 (Unknown column 'fugger' in 'where clause')
Session halted.
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Can you just delete my account? And then show me some kind of proof that it is deleted? K? thnks.[/quotea8a376cf33]
Just so you know, I wasn't joking around or anything... Please delete my account.
Automag389
25-11-2005 12:14:11
I'm opfficially spooked... the latter end of this thread inspired me to log into my EBP account and I see that I have 220 points. I spent all my points on a nano last month and I haven't completed an offer since....
mpbollywoodking
25-11-2005 12:57:27
i had a trade with goofy and he sent me money through PayPal? Will that be a problem? Do i need to change my password for that account or is the problem one with EBP accounts
nate08
25-11-2005 13:09:13
EBPIsMaR
Sort of off topic, but you have a unique signature...
Did you do it yourself?
kevxross
25-11-2005 13:12:48
[quote320b9815c5="nate08"]EBPIsMaR
Sort of off topic, but you have a unique signature...
Did you do it yourself?[/quote320b9815c5]
its skrate thug yo
phorty
25-11-2005 13:20:12
since this thread is really going nowhere new . im going ask a question thats been on my mind recently... where the hell is CG?
Fugger
25-11-2005 14:29:52
[quotec9720466b9="phorty"]since this thread is really going nowhere new . im going ask a question thats been on my mind recently... where the hell is CG?[/quotec9720466b9]
He lurks around... He's too busy with his job thing and his wife thing and his dog thing and his life thing to come play anymore. His loss!
Gigante
25-11-2005 15:04:17
[quote36f29a2bce="shamash"][quote36f29a2bce="Gigante"]And that is just the people in the freebie community. The fact that this site has all passwords in Plaintext is ridiculous. I will not do a EBP site.[/quote36f29a2bce]
i think your passwords is one of the ones goofy said he looked at. did you have like 450 in your paypal? he was oogling.[/quote36f29a2bce]
What the fuck? Was that a random answer or did he really? because that was how much was in there about when this happened.
Gigante
25-11-2005 15:05:23
Also, by law, if your server is compromised and any personal info is available, aren't you required to notify all people that COULD have been affected? This could get very serious very quickly.
[quote6b03815833="Gigante"][quote6b03815833="shamash"][quote6b03815833="Gigante"]And that is just the people in the freebie community. The fact that this site has all passwords in Plaintext is ridiculous. I will not do a EBP site.[/quote6b03815833]
i think your passwords is one of the ones goofy said he looked at. did you have like 450 in your paypal? he was oogling.[/quote6b03815833]
What the fuck? Was that a random answer or did he really? because that was how much was in there about when this happened.[/quote6b03815833]
It seems too much coincidence for him to guess that amount of money, don't ya think? wink
Gigante
25-11-2005 15:13:20
Probably. I want that guys info. Along with his father's, etc.
justinag06
25-11-2005 15:17:41
preface im not goofys friend nor a big believer of him
he told me this earlier though, but hasnt responded to me since
I was waiting for an ok from admin on if I should post, but seeing these most recent replies I feel I should put it out there
[quotec02e9a0dca]taylor wilsdon (33246 PM) and that moron shamash screwed up so bad
taylor wilsdon (33254 PM) his paypal account is on permeant hold, though =P
justinag06 (33259 PM) why?
taylor wilsdon (33306 PM) becuase he was the one who opened those paypals
taylor wilsdon (33308 PM) not me
justinag06 (33320 PM) opened what paypals?
taylor wilsdon (33326 PM) he "haxor'd"
taylor wilsdon (33331 PM) and then blaimed it on me
justinag06 (33335 PM) hacked whose?
taylor wilsdon (33344 PM) peoples paypal emails
taylor wilsdon (33346 PM) so I sent his email over
taylor wilsdon (33350 PM) and turns out his IP had logged into
taylor wilsdon (33353 PM) a bunch of paypal emails
taylor wilsdon (33355 PM) so hes on hld
justinag06 (34435 PM) well ill alert everyone else about it
justinag06 (34444 PM) how did he get the paypal logins?
taylor wilsdon returned at 35627 PM.
taylor wilsdon went idle at 41328 PM.
taylor wilsdon returned at 43250 PM.
justinag06 (45232 PM) hey you there[/quotec02e9a0dca]
ajrock2000
25-11-2005 15:20:30
shock
justinag06
25-11-2005 15:20:43
also he said this
[quote4b07dd962b]taylor wilsdon (32734 PM) hey
justinag06 (32744 PM) i thought you were 17
justinag06 (32747 PM) not 14
taylor wilsdon (32751 PM) ?
taylor wilsdon (32801 PM) who said i was 14
justinag06 (32804 PM) everyone
justinag06 (32808 PM) no sense in lying
taylor wilsdon (32815 PM) why would I lie haha?
justinag06 (32824 PM) I dunno
taylor wilsdon (32828 PM) i'm already banned from everything =\
taylor wilsdon (32834 PM) I don't really see why I'd conceal anything[/quote4b07dd962b]
can anyone actually vouch for the fact he is 14? I mean it doesn't really matter, except to just how much of a degree he is lying now
phorty
25-11-2005 15:24:11
so this is how season 2 begins ,lol.
ahh the many plot twists. this is the best thread ever. )
Fugger
25-11-2005 15:26:55
[quotec63e8e1118="Gigante"]Also, by law, if your server is compromised and any personal info is available, aren't you required to notify all people that COULD have been affected? This could get very serious very quickly.[/quotec63e8e1118]
Well, I do not beleive that is national law, however... I do know that it is state law in California but I am not sure about the rest of the union. T-Mobile faced a lot of shit for not notifying customers after their servers were breached a year or so ago.
justinag06
25-11-2005 15:28:45
[quote709d983174]Jordan Grelewicz (91042 PM) i was gonna suggest I look for paypals
Jordan Grelewicz (91042 PM) but we'd so get cought
Jordan Grelewicz (91101 PM) thats way ilegal
Jordan Grelewicz (91107 PM) paypal would figure it out
Jordan Grelewicz (91107 PM) im sure
Jordan Grelewicz (91109 PM) i mean
Jordan Grelewicz (91113 PM) what could you do with the money
Jordan Grelewicz (91122 PM) ahaha
Jordan Grelewicz (91124 PM) ewll
Jordan Grelewicz (91128 PM) i kinda logged into one
Jordan Grelewicz (91130 PM) so
taylor wilsdon (91134 PM) =O
taylor wilsdon (91134 PM) which?
taylor wilsdon (91136 PM) no you didnt
taylor wilsdon (91137 PM) did you?
Jordan Grelewicz (91139 PM) ahahaha
Jordan Grelewicz (91143 PM) well
Jordan Grelewicz (91148 PM) i did with my t3 project accuont
Jordan Grelewicz (91150 PM) which is proxyized[/quote709d983174]
[quote709d983174]Jordan Grelewicz (92023 PM) god
Jordan Grelewicz (92026 PM) ive gotten into so amny paypals
Jordan Grelewicz (92035 PM) first was 450 sadly this one has none
Jordan Grelewicz (92040 PM) but it has 37 things done
Jordan Grelewicz (92115 PM) ooh
Jordan Grelewicz (92126 PM) stackmjwiz[/quote709d983174]
ajrock2000
25-11-2005 15:35:59
hahahaha, omg. I am going to laugh by assssssssssss off if that is true.
justinag06
25-11-2005 15:39:16
I honostly don't know what to believe
ajrock2000
25-11-2005 15:41:35
haha those convos look pretty legit...I doubt he would go through all the trouble editing them...
justinag06
25-11-2005 15:43:17
I'm making him go through the trouble of taking a SS so I can post it
justinag06
25-11-2005 15:46:16
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justinag06
25-11-2005 15:49:27
since the major accusation made by shamash put goofys name in the red and appears to be BS i'm posting goofy's side of the story.
it's really funny I see myself doing this cause I never like the guy. Just feel maybe he is telling the truth, and got a bad beat.
[quoteec4af9a7e0]justinag06 (53729 PM) well everyone has given up on you
taylor wilsdon (53734 PM) but oh well
taylor wilsdon (53737 PM) ismar fucked me over
taylor wilsdon (53739 PM) he didn't pay me
taylor wilsdon (53741 PM) for all the work I did
taylor wilsdon (53744 PM) so he can go to hell
justinag06 (53758 PM) he made it seem that you made the site unsecure
justinag06 (53803 PM) and you broke into the paypals
taylor wilsdon (53805 PM) are you shitting me?
taylor wilsdon (53809 PM) that crazy fucker
taylor wilsdon (53811 PM) are you telling me
taylor wilsdon (53817 PM) that he said that it was unsecure BECAUSE of me?
taylor wilsdon (53826 PM) man when I came in there it there was no protection
taylor wilsdon (53831 PM) I added a password to the admin area
taylor wilsdon (53838 PM) it was plain html files when I starte working
taylor wilsdon (53838 PM) =\
justinag06 (53858 PM) ok
justinag06 (53903 PM) make your case
justinag06 (53905 PM) ill post it
taylor wilsdon (53910 PM) allright
taylor wilsdon (54058 PM) "When I started working on crediting for earnbypoints, they were coming off a unsuccessful conversion to another script. I offered to help him with crediting, and we began working. The admin area on his site was entirely unsecure, it had no password and all the files were wide open html documents. He left no protection to any users personal data, and a simple guess could grant anyone, anywhere, access to private information and access to records. Eventually, I decided this was too much of a risk and added a htaccess password restriction on the area, but I was in no way involved with earnbypoint's extremely unsecure enviroment."[/quoteec4af9a7e0]
phorty
25-11-2005 15:50:00
stick a fork in him,hes done . lol.
Daggoth
25-11-2005 15:59:52
As far as Im concerned, someone has my password to paypal so Im changing it until further notice.
shamash
25-11-2005 15:59:58
... Seriously, how little of a life can Goofy have? I guess he's just trying to ruin my rep?
My paypal account is not on hold, and none of that is true. I just bought something with paypal this morning.
[quotefc43452b3e]Premier Account Overview — United States
Name Jordan Grelewicz
email= email=shamash@gmail.comshamash@gmail.com email=shamash@gmail.comshamash@gmail.com/email (Add email)
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Balance $0.00 USD
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File Type To/From Name/Email Date Status Details Action Amount Fee
Payment To christine poon Nov. 25, 2005 Completed Details -$33.99 USD $0.00 USD
Transfer From Bank Account Nov. 25, 2005 Completed Details $33.99 USD $0.00 USD[/quotefc43452b3e]
Seriously, goofy has no life.
shamash
25-11-2005 16:02:04
BTW Deadaim convos are all stored in a certain file, with HTML, and are easily editable.
ajrock2000
25-11-2005 16:02:38
Those convos are damning evidence. lol
Ahh, this thread is so entertaining.
I wonder how the people who defended Goofy til death do them part feel about this.
justinag06
25-11-2005 16:07:12
[quote8e3ef8f1a5="shamash"]BTW Deadaim convos are all stored in a certain file, with HTML, and are easily editable.[/quote8e3ef8f1a5]
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He gave me the image fairly quick, about 3 min after I requested it. Not trying to play judge, just messenger
shamash
25-11-2005 16:10:06
well he pasted those faux conversations to you too, so i'm guessing he saved them?
i don't care, he's obviously full of shit. my paypal account is NOT frozen or on hold or anything, he's a moron and i seriously don't care.
if i wanted to steal your paypal accounts, i wouldn't have given all of the information to admin and told you to change your passwords, i would have stolen your shit. it seriously makes no sense..
justinag06
25-11-2005 16:14:00
[quote2469e3c7e7="shamash"]well he pasted those faux conversations to you too, so i'm guessing he saved them?
i don't care, he's obviously full of shit. my paypal account is NOT frozen or on hold or anything, he's a moron and i seriously don't care.
if i wanted to steal your paypal accounts, i wouldn't have given all of the information to admin and told you to change your passwords, i would have stolen your shit. it seriously makes no sense..[/quote2469e3c7e7]
Yeah you are probably right, I first thought this but you could have said this to admin if you were worried about goofy ratting about you in the first place.
I don't know let the mods decide what they think is the truth.
Wolfeman
25-11-2005 16:15:04
justinag06, why was I mentioned in that convo?
justinag06
25-11-2005 16:16:06
I don't know, I guess they were looking at your paypal?
Everything I know has been posted for all to see.
Wolfeman
25-11-2005 16:17:41
Well my PayPal PW isn't the same as my EBP so I don't see how...
justinag06
25-11-2005 16:19:37
actually it looks like they are talking about hacking into paypals, and blaming it on you.
Ask shamash he was involved in the convo one way or another
ajrock2000
25-11-2005 16:23:25
I know its obvious goofy isnt totally bullshitting here. Shamash is either totally innocent or the biggest dumbass for coming here acting like a good guy expecting those convos never to surface.
dudeextrem2000
25-11-2005 16:25:47
[quote8bf55aa574="shamash"]well he pasted those faux conversations to you too, so i'm guessing he saved them?
i don't care, he's obviously full of shit. [b8bf55aa574]my paypal account is NOT frozen or on hold or anything[/b8bf55aa574], he's a moron and i seriously don't care.
if i wanted to steal your paypal accounts, i wouldn't have given all of the information to admin and told you to change your passwords, i would have stolen your shit. it seriously makes no sense..[/quote8bf55aa574]
to prove this will you send me 25.00 dollars via paypal? thanks!
shamash
25-11-2005 16:33:17
ahahaha. send me $1 and i'll refund it, if you want.
Daggoth
25-11-2005 16:36:06
[quote67cc565184="Veek"]I wonder how the people who defended Goofy til death do them part feel about this.[/quote67cc565184]
As you can see, most of my arguing was for debating purposes. Another thing, there is no clear troublemaker in this situation. Since Shamash is the only person who is able to post, you are only hearing one side of the story. If Goofy was able to post, you would hear the other side.
ilanbg
25-11-2005 17:00:06
As far as I'm concerned, EBP is a scam, and goof fucked up big time.
noobert
25-11-2005 17:46:35
we are such a scam for shipping 7K in orders..... Goofy hacked both FIPG and EBP, action has already been taken....
noobert
25-11-2005 17:51:35
I had it with this whole thing. Everything was going good till goofy decided to tarnish our names and has his way witha couple of FIPG people. Seriously guys, if any happened let me know and give Ismar and me proof. I got the SOB's info, and since his dad is a lawyer I am sure he would like to hear this....
shamash
25-11-2005 17:53:25
If his dad was really a lawyer, why would he need free ipods? I'm guessing he was lying about that.
noobert
25-11-2005 17:55:50
As we have just learned things are not what they seem.... I am not trusting anyone anymore even if they say something straight to my face. I just had enough. If i hear anymore about this i will be calling like there is no tomorrow. I am sure his father would like the chance to combad lawsuits. Like I said he has been warned. Nothing has happened to any account yet whatsoever if it does well.... Consquences will be faced by him.
ilanbg
25-11-2005 18:23:02
[quoteb82f94734c="noobert"]I had it with this whole thing. Everything was going good till goofy decided to tarnish our names and has his way witha couple of FIPG people. Seriously guys, if any happened let me know and give Ismar and me proof. I got the SOB's info, and since his dad is a lawyer I am sure he would like to hear this....[/quoteb82f94734c]
Um, not exactly. I for one had already decided to avoid your network like the plague, due to Ismar acting like a total fucking idiot.
Sounds like a complete purge of your staff is in order.
noobert
25-11-2005 18:25:59
[quote22bbf6be9f="ilanbg"][quote22bbf6be9f="noobert"]I had it with this whole thing. Everything was going good till goofy decided to tarnish our names and has his way witha couple of FIPG people. Seriously guys, if any happened let me know and give Ismar and me proof. I got the SOB's info, and since his dad is a lawyer I am sure he would like to hear this....[/quote22bbf6be9f]
Um, not exactly. I for one had already decided to avoid your network like the plague, due to Ismar acting like a total fucking idiot.
Sounds like a complete purge of your staff is in order.[/quote22bbf6be9f]
Quite frankly your not well liked either concidering your karma is pretty darn low.....
Strike
25-11-2005 18:26:48
Is goofy perma banned?
noobert
25-11-2005 18:28:55
[quotecf7e843735="Strike"]Is goofy perma banned?[/quotecf7e843735]
yup and he deserves everything that's coming to him.
agroman
25-11-2005 18:33:31
[quotee6088565dd="noobert"][quotee6088565dd="Strike"]Is goofy perma banned?[/quotee6088565dd]
yup and he deserves everything that's coming to him.[/quotee6088565dd]
I hope this guy casts a hex on him!!! MUAHAHAHA!
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ilanbg
25-11-2005 18:35:58
[quote3516362ac1="noobert"][quote3516362ac1="ilanbg"][quote3516362ac1="noobert"]I had it with this whole thing. Everything was going good till goofy decided to tarnish our names and has his way witha couple of FIPG people. Seriously guys, if any happened let me know and give Ismar and me proof. I got the SOB's info, and since his dad is a lawyer I am sure he would like to hear this....[/quote3516362ac1]
Um, not exactly. I for one had already decided to avoid your network like the plague, due to Ismar acting like a total fucking idiot.
Sounds like a complete purge of your staff is in order.[/quote3516362ac1]
Quite frankly your not well liked either concidering your karma is pretty darn low.....[/quote3516362ac1]
Considering I put a link to negate my karma as an example of how annoying it was in
this thread[=http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=25332&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=karma]this thread, I'd say that's even less of a rebuttal than it was before.
Apparently karma details someones personality 100%. shock
noobert
25-11-2005 19:00:12
[quote195b2b6184="ilanbg"][quote195b2b6184="noobert"][quote195b2b6184="ilanbg"][quote195b2b6184="noobert"]I had it with this whole thing. Everything was going good till goofy decided to tarnish our names and has his way witha couple of FIPG people. Seriously guys, if any happened let me know and give Ismar and me proof. I got the SOB's info, and since his dad is a lawyer I am sure he would like to hear this....[/quote195b2b6184]
Um, not exactly. I for one had already decided to avoid your network like the plague, due to Ismar acting like a total fucking idiot.
Sounds like a complete purge of your staff is in order.[/quote195b2b6184]
Quite frankly your not well liked either concidering your karma is pretty darn low.....[/quote195b2b6184]
Considering I put a link to negate my karma as an example of how annoying it was in
this thread[=http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=25332&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=karma]this thread, I'd say that's even less of a rebuttal than it was before.[/quote195b2b6184]
Good idea....
Admin
25-11-2005 19:18:44
noobert, i'm going to spell this out for you.
EBP left the admin side of the site wide open for an extended period of time. if I have a copy of the data, anyone could. this constitutes a severe breach of privacy and shows a complete lack of common sense on the part of EBP administration. add to this the fact that you still haven't publicly acknowledged the problem or apologized to the users and you have a pretty shitty situation.
second, the above events occurred regardless of your sending out $7000 in gifts. who cares how much you send out if you cant even be bothered to put a fucking htaccess password on your admin panel?
finally, this is not 'tarnishing your good name'. this is stating the facts. neither you nor ismar has acknowleged your parts in this. instead, you choose to point fingers at everyone else when the real issue is your repeated tendency to make poor administrative decisions.
phorty
25-11-2005 19:33:29
nicely put . BTW are you really 19? or should i take that with a grain of salt too?
ilanbg
25-11-2005 19:39:21
[quote10b2042f78="noobert"][quote10b2042f78="ilanbg"][quote10b2042f78="noobert"][quote10b2042f78="ilanbg"][quote10b2042f78="noobert"]I had it with this whole thing. Everything was going good till goofy decided to tarnish our names and has his way witha couple of FIPG people. Seriously guys, if any happened let me know and give Ismar and me proof. I got the SOB's info, and since his dad is a lawyer I am sure he would like to hear this....[/quote10b2042f78]
Um, not exactly. I for one had already decided to avoid your network like the plague, due to Ismar acting like a total fucking idiot.
Sounds like a complete purge of your staff is in order.[/quote10b2042f78]
Quite frankly your not well liked either concidering your karma is pretty darn low.....[/quote10b2042f78]
Considering I put a link to negate my karma as an example of how annoying it was in
this thread[=http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=25332&start=0&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=karma]this thread, I'd say that's even less of a rebuttal than it was before.[/quote10b2042f78]
Good idea....[/quote10b2042f78]
Your replies are a good example of how unprofessional the entire EBP company is run. roll
dudeextrem2000
25-11-2005 20:55:22
i see a lock comining lock
agroman
25-11-2005 21:01:20
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Daggoth
25-11-2005 21:15:38
[quote1e7c00f5a9="shamash"]If his dad was really a lawyer, why would he need free ipods? I'm guessing he was lying about that.[/quote1e7c00f5a9]
My dad is a physician, yet I am still doing this freeipod junk...
Also, all 14 year olds are not as immature as Goofy. I am 14, and I might be immature, but not that much...
phorty
25-11-2005 21:18:56
Exactly. Im a mortgage broker , cash is not an issue but if you can get something for free, than why not?
Wolfeman
25-11-2005 21:20:34
[quoteaacb5d3420="phorty"]Exactly. Im a mortgage broker , cash is not an issue but if you can get something for free, than why not?[/quoteaacb5d3420]
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Automag389
25-11-2005 21:54:46
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Gigante
25-11-2005 22:04:26
Well since apparently my account was accessed, and I live in California, Where is my email warning me of such things? Your company as a whole could be legally persued if someone wished because you did not warn people of this breach. It is common practice not just to tell people in California, but everywhere since you already have to tell some. EBP is acting very unprofessional on this entire thing.
Automag389
26-11-2005 08:47:51
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Can't we all just get along?
As far as I know, the only one to blame here is goofy for stealing people's passwords when he was supposed to be working on EBP. In his argument he said that "I decided this was way too much of a risk and added a htaccess password on the [admin] area". The problem is that he never gave this password to any of the EBP admins, let alone he had no right to place an htaccess password there in the first place (not to mention that there was already one up there; goofy took it down and put up his own). Why are you guys all of a sudden saying "EBP is a scam" or "I'm avoiding EBP at all costs"? EBP is by no means a scam, several of my friends and I have received gifts from EBP with no problems. Why avoid doing the site if it's way more secure than before goofy hacked it? He didn't get every single EBP member's password and he's not running rampant with those people's paypal accounts, so why avoid doing the site? And as for IsMar's alleged "unprofessionalism", the way he posts here is a result of his heritage; he's Bosnian. He probably has a thick accent and the way he posts here is most likely the way he talks.
noobert
26-11-2005 08:49:28
[quote718efef450="Automag389"]
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Can't we all just get along?
As far as I know, the only one to blame here is goofy for stealing people's passwords when he was supposed to be working on EBP. In his argument he said that "I decided this was way too much of a risk and added a htaccess password on the [admin] area". The problem is that he never gave this password to any of the EBP admins, let alone he had no right to place an htaccess password there in the first place (not to mention that there was already one up there; goofy took it down and put up his own). Why are you guys all of a sudden saying "EBP is a scam" or "I'm avoiding EBP at all costs"? EBP is by no means a scam, several of my friends and I have received gifts from EBP with no problems. Why avoid doing the site if it's way more secure than before goofy hacked it? He didn't get every single EBP member's password and he's not running rampant with those people's paypal accounts, so why avoid doing the site? And as for IsMar's alleged "unprofessionalism", the way he posts here is a result of his heritage; he's Bosnian. He probably has a thick accent and the way he posts here is most likely the way he talks.[/quote718efef450]
Yes that's 100% accurate. Somehow I don't think they care about getting along.
Anyone who hires a 14 year old and gets fucked over should expect everyone to be pissed and claim whatever they want about the site.
I think you guys have the right to try to defend your little website, but don't be pissed off that people don't want to work on your site or label it as a scam because, as we all know, you guys decided it would be good to hire an immature kid to handle it. I think you guys should have seen it coming.
noobert
26-11-2005 09:00:36
[quote5e83ce354e="Veek"]Anyone who hires a 14 year old and gets fucked over should expect everyone to be pissed and claim whatever they want about the site.
I think you guys have the right to try to defend your little website, but don't be pissed off that people don't want to work on your site or label it as a scam because, as we all know, you guys decided it would be good to hire an immature kid to handle it. I think you guys should have seen it coming.[/quote5e83ce354e]
seen it coming? He was supposed to be older..... If we knew he was 14 he would not be hired.... He was acting highly professional when we hired him. And I still don't see the connection to being a scam and having somone mess around with your site unknowningly. That has nothing to do with us not being legit....
noobert
26-11-2005 09:01:49
and second of all who says he is 14? Just because shamash said he's 14 that means he is 14?
Then I recommend you do your research better next time. ;)
So I've seen people claiming that they will be taking "action." Has any action been taken?
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[quote5fe7d15ea0="noobert"]and second of all who says he is 14? Just because shamash said he's 14 that means he is 14?[/quote5fe7d15ea0]
Exactly. D If you think goofy is older because he was acting "professional," is he really older?
noobert
26-11-2005 09:05:14
[quote20dc356d3e="Veek"]Then I recommend you do your research better next time. ;)
So I've seen people claiming that they will be taking "action." Has any action been taken?[/quote20dc356d3e]
research, I perfectly know what is happening. Nothing has happened to anyone's paypal or anything at all. And as for action it has been taking all ready and more is coming if necessary.....
JOSHBOX
26-11-2005 09:05:47
if I could I would change my vote, i didnt know he was taking passwords.
noobert
26-11-2005 09:06:34
[quotef12d015aeb="JOSHBOX"]if I could I would change my vote, i didnt know he was taking passwords.[/quotef12d015aeb]
josh he is permanently banned for what he did anyway.
Automag389
26-11-2005 09:15:51
[quote66bdaa77fc="Veek"]Anyone who hires a 14 year old and gets fucked over should expect everyone to be pissed and claim whatever they want about the site.
I think you guys have the right to try to defend your little website, but don't be pissed off that people don't want to work on your site or label it as a scam because, as we all know, you guys decided it would be good to hire an immature kid to handle it. [b66bdaa77fc]I think you guys should have seen it coming.[/b66bdaa77fc][/quote66bdaa77fc]
How would they have seen it coming? If they couldn't talk to goofy or see him in person then how would they know he was 14, if he really is that young? Also, have you ever seen goofy act immature? I haven't. The only clue to that is him hacking FIPG and stealing passwords from EBP. Conversationally, he isn't immature at all. At least when I talked with him.
shamash
26-11-2005 09:26:53
[quote56739d39f0]taylor wilsdon do you have a myspace?
me yeah
taylor wilsdon =O
taylor wilsdon http//www.myspace.com/lollerskater
taylor wilsdon I nailed a good url
me http//www.myspace.com/shamash
me i mailed the one i use often P
me nailedli
taylor wilsdon haha
taylor wilsdon you're not 16
me yes i am
taylor wilsdon crazy
taylor wilsdon you look way older
me but you're quite obviously 14
me p
me no offense
taylor wilsdon haha -D
taylor wilsdon its all good
taylor wilsdon i'm way taller than most poeple think tho[/quote56739d39f0]
then a bit later after he talks about his girlfriend..
[quote56739d39f0]me go back to middle school
me oh wait
me you're already there
taylor wilsdon =(
taylor wilsdon freshman fool
me freshmen are allowe to be 14?
me god
me seriously
taylor wilsdon i'm a year up
taylor wilsdon 'cuz i'm smart.
me people hate freshmen more than they hate middle schoolers
taylor wilsdon everyone i hang out with is 15-16
taylor wilsdon i know ;(
taylor wilsdon but its cool because ill be driving
taylor wilsdon JUNIOR YEAR
taylor wilsdon FUCK[/quote56739d39f0]
What I meant by, "they should have seen it coming," is that they should have noticed Goofy's stupidity and not hired him.
And yes, frankly, I've read Goofy act like a complete moron around these boards. He's the only one I've noticed act so stupid towards the new people, or people who ask simple questions. He'd throw around "fag" comments all around. Ever wonder why he earned his cute title "True Homosexual?" I gave it to him, to teach him a lesson about labeling other people gay using offensive slang. That's the reason I disliked him, and I have absolutely no problem with anyone else on these boards. Why? Let's just say I haven't came accross someone at his level.
I have an eye doctors appointment. Be back later.
justinag06
26-11-2005 09:28:15
Not to rile this up, but does no one find it suspicious that shamash's logs are text with ME instead of his IM name, yet goofy has photo's of his deadaim. Also shamash never denied goofy's logs, or showed the true ones to prove they weren't fakes.
Most of you are missing the point, goofy didn't break in when he was working on the website.
ANYONE COULD HAVE BROKEN IN[/sizef59130f3af]
They had their passwords in a text file so just anyone could read them.
noobert
26-11-2005 09:28:24
I don't even know if those logs are true, but if they are little good that does now once everything happened.
noobert
26-11-2005 09:29:39
[quote7d6aa043da="justinag06"]Not to rile this up, but does no one find it suspicious that shamash's logs are text with ME instead of his IM name, yet goofy has photo's of his deadaim. Also shamash never denied goofy's logs, or showed the true ones to prove they weren't fakes.
Most of you are missing the point, goofy didn't break in when he was working on the website.
ANYONE COULD HAVE BROKEN IN[/size7d6aa043da]
They had their passwords in a text file so just anyone could read them.[/quote7d6aa043da]
Bullshit, the passwords weren't in plain text...... He took off our password and set his own up....
Automag389
26-11-2005 09:30:16
[quote7ead34e243="shamash"][quote7ead34e243]taylor wilsdon do you have a myspace?
me yeah
taylor wilsdon =O
taylor wilsdon http//www.myspace.com/lollerskater
taylor wilsdon I nailed a good url
me http//www.myspace.com/shamash
me i mailed the one i use often P
me nailedli
taylor wilsdon haha
taylor wilsdon you're not 16
me yes i am
taylor wilsdon crazy
taylor wilsdon you look way older
me but you're quite obviously 14
me p
me no offense
taylor wilsdon haha -D
taylor wilsdon its all good
taylor wilsdon i'm way taller than most poeple think tho[/quote7ead34e243]
then a bit later after he talks about his girlfriend..
[quote7ead34e243]me go back to middle school
me oh wait
me you're already there
taylor wilsdon =(
taylor wilsdon freshman fool
me freshmen are allowe to be 14?
me god
me seriously
taylor wilsdon i'm a year up
taylor wilsdon 'cuz i'm smart.
me people hate freshmen more than they hate middle schoolers
taylor wilsdon everyone i hang out with is 15-16
taylor wilsdon i know ;(
taylor wilsdon but its cool because ill be driving
taylor wilsdon JUNIOR YEAR
taylor wilsdon FUCK[/quote7ead34e243][/quote7ead34e243]
That's incredibly easy to edit...
estimulos
26-11-2005 09:30:29
[quote0320070c36="noobert"][quote0320070c36="Veek"]Then I recommend you do your research better next time. ;)
So I've seen people claiming that they will be taking "action." Has any action been taken?[/quote0320070c36]
research, I perfectly know what is happening. Nothing has happened to anyone's paypal or anything at all. And as for action it has been taking all ready and more is coming if necessary.....[/quote0320070c36]
Firstly, will you stop repeating that shit...it's pretty annoying.
Goofy has everyone's passwords from the EBP site, Admin has gotten them so who knows who else might have accessed them aswell. And as Admin stated not every member of EBP is a member of FIPG, or will even see this post.
So we have a problem - if people use the same password for Paypal or whatever else as they did for the EBP site, their account might be accessed.
Who gives a shit if nothing has happened to anyone's account 'yet'. Do you think whoever has the passwords would immediately start using them? No, the real problem could be in 2 weeks, 2 months, 6 months, whenever - when this issue is long forgotten and someone's Paypal gets fucked.
Will you take reponsibility then? Nope.
And you still haven't apologised for all of this.
Secondly, the claims of the site being a Scam are not linked to this whole goofy issue, they are seperate claims from other individuals who either themselves, or their friends, have not gotten credit for the offers they claim to have done. Read the fuckin posts people have made. Although the issues aren't linked, why not put them in this thread for everyone to see.
Have a good day.
noobert
26-11-2005 09:32:55
you are a big idiot my friend. People get credit for offers they do not what they claim to do. And second of all action has been taken, and I am not telling what has been done exactly because you don't need to know.....
Gigante
26-11-2005 09:34:50
EBP is attempting to blame all of their troubles on Goofy. Do you guys run a website and never talk over the phone (if you don't live in the same town)?
Also, Goofy is VERY immature? Have you seen his posts? I posted a post pointing out something and his response included Fuck and Faggot.
noobert
26-11-2005 09:37:05
[quote25d5f62848="Gigante"]EBP is attempting to blame all of their troubles on Goofy. Do you guys run a website and never talk over the phone (if you don't live in the same town)?
Also, Goofy is VERY immature? Have you seen his posts? I posted a post pointing out something and his response included Fuck and Faggot.[/quote25d5f62848]
Finding that out after he he took off our admin password and set his own up is a little too late..... Talk over the phone and live near each other.... all the time.....
Gigante
26-11-2005 09:39:37
I think people deserve to know what action has been taken since it was OUR info he accessed, not yours. The point about people not on FIPG being in danger hits the nail ON THE HEAD. Has an email been sent out telling all of your members that their Paypal's and any other accounts are in danger because of EBP's inability to keep track of their employees.
An employer can never blame a program on an employee. When citi bank gets their servers accessed by a hacker, do you see them say "You guys, it isn't our fault. We had this new IT guy and he let the people in". No. Why? Because everybody would lose their faith in them and they company would be using the person as a scapegoat.
shamash
26-11-2005 09:40:04
Why would I make that log up? Look at his damn myspace, you can see that he's 14.
And download Google Desktop Search. They use "me" instead of your screenname in the logs.
Deadaim logs are all easily changable because they're stored in a chosable location in regular HTML form. They can be edited, and seen edited in the log manager. Deadaim is also shit which I don't use.
estimulos
26-11-2005 09:40:12
[quote5cbe91d0c2="noobert"]you are a big idiot my friend. People get credit for offers they do not what they claim to do. And second of all action has been taken, and I am not telling what has been done exactly because you don't need to know.....[/quote5cbe91d0c2]
Sorry, I don't see in my post where I claim people get credit for offers they claim to do, so stop being a prick.
I'm pointing out to you, because you're so defensive about EBP, that the two issues aren't related. Earlier on you posted you don't know why after all this Goofy shit people start labelling the site a scam.....well they didn't. People called it a scam before, because they didn't get credit. Other people now say they won't do the site because of the security issues, two separate issues. Got it?
I don't know if those who posted deserve credit or not, just don't try and be defensive about two separate issues and hide one behind the other when both are detrimental to your sites rep.
Gigante
26-11-2005 09:41:06
By not sending a mass email, you are asking for trouble. If people's accounts are accessed in the future, you could be held respondible.
noobert
26-11-2005 09:42:52
[quote8fabff0650="Gigante"]By not sending a mass email, you are asking for trouble. If people's accounts are accessed in the future, you could be held respondible.[/quote8fabff0650]
It was the holiday and i have my own personal issues that are being worked on as well. All this is being taken care of.
shamash
26-11-2005 09:44:25
So let's use a bank again. Say Bank of America gets hacked into on Thanksgiving. Do they say, "Sorry, we're not working til Monday," and have you wait to have your security restored?
Fugger
26-11-2005 09:45:36
[quote4caade9be5="noobert"]Bullshit, the passwords weren't in plain text...... He took off our password and set his own up....[/quote4caade9be5]
Okay... So what if I said that I said that was a lie and could produce screenshots, similar to what Admin posted earler, that showed passwords were in plain text at the time the interface was wide open for anyone to view?
noobert
26-11-2005 09:46:16
[quoteae0e90d261="shamash"]So let's use a bank again. Say Bank of America gets hacked into on Thanksgiving. Do they say, "Sorry, we're not working til Monday," and have you wait to have your security restored?[/quoteae0e90d261]
Will you be quiet.... You are not even fully aware of what happened. You don't even know what is happening with my personal life. I said things are being taken care of........
shamash
26-11-2005 09:47:30
Well, I know that EBP has pulled the personal life card many times.
"You'll get your credit soon, Ismar got in a car accident."
"You'll get credit soon, Ismar is having problems with his personal life."
Your personal life means jack shit when you're running a business, sorry.
shamash
26-11-2005 09:48:13
And I thought you weren't even working for Ismar anymore? Why are you in such a fuss?
Your personal life doesn't have anything to do with EBP if you aren't working for them.
noobert
26-11-2005 09:50:18
[quote7c55ef38fb="shamash"]And I thought you weren't even working for Ismar anymore? Why are you in such a fuss?
Your personal life doesn't have anything to do with EBP if you aren't working for them.[/quote7c55ef38fb]
Once again you know nothing.. personal matters shamash. You just don't understand.... Second of all, i wasn't and now maybe I am? I said things are being worked on and you just keep adding these useless tid bits...
Fugger
26-11-2005 09:51:04
but what about the passwords being store and accessable in plain text?
Automag389
26-11-2005 09:52:07
[quote51c000d616="shamash"]So let's use a bank again. Say Bank of America gets hacked into on Thanksgiving. Do they say, "Sorry, we're not working til Monday," and have you wait to have your security restored?[/quote51c000d616]
Not being open because of weekends and holidays is different from personal issues. Also, personal issues differ from a personal life.
noobert
26-11-2005 09:52:11
[quote34b92f27f7="Fugger"][quote34b92f27f7="noobert"]Bullshit, the passwords weren't in plain text...... He took off our password and set his own up....[/quote34b92f27f7]
Okay... So what if I said that I said that was a lie and could produce screenshots, similar to what Admin posted earler, that showed passwords were in plain text at the time the interface was wide open for anyone to view?[/quote34b92f27f7]
Interface wasn't wide open for anyone to view till he made it. Right now I am making calls and such regarding the situation. And getting ready to enforce additional measures.
Fugger
26-11-2005 09:53:51
[quote1c2c07a251="noobert"][quote1c2c07a251="Fugger"][quote1c2c07a251="noobert"]Bullshit, the passwords weren't in plain text...... He took off our password and set his own up....[/quote1c2c07a251]
Okay... So what if I said that I said that was a lie and could produce screenshots, similar to what Admin posted earler, that showed passwords were in plain text at the time the interface was wide open for anyone to view?[/quote1c2c07a251]
Interface wasn't wide open for anyone to view till he made it. Right now I am making calls and such regarding the situation. And getting ready to enforce additional measures.[/quote1c2c07a251]
Okay, well you said the passwords weren't store in plain text and they clearly were. Unless when he also cracked open the admin interface he also was able to crack everyones password just by visiting the unprotected admin interface.
justinag06
26-11-2005 09:54:10
[quoteb482e4afa4]taylor wilsdon (54058 PM) "When I started working on crediting for earnbypoints, they were coming off a unsuccessful conversion to another script. I offered to help him with crediting, and we began working. The admin area on his site was entirely unsecure, it had no password and all the files were wide open html documents. He left no protection to any users personal data, and a simple guess could grant anyone, anywhere, access to private information and access to records. Eventually, I decided this was too much of a risk and added a htaccess password restriction on the area, but I was in no way involved with earnbypoint's extremely unsecure enviroment."[/quoteb482e4afa4]
is any, all or none of this true noobert?
noobert
26-11-2005 09:55:25
The part where he said he added his own password to it. He took our password off and set up his own and had his way with the admin panel.
Fugger
26-11-2005 09:57:04
Well the passwords would have had to been stored in clear text for me to be able to see them when I looked at the admin interface. I entered the site, clicked my username and saw my password. Now, you tell me how that is not clear text storage of passwords.
justinag06
26-11-2005 09:57:18
[quotec60f99f7da]The admin area on his site was entirely unsecure, it had no password and all the files were wide open html documents[/quotec60f99f7da]
so that is a lie?
Fugger
26-11-2005 10:02:23
So have we agreed that the passwords were indeed stored in plain text?
noobert
26-11-2005 10:03:27
[quote549a4d88de="justinag06"][quote549a4d88de]The admin area on his site was entirely unsecure, it had no password and all the files were wide open html documents[/quote549a4d88de]
so that is a lie?[/quote549a4d88de]
That is definately fabricated. I just called ismar and he will post about the situation when he comes back. Not too mention this script we had was bought for a lot of money and was supposed to be better enabled for automatic crediting. I will be back later. I have to make some calls and get things done.
Fugger
26-11-2005 10:06:12
And still no response about the passwords being stored in plain text. Oh well. I guess no one really cares about it.
justinag06
26-11-2005 10:08:19
There are too many people implicated in this, and too many unanswered questions.
I'm just glad my passwords weren't availible on the site
Fugger
26-11-2005 10:10:19
[quote6865f6ff30="justinag06"]There are too many people implicated in this, and too many unanswered questions.
I'm just glad my passwords weren't availible on the site[/quote6865f6ff30]
What was your username?
justinag06
26-11-2005 10:14:17
I'm not even a member of the site.
Fugger
26-11-2005 10:15:20
Ahhhhh well that would explain why your password wasn't stored in plain text like every other password on the site.
Do you think I could say 'password stored in plain text' any more times in my posts? Should I try?
kevxross
26-11-2005 10:22:44
Why is this such a long discussion? Everyone who was unfortunate enough to have participated in EBP in the first place, just change all your passwords on sites that are important to you if you used the same password on EBP. End of discussion.
EBP dies the death it deserves and everyone moves on with their life. Why is there any reason to even argue it anymore?
Fugger
26-11-2005 10:30:13
[quote7d03fc38d3="kevxross"]Why is this such a long discussion? Everyone who was unfortunate enough to have participated in EBP in the first place, just change all your passwords on sites that are important to you if you used the same password on EBP. End of discussion.
EBP dies the death it deserves and everyone moves on with their life. Why is there any reason to even argue it anymore?[/quote7d03fc38d3]
I've been upset on and off over this... And with him stating that passwords were not stored in plain text just gets me all rialed up again because it is a complete lie that he hasn't even attempted to answer. That, and I want to expose some passwords to freak people out.
noobert
26-11-2005 10:53:46
[quotec44314c43b="Fugger"][quotec44314c43b="kevxross"]Why is this such a long discussion? Everyone who was unfortunate enough to have participated in EBP in the first place, just change all your passwords on sites that are important to you if you used the same password on EBP. End of discussion.
EBP dies the death it deserves and everyone moves on with their life. Why is there any reason to even argue it anymore?[/quotec44314c43b]
I've been upset on and off over this... And with him stating that passwords were not stored in plain text just gets me all rialed up again because it is a complete lie that he hasn't even attempted to answer. That, and I want to expose some passwords to freak people out.[/quotec44314c43b]
We are working on the issue and Ismar will answer you soon enough. I am not a professional website desginer or coder so i am unaware with some of this. Ismar will be able to give you an appropriate answer if you feel mine wasn't appropriate.
Fugger
26-11-2005 10:57:11
[quotec88f9e00d8="noobert"]We are working on the issue and Ismar will answer you soon enough. I am not a professional website desginer or coder so i am unaware with some of this. Ismar will be able to give you an appropriate answer if you feel mine wasn't appropriate.[/quotec88f9e00d8]
Okay. Well, the admin pannel is protected [bc88f9e00d8]now[/bc88f9e00d8]. However [bc88f9e00d8]then[/bc88f9e00d8], when it was not protected, the passwords were stored in plain text. I'm just looking for someone to acknowledge that. Just want to make sure that everyone knows that their information was not just viewable by goofy but by [bc88f9e00d8]anyone[/bc88f9e00d8] who looked at the [bc88f9e00d8]then[/bc88f9e00d8] unprotected admin panel.
EBPIsMaR
26-11-2005 11:10:01
[quote7ce76490d8="Fugger"][quote7ce76490d8="kevxross"]Why is this such a long discussion? Everyone who was unfortunate enough to have participated in EBP in the first place, just change all your passwords on sites that are important to you if you used the same password on EBP. End of discussion.
EBP dies the death it deserves and everyone moves on with their life. Why is there any reason to even argue it anymore?[/quote7ce76490d8]
I've been upset on and off over this... And with him stating that passwords were not stored in plain text just gets me all rialed up again because it is a complete lie that he hasn't even attempted to answer. That, and I want to expose some passwords to freak people out.[/quote7ce76490d8]
the admin area was pass protected and wasn't even used. i used mysql database for updating credits and such. When he got the password to my server he opened up admin area wide open and showed that to shasman or whatever his name is. I'm really sorry about this, i can see where you're coming from, but you have to understand that there is nothing i could do about it since i didn't even know what was going on, all i was trying to do is get my automatic crediting in place, this is real tough position this guy's putting me in. Today i will be switching to MyEasyScripts.com script for EBP and sending out mass email to everyone in database to make sure to change their passwords. Thats all i can say man I am really sorry about this but I am really trying to run a legit business here and someone like this comes by and does this. I am really sorry, thats all I can say, I should'nt of trusted someone like this so quickly.
Fugger
26-11-2005 11:31:36
Okay... So it is true (well i already know it is) that passwords were stored in plain.
Also, for anyone interested. goofy contacted me. log here.
http//www.stunod7.com/taylor_wilsdon.txt
EBPIsMaR
26-11-2005 11:44:51
[quote9cfc84b147="Fugger"]Okay... So it is true (well i already know it is) that passwords were stored in plain.
Also, for anyone interested. goofy contacted me. log here.
http//www.stunod7.com/taylor_wilsdon.txt[/quote9cfc84b147]
ok so even if it was unprotected... but it was...
how can one even access something when they dont even know where it is? goofy exposed eveything to shamash by trying to show off. thats it. and if this is not true, then ask shamash about my publisher numbers, goofy even told him that, and shamash AIMed me with that info, how could of he knew that?
This thread is going crazy. I hope you guys are taking some kind of action towards the goof.
shamash
26-11-2005 11:59:05
I didn't do this because EBP wasn't paying me, I was doing it because of the security of the site. I knew EBP wasn't going to pay me.
If I really wanted money, I could have used the admin panel to give myself points. However, I'm a bit more honest than that.
EBPIsMaR
26-11-2005 12:16:49
[quoteb796670575="shamash"]I didn't do this because EBP wasn't paying me, I was doing it because of the security of the site. I knew EBP wasn't going to pay me.
If I really wanted money, I could have used the admin panel to give myself points. However, I'm a bit more honest than that.[/quoteb796670575]
the security of the site? are you serious? thats not what you told me on AIM. on aim you told me that i shouldnt trust goofy because he is continously AIMed you with information, and opened up admin panel to you. He also gave you info on my publisher and promised you my snn, bank accounts, etc... thats what you told me. As for the site points, i cant give out points that were never credited to me.
shamash
26-11-2005 12:40:16
I told you about Goofy because he was lying to you. I told the Admin about the security errors so people wouldn't be fucked with. I'm not talking abuot the points, thats Goofy's excuse for me "makin things up".
EBPIsMaR
26-11-2005 13:04:38
[quotec2819c1dfc="shamash"]I told you about Goofy because he was lying to you. I told the FIpg Admin about the security errors so people wouldn't be fucked with. I'm not talking abuot the points, thats Goofy's excuse for me "makin things up".[/quotec2819c1dfc]oh so thats how admin got the access... yeah of course it was un-secured... goofy remove the pass protection to show you, you gave the link to the admin section. NOW, even if the area wasnt pass protected, how would anybody be able to guess those links, or even whats in there. That was through you of course. Goofy showed you the link to show off, you gave the to admin for whatever reason. thats the buttom line.
Admin
26-11-2005 13:11:46
[quotec49c09a890="EBPIsMaR"]the admin area was pass protected and wasn't even used. i used mysql database for updating credits and such. When he got the password to my server he opened up admin area wide open and showed that to shasman or whatever his name is. I'm really sorry about this, i can see where you're coming from, but you have to understand that there is nothing i could do about it since i didn't even know what was going on, all i was trying to do is get my automatic crediting in place, this is real tough position this guy's putting me in. Today i will be switching to MyEasyScripts.com script for EBP and sending out mass email to everyone in database to make sure to change their passwords. Thats all i can say man I am really sorry about this but I am really trying to run a legit business here and someone like this comes by and does this. I am really sorry, thats all I can say, I should'nt of trusted someone like this so quickly.[/quotec49c09a890]
This is bullshit. ITS YOUR BUSINESS AND YOUR BUSINESS DECISIONS THAT BROUGHT YOU TO THIS POINT. You need to step up and acknowledge that YOU FUCKED UP REPEATEDLY. Here's how
-Storing passwords without using a trapdoor function on them first
-You're "trying to run a legit business here"?? If that were the case, you'd check up on someone before you gave them access to hundreds of people's information. You didn't even have goofy's age! Did you search the forum for his posts? He's so obviously a 14 year old I can't even believe you could believe otherwise.
-"all i was trying to do is get my automatic crediting in place, this is real tough position this guy's putting me in". Somehow, you're still blaming someone else for your lack of preparation and security.
[quotec49c09a890]Goofy showed you the link to show off, you gave the to admin for whatever reason. thats the buttom line.[/quotec49c09a890]
NO. THE BOTTOM LINE IS THAT REGARDLESS OF WHAT GOOFY DID, IT IS [bc49c09a890]YOUR[/bc49c09a890] SITE THAT HAD THE SECURITY BREACH AND IT IS [bc49c09a890]YOUR[/bc49c09a890] RESPONSIBILITY TO TAKE ACTION ABOUT IT. THERE IS STILL NO PUBLIC ACKNOWLEGMENT OR APOLOGY. THIS IS FUCKING ABSURD.
noobert
26-11-2005 13:14:32
[quote8eae9686c2="Admin"][quote8eae9686c2="EBPIsMaR"]the admin area was pass protected and wasn't even used. i used mysql database for updating credits and such. When he got the password to my server he opened up admin area wide open and showed that to shasman or whatever his name is. I'm really sorry about this, i can see where you're coming from, but you have to understand that there is nothing i could do about it since i didn't even know what was going on, all i was trying to do is get my automatic crediting in place, this is real tough position this guy's putting me in. Today i will be switching to MyEasyScripts.com script for EBP and sending out mass email to everyone in database to make sure to change their passwords. Thats all i can say man I am really sorry about this but I am really trying to run a legit business here and someone like this comes by and does this. I am really sorry, thats all I can say, I should'nt of trusted someone like this so quickly.[/quote8eae9686c2]
This is bullshit. ITS YOUR BUSINESS AND YOUR BUSINESS DECISIONS THAT BROUGHT YOU TO THIS POINT. You need to step up and acknowledge that YOU FUCKED UP REPEATEDLY. Here's how
-Storing passwords without using a trapdoor function on them first
-You're "trying to run a legit business here"?? If that were the case, you'd check up on someone before you gave them access to hundreds of people's information. You didn't even have goofy's age! Did you search the forum for his posts? He's so obviously a 14 year old I can't even believe you could believe otherwise.
"all i was trying to do is get my automatic crediting in place, this is real tough position this guy's putting me in". Somehow, you're still blaming someone else for your lack of preparation and security.[/quote8eae9686c2]
So what about your site being messed around with goofygarber? Was that your fault? I said it was being worked on..... You really need to relax there admin.... I can point out plenty of security flaws with your site and you know you had problems in the past.
Admin
26-11-2005 13:16:56
This isn't about me. But just to humor you
a) he only 'messed around' because he got Fugger's password (gasp) FROM EBP
b) I acknowleged the issue immediately and took that opportunity to apply patches and optimizations to my code and made everything I was doing public information. Here's the thread http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=26799&
Where have you done the same?
Please avoid attacking me and instead try reading what I post and responding. This is about EBP and you're still skirting the issue.
noobert
26-11-2005 13:18:44
[quotea076aa3565="Admin"]This isn't about me. But just to humor you
a) he only 'messed around' because he got Fugger's password (gasp) FROM EBP
b) I acknowleged the issue immediately and took that opportunity to apply patches and optimizations to my code and made everything I was doing public information. Here's the thread http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=26799&
Where have you done the same?
Please avoid attacking me and instead try reading what I post and responding. This is about EBP and you're still skirting the issue.[/quotea076aa3565]
What has been done, gee lets see there buddy. We are making a custom script, changing lots of potential risks, and making some calls. Also, working on a mass email to users....
noobert
26-11-2005 13:22:59
It's all being addressed and I don't even have to tell you what's being done about. And second of all with a custom script it takes time. We are not running a phpbb script that all it takes is 1 click to notify people. It takes a bit of work with a custom script and that's why we are addressing it. You found out you had a security flaw so you fixed it and now because all of this we have to fix many things....
Admin
26-11-2005 13:30:31
Fucking hilarious.
Here, let me help you out
[code12fb1fde20f]
<?php
//assuming you're already connected to your database
$res = mysql_query("SELECT email FROM users WHERE 1");
while($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($res))
echo $row['email'] . ", ";
?>
[/code12fb1fde20f]
Save that on your webserver, alter the sql query if you're using different table/row names, and then paste the resulting string into the "BCC" field of any mail application. Its not hard.
And for those of you still wondering about the admin panel, here's what it looked like
http//freeipodguide.com/ebp/
I, of course, deleted the cleartext passwords.
noobert
26-11-2005 13:32:43
[quotebeb9d975aa="Admin"]Fucking hilarious.
Here, let me help you out
[code1beb9d975aa]
<?php
//assuming you're already connected to your database
$res = mysql_query("SELECT email FROM users WHERE 1");
while($row = mysql_fetch_assoc($res))
echo $row['email'] . ", ";
?>
[/code1beb9d975aa]
Save that on your webserver, alter the sql query if you're using different table/row names, and then paste the resulting string into the "BCC" field of any mail application. Its not hard.[/quotebeb9d975aa]
I am not even the one sending the mass email, I am busy with other things. And second of all you have no idea what work is involved with getting a new script in place and fixing the flaws. So don't even give me that shit.
I don't even know why you're trying to go against the Admin. Clearly the Admin has been patching up/upgrading/checking his website/forum.
If you would have done the same, this wouldn't have happened, and you wouldn't have to be fixing "many things."
You guys sure are coming up as the most intelligent people on earth. And you guys STILL expect the members to feel safe with your site and expect members to act as if your site is running smoothly and not a scam.
Oh please.
noobert
26-11-2005 13:33:42
You do your little forum job and we will do our jobs. And second of all who gave you permission to post any of that?
justinag06
26-11-2005 13:34:57
Honostly guys you can't win this arguement. Just man up once and for all, and quit reading this thread.
quit while you are still ahead
...i mean before your site is done
...I mean before you're banned
[quote4f72c8148e="noobert"]You do your little forum job and we will do our jobs. And second of all who gave you permission to post any of that?[/quote4f72c8148e]
lol lol
I don't think right now is the right time to ask who has persmission to look at what. wink
EBPIsMaR
26-11-2005 13:35:06
[quoteecfa052565="Veek"]I don't even know why you're trying to go against the Admin. Clearly the Admin has been patching up/upgrading/checking his website/forum.
If you would have done the same, this wouldn't have happened, and you wouldn't have to be fixing "many things."
You guys sure are coming up as the most intelligent people on earth. And you guys STILL expect the members to feel safe with your site and expect members to act as if your site is running smoothly and not a scam.
Oh please.[/quoteecfa052565]
its easy to post up PHPBB updates, when 100s of people work on it, and its been being worked on for years... dont you think?
[quote976ac768eb="EBPIsMaR"][quote976ac768eb="Veek"]I don't even know why you're trying to go against the Admin. Clearly the Admin has been patching up/upgrading/checking his website/forum.
If you would have done the same, this wouldn't have happened, and you wouldn't have to be fixing "many things."
You guys sure are coming up as the most intelligent people on earth. And you guys STILL expect the members to feel safe with your site and expect members to act as if your site is running smoothly and not a scam.
Oh please.[/quote976ac768eb]
its easy to post up PHPBB updates, when 100s of people work on it, and its been being worked on for years... dont you think?[/quote976ac768eb]
Jesus, I can't even reply to this one.
Are you sure all of you guys are not Goofy himself? o
noobert
26-11-2005 13:37:00
Our site will be done because of being banned from a forum? ROFL....
EBPIsMaR
26-11-2005 13:39:20
[quoteb85c4a40eb="Veek"][quoteb85c4a40eb="EBPIsMaR"][quoteb85c4a40eb="Veek"]I don't even know why you're trying to go against the Admin. Clearly the Admin has been patching up/upgrading/checking his website/forum.
If you would have done the same, this wouldn't have happened, and you wouldn't have to be fixing "many things."
You guys sure are coming up as the most intelligent people on earth. And you guys STILL expect the members to feel safe with your site and expect members to act as if your site is running smoothly and not a scam.
Oh please.[/quoteb85c4a40eb]
its easy to post up PHPBB updates, when 100s of people work on it, and its been being worked on for years... dont you think?[/quoteb85c4a40eb]
Jesus, I can't even reply to this one.
Are you sure all of you guys are not Goofy himself? o[/quoteb85c4a40eb]
so thats what you say when you dont have response to something huh?
justinag06
26-11-2005 13:39:36
When you burn every bridge and decimate your entire userbase, and the means to contact them your credibility takes a massive hit.
Hope you know a thing or two about marketing
[quoted2f5794b78="EBPIsMaR"][quoted2f5794b78="Veek"][quoted2f5794b78="EBPIsMaR"][quoted2f5794b78="Veek"]I don't even know why you're trying to go against the Admin. Clearly the Admin has been patching up/upgrading/checking his website/forum.
If you would have done the same, this wouldn't have happened, and you wouldn't have to be fixing "many things."
You guys sure are coming up as the most intelligent people on earth. And you guys STILL expect the members to feel safe with your site and expect members to act as if your site is running smoothly and not a scam.
Oh please.[/quoted2f5794b78]
its easy to post up PHPBB updates, when 100s of people work on it, and its been being worked on for years... dont you think?[/quoted2f5794b78]
Jesus, I can't even reply to this one.
Are you sure all of you guys are not Goofy himself? o[/quoted2f5794b78]
so thats what you say when you dont have response to something huh?[/quoted2f5794b78]
I say a lot more when I feel I'm being challenged by an intelligent individual. wink
EBPIsMaR
26-11-2005 13:41:58
[quotef19ecf5c3e="Fugger"][quotef19ecf5c3e="noobert"]We are working on the issue and Ismar will answer you soon enough. I am not a professional website desginer or coder so i am unaware with some of this. Ismar will be able to give you an appropriate answer if you feel mine wasn't appropriate.[/quotef19ecf5c3e]
Okay. Well, the admin pannel is protected [bf19ecf5c3e]now[/bf19ecf5c3e]. However [bf19ecf5c3e]then[/bf19ecf5c3e], when it was not protected, the passwords were stored in plain text. I'm just looking for someone to acknowledge that. Just want to make sure that everyone knows that their information was not just viewable by goofy but by [bf19ecf5c3e]anyone[/bf19ecf5c3e] who looked at the [bf19ecf5c3e]then[/bf19ecf5c3e] unprotected admin panel.[/quotef19ecf5c3e]how the hell would anyone even know the url to the admin?
EBPIsMaR
26-11-2005 13:43:18
[quote39171a4230="Veek"][quote39171a4230="EBPIsMaR"][quote39171a4230="Veek"][quote39171a4230="EBPIsMaR"][quote39171a4230="Veek"]I don't even know why you're trying to go against the Admin. Clearly the Admin has been patching up/upgrading/checking his website/forum.
If you would have done the same, this wouldn't have happened, and you wouldn't have to be fixing "many things."
You guys sure are coming up as the most intelligent people on earth. And you guys STILL expect the members to feel safe with your site and expect members to act as if your site is running smoothly and not a scam.
Oh please.[/quote39171a4230]
its easy to post up PHPBB updates, when 100s of people work on it, and its been being worked on for years... dont you think?[/quote39171a4230]
Jesus, I can't even reply to this one.
Are you sure all of you guys are not Goofy himself? o[/quote39171a4230]
so thats what you say when you dont have response to something huh?[/quote39171a4230]
I say a lot more when I feel I'm being challenged by an intelligent individual. wink[/quote39171a4230]
oh so you're saying that it takes alot to update PHPBB?
btw, i gotta go eat... i wont even be responding to you anymore... o1ne
[quoted3f552d17f="EBPIsMaR"][quoted3f552d17f="Veek"][quoted3f552d17f="EBPIsMaR"][quoted3f552d17f="Veek"][quoted3f552d17f="EBPIsMaR"][quoted3f552d17f="Veek"]I don't even know why you're trying to go against the Admin. Clearly the Admin has been patching up/upgrading/checking his website/forum.
If you would have done the same, this wouldn't have happened, and you wouldn't have to be fixing "many things."
You guys sure are coming up as the most intelligent people on earth. And you guys STILL expect the members to feel safe with your site and expect members to act as if your site is running smoothly and not a scam.
Oh please.[/quoted3f552d17f]
its easy to post up PHPBB updates, when 100s of people work on it, and its been being worked on for years... dont you think?[/quoted3f552d17f]
Jesus, I can't even reply to this one.
Are you sure all of you guys are not Goofy himself? o[/quoted3f552d17f]
so thats what you say when you dont have response to something huh?[/quoted3f552d17f]
I say a lot more when I feel I'm being challenged by an intelligent individual. wink[/quoted3f552d17f]
oh so you're saying that it takes alot to update PHPBB?
btw, i gotta go eat... i wont even be responding to you anymore... o1ne[/quoted3f552d17f]
You just want to find a excuse to trail off the lack of security on your precious website.
And go eat, don't respond to my replies, wouldn't want to waste anymore time you should be taking up by letting all of your members know that your lucrative website was breached and that their info was/is there for everyone to see.
Enjoy! P
noobert
26-11-2005 13:48:43
[quoteee98cd44d2="Veek"][quoteee98cd44d2="EBPIsMaR"][quoteee98cd44d2="Veek"][quoteee98cd44d2="EBPIsMaR"][quoteee98cd44d2="Veek"][quoteee98cd44d2="EBPIsMaR"][quoteee98cd44d2="Veek"]I don't even know why you're trying to go against the Admin. Clearly the Admin has been patching up/upgrading/checking his website/forum.
If you would have done the same, this wouldn't have happened, and you wouldn't have to be fixing "many things."
You guys sure are coming up as the most intelligent people on earth. And you guys STILL expect the members to feel safe with your site and expect members to act as if your site is running smoothly and not a scam.
Oh please.[/quoteee98cd44d2]
its easy to post up PHPBB updates, when 100s of people work on it, and its been being worked on for years... dont you think?[/quoteee98cd44d2]
Jesus, I can't even reply to this one.
Are you sure all of you guys are not Goofy himself? o[/quoteee98cd44d2]
so thats what you say when you dont have response to something huh?[/quoteee98cd44d2]
I say a lot more when I feel I'm being challenged by an intelligent individual. wink[/quoteee98cd44d2]
oh so you're saying that it takes alot to update PHPBB?
btw, i gotta go eat... i wont even be responding to you anymore... o1ne[/quoteee98cd44d2]
You just want to find a excuse to trail off the lack of security on your precious website.
And go eat, don't respond to my replies, wouldn't want to waste anymore time you should be taking up by letting all of your members know that your lucrative website was breached and that their info was/is there for everyone to see.
Enjoy! P[/quoteee98cd44d2]
Bye, see you when we ship out 200k worth of gifts toast
Admin
26-11-2005 13:50:19
You're idiots. It took me about an hour to patch phpBB. I'm quick at it because I've done it many times before.
But you act like you were forced to use a ridiculously insecure script and to leave it wide open. No. You chose to use whatever shit script you're using and you chose to hire a child to work on your site. This is all your doing. When are you going to step up and take responsibility like a man? You seem just as childish as goofy.
[quotedbe18929ef="noobert"]
Bye, see you when we ship out 200k worth of gifts toast[/quotedbe18929ef]
Bye bye! See you when more scam threads are created about your website. dance
Admin
26-11-2005 13:58:21
lolololol i win
Admin
26-11-2005 14:32:56
[quotec79ea22c5b="noobert"]I am not even the one sending the mass email, I am busy with other things. And second of all you have no idea what work is involved with getting a new script in place and fixing the flaws. So don't even give me that shit.[/quotec79ea22c5b]
Just one more thing.
I'd like you to take a look at FusionCash and the trade module. Both are coded by hand from scratch by me (srichter did the initial version of the main side of FusionCash, I did all the backend and updates since then). FusionCash blows your site away in complexity. In fact, FusionCash was the first site to offer automatic crediting. Way before Mike Richardson made a huge deal out of it I'd figured it out for 6 or 7 different affiliates.
Shut the fuck up about how fucking difficult it is and just handle your business. You sound like a little child.