Need some help computer geeks (or you) needed...

Im considering building a new PC or upgrading a new one either way I have a few questions...

1. Is there a site where i can go through step by step and pick parts and it'll tell me what i need to complete it.

2. How much memory should i get if i dont want to have a killer pc, but want to have enought to run a descent video card.

3. Where is the best place to buy reliable/cheap memory

Thanks guys!

Do all your shopping at newegg.com if you are a noob. There is more places like zipzoomfly, pricewatch, atacom, monarchcomputers, and sometimes froogle and ebay. But for noobs the price differance is minimal. 1000$ gets ya a decent comp. I will make one for you real quick

[quote894d8262bb="dudeextrem2000"]Im considering building a new PC or upgrading a new one either way I have a few questions...

1. Is there a site where i can go through step by step and pick parts and it'll tell me what i need to complete it.

2. How much memory should i get if i dont want to have a killer pc, but want to have enought to run a descent video card.

3. Where is the best place to buy reliable/cheap memory

Thanks guys![/quote894d8262bb]

#2- At least 2GB

#3- Newegg, eBay (some parts), tigerdirect and frys

Isn't tigerdirect a shite hole?

Not only does newegg have great prices on nearly anything you can think of, their shipping is amazing too.

CPU
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103533
3500+ Venice or
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537
3000+ Venice both are good if you want cheap route go second

Mobo
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136152
go with that or the SLI-DR version that offers 4 more SATA ports

Ram
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227210
OCZ is the best good overclock if you want and uber factory if you don't

AS5
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835100007
get some good stuff and cheap so why not?

Vid Card
7800 GTX, dont skimp here
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150100
GT is fine too if you want to go that way or look into ATI if you want

PSU
here is a cheap 600w with 34a DONT SKIMP ON PSU DONT SKIMP ON PSU DoNT SKIMP ON PSU DONT SKIMP ON PSU
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817194001
That is actually a good cheap PSU

HDD
I <3 my Diamondmax 10, there is better but for the price you will be hardpressed to find one
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144421

1300$ for everything with the 3500+

I would say 1gb is the minumum, but 2 gb would be highly recomended. I just built a new system a bit ago with only 1GB, but i will be buying another 1GB soon. I think newegg is going to be your best bet for price, availablity and CS.

[quotecbc34eccb0="cartrenroy"][quotecbc34eccb0="dudeextrem2000"]Im considering building a new PC or upgrading a new one either way I have a few questions...

1. Is there a site where i can go through step by step and pick parts and it'll tell me what i need to complete it.

2. How much memory should i get if i dont want to have a killer pc, but want to have enought to run a descent video card.

3. Where is the best place to buy reliable/cheap memory

Thanks guys![/quotecbc34eccb0]

#2- At least 2GB

#3- Newegg, eBay (some parts), tigerdirect and frys[/quotecbc34eccb0]

People are saying that you do not really need the 2gb but it seems to make a world of differance on some games like BF2. And probaly in the future, and they are cheap now so why not? The 2gig ram I posted is the cheapest and best I have found thus far.

Uh.. didn't he want a [bafba624f53]decent[/bafba624f53] video card and enough RAM to run it effectively? You're suggesting 2GB of top-of-the-line OCZ RAM, nVidia's best card, and a 600W PSU?! He'd be better off with a GeForce 6600GT, a gig of Value Select Corsair PC-3200 RAM, and maybe a 350W PSU. He'd have the basics with room to upgrade.

I do agree though, Newegg is the best place to buy computer components. Super fast shipping and good prices, plus many items have 5+ user reviews.

[quoteee2d6da729="Automag389"]Uh.. didn't he want a [bee2d6da729]decent[/bee2d6da729] video card and enough RAM to run it effectively? You're suggesting 2GB of top-of-the-line OCZ RAM, nVidia's best card, and a 600W PSU?! He'd be better off with a GeForce 6600GT, a gig of Value Select Corsair PC-3200 RAM, and maybe a 350W PSU. He'd have the basics with room to upgrade.

I do agree though, Newegg is the best place to buy computer components. Super fast shipping and good prices, plus many items have 5+ user reviews.[/quoteee2d6da729]

Yuck a 6600GT with a 350W PSU!!! 350W is nothing and 6600GTs are shit. And that is not the top line mem. Corsair has shitty expensive memory never get corsair unless it is next to free.

The avg price people pay for computers is 1000$, why not pay 1300$ or 1220$ (w/o the 3500 and a 3000) and get a computer you will love to death because it can play every game on the market with eye mezmerizing settings? It is well worth the extra 300$ to upgrade to that.

[quote0428fbcbdf="Automag389"]Uh.. didn't he want a [b0428fbcbdf]decent[/b0428fbcbdf] video card and enough RAM to run it effectively? You're suggesting 2GB of top-of-the-line OCZ RAM, nVidia's best card, and a 600W PSU?! He'd be better off with a GeForce 6600GT, a gig of Value Select Corsair PC-3200 RAM, and maybe a 350W PSU. He'd have the basics with room to upgrade.

I do agree though, Newegg is the best place to buy computer components. Super fast shipping and good prices, plus many items have 5+ user reviews.[/quote0428fbcbdf]

I can sell ONE GeForce 6600GT ( I have deual GeForce 6600GT cards ? - I need some $ to get dual 7800

[quote403d2e4c97="cartrenroy"][quote403d2e4c97="Automag389"]Uh.. didn't he want a [b403d2e4c97]decent[/b403d2e4c97] video card and enough RAM to run it effectively? You're suggesting 2GB of top-of-the-line OCZ RAM, nVidia's best card, and a 600W PSU?! He'd be better off with a GeForce 6600GT, a gig of Value Select Corsair PC-3200 RAM, and maybe a 350W PSU. He'd have the basics with room to upgrade.

I do agree though, Newegg is the best place to buy computer components. Super fast shipping and good prices, plus many items have 5+ user reviews.[/quote403d2e4c97]

I can sell ONE GeForce 6600GT ( I have deual GeForce 6600GT cards ? - I need some $ to get dual 7800[/quote403d2e4c97]

SLi is a mistake unless you do it with the two state of the art cards to more efficently waste your money.

[quote4e956e09b9="Allen626"]CPU
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103533
3500+ Venice or
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16819103537
3000+ Venice both are good if you want cheap route go second

Mobo
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16813136152
go with that or the SLI-DR version that offers 4 more SATA ports

Ram
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227210
OCZ is the best good overclock if you want and uber factory if you don't

AS5
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16835100007
get some good stuff and cheap so why not?

Vid Card
7800 GTX, dont skimp here
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814150100
GT is fine too if you want to go that way or look into ATI if you want

PSU
here is a cheap 600w with 34a DONT SKIMP ON PSU DONT SKIMP ON PSU DoNT SKIMP ON PSU DONT SKIMP ON PSU
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817194001
That is actually a good cheap PSU

HDD
I <3 my Diamondmax 10, there is better but for the price you will be hardpressed to find one
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16822144421

1300$ for everything with the 3500+[/quote4e956e09b9]

AS5 isnt needed. Not to mention you shouldnt be recommending that stuff to a newbie.

I diagree with you about the maxtor hard drive, one of the most unreliable statically.

I'll be the dissenter - look at Delloutlet.com sort by Dimension 8400 and look at the available computers there - you could save quite a bit.

Here http//outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/topics/global.aspx/arb/online/en/ for example is an 8400 with P3.4, 512MB of RAM, and a nice video card for $750ish. Office Max has a 160GB SATA drive on sale on Black Friday for $19.99 after rebate, and you'd have a pretty solid system for less than $800.

Now if you want to build your own, and aren't interested in top of the line parts, or bleeding edge technology, I'll bet you could do it for under $725

Nice Case/PS ~$100
Hard Drive (2 160GB) 320GB ~$40
OS ~$80
DVD/RW x2 ~$80
Video Card (BFG 6600 GT PCI-E) ~$100
Motherboard ~$60
P3.0 ~$180
Sound Card ~$20
512MB RAM ~$50

These were guesses - but they'll give you an idea of the cost difference.

[quoted937f40058="doylnea"]I'll be the dissenter - look at Delloutlet.com sort by Dimension 8400 and look at the available computers there - you could save quite a bit.

Here http//outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/topics/global.aspx/arb/online/en/ for example is an 8400 with P3.4, 512MB of RAM, and a nice video card for $750ish. Office Max has a 160GB SATA drive on sale on Black Friday for $19.99 after rebate, and you'd have a pretty solid system for less than $800.

Now if you want to build your own, and aren't interested in top of the line parts, or bleeding edge technology, I'll bet you could do it for under $725

Nice Case/PS ~$100
Hard Drive (2) 160GB ~$40
OS ~$80
DVD/RW x2 ~$80
Video Card (BFG 6600 GT PCI-E) ~$100
Motherboard ~$60
P3.0 ~$180
Sound Card ~$20
512MB RAM ~$50

These were guesses - but they'll give you an idea of the cost difference.[/quoted937f40058]

Go with a diff HDD if you want I have had one problem with maxtor with all the maxtor HDDs I have, and they replaced it within a week of me sending it in. And it was defunctional when I got it so it was not that big of a deal. The 160gig HDDs are cheap and nice, but the 300gig will give you a lot faster loading rates and shit if you want to go cheap get the 20$ 160gig if you want fast loading rates spend the money and get a 120$ HDD. W/e floats your boat.

A high power vid card is a must for me if I build a computer, he did not even state his budge so I am assuming 1000$ or so.

AS5 is easy to apply and it keeps your shit cooler so why not? ;)

[quotef2fd238a68="doylnea"]I'll be the dissenter - look at Delloutlet.com sort by Dimension 8400 and look at the available computers there - you could save quite a bit.

Here http//outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/topics/global.aspx/arb/online/en/ for example is an 8400 with P3.4, 512MB of RAM, and a nice video card for $750ish. Office Max has a 160GB SATA drive on sale on Black Friday for $19.99 after rebate, and you'd have a pretty solid system for less than $800.

Now if you want to build your own, and aren't interested in top of the line parts, or bleeding edge technology, I'll bet you could do it for under $725

Nice Case/PS ~$100
Hard Drive (2 160GB) 320GB ~$40
OS ~$80
DVD/RW x2 ~$80
Video Card (BFG 6600 GT PCI-E) ~$100
Motherboard ~$60
P3.0 ~$180
Sound Card ~$20
512MB RAM ~$50

These were guesses - but they'll give you an idea of the cost difference.[/quotef2fd238a68]

160GB for $19 - what is the link?

[quotea4b3b5a55c="cartrenroy"][quotea4b3b5a55c="doylnea"]I'll be the dissenter - look at Delloutlet.com sort by Dimension 8400 and look at the available computers there - you could save quite a bit.

Here http//outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/topics/global.aspx/arb/online/en/ for example is an 8400 with P3.4, 512MB of RAM, and a nice video card for $750ish. Office Max has a 160GB SATA drive on sale on Black Friday for $19.99 after rebate, and you'd have a pretty solid system for less than $800.

Now if you want to build your own, and aren't interested in top of the line parts, or bleeding edge technology, I'll bet you could do it for under $725

Nice Case/PS ~$100
Hard Drive (2 160GB) 320GB ~$40
OS ~$80
DVD/RW x2 ~$80
Video Card (BFG 6600 GT PCI-E) ~$100
Motherboard ~$60
P3.0 ~$180
Sound Card ~$20
512MB RAM ~$50

These were guesses - but they'll give you an idea of the cost difference.[/quotea4b3b5a55c]

160GB for $19 - what is the link?[/quotea4b3b5a55c]

Happens a lot at my local fries, and blackfriday I am sure you will find some.

okthx for the help so far, a few more questions...

1. i have a 200 gb HD i just installed in the PC i am using now couldnt i just yank it out and put it in the new 1?

2. Can you "overpowr" a system? jw

[quote7c1d6ac4f6="dudeextrem2000"]okthx for the help so far, a few more questions...

1. i have a 200 gb HD i just installed in the PC i am using now couldnt i just yank it out and put it in the new 1?

2. Can you "overpowr" a system? jw[/quote7c1d6ac4f6]

1. Yes

2. Nope, you can underpower though and starve the vid card of its amps and it will cause a lot of problems.



Compfreak do you mean it is damaged by static electricity? We do not have much of that in Houston because of the humidity so I can not account for that if that is what you are talking about. I work on computers w/o grounding straps and rarely use the static bags it is nice.

[quoted84c1ea99a="Allen626"][quoted84c1ea99a="dudeextrem2000"]okthx for the help so far, a few more questions...

1. i have a 200 gb HD i just installed in the PC i am using now couldnt i just yank it out and put it in the new 1?

2. Can you "overpowr" a system? jw[/quoted84c1ea99a]

1. Yes

2. Nope, you can underpower though and starve the vid card of its amps and it will cause a lot of problems.



Compfreak do you mean it is damaged by static electricity? We do not have much of that in Houston because of the humidity so I can not account for that if that is what you are talking about. I work on computers w/o grounding straps and rarely use the static bags it is nice.[/quoted84c1ea99a]

k so say i bought this http//cgi.ebay.com/X-BLACK-ATX-Computer-case-500w-USB2-0-NEW_W0QQitemZ6821596811QQcategoryZ51063QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Would it be compatible w/ the list you posted, and have enough power to run everything?

Probally not because that 500w PSU is not even 500w, they place shitty PSU's in cases like that. It is probaly 350w or so. I would suggest a case off newegg, because that shipping is 40$ and you can get a better case on newegg.

ok thx scratch that

i found this on newegg

http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102188

but is there any reason not for me to buy this, to save some cash

http//www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3626451

...and...

as a budget im not sure because this is probably going to be a long drawn out project because well i need a car...

do not go with maxtor hdd's. i have one and it makes noises every time i run something. seagate is the best because they have the 5 year warranty. 6600gt's are already out of date so you should go for at least a 6800gt and that will be out of date soon enough. ocz makes great ram. i have a gig of el platinum and couldnt be happier.

oh and stay away from dells. they have been using shitttier parts to keep their profits up.

[quote8cdd14656c="tracemhunter"]do not go with maxtor hdd's. i have one and it makes noises every time i run something. seagate is the best because they have the 5 year warranty. 6600gt's are already out of date so you should go for at least a 6800gt and that will be out of date soon enough. ocz makes great ram. i have a gig of el platinum and couldnt be happier.

oh and [b8cdd14656c]stay away from dells[/b8cdd14656c]. they have been using shitttier parts to keep their profits up.[/quote8cdd14656c]

ok i've kinda heard this as well, i dont know what to do (upgrade my old PC {not to nice} or just build a new one) but id probably messup anyways...

[quote8b7589fb26="dudeextrem2000"]ok thx scratch that

i found this on newegg

http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16829102188

but is there any reason not for me to buy this, to save some cash

http//www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3626451

...and...

as a budget im not sure because this is probably going to be a long drawn out project because well i need a car...[/quote8b7589fb26]

OH NOES YOU FOUND TEH SOUND CARDS. Do not get into this realm it is stick and icky and it smells funny ;).

They x-fi card is the best sound card on the market, so says a lot of people. But the mobo I listed has a 5.1 sound card on it that will keep any non-audiophile at bay. Now if you want to you can buy a Kplish Promedia 5.1 Ultra (300$) and get a x-fi soundcard (150$ or so) and listen to some uber music ;). I am currently listening to pink floyd over 2$ headphones and I wish I had that set up. I can only dream... fow now at least I hope sometimes soon I can get that. Pink floyd would take on a new dimension (.

Dell is a good company, there computers are a little expensive but it is a pre built comp what do you expect? They use cheap parts but they are usually still fairly good at lead there monitors are ;).

[quoteb4f8c156ba="Allen626"][quoteb4f8c156ba="doylnea"]I'll be the dissenter - look at Delloutlet.com sort by Dimension 8400 and look at the available computers there - you could save quite a bit.

Here http//outlet.us.dell.com/ARBOnlineSales/topics/global.aspx/arb/online/en/ for example is an 8400 with P3.4, 512MB of RAM, and a nice video card for $750ish. Office Max has a 160GB SATA drive on sale on Black Friday for $19.99 after rebate, and you'd have a pretty solid system for less than $800.

Now if you want to build your own, and aren't interested in top of the line parts, or bleeding edge technology, I'll bet you could do it for under $725

Nice Case/PS ~$100
Hard Drive (2) 160GB ~$40
OS ~$80
DVD/RW x2 ~$80
Video Card (BFG 6600 GT PCI-E) ~$100
Motherboard ~$60
P3.0 ~$180
Sound Card ~$20
512MB RAM ~$50

These were guesses - but they'll give you an idea of the cost difference.[/quoteb4f8c156ba]

Go with a diff HDD if you want I have had one problem with maxtor with all the maxtor HDDs I have, and they replaced it within a week of me sending it in. And it was defunctional when I got it so it was not that big of a deal. The 160gig HDDs are cheap and nice, but the 300gig will give you a lot faster loading rates and shit if you want to go cheap get the 20$ 160gig if you want fast loading rates spend the money and get a 120$ HDD. W/e floats your boat.

A high power vid card is a must for me if I build a computer, he did not even state his budge so I am assuming 1000$ or so.

AS5 is easy to apply and it keeps your shit cooler so why not? ;)[/quoteb4f8c156ba]
Hard drive capacity has nothing to do with loading times. That's RPM. 7200 is the current standard and 10,000 produces the best loading times, as far as I know. A 350W PSU isn't shitty at all, right now I'm running my 7800GTX on a Shuttle 350W SilenX PSU and I've had no heating problems or artifacts or anything. Also, Corsair is generally overpriced, I'll agree. But a gig of PC-3200 Value Select goes on Newegg for $70 retail, and that's what I'm running right now. Of course, I need to upgrade my RAM to take advantage of the card and Athlon 3700, but in dudeextrem's case the Value Select is fine.
[quoteb4f8c156ba="tracemhunter"]do not go with maxtor hdd's. i have one and it makes noises every time i run something. seagate is the best because they have the 5 year warranty. 6600gt's are already out of date so you should go for at least a 6800gt and that will be out of date soon enough. ocz makes great ram. i have a gig of el platinum and couldnt be happier.

oh and stay away from dells. they have been using shitttier parts to keep their profits up.[/quoteb4f8c156ba]
I have a Maxtor 160GB HDD and it's fine. Has been since I got it last year. And did you mean that he should get a 7800GT? Again, he wants a [bb4f8c156ba]decent[/bb4f8c156ba] card. A 6800LE or 6600GT would do the job fine, both of those cards are good mid-range models. dudeextrem, do you want the best card on the market or a mid-range card?

you can get 15K rpm scsi drives. one of them would make a nice primary drive to boot from, and a second one for swap/pagefile.

They're making 15K RPM drives now? That must boot incredibly fast. I know that SATA II's also due for production really soon if it isn't already. Looking forward to that. )

[quote47b9838731="Allen626"]Dell is a good company, there computers are a little expensive but it is a pre built comp what do you expect? They use cheap parts but they are usually still fairly good at lead there monitors are ;).[/quote47b9838731]

ok i was looking through your suggestions...

[b47b9838731]AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 1GHz[/color47b9838731] FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail[/b47b9838731]

isnt the good rate in the 3.?ghz range... and I've heard some bad stuff about AMD is it true?

[b47b9838731]DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail[/b47b9838731]

in the pictures it has yellow, and red rca jacks does this mean it could send/capture video (i really would like that), it also shows

http//images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-136-152-04.JPG[" alt=""/img47b9838731]

would this be sufficient for a sound card (not extremely interested in a "super nice" one @ the moment)...

[b47b9838731]OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Platinum System Memory - Retail[/b47b9838731]

I know i might sound cheap but, is there any cheaper memory that will do the job? (working on a very tight budget)

[b47b9838731]XFX Geforce 7800GTX PVT70FUNF7 Video Card with 450MHz Core and 1250MHz Memory - Retail[/b47b9838731]

i can probably say for a fact i wont spend this much... is there any other video cards that can capture tv, and arent so much...

[b47b9838731]ENERMAX All in One Noisetaker Series EG701AX-VE SFMA(24P) 600W Power Supply - Retail[/b47b9838731]

again is there a cheaper version that would suit... ....yes i am a noob wink

[quote118f9039ce="Automag389"]dudeextrem, do you want the best card on the market or a mid-range card?[/quote118f9039ce]

i want a card capable of running games like halo, halflife, but it doesnt have to be a beast... basicly id like to be able to download / buy a game and be able to play it w/ no problems w/ screen resolution in-sufficient memory and such

[quote91f083b76b="dudeextrem2000"][quote91f083b76b="Allen626"]Dell is a good company, there computers are a little expensive but it is a pre built comp what do you expect? They use cheap parts but they are usually still fairly good at lead there monitors are ;).[/quote91f083b76b]

ok i was looking through your suggestions...

[b91f083b76b]AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 1GHz[/color91f083b76b] FSB 512KB L2 Cache Socket 939 Processor - Retail[/b91f083b76b]

isnt the good rate in the 3.?ghz range... and I've heard some bad stuff about AMD is it true?

[b91f083b76b]DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail[/b91f083b76b]

in the pictures it has yellow, and red rca jacks does this mean it could send/capture video (i really would like that), it also shows

http//images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-136-152-04.JPG[" alt=""/img91f083b76b]

would this be sufficient for a sound card (not extremely interested in a "super nice" one @ the moment)...

[b91f083b76b]OCZ 2GB (2 x 1GB) 184-Pin DDR SDRAM Dual Channel Platinum System Memory - Retail[/b91f083b76b]

I know i might sound cheap but, is there any cheaper memory that will do the job? (working on a very tight budget)

[b91f083b76b]XFX Geforce 7800GTX PVT70FUNF7 Video Card with 450MHz Core and 1250MHz Memory - Retail[/b91f083b76b]

i can probably say for a fact i wont spend this much... is there any other video cards that can capture tv, and arent so much...

[b91f083b76b]ENERMAX All in One Noisetaker Series EG701AX-VE SFMA(24P) 600W Power Supply - Retail[/b91f083b76b]

again is there a cheaper version that would suit... ....yes i am a noob wink[/quote91f083b76b]
Memory http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145526

Video Card http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130258

PSU http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817159008

That processor is fine. AMD is the best choice for gaming, at the moment, and it doesn't lag too far behind in multi-tasking performance (Intel beats AMD in that category). I forgot the exact reason why AMD's operating frequencies are lower, but rest assured, they perform great. What sort of rumors did you hear about AMD?

And yes, that motherboard would support a good sound card.

that mobo sound card is pretty good. That memory he posted is CL of 4, the one I have is CL of 2 for 2gigs. I would go with mine but that is just me. The video card he postedi s a little overpriced go with the 6600 GT over that. The PSU is also shitty. I would suggest a better one but I am not in a state to research it right now ;). What is your price range? That will help me when I get up tommarow somewhere around 2pm.

Yeah, I was going to paste the link for the 6600GT, but some of the reviews stated that the better deal was the 6800GS. $200 is the cost of a 6600GT in-store, I think, and it's also the price of the 6800GS (a step higher) on Newegg. D

i thoguth that was a 6600 gt i have never seen a 6800GS card. I can not stress enough to atleast get a 300$ 7800GT card. The gfx card is the most important thing in a gaming computer.

[quote0ccf09145a="Automag389"]
Memory http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145526

Video Card http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16814130258

PSU http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16817159008

That processor is fine. AMD is the best choice for gaming, at the moment, and it doesn't lag too far behind in multi-tasking performance (Intel beats AMD in that category). I forgot the exact reason why AMD's operating frequencies are lower, but rest assured, they perform great. [b0ccf09145a]What sort of rumors did you hear about AMD?[/b0ccf09145a]

And yes, that motherboard would support a good sound card.[/quote0ccf09145a]

i heard various talk about how they some times crash for no reason... but if thats not true... cool! and i would be using the computer for alot of multitasking too... probably gaming/multitasking/maybe even some video editing so would that change my pick for a processor? Also is that memory compatible w/ any computer or just select few... And im liking the price on that power supply... compared to the other.... and im gonna sound like a cheapscape againg, but would any of these cards be sufficient for running new games...

ATI Radeon 9200SE PCI 128 MB Graphics Card
http//www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3371498

PNY GeForce FX 5500 128MB PCI Graphic Card
http//www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4087778

PNY GeForce 6200 128 MB DDR AGP Card
http//www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4087779

Radeon 9550 256 MB AGP
http//www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3910232

price range well... nothing over 1000 and probably not over 800 if i can help it, also i need a car, so i might have to buy the parts individually, and work on it later

Before I goto bed please save up before you buy, and buy all at once. Get 1300$ before your purchase at least, you will be a lot happier. Ok now im going to bed, I swear.

amd's are good and easy to overclock. amd's run hot, but not as hot as a p4 prescott. you could fry an egg on one of those!

[quote39f681e839="tracemhunter"]amd's are good and easy to overclock. amd's run hot, but not as hot as a p4 prescott. you could fry an egg on one of those![/quote39f681e839]

lol ok im going to bed for the night, well see what i can come up w/ and maybe even a memory upgrade on my PC i have now and a vid card might suffice for now... ok later all ill check in the morning to see the posts...

[quoteb328c2adc2="dudeextrem2000"]i heard various talk about how they some times crash for no reason... but if thats not true... cool! and i would be using the computer for alot of multitasking too... probably gaming/multitasking/maybe even some video editing so would that change my pick for a processor? Also is that memory compatible w/ any computer or just select few... And im liking the price on that power supply... compared to the other.... and im gonna sound like a cheapscape againg, but would any of these cards be sufficient for running new games...

ATI Radeon 9200SE PCI 128 MB Graphics Card
http//www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3371498

PNY GeForce FX 5500 128MB PCI Graphic Card
http//www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4087778

PNY GeForce 6200 128 MB DDR AGP Card
http//www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4087779

Radeon 9550 256 MB AGP
http//www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=3910232[/quoteb328c2adc2]
Uh... the 6200 might get by, but barely (huge heating problems, not-so-good quality). And the AMD 3000+ is fine for gaming and some video editing, don't worry. The memory is compatible with all 184-pin RAM slots on a given motherboard, I'm pretty sure. If you won't be transferring the memory to very strange motherboards then you have nothing to worry about, this RAM will do the job. As Allen said, it would be a wise investment to get a video card that can compete with today's games (late nVidia 6 series [6600GT, 6800GT/Ultra], ATI 9800XT or later [the X800 is about equal to the GeForce 6600GT]), but you can always wait until better cards come out or until better deals on mid-range cards develop.

ok so if i bought that memory for my desktop i have now (E-Machines something) it should work?

Hmm... I'm not so sure. That memory is DDR2, which is relatively new. It's also 240-pin. To be safe, get this RAM http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820145440

That should fit in your eMachine. 184-pin DDR SDRAM has been the standard for several years. When did you get your eMachine?

amd's don't run hot at all... i have my 3200+ o/c'd to 2.6ghz (260x10 with a 11 divider) on air cooling (zalman 7000alcu) and it still only runs 45 degrees celcius max

and if you aren't planning on overclocking you can just go with ocz value ram... pity they stopped selling that value vx stuff... ungodly overclockability for the price.

if you plan on overclocking i'd say
-dfi ultra-d or a sli-dr if you plan on getting 7800gt and plan on another one in the future
-amd athlon 3200+
-ocz modstream 450W ( do not skimp on your PSU just because it doesn't seem to affect performance that much.. a generic PSU failure will lead to parts going bad and bsod's a lot) make sure you get a psu that gives a cable with 24 pins and not 20 because dfi's are picky about that and it'll cause instability if you use an old psu. also, if you get a 7800gt i would suggest the OCZ Powerstream 600W psu because that thing is really a beast when it comes to PSU's and it's very reliable power
-OCZ Gold VX 1 GB Dual Channel (get two gigs if you want but it won't help much with performance yet and in some cases you'll get less fps, only reason i see going for two gigs is so that you won't have to run 2T timing later on when you get four dimm's and that's bound to cut into your o/c)
-6800 GS looks really promising so obviously try that out for the price
-WD Raptor or a Seagate Barracuda 7200.8 or 7200.9 depending on your preference of speed or storage. maxtor diamondmax hd's aren't bad either because of their 16mb cache so that's a viable option

and if you live in CA i suggest you do most of your shopping at MonarchComputer, definately get your motherboard and CPU there because they're giving out free stuff in addition to testing the parts to make sure they work. I got free copy of Half Life 2 and Far Cry with my computer purchase and they shipped it nice and fast too, the stock fan already attached to the motherboard with the processor set and ready to run so all you have to do is stick in your case and run it. good luck with your build!

automag i boughtmy emachine i think like 3 years ago, i think

Aurelius i kinda would like to this for the cheapest possible because of my money problem, unless someone wants to donate some cash wink

Yeah, the RAM in the link in my last post will fit in your eMachine then.

[quotee84833bf2c="Automag389"]Yeah, the RAM in the link in my last post will fit in your eMachine then.[/quotee84833bf2c]

ok i think ill do this for now and yet a kinda cheap vid card and use the one i have...

how cheap is cheap? i'm building a computer for my friend to play source and it should get 140+ fps and it'll cost around $850. just set a budget and what state you life in and i'll put together a nice list for you

[quoteedbb417492="cartrenroy"][quoteedbb417492="dudeextrem2000"]Im considering building a new PC or upgrading a new one either way I have a few questions...

1. Is there a site where i can go through step by step and pick parts and it'll tell me what i need to complete it.

2. How much memory should i get if i dont want to have a killer pc, but want to have enought to run a descent video card.

3. Where is the best place to buy reliable/cheap memory

Thanks guys![/quoteedbb417492]

#2- At least 2GB

#3- Newegg, eBay (some parts), tigerdirect and frys[/quoteedbb417492]

2GB? He said he doesn't need a killer system. 1GB is plenty enough RAM...

Never get 4 sticks in one mobo it runs at 2t and 2t is not good. 2GB is good for a 1300$ system I would say, and even a 1000$ system. Not a 800$ though.

Do not get that shitty CL2.5 corsair ram. Corsair is shit, I can not stress this enough. Always get OCZ ram ;). Seems like you want to make a computer that in 2 years will not play any games and you will have to upgrade again. If you want to build a nice computer that in 2 years will still play all the games, and will play them now with awsome visuals talk to me and use my part list.

If you want to get thoose shitty parts that you picked out for video card I will not help you, thoose are stupid to even think about placing into a PC in which you want to game on. And play anything higher then CS1.6 ;).

SLi sux never go the "oh I will get another one in the future" option. It blows big floppy donkey dick and you only need it if you want to get two state of the art cards on a 24" monitor or a 21". Why? Because it only matters at higher resolutions.

[quote672bf40710="Allen626"]Never get 4 sticks in one mobo it runs at 2t and 2t is not good. 2GB is good for a 1300$ system I would say, and even a 1000$ system. Not a 800$ though.

Do not get that shitty CL2.5 corsair ram. Corsair is shit, I can not stress this enough. Always get OCZ ram ;). Seems like you want to make a computer that in 2 years will not play any games and you will have to upgrade again. If you want to build a nice computer that in 2 years will still play all the games, and will play them now with awsome visuals talk to me and use my part list.

If you want to get thoose shitty parts that you picked out for video card I will not help you, thoose are stupid to even think about placing into a PC in which you want to game on. And play anything higher then CS1.6 ;).

SLi sux never go the "oh I will get another one in the future" option. It blows big floppy donkey dick and you only need it if you want to get two state of the art cards on a 24" monitor or a 21". Why? Because it only matters at higher resolutions.[/quote672bf40710]

corsair is not shitty, how many times must i say that? Go take a look at OCZ's history vs Corsairs, and get back to me. Corsair is actually rated number one, next to Crucial. It may not be the best overclocker but that mean its shitty.

[quotee0e918e425="dudeextrem2000"]
[be0e918e425]DFI LANPARTY UT nF4 Ultra-D Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 Ultra ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail[/be0e918e425]

in the pictures it has yellow, and red rca jacks does this mean it could send/capture video (i really would like that), it also shows

http//images10.newegg.com/NeweggImage/productimage/13-136-152-04.JPG[" alt=""/imge0e918e425]

would this be sufficient for a sound card (not extremely interested in a "super nice" one @ the moment)...[/quotee0e918e425]
I have this exact mobo, after having 2 bad Asus a8n-SLI Deluxe mobo die after a month, and DOA. It had worked great for me so far.

OCZ right now has better ram then Corsair. Do you not agree?

[quote9cc8320553="Allen626"]OCZ right now has better ram then Corsair. Do you not agree?[/quote9cc8320553]

Overclocking yes. Though corsair is nowhere near shitty. If you were going to say Corsair is shitty you'd probably need to start with Pny and Patriot.

Corsair is not shitty, fine! But do not use it with the DFi Ultra-D nf4. It does not support Corsair very well without some bios tweaks. The Ultra-D can OC the OCZ to a very high point without buying anything else, and if you want to you can buy a 10$ fan and OC it even higher.

[quotef996fb2015="Allen626"]Corsair is not shitty, fine! But do not use it with the DFi Ultra-D nf4. It does not support Corsair very well without some bios tweaks. The Ultra-D can OC the OCZ to a very high point without buying anything else, and if you want to you can buy a 10$ fan and OC it even higher.[/quotef996fb2015]

Ocing reminds me of the old days, BH5 beouch!

The differance between BH-5 and BH-5 UTT is that one is tested and the other is not right? And I thought the OCZ VX had BH-5 in them, and that is a newer ram module.

ok how about this... instead of buying all this individually, i by some pre-maid computer (maybe a dell 8400 or something like that) and upgrade it would that be a cheaper deal, or no?

No, becuase dell uses specialized crap... the ram is incompatible with any other computers and very expensive to upgrade, ect.

edit - and no matter how cheap a premade computer is, it will ALWAYS be cheaper to build it yourself becuase you're paying for labour hours with a built computer.

[quote5fa9c8dfc1="goofygarber"]edit - and no matter how cheap a premade computer is, it will ALWAYS be cheaper to build it yourself becuase you're paying for labour hours with a built computer.[/quote5fa9c8dfc1]

Wanna try to beat a $300 dell?

[quote4e4a86ea5c="Allen626"]Corsair is not shitty, fine! But do not use it with the DFi Ultra-D nf4. It does not support Corsair very well without some bios tweaks. The Ultra-D can OC the OCZ to a very high point without buying anything else, and if you want to you can buy a 10$ fan and OC it even higher.[/quote4e4a86ea5c]
I have this mobo with Corsair XMS memory and haven't had a single problem yet. Worked great out of the box with no tweaks.

[quotebd3406e30f="goofygarber"]edit - and no matter how cheap a premade computer is, it will ALWAYS be cheaper to build it yourself becuase you're paying for labour hours with a built computer.[/quotebd3406e30f]

Yeah this used to be true but its hard to beat those Dells with the coupons. I still say build your own unless you are new unless you have some help. It can be a lot more trouble than its worth...

And I really like my Corsair RAM and having 4 sticks makes such a slight difference. You have to think most people aren't benchmarking their systems. I have 2 512 sticks and am looking to get another 1GB. Its not worth the small raise in performacne to sell my 2x512MB and buy 2x1GB.

actually i found a really really sweet deal on a dell xps at delloutlet site and bought it as my second computer. 1000 dollars for a media center computer with 6800 gt, 1gb of ram, a raptor, and a 1704fp monitor, and a tuner with remote (this was a couple months ago so that stuff was worth more)... but that's just me getting lucky. also took at least three hours cleaning out all the crap that dell computer's default with but now that i customized it up, the computer runs really fast for the price, pity it's a locked bios that you can't o/c though...

ok i keep hearing it what does overclock mean?

[quote3f6e99dba7="dudeextrem2000"]ok i keep hearing it what does overclock mean?[/quote3f6e99dba7]

clocking the item faster then its rated speed

ok thx for the clarification...

I wasn't thinking dell outlet. I keep checking there for a media center PC, and someday I'll bite and pull the trigger; but for a all new PC you could buy all the components that dell does for less than dell.

1. use this site to help you along the way....
it's got video and images, and step by step guides, precautions

http//www.buildyourown.org.uk/pc_installing/operating_system/

other helpful links

http//www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20020904/index.html
http//www6.tomshardware.com/howto/20020918/index.html

[quote94721102ba="Allen626"]Do not get that shitty CL2.5 corsair ram. Corsair is shit, I can not stress this enough. Always get OCZ ram ;). Seems like you want to make a computer that in 2 years will not play any games and you will have to upgrade again. If you want to build a nice computer that in 2 years will still play all the games, and will play them now with awsome visuals talk to me and use my part list.[/quote94721102ba]
So eventually the games he would be playing fine now would just stop working in two years? I could understand that by then he wouldn't be able to play very many [i94721102ba]new[/i94721102ba] games, but he should be able to play games like CS 1.6 and Call of Duty and whatnot until Windows decides to crap out on him, if it does before he decides to upgrade.

[quote94721102ba="Allen626"]If you want to get thoose shitty parts that you picked out for video card I will not help you, thoose are stupid to even think about placing into a PC in which you want to game on. And play anything higher then CS1.6 ;).[/quote94721102ba]
A 6600GT is [i94721102ba]fine[/i94721102ba] for gaming. It's not like he'd be stuck playing Asteroid with Intel Extreme Graphics 2 or something. And even that would play 1.6. If he decides to get another 6600GT in the future he can pair them together in SLI mode and get performance as good or better than that of a 6800 Ultra.

[quote94721102ba="Allen626"]SLi sux never go the "oh I will get another one in the future" option. It blows big floppy donkey dick and you only need it if you want to get two state of the art cards on a 24" monitor or a 21". Why? Because it only matters at higher resolutions.[/quote94721102ba]
...What? Two cards in SLI mode would increase the graphics performance by at least 50%. You could be playing games on a 15" monitor set at 800x600 and see the difference.

[quote22c944c20c="Automag389"][quote22c944c20c="Allen626"]Do not get that shitty CL2.5 corsair ram. Corsair is shit, I can not stress this enough. Always get OCZ ram ;). Seems like you want to make a computer that in 2 years will not play any games and you will have to upgrade again. If you want to build a nice computer that in 2 years will still play all the games, and will play them now with awsome visuals talk to me and use my part list.[/quote22c944c20c]
So eventually the games he would be playing fine now would just stop working in two years? I could understand that by then he wouldn't be able to play very many [i22c944c20c]new[/i22c944c20c] games, but he should be able to play games like CS 1.6 and Call of Duty and whatnot until Windows decides to crap out on him, if it does before he decides to upgrade.

You usually do not play a game for 2 years with notiable exceptions, and even still like to play new games.

[quote22c944c20c="Allen626"]If you want to get thoose shitty parts that you picked out for video card I will not help you, thoose are stupid to even think about placing into a PC in which you want to game on. And play anything higher then CS1.6 ;).[/quote22c944c20c]
A 6600GT is [i22c944c20c]fine[/i22c944c20c] for gaming. It's not like he'd be stuck playing Asteroid with Intel Extreme Graphics 2 or something. And even that would play 1.6. If he decides to get another 6600GT in the future he can pair them together in SLI mode and get performance as good or better than that of a 6800 Ultra.

Wrong, two SLI 6600GTs will run MAYBE like a 6800GT at 1600x1200 on like BF2. Remeber the big MAYBE involved there.

[quote22c944c20c="Allen626"]SLi sux never go the "oh I will get another one in the future" option. It blows big floppy donkey dick and you only need it if you want to get two state of the art cards on a 24" monitor or a 21". Why? Because it only matters at higher resolutions.[/quote22c944c20c]
...What? Two cards in SLI mode would increase the graphics performance by at least 50%. You could be playing games on a 15" monitor set at 800x600 and see the difference.[/quote22c944c20c]

Wrong, maybe a 20% improvement. Actually maybe not even that. SLi is only good at high resolutions.

[quote1c4cff50e7="Allen626"]Dell is a good company, there computers are a little expensive but it is a pre built comp what do you expect? They use cheap parts but they are usually still fairly good at lead there monitors are ;).[/quote1c4cff50e7]

i have a beastly old dell monitor... lol

ok back to what i was gonna say...

Circuit City is selling memory this week kinda cheap (i dont care) im gonna get it maybe, and maybe a descent vid card for the time being, till i get some extra cash...

ok geeks/wise fellas, i opened up my beast today... i have discovered that all i have for memory is 1 slot 256 meg memory chip. I'm gonna go to circuit city and get 2 sticks of 512 and replace it, would I need to take my computer in or if i yanked the memory i have in it now and took it would they be able to tell me what I need?

Thanks!

[quoted7f1b6ffd4="dudeextrem2000"]ok geeks/wise fellas, i opened up my beast today... i have discovered that all i have for memory is 1 slot 256 meg memory chip. I'm gonna go to circuit city and get 2 sticks of 512 and replace it, would I need to take my computer in or if i yanked the memory i have in it now and took it would they be able to tell me what I need?

Thanks![/quoted7f1b6ffd4]
You defintintly don't need to bring your whole computer in. Write down what processor and motherboard you have (if you know) and bring in your current memory. That will be plenty.

[quote813088384c="Peinecone"][quote813088384c="dudeextrem2000"]ok geeks/wise fellas, i opened up my beast today... i have discovered that all i have for memory is 1 slot 256 meg memory chip. I'm gonna go to circuit city and get 2 sticks of 512 and replace it, would I need to take my computer in or if i yanked the memory i have in it now and took it would they be able to tell me what I need?

Thanks![/quote813088384c]
You defintintly don't need to bring your whole computer in. Write down what processor and motherboard you have (if you know) and bring in your current memory. That will be plenty.[/quote813088384c]


thats the prob i dont knwo / and i lost the paper that came w/ it

ok i looked in again and read my memory stick, and there was a 2100 on it. Does that mean it will be compatable w/ http//www.circuitcity.com/ccd/howToGetItTab.do?c=1&zip=43935&oid=108887#tabs which turns to 29.99 after rebate! I thought it was a nice deal, if it is compatable ill get 2 of them... i have pics but image shack isnt working, is there any other freepicture hosting sites?

ok heres some pics... not the greatest but...

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another question guys, well 2...

1. http//www.circuitcity.com/ccd/productDetailReview.do?oid=108887&com.broadvision.session.new=Yes&BV_UseBVCookie=No#tabs

that seems like a good deal too me, butwill it work w/ my 3 year oldcomp...

2. is memory hard to install, or is it plug an play like hard drives and such?

Thanks alot!

Memory is easy to install, that is just PC2100 DDR400 DDR 512mb stick. It is not even that cheap, and the CL is probaly high.

[quote00356171c6="Allen626"]Memory is easy to install, that is just PC2100 DDR400 DDR 512mb stick. [b00356171c6]It is not even that cheap[/b00356171c6], and the [b00356171c6]CL[/b00356171c6] is probaly high.[/quote00356171c6]

ya the memory in my comp says 2100 on it, so i assumed it would work...

is there cheaper?

what is CL?

thx

prebuilt brand name comps= Teh Nastiness
If you're truly 1337, you'll custom build your rig yourself and overclock the hell out of you CPU and GPU D

[quote738df8a44d="JUNIOR6886"]prebuilt brand name comps= Teh Nastiness
If you're truly 1337, you'll custom build your rig yourself and overclock the hell out of you CPU and GPU D[/quote738df8a44d]

but im not i just wanna cheap memory upgrade...

I got one of these last year sometime and it works pretty well for me. It's not the best but it does the job it needs to.

http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820144305

When I get the cash I'm going to totally rebuild my Cyberpower with high end parts and I'll probably get myself a couple of either of these

http//www.newegg.com/product/product.asp?item=N82E16820145504

http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820227209

I talked to Allen on AIM and he has recomended (thru a lot of tuturing me, which i paid him for via paypal lol ) http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16820141215

and im gonna get that!! THX ALLEN

K, I'm back with another question (what a surprise)

1. I recently (BF) bought a 200gb Maxtor Hard Drive, and a Hard drive enclosure. BUt when i put it in and connected all the cables it would show up in the safely remove iems as a hard drive, but not in "my computer". I contacted Maxtor, but all they said was that i'd have to format it, but i cant because it wont show up to format... Has anyone else worked w/ got this too work? Thanks a lot!

[quotee41c883d56="dudeextrem2000"]K, I'm back with another question (what a surprise)

1. I recently (BF) bought a 200gb Maxtor Hard Drive, and a Hard drive enclosure. BUt when i put it in and connected all the cables it would show up in the safely remove iems as a hard drive, but not in "my computer". I contacted Maxtor, but all they said was that i'd have to format it, but i cant because it wont show up to format... Has anyone else worked w/ got this too work? Thanks a lot![/quotee41c883d56]

Running XP?

Go to "Start -> Programs -> Administrative Tools -> Computer Management"

Click on "Disk Management" in the left pane under "Storage". Identify your 200GB drive (it should say "Unallocated" next to it) in the list in bottom-right pane and right-click on it. Select "New Partition".

We'll assume from here on out that you want one huge 200GB NTFS parition.

Select "Primary Partition". Click next.
Make sure the size is 100%. Click next.
Select a drive letter. Click next.
Format NTFS with default allocation unit. Click next.
Review and click Finish.

ok when i do that it comes up w/ a Initialize and Convert Disk wizard do i use this?

[quote403ef79057="dudeextrem2000"]ok when i do that it comes up w/ a Initialize and Convert Disk wizard do i use this?[/quote403ef79057]

That's what you're looking for. Just click next and follow the instructions in my response above.

ok i got it and its formatting thank you so much !!! whats your paypal addy, i've been payin 3 dollars per helpful help to everyone elso so...

[quote1dbf0c22ca="dudeextrem2000"]ok i got it and its formatting thank you so much !!! whats your paypal addy, i've been payin 3 dollars per helpful help to everyone elso so...[/quote1dbf0c22ca]

that's cool, but don't worry about it. enjoy your new harddrive! 8)

[quotee9780436d5="agroman"][quotee9780436d5="dudeextrem2000"]ok i got it and its formatting thank you so much !!! whats your paypal addy, i've been payin 3 dollars per helpful help to everyone elso so...[/quotee9780436d5]

that's cool, but don't worry about it. enjoy your new harddrive! 8)[/quotee9780436d5]

k thanks man!! well @ least i gave ya ++KMA but, here is my case, I think its the bomb... but maybe thats just me....

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+ all 3 sides (cept back) have neons...

PS will i have to do anything special when its done formatting? (which is taking a long time for some reason)

[quoted9f2318ceb="dudeextrem2000"][quoted9f2318ceb="agroman"][quoted9f2318ceb="dudeextrem2000"]ok i got it and its formatting thank you so much !!! whats your paypal addy, i've been payin 3 dollars per helpful help to everyone elso so...[/quoted9f2318ceb]

that's cool, but don't worry about it. enjoy your new harddrive! 8)[/quoted9f2318ceb]

k thanks man!! well @ least i gave ya ++KMA but, here is my case, I think its the bomb... but maybe thats just me....
+ all 3 sides (cept back) have neons...

PS will i have to do anything special when its done formatting? (which is taking a long time for some reason)[/quoted9f2318ceb]

Spiffy case! Very cool. What brand is that?

The format will take a while for a 200GB partition. I'll guess about a half hour at least. You shouldn't have to do anything after it's done, Windows will mount the drive and you should see it listed with drive letter you selected under My Computer. Go make a sandwich or somethin... ;)

[quotef5a0398982="agroman"][quotef5a0398982="dudeextrem2000"][quotef5a0398982="agroman"][quotef5a0398982="dudeextrem2000"]ok i got it and its formatting thank you so much !!! whats your paypal addy, i've been payin 3 dollars per helpful help to everyone elso so...[/quotef5a0398982]

that's cool, but don't worry about it. enjoy your new harddrive! 8)[/quotef5a0398982]

k thanks man!! well @ least i gave ya ++KMA but, here is my case, I think its the bomb... but maybe thats just me....
+ all 3 sides (cept back) have neons...

PS will i have to do anything special when its done formatting? (which is taking a long time for some reason)[/quotef5a0398982]

Spiffy case! Very cool. What brand is that?

The format will take a while for a 200GB partition. I'll guess about a half hour at least. You shouldn't have to do anything after it's done, Windows will mount the drive and you should see it listed with drive letter you selected under My Computer. Go make a sandwich or somethin... ;)[/quotef5a0398982]

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ok new question... my memory came today all I do is shutdown, put it in and turn it on right?

[quote1ff69a903d="dudeextrem2000"]ok new question... my memory came today all I do is shutdown, put it in and turn it on right?[/quote1ff69a903d]

basically, depends on what you're doing

[quote8f3e484ff5="CoMpFrEaK"][quote8f3e484ff5="dudeextrem2000"]ok new question... my memory came today all I do is shutdown, put it in and turn it on right?[/quote8f3e484ff5]

basically, depends on what you're doing[/quote8f3e484ff5]

so what would I do? is there a specific process?