Man Recovers From HIV.

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theysayjump

13-11-2005 01:59:24

http//news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/health/4432564.stm

shock

[quote14da00bce3]Doctors are planning further tests on a 25-year-old British man whose body has reportedly cured itself of HIV.

Two Sunday newspapers report that Andrew Stimpson, who lives in London, was diagnosed as HIV-positive in 2002 but found to be clear in October 2003.

Chelsea and Westminster Healthcare NHS Trust, which carried out the tests, has asked him to undergo more. Mr Stimpson did not take any medication for HIV.

HIV experts say his case could help to reveal more about the disease.

There have been anecdotal accounts before from Africa of people shaking off the HIV virus, but the evidence in this case, as reported in the News of the World and the Mail on Sunday, appears to be conclusive, BBC health correspondent Adam Brimelow said.

Mr Stimpson, who is originally from Largs in Ayrshire, said "There are 34.9 million people with HIV globally and I am just one person who managed to control it, to survive from it and to get rid of it from my body.

"For me that is unbelievable - it is a miracle. I think I'm one of the luckiest people alive."

Mr Stimpson told the newspapers that he became depressed and suicidal after being told he was HIV-positive but remained well and did not require medication.

Further tests

Some 14 months later he was offered another test by doctors, which came back negative.

He sought compensation but has apparently been told there is no case to answer because there was no fault with the testing procedure.

Chelsea and Westminster Healthcare Trust have asked to conduct more tests on Mr Stimpson both for his benefit and for other patients.

He has told the papers he would do anything he could to help find a cure.

Aids expert Dr Patrick Dixon, from international Aids group Acet, said the case was "very, very unusual".

Vaccine clue

"I've come across many anecdotal reports of this kind of thing happening in Africa, some quite recently, but it's difficult to verify them," he told BBC News 24.

"You have to be rock-solid sure that both samples came from the same person, no mix-up in the laboratory, no mistakes in the testing, etc.

"This is the first well-documented case."

He said the case was important because "inside his immune system is perhaps a key that could allow us to develop some kind of vaccine".

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Although it sounds like it may be a hoax shrug

tracemhunter

13-11-2005 08:04:23

and then he woke up ;)

turpentinedreams

13-11-2005 08:55:26

they are developing a vaccine for hiv... it makes it so carriers are like 90% cured, like its mono or something

vinsanitee

13-11-2005 08:57:02

I just want to know what they gave Magic Johnson...

Daggoth

13-11-2005 08:59:17

Magic Johnson isnt cured...

The guy in the article is the first person to be cured, right?

Sweeney2066

13-11-2005 09:17:43

[quote0bb941bef0="Daggoth"]Magic Johnson isnt cured...

The guy in the article is the first person to be cured, right?[/quote0bb941bef0] Yeah I believe so. And first to cure himself without any medication or anything special.

EBPIsMaR

13-11-2005 09:25:57

who would take a vaccine for HIV? what if they gave lil too much?

Skunk

13-11-2005 09:39:32

It'd be nice if it's true...always great to see someone getting better from as deadly a disease as HIV or Cancer.

halfbreed

13-11-2005 09:58:01

[quote15e7bd6dcb="ebpismar"]who would take a vaccine for HIV? what if they gave lil too much?[/quote15e7bd6dcb]

What do they have to lose?

shortys408

13-11-2005 10:04:42

[quote620b786ab8="halfbreed"][quote620b786ab8="ebpismar"]who would take a vaccine for HIV? what if they gave lil too much?[/quote620b786ab8]

What do they have to lose?[/quote620b786ab8]

Normally you give vaccinations as a prevention. What people would have to loose is the possibility of getting HIV from the vaccine.

Sweeney2066

13-11-2005 10:04:50

[quotedb105cb88f="halfbreed"]

What do they have to lose?[/quotedb105cb88f]

I think he means like before you have HIV. And then if you took the vaccine and got a little too much and got infected.

CoMpFrEaK

13-11-2005 10:11:40

Very few bodies are able to produce the antibodies to fight HIV/AIDS, hes appearently one of the lucky ones. Scientists still have a lot to learn

FreeOffersNow

13-11-2005 10:16:02

[quote9ef77d79bc="CoMpFrEaK"]Very few bodies are able to produce the antibodies to fight HIV/AIDS, hes appearently one of the lucky ones. Scientists still have a lot to learn[/quote9ef77d79bc]


Thank you Dr. 16 year old. liclapsli

CoMpFrEaK

13-11-2005 10:20:52

[quoteb9c045dd70="FreeOffersNow"][quoteb9c045dd70="CoMpFrEaK"]Very few bodies are able to produce the antibodies to fight HIV/AIDS, hes appearently one of the lucky ones. Scientists still have a lot to learn[/quoteb9c045dd70]


Thank you Dr. 16 year old. liclapsli[/quoteb9c045dd70]

roll

whatisntseen

13-11-2005 11:06:22

quick note

vaccines arent necessarily a small amount of that particular virus. MAny vaccines are smal amounts of OTHER viruses that help to create the proper antibodies to fight another deadlier virus. Think of it like this. Measles are a diferent medical problem than chicken pox, they have similar problems though. Usually, if a person has the chicken pox, they will almost never get the measles because the proper antibodies were developed during the chicken pox infection..

Just my $.02

CollidgeGraduit

13-11-2005 11:36:37

[quote9928ac34ca="CoMpFrEaK"]Very few bodies are able to produce the antibodies to fight HIV/AIDS, hes appearently one of the lucky ones. Scientists still have a lot to learn[/quote9928ac34ca]

You should give some doctors a call and give them some of your insight roll

Skunk

13-11-2005 14:51:49

lmao..

JUNIOR6886

13-11-2005 16:14:03

[quote2881925f40="FreeOffersNow"][quote2881925f40="CoMpFrEaK"]Very few bodies are able to produce the antibodies to fight HIV/AIDS, hes appearently one of the lucky ones. Scientists still have a lot to learn[/quote2881925f40]


Thank you Dr. 16 year old. liclapsli[/quote2881925f40]

lol lol lol lol lol lol

jadem

14-11-2005 02:36:11

According to some articles I've read, the people who were "cured" in Africa had been repeatedely exposed to the virus multiple times which gave the impression that they were cured. Not long after they were not being exposed, the virus showed positive in test results, denouncing the claim that they were cured.

HIV/AIDS, Ebola and the plague are all very interesting diseases to me. lishrugli I'm weird.

dudeextrem2000

14-11-2005 17:16:10

so this vaccine what do they do give it to you then hook ya up and tell you to have fun to test it out? lol

CoMpFrEaK

14-11-2005 17:29:54

I dont like how the term vaccinne is being used here. There isnt a vaccinne to HIV/AIDs yet. They have pills/drugs that prevent HIV from turning into full blown AIDs, but thats about it.

theysayjump

14-11-2005 17:35:42

[quote943b6dee02="CoMpFrEaK"]I dont like how the term vaccinne is being used here. There isnt a vaccinne to HIV/AIDs yet. They have pills/drugs that prevent HIV from turning into full blown AIDs, but thats about it.[/quote943b6dee02]

[quote943b6dee02]He said the case was important because "[b943b6dee02]inside his immune system is perhaps a key that could allow us to develop some kind of vaccine[/b943b6dee02]".[/quote943b6dee02]

wink

whatisntseen

14-11-2005 17:44:24

what he said ^^

and my statement was simply explaining what vaccines were..

jadem

14-11-2005 17:52:42

Isn't there a chance that he never had HIV? Maybe his first test was a false positive? Or did they cover that angle in the article? ;)

CollidgeGraduit

14-11-2005 18:01:37

[quotea8842108ea="theysayjump"][quotea8842108ea="CoMpFrEaK"]I dont like how the term vaccinne is being used here. There isnt a vaccinne to HIV/AIDs yet. They have pills/drugs that prevent HIV from turning into full blown AIDs, but thats about it.[/quotea8842108ea]

[quotea8842108ea]He said the case was important because "[ba8842108ea]inside his immune system is perhaps a key that could allow us to develop some kind of vaccine[/ba8842108ea]".[/quotea8842108ea]

wink[/quotea8842108ea]

DONT GO AGAINST DR. 16 YEAR OLD!

Daggoth

14-11-2005 18:29:42

[quote6c3de67b86="jadem"]Isn't there a chance that he never had HIV? Maybe his first test was a false positive? Or did they cover that angle in the article? ;)[/quote6c3de67b86]

I believe this more than the article.

theysayjump

14-11-2005 18:34:17

[quotec0bf251688="jadem"]Isn't there a chance that he never had HIV? Maybe his first test was a false positive? Or did they cover that angle in the article? ;)[/quotec0bf251688]

[quotec0bf251688]Some 14 months later he was offered another test by doctors, which came back negative.

[bc0bf251688]He sought compensation but has apparently been told there is no case to answer because there was no fault with the testing procedure.[/bc0bf251688][/quotec0bf251688]

wink

CoMpFrEaK

14-11-2005 21:04:46

[quoteed2e47d2fb="CollidgeGraduit"][quoteed2e47d2fb="theysayjump"][quoteed2e47d2fb="CoMpFrEaK"]I dont like how the term vaccinne is being used here. There isnt a vaccinne to HIV/AIDs yet. They have pills/drugs that prevent HIV from turning into full blown AIDs, but thats about it.[/quoteed2e47d2fb]

[quoteed2e47d2fb]He said the case was important because "[bed2e47d2fb]inside his immune system is perhaps a key that could allow us to develop some kind of vaccine[/bed2e47d2fb]".[/quoteed2e47d2fb]

wink[/quoteed2e47d2fb]

DONT GO AGAINST DR. 16 YEAR OLD![/quoteed2e47d2fb]

Read the other posts, too many people mentioning vaccinnes

Archon810

17-11-2005 17:58:44

HA! I thought so

http//www.upi.com/ConsumerHealthDaily/view.php?StoryID=20051116-015251-1581r

mrwzk

17-11-2005 18:03:04

now he is gonna sue them watch, he is gonna claim he was near suicide once he found out he was gonna die soon. and try to collect damages for it

Archon810

17-11-2005 21:50:17

[quote96b828ee6e="mrwzk"]now he is gonna sue them watch, he is gonna claim he was near suicide once he found out he was gonna die soon. and try to collect damages for it[/quote96b828ee6e]

actually i wouldn't blame him. how would u feel if for a couple of years u'd think u're dying?

Scudhawk007

17-11-2005 21:58:27

[quotece09af5047="JUNIOR6886"][quotece09af5047="FreeOffersNow"][quotece09af5047="CoMpFrEaK"]Very few bodies are able to produce the antibodies to fight HIV/AIDS, hes appearently one of the lucky ones. Scientists still have a lot to learn[/quotece09af5047]


Thank you Dr. 16 year old. liclapsli[/quotece09af5047]

lol lol lol lol lol lol[/quotece09af5047]

lol Apparently Dr. 17 year old now. lol