hard drive overheating MAJORLY

so my computers acting very odd....i built it a few weeks ago, half new parts and half from my old desktop. it was very loud while playing sims 2, but i thought maybe just the video card was working overtime. then it was loud all night and loud even after a restart. this was while i had it next to my desk, and the side of the case that was next to the desk (i have an x-plorer case, same as that freepay computer has) is the side with a sort of ventilation-like thing....that im not really sure how it works...anyway, i had it against my desk and it was loud. so i left it in the middle under my desk 2 nights ago and checked the temperatures before going to bed. they were all good, 40 or less (celsius). the following morning they were still good. last night they began good, then i put it next to the desk again and this morning, my hard drive (the C drive) was at a 113 degrees celsius!!! so i turned the fans on max and put it back in the middle.

do u guys think this is just cuz of the placement? i left about 3" between it and the desk for ventilation but....damn thats a lot of overheating. and of all my hard drives, only that one wasnt normal O_o. i work for residential networking for my college and asked my coworkers about it and allthey said was that they were amazed it still worked and had no idea what caused it / how to prevent it. any ideas?

I cant help much, but i do know that hte temp sensors on computer hardware tend to be complete crap...

im thinking thats whats making it loud tho, cuz the night i left it in the middle it had good temp and not loud

hmmm.. has the temp gone back down?my only guess would be a bad HDD if its still high, but if it stays down under full load than I have no idea. Did yu touch the HDD when it was reading high values? That would have confirmed ti the sensor was working...

if its really loud normally i call that the scream of death
if you have s.m.a.r.t. on your mobo it will probably start freeking out soon.
you should deffinently backup important files and prepare a burial for the old hdd and prepare to buy a new one

also check to make sure its screwed in tight, it could just be rattling

mines freezes outta no where and locks up my computer, also makes weird ticking sounds...............

can't afford a new HD.. so i'll hae to live with that.....

hope your HD is ok, like turpentine says, do backup some stuff, you won't regret it ;)

what is s.m.a.r.t.? it was from my old desktop which was never loud ( i have backups of everything cuz i formatted this one when i put it in my new pc. it sounds like a really loud fan is the thing...which is why i thought it was my video card

tigerdirect is offering sata hdd's for $80
300gigs.

[quotebb33559935="mikedb"]hmmm.. has the temp gone back down?my only guess would be a bad HDD if its still high, but if it stays down under full load than I have no idea. Did yu touch the HDD when it was reading high values? That would have confirmed ti the sensor was working...[/quotebb33559935]

lol why would you touch the HDD to confirm the sensor reading
"hmm the temp reading on the oven is 300 degrees when it should say 200 degrees... id better put my hand in to check things out.." rofl

[quote6157062a15="kyks17"]what is s.m.a.r.t.? it was from my old desktop which was never loud ( i have backups of everything cuz i formatted this one when i put it in my new pc. it sounds like a really loud fan is the thing...which is why i thought it was my video card[/quote6157062a15]smart is a tool that reads for errors like scratches on drives.

i suggest backing everything up and preparing for the worst. i remember when my precious thermaltake psu blew up one night when i was playing cs. i could see it through my case window. that 300gb for 80 is a good deal. i need to get that so i can get on up to a tb.

113 F (45 Celcius) is not abnormally hot for a hard drive. Your internal case temperature will rise and fall with your room's ambient temperature and heat generated by your CPU and other devices. It's common for temperatures to fluctuate. I've seen quite a few drives, some in decently ventilated cases, run over 40C for years.

It's hard to tell what the noise is without a description. Is it high or low pitched? Is it more like a low pitched vibration or high pitched buzz?

Based on the temperature alone, there's nothing wrong with your hard drive. First make sure that the noise is actually coming from the drive before making an impulse buy. If you have important data, you should have that backed up regularly anyways.

SMART can detect certain physical behaviors within the drive that could possibly lead to failure, however it is not 100% accurate. You can read your drive's SMART status with a 3rd party application such as Active Smart.

The reason one drive would be hotter than the other would simply be the placement of the drive inside your case or the difference in the sensor on the drive. Unless you have extremely good ventilation, pockets of heat will build up inside the case, and the drive cage is one area in the case where air does not move that well. Hard drive coolers do exist to help combat this.

[quote1a52df3d93="JUNIOR6886"][quote1a52df3d93="mikedb"]hmmm.. has the temp gone back down?my only guess would be a bad HDD if its still high, but if it stays down under full load than I have no idea. Did yu touch the HDD when it was reading high values? That would have confirmed ti the sensor was working...[/quote1a52df3d93]

lol why would you touch the HDD to confirm the sensor reading
"hmm the temp reading on the oven is 300 degrees when it should say 200 degrees... id better put my hand in to check things out.." rofl[/quote1a52df3d93]

Well of course dont [i1a52df3d93]touch[/i1a52df3d93] it, what I meant is just to get a basic confurmation of the reading... if it feels hot from 3 inches away, than the sensor is valid... )

[quote8809a617a3="Avenger55"]113 F (45 Celcius) is not abnormally hot for a hard drive. Your internal case temperature will rise and fall with your room's ambient temperature and heat generated by your CPU and other devices. It's common for temperatures to fluctuate. I've seen quite a few drives, some in decently ventilated cases, run over 40C for years.

It's hard to tell what the noise is without a description. Is it high or low pitched? Is it more like a low pitched vibration or high pitched buzz?

Based on the temperature alone, there's nothing wrong with your hard drive. First make sure that the noise is actually coming from the drive before making an impulse buy. If you have important data, you should have that backed up regularly anyways.

SMART can detect certain physical behaviors within the drive that could possibly lead to failure, however it is not 100% accurate. You can read your drive's SMART status with a 3rd party application such as Active Smart.

The reason one drive would be hotter than the other would simply be the placement of the drive inside your case or the difference in the sensor on the drive. Unless you have extremely good ventilation, pockets of heat will build up inside the case, and the drive cage is one area in the case where air does not move that well. Hard drive coolers do exist to help combat this.[/quote8809a617a3]

but it was 113 celsius ( oh and im back home and its not loud anymore and temp is back down to 40 celsius. wtf!!

sorry, i misread. If that's the case, then either the sensor is bad, or the driver that is reading the sensor is not reading it correctly. The drive would fail long before reaching that temperature. What program are you using to read temps?

It is much more common to have inaccurate readings, especially within Windows, than it is to have a drive reach that temperature. In fact, you're lucky it didn't actually reach that temperature, because it would have probably been on fire. For safe operating temperatures, you really wouldn't want to see anything over 50 - 55 (40 - 45 for me personally). 113 would literally cook the drive in seconds.

yeah i guess it was jsut wrong, i was using speedfan, didnt really find any other program that sounded like it monitored everything.

im still wondering about the loudness now....what would make it get louder ( it sounded like a fan going more but they were the same pre/post loudness....(

[quote219d46b7ae="kyks17"]yeah i guess it was jsut wrong, i was using speedfan, didnt really find any other program that sounded like it monitored everything.

im still wondering about the loudness now....what would make it get louder ( it sounded like a fan going more but they were the same pre/post loudness....([/quote219d46b7ae]

Which fans are you referring to?

Some fans auto adjust to the cpu's tempature, if it gets too hot it speeds up.

my 2 case fans, cpu fan, and video card fan are the ones im talking about that were the same. but the cpu temperature stays stable around 37 degrees...

I would try another app, like Active Smart[=http//www.ariolic.com/activesmart/]Active Smart to monitor your HDD temps and SMART status.

Speedfan is not the most reliable in my experience.

ill try that when i get home ) im also taking a hard drive checking program home from work, maybe that'll help shed some light

ok so i got active smart. it says my primary master drive is 143, and my master on secondary is 109. is this F or C? and why dusnt it show the temp for my primary slave ( it shows everything else for it.

ive taken the side off my case until i receive my cooling goodies from newegg. got me sum case fans to put in the front blowing over my hds, and got sum hd coolers too. hopefully these will get things in order. a friggin wave of heat came out of my pc when i opened it O_o sigh

I know for a damn fact that those are F and not C. If those were actually C temps then your computer woulda been dead the second you turned the damn thing on. I'd advise buying a new HDD becuase it sounds like the Heads in your HDD are worn.

Those are Fahrenheit. 143 F is around 61 C, which IS a bit hot. 109 (42 C) for the other drive is normal. If it remains that hot with the side cover off, consider checking the warranty status on the manufacturer's website to see if you can RMA it. If it drops 10 or more deg Celcius, then you have airflow issues within your case (unlikely). What brand and model is that drive and how old is it?

side cover still off, temp still 143 ( its a samsung, came in my old computer that i got 2.5 years ago. i cant see the model without taking it out so im not sure wat model. it died b4 i built this computer...and by died i mean i was fairly certain it was windows that died, cuz my problem was it would boot up but not quite all the way. then doing a reinstall of the windows files fucked itentirely. formatting was fine tho, altho i have yet to run the hd hardware test. ill run that in a few hours and see...