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hairyferry

07-11-2005 21:49:03

Hey Guys,

So my brother built a Desktop for my girl and we're having some issues. Everything boots up fine everything seems to be working. I'm installing XP and after it formats during the initial installation it starts to copy the drivers. I've tried installing XP like 20 times and sometimes I get the blue screen of death, sometimes it just freezes, sometimes it says I'm missing a file so it never completes the copying of the drivers. I've used 3 different copies of XP that people have given me or I've had around the house. At first I thought it was the copy but after using 3 different ones I don't think it is. Any suggestions? Thanks a bunch.

~K

doylnea

07-11-2005 21:51:37

Are any of the 3 copies legitimate Microsoft CDs?

Allen626

07-11-2005 21:54:24

[quote2341355136="doylnea"]Are any of the 3 copies legitimate Microsoft CDs?[/quote2341355136]

That shoud not matter, could be a corrupted HDD? Or CD-ROM.

FreeOffersNow

07-11-2005 21:54:31

If its getting through even a portion of the installation I doubt its a hardware problem ( As unlikely as it is that you have 3 "bad" discs...it sounds like thats the problem.

JOSHBOX

07-11-2005 22:00:32

bad hdd or motherboard, probably motherboard.

hehehhehe

07-11-2005 22:02:48

Have you tried installing from a hard drive? Just copy the i386 folder to your hd and try to install from there.

hairyferry

07-11-2005 22:27:50

It's a brand new installation. Windows hasn't ever been on it before. Would the discs be bad even if one was used 3 days ago and it worked fine? The other ones also worked fine.

JOSHBOX

07-11-2005 22:50:19

i can almost garuntee its some sort of ide controller issue on the motherboard.

hairyferry

07-11-2005 22:51:27

da, i hope not, I just got the freakin thing and I really don't wanna send it back..... That's prolly something you can't check yourself to see if it works can ya??

whenrabbisattack

07-11-2005 23:53:18

this has happened to me before when using a copied disc (shame on me)... i just used the windows disc that came with my laptop and it worked fine.

hairyferry

08-11-2005 02:30:34

well I tried the head of the IT departments XP CD and it did the same thing.... Looks like I'm not getting out of this easily

dug1200

08-11-2005 05:33:33

it could be the ram...i had the same thing happen to me and the ram was not compatible with the board

Cash4Cookies

08-11-2005 05:38:10

It could be the discs dude, thats probebly what it is. What you should do is start it with one disc in, and if it gives you an error that it cant find a file, take that CD out, and put another one in, and just wait and see if it keeps copying the files. Some CD drives are more sensitive than otheres, and that has happened to me before. Just try that and see if it helps.

Admin

08-11-2005 08:25:31

in my experience this is a ram or motherboard compatibility issue. usually IDE drivers. xp is picky about them. try disabling features related to the IDE drivers in the bios and see if that helps. also, if you have a pci ide controller try disabling the onboard one and using that.

bullseye4u

08-11-2005 08:48:20

i build my own pc in my exprerice i put too much artic on the CPU that caused the computer turn off in 20 sec

dudelovesFinch1035

08-11-2005 09:59:56

Buy a Desktop,leave the building pcs to the professionals and shit

dug1200

08-11-2005 10:30:28

[quoteb92b37d4f7="dudelovesFinch1035"]Buy a Desktop,leave the building pcs to the professionals and shit[/quoteb92b37d4f7]

you make it sound like it is hard to build a computer....that is not the case at all

my guess is that you have a MSI board and cheap value ram that isnt compatible

dudelovesFinch1035

08-11-2005 11:55:00

[quotee4e93dac07="dug1200"][quotee4e93dac07="dudelovesFinch1035"]Buy a Desktop,leave the building pcs to the professionals and shit[/quotee4e93dac07]

you make it sound like it is hard to build a computer....that is not the case at all

my guess is that you have a MSI board and cheap value ram that isnt compatible[/quotee4e93dac07]We're not all geek-material you know lilino offenselili I don't know much about computers and shit like that...I just know how to turn 1 on and d/l stuff and or get on AIM something that my family can't do lol lol so yeah....

hairyferry

08-11-2005 13:02:32

That's what she ended up getting, cost her about $500 bucks with Keyboard and mouse also. ANyone see anything that might be wrong?

NEC Black IDE DVD Burner Model ND-3540A - OEM

AMD Athlon 64 3000+ Venice 1GHz FSB Socket 939 Processor

Foxconn NF4K8AC-RS-1.0 Socket 939 NVIDIA nForce4 ATX AMD Motherboard - Retail

Seagate Barracuda 7200.7 ST380817AS 80GB 7200 RPM Serial ATA150 Hard Drive - OEM

Kingston ValueRAM 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model KVR400X64C3A/512 - Retail

Airnet AWD154 PCI 802.11G Fast 54mb wireless PCI card - RetailMSI

RX300HM-TD128E Radeon X300SE HyperMemory 256MB Hyper Memory(128M VRAM on board) DDR PCI Express x16 Video Card - Retail

LEGACY 4.7GB 8X DVD-R 25 Pack Disc - Retail

POWMAX CP0327PL-4 Window Black/Silver SGCC ATX Mid Tower Computer Case 400W Power Supply - Retail

Acer AL1913W Black 19" 20ms Wide Screen LCD Monitor - Retail

slease

08-11-2005 13:11:55

only have 1 cd drive? have an external one you can try installing from?

agroman

08-11-2005 13:12:43

you could try out UltimateBootCD and run some of the memory tests to rule out any problems with your ram.

i'd also check that your HD and cdrom IDE/ATA cables are seated properly. i've had some similar problems and found out it was crappy IDE cables.

also, everest is a good tool for identifying hardware in your computer (handy when you forget exactly what the model # is of your motherboard). you can download it at www.lavalys.com ... i was able to identify a problem with my IDE controller in windows that was easily fixed by uninstalling and reinstalling the IDE controller driver (it had automagically downgraded DMA levels on me and wouldnt revert back to UDMA5)

dug1200

08-11-2005 13:34:43

[quotea8a7c98d43="dug1200"]cheap value ram that isnt compatible[/quotea8a7c98d43]

[quotea8a7c98d43="hairyferry"]That's what she ended up getting, cost her about $500 bucks with Keyboard and mouse also. ANyone see anything that might be wrong?

[ia8a7c98d43][ba8a7c98d43]Kingston ValueRAM[/ba8a7c98d43][/ia8a7c98d43] 512MB 184-Pin DDR SDRAM DDR 400 (PC 3200) Unbuffered System Memory Model KVR400X64C3A/512 - Retail
[/quotea8a7c98d43]

try using a stick of your ram...which you no is good and see if it will load

in my experiences with NVIDIA chipsets...valueram is hit or miss

Insaniac

08-11-2005 21:08:44

Are those parts all new (not used or bought on ebay or something)? I bought a P4 1.6A CPU and part of the L2 Cache was corrupt so I couldn't ever install SP1 or SP2 on windows XP. I had to use the original 2600 release 8)

I would almost guarantee that its not an issue with the disc's, but that its a hardware problem. My guess would be either the CPU or the RAM. Try both in different computers to see how they act and go from there.

hairyferry

08-11-2005 22:36:40

yeah everything is brand spankin new... with the new car smell included. My brother is taking it to school to run some tests on it in the morning so we'll see if he can find anything.

CoMpFrEaK

08-11-2005 22:45:28

It can be anything, biggest suspects would be the

1. motherboard
2. power supply
3. ram

kyks17

09-11-2005 01:22:07

[quote4320e06af2="dudelovesFinch1035"]Buy a Desktop,leave the building pcs to the professionals and shit[/quote4320e06af2]

but wheres the fun in that? D i wanna build another (

drummer_kew_03

09-11-2005 02:14:38

I decided to run that Everest program, cause my second hard drive has been getting louder and louder clicking all the time. I got this message.

[quote926a4ebbb7]Reallocated Sector Count - Pre-Failure Imminent loss of data is being predicted[/quote926a4ebbb7]

So I guess my hard drive could take a shit anytime now. I've had it for around 14 months now so the warranty is toast. I've looked around and it seems like there's no way to fix it. Is that right?

Admin

09-11-2005 07:48:18

pretty much. i'd make sure to get anything you value off of that drive. then you should decide what you want to do with it. i.e. sell on ebay as working but no warranty or just use it until it dies.

dudeextrem2000

09-11-2005 14:14:29

im interested in building a computer i've heard of a website that lets you go through and find stuff peice by piece is that right / what is it?

theman2005

09-11-2005 14:20:18

doing an update to the system bios seemed to work for me, i had that problem before. just be careful to select the right bios )

hairyferry

09-11-2005 14:28:01

well, found out the 512 stick of memory was back... Got that replaced now we're all good. I'd recommend Newegg.com, they're amazing and they've got some good combo deals.

dudeextrem2000

09-11-2005 19:57:42

[quotefc696acc19="hairyferry"]well, found out the 512 stick of memory was back... Got that replaced now we're all good. I'd recommend Newegg.com, they're amazing and they've got some good combo deals.[/quotefc696acc19]

k thx

xX TheSiege Xx

10-11-2005 11:33:56

Your brother built a desktop for your girlfriend?
Wow, thats a nice computer for $500