So I just put in $5920 into 12dailypro **PART 3** PAID!!!!!!

I don't want to do any recruiting here, just posting in response to this tread 3 weeks ago http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=24469 . Sorry to Admin in case he decides this is inappropriate, I tried asking him before posting this with no response from him.

I believe a couple of people called me stupid and laughed at me.

Well, after calculating 10 min a day that it took me for 18 days, I made about $1100/hour. Who's laughing now?

http//www.new-ipod.com/files/12dp_proof_10k.gif[" alt=""/imgcb3d0279a5].

P.S. I now have a ton of eGold to exchange with some of my referrals to make their life easier.

So...uh...can I borrow a couple thousand dollars? wink

As a little bonus, the exchange rate dropped since your deposit, so you actually got even more D

[quote21a01f0b03="idrinklisterine"]As a little bonus, the exchange rate dropped since your deposit, so you actually got even more D[/quote21a01f0b03]

true, i got more gold, but unless the rate goes up, it won't matter P i think it'll go up...

archon how much longer do you think that sites going to work? i mean, everybody is in agreement its not going to work forever right? however, i am thinking about putting some money in there.

[quote89fd1a5a26="Cash4Cookies"]archon how much longer do you think that sites going to work? i mean, everybody is in agreement its not going to work forever right? however, i am thinking about putting some money in there.[/quote89fd1a5a26]

i don't know but everyone's been telling me how it's going to go down any minute now and how i'm never going to see my money again. P I just wanna see JUNIOR's face when he reads this topic...

[quote89fd1a5a26="JUNIOR"]
depositing 6000 into a prymaid scheme? genious!!!!!!!! Rolling Eyes I could just imagine a letter like this being sent...

Oct 18th 2005

Dear valued Customer, (sucker)
12dailypro is sad to announce that our program has come to an end due to circumstances beyond our control. (we decided to run off with your cash) We will be unable to issue refunds to people who made a deposit nor will we be making any further payments. we hope you enjoyed using our program (PWNED!! Razz )[/quote89fd1a5a26]

stun HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!! you profited about 4000 bucks......
I must admit im slightly tempted to get into this program now.....

Yeah, but this speculation of it going under any minute has to have you a bit worried archon. If you invest another 6k, and it goes down, you would lose 2k overall. Definitely congrats though. I wish I had that kind of money.

What the fuck is e-Gold?

[quotef683ac9f2f="JUNIOR6886"]stun HOLY FUCKING SHIT!!!!!!!!! you profited about 4000 bucks......
I must admit im slightly tempted to get into this program now.....[/quotef683ac9f2f]

I'm sure everyone is, but I think the company has had its climax passed and now on the downfall. If you got into it when Archon did, you would have been all set.

e-gold is basically another type of Paypal system, I don't really know the difference but they work the same.

[quote1b99cf7733="flatline"]What the fuck is e-Gold?[/quote1b99cf7733]

e-gold is like paypal/stormpay

Got this from the 12DP forums.
[quote0502104bae="andrewunknown"]
Fellow 12DP Members,
I had an exchange with a member of 12DP who inquired about 12dp's sustainability through Christmas. The response I gave, I think, might be valuable for the many people who seem to be worried about the same thing. My apologies in advance (if necessary) to the individual who this response was initially intended for. And by the way, the subject of this thread isn't an actual question of mine. If one wanted the straight answer without reading the below, then I answer "YES!"

Here's the message

About 12dp being "sustainable till the end of year" unless some mad, apocalyptic craze concerning "people taking out all their money for the holidays, and so the program will fail" sweeps through all of 12DP's members, then yes, I am "confident" the program is sustainable. That doesn't mean 12DP is a ponzi but it does mean that a program isn't a "program" without a membership.

While I wouldn't suggest that members won't be taking profits this time of year - because they will be in greater numbers than at any other time, probably - the only way that this could harm the program is if it were a complete ponzi - new capital and capital obtained through reinvestment would slow to a trickle, preventing 12DP from making payouts. That is, after all, the assumption that drives the fear about the "holiday season", isn't it? Yes.

But 12dp isn't a ponzi scheme (believe it or not). They have external "streams" or ongoing sources of income that are viable with or without new member funds or existing member reinvestments. What are those streams? Doesn't matter, really, and I can't tell you what I know of them - that they are there is sufficient for the present discussion. What, then, is to prevent them from making payouts? If anything, people pulling their money for the "holiday season" (quotes = sarcasm I dislike that phrase) will lilessenli the burdensome quantity and amount of payouts. Fewer new members and reinvestments = fewer payouts = paying out, in total, less money - not more - than in the previous days and weeks.

The Christmas paranoia, as I've begun referring to it, is an online investment phenomenon some programs crop solely for the purpose of collecting "spending money", and then disappear with the funds in time for some last minute shopping. Other programs, typically that are ponzis, end up with a dried up stream of incoming funds - funds which have been diverted to shopping! - and fail. This second scenario is what most people are pinning on 12dp in their minds.

But the paranoia, in the case of 12dp at least, is not justified. There are complaints from 12dp members, and plenty of support tickets submitted, though no delayed payments. All is not roses among the members of 12dp. However, Charis runs a tight ship. 12DP's Administrative team planned this program - liplanned itli - and planned it well THAT is why things may seem atypically "together" around here. I know (for a fact) that Charis, her husband, and some others she consults are all talented and knowledgeable professionals who haven't simply opened a program and said "we will try, but let the chips fall where they may". No - they had a business model in place before they launched the program. They put that plan into play and have methodically followed it, adapting where necessary, but sticking to the heart of their plan. Part of their plan and what is responsible for the innovative nature of 12dp is their observation and study of the pre-12dp autosurf industry. Their driving question when planning 12dp was "What is lacking?" That would include questions about specific autosurf models "Why doesn't X work?" or "Why does Y seem like a good characteristic for a program to have, but ends up backfiring and compromising the program?" I don't have a transcript of their planning sessions of course, so that isn't intended to be a faithful representation, but the spirit of their work is there in those examples. They approached the construction of 12dp almost scientifically hypothesis, experiment, analysis, conclusion. Consequently, the program is a bona-fide "program" - it is liconfiguredli for reliability, longevity, and success. And yes, it will probably even survive Christmas!

Andrew Unknown
[/quote0502104bae]

damnit, im so fucking confused... should I deposit some money now??? i dont know what to do... x x x

if you can't afford to kiss the money goodbye, don't deposit shit.

[quotec6bf5eaa90="damac"]if you can't afford to kiss the money goodbye, don't deposit shit.[/quotec6bf5eaa90]

Don't invest what you can't afford to lose -general investing principle.
Most of you have all done a freebie site for paypal, just toss half of that money into the program if you're unsure of it. No one can say how long it is going to last, so when it's still going in January, you'll still all say it's going to die soon.
It's a risk like most investments, take it or leave it.

Congrats Archon!! This program looks awesome. Is there anyway you can buy e-gold with paypal? D

Is this flyers2 a.k.a flyersman?

[quotec8cc8e2fdb="Averagejoe1039"]Is this flyers2 a.k.a flyersman?[/quotec8cc8e2fdb]

haha, that makes two of us wondering that... shock

In response to the post up above.The main thing that is going to affect 12dp is when new money stops comming in.Once cash inflow comes to a halt they can no longer afford to pay the older members who need to be paid.Therefore the whole ponzie scheme will fail

unless they've ben putting all the money into google stock since the start P

[quoteb187b3c641="Averagejoe1039"]Is this flyers2 a.k.a flyersman?[/quoteb187b3c641]
Who is Flyersman?

I have a bit of feeling this may be him again.....

[quote9f264b105b="Averagejoe1039"]I have a bit of feeling this may be him again.....[/quote9f264b105b]
Please tell me who flyersman is.

He was a BIG scammer back in the days of FIG.

[quote5627f09165="Flyers2"][quote5627f09165="Averagejoe1039"]I have a bit of feeling this may be him again.....[/quote5627f09165]
Please tell me who flyersman is.[/quote5627f09165]

Lol, it probebly is, he is deffinatly playing the whole "who is that" thing way too hard.

[quote049bcf9f82="Averagejoe1039"]He was a BIG scammer back in the days of FIG.[/quote049bcf9f82]Okay, thanks for a response. You guys were scaring me for a minute. Whoever he is I'm not even partially related or to this person. Plus why would a scammer come back with a similar name?

[quote81925561d2="Flyers2"][quote81925561d2="Averagejoe1039"]He was a BIG scammer back in the days of FIG.[/quote81925561d2]Okay, thanks for a response. You guys were scaring me for a minute. Whoever he is I'm not even partially related or to this person. Plus why would a scammer come back with a similar name?[/quote81925561d2]

dunno

[quote54507b75ce="cartrenroy"][quote54507b75ce="Flyers2"][quote54507b75ce="Averagejoe1039"]He was a BIG scammer back in the days of FIG.[/quote54507b75ce]Okay, thanks for a response. You guys were scaring me for a minute. Whoever he is I'm not even partially related or to this person. Plus why would a scammer come back with a similar name?[/quote54507b75ce]

Born in [b54507b75ce]August 12 1989[/b54507b75ce]

Thats why (do you want more info?)[/quote54507b75ce]

Also, Scammers are complete retards!

[quote4ad07ebf39="cartrenroy"][quote4ad07ebf39="Flyers2"][quote4ad07ebf39="Averagejoe1039"]He was a BIG scammer back in the days of FIG.[/quote4ad07ebf39]Okay, thanks for a response. You guys were scaring me for a minute. Whoever he is I'm not even partially related or to this person. Plus why would a scammer come back with a similar name?[/quote4ad07ebf39]

Born in [b4ad07ebf39]August 12 1989[/b4ad07ebf39]

Thats why (do you want more info?)[/quote4ad07ebf39]
What does this mean? Please explain.

[quote201dfec20d="Flyers2"][quote201dfec20d="cartrenroy"][quote201dfec20d="Flyers2"][quote201dfec20d="Averagejoe1039"]He was a BIG scammer back in the days of FIG.[/quote201dfec20d]Okay, thanks for a response. You guys were scaring me for a minute. Whoever he is I'm not even partially related or to this person. Plus why would a scammer come back with a similar name?[/quote201dfec20d]

Born in [b201dfec20d]August 12 1989[/b201dfec20d]

Thats why (do you want more info?)[/quote201dfec20d]
What does this mean? Please explain.[/quote201dfec20d]

I can post all the information (name, etc) - if thats not you then you don't care, right?

[quote7044c952b9="cartrenroy"][quote7044c952b9="Flyers2"][quote7044c952b9="cartrenroy"][quote7044c952b9="Flyers2"][quote7044c952b9="Averagejoe1039"]He was a BIG scammer back in the days of FIG.[/quote7044c952b9]Okay, thanks for a response. You guys were scaring me for a minute. Whoever he is I'm not even partially related or to this person. Plus why would a scammer come back with a similar name?[/quote7044c952b9]

Born in [b7044c952b9]August 12 1989[/b7044c952b9]

Thats why (do you want more info?)[/quote7044c952b9]
What does this mean? Please explain.[/quote7044c952b9]

I can post all the information (name, etc) - if thats not you then you don't care, right?[/quote7044c952b9]
Yeah, you can post all of that guys info. I don't care a bit. D

[quote5487c7ada1="Flyers2"][quote5487c7ada1="cartrenroy"][quote5487c7ada1="Flyers2"][quote5487c7ada1="cartrenroy"][quote5487c7ada1="Flyers2"][quote5487c7ada1="Averagejoe1039"]He was a BIG scammer back in the days of FIG.[/quote5487c7ada1]Okay, thanks for a response. You guys were scaring me for a minute. Whoever he is I'm not even partially related or to this person. Plus why would a scammer come back with a similar name?[/quote5487c7ada1]

Born in [b5487c7ada1]August 12 1989[/b5487c7ada1]

Thats why (do you want more info?)[/quote5487c7ada1]
What does this mean? Please explain.[/quote5487c7ada1]

I can post all the information (name, etc) - if thats not you then you don't care, right?[/quote5487c7ada1]
Yeah, you can post all of that guys info. I don't care a bit. D[/quote5487c7ada1]

nah, I don't want to get banned

^^
Flyers2 = gratisrocks
Waiting on the ban.
Dude, you shoulda played it cool... you went in way too hard on the whole "IM NOT EVEN PARTIALLY RELATED TO HIM" thing.

[quote89326a7c65="goofygarber"]^^
Flyers2 = gratisrocks
Waiting on the ban.
Dude, you shoulda played it cool... you went in way too hard on the whole "IM NOT EVEN PARTIALLY RELATED TO HIM" thing.[/quote89326a7c65]
goofygarber, you can think what you want. You can even get the admin to do an i.p. check if you want.

Yet again, you're too quick to jump the gun.

haha, so flyersman, I guess "Dantes Gifts Network" didn't ever launch, eh? Don't play stupid. I never though anyone would be stupid enough to come back as flyers[b69b1000aef]2[/b69b1000aef] after being flyersman, but then again it makes sense since its you we are talking about.

you can always read right through someones lie whenever they are so quick to defend themselves. Im sure he covered his bases with the IP thing, thats why he said to do an IP check.

No kidding =\
Hes way too quick to defend himself, and he has really specific ways of proving his identity. If he didn't do anything, why would he have to prove himself against someone he shouldn't have heard of until 20 minutes ago.

why in the world would he coem back under a similar name? although the s after flyer is quite suspicious...

Flyers address is this


If that matches flyers2, it's totally flyers. Im not trying to flame a newb, I just hate newbies getting scammed by Flyersman. He scammed me BAD.

Superman30478 Is this flyers2 on fig?
Flyersman67 hey
Flyersman67 u im me?
Superman30478 YEah
Superman30478 I wanted to trade with you
Superman30478 Your flyers2 right?
Flyersman67 no
Flyersman67 whered you get this s/n
Superman30478 Well it was on fig
Flyersman67 like where in a topic profile
Superman30478 Yeah
Flyersman67 which one
Superman30478 I can't remeber
Superman30478 Im a newbie
Superman30478 And I saw it on there
Superman30478 Are you flyers2?
flyersman67 Ok

Conversation between us.

lol thats like me commin in here and saying im not IsMaR

whats FIG?

[quote8c3bbfc811="EBPIsMaR"]whats FIG?[/quote8c3bbfc811]

roll

Freeipodguide....

i tought FIPG was freeipodguide... then FIG was somethign else cause he said back in FIG days or somethign

[quotea5f8425bda="Averagejoe1039"]Flyers address is this
5757 SW 89TH LANE
COOPER CITY,FL

If that matches flyers2, it's totally flyers. Im not trying to flame a newb, I just hate newbies getting scammed by Flyersman. He scammed me BAD.[/quotea5f8425bda]

Seriously? I live in cooper city florida. How many people did he scam?

I'm sure you really care with your 2 posts.

[quote05d90110d7="bballp6699"]I'm sure you really care with your 2 posts.[/quote05d90110d7] Eh i just got here. But i was just surpised to live in the same exact city as him (its a small city). And I don't like scammers.

He had a big scam circle.

He isn't/wasn't Flyersman but he is both of these guys

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=5619

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=2299

Goodbye http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/3585c3ff993bc30088a54e3019fbbc07.gif[" alt=""/img6761157a4b]

lol, nice one jump. ;)

haha, a scammer coming back as another scammers name...

Okay I knew he was fishy

[quote1b0adab828="ajrock2000"]lol, nice one jump. ;)

haha, a scammer coming back as another scammers name...[/quote1b0adab828]
Oh the irony!

[quote3780c6c9e7="clerick"][quote3780c6c9e7="ajrock2000"]lol, nice one jump. ;)

haha, a scammer coming back as another scammers name...[/quote3780c6c9e7]
Oh the irony![/quote3780c6c9e7]
He probably wouldn't have raised suspicions if he chose a unique name.

What an idiot.

it's funny how for 90% of the posts you guys managed to stay off-topic. amazing! lol

[quotee0912a988d="Archon810"]it's funny how for 90% of the posts you guys managed to stay off-topic. amazing! lol[/quotee0912a988d]

Sit down and shut up.


Proceed in the off-topic discussion!

;) (just messin with ya Archie-poo)

[quote17ada753dd="Archon810"]it's funny how for 90% of the posts you guys managed to stay off-topic. amazing! lol[/quote17ada753dd]

At least a scammer was caught! The conversation could have been much worse.

I'm an achron 12dp ref, I put $12 in yesterday and $12 in today and I've apparently made $4.32.

Yay?

man i wish i could put $6000 in. i have the funds, but dunt wanna pay however many % it is to put it into egold. so im goin off my initial $192 deposit, should get to the $6000 level right before my bday and have a nice $2500 payment right around my bday....D

and i'm paid yet again!
I now get paid about $1.5k profit every 6 days (starting next cycle, this time it was $1k profit).

http//www.new-ipod.com/files/12dp_proof4.gif[" alt=""/img09dd391406]

I really hope you've pulled your initial deposit out - or gotten your money back in dividends. These sites tend to crash around the Holidays when everyone withdraws their money to pay for gifts and such...

Got paid $4200 today in eGold for a $2400 deposit. Another $3500 for $2000 deposit is pending. Life's good! Too lazy to make screenshots P

That's what money does to you Archie-poo, it makes you lazy and I see that it has already claimed another victim cry

I hate egold though. It seems ultra shady to me that they have no problems taking your money but wont simply let you witdraw it. ?

[quotee39171e5a7="JUNIOR6886"]I hate egold though. It seems ultra shady to me that they have no problems taking your money but wont simply let you witdraw it. ?[/quotee39171e5a7]

egold is far from shady. they've been around since 1991.

it's not like they dont let u withdraw it, they just a currency. just think of egold as french franks. u exchange them via gold exchangers. u dont just buy franks by attaching a bank account to them u know.

it's so far from shady that i can't believe u're saying that.

i'm now about $9-10k up if i stopped now. and if all goes down, i'm $3-4k up pure profit.

jeez louise! Do you even have a job Archon or do you just do this!!!?!?!

[quote691e4e7420="cwncool"]jeez louise! Do you even have a job Archon or do you just do this!!!?!?![/quote691e4e7420]

I have a job and I do this, so both ) If u haven't heard, I work at Intel...

is there anyway to buy e-gold with stormpay? ?

nope, unless u pay somebody stormpay and they'd send u egold (like me, but only for my referrals).