Wow, conversation between a 12dailypro supporter and me

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=25595

CoMpFrEaK

02-11-2005 18:33:03

persian487 hey
compcrazy722 hi
persian487 do u know where i got ur aim?
compcrazy722 no
persian487 have u heard of 12dailypro?
compcrazy722 yes, and i'm totally against it
persian487 haha why
compcrazy722 the business model doesnt hold up, its going to collaspe
persian487 do u know exactly what their business is like?
persian487 business modelli
compcrazy722 yea, 44% return within 12 days
persian487 ok...i just dont understand why ur against it
persian487 do u have any proof?
persian487 of why u think so
compcrazy722 proof?
compcrazy722 tell me, which business is able to pay a 44% return to its members within 12 days
persian487 its actually 20 days
compcrazy722 if no one else joins the site then its going to collaspe
compcrazy722 only reason its still paying is cause more people get suckered into it
persian487 haha do u have proof of that?
compcrazy722 4daily
compcrazy722 same scheme
persian487 4daily copied off 12dp
compcrazy722 lol 4daily was around prior to 12daily, if i'm not mistaken
compcrazy722 in a business world its not about proving it, its all speculation
compcrazy722 until it actually happens
persian487 ok...to tell u the truth...i just got paid $5k
persian487 from 12dp
persian487 exactly 10 min ago
compcrazy722 i never said it dosent pay
persian487 ok u can say whatever u want...but u do not know how their business works
compcrazy722 lets make this example radical
compcrazy722 if i put in 1 million
persian487 so u can scrutinize it
compcrazy722 then i'm suppose to have 440,000 back
persian487 cantli
compcrazy722 where is the 440,000 comming from?
persian487 no...the maximum u can put in is $6k
persian487 minimum is $
persian487 $6
compcrazy722 well you can say its 25 friends doing it all at the same time
persian487 if they tell u where they get their 44%, we wouldnt need 12dailypro...we would go and do it ourselves
compcrazy722 the deposit you put in is what the people who deposited prior to you get paid with, so their 44% are from your deposits. While you depend on new people to get paid to
persian487 thats not true
compcrazy722 lol now your saying they invest your $$$?
persian487 they say they invest it
persian487 i dont
compcrazy722 lol
compcrazy722 if they were that good investors they wouldnt need to open a site
compcrazy722 they would be the highs of wall street
persian487 well, they dont actually go out and make the 44%, u have to know how they make their money....unfortunately no one does
compcrazy722 how old are you?
persian487 18
compcrazy722 cause you seem really closed minded to reality
compcrazy722 the numbers just dont add up
persian487 sometimes ignorance is bliss
compcrazy722 sure making that quick money is nice
compcrazy722 but be warned, the most profitiable investments are sometimes the most risky
compcrazy722 if you get in on 12dailypro at the right time you'll make a lot
compcrazy722 i'll admit that
compcrazy722 but if your on the bottom of the prymid then your screwed
persian487 haha its not a pyramid
persian487 i did my research
compcrazy722 lol
persian487 dont look at my age man
compcrazy722 go try to add up the numbers
persian487 i made 12k in one week doin something else
persian487 when i know something works i know
compcrazy722 I'm 17 and i'm able to see through this
compcrazy722 Though i'm also more known to play consertivally
compcrazy722 You'll really know if 12dailypro "works" in 2-3 years when the domain dosent even exist, though i personally say give it a 1/2 year to a year and it should be done
persian487 by then i make half a mil with this company
persian487 im already in profits
compcrazy722 Which just like Warren Buffet, would reinvest it all, though in this model you'd lose it all
compcrazy722 Companys arnt here to make you rich, they are here to profit, and how do you expect a company to pay you 1/2 million?
persian487 this company is here to make u rich
persian487 trust me
persian487 this company will revolutionize this industry
compcrazy722 you've got the brains of a freshmen
persian487 thats all i need to make money
compcrazy722 make a lose it all, sure

CoMpFrEaK

02-11-2005 18:33:38

Cliff Notes
He supports it, i dont
The facts and figures dont add up

KeithA

02-11-2005 18:37:48

These schemes are crazy. I'm always amazed that they persist for as long as I do, given that they're usually against the law.

CoMpFrEaK

02-11-2005 18:38:33

[quotec1857f014e="KeithA"]These schemes are crazy. I'm always amazed that they persist for as long as I do, given that they're usually against the law.[/quotec1857f014e]

Its just amazing how stubborn some people are.

Allen626

02-11-2005 18:38:43

It is just another form of gambling, and one that is guarnteed to be a lose for some. Like all gambling.

CoMpFrEaK

02-11-2005 18:41:16

[quote24637738bf="Allen626"]It is just another form of gambling, and one that is guarnteed to be a lose for some. Like all gambling.[/quote24637738bf]

Eventually everyone will lose, the people who win are people who are enjoying it now. Without new growth it will fail

Blink182=Gone

02-11-2005 18:47:04

[quotec4603bcd78="CoMpFrEaK"][quotec4603bcd78="Allen626"]It is just another form of gambling, and one that is guarnteed to be a lose for some. Like all gambling.[/quotec4603bcd78]

Eventually everyone will lose, the people who win are people who are enjoying it now. Without new growth it will fail[/quotec4603bcd78]

agreed.

theysayjump

02-11-2005 18:47:57

I can see the appeal; Make some quick cash.

But to invest the amount of money that some people are is ridiculous. The sad part is that there are probably people investing in this kind of scheme who really can't afford it, and who are thinking that all their financial troubles will be solved.

It's along the same lines as themilliondollarfreebie site. People are investing money in it when they have no guarantee that they will actually get anything back.

mr_black

02-11-2005 18:49:49

[quote4ee9668d48="CoMpFrEaK"]Cliff Notes
He supports it, i dont
The facts and figures dont add up[/quote4ee9668d48]

lol nice...I do 12dp but i only put in 60 all the rest of the $$ i make is from refs when i get this pay out(my 2nd) ima take my 60 back and put 80% of the remainder back since im getting my 60 back i dont care if it goes down...im just recyling free money 8) so i agree w/ the fact that it wont last...I just hope I make a few k b4 it goes down

goofygarber

02-11-2005 18:51:13

lol black-o hasn't changed his title yet )

mr_black

02-11-2005 18:53:47

[quoteec446164fd="goofygarber"]lol black-o hasn't changed his title yet )[/quoteec446164fd]
i figure why change it when the person that changed it will prolly change it back...why waste money?

btw garber u might wanna tinyurl ur link in ur sig...cuz any1 w/ .5 a brain will figure it out P

ragefu

02-11-2005 18:57:56

I signed up under him too, and he's always like oh I made 10k this week or some shit. I'm wondering why he's wasting his time with my $6 deposit if hes making that kind of cash.

And its really stupid, you have to upgrade every 12 days or your account will expire, the upgrade price keeps going up every time you upgrade, and you can't use the money you make from surfing to upgrade. So everything is out of your own pocket until you let the account expire and then cash out. I can tell you I wouldn't be risking thousands on this, and I don't even believe he is either.

Archon810

02-11-2005 20:06:48

[quotea2bcdc4592="ragefu"]I signed up under him too, and he's always like oh I made 10k this week or some shit. I'm wondering why he's wasting his time with my $6 deposit if hes making that kind of cash.

And its really stupid, you have to upgrade every 12 days or your account will expire, the upgrade price keeps going up every time you upgrade, and you can't use the money you make from surfing to upgrade. So everything is out of your own pocket until you let the account expire and then cash out. I can tell you I wouldn't be risking thousands on this, and I don't even believe he is either.[/quotea2bcdc4592]

what the hell are you talking about? u dont have to upgrade for 30 days after ur first upgrade matures and u dont have to make bigger upgrades.
my $10k is coming tomorrow or friday, i'll be sure to post a screenie.

ragefu

02-11-2005 20:12:50

[quote0667b82e84="Archon810"][quote0667b82e84="ragefu"]I signed up under him too, and he's always like oh I made 10k this week or some shit. I'm wondering why he's wasting his time with my $6 deposit if hes making that kind of cash.

And its really stupid, you have to upgrade every 12 days or your account will expire, the upgrade price keeps going up every time you upgrade, and you can't use the money you make from surfing to upgrade. So everything is out of your own pocket until you let the account expire and then cash out. I can tell you I wouldn't be risking thousands on this, and I don't even believe he is either.[/quote0667b82e84]

what the hell are you talking about? u dont have to upgrade for 30 days after ur first upgrade matures and u dont have to make bigger upgrades.
my $10k is coming tomorrow or friday, i'll be sure to post a screenie.[/quote0667b82e84]

Just to clear it up, I was referring to Persian in my post, not you. But your right, its 30 days, it just sucks you have to put your own money in to upgrade, you can't use the money you earned on there.

akalic

02-11-2005 20:14:45

haha nice nice

tsanghan

02-11-2005 20:58:40

hahah nice he tryed to get me to sign up
lol

Allen626

02-11-2005 21:06:31

He tried to get me too, he probaly tried to get a lot of people.

lalalala

02-11-2005 21:09:32

persian487 well, they dont actually go out and make the 44%, u have to know how they make their money....unfortunately no one does

Bwhahahahaha

CoMpFrEaK

02-11-2005 21:21:55

Hes the biggest dumbass ever

Archon810

02-11-2005 21:42:13

[quote0d844fce41="ragefu"][quote0d844fce41="Archon810"][quote0d844fce41="ragefu"]I signed up under him too, and he's always like oh I made 10k this week or some shit. I'm wondering why he's wasting his time with my $6 deposit if hes making that kind of cash.

And its really stupid, you have to upgrade every 12 days or your account will expire, the upgrade price keeps going up every time you upgrade, and you can't use the money you make from surfing to upgrade. So everything is out of your own pocket until you let the account expire and then cash out. I can tell you I wouldn't be risking thousands on this, and I don't even believe he is either.[/quote0d844fce41]

what the hell are you talking about? u dont have to upgrade for 30 days after ur first upgrade matures and u dont have to make bigger upgrades.
my $10k is coming tomorrow or friday, i'll be sure to post a screenie.[/quote0d844fce41]

Just to clear it up, I was referring to Persian in my post, not you. But your right, its 30 days, it just sucks you have to put your own money in to upgrade, you can't use the money you earned on there.[/quote0d844fce41]

what do u mean u have to use the money u earned there!? u get the money u earn and reinvest it! you can't compound, but u can wait for ur payment and reinvest.

and to all people who are lolling, heh, i calculated it out, it comes to $1100/hour in the past 3 weeks for me. LOL!

bluedino

02-11-2005 21:47:54

[quote86dec5e731="CoMpFrEaK"]Hes the biggest dumbass ever[/quote86dec5e731]
lol I couldn't have said it better myself.
I never was interested in this crap site cause you MUST upgrade just not for me I guess ?

stockmanjr

02-11-2005 21:59:54

[quote2d2cd63132="Archon810"][quote2d2cd63132="ragefu"]I signed up under him too, and he's always like oh I made 10k this week or some shit. I'm wondering why he's wasting his time with my $6 deposit if hes making that kind of cash.

And its really stupid, you have to upgrade every 12 days or your account will expire, the upgrade price keeps going up every time you upgrade, and you can't use the money you make from surfing to upgrade. So everything is out of your own pocket until you let the account expire and then cash out. I can tell you I wouldn't be risking thousands on this, and I don't even believe he is either.[/quote2d2cd63132]
what the hell are you talking about? u dont have to upgrade for 30 days after ur first upgrade matures and u dont have to make bigger upgrades.
my $10k is coming tomorrow or friday, i'll be sure to post a screenie.[/quote2d2cd63132]
I wouldnt count my chickens before they hatch...It could go out of business at any moment...