Ebay troubles :-(

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=25536

JOSHBOX

01-11-2005 21:51:22

Tell me what you guys think I should do

Basicly this guy is trying to blackmail me with my feedback to get $25 back on one my auctions.

His email to me

Hi
I got the unit yesterday and I'm very dissapointed. In your
auction you stated and I qoute"You are bidding on a lislightlyli
used Archos Gmini 220 MP3 player. It is almost perfect
condition cosmetically and works great." The screen is scratches
all over it including a spot that seems like it won't come
off,pretty annoying. You didn;t mention anything
aboutlight scratches on
the unit. So I think your item description was off the mark. It
does seem to work fine and i'm happy with that.. So here are
some options I'm offering to you. 1.) I would either like a refund
in full. 2.) you paypal me 25.00 and I leave you great
feedback.3.) I open up an item dispute and leave negative
feedback. I feel that your description was not accurate.
Please let me know how we can resolve this I think the 25.00 is
the fairest way and the least amount of hassle for bith of us.
I would actually only be getting back 15.00 since i paid
10.00 for shipping. please email asap.
shawn


My email back

Im sorry that you were not satisfied but i definetly do not feel that $25 is a fair refund. You said "The screen is scratches all over it including a spot that seems like it won't come off, pretty annoying. You didn't mention anything", That would be an understandable annoyance except for the fact that I did mention it in the description when I said "It is ALMOST perfect condition cosmetically". Unfortunately those scratches were the ONLY cosmetic damages I found on the unit and seeing as how they are so minor you cant see them except when its held up to the light, I decided to omit them from the listing information. I am really sorry that you feel like you were misled but there really was no dishonesty and no intention of misleading bidders when I posted this. Im sorry that you expected it to be NEW but it was listed as a like new item. Please get back to me before making any decisions.

cartrenroy

01-11-2005 22:02:47

Tell him to fill dispute (you will win) - Tell him that your description was precise, tell him that you would like to start a dispute with eBay to see their point of view (you will definately win)

JOSHBOX

01-11-2005 22:03:45

I know but I dont want the negative feedback, it will hit me hard since i currently only have 16 positive.

CoMpFrEaK

01-11-2005 22:05:56

[quotede40f7ea91="JOSHBOX"]I know but I dont want the negative feedback, it will hit me hard since i currently only have 16 positive.[/quotede40f7ea91]


i'll throw you a free posistive if needed, we can alawys jack it up

JOSHBOX

01-11-2005 22:16:02

Thanks, appreciated. Man This douche fucking pisses me off. If he had told me he was unhappy I would have gladly refunded his shipping it just really pisses me off that he made me feel like I was getting blackmailed.

Admin

01-11-2005 22:35:39

i got my first neutral on my account a couple weeks ago, but i have 100+ positive already so i don't care that much. at a mere 16, i'd open the dispute and risk the neg since you can just ditch the account and start over with minimal loss.

JOSHBOX

01-11-2005 22:39:07

hes at 118 feedback with 2 neg so im sure he wont want a 3rd ;-)

right back at that bitch -)

lakersin2025

01-11-2005 23:46:16

I was just going to post something like this. I hate it when you buy something and you pay right away and they don't give you feedback until you do. Whenever I sell something I always give them feedback right when they pay. I say don't give this guy a dime. Let him try and dispute. If he wanted new he should have looked for an item marked"unopened, sealed". What a dick.

LucaBella

02-11-2005 07:04:21

Someone tried something like that on me, but worse. I sold them a brand new laptop, advertised as shipping within one day. Then the damn storms came and it was tough as post offices were closed for days due to power problems.

He gets his laptop, shipped 2 -day priority, but a week late. He asks for poz feedback making no mention of being upset or unhappy. He waits for me to give it, then writes back saying he paid for "premium" shipping since my shipping charge was like 60 bux (always roll in the paypal fees and refund it if they don't use it) and that he wanted like 50 of it back, he was like "I think that's fair".

I basically told him that I can't control the weather, wouldn't refund a dime since he paid for priority and that's what he got, and that his sneaky "leave me feedback" ruse was basically blackmail and ended my response with "that kind of thing is between you and your god"

and he got all defensive and bible crazy and we argued more, but he never left bad feedback.

All in all, I think Admin makes a valid response. Risk it. 16 feedbacks is low enough that you can start over, and do more damage by leaving him neg feedback too. The way its worded just seems wrong, total blackmail.

hehehhehe

02-11-2005 08:17:21

I would forward that email to ebay support. Feedback blackmail is against the rules and so maybe they can do something. It'll take a few days though, so email the guy and tell him you're thinking about what to do.

If that doesn't work, risk the neg. 16 is not much to lose like everyone says.

PoPoJiJo

02-11-2005 08:42:51

Yeah don't give into this chump

JOSHBOX

02-11-2005 08:57:15

sent an email to ebay about this fag, im sure they can sort it out.

hrdfarkr

02-11-2005 09:11:30

if he leaves negative feedback (after you tell him to suck it) simply use your reply space to post that he tried to blackmail you for postive feedback.

doylnea

02-11-2005 09:58:08

lookup "feedback extortion" on eBay Help and then send him that link.

dudeextrem2000

02-11-2005 15:11:16

[quote507c4fdd65="doylnea"]lookup "feedback extortion" on eBay Help and then send him that link.[/quote507c4fdd65]

lol, then send him this


http//www.omgpwned.net/pics/owned/tankguy.jpg[" alt=""/img507c4fdd65]


lol

J4320

02-11-2005 15:34:22

^^^

http//www.trimpe.org/jr/pictures/cantseeshit1.jpg[" alt=""/imgc40eb440c9]

ditto_mark

02-11-2005 16:13:45

wow nice picture roll


also - the fact that he was willing to accept a full refund for returning the item should prove that he is not trying to take advantage of you.
that should show you that he feels he did not get what was advertised.
if i won an "almost perfect" item that had a blotch on the screen that was unfixible i'd be pretty upset too.

J4320

02-11-2005 16:45:55

[quote595cb68e7f="ditto_mark"][b595cb68e7f]wow nice picture[/b595cb68e7f] roll


also - the fact that he was willing to accept a full refund for returning the item should prove that he is not trying to take advantage of you.
that should show you that he feels he did not get what was advertised.
if i won an "almost perfect" item that had a blotch on the screen that was unfixible i'd be pretty upset too.[/quote595cb68e7f]

That pic meant that the image wasn't showing up for me.

It works now though.

ditto_mark

02-11-2005 16:59:53

[quoted42564c0cc="J4320"][quoted42564c0cc="ditto_mark"][bd42564c0cc]wow nice picture[/bd42564c0cc] roll


also - the fact that he was willing to accept a full refund for returning the item should prove that he is not trying to take advantage of you.
that should show you that he feels he did not get what was advertised.
if i won an "almost perfect" item that had a blotch on the screen that was unfixible i'd be pretty upset too.[/quoted42564c0cc]

That pic meant that the image wasn't showing up for me.

It works now though.[/quoted42564c0cc]

my "wow nice picture roll" comment was for the supersized "dont steal our picutres" that dude extreme STILL hasnt fixed i cant even see your picture

J4320

02-11-2005 17:07:19

[quote7db83b8ac8="ditto_mark"][quote7db83b8ac8="J4320"][quote7db83b8ac8="ditto_mark"][b7db83b8ac8]wow nice picture[/b7db83b8ac8] roll


also - the fact that he was willing to accept a full refund for returning the item should prove that he is not trying to take advantage of you.
that should show you that he feels he did not get what was advertised.
if i won an "almost perfect" item that had a blotch on the screen that was unfixible i'd be pretty upset too.[/quote7db83b8ac8]

That pic meant that the image wasn't showing up for me.

It works now though.[/quote7db83b8ac8]

my "wow nice picture roll" comment was for the supersized "dont steal our picutres" that dude extreme STILL hasnt fixed i cant even see your picture[/quote7db83b8ac8]

Oh, I thought you were talking about mine because you posted that right under my post.

KeithA

02-11-2005 17:09:25

[quote042106d0db="J4320"][quote042106d0db="ditto_mark"][b042106d0db]wow nice picture[/b042106d0db]
my "wow nice picture roll" comment was for the supersized "dont steal our picutres" that dude extreme STILL hasnt fixed i cant even see your picture[/quote042106d0db]
Oh, I thought you were talking about mine because you posted that right under my post.[/quote042106d0db]

Will you two just get a room? Jeez...

ditto_mark

02-11-2005 17:10:43

[quote39aefe8be9="KeithA"][quote39aefe8be9="J4320"][quote39aefe8be9="ditto_mark"][b39aefe8be9]wow nice picture[/b39aefe8be9]
my "wow nice picture roll" comment was for the supersized "dont steal our picutres" that dude extreme STILL hasnt fixed i cant even see your picture[/quote39aefe8be9]
Oh, I thought you were talking about mine because you posted that right under my post.[/quote39aefe8be9]

Will you two just get a room? Jeez...[/quote39aefe8be9]

uh...you are a real ladies man arent you

KeithA

02-11-2005 17:13:37

[quote517876106a="ditto_mark"]
uh...you are a real ladies man arent you[/quote517876106a]

Just one lady for the most part

ditto_mark

02-11-2005 17:15:20

[quotea73495b571="KeithA"][quotea73495b571="ditto_mark"]
uh...you are a real ladies man arent you[/quotea73495b571]

Just one lady for the most part[/quotea73495b571]

does she scrub behind your ears and pack your lunch?

compuguru

02-11-2005 17:16:00

This thread is http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/bc69e1025f80b1702bb646896e0464f5.gif[" alt=""/img307d7833a7]

Back on Topic....
I don't think you should give him any money. If he wants to return it though, I would take it a resell it. Just my two cents. D

J4320

02-11-2005 17:39:56

Yes of course... Back on topic. The topic is.........

"Are you a ladies man?"

KeithA

02-11-2005 17:41:07

[quotecd36e0d7b2="J4320"]Yes of course... Back on topic. The topic is.........

"Are you a ladies man?"[/quotecd36e0d7b2]


lol lol