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Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=23744

mr_black

08-10-2005 17:29:16

at 1st i thought it was just me but then i saw this[=http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=222320#222320]this and realized i ( along w/ a few others ) am getting screwed im glad ive only put about 40.00 into this site.

Gatita

08-10-2005 17:31:34

I've made several long posts on A4F that might help put this into more perspective.

mr_black

08-10-2005 17:32:21

[quote7e1577b4f4="Gatita"]I've made several long posts on A4F that might help put this into more perspective.[/quote7e1577b4f4]
links please...

goofygarber

08-10-2005 17:32:27

Yeah, I'm confused... I feel like I'm missing something. Link to A4F topics?

Gatita

08-10-2005 17:33:19

Sorry, I didn't know if offsite linking was okay.

http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=29328

I understand it's a big pain but I really hope some users can look at the whole picture.

goofygarber

08-10-2005 17:39:08

I found it, looked around and I see your point but if the end user follows [bbd5ced765d]what the site owner puts in the offer descriptions[/bbd5ced765d] they should be REQUIRED to pay out, because the end user completed his end of the bargin.

Case closed, kerms was wrong to take away the credit because he didn't make it specific enough what you had to do to get credit. If he wanted users to stay on for months, then he should have said that.

Gatita

08-10-2005 17:43:35

I understand what you are saying, definitely. I have a 63+ trade record over there, I'm one of you guys.

I guess when you deal with this stuff everyday, you are just open to both sides of things. It's just really risky, and we deal with a lot of stresses from publishers demanding we bring good leads, and users demanding we give them what we rightfully deserve.

Like I said, things will be changing. Advertisers will start to pay less, or terms will get more strict... either way, awhile from now, we will look back at this period in time as a very good thing, so enjoy it while it lasts, I guess.

Just another bump in the road.

Peinecone

08-10-2005 17:44:16

I recently went green on orderit4free doing two level 2 offers. Today, i found that it said i still needed to complete an offer. I contacted kerms on IM and he fixed promptly my account. So great for me. But why was my credit revoked in the first place? Did he just revoke mass credit from everybody, not just those who completed the offers in question that he didn't get paid for?

goofygarber

08-10-2005 17:46:13

The advertisers paying less is kinda lame, you should lock in real companies, not physic services and crap shopping promos.

goofygarber

08-10-2005 17:47:10

That being said, Gatita, you've been great to me. My green on itemsforyou was prompt, and I'm looking forward to finishing the site

Gatita

08-10-2005 17:50:20

[quote545375d434="goofygarber"]The advertisers paying less is kinda lame, you should lock in real companies, not physic services and crap shopping promos.[/quote545375d434]

Exactly! We are in a stagnant period right now. Advertisers realize there is potential in this, because you see repeat companies coming back for more, like 1800 Patches and Urban Nutrition. They are doing it for a reason.

But there are still so many people and companies who aren't familiar with this business model.
So basically, we need to a) bring in fresh people and b) bring in new, awesome advertisers for said people.

I've got a lot of ideas for this that I am working on, because I think we still have a lot of time to turn the problem around. I'd rather try to improve it while I can, instead of riding it out and whining when it all collapses.

[quote545375d434]this is my point exactly i have proof that i have yet to cancel this offer.[/quote545375d434]

That's kind of why I made all the long posts I did ? I was really hoping to help some of you understand WHY that doesn't matter. It is really about the big picture with this. A couple of good leads like yours aren't enough right now.

mr_black

08-10-2005 17:50:43

[quotef79362ed32="Peinecone"]I recently went green on orderit4free doing two level 2 offers. Today, i found that it said i still needed to complete an offer. I contacted kerms on IM and he fixed promptly my account. So great for me. But why was my credit revoked in the first place? Did he just revoke mass credit from everybody, not just those who completed the offers in question that he didn't get paid for?[/quotef79362ed32]

this is my point exactly i have proof that i have yet to cancel this offer.

stockmanjr

08-10-2005 18:06:32

I tend to try the products I order.But I would say 90 percent of the products ive done are either priced too high or I didnt like them...Is that fraud that I sent them back after a few days?One product I wont mention which one But when I looked at the contents it had something I was really allergic too would that be considered fraud?Sorry if my response is sounds off the cuff but while I understand the publishers POV there is also the pov of the user.

Skunk

08-10-2005 18:52:12

Your avatar owns by the way )

mr_black

08-10-2005 19:26:54

a reliable source informed me that his incentaclick and offerweb accounts have been suspended....

goofygarber

08-10-2005 19:39:01

That would explain alot

JUNIOR6886

08-10-2005 19:50:48

i feel sorry for the people who got scammed by orderit4free...... but
By doing NON OC/FreePay/Casino freebie sites you knew you were taking a huge risk..... ?

unknown uchiha

08-10-2005 19:51:18

Yeah but he took away my UrbanNutrition stuff too which I haven't even cancelled. (

EatChex89

08-10-2005 19:51:59

i just thought of a good screenname..

unknown uchiha

08-10-2005 20:08:39

Junior, let's not forget TRAINN on the list ;)

damac

08-10-2005 20:21:08

well i logged into my account and it has a little red thing saying my offer credit was pulled due to offer fraud.

well lets just say that considering all the possible reasons this could be so, none of them apply to me, PERIOD!

so sounds like whoever they use as a publisher isnt happy and want to deny all payments and will probably just cancel their account.

compuguru

08-10-2005 20:25:12

Just FYI Guys, the admin has posted a reason http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=222457#222457

kerms

08-10-2005 20:35:17

[quotedc7e48529e="Peinecone"]I recently went green on orderit4free doing two level 2 offers. Today, i found that it said i still needed to complete an offer. I contacted kerms on IM and he fixed promptly my account. So great for me. But why was my credit revoked in the first place? Did he just revoke mass credit from everybody, not just those who completed the offers in question that he didn't get paid for?[/quotedc7e48529e]

yours was a mistake, might have been a hold in my script, but you should be fine now, it had nothing to do with any of this

kerms

08-10-2005 20:42:31

[quotee30b33c1f9="goofygarber"]I found it, looked around and I see your point but if the end user follows [be30b33c1f9]what the site owner puts in the offer descriptions[/be30b33c1f9] they should be REQUIRED to pay out, because the end user completed his end of the bargin.

Case closed, kerms was wrong to take away the credit because he didn't make it specific enough what you had to do to get credit. If he wanted users to stay on for months, then he should have said that.[/quotee30b33c1f9]

oh okay, so if the law says you cant kill someone with a chainsaw while driving a car and blinking forty times a minute, you dont go to jail. i see. my site and all sites dont guarantee credit for offers, read my response

mr_black

09-10-2005 01:24:19

i guess its possible to give the benefit of th doubt but if i cannot get my green back that ridiculous...im wondering why all offers associated with my account went red i didnt even do juenese or whatever its called it was disabled when i started.