Dear Seller (sold for $203.50 :( )

Dear seller,

thanks for contacting me on my winning bid. I am willing to make this transaction as quick as possible. I'm in madrid now for a crusade and restricted to recieving any item here, and so i cannot post it to my son whom i'm buying it for, so i want you to help me calculate shippping and handling through post to my son's address in West Africa so i'll forward fund to you that will carry all neccessary expences. I'm paying you with through money order . I am new with ebay so i wil be most grateful if you guided me on what to do. Pleaes mail me soonest. Thanks in anticipation,


my nephews address
Name Tony Mabi
Address No. 39, bablola estate, odo-ona elewe road, orita challenge
city Ibadan
state Oyo state
zipcode 23402

....Rev. xavi!

--- eBay <endofitem@ebay.co.uk> wrote

From eBay <endofitem@ebay.co.uk>
Date Wed, 7 Sep 2005 091938 -0700
To email==xavi@searchmachine.comxavi@searchmachine.com=xavi@searchmachine.comxavi@searchmachine.com/email
Subject You Won eBay Item Brand New Sony PSP Value Pack New In Box (8215953071)


lol....what a scammer. hes not even a registered user anymore.

Also, my PSP is up for a 3rd time...and its only at $61.00 with about 10 hours left, PM or AIM for a link.

Why not just post a link? Maybe then we can tell you what you are doing wrong.


Tip - Try to restrict your shipping to US residents only.

http//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=8217944337

I thought I did, but maybe not. I haven't sold anything on eGay in a while

Besides not having and terms and conditions, I'd say your auction is fine. You've just gotten two bad buyers - that tends to happen with trendy electronics.

[quote56b5e14a7f="wood"]Why not just post a link? Maybe then we can tell you what you are doing wrong.


Tip - Try to restrict your shipping to US residents only.[/quote56b5e14a7f]

Bad tip. I make a lot more money (over retail in many cases) by shipping internationally. You just gotta do it right and there are no problems.

[quote839ce55163="kevxross"][quote839ce55163="wood"]Why not just post a link? Maybe then we can tell you what you are doing wrong.


Tip - Try to restrict your shipping to US residents only.[/quote839ce55163]

Bad tip. I make a lot more money (over retail in many cases) by shipping internationally. You just gotta do it right and there are no problems.[/quote839ce55163]


Watch it though...super cool Bose Ltd. UK got me suspended from eBay for "violating parallel import laws." Yea, figure that one out.

[quotefaf120f25c="kevxross"][quotefaf120f25c="wood"]Why not just post a link? Maybe then we can tell you what you are doing wrong.


Tip - Try to restrict your shipping to US residents only.[/quotefaf120f25c]

Bad tip. I make a lot more money (over retail in many cases) by shipping internationally. You just gotta do it right and there are no problems.[/quotefaf120f25c]

Bad tip? Give me a break.
Have you ever tried to ship a hot new electronic item internationally when you have a low feedback score?

9 times out of 10 you get someone either trying to scam you or doesn't know what the hell they are doing (in regards to sending payment).
He's already stated that this is the THIRD time he has listed the auction.
At this point, I think it's safe to say he is ready to get rid of the damn thing.

Sorry, but the extra couple bucks really isn't worth the hassle.
Unless you aren't in a rush to get rid of the item and dont mind relisting it a few times. Or if getting negative feedback isn't really a major concern.

Why don't you link us to your ebay name? Something tells me I'm not going to be impressed. roll

[quote2c6b3fc724="Sonofshoe"]Dear seller,

thanks for contacting me on my winning bid. I am willing to make this transaction as quick as possible. I'm in madrid now for a crusade and restricted to recieving any item here, and so i cannot post it to my son whom i'm buying it for, so i want you to help me calculate shippping and handling through post to my son's address in West Africa so i'll forward fund to you that will carry all neccessary expences. I'm paying you with through money order . I am new with ebay so i wil be most grateful if you guided me on what to do. Pleaes mail me soonest. Thanks in anticipation,


my nephews address
Name Tony Mabi
Address No. 39, bablola estate, odo-ona elewe road, orita challenge
city Ibadan
state Oyo state
zipcode 23402

....Rev. xavi!

--- eBay <endofitem@ebay.co.uk> wrote

From eBay <endofitem@ebay.co.uk>
Date Wed, 7 Sep 2005 091938 -0700
To email==xavi@searchmachine.comxavi@searchmachine.com=xavi@searchmachine.comxavi@searchmachine.com/email
Subject You Won eBay Item Brand New Sony PSP Value Pack New In Box (8215953071)


lol....what a scammer. hes not even a registered user anymore.

Also, my PSP is up for a 3rd time...and its only at $61.00 with about 10 hours left, PM or AIM for a link.[/quote2c6b3fc724]

two weeks ago I sold my Pocket PC to unregistered ebayer... And he asked me to sent device to his son too =) /
I think you have more power when he sends you a money order or certified check.
think you should be fine.

What losers

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brandy rays to me
More options Sep 10 (5 days ago)

Thanks for the mail
i am located in london i want to buy the item for my son in another country i will like to come but it will cost me a lot of money so i will send you a money order and i will ship with my fedex accout so send me your name and address so that iwill go and make the payment i will like to buy the two
- Show quoted text -


Nenne to jnnyrays
More options Sep 10 (5 days ago)

Sorry, that's a scam. I'm not interested. And I find it odd that you'd
want buy some pumps for your son.
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I was selling some gold pumps on craigslist. Who the hell sends heels to their son? And I don't understand why they were just trying to scam me out of $35 I thought they only try to pull that stuff with high priced items.

You should add to your description that you will only ship to confirmed addresses. And don't worry, it won't stay below $100.

[quotec4556240a7="hehehhehe"]You should add to your description that you will only ship to confirmed addresses. And don't worry, it won't stay below $100.[/quotec4556240a7]

true most poeple are at work or school now around 5 pm you will start seeing it go up alot.

EDIT You also have to think that your item is now on the front page of the search yet there are tons of psps you will get to the front page and get more hits.(front page of the search)

I had a problem when someone in Puerto Rico was trying to buy my iPod on eBay... Fortunatley a dirty canadian bought it.

As long as I get my cash in my bank account I will be happy.

I don't understand these scams. If they are sending a money order, you are getting the money. Just wait till it clears. It does seem very shady, but i don't see the loophole in this scam.

[quote1648fa2ade="wood"][quote1648fa2ade="kevxross"][quote1648fa2ade="wood"]Why not just post a link? Maybe then we can tell you what you are doing wrong.


Tip - Try to restrict your shipping to US residents only.[/quote1648fa2ade]

Bad tip. I make a lot more money (over retail in many cases) by shipping internationally. You just gotta do it right and there are no problems.[/quote1648fa2ade]

Bad tip? Give me a break.
Have you ever tried to ship a hot new electronic item internationally when you have a low feedback score?

9 times out of 10 you get someone either trying to scam you or doesn't know what the hell they are doing (in regards to sending payment).
He's already stated that this is the THIRD time he has listed the auction.
At this point, I think it's safe to say he is ready to get rid of the damn thing.

Sorry, but the extra couple bucks really isn't worth the hassle.
Unless you aren't in a rush to get rid of the item and dont mind relisting it a few times. Or if getting negative feedback isn't really a major concern.

Why don't you link us to your ebay name? Something tells me I'm not going to be impressed. roll[/quote1648fa2ade]

You get way too defensive and hostile, way too easily.

Here's a true situation I've had on ebay, which explains my opinion on international shipping perfectly

I had 2 brand new Sharp Zaurus SL-6000L (this was back in Dec04). I listed them both with a starting bid of $399, Buy it now at $449 offering shipping only to the US. One of the PDAs sold at $399. So I relisted the unsold PDA with the same starting price, but a buy it now price of $470 and I offered international shipping. The next day someone from the UK who was on vacation in Canada bought it for $470. I shipped it to the hostel he was staying in and had no problems. This is when I started always offering intl shipping and [b1648fa2ade]especially[/b1648fa2ade] on hot new electronics. $70 is more than "a couple bucks" and really is worth the "hassle" of writing "Canada" on the package and filling out a simple customs form.

I always list s&h costs for US, then tell intl bidders to email me for costs to their area. My auctions typically end for more than those shipping only to the US and I never have any hassle.

That's just me though...

Oh and you asked for my ebay name. It's OddityExchange. I'm not a powerseller and I don't expect (nor care) for you to be impressed - I just sell a few things a month that I come across. I have 100% feedback. Here's one of my previous auctions[=http//cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=97930&item=5779647024]Here's one of my previous auctions that ebay hasn't whiped yet that shows how I handle intl bidders. Guess where I got the ipod shuffle ;)

[quote23867771b4="kevxross"]You get way too defensive and hostile, way too easily.[/quote23867771b4]
It's not getting defensive, it's getting annoyed.
I'm sure you think writting "bad tip" followed by a single sentence is good advice, but if you want to actually help out the OP, maybe you should explain yourself further.
What's more, you didn't really consider his situation. Someone who is not extremely familiar with ebay might just take what you are saying as fact and follow blindly. You should apply it to his current situation if you want to make it worthwhile...

Let me break it down for you.

Shoe is new on ebay. With only 6 feedbacks, its obvious he is still learning the ins-and-outs. Because of this, he might not understand the full implications of shipping worldwide.
"What implications?"

For starters, much like FON mentioned earlier, customs might not approve of what you are shipping and simply not deliver the item. I had this happen on two different shipments to Italy (horrible, HORRIBLE customs).

Secondly, tracking is not available for all destinations. And when it is available it can cost anywhere from $15 to $50. On top of that, it doesn't always work the way you would have hoped.
For example, I purchased tracking on a shipment to Spain, but for whatever reason, it didn't "work". The post office had no idea where the package went, and I had just about given up hope and assumed it was either floating in the Atlantic or that it was delivered and the buyer was lying to me in hopes that I would refund his money (either voluntarily or forcibly through paypal's craptastic "no tracking, no protection" policy).

Regarding your wonderful experiences with international shipping, you have to take into account that you have 98 feedbacks at 100%. Not exactly an "easy target" in most scammers eyes.
Shoe on the other hand has just 6 feedbacks, probably generating a lot more interest from the people who think they can get away with sending fake money orders and what not.

I'm not disagreeing that Int'l shipping doesn't have its benefits, I'm just pointing out that there is a time and a place to offer the option.
With 6 feedback and already two failed auction attempts for the item, I think it's safe to say Shoe should probably keep it nice and simple for this auction.

But that's just me...

[quote108cc3f51c="Peinecone"]I don't understand these scams. If they are sending a money order, you are getting the money. Just wait till it clears. It does seem very shady, but i don't see the loophole in this scam.[/quote108cc3f51c]

Basically, they tell you they are interested and will be sending you a USPS money order.
Usually the next day you will get an email that claims it is from the USPS and that they have your money order and will ship it to you as soon as they have confirmation you have shipped out your package.

It's beyond me how anyone ever falls for these scams. The "official" emails are always from a free email service such as hotmail or something equally ridiculous.
What's even more obvious is the grammer and spelling on these spoofed email addresses. Usually its around the level of a 6th grader.

I recently listed a few dell laser printers on craigslist, and the scam emails started rolling in.
I actually took someone's advice (i think it was chex) and played along with them.
Sure enough they sent me the fake usps money order email followed by a pre-paid fedex label which I was to put on the package and arrange a pickup from my residence.

I was planning on sending him a 90 lb box of rocks (i doubt 90lbs to africa is cheap), but unfortunatly I had to sign off on the contents of the box, and since the slip was already pre-filled with "dell printer" i didnt want to violate customs and lie.

Oh well.

[quote2681abe707="wood"][quote2681abe707="Peinecone"]I don't understand these scams. If they are sending a money order, you are getting the money. Just wait till it clears. It does seem very shady, but i don't see the loophole in this scam.[/quote2681abe707]

Basically, they tell you they are interested and will be sending you a USPS money order.
Usually the next day you will get an email that claims it is from the USPS and that they have your money order and will ship it to you as soon as they have confirmation you have shipped out your package.

It's beyond me how anyone ever falls for these scams. The "official" emails are always from a free email service such as hotmail or something equally unofficial.
What's even more obvious is the grammer and spelling on these spoofed email addresses. Usually its around the level of a 6th grader.

I recently listed a few dell laser printers on craigslist, and the scam emails started rolling in.
I actually took someone's advice (i think it was chex) and played along with them.
Sure enough they sent me the fake usps money order email followed by a pre-paid fedex label which I was to put on the package and arrange a pickup from my residence.

I was planning on sending him a 90 lb box of rocks (i doubt 90lbs to africa is cheap), but unfortunatly I had to sign off on the contents of the box, and since the slip was already pre-filled with "dell printer" i didnt want to violate customs and lie.

Oh well.[/quote2681abe707]

do something like the p-p-p-p-powerbook and get a broken printer and put a dell label on it.

[quotec863a01dac="JOSHBOX"]do something like the p-p-p-p-powerbook and get a broken printer and put a dell label on it.[/quotec863a01dac]

lol good idea

[quoteb249a64538="wood"][quoteb249a64538="JOSHBOX"]do something like the p-p-p-p-powerbook and get a broken printer and put a dell label on it.[/quoteb249a64538]

lol good idea[/quoteb249a64538]

did you ever see the p-p-p-p-powerbook thingy?

found a link!

http//www.p-p-p-powerbook.com/

I get lots of letters from people who are trying to scam when i list stuff on ebay as well. I got a letter from some douche saying that he will payme via bidpay when i ship the item to him lol Its so easy to detect ebay scams its almost hard to feel sorry for the people who fall for them.

The scam is 99% most likely a fake money order. Since its from overseas they have different authentication's. The bank WILL cash the money order, but will also soon notify you that you need to pay them back.

Saw a whole tv program about it a few months ago......the way they said it was happening on the show was that these africans were finding lonely women from the US, and having them cash the check and sending them like 75% ofthe money. The women think its fine since the bank cashes it....and they are happy since they get to keep some money. ....Untill the banks law firm contacts them.

[quotebc3ab6197c="wood"][quotebc3ab6197c="Peinecone"]I don't understand these scams. If they are sending a money order, you are getting the money. Just wait till it clears. It does seem very shady, but i don't see the loophole in this scam.[/quotebc3ab6197c]

Basically, they tell you they are interested and will be sending you a USPS money order.
Usually the next day you will get an email that claims it is from the USPS and that they have your money order and will ship it to you as soon as they have confirmation you have shipped out your package.

It's beyond me how anyone ever falls for these scams. The "official" emails are always from a free email service such as hotmail or something equally ridiculous.
What's even more obvious is the grammer and spelling on these spoofed email addresses. Usually its around the level of a 6th grader.
[/quotebc3ab6197c]

Some who aren't so internet savy may not be able to tell the email is fake.

Also they try to get you by mailing you a fake money order that clears at your bank at first and then later after you've sent the item your bank tells you it was fake. What I don't understand is how your bank can let it clear in the first place and then later they find out it's not good.

Edit What lunarpancake said

And yes, the bad grammar is a dead giveaway.

[quotede3faa94a5="JOSHBOX"]found a link!

http//www.p-p-p-powerbook.com/[/quotede3faa94a5]

Thats the funniest thing ive seen in a while lol lol lol lol
the best part is the pics of the fake powerbook...

i wish i could see the videos -(

[quote944fd89559="Sonofshoe"]Dear seller,

thanks for contacting me on my winning bid. I am willing to make this transaction as quick as possible. I'm in madrid now for a crusade and restricted to recieving any item here, and so i cannot post it to my son whom i'm buying it for, so i want you to help me calculate shippping and handling through post to my son's address in West Africa so i'll forward fund to you that will carry all neccessary expences. I'm paying you with through money order . I am new with ebay so i wil be most grateful if you guided me on what to do. Pleaes mail me soonest. Thanks in anticipation,


my nephews address
Name Tony Mabi
Address No. 39, bablola estate, odo-ona elewe road, orita challenge
city Ibadan
state Oyo state
zipcode 23402

....Rev. xavi!

--- eBay <endofitem@ebay.co.uk> wrote

From eBay <endofitem@ebay.co.uk>
Date Wed, 7 Sep 2005 091938 -0700
To email==xavi@searchmachine.comxavi@searchmachine.com=xavi@searchmachine.comxavi@searchmachine.com/email
Subject You Won eBay Item Brand New Sony PSP Value Pack New In Box (8215953071)


lol....what a scammer. hes not even a registered user anymore.

Also, my PSP is up for a 3rd time...and its only at $61.00 with about 10 hours left, PM or AIM for a link.[/quote944fd89559]


I have had like 3 people like that try and scam me!!! I even got a fake $900 money order that I cashed and then I got a phone call 2 months later saying it was fake and I had to pay it back. I just got an email like this

[quote944fd89559]Dear seller,
am the winner of your item Motorola V551- UNLOCKED - Camera and Video Phone (5808308064) and i want you to ship it to my son in nigeria and i want you to give me the shipping cost and calculate the shipping and item cost and i will pay you by BidPay via western union .Sendurl==http://=http:///url your full name and your address to me for your payment.Hope to hear from you soon.
Regards[/quote944fd89559]

So, I gave her negative feedback, reported her to ebay and did a second chance offer which the guy took. I ended up selling my phone but shit! These people piss me off!!

Up to $122.50 roll

Wait he is in Madrid for a CRUSADE? Did thoose silly catholics declare another one? If so I tottally forgot about it.

[quote3b80edeac3="Allen626"]Wait he is in Madrid for a CRUSADE? Did thoose silly catholics declare another one? If so I tottally forgot about it.[/quote3b80edeac3]


?

[quotef59994423a="Allen626"]Wait he is in Madrid for a CRUSADE? Did thoose silly catholics declare another one? If so I tottally forgot about it.[/quotef59994423a]

Are you inept or just plain stupid?

Don't even bother answering that. You're lack of wit is only exceeded by your inability to formulate complete thoughts.

[quote66f77e0004]
thanks for contacting me on my winning bid. I am willing to make this transaction as quick as possible. I'm in madrid now for a crusade and restricted to recieving any item here, and so i cannot post it to my son whom i'm buying it for, so i want you to help me calculate shippping and handling through post to my son's address in West Africa so i'll forward fund to you that will carry all neccessary expences. I'm paying you with through money order . I am new with ebay so i wil be most grateful if you guided me on what to do. Pleaes mail me soonest. Thanks in anticipation, [/quote66f77e0004]

Crusade = holly war? Like the childrens crusade 14th centerury, you know. Killing a whole bunch of people that arent catholic? Like the muslims? w/e

[quote936582a68f="wood"][quote936582a68f="Allen626"]Wait he is in Madrid for a CRUSADE? Did thoose silly catholics declare another one? If so I tottally forgot about it.[/quote936582a68f]

Are you inept or just plain stupid?

Don't even bother answering that. You're lack of wit is only exceeded by your inability to formulate complete thoughts.[/quote936582a68f]

The first email that was posted was obviously a gag not a scam, a Reverand signing a email talking about going to Madrid for a crusade. I was being sarcastic about the email.

$162.50 1 hour left!

lol just got another email from some fag.

Am interested in Purcashing your item,if you will be able to complete this Transaction Kindly email me your Name and contact address include with Phone and also getback to me with Final asking price which you wanna sell the item so that i can make the Funds right away,kindly mail me to send you my Fedex shipping label for the shipment as soon as you recieve MONEY ORDER BIDPAY.getback ,am waiting for your reply Regards

roll

[quote40ef241071="Sonofshoe"]lol just got another email from some fag.

Am interested in Purcashing your item,if you will be able to complete this Transaction Kindly email me your Name and contact address include with Phone and also getback to me with Final asking price which you wanna sell the item so that i can make the Funds right away,kindly mail me to send you my Fedex shipping label for the shipment as soon as you recieve MONEY ORDER BIDPAY.getback ,am waiting for your reply Regards

roll[/quote40ef241071]

those fuckers are everywhere!!

The guy/girl who ended up winning it for a mere $203.50 doesn't have a confirmed address....

o m g

Do I smell a 4th time?

you could just as easily ask them to confirm their address if the amount you got for the auction is enough money for you.