what happened to sweedfish??

he was my favorite mod, dont no what happened to him... he was the only one that helped me out when i needed it also... i think he should be back.. very legit trader.. good guy

i think YOU were the reason he left!

wow i just realized that....... I left for vacation at the end of June, and got back onto the forums the first weekend of august...... where'd that fish go? FINDING SWeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeedfish.

For all those who missed the drama

Sweeedfish was demodded. When told he could be re-modded, he declined.
Doesn't want anything to do with the board now.

thnx for the update + karma to you for explaining (i'm sure) a month's worth of stuff in like a few sentences.

a spot for me to just swoop into... i want to be modded!

[quote5dc7e9fdca="wood"]For all those who missed the drama

Sweeedfish was demodded. When told he could be re-modded, he declined.
Doesn't want anything to do with the board now.[/quote5dc7e9fdca]

ok i guesss im gana have to take over where he left off

When did he leave? He posted three days ago.

[quote310911a6c1="drummer_kew_03"]When did he leave? He posted three days ago.[/quote310911a6c1]

he left two days ago.

havent seen him since.

i'm sure he has some pseudo name that he checks here regularly.

for him to go from sitting on this forum EIGHTEEN hours a day, every day - to - nothing
isnt very likely.

so why was he demodded?

[quotef0868fd4a7="wood"][quotef0868fd4a7="drummer_kew_03"]When did he leave? He posted three days ago.[/quotef0868fd4a7]

he left two days ago.

havent seen him since.

i'm sure he has some pseudo name that he checks here regularly.

for him to go from sitting on this forum EIGHTEEN hours a day, every day - to - nothing
isnt very likely.[/quotef0868fd4a7]
lol +karma

SonOfShoe - nice signature, too bad sweeed doesnt want too come back or else it might have a purpose

yo wood, why was sweed demodded?

disagreements.

[quote883e688dbd="emailjwr"]yo wood, why was sweed demodded?[/quote883e688dbd]

i'd rather not like to get in to all the details.

Basically, he was warned on multiple occassions not to cross certain lines. Over a 48 hour time period he disregarded those lines and the subsequent warnings like half a dozen times.

Hope this clears some things up with you guys.

it was a huge mess.

it was all woods fault!

jk, sweed was a great mod but him and wood had their disagreements and it got out of hand.

I kicked Stroid in the junk and then ran away. When he turned around Sweeed was standing there. The rest is history.

This topic should have been locked. No need for anymore Drama

[quote6d9d90af75="JUNIOR6886"]This topic should have been locked. No need for anymore Drama[/quote6d9d90af75]

Thanks boss.

lock shmock lol i don't fully understand what 'lines' a mod can cross really, except for abusing members or something

no it shouldnt be locked. We cant keep locking stuff and pretending it didnt happen. If the users disagree with something, let them discuss it and stop covering it up.

yeah exactly.....not everybody knows that happened,a nd they were only asking about what happened.

they didnt ask for details and even if they did, they wouldnt get them.

locking it would do no good unless it maybe go out of hand.

What we should really discuss is what chump keeps attacking my karma. I've gone down 20 in the past two weeks. In the words of hairyferry; You're a boner.

[quote050374ce07="JOSHBOX"]no it shouldnt be locked. We cant keep locking stuff and pretending it didnt happen. If the users disagree with something, let them discuss it and stop covering it up.[/quote050374ce07]

Sweed was offered his job back and he declined and stroid admits he might have been somewhat rash in his decision. So whats done is done. Its OVER. ?

yes its over, but not everbody knew that he had been de-modded, hence the question "what happened to sweeedfish?"

theres no need to lock something that isnt breaking any rules.

Why was Sweed demodded in the first place?

exactly, leave it up so people can know and discuss if they want. This isnt causing any drama.

[quote0e9eb37578="stoogepid"]Why was Sweed demodded in the first place?[/quote0e9eb37578]

roll

[quotedbacd9cb47="stoogepid"]Why was Sweed demodded in the first place?[/quotedbacd9cb47]

disagreements.

wood already said what happened and that he wont go any further.

for the people who knew/knows, they wont go any further either. so theres no point in people asking about it.

[quote1be864df16="emailjwr"]lock shmock lol i don't fully understand what 'lines' a mod can cross really[/quote1be864df16]

That's okay.

[quote9fc018bfd7="stoogepid"]Why was Sweed demodded in the first place?[/quote9fc018bfd7]

They have a strict no douchebag policy as far as mods go, spoogefish was in serious violation of this policy.

[quote146b24176d="alexvega"][quote146b24176d="stoogepid"]Why was Sweed demodded in the first place?[/quote146b24176d]

They have a strict no douchebag policy as far as mods go, spoogefish was in serious violation of this policy.[/quote146b24176d]

Alright sorry I asked. ?

from what i've heard (this is not coming from my mouth, just passing on what i heard), wood started ragging on sweed in the first place, including the use of an avatar that belittled him.

Well since no one will actually answer the question - here's the story, from my memory, since Mods have deleted or hidden any of the threads which discuss the situation.

In no particular order, here's the series of events which led to Sweed being demodded.

Sweedfish deleted a post Wood had made - which according to Stroid and Wood is a violation of the general ethics mods have not to delete each other's posts.

Wood put a picture of some random person in his sig claiming it was Sweed.

Sweed got pissed and asked Stroid to ask Wood to take it down, Stroid told Sweed to ask Wood himself, and according to Wood, Sweed never asked and never took it down.

Sweed defaced a picture of Wood and his [girlfriend/girl/lady/random] and put it in his sig.

Lots of bitching and moaning ensues, mostly Stroid and Wood against Sweed. Wood claims Sweed used to read FIPG members' PMs. Sweed claims it was part of his anti-scamming role. Sweed claims Wood uses his power as mod to influence new members to agree to trades and then never completes his end of the deal. Wood disagrees. There is evidence on both sides of the issue.

Stroid later contacts Admin and asks for Sweed to be demodded. Admin agrees and demods Sweed. Sweed gets pissed. Wood or Stroid later state that at least one other mod (FON) agreed that Sweed should be demodded - [FON has never weighed in publicly on the issue].

Admin later demods Wood for a short time while he sorted out who was to blame. He later reinstated Woods']' mod status and asked Sweed if he wanted back on as a mod; Sweed declined.

Wood now locks all threads associated with Sweedfish after deleting posts that go against his side of the story and after making a snide last post in the thread.

...and I thought Peter Jennings had died.

After you were stripped of your dignity, would you want someone to throw it back on you?

Oh, and BBal, I got some names of the ppl that are giveing you - kma, shall we start the bidding at $50 for the name(s)?

[quotef1d610c79d="Sonofshoe"]After you were stripped of your dignity, would you want someone to throw it back on you?

Oh, and BBal, I got some names of the ppl that are giveing you - kma, shall we start the bidding at $50 for the name(s)?[/quotef1d610c79d]

I bet I could guess by naming the people I've made a smartass comment to, but I don't want to waste bandwith.

That's a pretty good recap. There was also some bickering between Sweed and Wood before the whole "deleting another mod's post" incidents.

so bad that sweed left. guy with 160+TR never sammed or lied, always helped noobs. WANT HIM BACK! #1 MOD!

I agree, sweed does go through PMs, heck he told me about my PM before i even knew about it.

[quote9aceffa658="CoMpFrEaK"]I agree, sweed does go through PMs, heck he told me about my PM before i even knew about it.[/quote9aceffa658]

i think so too. Mods can check pms...

[quotee7d8b84241]
Sweedfish deleted a post Wood had made - which according to Stroid and Wood is a violation of the general ethics mods have not to delete each other's posts.[/quotee7d8b84241] Actually pretty much all the mods agreed that this is something we should respect and not do to each other.
[quotee7d8b84241]
Wood put a picture of some random person in his sig claiming it was Sweed.[/quotee7d8b84241] Wood never said it was sweeed he said the sweed fish are real it was a girl eating sweedfish.
[quotee7d8b84241]
Sweed got pissed and asked Stroid to ask Wood to take it down, Stroid told Sweed to ask Wood himself, and according to Wood, Sweed never asked and never took it down.[/quotee7d8b84241] Not quite i asked Wood to take it down he said tell sweeed to ask me. I asked sweeed to tell him but he was ignoring wood. So sweeed made a pic in response using wood and his girlfriend and making fun of them i personally think thats a bit degrading as opposed to a picture of a girl eating sweedfish.
[quotee7d8b84241]
Lots of bitching and moaning ensues, mostly Stroid and Wood against Sweed. Wood claims Sweed used to read FIPG members' PMs. Sweed claims it was part of his anti-scamming role. Sweed claims Wood uses his power as mod to influence new members to agree to trades and then never completes his end of the deal. Wood disagrees. There is evidence on both sides of the issue.[/quotee7d8b84241] Its not a claim sweeed was very nosy and read PMs of people we have a rule not to read PMs just to be nosy. And thats not true about Wood what happened in the past was taken care of.
[quotee7d8b84241]
Stroid later contacts Admin and asks for Sweed to be demodded. Admin agrees and demods Sweed. Sweed gets pissed. Wood or Stroid later state that at least one other mod (FON) agreed that Sweed should be demodded - [FON has never weighed in publicly on the issue].[/quotee7d8b84241]
Yeah thats pretty accurate. But there are several reasons involved in the demoding. Sweeed was warned about things not to do and he continued.

[quotee7d8b84241]Wood now locks all threads associated with Sweedfish after deleting posts that go against his side of the story and after making a snide last post in the thread.[/quotee7d8b84241] Umm no wood locked that one thread which if i was online i would have done the same thing. It is not up to the public to make a poll about a mod decision. Yesterday Compfreak made a poll and CG locked the thread immediatly. So that doesnt go against woods side at all.

[quotedf65139f62="Stroid"]
[quotedf65139f62]Wood now locks all threads associated with Sweedfish after deleting posts that go against his side of the story and after making a snide last post in the thread.[/quotedf65139f62] Umm no wood locked that one thread which if i was online i would have done the same thing. It is not up to the public to make a poll about a mod decision. Yesterday Compfreak made a poll and CG locked the thread immediatly. So that doesnt go against woods side at all.[/quotedf65139f62]

I think he was referring to the [idf65139f62]OTHER[/idf65139f62] threads...

[quote886ef10225="bballp6699"][quote886ef10225="Stroid"]
[quote886ef10225]Wood now locks all threads associated with Sweedfish after deleting posts that go against his side of the story and after making a snide last post in the thread.[/quote886ef10225] Umm no wood locked that one thread which if i was online i would have done the same thing. It is not up to the public to make a poll about a mod decision. Yesterday Compfreak made a poll and CG locked the thread immediatly. So that doesnt go against woods side at all.[/quote886ef10225]

I think he was referring to the [i886ef10225]OTHER[/i886ef10225] threads...[/quote886ef10225]
no i dont think so cause wood locked that thread and made the last post i recently went in after him and posted cause nusqax said something.

[quote682507ac9c="Stroid"][quote682507ac9c="bballp6699"][quote682507ac9c="Stroid"]
[quote682507ac9c]Wood now locks all threads associated with Sweedfish after deleting posts that go against his side of the story and after making a snide last post in the thread.[/quote682507ac9c] Umm no wood locked that one thread which if i was online i would have done the same thing. It is not up to the public to make a poll about a mod decision. Yesterday Compfreak made a poll and CG locked the thread immediatly. So that doesnt go against woods side at all.[/quote682507ac9c]

I think he was referring to the [i682507ac9c]OTHER[/i682507ac9c] threads...[/quote682507ac9c]
no i dont think so cause wood locked that thread and made the last post i recently went in after him and posted cause nusqax said something.[/quote682507ac9c]

I think he means this one

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=19181

and while I'm not weighing in on either side here, the fact that you close a thread that's about you seems kind of suppressive.

[quote0a337c6e6b="kposse77"]
and while I'm not weighing in on either side here, the fact that you close a thread that's about you seems kind of suppressive.[/quote0a337c6e6b]
This thread involves me as well and its not locked. The other thread is a poll about our decision polls like this have never been allowed. So what are u saying again cause i do believe you are wrong.

[quote5d86b8c757="Stroid"][quote5d86b8c757="kposse77"]
and while I'm not weighing in on either side here, the fact that you close a thread that's about you seems kind of suppressive.[/quote5d86b8c757]
This thread involves me as well and its not locked. The other thread is a poll about our decision polls like this have never been allowed. So what are u saying again cause i do believe you are wrong.[/quote5d86b8c757]

sorry for not being clear. by you, I meant wood locked a thread in the announcements forum that was about himself. I didn't mean you personally.

Thinks went wrong, sweeed was demodded. People realized it was wrong to demod him so quick, asked if he would come back he declined. He doesn't want anything to do with the forums anymore. That's a sum of what happened.

He is going to finish a couple more sites, then he'll most likely will be gone for good.

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Sweedfish deleted a post Wood had made - which according to Stroid and Wood is a violation of the general ethics mods have not to delete each other's posts.
Actually pretty much all the mods agreed that this is something we should respect and not do to each other.

So in the end, what I wrote was correct.

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Wood put a picture of some random person in his sig claiming it was Sweed

Wood never said it was sweeed he said the sweed fish are real it was a girl eating sweedfish.

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Sweed got pissed and asked Stroid to ask Wood to take it down, Stroid told Sweed to ask Wood himself, and according to Wood, Sweed never asked and never took it down

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Not quite i asked Wood to take it down he said tell sweeed to ask me. I asked sweeed to tell him but he was ignoring wood. So sweeed made a pic in response using wood and his girlfriend and making fun of them i personally think thats a bit degrading as opposed to a picture of a girl eating sweedfish.

No, wood admitted he told at least one member (either as a joke, or not) that the picture was of Sweed. Of course since the thread in which that comment was located is no longer visible, that point would be heresy.
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Lots of bitching and moaning ensues, mostly Stroid and Wood against Sweed. Wood claims Sweed used to read FIPG members' PMs. Sweed claims it was part of his anti-scamming role. Sweed claims Wood uses his power as mod to influence new members to agree to trades and then never completes his end of the deal. Wood disagrees. There is evidence on both sides of the issue.
Its not a claim sweeed was very nosy and read PMs of people we have a rule not to read PMs just to be nosy. And thats not true about Wood what happened in the past was taken care of.

The fact that "it was taken care of" doesn't absolve Wood of his past actions, especially since he is a moderator. Moreover, Sweed claims that the reading of the PMs was a part of his anti-scamming activities. Unless you have evidence to the contrary, Sweed's assertions would stand up in Court.

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Stroid later contacts Admin and asks for Sweed to be demodded. Admin agrees and demods Sweed. Sweed gets pissed. Wood or Stroid later state that at least one other mod (FON) agreed that Sweed should be demodded - [FON has never weighed in publicly on the issue].

Yeah thats pretty accurate. But there are several reasons involved in the demoding. Sweeed was warned about things not to do and he continued.

Right, but the breaking point, one that that admin admits he would handle differently is when Stroid went to admin and asked for Sweed's mod status to be taken away.
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Wood now locks all threads associated with Sweedfish after deleting posts that go against his side of the story and after making a snide last post in the thread.
Umm no wood locked that one thread which if i was online i would have done the same thing. It is not up to the public to make a poll about a mod decision. Yesterday Compfreak made a poll and CG locked the thread immediatly. So that doesnt go against woods side at all.

Well, it's already been sorted out, but I'm referring to any thread that wood disagrees with, mostly those about Sweed. And in fact, until you posted after wood is nusgax's thread, he had locked it himself. Further, I think the fact that Wood locked the thread talking about his activities as an alleged scammer speaks volumes as to his consideration of his powers.
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[quote156a583ab0="halfbreed"]Thinks went wrong, sweeed was demodded. People realized it was wrong to demod him so quick, asked if he would come back he declined. He doesn't want anything to do with the forums anymore. That's a sum of what happened.

He is going to finish a couple more sites, then he'll most likely will be gone for good.[/quote156a583ab0]

tell you the truth it dont matter if wood killed little cats or something the point is sweed is not coming back B/C he dont want to....

[quoteba871ab6e7="alexvega"][quoteba871ab6e7="stoogepid"]Why was Sweed demodded in the first place?[/quoteba871ab6e7]

They have a strict no douchebag policy as far as mods go, spoogefish was in serious violation of this policy.[/quoteba871ab6e7]
Wow, I never I would ever see you back on these boards alexvega. I banned you back in July. If anyone doesn't know refer to this thread http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=14051&highlight=alexvega .. I always pm the user before I ban them so that they can look at the thread and take care of it. Well I sent two pm's to alexvega, after reading them he responded saying "fuck you, I could give a shit". So I banned his username and ip and dropped his TR to -1. After I banned him another user came to me telling me that alex owed him a green as well and had not responded at all. So that is two users you scammed and I banned you.

I am amazed that a mod would unban you and that you now have a +2 TR. I talked to admin and he said he did not unban you, so that leaves the other mods.

I never like to see anyone get scammed... it's sad you are back, and thanks for the nice reply....

[quotee20cd73866="doylnea"]
Well, it's already been sorted out, but I'm referring to any thread that wood disagrees with, mostly those about Sweed. And in fact, until you posted after wood is nusgax's thread, he had locked it himself. Further, I think the fact that Wood locked the thread talking about his activities as an alleged scammer speaks volumes as to his consideration of his powers.[/quotee20cd73866]

Yeah i think that was wrong b/c I dont think a thread like that should be locked b/c he dont want to hurt someones feelings. that seems like a dumb reason to lock a thread. I know i would never trade with wood let along any mod.(not saying there bad in anyway but i still will not do it)

[quote41a0b35710="sweeedfish"][quote41a0b35710="alexvega"][quote41a0b35710="stoogepid"]Why was Sweed demodded in the first place?[/quote41a0b35710]

They have a strict no douchebag policy as far as mods go, spoogefish was in serious violation of this policy.[/quote41a0b35710]
Wow, I never I would ever see you back on these boards alexvega. I banned you back in July. If anyone doesn't know refer to this thread http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=14051&highlight=alexvega .. I always pm the user before I ban them so that they can look at the thread and take care of it. Well I sent two pm's to alexvega, after reading them he responded saying "fuck you, I could give a shit". So I banned his username and ip and dropped his TR to -1. After I banned him another user came to me telling me that alex owed him a green as well and had not responded at all. So that is two users you scammed and I banned you.

I am amazed that a mod would unban you and that you now have a +2 TR. I talked to admin and he said he did not unban you, so that leaves the other mods.

I never like to see anyone get scammed... it's sad you are back, and thanks for the nice reply....[/quote41a0b35710]

I can't think of a logical reason a mod would unban someone who scammed...fuck that ban his ass again.

[quote578d1e2d07="sweeedfish"][quote578d1e2d07="alexvega"][quote578d1e2d07="stoogepid"]Why was Sweed demodded in the first place?[/quote578d1e2d07]

They have a strict no douchebag policy as far as mods go, spoogefish was in serious violation of this policy.[/quote578d1e2d07]
Wow, I never I would ever see you back on these boards alexvega. I banned you back in July. If anyone doesn't know refer to this thread http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=14051&highlight=alexvega .. I always pm the user before I ban them so that they can look at the thread and take care of it. Well I sent two pm's to alexvega, after reading them he responded saying "fuck you, I could give a shit". So I banned his username and ip and dropped his TR to -1. After I banned him another user came to me telling me that alex owed him a green as well and had not responded at all. So that is two users you scammed and I banned you.

I am amazed that a mod would unban you and that you now have a +2 TR. I talked to admin and he said he did not unban you, so that leaves the other mods.

I never like to see anyone get scammed... it's sad you are back, and thanks for the nice reply....[/quote578d1e2d07]

i will look into who did that its new to me.

and Jug its clear that you dont know all sides of the story so dont try to get so involved.

Also finding scamers it the number one thing i want in a mod. I dont care if i even ever know there a mod, like if they never post. I want scamers found and i want them baned b/c i dont want to get scamed. I have been scamed on referralswapper FIRST TRADE..what a waste of 9.99$ i do his trade went green isntant he still has not even singed up on my link. I dont care if a mod looks threw my pm's they will only find trading talk..lol i dont hide my credit number and pin number in my pm's. whatever has to be done to find a scamer I want.

[quote206d9de0be="Stroid"][quote206d9de0be="sweeedfish"][quote206d9de0be="alexvega"][quote206d9de0be="stoogepid"]Why was Sweed demodded in the first place?[/quote206d9de0be]

They have a strict no douchebag policy as far as mods go, spoogefish was in serious violation of this policy.[/quote206d9de0be]
Wow, I never I would ever see you back on these boards alexvega. I banned you back in July. If anyone doesn't know refer to this thread http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=14051&highlight=alexvega .. I always pm the user before I ban them so that they can look at the thread and take care of it. Well I sent two pm's to alexvega, after reading them he responded saying "fuck you, I could give a shit". So I banned his username and ip and dropped his TR to -1. After I banned him another user came to me telling me that alex owed him a green as well and had not responded at all. So that is two users you scammed and I banned you.

I am amazed that a mod would unban you and that you now have a +2 TR. I talked to admin and he said he did not unban you, so that leaves the other mods.

I never like to see anyone get scammed... it's sad you are back, and thanks for the nice reply....[/quote206d9de0be]

i will look into who did that its new to me.

and Jug its clear that you dont know all sides of the story so dont try to get so involved.[/quote206d9de0be]

what are you talking about... That is all i hear we all dont know all the sides of the story. Can you maybe tell us ALL the sides so we wont be so confused about everything then?

You DON'T hide your credit card and pin number? Wtf dude...I hope your not talking to anyone on here about your cc number or pin number. That'd be sooooooooooooo stoopid

[quote238b7bfc28="halfbreed"]You DON'T hide your credit card and pin number? Wtf dude...I hope your not talking to anyone on here about your cc number or pin number. That'd be sooooooooooooo stoopid[/quote238b7bfc28]

"i dont hide my credit number and pin number in my pm's"
That means i dont put my CC and PIN number in my pms

I am trying to say that in my pm inbox has no info that i need to hide and dont want people looking threw understand now?

Yes, but the way you worded it was wrong.

I don't hide my cc number and pin number <--- meaning if you don't hide it in pms you show it.

[quote9197bba233="halfbreed"]Yes, but the way you worded it was wrong.

I don't hide my cc number and pin number <--- meaning if you don't hide it in pms you show it.[/quote9197bba233]

No it means I dont hide them in that place.

Like I dont hide my money under my bed. Does not mean i give out my money. that is why i said[quote9197bba233]"i dont hide my credit number and pin number in my pm's" [/quote9197bba233]

[quotedcbc582f0f="JuG"][quotedcbc582f0f="Stroid"][quotedcbc582f0f="sweeedfish"][quotedcbc582f0f="alexvega"][quotedcbc582f0f="stoogepid"]Why was Sweed demodded in the first place?[/quotedcbc582f0f]

They have a strict no douchebag policy as far as mods go, spoogefish was in serious violation of this policy.[/quotedcbc582f0f]
Wow, I never I would ever see you back on these boards alexvega. I banned you back in July. If anyone doesn't know refer to this thread http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=14051&highlight=alexvega .. I always pm the user before I ban them so that they can look at the thread and take care of it. Well I sent two pm's to alexvega, after reading them he responded saying "fuck you, I could give a shit". So I banned his username and ip and dropped his TR to -1. After I banned him another user came to me telling me that alex owed him a green as well and had not responded at all. So that is two users you scammed and I banned you.

I am amazed that a mod would unban you and that you now have a +2 TR. I talked to admin and he said he did not unban you, so that leaves the other mods.

I never like to see anyone get scammed... it's sad you are back, and thanks for the nice reply....[/quotedcbc582f0f]

i will look into who did that its new to me.

and Jug its clear that you dont know all sides of the story so dont try to get so involved.[/quotedcbc582f0f]

what are you talking about... That is all i hear we all dont know all the sides of the story. Can you maybe tell us ALL the sides so we wont be so confused about everything then?[/quotedcbc582f0f]

what i am saying is you dont know every detail there are others on here that do but you in particular dont. And if you think the sole job of mods on this forum is to catch scammers then you are mistaken. Maybe you didnt know that this site before it had a TR module and trade system had to do it all manually and we sat there and did this(update TR manual, enforce trades, etc...). A mod must enforce the rules of the site. Determine what needs to be censord and many other things. So if you think the only job is to catch scammers you need to rethink. And as far as telling you every detail honestly this isnt your business but overall we have told all of you everything. Anything else all mighty JuG

well first off read my post, I said I WANT, and I ONLY CARE ABOUT finding scammers. Never said mods job is to only find scammers. Sorry if i am pissing you off.

Jesus Christ. First time I've stepped away from the forum all day and I miss a shit storm.
Sigh...where to begin...

[quote16686d036b="Stroid"]
A mod must enforce the rules of the site. Determine what needs to be censord and many other things. So if you think the only job is to catch scammers you need to rethink.[/quote16686d036b]

Isn't finding scammers the most important (or should be) the most important thing of this forum?

haha, glad to see that a known scammer is back the day after sweeed leaves.. amazing.

[quote665342ecc6="liquidskin"]haha, glad to see that a known scammer is back the day after sweeed leaves.. amazing.[/quote665342ecc6] to be honest with you he might have been unbanned before but i dont think there is any connection to that at all.

[quote665342ecc6="Sonofshoe"][quote665342ecc6="Stroid"]

A mod must enforce the rules of the site. Determine what needs to be censord and many other things. So if you think the only job is to catch scammers you need to rethink.[/quote665342ecc6]


Isn't finding scammers the most important (or should be) the most important thing of this forum?[/quote665342ecc6] It is a job of this forum but this forum consists of alot things not only for trading maybe thats why you came here but thats not what the forum was setup for (trading that is) maybe thats what it has evolved to but there is alot more involved in this site.

Doylnea, Where the FUCK are you getting your information from? Let me pick out just a few easily spotted lies.

[quote6d3aa67746="doylnea"]Wood put a picture of some random person in his sig claiming it was Sweed.[/quote6d3aa67746]Actually I never told anyone that it was Sweeed.
Bball thought that I had paintbrushed the fish in the girls mouth, when in fact - I had not.


[quote6d3aa67746="doylnea"]Wood now locks all threads associated with Sweedfish after deleting posts that go against his side of the story and after making a snide last post in the thread.[/quote6d3aa67746]I lock all threads about Sweeedfish? Really?
Is this thread locked? Has it been locked yet? No and no. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM

[quote6d3aa67746="doylnea"]Sweed claims that the reading of the PMs was a part of his anti-scamming activities. Unless you have evidence to the contrary, Sweed's assertions would stand up in Court.[/quote6d3aa67746]Uhm...Sweeed can say whatever he wants, but me and every other mod who has been paying attention knows that he read EVERY SINGLE PM.
He would "investigate" users who he had deemed sketchy by his own twisted standards.
So I guess you dont have any qualms with someone going through your PMs? Your [b6d3aa67746]PRIVATE[/b6d3aa67746] messages?
"Not if its all holy sweeed."

Riigghhtt roll


[quote6d3aa67746="doylnea"] Further, I think the fact that Wood locked the thread talking about his activities as an alleged scammer speaks volumes as to his consideration of his powers.[/quote6d3aa67746]
This is the real kicker in my opinion.
Have you taken two minutes to go through that thread?
First, its legitimate - and I worked it out with Jeff. Then, it turned into a flame fest. Eventually, it became PLASTERED with baby pictures and "FUCK YOU WOOD" (I'm sure you missed that part roll).
It was obvious the original reasoning behind the thread was completely lost.
An entire week went by without anyone posting in there before the flame fest had started up. For you to try and SPIN that into me abusing my powers is just SAD.
If a new issue arose, or if Jeff had more to say on the situation, he could have made A NEW POST.

DOYLNEA - THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE


And another thing.
Maybe you and whoever else is trying to make me some sort of scape goat for Sweeed's demise missed the post in the thread that stroid had made public for a short time (originally from the admin forum, posted on Aug 25th. in the "Hey Sweeed, could you stop deleting my posts?" thread)

[quote6d3aa67746="wood"]Sweeed, just unblock me from AIM but leave me alone.
These past few days you have been unjustly aggressive and ignorant towards me, when I have done nothing to provoke or warrant it.

I pleaded via or last AIM convo. I don't want us to be friends, but I don't want us to be enemies.
We can do our own things and coexist peacefully...I know it.[/quote6d3aa67746]


Arent you an adult dude?
Stop acting like some of these children who seem to think they understand the situation, when they dont know the half of it.

You can have whatever opinion you want, but maybe you should do a little fact-checking before you nominate yourself to be the town crier and narrate (ANNOUNCE) to the entire forum something that isn't your business.

Sorry, didnt mean to screw up your post doyle. I qwas taking a quote from yours and typed my enmtire response in your edit thing by accident. I'll post a screen shot of yuour unedited post in a sec. sorry

yeah id say finding scammers is very important, but the site isnt called findthescammersguide.com

id say making sure peole follow the rules and keeping the place running smoothly would be the 1st priority. there will probably never be a 100% foolproof way of finding scammers.

wood i remember you having the pic in your sig and you said something like

"that is sweeed btw"

[quote966737466f="JuG"]wood i remember you having the pic in your sig and you said something like

"that is sweeed btw"[/quote966737466f]

Thank you JuG. You just proved my entire point.

My signature read "The sweedish are real btw"
Illiteracy or Ignorance? ?
My guess is both ?

yeah you're wrong on that one JuG

yeah i never took from his profile that that WAS sweed it was talking about the fish in her mouth.

wait soooo these forums are like a sovereign nation that runs a semi democracy? except that we aren't the ones who vote who should be a mod- or are we? How do mods keep other mods in check? is there anyway to change the site layout from like gray and red to another color? anyways + karma for all our mods, just please..... no more drama....... wink

[quoteba980fa6ab="wood"][quoteba980fa6ab="JuG"]wood i remember you having the pic in your sig and you said something like

"that is sweeed btw"[/quoteba980fa6ab]

Thank you JuG. You just proved my entire point.

My signature read "The sweedish are real btw"
Illiteracy or Ignorance? ?
My guess is both ?[/quoteba980fa6ab]

I'll say this for you, in all sincerity, you would be a great debater - you're a master at deflecting the conversation away from yourself and onto someone else.

[quotedeedd83bcb="liquidskin"]haha, glad to see that a known scammer is back the day after sweeed leaves.. amazing.[/quotedeedd83bcb]

Actually PAL, alexvega was NEVER banned.
YAY! MORE HEARSAY! JUST WHAT THIS FORUM NEEDS!

AV worked out his past issues, and was told he could start back at ZERO and would be on a very tight leash.

Again, you claim he's back after Sweed leaves? Let's recap!
He was a +11. Demoted to -1 BUT NEVER BANNED.
He has been in contact with me for about a week now, well before sweeed drama.

Who told you he was banned? Sweeed?
He should know better then to start lies like that.
Maybe we are all getting a glimpse "of the real sweed"

[quote909c68eec7="doylnea"][quote909c68eec7="wood"][quote909c68eec7="JuG"]wood i remember you having the pic in your sig and you said something like

"that is sweeed btw"[/quote909c68eec7]

Thank you JuG. You just proved my entire point.

My signature read "The sweedish are real btw"
Illiteracy or Ignorance? ?
My guess is both ?[/quote909c68eec7]

I'll say this for you, in all sincerity, you would be a great debater - you're a master at deflecting the conversation away from yourself and onto someone else.[/quote909c68eec7]

I'll say this for you, good job responding to my half page rebuttle!

[quote1f7e3c1f8b="wood"][quote1f7e3c1f8b="liquidskin"]haha, glad to see that a known scammer is back the day after sweeed leaves.. amazing.[/quote1f7e3c1f8b]

Actually PAL, alexvega was NEVER banned.
YAY! MORE HEARSAY! JUST WHAT THIS FORUM NEEDS!

AV worked out his past issues, and was told he could start back at ZERO and would be on a very tight leash.

Again, you claim he's back after Sweed leaves? Let's recap!
He was a +11. Demoted to -1 BUT NEVER BANNED.
He has been in contact with me for about a week now, well before sweeed drama.

Who told you he was banned? Sweeed?
He should know better then to start lies like that.
Maybe we are all getting a glimpse "of the real sweed"[/quote1f7e3c1f8b]


Actually, yeah.. I read in sweeed's post that he banned him. Glad to see a scammer gets a second chance.. sigh

[quote0740f3fb81="wood"][quote0740f3fb81="liquidskin"]haha, glad to see that a known scammer is back the day after sweeed leaves.. amazing.[/quote0740f3fb81]

Actually PAL, alexvega was NEVER banned.
YAY! MORE HEARSAY! JUST WHAT THIS FORUM NEEDS!

AV worked out his past issues, and was told he could start back at ZERO and would be on a very tight leash.

Again, you claim he's back after Sweed leaves? Let's recap!
He was a +11. Demoted to -1 BUT NEVER BANNED.
He has been in contact with me for about a week now, well before sweeed drama.

Who told you he was banned? Sweeed?
He should know better then to start lies like that.
Maybe we are all getting a glimpse "of the real sweed"[/quote0740f3fb81]
He was banned, I banned both his ip and name. He even threatened me on aim several times saying "fuck you why am I banned" ... no need to lie about something like this .. In fact the other day when all this happened he msg'd me with another AIM name and said "HAHAHA you got de-modded" and I asked who he was and he told me I was the guy you banned, alexvega ...

I have no clue why he would say that if he wasn't banned ... I even remember going through the bans and seeing his name everytime ...=\

[quote8f66ace9ef="liquidskin"][quote8f66ace9ef="wood"][quote8f66ace9ef="liquidskin"]haha, glad to see that a known scammer is back the day after sweeed leaves.. amazing.[/quote8f66ace9ef]

Actually PAL, alexvega was NEVER banned.
YAY! MORE HEARSAY! JUST WHAT THIS FORUM NEEDS!

AV worked out his past issues, and was told he could start back at ZERO and would be on a very tight leash.

Again, you claim he's back after Sweed leaves? Let's recap!
He was a +11. Demoted to -1 BUT NEVER BANNED.
He has been in contact with me for about a week now, well before sweeed drama.

Who told you he was banned? Sweeed?
He should know better then to start lies like that.
Maybe we are all getting a glimpse "of the real sweed"[/quote8f66ace9ef]


Actually, yeah.. I read in sweeed's post that he banned him. Glad to see a scammer gets a second chance.. sigh[/quote8f66ace9ef]


LOL! I JUST TOLD YOU HE WAS NEVER BANNED AND YOU STILL CLING TO SWEEED'S LIE?
ASK ANY OTHER MOD OR ADMIN - HE NEVER WAS BANNED - EVER.

"Oh holy sweed. Your word is God's word. We worship you with peace signs and hearsay. HAIL SWEEED - KING OF THE IGNORANT AND EASILY DECIEVED!!!"

DEAR GOD PLEASE DONT START GOING BACK AND FORTH IN A PISSING FIGHT AGAIN! Fuck it would have better if sweed didnt say anything.

[quote63fe873ee7="sweeedfish"]He was banned, I banned both his ip and name. He even threatened me on aim several times saying "fuck you why am I banned" ... no need to lie about something like this .. In fact the other day when all this happened he msg'd me with another AIM name and said "HAHAHA you got de-modded" and I asked who he was and he told me I was the guy you banned, alexvega ...

I have no clue why he would say that if he wasn't banned ... I even remember going through the bans and seeing his name everytime ...=\[/quote63fe873ee7]

Sweeed's final PM to alexvega.

http//i3.photobucket.com/albums/y65/itswoodie/sweeednoban2.jpg[" alt=""/img63fe873ee7]

I hear goldfish have a 3 second memory.

i trust sweeed a hell of alot more than I trust you wood.. would a neutral mod be able to comment on whether or not this guy was banned or not?

you talk about having decency a lot wood so have the decency to take sweeds ip out of the post.

yes he was never banned sweeed is trying to make us look bad now that he is gone thats not a very nice thing to do sweeedy

stroid, you know I dont consider you to be neutral... no offense..

[quotef8de72240a="liquidskin"]stroid, you know I dont consider you to be neutral... no offense..[/quotef8de72240a]

ditto

LoL.
They are clinging to hope!

[quote2f41aaf683="liquidskin"]i trust sweeed a hell of alot more than I trust you wood.. would a neutral mod be able to comment on whether or not this guy was banned or not?[/quote2f41aaf683]

So when you do hear that sweed is lying from a neutral moderator, and you look like an ass lackey, will you PUHLEASEEEE SHUT UP?

[quotec42f7cd7f4="Stroid"]yes he was never banned sweeed is trying to make us look bad now that he is gone thats not a very nice thing to do sweeedy[/quotec42f7cd7f4]
What are you basing this off of ? I even talked to admin and he couldn't find if he was banned or not, its in his 15 gb of apache logs ... Wood if you post that pm why dont you post alex's pm back to me sayin "fuck you" .. I banned him right after that ... why would I not ban a guy who says "fuck you" and isn't going to comply with me or the trader ...

Why would he msg me and say "fuck you why did you ban me" on several occasions, and why the other day when I asked who he was did he say "im that guy you banned, alexvega ... " ?????

I have no use to lie about this, none.. only reason I brought it up is because I did not think it was fair having a known scammer (scammed on 2 occasions) was fair to the users of the board.. .ifurl==http://=http:///url you scam once you scam again ...

[quote2eb4bff123]Doylnea, Where the FUCK are you getting your information from? Let me pick out just a few easily spotted lies.

[quote2eb4bff123="doylnea"]Wood put a picture of some random person in his sig claiming it was Sweed.[/quote2eb4bff123]Actually I never told anyone that it was Sweeed.
Bball thought that I had paintbrushed the fish in the girls mouth, when in fact - I had not.[/quote2eb4bff123]
Two things
1) I said I was going from memory (because all of the pertinent threads have been deleted from public view).
2) Who cares? I agree Sweed crossed the line but defacing the picture of you and your GF, and said as much in my original post. Whether you insinuated or wrote that the picture in your sig was Sweed or not doesn't matter - it was background info as to why he created the picture of you.
[quote2eb4bff123]
[quote2eb4bff123="doylnea"]Wood now locks all threads associated with Sweedfish after deleting posts that go against his side of the story and after making a snide last post in the thread.[/quote2eb4bff123]I lock all threads about Sweeedfish? Really?
Is this thread locked? Has it been locked yet? No and no. HMMMMMMMMMMMMMMMM[/quote2eb4bff123]
I'm waiting for it - hell you said yourself you've been away from the forum ;)

[quote2eb4bff123][quote2eb4bff123="doylnea"]Sweed claims that the reading of the PMs was a part of his anti-scamming activities. Unless you have evidence to the contrary, Sweed's assertions would stand up in Court.[/quote2eb4bff123]Uhm...Sweeed can say whatever he wants, but me and every other mod who has been paying attention knows that he read EVERY SINGLE PM.
He would "investigate" users who he had deemed sketchy by his own twisted standards.
So I guess you dont have any qualms with someone going through your PMs? Your [b2eb4bff123]PRIVATE[/b2eb4bff123] messages?
"Not if its all holy sweeed."
Riigghhtt roll[/quote2eb4bff123]
I don't give a rat fart if Sweed or anyone else reads my PMs. I know that anything I write in them can be read, and is likely read. I treat PMs and posts as as I do corporate email - anyone with admin rights can read any email you've ever sent from your work/school email account.

[quote2eb4bff123][quote2eb4bff123="doylnea"] Further, I think the fact that Wood locked the thread talking about his activities as an alleged scammer speaks volumes as to his consideration of his powers.[/quote2eb4bff123]
This is the real kicker in my opinion.
Have you taken two minutes to go through that thread?
First, its legitimate - and I worked it out with Jeff. Then, it turned into a flame fest. Eventually, it became PLASTERED with baby pictures and "FUCK YOU WOOD" (I'm sure you missed that part roll).
It was obvious the original reasoning behind the thread was completely lost.
An entire week went by without anyone posting in there before the flame fest had started up. For you to try and SPIN that into me abusing my powers is just SAD.
If a new issue arose, or if Jeff had more to say on the situation, he could have made A NEW POST. DOYLNEA - THIS IS NOT ROCKET SCIENCE
[/quote2eb4bff123]
1) that thread was always a flame fest thread; when it was resurrected on August 22, it progressed rather slowly until you posted 20% of the last 14 messages in the thread flaming others.
2) If jeff had started another thread I can guess how it would have ended (starts with an L and ends with D and in the middle is OCKE).
3) and thank goodness it's not rocket science, because if NASA can't even get it right, I can't imagine how anyone here could.

[quote2eb4bff123]And another thing.
Maybe you and whoever else is trying to make me some sort of scape goat for Sweeed's demise missed the post in the thread that stroid had made public for a short time (originally from the admin forum, posted on Aug 25th. in the "Hey Sweeed, could you stop deleting my posts?" thread)

[quote2eb4bff123="wood"]Sweeed, just unblock me from AIM but leave me alone.
These past few days you have been unjustly aggressive and ignorant towards me, when I have done nothing to provoke or warrant it.

I pleaded via or last AIM convo. I don't want us to be friends, but I don't want us to be enemies.
We can do our own things and coexist peacefully...I know it.[/quote2eb4bff123]
Arent you an adult dude?
Stop acting like some of these children who seem to think they understand the situation, when they dont know the half of it.

You can have whatever opinion you want, but maybe you should do a little fact-checking before you nominate yourself to be the town crier and narrate (ANNOUNCE) to the entire forum something that isn't your business.[/quote2eb4bff123]

I don't care about anyone here more than anyone else. And I'd love to do some fact checking, but since every thread related to Sweed's demodding has been deleted (with the exception of this one), that would be an impossible proposition. Finally, as I wrote you when you IMd me

[quote2eb4bff123]
[2028] xxx and was thinking, and reminding myself
[2028] xxx that this is the internet
[2028] xxx and I've made a lot of money as a part of the free(...).com scene
[2029] xxx and so, I'd like to remain as civil and forthright with other long time free(...),com folks
[2029] xxx as such, I'm not going to worry about things I don't have control over
[2030] xxx Thanks for modding the FIPG.[/quote2eb4bff123]

[quote8498a41919="liquidskin"]stroid, you know I dont consider you to be neutral... no offense..[/quote8498a41919]
i yeah but i have never lied to anyone on this forum and i have been here way longer then sweeed or wood. As well he was never ban just had his TR lowered. As well i have never talked badly about sweeed before he started bashing me and accusing me of things. I have always said he was a great mod with the exception of the reasons why he got bant. But i didnt start anything with him and imo i still havent. I speak the truth on the subject in the admin section he made a thread saying should we ban or not and actually wood is the only person that responded and he said ban but the ban never happened. And if you look at that pm sweeed never did ban him. Maybe somebody else can confirm that but from what i see the ban never happened. And to be honest with you guys i think its a bit fucked up if you guys dont trust me on this forum.

[quote22be73084b="wood"]LoL.
They are clinging to hope!

[quote22be73084b="liquidskin"]i trust sweeed a hell of alot more than I trust you wood.. would a neutral mod be able to comment on whether or not this guy was banned or not?[/quote22be73084b]

So when you do hear that sweed is lying from a neutral moderator, and you look like an ass lackey, will you PUHLEASEEEE SHUT UP?[/quote22be73084b]

how about we get admin in here with the logs? prove him wrong and Ill shutup.

like i said maybe we can get somebody else to confirm that but from what i gathered he was never banned i could be wrong

Let's forget about this. He's gone and he doesn't want to be here anymore. That's that.

[quotee9d6727018="doylnea"]And I'd love to do some fact checking, but since every thread related to Sweed's demodding has been deleted (with the exception of this one), that would be an impossible proposition. [/quotee9d6727018]

Since you don't have facts, I guess assumptions and hearsay are good enough substitutions, right?

[quote708f57d530="wood"][quote708f57d530="doylnea"]And I'd love to do some fact checking, but since every thread related to Sweed's demodding has been deleted (with the exception of this one), that would be an impossible proposition. [/quote708f57d530]

Since you don't have facts, I guess assumptions and hearsay are good enough substitutions, right?[/quote708f57d530]Well, Since you cant prove him wrong with fact...

[quote25e0aa8f26="Stroid"]like i said maybe we can get somebody else to confirm that but from what i gathered he was never banned i could be wrong[/quote25e0aa8f26]
Ugh stroid I know you wouldn't know, you don't have logs like admin does ...
[quote25e0aa8f26="Stroid"]yes he was never banned sweeed is trying to make us look bad now that he is gone thats not a very nice thing to do sweeedy[/quote25e0aa8f26]
Why would you make a post like that if you don't have your hands on these logs ... that doesn't seem fair .. All you are able to see is if a member is banned, not who was unbanned..

All my post before was supposed to do is have him banned again and find who unbanned him and ask the question as to why he was unbanned ...

[quote294bd664bb="wood"][quote294bd664bb="doylnea"]And I'd love to do some fact checking, but since every thread related to Sweed's demodding has been deleted (with the exception of this one), that would be an impossible proposition. [/quote294bd664bb]

Since you don't have facts, I guess assumptions and hearsay are good enough substitutions, right?[/quote294bd664bb]

I stand by what I've written. Further, [quote294bd664bb][2028] xxx and was thinking, and reminding myself
[2028] xxx that this is the internet
[2028] xxx and I've made a lot of money as a part of the free(...).com scene
[2029] xxx and so, I'd like to remain as civil and forthright with other long time free(...),com folks
[2029] xxx as such, I'm not going to worry about things I don't have control over
[2030] xxx Thanks for modding the FIPG.[/quote294bd664bb]

[quote6e044131c5="sweeedfish"][quote6e044131c5="Stroid"]like i said maybe we can get somebody else to confirm that but from what i gathered he was never banned i could be wrong[/quote6e044131c5]
Ugh stroid I know you wouldn't know, you don't have logs like admin does ...
[quote6e044131c5="Stroid"]yes he was never banned sweeed is trying to make us look bad now that he is gone thats not a very nice thing to do sweeedy[/quote6e044131c5]
Why would you make a post like that if you don't have your hands on these logs ... that doesn't seem fair .. All you are able to see is if a member is banned, not who was unbanned..

All my post before was supposed to do is have him banned again and find who unbanned him and ask the question as to why he was unbanned ...[/quote6e044131c5]
i wrote that before with the info i had...i wrote the next post to clarify that i could possibly be wrong but from what i gathered i didnt see he was banned. You could be right ill talk to admin.

On May 22nd sweeed made a post about alexvega in the admin forum posting that PM he received from alexvega saying to "suck his balls", saying he adjusted his TR to -1 and asked for a vote if he should be banned. Wood was the only mod that replied to the thread, and he replied with "I say bant". So it's entirely possible that he was banned considering he didnt send any pm's from May 31st up until August 23rd. Unless there is definate proof that he wasn't banned during that time, it's hard to say that he wasn't.

[quote43b680e318="comppimp"]On May 22nd sweeed made a post about alexvega in the admin forum posting that PM he received from alexvega saying to "suck his balls", saying he adjusted his TR to -1 and asked for a vote if he should be banned. Wood was the only mod that replied to the thread, and he replied with "I say bant". So it's entirely possible that he was banned considering he didnt send any pm's from May 31st up until August 23rd. Unless there is definate proof that he wasn't banned during that time, it's hard to say that he wasn't.[/quote43b680e318] this much is true and possibly what happened but it honestly could have gone either way

thanks comp.

[quotec869631b3b="Stroid"][quotec869631b3b="sweeedfish"][quotec869631b3b="Stroid"]like i said maybe we can get somebody else to confirm that but from what i gathered he was never banned i could be wrong[/quotec869631b3b]
Ugh stroid I know you wouldn't know, you don't have logs like admin does ...
[quotec869631b3b="Stroid"]yes he was never banned sweeed is trying to make us look bad now that he is gone thats not a very nice thing to do sweeedy[/quotec869631b3b]
Why would you make a post like that if you don't have your hands on these logs ... that doesn't seem fair .. All you are able to see is if a member is banned, not who was unbanned..

All my post before was supposed to do is have him banned again and find who unbanned him and ask the question as to why he was unbanned ...[/quotec869631b3b]
i wrote that before with the info i had...i wrote the next post to clarify that i could possibly be wrong but from what i gathered i didnt see he was banned. You could be right ill talk to admin.[/quotec869631b3b]
Stroid, all my post was meant to do is to have alexvega banned again, he is no good, that is why I banned him in the first place.

I don't even care if one of you say "oops I clicked unbanned by accident" All my post was made to do is to have him banned again, he is deadly with that +2 TR, he has scammed 2 people that I know of so far.

Instead you guys have to deny it and say I'm a huge liar and want to cause shit ... please just ban him again .. I am 100% sure I banned him ... please ?

I didn't unban him.

[quote145d0d390d="sweeedfish"]Instead you guys have to deny it and say I'm a huge liar and want to cause shit ... please just ban him again .. I am 100% sure I banned him ... please ?[/quote145d0d390d]

You really shouldn't let people get under your skin like you do Sweeed.
I know AV IM'd you saying "i got my TR back" and laughed in your face.

It's cute when you beg.

[quotec76c8b90ce="sweeedfish"]
Stroid, all my post was meant to do is to have alexvega banned again, he is no good, that is why I banned him in the first place.

I don't even care if one of you say "oops I clicked unbanned by accident" All my post was made to do is to have him banned again, he is deadly with that +2 TR, he has scammed 2 people that I know of so far.

Instead you guys have to deny it and say I'm a huge liar and want to cause shit ... please just ban him again .. I am 100% sure I banned him ... please ?[/quotec76c8b90ce] i believe you man im just saying none of us unbanned him and by you saying that it made it seem like we are unbanning scammers after you leave or something. Either way i will ask admin about it and we will know if your right i will appologize. Im not afraid of saying i was wrong, but from what i gathered there isnt conclusive evidence saying he was banned.

And another thing.

Didnt you just say that every time you ban someone, you PM them before they are banned, and let them know what they are being banned for?
Yeaaa you did.

So why is does your last PM to AlexVega only say 'im dropping your TR down to -1"


And if I was the only person who voted for it, then why would the ban go through? 1 vs 4 usually loses...

[quotea754efe6ea="wood"]And another thing.

Didnt you just say that every time you ban someone, you PM them before they are banned, and let them know what they are being banned for?
Yeaaa you did.

So why is does your last PM to AlexVega only say 'im dropping your TR down to -1"


And if I was the only person who voted for it, then why would the ban go through? 1 vs 4 usually loses...[/quotea754efe6ea]
By pm'ing them before I ban them I meant that I don't just read the scam thread and ban them right away, I let them reply to me and get involved in the situation.

I dropped his TR after he read my msg's and did not respond.

I only wanted to take a vote because this was after Admin said that we needed to run it past the other mods if the guy had over 200 posts or so. After he said suck my balls I decided to just ban him ... =\

Wood you are still cuthroat at me, it's funny .. just drop it .. I'm not directing anything at you.

To be fair, that PM from sweeed to alexvega was on May 19th. Sweed created the thread with the reply back from alexvega on the 22nd. Like he said earlier, whenever a user disrespects a mod like that, especially considering that user was in the midst of being accused of scamming, there's no reason why he shouldn't be banned. A vote doesn't really mean a whole lot since its still ultimately up to the mod that brought it up, unless someone was against it, which noone was.

[quote77eb28017f="sweeedfish"]Wood you are still cuthroat at me, it's funny .. just drop it .. I'm not directing anything at you.[/quote77eb28017f]


LoL. Its not you sweeed. Its these children who are taking this out on me.

damn it's funny, the best mods wood and sweed can't find a love for eachother),,, both you guys are the nice mods... just merried!)

use the voting thread for discussion.