Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S?

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clerick

12-07-2005 00:11:43

http//www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45203


FROM JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN
Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S
Terrorists, bombs smuggled across Mexico border by MS-13 gangsters

Posted July 11, 2005
1222 p.m. Eastern



© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com



WASHINGTON – As London recovers from the latest deadly al-Qaida attack that killed at least 50, top U.S. government officials are contemplating what they consider to be an inevitable and much bigger assault on America – one likely to kill millions, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "American Hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.

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Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union – including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market.

In addition to detonating its own nuclear weapons already planted in the U.S., military sources also say there is evidence to suggest al-Qaida is paying former Russian special forces Spetznaz to assist the terrorist group in locating nuclear weapons formerly concealed inside the U.S. by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Osama bin Laden's group is also paying nuclear scientists from Russia and Pakistan to maintain its existing nuclear arsenal and assemble additional weapons with the materials it has invested hundreds of millions in procuring over a period of 10 years.

The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the U.S., which is seen by al-Qaida and its allies as "the Great Satan."

At least half the nuclear weapons in the al-Qaida arsenal were obtained for cash from the Chechen terrorist allies.

But the most disturbing news is that high level U.S. officials now believe at least some of those weapons have been smuggled into the U.S. for use in the near future in major cities as part of this "American Hiroshima" plan, according to an upcoming book, "The al-Qaida Connection International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," by Paul L. Williams, a former FBI consultant.

According to Williams, former CIA Director George Tenet informed President Bush one month after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that at least two suitcase nukes had reached al-Qaida operatives in the U.S.

"Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons," wrote Williams. "One suitcase bore the serial number 9999 and the Russian manufacturing date of 1988. The design of the weapons, Tenet told the president, is simple. The plutonium and uranium are kept in separate compartments that are linked to a triggering mechanism that can be activated by a clock or a call from the cell phone."

According to the author, the news sent Bush "through the roof," prompting him to order his national security team to give nuclear terrorism priority over every other threat to America.

However, it is worth noting that Bush failed to translate this policy into securing the U.S.-Mexico border through which the nuclear weapons and al-Qaida operatives are believed to have passed with the help of the MS-13 smugglers. He did, however, order the building of underground bunkers away from major metropolitan areas for use by federal government managers following an attack.

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Bin Laden, according to Williams, has nearly unlimited funds to spend on his nuclear terrorism plan because he has remained in control of the Afghanistan-produced heroin industry. Poppy production has greatly increased even while U.S. troops are occupying the country, he writes. Al-Qaida has developed close relations with the Albanian Mafia, which assists in the smuggling and sale of heroin throughout Europe and the U.S.

Some of that money is used to pay off the notorious MS-13 street gang between $30,000 and $50,000 for each sleeper agent smuggled into the U.S. from Mexico. The sleepers are also provided with phony identification, most often bogus matricula consular ID cards indistinguishable from Mexico's official ID, now accepted in the U.S. to open bank accounts and obtain driver's licenses.

The Bush administration's unwillingness to secure the U.S.-Mexico border has puzzled and dismayed a growing number of activists and ordinary citizens who see it as the No. 1 security threat to the nation. The <A href="http//www.minutemanhq.com"/">Minuteman organization is planning a major mobilization of thousands of Americans this fall designed to shut down the entire 2,000-mile border as it did in April with a 23-mile stretch in Arizona.

According to Williams' sources, thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their individual roles in the coming "American Hiroshima" plan.

Bin Laden's goal, according to the book, is to kill at least 4 million Americans, 2 million of whom must be children. Only then, bin Laden has said, would the crimes committed by America on the Arab and Muslim world be avenged.

There is virtually no doubt among intelligence analysts al-Qaida has obtained fully assembled nuclear weapons, according to Williams. The only question is how many. Estimates range between a dozen and 70. The breathtaking news is that an undetermined number of these weapons, including suitcase bombs, mines and crude tactical nuclear weapons, have already been smuggled into the U.S. – at least some across the U.S.-Mexico border. The future plan, according to captured al-Qaida agents and documents, suggests the attacks will take place simultaneously in major cities throughout the country – including New York, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles.

Batman

12-07-2005 00:20:37

This seems like a reliable source, seeing as it's "Al-Qaeda", not "Al-Qaida".

ben laden

12-07-2005 00:32:54

Quit shoving it off on silly spelling. Remember Usama and Osama? Either one's right, probably the same deal here.

Batman

12-07-2005 00:35:44

I'm just saying that, although it could be true, the source doesn't look too reliable.

Archon810

12-07-2005 01:47:43

this seems highly disturbing... I really dont see how it can be prevented, if they indeed already smuggled those into the US. This is very scary stuff...

CoMpFrEaK

12-07-2005 02:09:13

fck that, im moving to the UK.

theysayjump

12-07-2005 02:15:15

3 tickets please D

CoMpFrEaK

12-07-2005 02:21:45

[quoted90f8b37f5="theysayjump"]3 tickets please D[/quoted90f8b37f5]

Naw no need, gotta get out of the US. At least the UK isnt the main target of these terroist groups

comppimp

12-07-2005 04:23:27

Just another story to hype up a book. Been there, seen that.

jadem

12-07-2005 04:48:02

[quoteb3c3ea3729="CoMpFrEaK"]fck that, im moving to the UK.[/quoteb3c3ea3729]

UK? I'd rather go to Canada. At least they're so quiet no one remembers them!

comppimp

12-07-2005 04:50:21

[quote1fb92549f2="jadem"][quote1fb92549f2="CoMpFrEaK"]fck that, im moving to the UK.[/quote1fb92549f2]

UK? I'd rather go to Canada. At least they're so quiet no one remembers them![/quote1fb92549f2]

More things are legal in Canada too D

kposse77

12-07-2005 06:27:13

The timing of this story seems a little too coincidental. Why is it that this guy is coming out with this information immediately after the bombings in London? If Tenet really told Bush a month after 9/11 that there were nukes in the US, I have to believe that as much as I hate him, Bush would have the common sense to worry about saving his own ass as opposed to sending hundreds of thousands of troops to the other side of the planet.

Rich

tonydanza92

12-07-2005 07:17:52

move to canda, nobody will attack canada..

this is some scary stuff though, think about how many illegal mexicans have come across the border freely. It would be fairly easy to smuggle a nuke.

I don't think this is true but it is still pretty realistic. Won't stop me from visiting any major cities though... fuckin terrorists

J4320

12-07-2005 08:18:45

Or you could move to Alaska if you still want to be a US citizen.

I'm not scared about this. Terrorists attack cities with lots of civilians, here in the suburbs I think I'm okay.

And nukes? That's a scary thought...

decile

12-07-2005 09:44:45

http//www.nationalterroralert.com/updates/index.php?p=371

J4320

12-07-2005 09:46:44

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According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the “American Hiroshima” and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.[/quote51bf751bdf]

American Hiroshima, those bastards.

good2speed

12-07-2005 10:14:15

LOl @ how Americans actually pay attention to these threats now. I rememeber in the summer of 2000 Bin Laden himself was talking all this crap and America is like whatever nothing will happen. this is just another scare story. Funny which evidence you guys do believe in. Said w/e to Osama himself but yet your saying omfg to some unworthy report with no credentials.

J4320

12-07-2005 10:18:35

[quoteb94e4456c6="good2speed"]LOl @ how Americans actually pay attention to these threats now. I rememeber in the summer of 2000 Bin Laden himself was talking all this crap and America is like whatever nothing will happen. this is just another scare story. Funny which evidence you guys do believe in. Said w/e to Osama himself but yet your saying omfg to some unworthy report with no credentials.[/quoteb94e4456c6]

So your saying America should just ignore this entire threat?

good2speed

12-07-2005 11:02:00

Not ignore the threat in whole because its nothing new. We know terrorists would love to strike with nuclear bombs for quite a while now. I remember in 2k2 we had a big scare about dirty bombs in NYC. This is nothing new. Theres thousands of people who get across the border daily. Not new news. The funny part of the article is that Russians hid nukes in the US and now are giving away their top secret info for money. If they write it you'll believe it. As a matter of fact if i tried hard enough and presented these questionable facts I could make you believe that aliens are secretly planning to disrupt the 2006 elections

J4320

12-07-2005 11:12:03

[quotee4bab9f439="good2speed"]Not ignore the threat in whole because its nothing new. We know terrorists would love to strike with nuclear bombs for quite a while now. I remember in 2k2 we had a big scare about dirty bombs in NYC. This is nothing new. Theres thousands of people who get across the border daily. Not new news. The funny part of the article is that Russians hid nukes in the US and now are giving away their top secret info for money. [be4bab9f439]If they write it you'll believe it.[/be4bab9f439] As a matter of fact if i tried hard enough and presented these questionable facts I could make you believe that aliens are secretly planning to disrupt the 2006 elections[/quotee4bab9f439]

Believe me, I'm skeptical about a lot of things. I never said I believed this even though I might have seemed to indicate towards it.

theysayjump

12-07-2005 12:27:49

this would have been all over the mainstream media since they are biased fear mongers anyway. this could/would be the greatest fear story they could porbably use, but it hasnt been on the news.

i think living in the suburbs would do no good if there was a nuclear attack, and i dont think living in Canada would do much good either.

one nuclear attack on a power plant in the east (threee mile island) could wipe out the entire east coast.

being in the suburbs or Canada for simultaneous nuclear attacks across the country would be like pissing into the wind.

CoMpFrEaK

12-07-2005 12:32:53

[quote23aa9688a1="J4320"]Or you could move to Alaska if you still want to be a US citizen.

I'm not scared about this. Terrorists attack cities with lots of civilians, here in the suburbs I think I'm okay.

And nukes? That's a scary thought...[/quote23aa9688a1]


North Koreas bombs can reach Alaska

J4320

12-07-2005 12:35:26

[quote0b194cce45="CoMpFrEaK"][quote0b194cce45="J4320"]Or you could move to Alaska if you still want to be a US citizen.

I'm not scared about this. Terrorists attack cities with lots of civilians, here in the suburbs I think I'm okay.

And nukes? That's a scary thought...[/quote0b194cce45]


North Koreas bombs can reach Alaska[/quote0b194cce45]

Oh yeah, you're right....


I'M NOT SAFE ANYWHERE!11!!11!1!11!!! MUST HIDE!!111!

tonydanza92

12-07-2005 12:42:44

[quotecfbade1a72="good2speed"]aliens are secretly planning to disrupt the 2006 elections[/quotecfbade1a72]

THEY ARE?¿?

roll

hehehhehe

12-07-2005 12:42:53

OMG if anyone believes this unsubstantiated crap, you mind as well go admire Alex Jones. For those of you who believe what is written in this article, can you please post links to reputable news stories that can collaborate with the info presented here? How the fuck does this 'former FBI consultant' (doesn't really mean much) know that Al Qaeda has these suitcase nukes and know the inner workings (not very detailed - probably taken from some movie) and inscriptions of these exact ones lol?

Not saying that the border isn't a threat, but this article has so much fiction in it... ridiculous.

theysayjump

12-07-2005 12:43:31

if there was a nuclear war, the entire population of the earth will be destroyed....there will be no place to hide......unless you're a cowardly politician and hide 400000000000 feet underground with your banky wink

J4320

12-07-2005 12:46:11

[quotee76b19472a="theysayjump"]if there was a nuclear war, the entire population of the earth will be destroyed....there will be no place to hide......unless you're a cowardly politician and hide 400000000000 feet underground with your banky wink[/quotee76b19472a]

Or a cockroach or a twinkie.
























j/k wink But seriously, what is it with cockroaches and twinkies surviving nukes? I guess they meant radiation.

theysayjump

12-07-2005 12:49:14

yeah thats fucked up.......how can a cockroach withstand a nuclear war, but it dies if you stand on it?

and when i 1st tasted twinkies, the 1st thing i thought was "wow, those things taste like shite, i bet they could withstand a nuclear holocaust!"

mr0x

12-07-2005 13:36:31

[quote3b961b5276="clerick"]http//www.wnd.com/news/article.asp?ARTICLE_ID=45203


FROM JOSEPH FARAH'S G2 BULLETIN
Al-Qaida nukes already in U.S
Terrorists, bombs smuggled across Mexico border by MS-13 gangsters

Posted July 11, 2005
1222 p.m. Eastern



© 2005 WorldNetDaily.com



WASHINGTON – As London recovers from the latest deadly al-Qaida attack that killed at least 50, top U.S. government officials are contemplating what they consider to be an inevitable and much bigger assault on America – one likely to kill millions, destroy the economy and fundamentally alter the course of history, reports Joseph Farah's G2 Bulletin.

According to captured al-Qaida leaders and documents, the plan is called the "American Hiroshima" and involves the multiple detonation of nuclear weapons already smuggled into the U.S. over the Mexican border with the help of the MS-13 street gang and other organized crime groups.

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Al-Qaida has obtained at least 40 nuclear weapons from the former Soviet Union – including suitcase nukes, nuclear mines, artillery shells and even some missile warheads. In addition, documents captured in Afghanistan show al-Qaida had plans to assemble its own nuclear weapons with fissile material it purchased on the black market.

In addition to detonating its own nuclear weapons already planted in the U.S., military sources also say there is evidence to suggest al-Qaida is paying former Russian special forces Spetznaz to assist the terrorist group in locating nuclear weapons formerly concealed inside the U.S. by the Soviet Union during the Cold War. Osama bin Laden's group is also paying nuclear scientists from Russia and Pakistan to maintain its existing nuclear arsenal and assemble additional weapons with the materials it has invested hundreds of millions in procuring over a period of 10 years.

The plans for the devastating nuclear attack on the U.S. have been under development for more than a decade. It is designed as a final deadly blow of defeat to the U.S., which is seen by al-Qaida and its allies as "the Great Satan."

At least half the nuclear weapons in the al-Qaida arsenal were obtained for cash from the Chechen terrorist allies.

But the most disturbing news is that high level U.S. officials now believe at least some of those weapons have been smuggled into the U.S. for use in the near future in major cities as part of this "American Hiroshima" plan, according to an upcoming book, "The al-Qaida Connection International Terrorism, Organized Crime and the Coming Apocalypse," by Paul L. Williams, a former FBI consultant.

According to Williams, former CIA Director George Tenet informed President Bush one month after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks that at least two suitcase nukes had reached al-Qaida operatives in the U.S.

"Each suitcase weighed between 50 and 80 kilograms (approximately 110 to 176 pounds) and contained enough fissionable plutonium and uranium to produce an explosive yield in excess of two kilotons," wrote Williams. "One suitcase bore the serial number 9999 and the Russian manufacturing date of 1988. The design of the weapons, Tenet told the president, is simple. The plutonium and uranium are kept in separate compartments that are linked to a triggering mechanism that can be activated by a clock or a call from the cell phone."

According to the author, the news sent Bush "through the roof," prompting him to order his national security team to give nuclear terrorism priority over every other threat to America.

However, it is worth noting that Bush failed to translate this policy into securing the U.S.-Mexico border through which the nuclear weapons and al-Qaida operatives are believed to have passed with the help of the MS-13 smugglers. He did, however, order the building of underground bunkers away from major metropolitan areas for use by federal government managers following an attack.

http//media.fastclick.net/w/get.me...=6&tp=8&d=s&c=1

Bin Laden, according to Williams, has nearly unlimited funds to spend on his nuclear terrorism plan because he has remained in control of the Afghanistan-produced heroin industry. Poppy production has greatly increased even while U.S. troops are occupying the country, he writes. Al-Qaida has developed close relations with the Albanian Mafia, which assists in the smuggling and sale of heroin throughout Europe and the U.S.

Some of that money is used to pay off the notorious MS-13 street gang between $30,000 and $50,000 for each sleeper agent smuggled into the U.S. from Mexico. The sleepers are also provided with phony identification, most often bogus matricula consular ID cards indistinguishable from Mexico's official ID, now accepted in the U.S. to open bank accounts and obtain driver's licenses.

The Bush administration's unwillingness to secure the U.S.-Mexico border has puzzled and dismayed a growing number of activists and ordinary citizens who see it as the No. 1 security threat to the nation. The <A href="http//www.minutemanhq.com"/">Minuteman organization is planning a major mobilization of thousands of Americans this fall designed to shut down the entire 2,000-mile border as it did in April with a 23-mile stretch in Arizona.

According to Williams' sources, thousands of al-Qaida sleeper agents have now been forward deployed into the U.S. to carry out their individual roles in the coming "American Hiroshima" plan.

Bin Laden's goal, according to the book, is to kill at least 4 million Americans, 2 million of whom must be children. Only then, bin Laden has said, would the crimes committed by America on the Arab and Muslim world be avenged.

There is virtually no doubt among intelligence analysts al-Qaida has obtained fully assembled nuclear weapons, according to Williams. The only question is how many. Estimates range between a dozen and 70. The breathtaking news is that an undetermined number of these weapons, including suitcase bombs, mines and crude tactical nuclear weapons, have already been smuggled into the U.S. – at least some across the U.S.-Mexico border. The future plan, according to captured al-Qaida agents and documents, suggests the attacks will take place simultaneously in major cities throughout the country – including New York, Boston, Washington, Las Vegas, Miami, Chicago and Los Angeles.[/quote3b961b5276]

This is stupid. First enough radioactive material to make a bomb would get the old Geiger counter off the scale! It's be as conspicious as a glowing man crossing the border.

Even if they try to shield it, they would need like a few tons of lead to shield it.

Not to mention that atom/nuclear bombs aren't that easy to come by. Countries have to devote a lot of money and decades to get even get a working one.