New info from Mr Sofa Sets

This is a email i have recieved from mr sofa sets today. This shall give everyone the answers they are looking for. This was a letter that he sent his publishers. Do not ask me for his email or anything like that. I am posting this as a courtesy to our members to see the info.


[quoteed6383c39e]I apologize that my members are still trying to resolve issues with me by taking them to you. I assure you that all issues of credit have been handled and all credit was up to date when my site went off-line. The fact of the matter is that the same users that are complaining to you are users who had been committing fraud on my site and are the reason that my site is still down.

During the time that my site was up I continually updated credit to users as I received it from my network of publishers. After a few weeks I began to receive emails from users stating that credit had not been received from certain advertisers. I responded to each email and stated that no credit is to be given until I received credit from the advertisers. This response was not good enough for many users and they began to take up smear campaigns against my site using public forums such as Gearlive as vehicles to post false information. All of this was fully expected by me when I made the decision to start an incentive site and I was able to convey my good intentions to my users. Things were going fine but then my personal contact information began showing up on these forums and I began having problems with my other publishers.

It seems that these users, primarily active members of the Gearlive community, had begun contacting my publishers and were accusing me of fraud. This caused me to lose the cooperation of one of my publishers all together and I received warnings from another company that I was to discontinue my communication with the "Free Site Community" and I was no longer permitted to advertise on such forums.

For the record, there is currently no credits or gifts due to my users. As I said before, all credit was up to date when my site went down and nobody, with the exception of Mr. Wolfe, has yet completed their requirements to get a free gift. Mr. Bryan Wolfe at last check had 18 verified and completed referrals, enough to gain a free gift, however he had not yet ordered at the time of my site going down.

Now I have been trying to get my site running again with an entirely new tracking system as well as new fraud prevention measures. This process was to be completed next week with a re-launch of my site. All of my previous users' accounts were to be as they were before the down-time and I was going to gain new users through an email marketing campaign until the word-of-mouth advertising gained enough momentum to support the site on its own.

My most recent snag in the process has been that my domain, "FreeNotebookPC.com" has been hijacked and don't know if I will be able to recover it. You see, it became susceptible to hijacking due to the fact that it was brought to my registrars attention that my contact information was not valid. My contact info was invalid because my users were calling me at home and at work. Upon changing my personal phone numbers and not updating the info with my registrar, I lost the rights to the domain and it was picked up by cyber-squatters just this week.

All of this was set into motion by the overly combative Gearlive community and their inability to stay out of the workings of my business. They have been hindering me from adapting my business model to meet the new demands of my publishers and have continually involved themselves in matters that they should not. The emails that you continue to receive are a perfect example of what I'm talking about. If these false and unfounded accusations keep up then I'm sure I will lose you too as a publisher which will further my difficulties in re-establishing my site.

As I have stated several times in this email, all credit is up to date on my site and no orders were denied without proper cause. There is and never will be any measure of fraud on my part and further I will not tolerate fraud from the users of any of my sites. I have chosen not to support the Gearlive community until my site can stand on its own. This is not because I do not like the Gearlive community, but because I have been left with no choice in light of the actions that their members have taken against me.

My experiences have shown me that if I try to be an active member of Gearlive then my site will surely fail. When my site re-launches all of my users, including the Gearlive members, will again be able to access their accounts and will still have the same status as before. Upon completion of their requirements I will ship out the gift of their choosing. I am sending a copy of this email to Mr. John Lemp, as he also inquired about the complaints from my users. I am also going to forward a copy to Wolfeman as he is being discussed in the context of this email. I used to have a friendship with him so hopefully he will agree that my reasons are valid. If he chooses to, he can inform the rest of Gearlive of my intentions and of the reason for this extended down-time. I apologize for any difficulties that I may have caused and can assure you that the reason for the down-time is to ensure that these types of things do not happen anymore. [/quoteed6383c39e]

Hmmm... He was the guy with that laptop site right?

yeah

Interesting.

Yeah he was, then he just left.

I didn't read the whole thing, too long. but interesting.

I didn't read the whole thing but he is saying that his domain was hijacked? That's what all of the failure sites say. ?

I love how he tries to put all the blame on Gearlive. We were always supportive until he just disappeared...

Yea...we'll see what comes of this. I put my neck out for him on GearLive and I was embarassed by his actions.

If he comes back....HOOOOO BOY

Rumble

this is fucking bullshit. the guy straight up disappeared and there's no excuse to that. if he ever comes back, i am all 4 instant ban.

If he comes back he should give everyone who started his site (even if they didnt complete it) paypal based on the number of refs they have if they want it.

[quote09dd385bda="Crynos"]If he comes back he should give everyone who started his site (even if they didnt complete it) paypal based on the number of refs they have if they want it.[/quote09dd385bda]

Yeah probably not going to happen but he should to make up for all the time and effort...

[quote4b343f18b5="Crynos"]If he comes back he should give everyone who started his site (even if they didnt complete it) paypal based on the number of refs they have if they want it.[/quote4b343f18b5]

If he came back...I'm sure it wouldn't be to immediately bankrupt himself (

[quote0979c25fd6="Wolfeman"]I love how he tries to put all the blame on Gearlive. We were always supportive until he just disappeared...[/quote0979c25fd6]

Exactly. I followed that whole saga and they did not start saying things were fishy until he was gone for a good 2 weeks. I remember people were still coming back to his thread on there saying "I wonder if he's got moved in yet, come back Sofasets" And all failure sites like to blame the users. Curious, If his site was hijacked, how exactly will he know who's accounts to save? Also he said all credits were up to date, but they weren't b/c I never got credit for the offer I did for his site and others didn't as well. I lost out in a trade b/c I did an offer for someone who never got credit from sofasets so they couldn't do my site. I don't even know who the hell it is now, but I still want my damn credit. B/c I legitmatly completed an offer.

I'm just disappointed in him, b/c his letter seems like BS. I'm sure his publishers didn't tell him to just not talk to the free site community and just leave them hanging to give them the impression that he was scamming them. And he could have very well just had given Stroids a heads up and he could have relayed the message to everyone. But no, he went MIA for months? And he sounds like an tool in his letter [i0979c25fd6]"Mr. Bryan Wolfe at last check had 18 verified"[/i0979c25fd6], Uh... just call him Wolfeman like the rest of the internet does. Don't try to get all business like, after you just dropped off the face of the earth while you were running a supposed business.

[quote2afc933991="Retro"][i2afc933991]"Mr. Bryan Wolfe at last check had 18 verified"[/i2afc933991], Uh... just call him Wolfeman like the rest of the internet does. Don't try to get all business like, after you just dropped off the face of the earth while you were running a supposed business.[/quote2afc933991]

LOL, kinda funny...

Well, as far as I can tell that letter was written to a publisher which has witheld payment. Who knows what he's up to...sounds to me like he's just trying to get his long-held check from the publisher(s). Also, by "hijacked" he's not referring to his site, only his domain. More specifically, because his information was invalid the domain registrar pulled his license to the domain and sold it to someone else. See "cyber-squatting" on Google.

[quote2d924c7168="FreeOffersNow"]Well, as far as I can tell that letter was written to a publisher which has witheld payment. Who knows what he's up to...sounds to me like he's just trying to get his long-held check from the publisher(s). Also, by "hijacked" he's not referring to his site, only his domain. More specifically, because his information was invalid the domain registrar pulled his license to the domain and sold it to someone else. See "cyber-squatting" on Google.[/quote2d924c7168]

I've talked to his publisher and I'm pretty sure he has already been paid in full so maybe he is legitimately trying to make ammends. I fucking hope so but I don't want to get my hopes up...

Yeah, I know what cyber-squatting is. So his domain is gone but he still might have access to his files from his host I'm assuming. But that doesn't sound all that likely.

Well goodluck Mr. Bryan Wolfe

[quotecd2b6e22db="Retro"]Well goodluck Mr. Bryan Wolfe[/quotecd2b6e22db]

Thanks.

Bryan Wolfe. That's an awesome last name.

[quote6a03b2e5f5="flatline"]Bryan Wolfe. That's an awesome last name.[/quote6a03b2e5f5]

Well thanks. I kike it too...

[quote91747d845b="Retro"][quote91747d845b="Wolfeman"]I love how he tries to put all the blame on Gearlive. We were always supportive until he just disappeared...[/quote91747d845b]

Exactly. I followed that whole saga and they did not start saying things were fishy until he was gone for a good 2 weeks. I remember people were still coming back to his thread on there saying "I wonder if he's got moved in yet, come back Sofasets" And all failure sites like to blame the users. Curious, If his site was hijacked, how exactly will he know who's accounts to save? Also he said all credits were up to date, but they weren't b/c I never got credit for the offer I did for his site and others didn't as well. I lost out in a trade b/c I did an offer for someone who never got credit from sofasets so they couldn't do my site. I don't even know who the hell it is now, but I still want my damn credit. B/c I legitmatly completed an offer.

I'm just disappointed in him, b/c his letter seems like BS. I'm sure his publishers didn't tell him to just not talk to the free site community and just leave them hanging to give them the impression that he was scamming them. And he could have very well just had given Stroids a heads up and he could have relayed the message to everyone. But no, he went MIA for months? And he sounds like an tool in his letter [i91747d845b]"Mr. Bryan Wolfe at last check had 18 verified"[/i91747d845b], Uh... just call him Wolfeman like the rest of the internet does. Don't try to get all business like, after you just dropped off the face of the earth while you were running a supposed business.[/quote91747d845b]

i believe he was talking about Gearlive not FIPG in regards to people harassing him from the beginning. and i do remember that GL was all over him in the beginning. Not that they didnt have a right to a few weeks later

[quote8d2b2c97e2="Stroid"][quote8d2b2c97e2="Retro"][quote8d2b2c97e2="Wolfeman"]I love how he tries to put all the blame on Gearlive. We were always supportive until he just disappeared...[/quote8d2b2c97e2]

Exactly. I followed that whole saga and they did not start saying things were fishy until he was gone for a good 2 weeks. I remember people were still coming back to his thread on there saying "I wonder if he's got moved in yet, come back Sofasets" And all failure sites like to blame the users. Curious, If his site was hijacked, how exactly will he know who's accounts to save? Also he said all credits were up to date, but they weren't b/c I never got credit for the offer I did for his site and others didn't as well. I lost out in a trade b/c I did an offer for someone who never got credit from sofasets so they couldn't do my site. I don't even know who the hell it is now, but I still want my damn credit. B/c I legitmatly completed an offer.

I'm just disappointed in him, b/c his letter seems like BS. I'm sure his publishers didn't tell him to just not talk to the free site community and just leave them hanging to give them the impression that he was scamming them. And he could have very well just had given Stroids a heads up and he could have relayed the message to everyone. But no, he went MIA for months? And he sounds like an tool in his letter [i8d2b2c97e2]"Mr. Bryan Wolfe at last check had 18 verified"[/i8d2b2c97e2], Uh... just call him Wolfeman like the rest of the internet does. Don't try to get all business like, after you just dropped off the face of the earth while you were running a supposed business.[/quote8d2b2c97e2]

i believe he was talking about Gearlive not FIPG in regards to people harassing him from the beginning. and i do remember that GL was all over him in the beginning. Not that they didnt have a right to a few weeks later[/quote8d2b2c97e2]

I don't think thats true I just think he is using GL as a scapegoat. We were always supportive of his site and 1 user had a problem but the majority of us sided with Sofa. I think if he blames GL his publishers know what it is more than FIPG and know that scammers do go on our boards (here too, stupid fucking AndrewZ)...

stroid. is your name John Lemp?? lol

[quoted9376891e4="EatChex89"]stroid. is your name John Lemp?? lol[/quoted9376891e4]

John Lemp=Owner of Clickbooth (I believe)

[quote7892099bb0="freedesktoppc"][quote7892099bb0="EatChex89"]stroid. is your name John Lemp?? lol[/quote7892099bb0]

John Lemp=Owner of Clickbooth (I believe)[/quote7892099bb0]

Yeah thats right...

oh. i thought it was stroid. cuz stroid got the email and sofa said he was forwarding it to John Lemp

[quote3cc8c8b706="EatChex89"]oh. i thought it was stroid. cuz stroid got the email and sofa said he was forwarding it to John Lemp[/quote3cc8c8b706]

well I think this announcement is due to some pressure upon the Clickbooth ownership to release his info. He has been in constant contact with them the whole time, and he always gave them a diferent story. I hope this one is true. I think it finally came down to the point where clickbooth forced him to make an announcement. While they technically can not do anything to him because he didn't break any of their rules, they are still disappointed with his actions, from what I understand.

I never pursued his site but whoever did I would be careful that hes not just coming back one more round for another big haul. He had so many signups from users on this board. No possible way I would trust him anymore.

Seems strange that he would just disappear with no contact at all. Least he could have done is popped in to say that it would be coming back.

...I don't know what to think...

umm clickbooth didnt make a announcment sofa used to be my buddy until he betrayed all of us. he sent me a email appologizing for what he did in respect to me...i stood up for him, defended him call it what you will then he made me look like a ass so he was appologizing. I know as of now he is a scam but the good nature in me wants to hope he can make things right but thats a tough thing to do and it will be really hard for him to regain my trust.

[quote748426cc7d="Wolfeman"]Yeah thats right...[/quote748426cc7d]

Wolfeman what is this! how long have you had the same avatar as me?

he doesnt his avatar changes all the time

[quoted904f815b4="PumaPride77"]Wolfeman what is this![/quoted904f815b4]

lol

[quotea01ff6f7b4="Stroid"]umm clickbooth didnt make a announcment sofa used to be my buddy until he betrayed all of us. he sent me a email appologizing for what he did in respect to me...i stood up for him, defended him call it what you will then he made me look like a ass so he was appologizing. I know as of now he is a scam but the good nature in me wants to hope he can make things right but thats a tough thing to do and it will be really hard for him to regain my trust.[/quotea01ff6f7b4]

He made us all look bad, since we all stood up for him

[quoted9b37730b8="CoMpFrEaK"][quoted9b37730b8="Stroid"]umm clickbooth didnt make a announcment sofa used to be my buddy until he betrayed all of us. he sent me a email appologizing for what he did in respect to me...i stood up for him, defended him call it what you will then he made me look like a ass so he was appologizing. I know as of now he is a scam but the good nature in me wants to hope he can make things right but thats a tough thing to do and it will be really hard for him to regain my trust.[/quoted9b37730b8]

He made us all look bad, since we all stood up for him[/quoted9b37730b8]
agreed

did he even get banned from here? and if not, why not?

[quoteb2721189c5="theysayjump"]did he even get banned from here? and if not, why not?[/quoteb2721189c5]

Well he never really commited a bannable offense did he? I mean his site turned out to be bad, but there wasnt really a point/need to ban him, was there?

He didn't need to be banned...he left voluntarily.

no he didnt because i want him to have the option of coming back and speaking for himself...he isnt posting and hasnt been on since he left i have watched for his name to show up

[quotee96490f51e="FreeOffersNow"]He didn't need to be banned...he left voluntarily.[/quotee96490f51e]

well duh, you think he would have stayed around after scamming so many?

yeah but he was being accused of scamming, which is basically what he did (provided that this e-mail is bullshit).

he got a lot of money from people and nobody got a cent from him (even if it was only one person who completed the site).

id say that would be a bannable offense. all the other scammers are banned.

well i have my reasons so it will stay the way it is

[quotedfc86afab8="Stroid"]well i have my reasons so it will stay the way it is[/quotedfc86afab8]


stroids and sofa sets has it going on......


dun dun dun

i have no problem with him coming back and shit, but if everyone thought he was a scammer back then i wouldve thought he would be banned for being a scammer.

if he is legit and wants to make ammends and get it back up and shit, then i say go for it.

we need more legit sites out there, especially notebook ones since Gratis (even if they were to make one) would have one for a while and OC is shite.

i for one would probably do his site (if i had the money) but i cant be so sure about everyone else who already has done it.

[quotea34ba4d9a8="theysayjump"]i have no problem with him coming back and shit, but if everyone thought he was a scammer back then i wouldve thought he would be banned for being a scammer.

if he is legit and wants to make ammends and get it back up and shit, then i say go for it.

we need more legit sites out there, especially notebook ones since Gratis (even if they were to make one) would have one for a while and OC is shite.

i for one would probably do his site (if i had the money) but i cant be so sure about everyone else who already has done it.[/quotea34ba4d9a8]

how dare you question the admin/mods!




lol

[quote95d1d1ed59="CoMpFrEaK"][quote95d1d1ed59="theysayjump"]i have no problem with him coming back and shit, but if everyone thought he was a scammer back then i wouldve thought he would be banned for being a scammer.

if he is legit and wants to make ammends and get it back up and shit, then i say go for it.

we need more legit sites out there, especially notebook ones since Gratis (even if they were to make one) would have one for a while and OC is shite.

i for one would probably do his site (if i had the money) but i cant be so sure about everyone else who already has done it.[/quote95d1d1ed59]

how dare you question the admin/mods!




lol[/quote95d1d1ed59]

lol oops roll 8)

i understand your reasoning but i want to leave it open for him to come back and speak for himself although i dont know that he will or wont

i think he will get flamed a lot, which is not cool whether he scammed or not......i just hope it doesnt get too out of hand.

[quote65ab6a4435="theysayjump"]i think he will get flamed a lot, which is not cool whether he scammed or not......i just hope it doesnt get too out of hand.[/quote65ab6a4435]

I would think the mods would let him back under a new idenity

yes he will but we as mods have decided to really be more active in stoping flames unless that person is really retarded lol

but people will still know who he is.....although granted not as many people recognise him with a new username.......but word of mouth would spread.

i assume he would come back as mr sofa sets nothing new

[quote443a012f5f="Stroid"]yes he will but we as mods have decided to really be more active in stoping flames unless that person is really retarded lol[/quote443a012f5f]

i take 1/2 the blame for n00b flaming lol

sometimes its justified though comp......sometimes wink

[quoteead6fb77df="theysayjump"]sometimes its justified though comp......sometimes wink[/quoteead6fb77df]

P

Is this guy really comming back after just bailing on everyone? Not even a check in email or update? Riiiiight.

[quote5ccd0f3b43="Stroid"]unless that person is really retarded lol[/quote5ccd0f3b43]


If you ask me, it doesn't get much more retarded then sofa sets

[quoted52619ef4c="wood"][quoted52619ef4c="Stroid"]unless that person is really retarded lol[/quoted52619ef4c]


If you ask me, it doesn't get much more retarded then sofa sets[/quoted52619ef4c]


i think that guy in the trading section could have taken the gold for that.

"Regardless of the rules you have to go first" lol