the lowball po-po (not inflation)
generic00001
15-05-2005 13:22:47
Is it just me or is there some kind of artificial raising of value of a referral?
For example somebody makes a legitimate offer, like a 11 trade for freeipods or 15 dollars for a green at a middle of the road site, like freemacgifts; in turn, users get on the trade thread and state "you will never get anybody to bite on the bait." OR "Good luck nobody will do a referral for that" Well of course not if people write that in the thread, it is self-fulfilling. I am not looking to rip people off by any means, but seriously, it typically costs 5 bucks and 15 minutes to do an offer at a site, and yes some are more rare than others, but come one.
I think the whole "freeipods.com referrals are worth there weight in gold" idea is a load of doodie. It is only true because people shoot down threads before anybody can have a conversation about it.
I still have freeipods open, i would love to get a two for one for it, but it is it really worth 35 bucks? At that price you could bail with a couple greens and just go to a newer site, and still come out ahead.
It is like there is a whole economy built on people who want to make a living at doing referrals, damn unions.
Am I alone here, probably. I get surly on Sundays.
MicroChris
15-05-2005 13:49:20
Well, most people on this site have done freeipods. For them to track down a friend to do the offer for them takes time, and I'd expect a little more then 10 bucks for my work in tracking down a referral.
Just my .02
Matt8789
15-05-2005 13:51:08
Yeah it sucks that the prices are so high..they really shouldnt be but there arent alot of offers to choose from on these sites and with everyone wanting faster and faster greens the sites get harder to do. I dont think its worth $35 for a freeipod.com green either. I would like to talk to the person who started offering such a high price for refs. and now its snowballed
M2outtaCA
15-05-2005 14:12:56
I think the prpblem is that some people are willing to pay more for refs to get them done quick. Like I was offerin $15 for freeipodshuffles which I feel is fair because for the three refs it adds up to $45 and the paypal option for whatever is like only $90 but then someone goes and offers $25 per ref and everyone expects to get that much just to do the site. So ya man the inflation sucks
PoPoJiJo
15-05-2005 15:05:53
supply & demand look it up or even free market economy
ugh people aggravate me with stupid comments like this
I mean obviously if the price was to high people wouldnt pay it and it would drop down to a price people are willing to pay this is basic stuff people come on its how our entire country runs this is why I dont think everyone should get to vote
if I wasnt in a hurry Id write a shit load more but in the mean time dont get your pantys in a bunch because the prices are higher then you want to pay
generic00001
15-05-2005 15:06:25
I have no problem with people actually offering high dollar for referrals, if they can do it, power to them. My gripe is with people who run around the trading post crying "ripoff" at legitimate offers. I mean use discretion people, there is a difference between crazy lowball offers and legitimate low but fair offers. If somebody posts a legitimate low but fair offer and somebody, for wahtever reason, posts in the thread "what a ripoff, but good luck" well of course no business isn't going to occur. I think policing for ripoff artists is fine, but the renegade policers who wine whenever sombody offers under 20 bucks are ridiculous.
The point is that this isn't free market, it is people running around trying to jack prices for no reason, that is the definition of artificial economy, and you are right it will correct itself, but there is no reason for screwing people over by crudding up there trade threads.
Phbs83
15-05-2005 15:08:30
Supply & Demand - simple as that.
The demand for referrals (especially freeipods.com) is very high, while the supply is relatively low. High Demand & Low Supply = higher prices.
Sucks, but it's economics 101 ;)
$10 for freeipods.com is a really low price, and noone will take it, especially when there are plenty of people out there willing to spend $30 and above per referral.
generic00001
15-05-2005 15:12:22
again, no problem with high prices, just folks screaming bloody murder, for sub 20 dollar offers. the screaming is scary you see.
scary.
idrinklisterine
15-05-2005 16:03:03
[quote046c2ed4bd="PoPoJiJo"]supply & demand look it up or even free market economy
ugh people aggravate me with stupid comments like this
I mean obviously if the price was to high people wouldnt pay it and it would drop down to a price people are willing to pay this is basic stuff people come on its how our entire country runs [b046c2ed4bd]this is why I dont think everyone should get to vote[/b046c2ed4bd]
if I wasnt in a hurry Id write a shit load more but in the mean time dont get your pantys in a bunch because the prices are higher then you want to pay[/quote046c2ed4bd]
HAHA, + Karma.
generic00001
15-05-2005 16:31:47
as much as i enjoy all these economics lessons, that isn't really the point (probably my fault for calling this post inflation)
It is folks tainting perfectly repectable trade threads that chaps my hide, or get my panties in a bunch, if you will.
But I don't wear panties on Sunday anyway.
idrinklisterine
15-05-2005 16:39:22
I doubt people offering something like $20 for Freeipods would get trades even if people didn't post in their threads. And, it could also be argued that the people posting in those threads are just looking out for new people, since they could easily get $15 more somewhere else.
generic00001
15-05-2005 16:48:02
I'd agree with that. Looking out for new folks is not something I would argue against. I really meant sub 20 for any variety of referrals, ones that are by no means rare.
clearestchannel40
15-05-2005 19:48:14
Goddamn Communist.
slease
15-05-2005 20:45:18
[quote0ece4aadb4="clearestchannel40"]Goddamn Communist.[/quote0ece4aadb4]
If you can make posts like this then you can respond to your pms right?
clearestchannel40
15-05-2005 20:47:19
[quote2b02ad70aa="slease"][quote2b02ad70aa="clearestchannel40"]Goddamn Communist.[/quote2b02ad70aa]
If you can make posts like this then you can respond to your pms right?[/quote2b02ad70aa]
I have been responding to PMs. I'm just taking a break from offers and trading and stuff.
slease
15-05-2005 20:49:06
gotcha
kwesi1
16-05-2005 13:56:38
I understand where you're coming from,this site is for people who want free stuff,with minimal cost,and offering $25 per referral and outpricing everyone else sort of defeats the whole purpose of what we are all trying to do,not to mention its contrary to the spirit of this. besides,if you're rich enough to buy refs at $25 a pop,why even bother trying to get an ipod for free when you can obviously afford to go out and buy one....right comrades ...;)
Phbs83
16-05-2005 13:59:27
[quote3829cf274d="kwesi1"]I understand where you're coming from,this site is for people who want free stuff,with minimal cost,and offering $25 per referral and outpricing everyone else sort of defeats the whole purpose of what we are all trying to do,not to mention its contrary to the spirit of this. besides,if you're rich enough to buy refs at $25 a pop,why even bother trying to get an ipod for free when you can obviously afford to go out and buy one....right comrades ...;)[/quote3829cf274d]
Nope ) $25 a pop is benefit for the two people involved. You get paid to sign-up, the other person gets much closer to his "free" gift. Win-win situation )
kwesi1
16-05-2005 14:02:40
I see your point,but being one of those who wants to have his cake and eat it too,I had to whine just a little..)
generic00001
16-05-2005 16:23:45
if people are charging 25 that is fine, but is somebody posts a moderately low offer, I call that leaving room for negotiation. And folks with no interest in doing business going into the thread and stating it is a bad deal and you must offer higher is just silly, and it kills any opportunity to do any business cause it flags the thread as a bad deal.
All this talk about free market, I would think all you purists would like to let things pan out naturally, instead of slandering.(please excuse the run-ons)
Phbs83
16-05-2005 16:48:12
Actually slander is oral defamation ;) Libel is the written one, and considering it's a forum where we do write, it is not slandering )
Plus, people are not lying it's a bad deal) $10 for freeipods is not [quotecb43c666f3]moderately low offer[/quotecb43c666f3] it is [bcb43c666f3]very low[/bcb43c666f3] offer )
Really, just offer people the market price, and you could have saved all this time whining to edit your trade, and make it more attactive.
stimpy
16-05-2005 17:54:45
I agree with generic, I think it's stupid when people go posting about how "someone will never pay you $15" or "try raising your prices" or something to that effect. Unless someone offers like $5, that's just stupid. Anyway, stop wasting time crapping on someone else's thread and post your own thread offering more money for that site. Or if you already have that site done, just shut up.
generic00001
16-05-2005 18:12:27
Semantics, big whoop.
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Amen, Stimpy!