4daily vs StudioTraffic

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=11512

purduesafety13

13-04-2005 07:47:28

What are the pro's and con's of each site? How many people are investing with these guys? Confidence level with each one? Lets start a little review of these guys shall we?

eggbot

13-04-2005 08:59:00

when you upgrade with 4daily, it only lasts for 50 days.
when you upgrade with studiotraffic, it lasts for 1 year.

basically, ST is a slower, steadier stream of money

i'm sticking with ST

purduesafety13

13-04-2005 09:12:30

Hmm good call no doubt. What about other people?

Godrockdj

13-04-2005 10:19:29

I've invested $100 in ST and plan to invest more. They are a reliable, legitimate company and I trust them with my money. I'm unsure of how long they will last, but they have the base to go for at least several more years.

Haven't checked out the other site and don't really plan to. From what I've heard most people only trust ST.

purduesafety13

13-04-2005 17:20:36

whats the most anyone here as invested with ST? Seems like a lot of the ST forum members are foreign...

PodTopia

13-04-2005 17:23:50

I haven't done them yet but are thinking about it. Autosurfing sounds good, and I just got $1000 from OC. If I invested $200, what would my return be?

Peinecone

13-04-2005 17:28:44

I have $120 invested in ST and plan to upgrade with the money i get from DVR's4free.

PodTopia

13-04-2005 17:34:43

When do you get paid for StudioTraffic? I'm about to have $975 from three OC sites and would put $300 into ST if I knew I could get a return on May 1. It's $30 a month!!

Peinecone

13-04-2005 17:50:33

You get paid at the beginning of each month. However, you will never get back your initial investment. You get a return on it. Podtopia, you would get $30 on may 1st (if you had done it ten days), and could withdraw it or compound it to your invesment.

Collateral

13-04-2005 17:58:14

I really wouldn't put in any money into it unless it was like $1,000+. I just don't feel like waiting a year to make what I put in. Say I put in $400, I would only get $480 years end which isn't worth it for me.

Peinecone

13-04-2005 18:20:20

[quote05f3a7e33e="Collateral"]I really wouldn't put in any money into it unless it was like $1,000+. I just don't feel like waiting a year to make what I put in. Say I put in $400, I would only get $480 years end which isn't worth it for me.[/quote05f3a7e33e]

Not quite true. If you put in $400 and reinvested your money for 12 months, the next month your payout would be $2,273.70

Here is an easy simulator for ST. Enter the amount you want to put in and it doeas the math.
http//www.studiotraffic.org/forum/showthread.php?t=5521

Free4Me Peter

13-04-2005 18:21:24

Yeah, ST is all about compounding your earnings.

lakersin2025

13-04-2005 19:49:12

How much money have you guys made from this?

doylnea

13-04-2005 19:58:01

I've posted this elsewhere...

[quotea7da41f5b6]I am only going to post in this thread once -

That said, if you put ANY money into StudioTraffic and encourage or suggest that your referrals do the same, you are likely participating in a pyramid or MLM scheme, which is, in many states, forbidden by statute. I would also say that it's very likely this is a Ponzi scheme (despite the claims that StudioTraffic has been around for 2 years), and that the payouts to the older members are merely checks cut on the new contributions made by new members.

If you rely solely on their initial $10 contribution to generate your income, I tend to believe that you would not fall under the Pyramid/MLM/Ponzi label and all you have to lose is the time you spend setting up the auto4surf application and your account.

As everyone has rightly suggested, if you choose to enter this venture and choose to put your own money into it, do so with the knowledge that there is no-one backing them up as an insurer or guarantor (like the FDIC does with banks) and that it's entirely possible (and I consider likely) that at some point in the near future that StudioTraffic will dry up and blow away with lots and lots of money in their pockets...

The counter-argument to StudioTraffic being a Ponzi scheme is that they are relying on advertisers dollars to pay out. I can't imagine an advertiser staying on as an advertiser with the knowledge that StudioTraffic has a tool which allows totally passive, no-interaction surfing. I would guess (though don't know since I haven't signed up) that you can minimize the autosurf tool, and thus never see an ad or website. If that's the case, it's unlikely an advertiser would ever get a return on their investment, and jump ship soon afterwards.

call me cynical.
[/quotea7da41f5b6]

purduesafety13

13-04-2005 21:18:00

so the ultimate question is...how can they afford to pay out? can anyone explain the economics of this operation? How can they pay out so much for so little investment?

doylnea

13-04-2005 21:43:45

[quote37a828e3ac="purduesafety13"]so the ultimate question is...how can they afford to pay out? can anyone explain the economics of this operation? How can they pay out so much for so little investment?[/quote37a828e3ac]

...Think choose your own adventure...

3 questions

1) Can you read? If yes, go to question 2) (if no, you're screwed)

2) Did you read my post - the one preceding yours? If yes, go to question 3) (if no, you're still screwed, how'd you get to question 2?)

3) Do you still have questions? (Go to A1), A2) or A3) if you have questions)

A1) They don't pay out - their forums are populated by fake users to make you sign up (unlikely)

A2) They pay out based on the advertisers paying them for you looking at the advertisers websites (unlikely - see my previous post for reasons why)

A3) They're paying out on money that people are putting in now...at some point they'll stop paying out, citing some sort of technical difficulties and then keep all the money they haven't paid out and on one will ever hear from them again, except in the Federal lawsuit (most likely)

mrwzk

14-04-2005 04:53:22

i doubt it. i talked with owner guy he is making tons of money a month y wooud he want to end a good thing. he invests people money they upgrade with getting a rate of return on it. and hopes that people dont surf every single day. lots of people upgrade to lets say a 50$ and than relize its not worth it and they stop doing it. you cant withdraw money till you have 100$ account. they have many many streams of money. they woudlnt be doing this is they werent making money and 2 years of doing it i doubt they have spent all this time and effort into creating a giant scam. i have personally been paid 117$ from this site i cant post a screenshot of it if anyone wants just pm me. this site isnt a lone in giving a small percentage of your money for surfing each day. many companys do it meaning there is soem way to make money everyone is happy. you can request payout whenever your account balance is over 5$ and your acc lvl is 100$ or higher. usualyt begining of month because most people withdraw all money and have low account balance and your earnings arent added to balance till end of month. if anyone wants proof of this site pm me and i will send it to you.

purduesafety13

14-04-2005 07:44:36

I need a legit US guy that has been paid for reals. Post your screenshot here if you've been paid.

Phbs83

14-04-2005 11:51:28

Hm,
Correct me if I'm wrong but this thing is fishy...

So, you invest $100 for example.
Your bank account is -$100 (obvious)
Each day you make $1 and in 100 days you get $100
You withdraw the money and you're at $0 in your bank account
100 days passed and you earned nothing
In 265 days you will supposedly have $265

So, how are you making 365% as they claim on the web-site??!?

Peinecone

14-04-2005 12:04:09

[quoteb835fe9921="Phbs83"]Hm,
Correct me if I'm wrong but this thing is fishy...

So, you invest $100 for example.
Your bank account is -$100 (obvious)
Each day you make $1 and in 100 days you get $100
You withdraw the money and you're at $0 in your bank account
100 days passed and you earned nothing
In 265 days you will supposedly have $265

So, how are you making 365% as they claim on the web-site??!?[/quoteb835fe9921]

If you did withdraw the $100 after the 100 days, you would be even. After that, you will still make $1 a day. You make %1 daily for up to a year (hence the 365%.) After the year, you investment is lost and your account level goes back to zero. You get the most return by reinvesting your money into your account though.

Phbs83

14-04-2005 12:09:03

Still doesn't make any sense;)
If you don't do anything (i.e. invest) after the first 100 days, you'll get $265 and then your investment is lost. In one year you'll be +$265 (without doing anything) and that is 265% return no matter how you calculate it)

A) I wouldn't risk with a company which mades such a "small" mistake
B) 265% ROI is ridiculously high, and as we know "if something sounds too good to be true, it is". [ba7f933db07]NOONE[/ba7f933db07] can afford this.

Peinecone

14-04-2005 12:21:47

[quote51e61af097="Phbs83"] as we know "if something sounds too good to be true, it is"[/quote51e61af097]

I'm sure most of us thought getting a free ipod was too good to be true. wink

Phbs83

14-04-2005 12:24:52

[quote7d261c4d07="Peinecone"][quote7d261c4d07="Phbs83"] as we know "if something sounds too good to be true, it is"[/quote7d261c4d07]

I'm sure most of us thought getting a free ipod was too good to be true. wink[/quote7d261c4d07]

There is still logic behind freeipods.com) But ST's one is well... nonsense)

purduesafety13

14-04-2005 14:28:00

Then goto www.studiotraff.com, visit the forums and explain to me how all those people all have claimed to have been paid....what about all those screenshots? is this just a giant scam? its really really ellaborate and successful if you ask me...

purduesafety13

14-04-2005 14:28:46

Plus, why is there a text link sponsored by freeipodguide.com for studiotraffic if it is so shady....i'm trying to see if this is legit before i commit anything to it...but if its something that is legit, i dont want to miss out! LOL

kevxross

14-04-2005 14:30:17

Hell I'll sign up, but I won't invest anything. Would it help anyone out if I sign up under them, but don't intend to invest? Anyone wanna slide me a couple bucks on Paypal to do it? ;)

Phbs83

14-04-2005 20:31:35

I will stay away.
If anyone promises me more than 20% return on investment (and even that is a bit too high), i'll laugh at them in their face. Things just don't work like this, otherwise everyone was going to do it and become millionaire)
Read doylnea's posts again, and do the math)

adam254

15-04-2005 06:50:42

[quote30385464e1="purduesafety13"]Plus, why is there a text link sponsored by freeipodguide.com for studiotraffic if it is so shady....i'm trying to see if this is legit before i commit anything to it...but if its something that is legit, i dont want to miss out! LOL[/quote30385464e1]

FreeiPodGuide is not sponsored by Studio Traffic, somebody paid FreeiPodGuide to post their referral link up there.

purduesafety13

15-04-2005 08:55:18

hmmm...any other comments? i'm thinking of putting big money in this...