Proposal to stop "auctioning"

I'm sure I'm not the only person here aginst newbies, "auctioning off" their referalls. It's going to get out of control soon. In my opinion it should be banned.

make this a petition if you agree

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[quote5b8065f7b7="iusa"]they're = they are

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Oh what a dick.... )

Isn't an auction though actually determining what the fair market value is for a specific referral? If someone is willing to pay a certain amount for a referral than that is their fair market value for a referral. If I set a specific price that I want to pay for a referral than that is not necessarily fair market value because I don't know if anyone will accept that price.

Personally, I think auctions are a good idea.

Just my two cents.

moving this to off topic, btw, this topic is pretty useless, if your against auctioning its because your unable to obtain the referrals due to competition. Basically if you offer 10 and i offer 15, its essentially the same thing. However with auctioning, it pretty much eliminates the necessity for asking,"hmm are you willing to bump up your offer" without actually saying it.

[quote6bc1363c0f="Mr Sofa Sets"][quote6bc1363c0f="iusa"]they're = they are

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I thought the same thing as iusa. D

I vote that it stays, people who offer the most deserve it.

It's like saying, eBay isn't fair because I don't have that much money and others do and they get the items because they bid more than me and I think I should get it for my bid.

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[quote18c2954851="Mr Sofa Sets"][quote18c2954851="iusa"]they're = they are

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Who will pay me the most to sign up for FreeIpods.com? lol

Personally, I'm all for it.

It gives the people who pay for referrals another option.
As long as the noobies go first as prescribed in the rules, then there is nothing wrong with auctioning, IMO. ;)

[quotea8edaf0521="jackknife2ooo"]I'm sure I'm not the only person here aginst newbies, "auctioning off" their referalls. It's going to get out of control soon and eventually eliminate fair market here. In my opinion it should be banned.

make this a petition if you agree[/quotea8edaf0521]
lol eliminate the fair market price no offense but youre not out of highschool yet are you?

I gotta agree with the consensus -- I don't mind auctioning, really. As long as people stick to the rules (no more than one thread per week) and clearly label their threads, I don't see any particular reason why it should spin out of control. And if it does? Create a subforum for auctions.

I agree with JackKnife actually. Look at the trading forum right now. There are at least 3 threads with OP's auctioning their referrals right now, none of them have more than 20 posts - and while post count isn't the best indication of future performance, it's a reasonable way to determine their contribution to forum in general...

I propose something like requiring anyone who auctions their referrals to have a Trade Record of at least 5 and have more than 50 posts. In this way, there will be fewer totally new traders coming here just to get paid.

The appeal of trading here, at least for me, is the Trade Record, which is Forum administered, rather than just some BS part of your signature as it is at other places...One thing you could try is requiring all auction style trades to go through ebay, or as CronoDekar suggested, setting up yet another subforum, but not giving everyone access to that forum - only giving access to those who request it, that way the Trading Forum won't be cluttered up with auctions...

That said, eliminating auctioning isn't going to work because there will always be a free market price set for referrals, though IMO, the market prices are already set pretty easily in the trade forum on their own...

my biggest qualm with it is that it draws the entire process out that much longer.

personally, im against it. If you want to auction off your referal, goto a zoo (ie - gearlive.com forums).

[quote95a2a51c55="wood"]my biggest qualm with it is that it draws the entire process out that much longer.

personally, im against it. If you want to auction off your referal, goto a zoo (ie - gearlive.com forums).[/quote95a2a51c55]

nice points wood. Would have liked to have made those myself.

I think the point of auctioning off a referral is for one purpose only to get the highest amount of money to go green for someone.

Personally, I liked the idea that deadheart did.... offer a time limit and a "higher than others" price for a green. It serves well because it gets him more greens in less time (which, isn't that the whole point of the trading system?) and it gets more money to those that can do it without the issue of being outbid.

If I had the money, I'd do what deadheart did. Not only did he get +7 in pretty much one day, he got more greens in a week than I've gotten in 6 weeks.

So for me, auctions are pretty much pointless if the purpose is trading.

Wood lays out a great opinion, and I am beginning to see the other side to this all, but (look below).

[quoteef961d13e3="wood"]my biggest qualm with it is that it draws the entire process out that much longer.

personally, im against it. If you want to auction off your referal, goto a zoo (ie - gearlive.com forums).[/quoteef961d13e3]

I still have my opinion.
[quoteef961d13e3="nate08"]I vote that it stays, people who offer the most deserve it.

It's like saying, eBay isn't fair because I don't have that much money and others do and they get the items because they bid more than me and I think I should get it for my bid.[/quoteef961d13e3]

[quoteedad68f3a6]I propose something like requiring anyone who auctions their referrals to have a Trade Record of at least 5 and have more than 50 posts. In this way, there will be fewer totally new traders coming here just to get paid.
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sounds good. lets go with that.

soo i guess this post wasnt useless vulcan, lol

and that other guy popo, im actually an NYU student, i guess fair market wasnt an accurate term to use, but most people got the point ) great points doyle and wood. im happy that something got worked out

by the way, the negativ karma= totally uncalled for

if anything i deserve positive karma

bastids

The only thing i dont like is when a person says im willing to pay $15 for a referral then someone goes in on their thread and says ill pay $20 i think thats dick. If you wanna pay more create your own thread that person that offered $15 didnt create that thread for you.

[quote2c7f639cf8="Stroid"]The only thing i dont like is when a person says im willing to pay $15 for a referral then someone goes in on their thread and says ill pay $20 i think thats dick. If you wanna pay more create your own thread that person that offered $15 didnt create that thread for you.[/quote2c7f639cf8]

Well... It does say in the rules 'No thread hijacking' or something of that nature. It is pretty stupid when people do that.

yeah but people dont listen sometimes i warn them and they still do it

[quote729e7e1f91="jackknife2ooo"]soo i guess this post wasnt useless vulcan, lol

and that other guy popo, im actually an NYU student, i guess fair market wasnt an accurate term to use, but most people got the point ) great points doyle and wood. im happy that something got worked out[/quote729e7e1f91]


lol

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[quotefb9d7da9d0="Stroid"]The only thing i dont like is when a person says im willing to pay $15 for a referral then someone goes in on their thread and says ill pay $20 i think thats dick. If you wanna pay more create your own thread that person that offered $15 didnt create that thread for you.[/quotefb9d7da9d0]
yeah, i think that's rude

In my opinion, the auctions are cool bc it helps people who don't have the time to find referrals the opportunity to get a couple done quickly.

My only problem is that the people who sign up for them don't always give an accurate timeline of when they will close the auction and actually sign up for the winner. A suggestion would be to limit the amount of time a person has to auction a referral. Once the specified time limit has been reached, that person should be required to sign up for that amount.

Personally, I don't care if someone comes in to make some quick cash. As ougijoe said, as long as they green first, I don't see the harm. I say that now, but if I start getting grays, then my opinion may change. wink

i personally dont like threads dedicated to auctioning but its the way the world works, top bidder gets the job/item...

[quote5a784c1eeb="jackknife2ooo"]soo i guess this post wasnt useless vulcan, lol

and that other guy popo, im actually an NYU student, i guess fair market wasnt an accurate term to use, but most people got the point ) great points doyle and wood. im happy that something got worked out[/quote5a784c1eeb]
LOL my issue wasnt with that it was with your WHOLE statement everything you said goes against the concept of free markets which creates the fair market price also known as the equilibrium price because of the concept of supply and demand (the most basic principal of business, economics and well how our country works) I am not saying that having a set level doesn't work or that you can't set price levels because you can I'm just saying that what you said made no sense...Hope that clarifies my comment for you

[quoteda09ce80cc="vulcan300"][quoteda09ce80cc]I propose something like requiring anyone who auctions their referrals to have a Trade Record of at least 5 and have more than 50 posts. In this way, there will be fewer totally new traders coming here just to get paid.
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sounds good. lets go with that.[/quoteda09ce80cc]

I still say there needs to be a smilie for brushing your shoulder off.

oh yeah by the way I dont like auctioning much myself(its stupid and pointless you know how much your willing to accept and what you want) but I really don't like the idea of restricting trade by setting prices for reffs and I know that this wasn't mentioned but I can see stopping auctions as being the first step down that path...and that would suck