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JayxDirect

28-06-2007 17:57:07

DIABLO

29-06-2007 07:58:53

Don't do this sites! I completed an offer on his old site SpeedyFreebies.com and got 8 referrals. Then my offer reversed because of an accidental mistake I made by not having enough money in my paypal account the next month for billing, I was in contact with the offer company and they said that if I gave them a link or just the affiliate I did it through I could have my credit re-instated. So of course, I ask him what affiliate/link I did it through and he made up some bullshit excuses saying he wasn't allowed, which I know is a complete lie as any other site owner or support person does. Then after I proved him wrong about that he said he didn't have it, which is also bullshit because his script saves the link to every offer completed, all he had to do was go to my account, go down to offers completed, click the link to the offer I did, and copy the link it shows on that page, give it to me, and I'd get credit re-instanted. Instead, he decides to not do that and make up bullshit excuses and steal $400 from me. I lost $200 paying for refs and you just scammed me and made up blatant lies.

He also closed his site with 1 weeks notice on the forums, and absolutley no notice on his site, so if anybody wasn't registered on FiPG or A4F or even just didn't check the threads at the bottom of the "Other Freebie Sites" section they would have lost all of their refs and greens, it just shows you how irresponsible and stupid this site owner really is. The least you could have done was transfer refs and greens to GiftChaos, but you made up more bullshit excuses saying you didn't want the new network to have anything to do with SpeedyFreebies, which was obviously just an excuse to steal the money made with greens and refs on his old site. He completly closed down his site out of nowhere with no notice to tons of his users, sounds like great support...

patrick_7412

29-06-2007 12:44:45

Thanks for the warning DIABLO )

bullseye4u

29-06-2007 17:16:13

I did Gift Chaos site and got paid without any troubles

JayxDirect

29-06-2007 17:55:48

[quote5820e71da3="DIABLO"]Don't do this sites! I completed an offer on his old site SpeedyFreebies.com and got 8 referrals. Then my offer reversed because of an accidental mistake I made by not having enough money in my paypal account the next month for billing, I was in contact with the offer company and they said that if I gave them a link or just the affiliate I did it through I could have my credit re-instated. So of course, I ask him what affiliate/link I did it through and he made up some bullshit excuses saying he wasn't allowed, which I know is a complete lie as any other site owner or support person does. Then after I proved him wrong about that he said he didn't have it, which is also bullshit because his script saves the link to every offer completed, all he had to do was go to my account, go down to offers completed, click the link to the offer I did, and copy the link it shows on that page, give it to me, and I'd get credit re-instanted. Instead, he decides to not do that and make up bullshit excuses and steal $400 from me. I lost $200 paying for refs and you just scammed me and made up blatant lies.

He also closed his site with 1 weeks notice on the forums, and absolutley no notice on his site, so if anybody wasn't registered on FiPG or A4F or even just didn't check the threads at the bottom of the "Other Freebie Sites" section they would have lost all of their refs and greens, it just shows you how irresponsible and stupid this site owner really is. The least you could have done was transfer refs and greens to GiftChaos, but you made up more bullshit excuses saying you didn't want the new network to have anything to do with SpeedyFreebies, which was obviously just an excuse to steal the money made with greens and refs on his old site. He completly closed down his site out of nowhere with no notice to tons of his users, sounds like great support...[/quote5820e71da3]

STOP spreading lies about my sites.
The only honest thing you said above was that YOUR OFFER GOT REVOKED/REVERSED. Yes, REVOKED. That means that my affiliates did NOT pay me for your offer because you somehow FRAUDED. Offer fraud = hold.
You were on hold. Tell my WHY you would receive payment if you frauded an offer and were on hold.

As for the SpeedyFreebies business, I gave 2 weeks, not 1. Also, there WAS a warning on the actual SpeedyFreebies site that explained that the site was shutting down in 2 weeks. And 2 weeks was not a short amount of time considering the small amount of users we had. If you really wanted to complete SpeedyFreebies, 2 weeks should have been enough to obtain the rest of your referrals. And even though it's none of your business, I actually LOST money shipping out orders to users because of the closing.

Please everyone, don't be discouraged by this user's lies. He is obviously a disgruntled user that is just trying to cover up for his offer fraud by blaming the network.
I don't know about FiPG rules on banning, but I know other forums would have banned him by now (for offer fraud)

PS If your information to the left is correct Diablo, and you are indeed 14, that in itself would have been breaking the SpeedyFreebies (and Gift Chaos) Terms of Service (which you agreed too).

JayxDirect

01-07-2007 09:44:20

Also, with our new updates, all the sites have different cash/referral ratio amounts.

They are as follows
iPod Chaos - $50 a referral
Console Chaos - $75 a referral
Game Chaos - $30 a referral
360 Elite Chaos - $100 a referral
Book Chaos - $15 a referral
Camera Chaos - $75 a referral
Xbox Live - $10 a referral

JayxDirect

04-07-2007 09:27:01

Happy 4th of July!

russgardner

04-07-2007 11:51:28

[quotebc22e4a294="JayxDirect"]Also, with our new updates, all the sites have different cash/referral ratio amounts.

They are as follows
iPod Chaos - $50 a referral
Console Chaos - $75 a referral
Game Chaos - $30 a referral
360 Elite Chaos - $100 a referral
Book Chaos - $15 a referral
Camera Chaos - $75 a referral
Xbox Live - $10 a referral[/quotebc22e4a294]

Are you offering any kind of incentives for joining your sites like Offer Requirements Credits...Free Greens?

JayxDirect

05-07-2007 14:32:36

[quote9927cf79cb="russgardner"][quote9927cf79cb="JayxDirect"]Also, with our new updates, all the sites have different cash/referral ratio amounts.

They are as follows
iPod Chaos - $50 a referral
Console Chaos - $75 a referral
Game Chaos - $30 a referral
360 Elite Chaos - $100 a referral
Book Chaos - $15 a referral
Camera Chaos - $75 a referral
Xbox Live - $10 a referral[/quote9927cf79cb]

Are you offering any kind of incentives for joining your sites like Offer Requirements Credits...Free Greens?[/quote9927cf79cb]

Not at the moment, sorry.
We will be having tons of promotions soon though (they will be eligible to current members too, so there is no need to postpone your signup).

DIABLO

06-07-2007 04:55:37

[quote68b0b8fad7="JayxDirect"][quote68b0b8fad7="DIABLO"]Don't do this sites! I completed an offer on his old site SpeedyFreebies.com and got 8 referrals. Then my offer reversed because of an accidental mistake I made by not having enough money in my paypal account the next month for billing, I was in contact with the offer company and they said that if I gave them a link or just the affiliate I did it through I could have my credit re-instated. So of course, I ask him what affiliate/link I did it through and he made up some bullshit excuses saying he wasn't allowed, which I know is a complete lie as any other site owner or support person does. Then after I proved him wrong about that he said he didn't have it, which is also bullshit because his script saves the link to every offer completed, all he had to do was go to my account, go down to offers completed, click the link to the offer I did, and copy the link it shows on that page, give it to me, and I'd get credit re-instanted. Instead, he decides to not do that and make up bullshit excuses and steal $400 from me. I lost $200 paying for refs and you just scammed me and made up blatant lies.

He also closed his site with 1 weeks notice on the forums, and absolutley no notice on his site, so if anybody wasn't registered on FiPG or A4F or even just didn't check the threads at the bottom of the "Other Freebie Sites" section they would have lost all of their refs and greens, it just shows you how irresponsible and stupid this site owner really is. The least you could have done was transfer refs and greens to GiftChaos, but you made up more bullshit excuses saying you didn't want the new network to have anything to do with SpeedyFreebies, which was obviously just an excuse to steal the money made with greens and refs on his old site. He completly closed down his site out of nowhere with no notice to tons of his users, sounds like great support...[/quote68b0b8fad7]

STOP spreading lies about my sites.
The only honest thing you said above was that YOUR OFFER GOT REVOKED/REVERSED. Yes, REVOKED. That means that my affiliates did NOT pay me for your offer because you somehow FRAUDED. Offer fraud = hold.
You were on hold. Tell my WHY you would receive payment if you frauded an offer and were on hold.

As for the SpeedyFreebies business, I gave 2 weeks, not 1. Also, there WAS a warning on the actual SpeedyFreebies site that explained that the site was shutting down in 2 weeks. And 2 weeks was not a short amount of time considering the small amount of users we had. If you really wanted to complete SpeedyFreebies, 2 weeks should have been enough to obtain the rest of your referrals. And even though it's none of your business, I actually LOST money shipping out orders to users because of the closing.

Please everyone, don't be discouraged by this user's lies. He is obviously a disgruntled user that is just trying to cover up for his offer fraud by blaming the network.
I don't know about FiPG rules on banning, but I know other forums would have banned him by now (for offer fraud)

PS If your information to the left is correct Diablo, and you are indeed 14, that in itself would have been breaking the SpeedyFreebies (and Gift Chaos) Terms of Service (which you agreed too).[/quote68b0b8fad7]

It was revoked because I didn't have enough in my paypal account, if it was revoked and there was no chance of me getting credit it would be a totally different story. The thing was that I was able to get credit if you just told me what advertiser you went through, but instead you made up bullshit lies and said you weren't allowed to give it to me and all of that bull.

Where was the warning? I never saw it and didn't even see the thread on FiPG until 4 days before closing, and I doubt many others even saw it at all.

Other forums? A4F? Well A4F is stupid and will eventually ban everybody. I doubt even A4F would have banned me for it because it wasn't offer fraud, it was an honest mistake and was fixable but instead of helping me out you decided to take my money. You say you lost money, so? You still lost $400 less because you scammed me. Stop trying to make it look like your a victim of a random person trying to get money from you, I could have easily been credited if he wanted to help me with his "amazing support", but he decided to take my money instead. End of story.

BEWARE![/size68b0b8fad7]

JayxDirect

06-07-2007 17:13:58

[quote637875a434="DIABLO"]
It was revoked because I didn't have enough in my paypal account, if it was revoked and there was no chance of me getting credit it would be a totally different story. The thing was that I was able to get credit if you just told me what advertiser you went through, but instead you made up bullshit lies and said you weren't allowed to give it to me and all of that bull.

Where was the warning? I never saw it and didn't even see the thread on FiPG until 4 days before closing, and I doubt many others even saw it at all.

Other forums? A4F? Well A4F is stupid and will eventually ban everybody. I doubt even A4F would have banned me for it because it wasn't offer fraud, it was an honest mistake and was fixable but instead of helping me out you decided to take my money. You say you lost money, so? You still lost $400 less because you scammed me. Stop trying to make it look like your a victim of a random person trying to get money from you, I could have easily been credited if he wanted to help me with his "amazing support", but he decided to take my money instead. End of story.

BEWARE![/size637875a434][/quote637875a434]

Beware of what? Your lies?

Not having enough money to pay for an offer IS in fact fraud. That is just like signing up for an offer that costs $10, with a gift card with $0.10 on it. That is offer fraud.

You frauded, lost me money, AND made me look bad in front of my advertisers. Remind me again why I would help someone who broke the terms of service get paid money?

Also, obviously there is no way to prove that there was a warning sign on the site, but I never lie to my users, and I don't plan on starting now. I wouldn't even lie to you.

Now stop polluting my thread just because you are angry at ME because of YOUR mistake. Maybe you should have checked your paypal before completing an offer. Or maybe you are just so used to doing a mass amount of offers with a few cents in your paypal account, and didn't think you'd get caught this time?

Good day sir.

DIABLO

06-07-2007 19:24:37

[quote986e1cbf20="JayxDirect"][quote986e1cbf20="DIABLO"]
It was revoked because I didn't have enough in my paypal account, if it was revoked and there was no chance of me getting credit it would be a totally different story. The thing was that I was able to get credit if you just told me what advertiser you went through, but instead you made up bullshit lies and said you weren't allowed to give it to me and all of that bull.

Where was the warning? I never saw it and didn't even see the thread on FiPG until 4 days before closing, and I doubt many others even saw it at all.

Other forums? A4F? Well A4F is stupid and will eventually ban everybody. I doubt even A4F would have banned me for it because it wasn't offer fraud, it was an honest mistake and was fixable but instead of helping me out you decided to take my money. You say you lost money, so? You still lost $400 less because you scammed me. Stop trying to make it look like your a victim of a random person trying to get money from you, I could have easily been credited if he wanted to help me with his "amazing support", but he decided to take my money instead. End of story.

BEWARE![/size986e1cbf20][/quote986e1cbf20]

Beware of what? Your lies?

Not having enough money to pay for an offer IS in fact fraud. That is just like signing up for an offer that costs $10, with a gift card with $0.10 on it. That is offer fraud.

You frauded, lost me money, AND made me look bad in front of my advertisers. Remind me again why I would help someone who broke the terms of service get paid money?

Also, obviously there is no way to prove that there was a warning sign on the site, but I never lie to my users, and I don't plan on starting now. I wouldn't even lie to you.

Now stop polluting my thread just because you are angry at ME because of YOUR mistake. Maybe you should have checked your paypal before completing an offer. Or maybe you are just so used to doing a mass amount of offers with a few cents in your paypal account, and didn't think you'd get caught this time?

Good day sir.[/quote986e1cbf20]

Actually I got a random charge of $50 about an hour before HostGator tried to charge me. And yeah, it would be offer fraud if I did that, but they were willing to give me credit if you just gave me some simple info, but you chose not to do that and keep my money I earned. Stop avoiding the fact that you could have solved it easily but decided to keep my money instead, last time I checked good support didn't hold back information that you are freely allowed to give out if it would give me credit back, instead you took my money.

Also stop trying to make it look like I'm some huge offer frauder, it was an accident that could have been solved but you decided not to so you could make some cash off of me. That was the first offer I had done in a month or so and I didn't do another one for months after that, stop making up random crap that isn't true which means it has no supporting facts, I'm sure 1/4 or even 1/2 of the people here don't read everything posted slowly and carefully and they probably think that you have some evidence of that, which I'm sure you knew too when you posted more of your bull.

Made you look bad in front of your advertisers? Oh come on, more bullshit? I doubt HostGator even knows, and you probably have tons of your offers reverse, affiliates don't even care if an offer or two reverses, it's just if you have tons of them reverse month after month.

I'm not saying I didn't make a mistake, I did, but there was an easy solution, but instead of giving me simple information you took my money, stop ignoring that fact.

jdizzle314

07-07-2007 02:18:40

I am convinced...the layout was nice...but based on his story i cant do this site = (

DIABLO

07-07-2007 07:40:53

[quote96c00ebf46="jdizzle314"]I am convinced...the layout was nice...but based on his story i cant do this site = ([/quote96c00ebf46]

Good choice.

And GC no, I'm not really banned.

JayxDirect

08-07-2007 11:38:10

[quote3b984d7f01="jdizzle314"]I am convinced...the layout was nice...but based on his story i cant do this site = ([/quote3b984d7f01]

If you still think that he is right, and that the Gift Chaos Network is lying to you, then sorry, but that's your loss.

EDIT Even though he's not banned, he definately deserves to be. I don't see why he isn't after he offer frauded.

TryinToGetPaid

08-07-2007 11:46:46

He is not banned, he paid to have that as his custom title.

JayxDirect

08-07-2007 12:00:29

[quotef5c94b309f="DIABLO"]Actually I got a random charge of $50 about an hour before HostGator tried to charge me. And yeah, it would be offer fraud if I did that, but they were willing to give me credit if you just gave me some simple info, but you chose not to do that and keep my money I earned. Stop avoiding the fact that you could have solved it easily but decided to keep my money instead, last time I checked good support didn't hold back information that you are freely allowed to give out if it would give me credit back, instead you took my money.

Also stop trying to make it look like I'm some huge offer frauder, it was an accident that could have been solved but you decided not to so you could make some cash off of me. That was the first offer I had done in a month or so and I didn't do another one for months after that, stop making up random crap that isn't true which means it has no supporting facts, I'm sure 1/4 or even 1/2 of the people here don't read everything posted slowly and carefully and they probably think that you have some evidence of that, which I'm sure you knew too when you posted more of your bull.

Made you look bad in front of your advertisers? Oh come on, more bullshit? I doubt HostGator even knows, and you probably have tons of your offers reverse, affiliates don't even care if an offer or two reverses, it's just if you have tons of them reverse month after month.

I'm not saying I didn't make a mistake, I did, but there was an easy solution, but instead of giving me simple information you took my money, stop ignoring that fact.[/quotef5c94b309f]

Do you not understand that I didn't make any money off of your offer because it got REVOKED?
And yes, it did make me look bad in front of my affiliates...meaning the people I run the offers through. Not sure if you know, but it's not a good thing to be bringing in a bunch of offers that get revoked.

Frankly, I don't care if you hadn't done an offer in months...that gives you NO right to fraud an offer. If that was your "mistake" or "accident" that you didn't check your PayPal account balance before completing the offer, that's your problem, and you need to face the consequences.

DIABLO

08-07-2007 20:31:13

Do you even read what you're responding to? I clearly stated I wasn't banned.

Well you didn't make money off of my offer, but you made $400+ off of my 10+ referrals that were all green and perfectly fine. You're affiliates really don't give a shit if you get a few offers reversed, do you think Trainn, YGF, and all the other big networks have no reversals? They probably have a much higher percentage of reversals than you do.

You just tried to say that I was doing tons of offers with no money, after I tell you you're wrong you don't care? I DIDN'T FRAUD AN OFFER! ARE YOU STUPID OR JUST IGNORING IT? THEY SAID CREDIT WOULD BE RE-INSTATED IF YOU GAVE ME THE LINK THAT I DID THE OFFER THROUGH, WHICH YOU DEFINATLEY HAVE BUT YOU DECIDED TO TAKE THE MONEY MY REFS EARNED AND MAKE BULLSHIT EXCUSES THAT YOU WEREN'T ALLOWED TO GIVE IT TO ME! YOU STILL MADE MORE THAN $400 OFF OF MY PERFECTLY GOOD REFS, AND STOP TRYING TO MAKE IT LOOK LIKE I'M A FRAUDER! I DID HAVE ENOUGH IN MY PAYPAL WHEN I SIGNED UP, BUT WHEN THEY TRIED TO CHARGE ME FOR THE 2ND MONTH I GOT SOME RANDOM CHARGE FROM SOMEBODY I'D NEVER HEARD OF BEFORE AN HOUR BEFORE HOSTGATOR TRIED TO CHARGE ME! IF THEY WEREN'T OFFERING TO RE-INSTATE CREDIT I'D BE FINE WITH IT AND TAKE IT AS MY LOSS BECAUSE OF MY MISTAKE,[/sizec2eb011e2a] [bc2eb011e2a]BUT THEY WERE WILLING TO RE-INSTATE IT WITH SIMPLE INFO FROM YOU BUT YOU WOULDN'T GIVE IT TO ME FOR BULLSHIT REASONS![/sizec2eb011e2a][/bc2eb011e2a]

TryinToGetPaid

09-07-2007 05:20:56

"They probably have a much higher percentage of reversals than you do."

I doubt that.

DIABLO

09-07-2007 07:23:44

[quote70b7153260="TryinToGetPaid"]"They probably have a much higher percentage of reversals than you do."

I doubt that.[/quote70b7153260]

Why do you say that? Most frauders will go to sites that pay the most cash fastest. He pays every month I belive, at least he used to, YGF pays instantly and trainn in 1 1/2-2 weeks, so he probably gets tons of frauders and loses cash from reversals.

TryinToGetPaid

09-07-2007 07:42:38

But does his site take the time to call all referrals when an order is placed?

Does he have plans to add telephone verification upon sign up?
If he is using FSR, he will not be able to.

ZPT pays out instantly - several times a day, and our reversals rate are low, and should have been lower but when an entire offer is revoked across an entire affiliate, not much you can do.

doylnea

09-07-2007 08:26:22

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=46147

TryinToGetPaid

09-07-2007 08:29:42

[quote88678f59fc="JayxDirect"]
As for the SpeedyFreebies business, I gave 2 weeks, not 1. Also, there WAS a warning on the actual SpeedyFreebies site that explained that the site was shutting down in 2 weeks.[/quote88678f59fc]

Posted [b88678f59fc]Fri Sep 22, 2006 726 pm[/b88678f59fc]
Post subject Exclaim SpeedyFreebies is closing!

[quote88678f59fc="JayxDirect"]SpeedyFreebies will stop accepting orders/close on [b88678f59fc]October 1st.[/b88678f59fc][/quote88678f59fc]

Now according to the rhyme I learned in first grade, THIRTY days has SEPTEMBER.
So if you posted on the 22nd, closed on the first -- that is 8 days prior. I am not taking sides, but you obviously lied.

DIABLO

09-07-2007 12:12:53

[quoteace55fc179="TryinToGetPaid"]But does his site take the time to call all referrals when an order is placed?

Does he have plans to add telephone verification upon sign up?
If he is using FSR, he will not be able to.

ZPT pays out instantly - several times a day, and our reversals rate are low, and should have been lower but when an entire offer is revoked across an entire affiliate, not much you can do.[/quoteace55fc179]

Okay, you know more than me about that, so I'm not going to argue.

But yeah, 8 days is definatley not enough, I know I go 8 days without checking the other sites section a lot, I've gone weeks checking here, and if there was anything on your site it wasn't noticeable at all.

JayxDirect

09-07-2007 13:15:11

[quote2e23b0eb54="TryinToGetPaid"][quote2e23b0eb54="JayxDirect"]
As for the SpeedyFreebies business, I gave 2 weeks, not 1. Also, there WAS a warning [b2e23b0eb54]on the actual SpeedyFreebies site that explained that the site was shutting down in 2 weeks[/b2e23b0eb54].[/quote2e23b0eb54]

Posted [b2e23b0eb54]Fri Sep 22, 2006 726 pm[/b2e23b0eb54]
Post subject Exclaim SpeedyFreebies is closing!

[quote2e23b0eb54="JayxDirect"]SpeedyFreebies will stop accepting orders/close on [b2e23b0eb54]October 1st.[/b2e23b0eb54][/quote2e23b0eb54]

Now according to the rhyme I learned in first grade, THIRTY days has SEPTEMBER.
So if you posted on the 22nd, closed on the first -- that is 8 days prior. I am not taking sides, but you obviously lied.[/quote2e23b0eb54]

I didn't lie.
On the actual site there was a warning within 2 weeks of closing.
Just because I didn't post it on FiPG doesn't mean it wasn't posted on the site. Sorry, my site doesn't revolve around FiPG.

DIABLO

09-07-2007 13:39:35

[quotefa00f6660e="JayxDirect"][quotefa00f6660e="TryinToGetPaid"][quotefa00f6660e="JayxDirect"]
As for the SpeedyFreebies business, I gave 2 weeks, not 1. Also, there WAS a warning [bfa00f6660e]on the actual SpeedyFreebies site that explained that the site was shutting down in 2 weeks[/bfa00f6660e].[/quotefa00f6660e]

Posted [bfa00f6660e]Fri Sep 22, 2006 726 pm[/bfa00f6660e]
Post subject Exclaim SpeedyFreebies is closing!

[quotefa00f6660e="JayxDirect"]SpeedyFreebies will stop accepting orders/close on [bfa00f6660e]October 1st.[/bfa00f6660e][/quotefa00f6660e]

Now according to the rhyme I learned in first grade, THIRTY days has SEPTEMBER.
So if you posted on the 22nd, closed on the first -- that is 8 days prior. I am not taking sides, but you obviously lied.[/quotefa00f6660e]

I didn't lie.
On the actual site there was a warning within 2 weeks of closing.
Just because I didn't post it on FiPG doesn't mean it wasn't posted on the site. Sorry, my site doesn't revolve around FiPG.[/quotefa00f6660e]

There was no noticeable warning on your site, and your site should revolve around it because I'm sure 99% of your users are from FiPG and/or A4F, I doubt that many people that don't know about freebies would go to your site, they all go to DIYs and freegay because they have ads all over the place, I doubt you've ever had an advertisment up on any site besides your threads on FiPG and A4F. I didn't learn that the site was closing until 4 days before you closed, and I wouldn't have even saw it at all if you hadn't told me on AIM after I said I might keep getting refs for another month. Even if you think it's my fault and my mistake, which it was, but it was an easily fixable mistake, you can still see he is an extremely irresponsible person, which is not the kind of person you want to being running the freebie site you're completing.

JayxDirect

09-07-2007 14:00:13

I think it is a bit ironic how YOU are the one calling me irresponsible.

And I don't know what you're thinking, but it was not as "easily fixable" as you think.

DIABLO

09-07-2007 17:17:41

[quotea424968b89="JayxDirect"]I think it is a bit ironic how YOU are the one calling me irresponsible.

And I don't know what you're thinking, but it was not as "easily fixable" as you think.[/quotea424968b89]

Yes it was, I paid hostgator and they said just give them the link that I signed up with so they knew who to instate credit to, and they would have. I was speaking directly with the head of their incentivized marketing section, so he obviously knew what he was talking about. But you decided not to give me the info so you could take the $400+ my refs made.

JayxDirect

09-07-2007 18:35:51

[quote59a41ca2e1="DIABLO"][quote59a41ca2e1="JayxDirect"]I think it is a bit ironic how YOU are the one calling me irresponsible.

And I don't know what you're thinking, but it was not as "easily fixable" as you think.[/quote59a41ca2e1]

Yes it was, I paid hostgator and they said just give them the link that I signed up with so they knew who to instate credit to, and they would have. I was speaking directly with the head of their incentivized marketing section, so he obviously knew what he was talking about. But you decided not to give me the info so you could take the $400+ my refs made.[/quote59a41ca2e1]

Now you ignorantly claim that I made more than $400 off of you and your referrals eh? Let's not forget the fact that they were all referred by you (meaning I didn't make any money there), not all of them were valid (some were placed on hold shortly after you were), and that a bunch of them placed orders.

So please, don't talk about what you don't know - and again, even though it is none of your business on the amount of money I make, I didn't make much from business with you.

DIABLO

09-07-2007 19:55:23

[quotec8b1ce40d1="JayxDirect"][quotec8b1ce40d1="DIABLO"][quotec8b1ce40d1="JayxDirect"]I think it is a bit ironic how YOU are the one calling me irresponsible.

And I don't know what you're thinking, but it was not as "easily fixable" as you think.[/quotec8b1ce40d1]

Yes it was, I paid hostgator and they said just give them the link that I signed up with so they knew who to instate credit to, and they would have. I was speaking directly with the head of their incentivized marketing section, so he obviously knew what he was talking about. But you decided not to give me the info so you could take the $400+ my refs made.[/quotec8b1ce40d1]

Now you ignorantly claim that I made more than $400 off of you and your referrals eh? Let's not forget the fact that they were all referred by you (meaning I didn't make any money there), not all of them were valid (some were placed on hold shortly after you were), and that a bunch of them placed orders.

So please, don't talk about what you don't know - and again, even though it is none of your business on the amount of money I make, I didn't make much from business with you.[/quotec8b1ce40d1]

Every referral I got was a legit member of A4F or FiPG, nobody with less than 15 TR joined. Tell me who was placed on hold, what do you mean because they were all reffered by me you didn't make money? You still get money if they greened, which should have been paid to me but wasn't. So what if a bunch placed orders? That's what they're supposed to do, you don't lose any money because you aren't paying them from what they earned if they order, that comes from their refs, not them. I still had 10 refs, I doubt all of them were on hold, even if 5 were placed on hold you still made $200 because you didn't pay me. Everybody knows I'm right, so just quit the bullshit and pay me what I deserve. I'll be posting this in the scammer section soon also, by the way.

JayxDirect

10-07-2007 19:29:12

[quotea97b5baf7f="DIABLO"]
Every referral I got was a legit member of A4F or FiPG, nobody with less than 15 TR joined. Tell me who was placed on hold, what do you mean because they were all reffered by me you didn't make money? You still get money if they greened, which should have been paid to me but wasn't. So what if a bunch placed orders? That's what they're supposed to do, you don't lose any money because you aren't paying them from what they earned if they order, that comes from their refs, not them. I still had 10 refs, I doubt all of them were on hold, even if 5 were placed on hold you still made $200 because you didn't pay me. Everybody knows I'm right, so just quit the bullshit and pay me what I deserve. I'll be posting this in the scammer section soon also, by the way.[/quotea97b5baf7f]

Okay, apparently you have no idea how I make money off my sites. You're obviously set on thinking that you're the only person who's right and that everyone who thinks your wrong is wrong. I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain to you if you're just going to shove it back down my throat.

Also, your little threats are definately not going to get you any money from me. You go post in the scammer section, and since "everyone knows" you're right they might listen to you. But I must say, I do feel sorry for anyone who listens to a mindless user like you.

I've had enough of this time-wasting bickering with you. I will not respond to anymore of your posts.

You did my site half a year ago, you frauded your offer and got placed on hold for it. You will not be coming off hold by trying to threaten my network, and you will not be receiving a cent from Gift Chaos.
[ba97b5baf7f]End of story, good day sir. [/ba97b5baf7f]

DIABLO

10-07-2007 20:06:21

[quotee72bfacf6f="JayxDirect"][quotee72bfacf6f="DIABLO"]
Every referral I got was a legit member of A4F or FiPG, nobody with less than 15 TR joined. Tell me who was placed on hold, what do you mean because they were all reffered by me you didn't make money? You still get money if they greened, which should have been paid to me but wasn't. So what if a bunch placed orders? That's what they're supposed to do, you don't lose any money because you aren't paying them from what they earned if they order, that comes from their refs, not them. I still had 10 refs, I doubt all of them were on hold, even if 5 were placed on hold you still made $200 because you didn't pay me. Everybody knows I'm right, so just quit the bullshit and pay me what I deserve. I'll be posting this in the scammer section soon also, by the way.[/quotee72bfacf6f]

Okay, apparently you have no idea how I make money off my sites. You're obviously set on thinking that you're the only person who's right and that everyone who thinks your wrong is wrong. I'm not going to waste my time trying to explain to you if you're just going to shove it back down my throat.

Also, your little threats are definately not going to get you any money from me. You go post in the scammer section, and since "everyone knows" you're right they might listen to you. But I must say, I do feel sorry for anyone who listens to a mindless user like you.

I've had enough of this time-wasting bickering with you. I will not respond to anymore of your posts.

You did my site half a year ago, you frauded your offer and got placed on hold for it. You will not be coming off hold by trying to threaten my network, and you will not be receiving a cent from Gift Chaos.
[be72bfacf6f]End of story, good day sir. [/be72bfacf6f][/quotee72bfacf6f]

You're still ignoring the fact that it could have been easily fixed? Do what you want, I don't even want my money that bad, I just want to make users aware of your scams.

Good day sir? What the hell? roll

kidd2108

10-07-2007 22:01:11

[quotec4bef6946a="JayxDirect"][quotec4bef6946a="TryinToGetPaid"][quotec4bef6946a="JayxDirect"]
As for the SpeedyFreebies business, I gave 2 weeks, not 1. Also, there WAS a warning [bc4bef6946a]on the actual SpeedyFreebies site that explained that the site was shutting down in 2 weeks[/bc4bef6946a].[/quotec4bef6946a]

Posted [bc4bef6946a]Fri Sep 22, 2006 726 pm[/bc4bef6946a]
Post subject Exclaim SpeedyFreebies is closing!

[quotec4bef6946a="JayxDirect"]SpeedyFreebies will stop accepting orders/close on [bc4bef6946a]October 1st.[/bc4bef6946a][/quotec4bef6946a]

Now according to the rhyme I learned in first grade, THIRTY days has SEPTEMBER.
So if you posted on the 22nd, closed on the first -- that is 8 days prior. I am not taking sides, but you obviously lied.[/quotec4bef6946a]

I didn't lie.
On the actual site there was a warning within 2 weeks of closing.
Just because I didn't post it on FiPG doesn't mean it wasn't posted on the site. Sorry, my site doesn't revolve around FiPG.[/quotec4bef6946a]

Yet, you managed to post it on A4F a week earlier. So...your site revolves around A4f? twisted

DIABLO

11-07-2007 07:49:44

[quote11a9547aba="kidd2108"][quote11a9547aba="JayxDirect"][quote11a9547aba="TryinToGetPaid"][quote11a9547aba="JayxDirect"]
As for the SpeedyFreebies business, I gave 2 weeks, not 1. Also, there WAS a warning [b11a9547aba]on the actual SpeedyFreebies site that explained that the site was shutting down in 2 weeks[/b11a9547aba].[/quote11a9547aba]

Posted [b11a9547aba]Fri Sep 22, 2006 726 pm[/b11a9547aba]
Post subject Exclaim SpeedyFreebies is closing!

[quote11a9547aba="JayxDirect"]SpeedyFreebies will stop accepting orders/close on [b11a9547aba]October 1st.[/b11a9547aba][/quote11a9547aba]

Now according to the rhyme I learned in first grade, THIRTY days has SEPTEMBER.
So if you posted on the 22nd, closed on the first -- that is 8 days prior. I am not taking sides, but you obviously lied.[/quote11a9547aba]

I didn't lie.
On the actual site there was a warning within 2 weeks of closing.
Just because I didn't post it on FiPG doesn't mean it wasn't posted on the site. Sorry, my site doesn't revolve around FiPG.[/quote11a9547aba]

Yet, you managed to post it on A4F a week earlier. So...your site revolves around A4f? twisted[/quote11a9547aba]

He's one of those A4F idiots, everybody from A4F is so annoying...

And Jay, why would you assume I think everybody is wrong if they say I'm wrong? You're the only one here that's saying I'm wrong, everybody else is agreeing with me...

babetran

11-07-2007 20:27:33

[quote3f4eff2daa="DIABLO"][quote3f4eff2daa="kidd2108"][quote3f4eff2daa="JayxDirect"][quote3f4eff2daa="TryinToGetPaid"][quote3f4eff2daa="JayxDirect"]
As for the SpeedyFreebies business, I gave 2 weeks, not 1. Also, there WAS a warning [b3f4eff2daa]on the actual SpeedyFreebies site that explained that the site was shutting down in 2 weeks[/b3f4eff2daa].[/quote3f4eff2daa]

Posted [b3f4eff2daa]Fri Sep 22, 2006 726 pm[/b3f4eff2daa]
Post subject Exclaim SpeedyFreebies is closing!

[quote3f4eff2daa="JayxDirect"]SpeedyFreebies will stop accepting orders/close on [b3f4eff2daa]October 1st.[/b3f4eff2daa][/quote3f4eff2daa]

Now according to the rhyme I learned in first grade, THIRTY days has SEPTEMBER.
So if you posted on the 22nd, closed on the first -- that is 8 days prior. I am not taking sides, but you obviously lied.[/quote3f4eff2daa]

I didn't lie.
On the actual site there was a warning within 2 weeks of closing.
Just because I didn't post it on FiPG doesn't mean it wasn't posted on the site. Sorry, my site doesn't revolve around FiPG.[/quote3f4eff2daa]

Yet, you managed to post it on A4F a week earlier. So...your site revolves around A4f? twisted[/quote3f4eff2daa]

He's one of those A4F idiots, everybody from A4F is so annoying...

And Jay, why would you assume I think everybody is wrong if they say I'm wrong? You're the only one here that's saying I'm wrong, everybody else is agreeing with me...[/quote3f4eff2daa]

What make u think ppl from A4F is idiots? What did they do to annoy you? evil

DIABLO

17-07-2007 15:44:40

[quoted7ae16cb52="babetran"][quoted7ae16cb52="DIABLO"][quoted7ae16cb52="kidd2108"][quoted7ae16cb52="JayxDirect"][quoted7ae16cb52="TryinToGetPaid"][quoted7ae16cb52="JayxDirect"]
As for the SpeedyFreebies business, I gave 2 weeks, not 1. Also, there WAS a warning [bd7ae16cb52]on the actual SpeedyFreebies site that explained that the site was shutting down in 2 weeks[/bd7ae16cb52].[/quoted7ae16cb52]

Posted [bd7ae16cb52]Fri Sep 22, 2006 726 pm[/bd7ae16cb52]
Post subject Exclaim SpeedyFreebies is closing!

[quoted7ae16cb52="JayxDirect"]SpeedyFreebies will stop accepting orders/close on [bd7ae16cb52]October 1st.[/bd7ae16cb52][/quoted7ae16cb52]

Now according to the rhyme I learned in first grade, THIRTY days has SEPTEMBER.
So if you posted on the 22nd, closed on the first -- that is 8 days prior. I am not taking sides, but you obviously lied.[/quoted7ae16cb52]

I didn't lie.
On the actual site there was a warning within 2 weeks of closing.
Just because I didn't post it on FiPG doesn't mean it wasn't posted on the site. Sorry, my site doesn't revolve around FiPG.[/quoted7ae16cb52]

Yet, you managed to post it on A4F a week earlier. So...your site revolves around A4f? twisted[/quoted7ae16cb52]

He's one of those A4F idiots, everybody from A4F is so annoying...

And Jay, why would you assume I think everybody is wrong if they say I'm wrong? You're the only one here that's saying I'm wrong, everybody else is agreeing with me...[/quoted7ae16cb52]

What make u think ppl from A4F is idiots? What did they do to annoy you? evil[/quoted7ae16cb52]

They banned me for doing 3 diferent tickle offers in one day, I even asked the admin of the site I was doing them on if it was alright, she said it was fine, I do them and none reverse or anything, I post it on A4F and they ban me, I showed the AIM logs where she said it was ok to do it and they still didn't unban me. I didn't mean actually everybody that is registered on A4F, but everybody there is so sensitive. They also have their group of regulars and site owners that can get away with anything, take CustomOrderThis is an example, he blatantly scammed GMARIO500 and Gmario and I proved that he lied, and instead of A4F banning COT for scamming like any normal person would do, they keep Gmario banned. He was originally banned because he complained that COT scammed him, which he did, but COT is a trusted member of A4F, it can't be exposed that he scams, so they banned the victim instead.

TryinToGetPaid

17-07-2007 17:55:32

Gmario isn't banned at A4F.

gmario

17-07-2007 19:25:21

[quotefe4048b2d8="TryinToGetPaid"]Gmario isn't banned at A4F.[/quotefe4048b2d8]

Actually yea i got banned from there because I knew I did nothing wrong and Customorderthis treated my like crap over aim. Then I went to A4F and posted on his forum and everyone pretty much laughed at me. But I'm sure no one was laughing when I got paid the $599 that was owed hehe an made Customorderthis get me unbanned from A4F. 8)

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=57068

babetran

17-07-2007 20:58:17

Wow... there lots of thing i didn't know bout forums and freebie sites. Now I know not to complete that site or get involve with 'em. =)

gmario

17-07-2007 22:41:44

[quotecec8407a62="babetran"]Wow... there lots of thing i didn't know bout forums and freebie sites. Now I know not to complete that site or get involve with 'em. =)[/quotecec8407a62]

Yep I was amazed 8) A4F is still pretty cool tho.

superstorm93

26-07-2007 01:06:17

[quote3c506c89f6="JayxDirect"]Now you ignorantly claim that I made more than $400 off of you and your referrals eh? Let's not forget the fact that they were all referred by you (meaning I didn't make any money there), not all of them were valid (some were placed on hold shortly after you were), and that a bunch of them placed orders.

So please, don't talk about what you don't know - and again, even though it is none of your business on the amount of money I make, I didn't make much from business with you.[/quote3c506c89f6]

ok, so lets get to the bottom of this, cause now i'm real curious. lets do a little ref-math i call it...
400$ at 40/ref =10 refs.. (i'm guessing )
so, lets just guess that each person did 1/3 or 1/2 credits or even full credit offers. (and they pay the site the most, so lets average that out to be about 24$ per offer done by a ref)
so you have 10 people doing at least 2 offers at 24$ a shot, so 50$ per person)
10refs @50per ref = 500$, his pay out would have been 400, you would have pocketed 100 from him alone.. then you said some went on hold.. so if two go on hold, you broke even with him... but some of his people got refs for you too, so you made your money back there.... now exactly how did you not make money, even IF you did pay him???

and i'm still curious why you haven't paid him, cause to me THAT is fraud, if there was an issue that was resolved and YOU don't pay him like you're supposed to, how is that not fraud?

well, if nothing else, you get the "atta' boy award" cause you hosed a user BIGTIME and you're still allowed to post.