problems with reward orders

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chrome89k

14-02-2007 12:04:50

I have recently done the customorderthis freebie site network. I have had a series of 13 people sign up for the site, at least 10 of which have reported to have done offers for the site. finally on the 14th referral i got my last green for the 200 dollar paypal prize (5 referrals)

After requesting my prize, the owner of the site then accused me of fraud.

saying, i canceled my trial for advantage language... After explaining that I had canceled after seeing the product and gaining knowledge of a cheaper more effective studying aid for spanish (i am taking spanish as my elective my 12th grade class).

CustomOrderThis

14-02-2007 12:29:24

You also frauded True.com on Free4me, I explained that to you.

CollidgeGraduit

14-02-2007 12:30:53

Keep this in the appropriate forum, please.

CustomOrderThis

14-02-2007 15:23:45

I have my own forum CG.

Daggoth

14-02-2007 15:55:17

[quotea8585ebb53="CustomOrderThis"]You also frauded True.com on Free4me, I explained that to you.[/quotea8585ebb53]

Frauding on another site should be irrelevant, unless you are a part of the Free4Me network. No where in your TOS says that you can be put on hold for frauding on Free4Me.

chrome89k

14-02-2007 16:00:07

exactly... ... i just checked... frauding on another network is irrelevant to the case on your network.... you are just looking for a reason to take away my money...

thanks daggoth

after reading the terms of service for customorderthis.com i do not see that frauding on another network is valid reason to deny rewards on other networks...

back when i "supposedly" frauded... which has a whole different story alltogether... i was new to the system... so because of that error, i am unable to complete ANY other networks despite the fact of learning through trial and error?so customorderthis is basically trying to tell me that my freebie career is over.

pspparty

14-02-2007 16:23:04

I gotta agree, its not in the TOS that fraud from a different site constitutes fraud on your site. To me that is totally irrelevant. Mistakes do happen and if it didnt happen on your network then it seems to me to be irrelevant.

And canceling an offer is not fraud the last time i checked..... we all have done it, just if you do it instantly you will not get credit for the offer is all i have ever heard.

BUT i also think labeling customorderthis a scam isnt proper either as im sure they have many satisfied users and one incident doesnot constitute a scam.

riceisgood

14-02-2007 16:24:10

on the terms of service, fraud on different networks has absolutely nothing to do with other networks

CustomOrderThis

14-02-2007 16:28:21

Thanks for 4 posts in the row of the exact same thing.
Also, do you see this little clause?
V. Other Information

1. CustomOrderThis.com is allowed to place any account on hold for any reason.

pspparty

14-02-2007 16:37:04

[quote4fd2a2315b="CustomOrderThis"]Thanks for 4 posts in the row of the exact same thing.
Also, do you see this little clause?
V. Other Information

1. CustomOrderThis.com is allowed to place any account on hold for any reason.[/quote4fd2a2315b]

Understood, but hiding behind that blanket statement isnt good business ( i would think) and without just reasoning, you risk losing business and customer loyalty. I know im no mediator and its not my place to say but the only reasoning you have provided is his "old" offer fraud on free4me. ( not that you have to explain your actions to everyone but since it is being discussed in an open forum... )Which im sure has no bearing on the profitability of your network and by his tr and posts he has since moved past that learning phase.

zr2152

14-02-2007 16:37:17

[quotecf48358ca8="CustomOrderThis"]Thanks for 4 posts in the row of the exact same thing.
Also, do you see this little clause?
V. Other Information

1. CustomOrderThis.com is allowed to place any account on hold for any reason.[/quotecf48358ca8]

EVERY freebie site has that clause. Im not taking sides here but I do not think that other sites should matter at all...like all the other posts before.

It shouldnt work that way and I feel that you as a site owner shoudl know that.

But then again it is your site so im not going to tell you how to run it. If there is reasonable cause that he frauded on YOUR site then go ahead and HOLD away, but if not then I would rethink the HOLD.

CustomOrderThis

14-02-2007 16:41:42

I feel that you are all correct, so I am taking him off of hold, and I have added this to my TOS so this does not happen again. )

Daggoth

14-02-2007 17:10:53

[quote7ec434cb9d="CustomOrderThis"]Thanks for 4 posts in the row of the exact same thing.
Also, do you see this little clause?
V. Other Information

1. CustomOrderThis.com is allowed to place any account on hold for any reason.[/quote7ec434cb9d]

That wouldn't hold up in court.

evodriverdo

14-02-2007 17:18:36

I was on hold for Points.CustomOrderThis because they claimed that I offer frauded on the YourGiftsFree network. I thought that was obsurd since it's a whole different network but I didn't do anything about it and when I spoke with them they were quite rude about it and then blocked me. Should I be taken off hold now too then since they changed the TOS?

johnjimjones

14-02-2007 17:19:23

[quote219f27b1c2="Daggoth"][quote219f27b1c2="CustomOrderThis"]Thanks for 4 posts in the row of the exact same thing.
Also, do you see this little clause?
V. Other Information

1. CustomOrderThis.com is allowed to place any account on hold for any reason.[/quote219f27b1c2]

That wouldn't hold up in court.[/quote219f27b1c2]

I'd like to bring in the resident legal analyst Doylnea to comment on that. lol

chrome89k

14-02-2007 17:25:06

[quoted4f5578e33="CustomOrderThis"]I feel that you are all correct, so I am taking him off of hold, and I have added this to my TOS so this does not happen again. )[/quoted4f5578e33]

thanks for taking me off hold...


THANKS EVERYONE TO HELPING OUT MY CAUSE... APPRECIATE ALL YOUR INFORMATION ON THIS CASE...

this means alot ot me...

thans again

UniPrize Media

14-02-2007 17:33:07

[quoteb0308b4f5c="CustomOrderThis"]I feel that you are all correct, so I am taking him off of hold, and I have added this to my TOS so this does not happen again. )[/quoteb0308b4f5c]

Good move! Clearly stating to users about this kind of guerrilla tactics is a good way to go about it.

CustomOrderThis

14-02-2007 17:58:27

No Evo, you did offers on his network that you also did on my network, which is including my network.

evodriverdo

14-02-2007 18:00:01

[quote102eace420="CustomOrderThis"]No Evo, you did offers on his network that you also did on my network, which is including my network.[/quote102eace420]

You guys aren't on the same network, are ya?

condra

14-02-2007 18:04:20

so just let me get this straight basically, if one of my refs is on hold for lets say yourgiftsfree then it automatically places him on hold on all the other sites? so i cannot use him on another site if i know he's red on one.?
even f he did an ''newbie's '' mistake?

CustomOrderThis

14-02-2007 18:05:54

[quote64bd8853ee="condra"]so just let me get this straight basically, if one of my refs is on hold for lets say yourgiftsfree then it automatically places him on hold on all the other sites? so i cannot use him on another site if i know he's red on one.?
even f he did an ''newbie's '' mistake?[/quote64bd8853ee]
It depends on what he is on hold for.

And Evo, you did Gate.com on both YGF and my site.

evodriverdo

14-02-2007 18:09:11

[quote83adcc5034="CustomOrderThis"]And Evo, you did Gate.com on both YGF and my site.[/quote83adcc5034]

That wasn't my question, I was asking if you guys are on the same network. and how is this different from the user you took off of hold if you two are on seperate networks?

chrome89k

14-02-2007 18:09:37

ok... so u say u've taken me off hold.... and i dont see anything changed... still says my request has been denied

CustomOrderThis

14-02-2007 18:11:13

Chrome, sorry about that, I changed it to approved.

And Evo, I don't understand your network question. Chrome supposedly frauded on Free4me. The difference is that he did not do the same offer he did on Free4me on my site. You did Gate.com on at least 2 sites.

chrome89k

14-02-2007 18:11:59

thanks so much.... its ok ... mistakes happen... thanks again everyone

evodriverdo

14-02-2007 18:15:39

[quote1775110d0d="CustomOrderThis"]And Evo, I don't understand your network question. Chrome supposedly frauded on Free4me. The difference is that he did not do the same offer he did on Free4me on my site. You did Gate.com on at least 2 sites.[/quote1775110d0d]

Well alright. The original issue here was that Chrome supposedly frauded on Free4me so you placed them on hold. The argument was made that you shouldn't do that because the Free4Me Network is a whole different network than you're on. So. My question was asking if you're on the same network as YGF and I thought it might've been the same situation because from the looks of it, people are saying that one shouldn't be placed on hold for their actions on a different network.

YourGiftsFree

14-02-2007 18:20:15

Evo, You frauded Video Professor, Gate.com, True.com, and more. You repeated them multiple times. That is why you are on hold on YGF

CustomOrderThis

14-02-2007 18:22:10

Let me explain it better for you Evo.
Chrome=
True.com twice on Free4me, but did not do True.com on my sites.
You=
Did Gate.com on YGF, and then did it on my site.

Chrome's situation does not include my site/s, but yours does.

evodriverdo

14-02-2007 18:25:21

Well. Okay. I apologize, I misunderstood the situation.

moviemadnessman

14-02-2007 18:26:25

[quote724ab7b80a="evodriverdo"][quote724ab7b80a="CustomOrderThis"]And Evo, I don't understand your network question. Chrome supposedly frauded on Free4me. The difference is that he did not do the same offer he did on Free4me on my site. You did Gate.com on at least 2 sites.[/quote724ab7b80a]

Well alright. The original issue here was that Chrome supposedly frauded on Free4me so you placed them on hold. The argument was made that you shouldn't do that because the Free4Me Network is a whole different network than you're on. So. My question was asking if you're on the same network as YGF and I thought it might've been the same situation because from the looks of it, people are saying that one shouldn't be placed on hold for their actions on a different network.[/quote724ab7b80a]

I'm not taking sides, but here's how I see it. Chrome frauded Free4Me by doing True.com multiple times. It doesn't appear that he did this offer on CustomOrderThis, thus making his hold invalid.

You seem to have done Gate.com on two sites, YGF and CustomOrderThis. Completing the same offer twice is fraud, no matter what site you do it on. As you frauded the offer on those two networks, you account for both can be put on hold. Hence, your hold will probably stay in place.

moviemadnessman

14-02-2007 18:27:13

Wow ... I was slow at typing I guess.

chrome89k

14-02-2007 18:36:32

i see that ygf network's have same terms of service (meaning... does not include fraud on other networks resulting on hold on ygf site)... ygf cannot nail me for offer fraud either since i dont not fraud on that network.... that would be same situation as the one with the customorderthis... correct?

YourGiftsFree

14-02-2007 18:53:24

[quote84f19cf952="chrome89k"]i see that ygf network's have same terms of service (meaning... does not include fraud on other networks resulting on hold on ygf site)... ygf cannot nail me for offer fraud either since i dont not fraud on that network.... that would be same situation as the one with the customorderthis... correct?[/quote84f19cf952]

We have no control over that COT used our TOS as a base. If another network puts you on hold for a reason that you didnt do on YGF, you are fine )

So in essence you are fine and welcome to YGF! D

chrome89k

14-02-2007 19:03:45

thank you so much for contacting me ygf... good to know im good on your site...

YourGiftsFree

14-02-2007 19:11:04

[quote940cfc58a3="chrome89k"]thank you so much for contacting me ygf... good to know im good on your site...[/quote940cfc58a3]

Np, anytime you need help, let us know )

egyptianruin

14-02-2007 21:06:06

[quote82da1956f7="moviemadnessman"]

I'm not taking sides, but here's how I see it. [b82da1956f7]Chrome frauded Free4Me by doing True.com multiple times[/b82da1956f7]. It doesn't appear that he did this offer on CustomOrderThis, thus making his hold invalid.

You seem to have done Gate.com on two sites, YGF and CustomOrderThis. [b82da1956f7]Completing the same offer twice is fraud, no matter what site you do it on[/b82da1956f7]. As you frauded the offer on those two networks, you account for both can be put on hold. Hence, your hold will probably stay in place.[/quote82da1956f7]

lol, wtf. Im happy frauders are allowed to galavant around freely on FIPG. No wonder I do most my trading on A4F. If the second bolded statement is true essentially chrome is still a frauder. Nothing like trading with people who might go red in the future! Weeee! Cheers to frauders roll

Daggoth

14-02-2007 21:15:07

[quote69bc155bc3="egyptianruin"][quote69bc155bc3="moviemadnessman"]

I'm not taking sides, but here's how I see it. [b69bc155bc3]Chrome frauded Free4Me by doing True.com multiple times[/b69bc155bc3]. It doesn't appear that he did this offer on CustomOrderThis, thus making his hold invalid.

You seem to have done Gate.com on two sites, YGF and CustomOrderThis. [b69bc155bc3]Completing the same offer twice is fraud, no matter what site you do it on[/b69bc155bc3]. As you frauded the offer on those two networks, you account for both can be put on hold. Hence, your hold will probably stay in place.[/quote69bc155bc3]

lol, wtf. Im happy frauders are allowed to galavant around freely on FIPG. No wonder I do most my trading on A4F. If the second bolded statement is true essentially chrome is still a frauder. Nothing like trading with people who might go red in the future! Weeee! Cheers to frauders roll[/quote69bc155bc3]

People make mistakes, so I just let them slide. If every newbie that accidently did an offer twice was banned, we would be out of many traders. I've traded with some users multiple times, and if they accidently turn red once because of offer fraud, then they just refund my money, and we both are on our merry way.

egyptianruin

14-02-2007 21:42:58

[quote3956521e26="Daggoth"][quote3956521e26="egyptianruin"][quote3956521e26="moviemadnessman"]

I'm not taking sides, but here's how I see it. [b3956521e26]Chrome frauded Free4Me by doing True.com multiple times[/b3956521e26]. It doesn't appear that he did this offer on CustomOrderThis, thus making his hold invalid.

You seem to have done Gate.com on two sites, YGF and CustomOrderThis. [b3956521e26]Completing the same offer twice is fraud, no matter what site you do it on[/b3956521e26]. As you frauded the offer on those two networks, you account for both can be put on hold. Hence, your hold will probably stay in place.[/quote3956521e26]

lol, wtf. Im happy frauders are allowed to galavant around freely on FIPG. No wonder I do most my trading on A4F. If the second bolded statement is true essentially chrome is still a frauder. Nothing like trading with people who might go red in the future! Weeee! Cheers to frauders roll[/quote3956521e26]

People make mistakes, so I just let them slide. If every newbie that accidently did an offer twice was banned, we would be out of many traders. I've traded with some users multiple times, and if they accidently turn red once because of offer fraud, then they just refund my money, and we both are on our merry way.[/quote3956521e26]

But thing is most people aren't doing offer fraud because they are new, they are doing it because they know how to fraud and think they can get away with it. Working for RevU has opened my eyes more on people who fraud and Ive seen some people do things like true.com like 7-8 times, video professor 3-4 and so on. That's not a mistake or accidental, it's intentional.

moviemadnessman

14-02-2007 21:53:17

[quotedefc18a730="egyptianruin"][quotedefc18a730="Daggoth"][quotedefc18a730="egyptianruin"][quotedefc18a730="moviemadnessman"]

I'm not taking sides, but here's how I see it. [bdefc18a730]Chrome frauded Free4Me by doing True.com multiple times[/bdefc18a730]. It doesn't appear that he did this offer on CustomOrderThis, thus making his hold invalid.

You seem to have done Gate.com on two sites, YGF and CustomOrderThis. [bdefc18a730]Completing the same offer twice is fraud, no matter what site you do it on[/bdefc18a730]. As you frauded the offer on those two networks, you account for both can be put on hold. Hence, your hold will probably stay in place.[/quotedefc18a730]

lol, wtf. Im happy frauders are allowed to galavant around freely on FIPG. No wonder I do most my trading on A4F. If the second bolded statement is true essentially chrome is still a frauder. Nothing like trading with people who might go red in the future! Weeee! Cheers to frauders roll[/quotedefc18a730]

People make mistakes, so I just let them slide. If every newbie that accidently did an offer twice was banned, we would be out of many traders. I've traded with some users multiple times, and if they accidently turn red once because of offer fraud, then they just refund my money, and we both are on our merry way.[/quotedefc18a730]

But thing is most people aren't doing offer fraud because they are new, they are doing it because they know how to fraud and think they can get away with it. Working for RevU has opened my eyes more on people who fraud and Ive seen some people do things like true.com like 7-8 times, video professor 3-4 and so on. That's not a mistake or accidental, it's intentional.[/quotedefc18a730]

You would think those sites (True, Video Professor, etc) would pay a little more attention to a person who is doing the trial multiple times ... since they are also losing money if they let it happen. Doesn't make fraud right, but it does wonder why the frauded sites don't really do anything...

egyptianruin

14-02-2007 22:18:23

[quote2ff0d4a519="moviemadnessman"]
You would think those sites (True, Video Professor, etc) would pay a little more attention to a person who is doing the trial multiple times ... since they are also losing money if they let it happen. Doesn't make fraud right, [b2ff0d4a519]but it does wonder why the frauded sites don't really do anything[/b2ff0d4a519]...[/quote2ff0d4a519]

They do. They pull offers and then everyone suffers. Just look at Tickle...

moviemadnessman

14-02-2007 22:21:26

[quotec0e94c0d05="egyptianruin"][quotec0e94c0d05="moviemadnessman"]
You would think those sites (True, Video Professor, etc) would pay a little more attention to a person who is doing the trial multiple times ... since they are also losing money if they let it happen. Doesn't make fraud right, [bc0e94c0d05]but it does wonder why the frauded sites don't really do anything[/bc0e94c0d05]...[/quotec0e94c0d05]

They do. They pull offers and then everyone suffers. Just look at Tickle...[/quotec0e94c0d05]

Tickle used to be an offer?! Really? Man ... well, I guess they do do something after all.

Daggoth

14-02-2007 22:34:59

[quoteb60742b54d="egyptianruin"][quoteb60742b54d="Daggoth"][quoteb60742b54d="egyptianruin"][quoteb60742b54d="moviemadnessman"]

I'm not taking sides, but here's how I see it. [bb60742b54d]Chrome frauded Free4Me by doing True.com multiple times[/bb60742b54d]. It doesn't appear that he did this offer on CustomOrderThis, thus making his hold invalid.

You seem to have done Gate.com on two sites, YGF and CustomOrderThis. [bb60742b54d]Completing the same offer twice is fraud, no matter what site you do it on[/bb60742b54d]. As you frauded the offer on those two networks, you account for both can be put on hold. Hence, your hold will probably stay in place.[/quoteb60742b54d]

lol, wtf. Im happy frauders are allowed to galavant around freely on FIPG. No wonder I do most my trading on A4F. If the second bolded statement is true essentially chrome is still a frauder. Nothing like trading with people who might go red in the future! Weeee! Cheers to frauders roll[/quoteb60742b54d]

People make mistakes, so I just let them slide. If every newbie that accidently did an offer twice was banned, we would be out of many traders. I've traded with some users multiple times, and if they accidently turn red once because of offer fraud, then they just refund my money, and we both are on our merry way.[/quoteb60742b54d]

[bb60742b54d]But thing is most people aren't doing offer fraud because they are new, they are doing it because they know how to fraud and think they can get away with it.[/bb60742b54d] Working for RevU has opened my eyes more on people who fraud and Ive seen some people do things like true.com like 7-8 times, video professor 3-4 and so on. That's not a mistake or accidental, it's intentional.[/quoteb60742b54d]

That is a hasty generalization. There was an influx of newbs at FiPG less than a month ago, and during that time, around 75% of the offer fraud was accidental and compensated for. Yes, in the long term most of the offer fraud is not accidental, but it depends from a case-by-case situation. When a 0 TR genuine new user turns red and refunds you immediately, there is a very low chance that he is a scammer trying to offer fraud. By punishing these newbies for mistakes they did not know that they made, the population of traders decreases. I realize where you are coming from - ban all frauders regardless of status - but it seems very harsh to do so.

egyptianruin

14-02-2007 23:08:25

[quotedcf7e26287="Daggoth"]

That is a hasty generalization. There was an influx of newbs at FiPG less than a month ago, and during that time, around 75% of the offer fraud was accidental and compensated for. Yes, in the long term most of the offer fraud is not accidental, but it depends from a case-by-case situation. When a 0 TR genuine new user turns red and refunds you immediately, there is a very low chance that he is a scammer trying to offer fraud. By punishing these newbies for mistakes they did not know that they made, the population of traders decreases. I realize where you are coming from - ban all frauders regardless of status - but it seems very harsh to do so.[/quotedcf7e26287]

The sad thing is that it is not a generalization. I understand some users don't know that completing offers more than once is considered fraud, but many sites state in their TOS - that they agree too when they sign up. In my previous statements however I am talking about long term traders frauding offers or just random new traders completing the same offer over and over and over again. Remember new traders with 0 TR can still be scammers - whether they be returning or new ones. All because someone issues a refund does not mean they aren't trying to scam sites, they merely got caught doing so.

theysayjump

15-02-2007 00:14:20

I've traded with (or conversed in the hopes of trading with) many new traders who simply assume that they can do the same offer as many times as they like as long as it's on a different site. The same way some people think they can do the same site multiple times as long as they do different offers.

We shouldn't all be so quick to judge because when Tickle was around, EVERYONE was doing those offers all the time (not necessarily the same test time after time after time) and it was advocated and publicly supported by many site owners who are now vociferous towards the recent newbie accidental fraud.

Of course, not all the newbies are making honest mistakes and there are definitely previously banned members and scammers coming back and hiding amongst the crowds, but that will always be the case until humanity gets a wakeup call.

fgr_admin

15-02-2007 12:02:56

[quote0a2b0d2123="egyptianruin"]
lol, wtf. Im happy frauders are allowed to galavant around freely on FIPG. No wonder I do most my trading on A4F. If the second bolded statement is true essentially chrome is still a frauder. Nothing like trading with people who might go red in the future! Weeee! Cheers to frauders roll[/quote0a2b0d2123]

As much as I have my squables with the mods here I don't think they allow fraud to be freely endorsed as you say. Mistakes happen, people make honest mistakes sometimes. Sometimes people do go on rampant fraud streaks and ruin it for everyone, but they are usually caught. I dont think A4F is any better then fipg in the policing of members. I have seen a ton of high TR members banned from both sites for fraud, and not one offer but 20-30. So sometimes it takes a little while to disern if it was a mistake or willful fraud.

[quote0a2b0d2123="egyptianruin"]Nothing like trading with people who might go red in the future! Weeee! Cheers to frauders roll[/quote0a2b0d2123]

Also this part really got my nerves in a pinch.

Funny how you ignore fraud when it benifits you. Remember the PM you sent me about prizebook egyptianruin? How you knew the owner of prizebook had frauded multiple sites? yet as a site cop for a4f you did nothing, except promote your link to the site in an effort to win a plasma tv. Then guess what? The day after the 2 site cops got paid for winning the promotion the site was banned on a4f. Now that is timing huh? Funny how you told me way before the promotion ended you knew the owner was a frauder but you and other site cops ignored it till you were paid.
I guess that deserves some cheers.

[quote0a2b0d2123="egyptianruin"]
But thing is most people aren't doing offer fraud because they are new, they are doing it because they know how to fraud and think they can get away with it. Working for RevU has opened my eyes more on people who fraud and Ive seen some people do things like true.com like 7-8 times, video professor 3-4 and so on. That's not a mistake or accidental, it's intentional.[/quote0a2b0d2123]

So are you saying you have proof this member frauded that many times or are you just saying this for argument sake?


[quote0a2b0d2123="egyptianruin"]
They do. They pull offers and then everyone suffers. Just look at Tickle...[/quote0a2b0d2123]

So funny you should mention this when the company you work for endorsed the fraud of this offer. So I guess it is ok for a site owner to endorse fraud when it benifits him?

When tickle was around only these 3 sites
fusioncash
trainn
123stuffforfree
clearly stated you could not do more then one. Your hero Peter was not one of those and allowed multiple purchases even though he knew it was against the publishers and companies policy. Yet since it was paying @$45.00 a lead I guess it was ok.

Yet Peter nor any other site owner was punished on your great a4f for this. It was swept under the table and ignored since site owners control the purse strings.

Tickle was not removed because users were willfully frauding it. It was removed because site owners were encouraging the fraud of the offer which cost everyone.

[b0a2b0d2123]So while your on your high horse maybe you should look behind you. Even great white horses drop stinky piles every now and then.[/b0a2b0d2123]


[quote0a2b0d2123="theysayjump"]I've traded with (or conversed in the hopes of trading with) many new traders who simply assume that they can do the same offer as many times as they like as long as it's on a different site. The same way some people think they can do the same site multiple times as long as they do different offers.

We shouldn't all be so quick to judge because when Tickle was around, EVERYONE was doing those offers all the time (not necessarily the same test time after time after time) and it was advocated and publicly supported by many site owners who are now vociferous towards the recent newbie accidental fraud.

Of course, not all the newbies are making honest mistakes and there are definitely previously banned members and scammers coming back and hiding amongst the crowds, but that will always be the case until humanity gets a wakeup call.[/quote0a2b0d2123]

kudos

chrome89k

15-02-2007 12:43:06

im not going to quote fgr admin.... but while being a member of a4f... i did not feel like i was being protected or rules were being enforced at all on that site... i got scammed from a user on that site and nobody did anything to punish the action... but somehow in the end i ended up getting banned from a4f for saying that i was displeased with the way the site was being run

gmario

15-02-2007 13:02:59

i got banned from a4f also becuase of an issue with customorderthis.com even though i never used a curse word on my post i still got banned "THINKS COT FRAUDED HIM", seems to me like they are really good freinds, althought i contacted the owner of customorderthis.com and he said my account was perfectly fine, and then i get my reffs an bamm i go on hold when i submit for my prize, got multiple excuses from him and still have my conversations saved, first he said my i had multiple accounts not once did he mention those accounts, then he said my addres was wrong wow simple mistake, then i get that i hav the same password as other users, after that maybe 2 weeks later i ask him on anything 4 free what were the emails that had my same password, since when users go on hold the owners provide the emails that were found under their account i never got that, the emails i got were from the UK and some other wierd one,i never been put on hold on any site,
and then i got banned from his support ticket section also blocked on aim, w/e no big deal glad u get yur problem taken care of Chrome
i in the other had im still wondering who this people r
email==dennisinned91@yahoo.comdennisinned91@yahoo.com=dennisinned91@yahoo.comdennisinned91@yahoo.com/email
email==dontbacktheboats@hotmail.co.ukdontbacktheboats@hotmail.co.uk=dontbacktheboats@hotmail.co.ukdontbacktheboats@hotmail.co.uk/email
maybe they are regitser on the forums here

http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=79058&st=0

egyptianruin

15-02-2007 16:27:05

[quotecd93c9c5d7="gmario"]i got banned from a4f also becuase of an issue with customorderthis.com even though i never used a curse word on my post i still got banned "THINKS COT FRAUDED HIM", seems to me like they are really good freinds, althought i contacted the owner of customorderthis.com and he said my account was perfectly fine, and then i get my reffs an bamm i go on hold when i submit for my prize, got multiple excuses from him and still have my conversations saved, first he said my i had multiple accounts not once did he mention those accounts, then he said my addres was wrong wow simple mistake, then i get that i hav the same password as other users, after that maybe 2 weeks later i ask him on anything 4 free what were the emails that had my same password, since when users go on hold the owners provide the emails that were found under their account i never got that, the emails i got were from the UK and some other wierd one,i never been put on hold on any site,
and then i got banned from his support ticket section also blocked on aim, w/e no big deal glad u get yur problem taken care of Chrome
i in the other had im still wondering who this people r
email==dennisinned91@yahoo.comdennisinned91@yahoo.com=dennisinned91@yahoo.comdennisinned91@yahoo.com/email
email==dontbacktheboats@hotmail.co.ukdontbacktheboats@hotmail.co.uk=dontbacktheboats@hotmail.co.ukdontbacktheboats@hotmail.co.uk/email
maybe they are regitser on the forums here

http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=79058&st=0[/quotecd93c9c5d7]

You were banned after being warned OVER and OVER to stop, you said OK then next post you did it AGAIN. FliCK and lilililili you are not approriate on A4F and you were told so, yet ya did it over and over and the mods had enough, oh well.

egyptianruin

15-02-2007 16:27:46

[quote0424de878a="chrome89k"]im not going to quote fgr admin.... but while being a member of a4f... i did not feel like i was being protected or rules were being enforced at all on that site... i got scammed from a user on that site and nobody did anything to punish the action... but somehow in the end i ended up getting banned from a4f for saying that i was displeased with the way the site was being run[/quote0424de878a]

You werent banned for that, lmao. I love how the banned users here just make up their own stories.

We helped you the best we could on your trade complaint but then you went and broke forum rules yourself. (doing true.com on free4me and also 123 network)

http//www.anything4free.com/forums/lofiversion/index.php/t77479.html

and we punished him alright http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showuser=10322

egyptianruin

15-02-2007 16:30:43

OMFG write me a novel. Im not one of your FIPG fights, I have better things to do with me time. But I will say this - As for proof on Prizebook ect, that was made public - I even made it known to Prizebook itself, I have no control over all the votes on A4F - voting to ban is a team thing. As for "proof" on this user - my comment was a generalized statement. Now back to my high horse. Yee Haw. roll

chrome89k

15-02-2007 19:43:59

someone close this thread...

egyptianruin

16-02-2007 06:07:53

yes please I have no desire to argue with anyone Im just having a crappy week and getting surgery on Tuesday is stressing me out more than normal.

chrome89k

16-02-2007 12:07:35

wutu getting surgery on?

egyptianruin

16-02-2007 14:22:53

[quote611e9155d5="chrome89k"]wutu getting surgery on?[/quote611e9155d5]
gallbladder removed

Jams44

21-02-2007 13:49:34

omg, ure gallbladder is such a jerk






...remember when i got banned from a4f (for being another user when i only posted like 15 times? lol, i hate that site)


but get better...gallbladders are for pussies (no offense) anyways

chrome89k

21-02-2007 20:53:26

wtf is a ballbladder.... and doesnt everyone have a gallblatter?

zr2152

21-02-2007 23:13:45

[quote014f313ad2="egyptianruin"][quote014f313ad2="chrome89k"]wutu getting surgery on?[/quote014f313ad2]
gallbladder removed[/quote014f313ad2]


I think you need Mike to send you that $90 Visa Gift Card now to cheer you up ).


BTW, you got my email right?