Why was my TR denied???

Me and another dude on the forums traded a couple nights ago, both went green instantly, and I checked today and it said "TR Denied"....why???

you got denied because one of you has to have a TR of 4..

hmm I was gonna link you to the trade module guide (http//forum.freeipodguide.com/tmodtutorial/index.php) thread but it seems it needs to be updated....

ah here it is.... http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=8376

[quote0b8106918e]--Trade Record--

a. After you have completed a trade with another user, use the Trade Module to "Request TR" so that both parties may receive a trade record point.

If both users have less than 4 TR...
You may not receive credit for your trade.

If at least one trader has 4 or more TR...
You will BOTH be credited, assuming that your trade is legitimate. [/quote0b8106918e]

wow that blows

there are a lot of help threads here that say you need +2 TR so maybe you can point that out and maybe get it a TR point lishrugsli

Actually, if you paid attention the rules were amended quite some time ago and the rule is +4TR now, not +2.

Just curious. What purpose does that rule serve? I cant really find a reason why two people with a TR below 4 cant get TR despite a smooth transaction.

-Drk

It's to discourage two people below 4 TR to trade, which makes scamming less likely.

I would think that if they have "good credit" elsewhere, Like referralswapper or A4F, then they can kind of decide whether or not they want to go through with the trade. I have a +15 on referralswapper and only a 2 here, I got denied TR on one trade so I would of had +3 for here. And I know that Nextlevel has a +100 or more on referralswapper and only a 3 here. I mean c'mon you have to start somewhere.

If you want to trade with him [ie812b068f4]there[/ie812b068f4], you will get credit. Here, we go by [ie812b068f4]our[/ie812b068f4] TR.

Nothing is preventing you from trading with him, but you won't get TR from it. And if you're not paying attention to TR for your trades anyway, why should you care if you get it or not? shrug

It seems like the admins make rules just to make rules...if 2 people complete an offer, they should both get positive feedback. Ebay has used this system for 10 years and they seem to be doing fine...

So if someone was to create mutiple accounts, trade with those other accounts and therefore receive TR that they shouldn't have, and then went on to scam people under 4TR by making them go first due to their inflated TR and scammed them, that would be OK?

That's why the rule is in place, so that for people to make multiple accounts on here and trade with themselves it's more difficult to get away with.

If you don't like the rules about TR, don't use it. Trade with whoever you want, but expect to go first a lot of the time.

And expect to be scammed a lot of the time as well.

Hey question regarding TR denial. I just recently joined these boards and had a trade with someone when we were both under 4TR. We just recently finished the trade because his offer took a while. I am now at 5 TR but the TR I requested is being denied. Is this because I started the trade when I was at 0-2 TR?

Did you request TR when you were above 4? If not, that's why it was denied. I did a trade when I first started here with someone else who was below 4, and we just waited until one of us was over 4 to ask for TR crediting,

Well I tried requesting it twice when I was at 5 TR. Although he is still under 4.

PM a mod.

TR will be denied if the trade was initiated when both users had a TR < 4.

As theysayjump explained, the rule is in place to discourage new users from trading with other new users, since neither party has an established reputation on this site and the risk of being scammed is much higher than usual.

Were we to credit these trades when one or the other trader [ia4bfa5ae68]eventually[/ia4bfa5ae68] reaches a TR > 4, the rule would be nearly useless because new users would not be discouraged from [ia4bfa5ae68]trading[/ia4bfa5ae68]with other new users, they would be discouraged from [ia4bfa5ae68]requesting credit for trading[/ia4bfa5ae68] with other new users too quickly.

The rule is effectively FiPG's statement that trades between new users are conducted at both users' own risk. As others have noted, you're welcome to proceed with these trades if you consider yourself a better judge of trustworthiness than what is indicated by a user's trade record.

[quote95c61f8b2a="Nimh"]Did you request TR when you were above 4? If not, that's why it was denied. I did a trade when I first started here with someone else who was below 4, and we just waited until one of us was over 4 to ask for TR crediting,[/quote95c61f8b2a]

This is very much against the rules. This can be considered TR inflation and you're lucky you're not banned.

[quoteb17849f004="KeithA"]TR will be denied if the trade was initiated when both users had a TR < 4.

As theysayjump explained, the rule is in place to discourage new users from trading with other new users, since neither party has an established reputation on this site and the risk of being scammed is much higher than usual.

Were we to credit these trades when one or the other trader [ib17849f004]eventually[/ib17849f004] reaches a TR > 4, the rule would be nearly useless because new users would not be discouraged from [ib17849f004]trading[/ib17849f004]with other new users, they would be discouraged from [ib17849f004]requesting credit for trading[/ib17849f004] with other new users too quickly.

The rule is effectively FiPG's statement that trades between new users are conducted at both users' own risk. As others have noted, you're welcome to proceed with these trades if you consider yourself a better judge of trustworthiness than what is indicated by a user's trade record.[/quoteb17849f004]

Ok well then thank you for the clarification.