Keep an Eye on denishashok and paulhall

Not proclaiming anything yet, but just by browsing the Trading Post right now I noticed that these people replied to about 3-6 different people's threads each asking for about 3-4 sites in each of them. Not to mention a few of them were the same sites as another thread they responded to. Finally the exact same typing that we all have come to know and love from the scammers that have been going around recently...again I am not saying anything negative yet, or even that these 2 have anything to do with each other, but just be careful as it looks suspicious. Search for the names and see for yourself.

Both are suspected of being the same sort of scammers we've been having a lot of lately. Either the same person, or closely associated.

Both have had their trading privileges suspended and are flagged "Do Not Trade With Me."

Thanks for keeping an eye out. I've taken it on as a personal crusade to root out these idiots. Everybody stay diligent and avoid trading with any brand new members who have no post history at all, who speak in broken English, and/or hit up multiple people for the same sites. If you think you've found someone suspicious, report them. It's getting ridiculous.

Well, that answers the question I just put in the yhn post. denishashok contacted me all insistant on being paid on green, I was about to send him a no thanks pm when I found this post.

What sucks most about these jerks is they're going to make it even harder ans less desirable for legitimate newbies to get a start at this.

B

I am denishashok, I did offers in A4F before, and the same id in A4F, because I can not access A4F in the last two days, so I come here. And ask the offers to do. I do not know why the admin suspended me.
Please check , admin.

Jeremiah1218 posted my ID in the Scammer , and caused that I can not trade. I want to ask a question

Jeremiah1218 how do you know I am a scammer????????? I am newer in thie forum. And I have the same id (denishashok) in A4F. Please check their, why you do post me as a scammer????

Also I want to ask the admin

Why you suspended and are flagged "Do Not Trade With Me."
just because some one post that topic??? If I post that topic for Jeremiah1218, how will you do? just because I am a newer in this forum? and My TR is 0? Hope you can check and then decide. Anyone started from 0 TR.

[quotefabc79084b="denishashok"]I am denishashok, I did offers in A4F before, and the same id in A4F, because I can not access A4F in the last two days, so I come here. And ask the offers to do. I do not know why the admin suspended me.
Please check , admin.[/quotefabc79084b]
You have a PM. Satisfy my concerns and I'll consider restoring your privileges.

It has nothing to do with TR, and everything to do with the fact that you fit the pattern of a lot of recent scammers.

She has indeed not been able to get on this website, please excuse her. I have been conversating with her on a different forum and she already spoke of not being able to get on this forum, And again please excuse her.

Thank you.

[quote2adfad41b1="dmorris68"][quote2adfad41b1="denishashok"]I am denishashok, I did offers in A4F before, and the same id in A4F, because I can not access A4F in the last two days, so I come here. And ask the offers to do. I do not know why the admin suspended me.
Please check , admin.[/quote2adfad41b1]
You have a PM. Satisfy my concerns and I'll consider restoring your privileges.

It has nothing to do with TR, and everything to do with the fact that you fit the pattern of a lot of recent scammers.[/quote2adfad41b1]


I have replied your PM , admin. Thanks for you to conside restoring my privileges.
But I want to know I obey any rules of the forum, and Jeremiah1218 post me in the scammer topic. Hope he can apolize for me. I did not get payment because his topic.

what is your name at anything4free forums?

I would like to verify that you have a good record there.

My username in A4F is denishashok, please check if I am a scammer

[quotea05c772d93="denishashok"]My username in A4F is denishashok, please check if I am a scammer[/quotea05c772d93]

+1 TR, joined August 12th.

Unproven, at best.

You have a TR of 1 at A4F when you have been there for almost 2 months and we are supposed to trust you? I did not post here saying you WERE a scammer, I just said for people to be careful dealing with you because you fit the perfect description of the numerous other scammers we have had here recently. If you are an honest trader then prove it to us, but please explain why you asked 2 different people to complete the exact same site, and why are you posting in a bunch of different threads asking for like 3 trades each....nobody can or wants to handle 12 trades at once. Again, prove us wrong but I doubt that will happen. If you are honest after all I will give you my apologies.

Thanks for you to reply me here. Yes, you did not say " I were a scammer", but you post the thread in Scammer Trader. I have 1 TR in A4F, and then I am a scammer? I have a 0 TR here, then I can not trade with others?

I do not know how to scam you. But I will let you know that I can finish the links in time and also I will refund 100% if there is red.

You obviously did not read anything I said...I never said you were a scammer because you had a TR of 1, I meant that it doesn't prove you to be legit. You claimed that since you were a member on A4F that we should trust you, but you do not have anything to back that up with. Complete a site for me without going red and pass approval and I will pay you. If you pass approval you have my apologies, if not, you are just as I expected.

Denishashok went green for me on 2 sites, 360elite4free and bose.vbux.

Our original agreement was that I pay he/she/it on approval. His account is currently under review, and is not yet approved. I received all of the messages below within a 48 hour timeframe.


Messages between us...

[be798d925bf]Denishashok[/be798d925bf]thanks for your PM, I will do the following links


Maybe I will let my [be798d925bf]friends [/be798d925bf]to finish some links, but I know the rules, we just do one by oneself. So the email maybe different, I will PM you when I finish.


http//www.360Elite4free.com/index.php - 33$ on green

http//GetSkinny.Git-R-Free.com- 50$ on green

http//bose.v-bux.com/index.php - 50$ on green

http//BigScreens.Git-R-Free.com/- 65$ on green

http//DuctTapedBundles.Git-R-Free.com/ - 115$ on green


[be798d925bf]Me [/be798d925bf]Ok, if the email addresses are different I will have to pay you on approval, and not on green.

Is that ok?

- Benny


[be798d925bf]Me[/be798d925bf] you only have +1 TR at a4f, and you have responded to 4 different posts asking for offer sites, just like you did here.

I'll pay you on approval.

[be798d925bf]denishashok[/be798d925bf] Yes, I ask more links from different people. Because my friends do that together with me.

Ok, then let me know then approval

[be798d925bf]Me[/be798d925bf] Having your friends complete offers for you is fraud.

[be798d925bf]Denishashok[/be798d925bf] You are wrong, A4F or this forum, in the trade area, all the links are completd by others, all are fraud? If let others to finish the site are fraud, then the offers sites are fraud?? I ask for the links, but I did not do that all by myself, and can I get payment if I do all? You should know that if pay for $25, maybe you pay fast. And what about $50? $100? I hope you respect others, if you do not believe me, you can withdraw the links you send to me, and if I have finished, I can contact the admin to delete my accounts.
Waiting for your reply

[be798d925bf]Me[/be798d925bf] I'm not going to argue with someone who barely speaks English.

You will get paid on approval.

(Account is still under review, only submitted for approval 24hours ago)

[be798d925bf]
Denishashok[/be798d925bf] I thought you will pay me after approval, If you do not pay me, I will write letter to the admin of the two sites. Because you said so after I finish sites for you, and you know the reason, at the same time I will POST your promised and PM to this forum

For these 2 sites, it does nothing for me that can not get payment , I will contact with the admin of the two sites, because you said let others to finish the offers are fraud.

I give you 4 hours, after 4 hours, I will do the above things.



[be798d925bf]Denishashok[/be798d925bf] I want to know when will you pay me

$33 http//www.360Elite4free.com/index.php?ref=4028251 email==luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com=luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email email==PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com=PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email
$50 http//bose.v-bux.com/index.php?id=4370 email==luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com=luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email email==PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com=PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email


If you do not pay me I will contact with the admin of the two sites to report spam

[be798d925bf]Me[/be798d925bf] I will pay you when your account is approved by both sites.

Both of the sites are reviewing your accounts right now, and they will tell me whether or not you are fraudulent.

(END)

I'm going to go ahead and vote definite scammer.

Yeah theres no question about it...

yes, bevanx promised to pay me upon green, and if the email address is different, he pay me upon approval. But please check

$33 http//www.360Elite4free.com/index.php?ref=4028251 email==luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com=luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email email==PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com=PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email
$50 http//bose.v-bux.com/index.php?id=4370 email==luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com=luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email email==PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com=PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email

The email is same, also the email is my PP account. But he always said that he will pay me after approval. I do not know how long should I wait. But he did not do as he promised.

[quotee39003903a="denishashok"]yes, bevanx promised to pay me upon green, and if the email address is different, he pay me upon approval. But please check

$33 http//www.360Elite4free.com/index.php?ref=4028251 email==luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com=luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email email==PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com=PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email
$50 http//bose.v-bux.com/index.php?id=4370 email==luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com=luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email email==PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com=PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email

The email is same, also the email is my PP account. But he always said that he will pay me after approval. I do not know how long should I wait. But he did not do as he promised.[/quotee39003903a]

As I have told you [be39003903a]three [/be39003903a]times today, your account is under review at both sites.

I will either

A. Pay you immediately if you account is approved or
B. Not pay you if your account turns red.

- Benny

The following PM is from bevanx, please check the second, he said if the email is different, he pay upon approval. Also please check my register email and my PP account


From bevanx
To denishashok
Posted Sun Sep 02, 2007 718 pm
Subject Re hello
denishashok wrote
hello, can I start? Please send me the links to confirm


Sure! Which sites interest you in particular?

And how new are you to this? Do you need any help?

Links are as follows

http//www.360Elite4free.com/index.php?ref=4028251 - 33$ on green

http//CashRewards.Git-R-Free.com/?r=5019 - 20$ on green

http//GetSkinny.Git-R-Free.com?r=5019 - 50$ on green

http//bose.v-bux.com/index.php?id=4370 - 50$ on green

http//BigScreens.Git-R-Free.com/?r=5019 - 65$ on green

http//DuctTapedBundles.Git-R-Free.com/?r=5019 - 115$ on green

Let me know which one(s) you would like to do, and what email address you will be using to sign up.


From bevanx
To denishashok
Posted Sun Sep 02, 2007 724 pm
Subject Re hello
denishashok wrote
thanks for your PM, I will do the following links


Maybe I will let my friends to finish some links, but I know the rules, we just do one by oneself. So the email maybe different, I will PM you when I finish.


http//www.360Elite4free.com/index.php?ref=4028251 - 33$ on green

http//GetSkinny.Git-R-Free.com?r=5019 - 50$ on green

http//bose.v-bux.com/index.php?id=4370 - 50$ on green

http//BigScreens.Git-R-Free.com/?r=5019 - 65$ on green

http//DuctTapedBundles.Git-R-Free.com/?r=5019 - 115$ on green


Ok, if the email addresses are different I will have to pay you on approval, and not on green.

Is that ok?




- Benny




$33 http//www.360Elite4free.com/index.php?ref=4028251 email==luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com=luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email email==PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com=PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email
$50 http//bose.v-bux.com/index.php?id=4370 email==luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com=luke4luckey@yahoo.comluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email email==PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com=PPluke4luckey@yahoo.comPPluke4luckey@yahoo.com/email

bevanx , (I'm going to go ahead and vote definite scammer.)

go ahead please, you said I am definite scammer????????????????????? Hope you take charge for your words.

I am a broker trader, is it forbidded?????

Wow [b89da17c4a1]fourth [/b89da17c4a1]time today

I WILL PAY YOU WHEN YOUR ACCOUNT IS APPROVED.

If you as legitimate as you claim, why the hell are you flipping out over an extra 48 hours?

[quote23f0920bbe="denishashok"]I am a broker trader, is it forbidded?????[/quote23f0920bbe]

It certainly should be. If brokered refs were legit than they can just come and set up the trade themselves.

[quotec7bebf8ce0="dmorris68"]Both are suspected of being the same sort of scammers we've been having a lot of lately. Either the same person, or closely associated.

Both have had their trading privileges suspended and are flagged "Do Not Trade With Me."

Thanks for keeping an eye out. I've taken it on as a personal crusade to root out these idiots. Everybody stay diligent and avoid trading with any brand new members who have no post history at all, who speak in broken English, and/or hit up multiple people for the same sites. If you think you've found someone suspicious, report them. It's getting ridiculous.[/quotec7bebf8ce0]



I want to ask dmorris68 WHY YOU SUSPECTED MY ID?? Please prove me that I am a scammer. And I also want to know if I was not born in US, then I can not live in America? And if I speak broke Eglish , and I can not live in America? America do not welcome other country's people to live here?????????????

I hope the ADMIN OF THIS FORUM CAN TREAT ALL THE MEMBERS FAIRLY. Do not have warp for any members. Even I go red for others, then that will prove I am a scammer????? I want to know who can ensure they do not red any time. Please, admin of this forum finish the investigation soon, because dmorris68 affect my normal life.

We will know how legitimate you are if you pass approval for the sites you already completed. If you stay green for some people, I'm sure dmorris will let u trade again. Why is it so hard for you to just be patient for a day or 2?

If dmorris suspend your account for several days just because someone post one thread, how do you think??

If I red for the sites I completed, then am a scammer? Why they promised pay upon green , but always find some reason to refuse pay me? The people who can not do as they promise, what do you think? Are they legitimate but I am treated as a scammer??

DENISHASHOK - you have some good points but you must understand - that this forum has been bombarded with scammers and unfortunately - their profiles are very similar to yours - mods. are just trying to protect everyone - you would not want to be scammed. If you pass approval - you WILL be paid and your status lifted and I hope given apologies as well. Rules state that if you are a broker - you must let other traders know - that is why the trader switched from green to on approval.
Hang in there, be patient - these rules are to protect everyone.

f. If you are trading for someone else who is not a member of this forum, then you must state in your thread that this is the case. People deserve to know who they are trading with and where their money/greens are coming from and/or going to.

thanks sandra habina , you are fair. It does not matter for me to wait for payment after approval if they said when PM me the links. But I can not understand, I did nothing but treated as a scammer, the people who can not do as they promised are ok.

And if there is red, and I do not refund the money to the traders, then I am a scammer, it is ok for the admin to banned me here.

But now, I want to know why I was treated as a scammer?? It is unfair to me. It will not appeat like this in A4F forum.

I need to write to the admin of this forum, someone here has the opinion of racism

[quote399e407299="denishashok"]If dmorris suspend your account for several days just because someone post one thread, how do you think??

If I red for the sites I completed, then am a scammer? Why they promised pay upon green , but always find some reason to refuse pay me? The people who can not do as they promise, what do you think? Are they legitimate but I am treated as a scammer??[/quote399e407299]

If a legitimate member was suspended from trading then they would be upset BUT they would understand. There are a lot of people here who have been scammed and dmorris is taking preventative action against you do to fitting the following scammer MOs

1.) You speak in very broken and poor English (this is not bad in and of itself and I am not saying everyone who speaks poor English is a scammer, just that several scammers are from countries other than the U.S. and don't speak English well.)

2.) You replied to several threads all at once and for several of the same sites.

3.) You insist on being paid on green but you have a 0 TR.

4.) Instead of trying to work through your issue here with the mods civilly, you became outraged and instead of trying to prove you're legit, you became defensive and argumentative.

5.) You're brokering trades without telling people.

6.) I can't tell from here but I'd bet money that you are signing in from a proxy. Maybe Dmorris will confirm that, maybe it's none of our business.

Why don't you quit the defensive outrage and just wait for a bit. If you are legitimate then you have nothing to worry about.

I remember the last time I stook up for a person and they ended up being a huge scammer "postalgirl" I think was the name, lol.

so it looks like you are waiting for vbux and train. Train can take a bit to approve. How long have you been waiting?

You keep saying if you go red and pay people back why would you be considered a scammer? People who turn red... turn red for a reason. Do you have any reason why you are even saying "if I turn red". If you are legit .. just chill and wait for the approval.

I guess your point is you didn't agree to be paid on approval at first?

I feel like we all have answered your questions about 50 times...you are not being paid because you fit the description of all the scammers we have had recently, simple as that. As to your question if you red on the sites you completed are you a scammer? Yes you are. Some people do go red at times for reasons that may not be their fault, its happened to me before but luckily I got it lifted, but when you go red on multiple sites all around the same time, it's pretty obvious you are a scammer. Also since you like to post PMs here from other people to try and prove them to look bad...I would like everyone to check out the PM that I received the other day from denishashok.

From denishashok
To Jeremiah1218
Posted Tue Sep 04, 2007 1146 pm
Subject hello
I do not the purpose of you to enter the forum, trade or defame otheres, I ask the links from you, I have my rights to choose to do which links and if I can complete, you posted thread in the scammer trader to say that, I do not know your purpose.
Do you know the effect for me? Why should I do your links and approve for you, is this trade or courtroom ?? You have claimed me, I have contacted with the admin, they suspended my ID because of your thread. But you just suggest without any fact.
I have intercepted the thread you posted, I do not think it will complete easily, now what I do is to require rule support. So please inform me your name and address, since you post that I want to know who are you.
Now I give you one hour to explain, otherwise, I will ask the law support

Why are you so concerned with who I am and where I live?

[quote3fd7a773aa="Jeremiah1218"]I feel like we all have answered your questions about 50 times...you are not being paid because you fit the description of all the scammers we have had recently, simple as that. As to your question if you red on the sites you completed are you a scammer? Yes you are. Some people do go red at times for reasons that may not be their fault, its happened to me before but luckily I got it lifted, but when you go red on multiple sites all around the same time, it's pretty obvious you are a scammer. Also since you like to post PMs here from other people to try and prove them to look bad...I would like everyone to check out the PM that I received the other day from denishashok.

From denishashok
To Jeremiah1218
Posted Tue Sep 04, 2007 1146 pm
Subject hello
I do not the purpose of you to enter the forum, trade or defame otheres, I ask the links from you, I have my rights to choose to do which links and if I can complete, you posted thread in the scammer trader to say that, I do not know your purpose.
Do you know the effect for me? Why should I do your links and approve for you, is this trade or courtroom ?? You have claimed me, I have contacted with the admin, they suspended my ID because of your thread. But you just suggest without any fact.
I have intercepted the thread you posted, I do not think it will complete easily, now what I do is to require rule support. So please inform me your name and address, since you post that I want to know who are you.
Now I give you one hour to explain, otherwise, I will ask the law support

Why are you so concerned with who I am and where I live?[/quote3fd7a773aa]

Denishashok,

This isn't China you idiot.

[quote371d61afcf="bevanx"][quote371d61afcf="Jeremiah1218"]I feel like we all have answered your questions about 50 times...you are not being paid because you fit the description of all the scammers we have had recently, simple as that. As to your question if you red on the sites you completed are you a scammer? Yes you are. Some people do go red at times for reasons that may not be their fault, its happened to me before but luckily I got it lifted, but when you go red on multiple sites all around the same time, it's pretty obvious you are a scammer. Also since you like to post PMs here from other people to try and prove them to look bad...I would like everyone to check out the PM that I received the other day from denishashok.

From denishashok
To Jeremiah1218
Posted Tue Sep 04, 2007 1146 pm
Subject hello
I do not the purpose of you to enter the forum, trade or defame otheres, I ask the links from you, I have my rights to choose to do which links and if I can complete, you posted thread in the scammer trader to say that, I do not know your purpose.
Do you know the effect for me? Why should I do your links and approve for you, is this trade or courtroom ?? You have claimed me, I have contacted with the admin, they suspended my ID because of your thread. But you just suggest without any fact.
I have intercepted the thread you posted, I do not think it will complete easily, now what I do is to require rule support. So please inform me your name and address, since you post that I want to know who are you.
Now I give you one hour to explain, otherwise, I will ask the law support

Why are you so concerned with who I am and where I live?[/quote371d61afcf]

Denishashok,

This isn't China you idiot.[/quote371d61afcf]

burrrn.

I say let him contact the "law support" ... and don't give your info to him...

Let him do whatever he wants...I'm sure the FBI is gonna come knockin at my door because I said you're a scammer on a freebie forum...

FYI everyone

Denishashok was approved on your360elite4free.com.

I have sent his PayPal payment for this referral.

FYI again

Denishashok went [be5ab4b93b4]red [/colore5ab4b93b4][/be5ab4b93b4]on bose.v-bux, and I won't be paying him for that one.

- Benny

well he did something wrong then.....

Wow he went red...I'm shocked