scm1980 / scuba25steve - BANNED
Fr1zzank
11-05-2007 13:30:12
Hey,
Just wanted to inform y'all that scm1980 has gone red at Media.HotGifts4You for offer fraud. However, only moments after going red, his hold was removed, it seems.
He's now yellow, so, does he have to complete another offer(s) to go green again? And if so, I shouldn't have to pay twice, right?
tinkerjenn
11-05-2007 13:37:08
yes he needs to complete another offer, and No, you aren't obligated to pay twice
Fr1zzank
11-05-2007 13:40:17
Good. I didn't intend on paying him twice >_>, but it's always good to have people backing me on it.
tinkerjenn
11-05-2007 13:41:44
Not your fault he went on hold )
gator1002
13-05-2007 09:54:02
Why would you post here? It seems there was a problem and he strightened it out. You should only post here if you have a user who isnt trying to fix the problem. You need to contact your trade partner. If that dont work then you contact a mod. Lets keep this section clear so we can post about actual scammers. (Fred)
Fr1zzank
15-05-2007 18:37:18
Because... he's refusing to go green now. He completed USA only offers, and is surprised that he went red. He's also saying he's only going to refund me my money MINUS what it cost him to do his offers. Also thinks that since he DID go green (before I went into approval) that he doesn't need to refund me. Also, he reads my messages (in which I'll ask for a reply), but he doesn't reply until I hassle him with a second or third.
I thought this was for problem traders, not just scammers. That's why I post it here. Y'know, those couple reasons. 8)
secondjob
15-05-2007 18:40:37
If you are having problems with this trader then I would suggest contacting a mod.
Fr1zzank
15-05-2007 20:12:43
I'll give him time. I feel like I'm being a jerk by having made this thread, but ah well.
KeithA
16-05-2007 17:01:44
He outright refused to compensate Fr1zzank, so he's been banned.
Fr1zzank
16-05-2007 19:19:49
Oh, wow. I wasn't expecting that! Well, can't complain. Thanks, KeithA. Now, I can continue on looking for a replacement green instead of hoping he'd straighten it out.
EDIT I've never had problems with people on here, or eBay, or anything, so... is there something I can do through PayPal to get my monies back?
KeithA
17-05-2007 05:45:53
[quote0f4018fe37="Fr1zzank"]Oh, wow. I wasn't expecting that! Well, can't complain. Thanks, KeithA. Now, I can continue on looking for a replacement green instead of hoping he'd straighten it out.
EDIT I've never had problems with people on here, or eBay, or anything, so... is there something I can do through PayPal to get my monies back?[/quote0f4018fe37]
It's unlikely to work, but if you've already paid him, you can open a PayPal dispute. Search for "paypal dispute" for more info on those.
Fr1zzank
17-05-2007 07:58:31
He escalated it to a claim (wasn't I supposed to do that?), and is saying that I should not have assumed he would be approved, and that he did do green (for all of a couple hours) so the deal was completed as promised.
I mean, yes, I could have waited for approval before paying, but how many people would want to go green on approval. Really?
So the guy seems like he had no intent on going and staying green. Argh!! Scammers!! Anyone else want to start only paying on approval with me?! Let's start a revolution.
tinkerjenn
17-05-2007 08:06:52
I only pay on approval now.
laurelwm
17-05-2007 14:24:57
[quote98efe2cefc="Fr1zzank"]
Anyone else want to start only paying on approval with me?! Let's start a revolution.[/quote98efe2cefc]
I almost always pay only on approval unless I know the person.
Laurel
KeithA
20-05-2007 11:31:18
scm1980 was banned and returned as scuba25steve, who was also banned.
gator1002
20-05-2007 11:39:24
wtg, stay on them KeithA.
gator1002
20-05-2007 11:40:57
I defended this person and then he took me for $30.00 Oh well, live and leard. I guess you guys had a better feel for this user than I.
KeithA
20-05-2007 11:52:27
He had an opportunity to resolve the matter fairly and easily, but he chose not to.
mention to paypal that the requirement for completing the site is to stay green thru approval and that his own claim is frivolous. did u fund it thru a credit card or your bank account?
if i pay people before approval i fund using a cc now so that i can charge back if paypal fails to support me )
DIABLO
20-05-2007 14:13:13
[quote59fcbdd1b3="jy3"]mention to paypal that the requirement for completing the site is to stay green thru approval and that his own claim is frivolous. did u fund it thru a credit card or your bank account?
if i pay people before approval i fund using a cc now so that i can charge back if paypal fails to support me )[/quote59fcbdd1b3]
Don't do that, say he never went green at all or you won't get it refunded.
gator1002
20-05-2007 14:17:42
that wont work. I tried the same thing. If its not an actual item then paypal wont help.
shawng31
20-05-2007 14:18:38
hmmm jy3 that is an interesting idea.. i never thought of that.. not sure really how it worx but i guess its like stoppin payment or somethin??.. i think i may consider this myself down the road.. good idea.. thanx for postin that )
Shawn
psbread
20-05-2007 15:44:01
OMG...I just traded with him last nite on A4F!! SOB
trusano
20-05-2007 15:56:08
arrgh psbread. you better inform the site admin ASAP.
Also.. if this person went on hold for offer fraud, how did he manage to come off hold? I thought that no matter what, that is not tolerable?
some sites are lenient with hold and will remove a user from red...
oh one other idea.
do u have his information from his paypal?
you can request a user's address. if he is a minor u can call his parents. seems childish but it works!
trusano
20-05-2007 16:04:52
Right... but this was "OFFER FRAUD" which violates the TOS on most, if not all, freebie sites. So I'm thinking it probably wasn't offer fraud. Is parth getting lenient?
KeithA
20-05-2007 16:36:32
[quotef820d4bafa="psbread"]OMG...I just traded with him last nite on A4F!! SOB[/quotef820d4bafa]
I posted there about him earlier today. Sorry I didn't get there sooner.
psbread
20-05-2007 16:46:24
Ill just get the support on the site to verify....already paid him though. cry
Fr1zzank
21-05-2007 14:21:17
Sorry, ain't been checking this since I just figured he was banned and that was it.
I find it quite hi-larious that he came back as scuba25steve. I noticed that username, and appreciated the Big Daddy reference... but not so much anymore.
As far as actually getting any sort of resolution from this, I've given up. I'm just happy he's been banned... twice. Sucks though, because now I'm only going to be paying on green for higher-TR users. I'll counter that with higher payouts though D
Thanks for keeping on top of him, mods! Much appreciated.
psbread
23-05-2007 13:43:08
Well he went red on the site he did for me...He replied on A4F before he got banned there too. ? This is what he said
hey there..
i know you are worried that i committed offer fraud - but i assure you we have no problems with the trade we did. i had problems with other users on FiPG and left that site and came here.
you are the only person i have traded with since I got here..
It's a legit trade - i can even send you a copy of the email from the offer I completed
I've even sent in a support ticket on FreeWii4me to have them verify my offer ASAP
if there are ANY problems with the trade that you and I completed, then I will refund you the full amount of our trade
Like I said, I left the other site because of some problems.
Steve
But now i have a dispute with him and he refuses to pay me back x
KeithA
23-05-2007 13:59:19
He'll go red anywhere and everywhere. I'd be persistent with the PayPal dispute. You might even try speaking with PayPal customer service by phone.
jdizzle314
23-05-2007 17:23:25
All you have to do is metion that its a pyramid shecme kind of thing any they will side in your favor..
psbread
24-05-2007 11:36:56
lol really?