BEWARE of cloud364 - nothing but problems

I traded with this guy a couple days ago. I noticed two sign ups by him under my site and PM'd asking not to do any offers if those were both his name. He did the offers and went red. He has been nothing but problems. He refused to read rules and I asked him over and over again to do so - I have the PMs to prove this. Then he told me he was going to lie to Primo Dinero about why he signed up twice and that I was to go along with it.

I currently owe him for a Visa site, but mods have told me I could pay him on approval because he went red on the other site. This guy has been demanding money from me, lying and generally insulting me by resorting to the old "you have no life, you worship the forum." Of course I'm called rude when I point out the fact that this is all his fault for not reading rules.

BEWARE - do not trade with him. He is nothing but trouble. I'm sure he'll have something to say about me in return but those who trade with me know I am helpful and understanding. This guy just pushed me to the point of being blunt.

I didn't want to do this but I believe others should know what they're dealing with before accepting a trade or initiating with this guy.

I am not calling cloud364 a scammer, but he is definitely a problem trader

Oh and my Primo site isn't the only one he was put on hold by. I had a bad feeling when he told me was cheated by another trader. I learned a lesson here, and now unfortunately I am a bit leary about 19 year old newbies!

Be aware - he has posted in the Help section about this and is complaining about it (although his post is VERY hard to read - mostly without punctuation and misspelled). After reading this post, I definately see harley_girl1963's point.

Laurel

[quoteda8dc9f6d3="laurelwm"]Be aware - he has posted in the Help section about this and is complaining about it (although his post is VERY hard to read - mostly without punctuation and misspelled). After reading this post, I definately see harley_girl1963's point.

Laurel[/quoteda8dc9f6d3]

Very very hard to read. He has a topic on the trading post that is hard to read also.

[quote1532fe037c="harley_girl1963"]I traded with this guy a couple days ago. I noticed two sign ups by him under my site and PM'd asking not to do any offers if those were both his name. He did the offers and went red. He has been nothing but problems. He refused to read rules and I asked him over and over again to do so - I have the PMs to prove this. Then he told me he was going to lie to Primo Dinero about why he signed up twice and that I was to go along with it.

I currently owe him for a Visa site, but mods have told me I could pay him on approval because he went red on the other site. This guy has been demanding money from me, lying and generally insulting me by resorting to the old "you have no life, you worship the forum." Of course I'm called rude when I point out the fact that this is all his fault for not reading rules.

BEWARE - do not trade with him. He is nothing but trouble. I'm sure he'll have something to say about me in return but those who trade with me know I am helpful and understanding. This guy just pushed me to the point of being blunt.

I didn't want to do this but I believe others should know what they're dealing with before accepting a trade or initiating with this guy.

I am not calling cloud364 a scammer, but he is definitely a problem trader

Oh and my Primo site isn't the only one he was put on hold by. I had a bad feeling when he told me was cheated by another trader. I learned a lesson here, and now unfortunately I am a bit leary about 19 year old newbies![/quote1532fe037c]

Damn tell him to chill i had people done those mistakes but they never gave me and attitude, does he think his big or something talking to a lady like that ?

I just put this in the help section as a response. But I think it should go here as well.

BEWARE!!!!

On March 4, I initiated 2 trades with cloud364. In our first communitcation he told me he was cheated out of $17 on another site. I felt a little hesitant but gave him a chance anyway. He did Primo Dinero and Visa $2 Deals. I noticed on my Primo account he had signed up under two different emails and this threw up a red flag. Realizing he was new and may have messed up, I PMed him and asked him not to do any offers until we contact support. Too late, he was approved and quickly went red. Even though he went red, he insisted I pay him cause it would be OK, he would tell Primo he didn't use the internet much and was a student and new and didn't understand. He stated I should go along and I told him I would not do that, as it is dishonest. Meanwhile he went green on my Visa on March 5 and I spoke with theysayjump and KeithA about waiting on approval for the Visa site. I got this reply from TSJ

Hey Judy, I think you have a right to request them to wait until after approval until being paid on the other site. Try to speak to the site owner and ask if they can check the out before approval to try to save you some time and also make your decision making process easier.

Unfortunately, you can only cancel your trade if they are placed on hold on the site in question (if he goes on hold one one site but not the other, you can't cancel both, only the one he went red on), or if you both agree to cancel the trade, or if you try to contact him at least twice within two weeks and receive no response at all from him.

Frank

And here is my contact with KeithA

harley_girl1963 wrote
I have told him he will be paid. He's really been a problem calling me rude, demanding money, telling me he's going to lie about why it happened to Primo and expecting me to go along. I have tried my best not to be rude, and I don't thing telling someone if they read the rules this wouldn't happen. I told him over and over to read the rules. Anyway, the Primo site has him on permanent hold. As for the Visa site, he is green and I have every intention of paying him. I don't cheat people, but TSJ told me I had every right to pay on approval to a trader who has gone red on me at the other site, so that is what I am doing. If I pay him now, I can kiss that money goodbye.

Others should be aware not to trade with him. I'm not calling him a scammer, just a problem trader.

Thanks for your help!


That's all fine with me too. He'll fall into line.

Thanks!

So I have been told by both I can wait on approval. Well I have 3 more refs to get - boy it's been hard lately (especially since two of the refs I had went red - both newbies and for the same reason - more than one account)

Yes, I put a note about cloud on the Problem Traders section because I feel others need to be aware that it could be a problem trading with him. I would want to know that.

I got this really nasty response from cloud on 3/6

From cloud364
To harley_girl1963
Posted Tue Mar 06, 2007 540 pm
Subject Re Update
yes i got banned from the another site but that was before i did yours and it was wasnt really a faULTY mistake i didnt know that they would ban u from a site if you use two cards on a site but both of the cards are in your name. i used a prepaid mastercard on a offer and for a higher offer i used my checking account visa.and they bannded me both both cards belong to me how stupid is that ? but anyway its doesnt really matter to me about this petty ass little 20 dollars weve been bickering about over the last few days. and i acknowledge ive made a mistake. and I'm a college student who unlike you has an actual life and money besides this little forum thing. im not trying to cheat people on the site but i also wont worship this little trade thing as god either like you do. the 20 bucks id be nice but to tell the truth since your that petty and stingy over it thats cool. i dont really care anymore.
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So then on 3/9 I got this one saying he was OK with waiting on approval

i understand that and its cool. I actual just got a new credit card so now ill have three and the last offer i did was for you. i havent been on these past few days but when i get a chance to really focus on the site ima gonna make a killing. so im compfortable waiting. but i know it will go through because you were one of the only 2 people ive done offers for

Now today, 3/13 I get this

From cloud364
To harley_girl1963
Posted Tue Mar 13, 2007 930 pm
Subject im reporting u
im now reporting you to the mods its been over almost 3 weeks now on the site or used that card since that day and still no 20 and i know i gave you green cause i havent used that card since you claim your so s sinceelf righteous and your ungrateful ass reported me which was wrong of you.

Now this is all good, but there is more to this story and I am not in the wrong here.

And last time I checked 3/4 to 3/13 is NOT 3 WEEKS!

I would seriously think about it before trading with this guy. His green is not worth the trouble. Oh and by the way, I have every intention of paying him, if and when his green sticks.[/coloraa82273853]

And thanks to all who have spoken up for me!!!! lol lol lol