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zr2152

12-12-2006 22:18:19

[quotee89947c600="Menotti"]I paid Jasone89 for 3 referrals. 3 trades set up @ $25 each. He has since not contacted me and all of my attempts to contact him have not worked.[/quotee89947c600]

Same here, i paid him for 3 greens on friday and told me that he could have at least 2 by last night, only one signed up and no green. I read in his away message that he would get to them tonight and that there was some emergency.

Im going to give him till friday and then im going to open a paypal dispute, i dont give a shit what excuse he gives me. I have the higher TR and he told me that he needed the money soo bad so I fronted him most of it because I felt that I could give someone a break this holiday season.

dmorris68

13-12-2006 09:47:30

This seems to be recurring issue with him. I've just been in contact with him on behalf of another member.

Jasone89, I'm resetting your TR to -1 and restricting Trade Module access. You have one week from today to resolve all of your outstanding trades, or you will be banned and reported to the networks.

Menotti

13-12-2006 09:53:33

[quotefe7b176027="dmorris68"]This seems to be recurring issue with him. I've been in contact with him on behalf of another member.

Jasone89, I'm resetting your TR to -1 and restricting Trade Module access. You have one week from today to resolve all of your outstanding trades, or you will be banned and reported to the networks.[/quotefe7b176027]

Thanks dmorris.

TFOAF

13-12-2006 10:54:41

From what I here, there's been tons of emergency situations. His friends were to green for me on two sites, and apparently he cannot trust his friends any longer. He told me he'll be refunding me, (well he said last night)

I expect a refund of $106, so...yeah. And I told you Jason, if you green for me, I'll pay you the money back.

So right now, I'm just waiting for my refund. ;)

I had finally contacted and spoke to him on AIM last night. I don't think that he's a scammer, because he is fully cooperating and extremely understanding.

Menotti

13-12-2006 16:44:50

[quotef80a94bbd5="TFOAF"]His friends were to green for me on two sites, and apparently he cannot trust his friends any longer.[/quotef80a94bbd5]

he told me that he'd be getting me greens in the same manner - with his friends. As I said before, tried to contact him many times with no response.

TFOAF

13-12-2006 17:03:10

He's always busy. If anything, I assume he will refund you.

zr2152

14-12-2006 01:40:52

[quote0495eab1b5="TFOAF"]He's always busy. If anything, I assume he will refund you.[/quote0495eab1b5]

He better, i contaced him on AIM and he seems to have ignored my message. Like I said before, hes got till friday or Im going to open a paypal complaint, i dont care what his excuse is.

Menotti

14-12-2006 07:53:21

[quote5a237596ca="zr2152"][quote5a237596ca="TFOAF"]He's always busy. If anything, I assume he will refund you.[/quote5a237596ca]

He better, i contaced him on AIM and he seems to have ignored my message. Like I said before, hes got till friday or Im going to open a paypal complaint, i dont care what his excuse is.[/quote5a237596ca]

Same here. I contacted him via AIM (we spoke before on AIM - when he was wanting MY money). This time around, he didn't reply.

He has til Friday at 5pm for me, then a PayPal complaint goes in.

d11m

14-12-2006 14:52:27

i paid him paypal to get me 3 greens as well (, he still hasn't refunded my money or had any signups

TFOAF

14-12-2006 15:07:32

It's because of his friends. I fully understand his problem. I personally do not believe he's going to run, and I believe he's going to refund us and/or fix our trades.

Menotti

14-12-2006 16:10:49

[quote271a960031="TFOAF"]It's because of his friends. I fully understand his problem. I personally do not believe he's going to run, and I believe he's going to refund us and/or fix our trades.[/quote271a960031]

I'm not sure what to understand because he hasn't responded to me once yet. It sounds like he made promises for lots and lots of refs and all of a sudden can't pull through - not his fault though! it's his friends' faults!

d11m

15-12-2006 07:24:48

is anything gonna happen to him?

dmorris68

15-12-2006 08:21:29

[quote84d480e5e9="d11m"]is anything gonna happen to him?[/quote84d480e5e9]
We're monitoring the situation and I have been in contact with him, although he is ignoring my most recent PM. If he continues to ignore and delay, we will take the same action we take against others who do the same.

As we tell others when they ask this question if we just ban now while people are still owed, the likelyhood of anybody getting paid is slim to none.

So we'll give him some time... but not much more.

Jasone89, I ask you to stop ignoring your responsibilities. I PM'd you a couple days ago and gave you ONE week to resolve these issues, which runs out on [b84d480e5e9]12/20[/b84d480e5e9]. Don't try to claim ignorance because you ignored the PM. Make things right or else be banned and reported to the networks as a scammer.

Menotti

15-12-2006 08:22:08

he has til 5pm today, then I'm filing my PayPal complaint. The least he could have done was responded to my multiple modes of contact.

TFOAF

15-12-2006 10:57:37

I'm getting pretty nervous now...especially because $106 of mine is on the line.

zr2152

15-12-2006 11:33:54

[quote899b006cc5="TFOAF"]I'm getting pretty nervous now...especially because $106 of mine is on the line.[/quote899b006cc5]

Ill just take my $30 paypal back please

Menotti

15-12-2006 14:59:55

Buyer/seller dispute opened. Will give til Monday or Tuesday before I escalate it to a PayPal claim.

zr2152

15-12-2006 17:42:09

He imed me and told me that he is going to complete all trades at 930pm eastern time tonight, well see if he really comes through

Menotti

15-12-2006 23:17:30

[quote5c618d3120="zr2152"]He imed me and told me that he is going to complete all trades at 930pm eastern time tonight, well see if he really comes through[/quote5c618d3120]

Well it's after 2am EST on Saturday now and I didn't get anything. Sigh.

zr2152

16-12-2006 00:11:47

me either, look like im going to open that paypal complaint after all (

Menotti

16-12-2006 08:48:07

[quotee8f69fec09="zr2152"]me either, look like im going to open that paypal complaint after all ([/quotee8f69fec09]

No response to my complaint yet. Monday, I escalate to a claim.

TFOAF

16-12-2006 09:57:58

Shit.

zr2152

17-12-2006 15:51:32

opened a claim and immediately escalated it to a dispute. Im sick of this, i gave him the money first out of holiday spirit and he takes advantage of it.

Dont mess with me.

TFOAF

17-12-2006 16:44:05

Fuck fuck fuck where is he?!?!?!

Menotti

17-12-2006 16:59:40

[quote4adb634342="zr2152"]opened a claim and immediately escalated it to a dispute. Im sick of this, i gave him the money first out of holiday spirit and he takes advantage of it.

Dont mess with me.[/quote4adb634342]

I'm escalating to a claim now. I've attempted many times this weekend to contact him.

It might be favorable for our resolution if we have claims in at the same time.

zr2152

17-12-2006 17:58:33

[quotea0f39b96cb="Menotti"][quotea0f39b96cb="zr2152"]opened a claim and immediately escalated it to a dispute. Im sick of this, i gave him the money first out of holiday spirit and he takes advantage of it.

Dont mess with me.[/quotea0f39b96cb]

I'm escalating to a claim now. I've attempted many times this weekend to contact him.

It might be favorable for our resolution if we have claims in at the same time.[/quotea0f39b96cb]

Yeah i mentioned that when i opened mine. I said something like " im not the only one that currently has claims opened against this member," or something like that.

d11m

18-12-2006 13:09:06

i got my money refunded!! he doesn't seem like a scammer, just a person with a lot going on

TFOAF

18-12-2006 15:15:47

Hmm. Awesome! D

I know he's not a scammer. That's right, he's got a lot going on, and people have to have patience. Which is one reason I havn't filed a PayPal dispute yet. ;)

All I'm waiting for are two refunds. One for $40, and the other for $66, totaling $106. D

Thanks!

zr2152

18-12-2006 18:30:11

i hope he sends me back my $30 (

Menotti

19-12-2006 09:06:11

[quotea272ffa986="TFOAF"]Hmm. Awesome! D

I know he's not a scammer. That's right, he's got a lot going on, and people have to have patience. Which is one reason I havn't filed a PayPal dispute yet. ;)

All I'm waiting for are two refunds. One for $40, and the other for $66, totaling $106. D

Thanks![/quotea272ffa986]

even if he's busy, he should at least respond to one of us.

TFOAF

19-12-2006 11:04:15

Yeah. Still nothing for me. I tried contacting him last night, and his AIM away message showed something about his AIM and internet not working properly. frown

TFOAF

19-12-2006 16:18:08

Hey dmorris, do you think you could extend the amount of time before Jason's ban. It appears he's slowing refunding people, and I don't want to lose $106, as no one else here wants to lose their money. If you ban him, he might run off with our money. (

Menotti

19-12-2006 17:44:04

[quote74edb90193="TFOAF"]Hey dmorris, do you think you could extend the amount of time before Jason's ban. It appears he's slowing refunding people, and I don't want to lose $106, as no one else here wants to lose their money. If you ban him, he might run off with our money. ([/quote74edb90193]

agreed. don't ban him yet.

dmorris68

19-12-2006 17:53:42

I'll give him a little more time, but my patience isn't infinite. I realize you guys want your money back, but at some point you have to realize he just isn't interested in paying you -- if he was, he would have done so already. His unresponsiveness is also a clue as to his intentions. So we have to draw a line somewhere.

I'll extend the deadline another week, until 12/27. Merry Christmas, don't say I never gave you anything. ;)

TFOAF

19-12-2006 18:03:30

Thank you. <3

zr2152

19-12-2006 19:00:35

thanks!

Menotti

19-12-2006 22:53:11

thanks dmorris!

TFOAF

21-12-2006 05:35:56

Well...great news. D

One of my payments has been refunded. My $40. I still need my other $66 refunded.

Thanks! D

zr2152

21-12-2006 12:21:08

i have yet to get my money back yet, and it was only $30!

I wish that he would just talk to me on AIM

Aurelius

21-12-2006 14:17:18

Still nothing for me yet since I opened a dispute a week ago. Be nice if he'd just resolve the issue by refunding the money.

Menotti

21-12-2006 14:30:07

his AIM away msg currently reads
[quote55f585e773]aim and internet not working properly, trying to get it resolved now[/quote55f585e773]
according to this thread, it's been this way for quite a few days. I wish he'd just respond

TFOAF

21-12-2006 14:36:46

I really believe he's an extremely busy kid. I don't think he's a scammer at all.

Menotti

21-12-2006 16:21:43

[quotebec774dac7="TFOAF"]I really believe he's an extremely busy kid. I don't think he's a scammer at all.[/quotebec774dac7]

I want to believe that, but I am an extremely busy kid, too. It doesn't take much to go to a thread and post something or to reply to an IM.

TFOAF

21-12-2006 16:37:00

Alrighty. So I spoke to him on AIM. He's been out of state, and he said AIM wouldn't work there. So, he hopes to refund everybody. David, please do not ban him. I trust him. Everyone here should trust him. HE WILL REFUND YOU. Patience is the key.

[quotebfb1533dca]TFOAF You might wanna post in the topic
TFOAF just to save your ass a little
offers4money i can't login
TFOAF O_O
offers4money i would though
TFOAF why
TFOAF why can't you login
offers4money im on this laptop, it can't login to any site
offers4money s
TFOAF O_O
offers4money its really secure or something
TFOAF wow[/quotebfb1533dca]
Yeah, so just be patient. You'll get paid back. There's nothing to worry about. He seems like a really nice guy when I talk to him. )

-Craig

dmorris68

21-12-2006 20:16:55

[quotee5187f69f6="TFOAF"]Alrighty. So I spoke to him on AIM. He's been out of state, and he said AIM wouldn't work there. So, he hopes to refund everybody. David, please do not ban him. I trust him. Everyone here should trust him. HE WILL REFUND YOU. Patience is the key.

[quotee5187f69f6]TFOAF You might wanna post in the topic
TFOAF just to save your ass a little
offers4money i can't login
TFOAF O_O
offers4money i would though
TFOAF why
TFOAF why can't you login
offers4money im on this laptop, it can't login to any site
offers4money s
TFOAF O_O
offers4money its really secure or something
TFOAF wow[/quotee5187f69f6][/quotee5187f69f6]
So he can AIM from this "secure" laptop, but can't login to FiPG? Not sure I can buy that. Why would FiPG be blocked unless he was behind a business firewall or something? And those will usually block AIM as well.

[quotee5187f69f6="TFOAF"]Yeah, so just be patient. You'll get paid back. There's nothing to worry about. He seems like a really nice guy when I talk to him. )[/quotee5187f69f6]
Yeah, well, cams874 seemed all nice and sorry when he was cornered, and look at what he pulled. Lots of scammers "act" nice and as if they want to make amends, only to drag things out and put things off until some point -- usually when they've got the freebies they were waiting for -- and then they bail out. So far his behavior is pretty textbook for that sort of thing.

The only thing that has saved him from a ban is that he is slowly repaying people. As long as he continues repaying, [ie5187f69f6]and finishes up pretty damn quickly,[/ie5187f69f6] I'll hold off the ban. But, when you talk to him, you need to impress upon him the need to get his butt to a cybercafe, hotel, library, or something and login here to answer people.

zr2152

21-12-2006 20:59:12

no matter if he's busy or not, it takes 10 seconds to log into paypal and hit the refund button..... now come on, be busy is no excuse.

Aurelius

22-12-2006 22:44:42

Dont' count on getting any money back from him. $87 dollars down the f'n drain... Goddamn... Scammers totally ruining everything...

After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the Buyer
Complaint described below.

We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds
from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery
of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.

TFOAF

23-12-2006 05:28:44

[quotee767332873="Aurelius"]Dont' count on getting any money back from him. $87 dollars down the f'n drain... Goddamn... Scammers totally ruining everything...

After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the Buyer
Complaint described below.

We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds
from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery
of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.[/quotee767332873]
He told me he has to refill his PayPal account. He had/has $0 in it right now, he's getting more money put in. If he has $0, PayPal can't recover anything. ;)

Aurelius

23-12-2006 12:15:03

[quote3402771904="TFOAF"][quote3402771904="Aurelius"]Dont' count on getting any money back from him. $87 dollars down the f'n drain... Goddamn... Scammers totally ruining everything...

After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the Buyer
Complaint described below.

We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds
from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery
of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.[/quote3402771904]
He told me he has to refill his PayPal account. He had/has $0 in it right now, he's getting more money put in. If he has $0, PayPal can't recover anything. ;)[/quote3402771904]

well hopefully i'll get a refund despite this. Losing $87 is a hard pill to swallow because that's basically all the profit from doing one freebie site.

Menotti

23-12-2006 12:28:07

[quote08619c3745="Aurelius"]Dont' count on getting any money back from him. $87 dollars down the f'n drain... Goddamn... Scammers totally ruining everything...

After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the Buyer
Complaint described below.

We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds
from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery
of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.[/quote08619c3745]

Wow, that's bogus. In your favor but don't give you money back? What the hell is that?

TFOAF

23-12-2006 12:42:53

[quote5cab3149bd="Menotti"][quote5cab3149bd="Aurelius"]Dont' count on getting any money back from him. $87 dollars down the f'n drain... Goddamn... Scammers totally ruining everything...

After careful review, we have concluded our investigation of the Buyer
Complaint described below.

We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds
from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery
of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.[/quote5cab3149bd]

Wow, that's bogus. In your favor but don't give you money back? What the hell is that?[/quote5cab3149bd]
Read my previous post.

PayPal can't return money to you if there's nothing in his account. That's like going to a bank, and asking to withdraw $100, when there's $0 in the account. There's no way it can be done, until it's refilled.

jdizzle314

23-12-2006 14:19:28

Make all your payments for trades with CC is all i got to say that way if you get scammed Bam call credit card copmany and i guartee you will get your money back regarless if they have a million bucks or 1 penny.

Menotti

23-12-2006 22:47:23

[quote9329d2573f="jdizzle314"]Make all your payments for trades with CC is all i got to say that way if you get scammed Bam call credit card copmany and i guartee you will get your money back regarless if they have a million bucks or 1 penny.[/quote9329d2573f]

Yup, I'll go that route if PayPal can't get me my money back.

<3 AmEx

dmorris68

24-12-2006 08:50:10

Just be advised that if you reverse a PayPal payment through your CC without going through a PayPal dispute, be prepared to lose your PayPal account. They don't take kindly to losing their own money, which is what would happen (your CC will chargeback against PayPal, not the scammer). I believe they cover this in their terms.

So you'd need to consider if it's worth losing your PayPal account for $20 or whatever.

Menotti

24-12-2006 08:54:44

[quotef2fd5d53d9="dmorris68"]Just be advised that if you reverse a PayPal payment through your CC without going through a PayPal dispute, be prepared to lose your PayPal account. They don't take kindly to losing their own money, which is what would happen (your CC will chargeback against PayPal, not the scammer). I believe they cover this in their terms.

So you'd need to consider if it's worth losing your PayPal account for $20 or whatever.[/quotef2fd5d53d9]

What if I try a dispute first and it fails? Do I have a case?

dmorris68

24-12-2006 10:21:38

[quoted06f67c573="Menotti"][quoted06f67c573="dmorris68"]Just be advised that if you reverse a PayPal payment through your CC without going through a PayPal dispute, be prepared to lose your PayPal account. They don't take kindly to losing their own money, which is what would happen (your CC will chargeback against PayPal, not the scammer). I believe they cover this in their terms.

So you'd need to consider if it's worth losing your PayPal account for $20 or whatever.[/quoted06f67c573]

What if I try a dispute first and it fails? Do I have a case?[/quoted06f67c573]
Probably not. If PayPal determines (right or wrong) that you are not due a refund, they still won't like you reversing the charge through your CC.

I'm not saying don't do it, if it's enough money then it's probably worth it, I'm just saying that IIRC their terms of service state that you agree not pursue CC chargebacks against PayPal, instead agreeing to abide by their dispute process. But go read their terms to be sure.

Menotti

24-12-2006 10:58:51

[quote58a9bb1a0b="dmorris68"][quote58a9bb1a0b="Menotti"][quote58a9bb1a0b="dmorris68"]Just be advised that if you reverse a PayPal payment through your CC without going through a PayPal dispute, be prepared to lose your PayPal account. They don't take kindly to losing their own money, which is what would happen (your CC will chargeback against PayPal, not the scammer). I believe they cover this in their terms.

So you'd need to consider if it's worth losing your PayPal account for $20 or whatever.[/quote58a9bb1a0b]

What if I try a dispute first and it fails? Do I have a case?[/quote58a9bb1a0b]
Probably not. If PayPal determines (right or wrong) that you are not due a refund, they still won't like you reversing the charge through your CC.

I'm not saying don't do it, if it's enough money then it's probably worth it, I'm just saying that IIRC their terms of service state that you agree not pursue CC chargebacks against PayPal, instead agreeing to abide by their dispute process. But go read their terms to be sure.[/quote58a9bb1a0b]

Gotcha. I'll read em and let this thread know what the deal is.

Aurelius

26-12-2006 14:28:26

Anyone hear/get anything from him recently?

Menotti

27-12-2006 07:37:57

[quote962b3f8e5e="Aurelius"]Anyone hear/get anything from him recently?[/quote962b3f8e5e]

His away msg for the last day or so has been "i am away"

I've left him a few IMs but no response.

TFOAF

27-12-2006 08:33:47

[quote926c226d06="Menotti"][quote926c226d06="Aurelius"]Anyone hear/get anything from him recently?[/quote926c226d06]

His away msg for the last day or so has been "i am away"

I've left him a few IMs but no response.[/quote926c226d06]
If he was there, he'd respond. I havn't received any responses either. I think we should give him a few more days, as this week is a holiday.

Menotti

27-12-2006 09:34:57

[quote66a0d1cd6c="TFOAF"][quote66a0d1cd6c="Menotti"][quote66a0d1cd6c="Aurelius"]Anyone hear/get anything from him recently?[/quote66a0d1cd6c]

His away msg for the last day or so has been "i am away"

I've left him a few IMs but no response.[/quote66a0d1cd6c]
If he was there, he'd respond. I havn't received any responses either. I think we should give him a few more days, as this week is a holiday.[/quote66a0d1cd6c]

I suppose, but he's gone to and from idle status a few times.

TFOAF

27-12-2006 11:42:16

[quote203e0b8186="Menotti"][quote203e0b8186="TFOAF"][quote203e0b8186="Menotti"][quote203e0b8186="Aurelius"]Anyone hear/get anything from him recently?[/quote203e0b8186]

His away msg for the last day or so has been "i am away"

I've left him a few IMs but no response.[/quote203e0b8186]
If he was there, he'd respond. I havn't received any responses either. I think we should give him a few more days, as this week is a holiday.[/quote203e0b8186]

I suppose, but he's gone to and from idle status a few times.[/quote203e0b8186]
Doesn't mean he's there. That happens to many people.

Menotti

27-12-2006 18:19:00

[quotec7a966a33d]We have decided in your favor, however, we were unable to recover any funds
from the seller's account. As stated in the PayPal User Agreement, recovery
of funds associated with a Buyer Complaint cannot be guaranteed.[/quotec7a966a33d]

TFOAF

27-12-2006 18:31:09

As I had stated before, that happened because he has no money available in his PayPal account. Once he refills it, he will refund us all.

Menotti

27-12-2006 23:13:41

[quote17864684aa="TFOAF"]As I had stated before, that happened because he has no money available in his PayPal account. Once he refills it, he will refund us all.[/quote17864684aa]

You've sounded very confident about this. I hope you're right, because if I had numerous claims filed against me, I wouldn't stay in hiding like he has.

Aurelius

27-12-2006 23:25:16

[quote1068a5e5f3="Menotti"][quote1068a5e5f3="TFOAF"]As I had stated before, that happened because he has no money available in his PayPal account. Once he refills it, he will refund us all.[/quote1068a5e5f3]

You've sounded very confident about this. I hope you're right, because if I had numerous claims filed against me, I wouldn't stay in hiding like he has.[/quote1068a5e5f3]

Yup. As much as I'd like my $82 back, I have a feeling it's probably not going to happen.

Menotti

31-12-2006 15:06:04

He's been online for 6 days...no response at all

TFOAF

01-01-2007 09:09:07

[quote12577bff3b="Menotti"]He's been online for 6 days...no response at all[/quote12577bff3b]
Which means he's probably on vacation. His away message was never taken off.

Menotti

01-01-2007 15:01:37

[quoteb8172e2640="TFOAF"][quoteb8172e2640="Menotti"]He's been online for 6 days...no response at all[/quoteb8172e2640]
Which means he's probably on vacation. His away message was never taken off.[/quoteb8172e2640]

7 days now. If he was going on vacation, why wouldn't he tell anyone? Why are you so quick to defend him? It's been more than 2 [bb8172e2640]weeks[/bb8172e2640] already with nary a peep.

123StuffForFree

02-01-2007 10:56:10

I noticed his AIM account online. The person replied that it wasn't Jason and that Jason would be back on January 7.

-Dave

Menotti

02-01-2007 10:59:06

[quote33e1cf7b1e="123StuffForFree"]I noticed his AIM account online. The person replied that it wasn't Jason and that Jason would be back on January 7.

-Dave[/quote33e1cf7b1e]

I hope you're right. I left his screen name a bunch of messages but never heard anything.

d11m

02-01-2007 11:02:02

He's still not banned yet?

TFOAF

02-01-2007 12:32:55

[quotee5985695ee="123StuffForFree"]I noticed his AIM account online. The person replied that it wasn't Jason and that Jason would be back on January 7.

-Dave[/quotee5985695ee]
Thank you for letting us know this.

[quotee5985695ee="d11m"]He's still not banned yet?[/quotee5985695ee]
Be patient, will ya? Thanks. He doesn't need to be banned, if you read 123's post, he's not back until the 7th.

chrome89k

02-01-2007 20:49:51

[quote0b4cbdded1="Menotti"]I paid Jasone89 for 3 referrals. 3 trades set up @ $25 each. He has since not contacted me and all of my attempts to contact him have not worked.[/quote0b4cbdded1]

how do u pay someone for 3 referrals.... i thought only one per person...

ie... i get TOM to sign up under my link... he does 3 full credit offers... do i get 3 referral points?

chrome89k

02-01-2007 20:52:29

[quote896b63c8be="Aurelius"][quote896b63c8be="Menotti"][quote896b63c8be="TFOAF"]As I had stated before, that happened because he has no money available in his PayPal account. Once he refills it, he will refund us all.[/quote896b63c8be]

You've sounded very confident about this. I hope you're right, because if I had numerous claims filed against me, I wouldn't stay in hiding like he has.[/quote896b63c8be]

Yup. As much as I'd like my $82 back, I have a feeling it's probably not going to happen.[/quote896b63c8be]

ps WOW someone actually lost 82 bux... wut happens if a person scams someone.... refuses to give money back... and they just chalk it up as... o well i cant get my freebie but i got 82 bux... i wish there was some way to ensure safetyCOMPLETEly... someone i paid on a4f forums still has not greened... been almost 3 weeks probably.. with a4f down im having a hard time.. and hes NEVER ONLINE

TFOAF

03-01-2007 07:39:03

[quote21e8bc3a6d="chrome89k"][quote21e8bc3a6d="Menotti"]I paid Jasone89 for 3 referrals. 3 trades set up @ $25 each. He has since not contacted me and all of my attempts to contact him have not worked.[/quote21e8bc3a6d]

how do u pay someone for 3 referrals.... i thought only one per person...

ie... i get TOM to sign up under my link... he does 3 full credit offers... do i get 3 referral points?[/quote21e8bc3a6d]
Can you please stop multi-posting, and edit your damn posts?

And you pay a person for three referrals on the same site, when they get friends or family to do it. ;)

Menotti

03-01-2007 08:53:07

[quote801c4491c6="TFOAF"][quote801c4491c6="chrome89k"][quote801c4491c6="Menotti"]I paid Jasone89 for 3 referrals. 3 trades set up @ $25 each. He has since not contacted me and all of my attempts to contact him have not worked.[/quote801c4491c6]

how do u pay someone for 3 referrals.... i thought only one per person...

ie... i get TOM to sign up under my link... he does 3 full credit offers... do i get 3 referral points?[/quote801c4491c6]
Can you please stop multi-posting, and edit your damn posts?

And you pay a person for three referrals on the same site, when they get friends or family to do it. ;)[/quote801c4491c6]

exactly.

TFOAF

07-01-2007 05:06:25

Okay. Well, today's the 7th. We'll see what happens. )

Menotti

09-01-2007 10:27:56

Haven't seen him online and have received any other contact from him now. I better get my greens or my refund soon.

TFOAF

09-01-2007 16:24:43

Shit. Where the fuck did he go? I don't see him on AIM anymore. He better come back. Fucking $66 he owes me.

TFOAF

10-01-2007 15:29:29

Okay.

I just spoke with his cousin. He told me he will be back Sunday. We'll see what happens.

zr2152

10-01-2007 18:24:49

[quotec358307906="TFOAF"]Okay.

I just spoke with his cousin. He told me he will be back Sunday. We'll see what happens.[/quotec358307906]

I feel like HIS COUSIN is telling you a bunch of bull and that he is not going to return and refund us. Didnt someone say that he would have been back last sunday?

I feel like hes just delaying, but I hope in all this delaying he is trying to get our money for us.

Menotti

11-01-2007 01:32:18

[quote47890a8446="TFOAF"]Okay.

I just spoke with his cousin. He told me he will be back Sunday. We'll see what happens.[/quote47890a8446]

How are you speaking to his cousin? Wasn't he to be back on the 7th?

TFOAF

11-01-2007 10:51:06

[quote3d594e79f9="Menotti"][quote3d594e79f9="TFOAF"]Okay.

I just spoke with his cousin. He told me he will be back Sunday. We'll see what happens.[/quote3d594e79f9]

How are you speaking to his cousin? Wasn't he to be back on the 7th?[/quote3d594e79f9]
Nope. Apparently he's coming back this Sunday.

TFOAF

14-01-2007 16:27:24

I've done some in-depth research on our good 'ol friend Jason. And well, uh...GREAT SUCCESS! D

If you have AIM, contact me regarding your problem. I have information that will be of much use to you/us. D

TFOAF

15-01-2007 11:03:38

Okay. New news. I'm assuming Jason is going to post sometime today. He really was away, due to a family emergency during break. He got home late last night. Thanks to all of you who filed PayPal disputes, his account is suspended. But he said he's going to pay everyone back once the bank transfer is completed.

He'll post more details later.

Aurelius

15-01-2007 11:42:16

Very darn good to hear. Thank you very much, TFOAF. +kma to you for being a persistent bitch (in a good way D)

zr2152

16-01-2007 23:03:27

wtf mate

TFOAF

17-01-2007 15:08:55

lisighli

Okay. I spoke to him again. He said that PayPal is allowing him to withdraw the money. As soon as it clears with his bank (3 to 4 days), he's going to pay his friend cash, and use his friend's PayPal account to send us the money.

Folks, there's nothing to worry about here.

zr2152

17-01-2007 15:35:06

[quote226e1797c1="TFOAF"]lisighli

Okay. I spoke to him again. He said that PayPal is allowing him to withdraw the money. As soon as it clears with his bank (3 to 4 days), he's going to pay his friend cash, and use his friend's PayPal account to send us the money.

Folks, there's nothing to worry about here.[/quote226e1797c1]

yeah i know chris, but look at it from my perspective...ive been told hes bene busy for about a month now...kinda reminds me of Traxio Mike-saying that he was going to ship out my gift for months (have yet to recieve it)

Jasone89

18-01-2007 15:13:48

Hello everyone,
Heres the story
Firstly, i would like to apologize to everyone that has been waiting for greens or a refund. I am very sorry for this and i have not intended for any of this to happen.

As soon as my winter break started, I went on a vacation out of the state. I forgot to post on the forums, because I forgot about the current trades i had. Im sure some of you can understand this. I am sorry for this and will make it up to all. During the end of the vacation, a family crisis occured. I was unable to go back to home because of the crisis. I was unable to get to a computer or anything at all.

Due to the complaints i recieved on my paypal account, my account became limited, i cannot send nor recieve funds. But yesterday i was able to withdraw to a newly added bank account. This process is stated to take 3-4 business days. As soon as this clears into my bank, i will give the cash to a friend so that they can send the paypal to the people I owe. once this is completed i will be able to restore my paypal account.

I would like to thank TFOAF for helping me out, thinking positive, and trying to figure the situation out. Maybe my words arent sufficient enough as of now, but within the next few days I will restoring the debts that i owe. Thanks mods for not banning me yet, i will put everything in order ASAP.

Sorry again for this long inconvenience. I never meant for it to go so long, its not like i usually trade (you can ask the people under my tr).

Im working on this situation now, as my top priority. If you have any questions, comments, or concerns, dont hesitate to aim me or pm me.

Thanks

Menotti

18-01-2007 16:09:30

Thanks for finally getting back to us. If everything you're saying is genuine, I apologize for filing a claim. I'm sure you understand our situation as we will understand your's.

If you make good on everything, I think everyone here would do their best to restore your PayPal status.

TFOAF

21-01-2007 06:53:31

[bc445b7bc41]UPDATE[/bc445b7bc41]

Jason said the withdrawal should be cleared hopefully by Monday. He'll then send us the money he owes us ASAP. ;)

-Craig

zr2152

21-01-2007 11:46:45

[quote577e7fda0f="TFOAF"][b577e7fda0f]UPDATE[/b577e7fda0f]

Jason said the withdrawal should be cleared hopefully by Monday. He'll then send us the money he owes us ASAP. ;)

-Craig[/quote577e7fda0f]

I sure as hell hope so ?

Aurelius

21-01-2007 14:44:45

Weehee!!! That $87 bucks is going to go a long way. )

zr2152

25-01-2007 11:56:52

nada

Menotti

25-01-2007 16:18:35

still waiting here too.

TryinToGetPaid

25-01-2007 16:34:34

Still need 50 dollars.

TFOAF

25-01-2007 18:26:12

lisighli

Patience is a virtue.

Menotti

28-01-2007 11:35:43

[quote02723a9a9a="TFOAF"]lisighli

Patience is a virtue.[/quote02723a9a9a]

While I appreciate all the work you've done, TFOAF, please don't sigh when people make updates on their status with this individual. Yes, he's come back and said he is going to repay us, but if we wait for another contact, this thread gets buried. Us updating everyone with our status once in a while makes sure that this [b02723a9a9a]unresolved[/b02723a9a9a] issue is still fresh with everyone.

I know he's supposedly had a bad experience that's prevented him from greening/paying us back, but I've left him numerous messages on AIM since he's returned from his family crisis, and he hasn't answered me once. He doesn't have a problem changing his away message, though.

TFOAF, why does he only talk to you? You always come on this thread and say "don't worry" etc etc. I'd like for him to keep us updated on his status, not you.

TFOAF

28-01-2007 12:42:12

I'm speaking with him now. He can't pay via PayPal, but he can pay via Credit Card. So what I did was, I made a "Buy Now" button through PayPal, and uploaded the code to a server, which then I give him the link to. He can then pay via Credit Card. Only one problem...when he tried to send the PAYMENT, it said his Credit Card can't be used for this purchase.

So right at this moment, we're thinking of a way to get this to work.

Menotti

30-01-2007 19:14:32

[quotee4e421e46d="TFOAF"]I'm speaking with him now. He can't pay via PayPal, but he can pay via Credit Card. So what I did was, I made a "Buy Now" button through PayPal, and uploaded the code to a server, which then I give him the link to. He can then pay via Credit Card. Only one problem...when he tried to send the PAYMENT, it said his Credit Card can't be used for this purchase.

So right at this moment, we're thinking of a way to get this to work.[/quotee4e421e46d]

It's called he can talk to someone else besides you, get our info, and send us money orders.

Aurelius

31-01-2007 23:24:56

Well... I guess we aren't getting paid after all? What's happening here?

Menotti

01-02-2007 07:41:06

[quotef693fd77d5="Aurelius"]Well... I guess we aren't getting paid after all? What's happening here?[/quotef693fd77d5]

Jasone, for some reason, only seems to talk to TFOAF

?

dmorris68

01-02-2007 08:05:45

Jason better talk to an admin by the end of the day, or he's banned.

This crap has gone on long enough. More than long enough.

TFOAF

01-02-2007 18:41:04

TFOAF Jason!
Auto response from Jasone1989 really sick, will try to get bak to all asap, just leave a message.

Powerbook

02-02-2007 03:47:13

[quote7c1ba30aaf="TFOAF"]TFOAF Jason!
Auto response from Jasone1989 really sick, will try to get bak to all asap, just leave a message.[/quote7c1ba30aaf]

Sounds like he is just a fucking teen who could care less. Message him everyone. If you have his info give him a call. Just because his paypal does not work that is not an excuse. A money order would even work.

nobody2000

03-02-2007 09:40:38

OK, I used to talk to Jason everyday to discuss freebie business, but I've scaled back my freebie efforts and we've since stopped talking as frequently.

Yes, he's a teen. He's in high school. As you know, late January is exam time. I'm sure this occupied much of his time. Yes, he should be responsible enough to tell someone, but just throwing that out there.

Also, he said he's on vacation, and he got sick. Even being sick, he could conduct business, but give him time to sleep.

He's not out to scam anyone. I've trusted him with thousands of dollars (over time, not at once) and have received everything back and then some. Sometimes people just get caught up with stupid shit.

Now, I understand his paypal situation.

A friend of his (real life friend) fucked him over for $big buck$ on paypal, and filed a credit card chargeback after getting the cash. This disabled his first checking-account linked paypal account.

Even with obligations, he managed to get another checking acct hooked up to a new paypal acct. He conducted a lot of business, and now, apparently, that's ruined because people filed Paypal chargebacks and limited his account.

Now, he needs to set up a new account to make things right. This takes time, especially considering this is his THIRD checking account to link with paypal. You guys should be patient if you want your money. I know that it IS his responsibility, and you have every right to be pissed off, but I know that overall, Jason is trustworthy, and you'll get your money once he gets things straightened out himself.

zr2152

03-02-2007 11:39:50

I get exactly what youre saying but it gets tiring to hear that hell pay us back or hell do this or that and not coming through.

Im just hearing the same old shit and its never gettting done.

Thats what pisses me off. I trusted him with my $30 and he dicked me over. He ignores my AIMS and PMS, thats what pisses me off.

Aurelius

03-02-2007 12:40:47

At this point, we can't do anything but wait and see. If he isn't seen around these parts anyway, what's the point of banning and killing even the tiniest chance he'll come back and repay us? He owes me 87 bucks so I want my money just as much as you.

Powerbook

03-02-2007 14:10:43

None of the above excuses him from his duties. He should at least post here. Posting takes 1 second. The current problem is that he has screwed up big time and he doesn't know how to solve this. It would help if he would post here. It doesn't seem like he just tried to scam all of you, it seems as if he cannot think of what to do, and perhaps he has no money. However, that is his problem and he needs to fix it ASAP. This has gone for way too long. It seems as if he bullshitted all of you with his excuses, and now he actually has a a real reason why he can't do shit. Tough luck Jason. Fix it. I wish you all the best luck in getting your money back.

dmorris68

03-02-2007 19:58:35

After my last post saying he needed to contact an admin, he PM'd me and basically gave me the same info being said above.

I told him that, while I sympathize with his circumstances, it doesn't absolve him of his obligations. I also suggested, even before it was mentioned above, that he could snail mail money orders to people if he couldn't figure out another method. At the very least he needs to post here.

I've not heard from him since. My patience is growing thin so he needs to make amends quickly. He's been given plenty of slack here, but it only goes so far.

Powerbook

04-02-2007 06:06:50

[quote544f4cc38a="dmorris68"]After my last post saying he needed to contact an admin, he PM'd me and basically gave me the same info being said above.

I told him that, while I sympathize with his circumstances, it doesn't absolve him of his obligations. I also suggested, even before it was mentioned above, that he could snail mail money orders to people if he couldn't figure out another method. At the very least he needs to post here.

I've not heard from him since. My patience is growing thin so he needs to make amends quickly. He's been given plenty of slack here, but it only goes so far.[/quote544f4cc38a]

I agree with you 100%. There are many times in life when things just do not work out. You still have to deal with it and get it done. If he truly does not know what to do, you guys can help him and a solution could be reached. I do not see why the money order route would not work. Maybe he doesn't have any money because he spent all of it. Anyways, best of luck guys.

IllBuyReffs

04-02-2007 09:08:40

I'm not involved with anything going on here, but I've had troubles with Jason before, too, a while ago. It wasn't too intense, but it DID involve him not getting a job done within a long period of time. Just putting that out there.

Jasone89

05-02-2007 15:32:10

im really sorry about all this, it has definitely been too long. the reason i had been not online, is because ive been quite sick. the reason ive been struggling to pay back is because my paypal account is limited. Im looking for a solution to send money by paypal but all i can use is my credit card. If you have any immediate solution that will allow me to charge my credit card, to be able to get the funds into paypal, pleease let me know. this is the same credit card thats on file with my paypal. If you or anyone else has for example a google checkout account, we can setup a payment from my card for the reciever to send paypal to those that i owe. As soon as something like this gets figured out, all refunds will be sent the same day. please pm back, as i truly do want to resolve this asap.
as soon as i get a solution to being able to charge my credit card somwehere and getting funds out to those i owe, it will be done same day.
I have called paypal, and they said i need to verify my account more, add new bank, add social, send forms that validate me, before i can remove the limitation and get access back to the account. Please, someone pm me as soon as there is a solution while i am trying to work with paypal to get my limitation off.

Jasone89

05-02-2007 15:36:10

sorry for the double post, but im thinking of buying a simon giftcard, and then adding the funds to a new account, and then sending them that way. does anyone know if this would work?
thanks

TFOAF

13-02-2007 15:40:53

Bump...okay it's been more than a week again...no contact. Fuck. He's probably busy again. O_o

At this point I'd rather just have a check.

Menotti

13-02-2007 15:43:14

[quote09a825c067="jasone89"]sorry for the double post, but im thinking of buying a simon giftcard, and then adding the funds to a new account, and then sending them that way. does anyone know if this would work?
thanks[/quote09a825c067]

Just snail mail money orders to people, much easier. Oh, and answer our IMs and PMs too.

Aurelius

13-02-2007 20:29:37

seriously.. and if you can buy simon giftcards... just buy one for each of us and we can figure stuff out from there...

Menotti

17-02-2007 07:50:53

Response would be appreciate, Jasone.

Menotti

21-02-2007 15:17:53

fyi...
[quoteca64b08e5b]
Ode1085 (61302 PM) hey man
offers4money (61324 PM) hey, im out of the country on cruise.
offers4money (61330 PM) will b back monday
offers4money (61335 PM) as soon as i do
offers4money (61337 PM) i will post
offers4money (61342 PM) can't stay long
offers4money (61356 PM) sorry for the long situation
Ode1085 (61404 PM) ok.
offers4money (61413 PM) if anything email me
offers4money (61416 PM) email==jasone89@gmail.comjasone89@gmail.com=jasone89@gmail.comjasone89@gmail.com/email[/quoteca64b08e5b]

zr2152

22-02-2007 13:04:20

[quote28a3018bda="Menotti"]fyi...
[quote28a3018bda]
Ode1085 (61302 PM) hey man
offers4money (61324 PM) hey, im out of the country on cruise.
offers4money (61330 PM) will b back monday
offers4money (61335 PM) as soon as i do
offers4money (61337 PM) i will post
offers4money (61342 PM) can't stay long
offers4money (61356 PM) sorry for the long situation
Ode1085 (61404 PM) ok.
offers4money (61413 PM) if anything email me
offers4money (61416 PM) email==jasone89@gmail.comjasone89@gmail.com=jasone89@gmail.comjasone89@gmail.com/email[/quote28a3018bda][/quote28a3018bda]

bullshit.

Aurelius

22-02-2007 17:19:37

We can't do anything about it anyways. He's not using the site so I don't see what banning him will do. Just wait it out, I guess.

zr2152

23-02-2007 00:28:02

[quote114d3e83a3="Aurelius"]We can't do anything about it anyways. He's not using the site so I don't see what banning him will do. Just wait it out, I guess.[/quote114d3e83a3]

YEah i know, i guess once he gets funds then maybe he can repay us, but i doubt that will happen.

I think that TFOAF still talks to him.

TFOAF

23-02-2007 11:00:12

I havn't had contact with him since last week. He's on a cruise is he? Eheheh. He's got some explaining to do. ) licoughli

Menotti

27-02-2007 16:16:38

[quote6f679ca585="TFOAF"]I havn't had contact with him since last week. He's on a cruise is he? Eheheh. He's got some explaining to do. ) licoughli[/quote6f679ca585]

You know something we don't?

TFOAF

01-03-2007 14:43:30

[quote135f19ecdc="Menotti"][quote135f19ecdc="TFOAF"]I havn't had contact with him since last week. He's on a cruise is he? Eheheh. He's got some explaining to do. ) licoughli[/quote135f19ecdc]

You know something we don't?[/quote135f19ecdc]
Nope. I've been trying to contact him for the past week...and he's not responding. It doesn't appear as if he's available right now. \

Menotti

14-03-2007 09:22:04

[quote8734f65af7="TFOAF"][quote8734f65af7="Menotti"][quote8734f65af7="TFOAF"]I havn't had contact with him since last week. He's on a cruise is he? Eheheh. He's got some explaining to do. ) licoughli[/quote8734f65af7]

You know something we don't?[/quote8734f65af7]
Nope. I've been trying to contact him for the past week...and he's not responding. It doesn't appear as if he's available right now. \[/quote8734f65af7]

Well, I'm almost completely fed up with this guy. I haven't heard jack squat from him in forever, and his sob story looks less and less viable each day. We have his personal contact info, I think I'm going to use it soon.

KeithA

14-03-2007 09:39:34

Why wait?

zr2152

14-03-2007 11:11:03

[quote7b27f694a6="Menotti"][quote7b27f694a6="TFOAF"][quote7b27f694a6="Menotti"][quote7b27f694a6="TFOAF"]I havn't had contact with him since last week. He's on a cruise is he? Eheheh. He's got some explaining to do. ) licoughli[/quote7b27f694a6]

You know something we don't?[/quote7b27f694a6]
Nope. I've been trying to contact him for the past week...and he's not responding. It doesn't appear as if he's available right now. \[/quote7b27f694a6]

Well, I'm almost completely fed up with this guy. I haven't heard jack squat from him in forever, and his sob story looks less and less viable each day. We have his personal contact info, I think I'm going to use it soon.[/quote7b27f694a6]

let me know what and when you are going to do with his information, ill back you up 100%.

Feel free to PM me.

dmorris68

14-03-2007 11:58:20

I agree. He's had more chances to step up than anybody in recent history, and I kick myself for not banning him when I first threatened to. TFOAF, wake up and smell the roses -- you've all been had.

He last logged in Feb 5th and didn't read the PM's he had from me, nor apparently did he make good on his obligations.

Buh-bye...

TFOAF

15-03-2007 16:28:52

I've still had contact with him, even though it was minimal. All I can say is, he still says he's going to pay us back. He wants to, and he says he's not a scammer. HE WANTS TO. Whatever, maybe you guys don't trust him, but when I get paid back, you'll see.

Menotti

20-03-2007 16:07:31

[quote656f3cbaf4="TFOAF"]I've still had contact with him, even though it was minimal. All I can say is, he still says he's going to pay us back. He wants to, and he says he's not a scammer. HE WANTS TO. Whatever, maybe you guys don't trust him, but when I get paid back, you'll see.[/quote656f3cbaf4]

More and more it seems like you're in with him. You're (1) the only person he really talks to (2) always fighting for him (3) the only one who says he is paying us back

TFOAF - post his contact info you obtained. If not, I'll dig for it and post it.

Menotti

09-04-2007 15:17:20

update TFOAF IMed me and told me that Jasone is paying people back "soon"

We'll see

TFOAF

09-04-2007 17:44:58

[quotefc17a1beb2="Menotti"][quotefc17a1beb2="TFOAF"]I've still had contact with him, even though it was minimal. All I can say is, he still says he's going to pay us back. He wants to, and he says he's not a scammer. HE WANTS TO. Whatever, maybe you guys don't trust him, but when I get paid back, you'll see.[/quotefc17a1beb2]

More and more it seems like you're in with him. You're (1) the only person he really talks to (2) always fighting for him (3) the only one who says he is paying us back

TFOAF - post his contact info you obtained. If not, I'll dig for it and post it.[/quotefc17a1beb2]
I would post it...but Jason doesn't want me to, and that's kind of invading his privacy.

[quotefc17a1beb2="Menotti"]update TFOAF IMed me and told me that Jasone is paying people back "soon"

We'll see[/quotefc17a1beb2]
Yeah, the withdrawal from his bank account should be completed soon, and he'll then be able to pay us back. He has an entirely new PayPal account, so everything should be AOK. D

dupebag

09-04-2007 18:18:22

I just wasted 10 minutes of my time reading through the whole topic...and i think that something fishy is going on..why is that dude only talking to TROAF ( who is the only one expecting to get money back ) from what ive heard i doubt you will get your money back ( sorry to say ). The guy keeps pushing the date back more and more for a reason..so why should you believe him?

zr2152

10-04-2007 13:06:15

Ill hold onto hope for $30 bucks.

Menotti

28-04-2007 17:47:07

TFOAF, what is the deal, buddy?

Menotti

29-04-2007 15:17:38

Hey TFOAF, why do you personally know so many scammers?

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=60921

TFOAF

29-04-2007 16:16:36

...I don't know Jason personally...the only person here who I know PERSONALLY is KnightTrader, because he's a REAL LIFE friend. And even if I did...what if I knew all the thousands of people here personally...what would that prove?

I've lost contact with Jason for like a week, but I'm sure he'll come back. He's always talking to me.

zr2152

29-04-2007 17:45:55

[quote8a4e1af991="TFOAF"]...I don't know Jason personally...the only person here who I know PERSONALLY is KnightTrader, because he's a REAL LIFE friend. And even if I did...what if I knew all the thousands of people here personally...what would that prove?

I've lost contact with Jason for like a week, but I'm sure he'll come back. He's always talking to me.[/quote8a4e1af991]

I think you may need to stop being so damn nice all the time. A person CAN BE too nice. SOmetimes, especially with scammers, you need to be a dick beacuse they have your money and have totally lied to you.

If your friend lied to and shit, are you going to be nice to him? I sure as hell hope not because I know that if I was dicked over by a friend I would be pissed and wouldn'd be so passive.

SO start being a dick since you have so much contact with him. You are speaking for all of us.

cashssw

30-04-2007 15:47:57

I do not know what could have happened but I think maybe we should be grateful that TROAF is being nice enough to try and get us refunds.

Of course we never know the other side of the story, eh? But for all I know , he (Or she) has a high TR so I would not think they would be scamming anyone.

zr2152

01-05-2007 05:06:18

[quote8d3dd71875="cashssw"]I do not know what could have happened but I think maybe we should be grateful that TROAF is being nice enough to try and get us refunds.

Of course we never know the other side of the story, eh? But for all I know , he (Or she) has a high TR so I would not think they would be scamming anyone.[/quote8d3dd71875]

We know that TFOAF is not scamming us...nor do we think that he's playing us. ITs just that he is the only one with contact with Jason and we are getting tired of hearing " Please just be patient, hes going to pay you all back"

We are saying to post his personal shit and what not cause we are getting tired of delays

Menotti

03-05-2007 10:30:30

[quotefa82706457="zr2152"][quotefa82706457="cashssw"]I do not know what could have happened but I think maybe we should be grateful that TROAF is being nice enough to try and get us refunds.

Of course we never know the other side of the story, eh? But for all I know , he (Or she) has a high TR so I would not think they would be scamming anyone.[/quotefa82706457]

We know that TFOAF is not scamming us...nor do we think that he's playing us. ITs just that he is the only one with contact with Jason and we are getting tired of hearing " Please just be patient, hes going to pay you all back"

We are saying to post his personal shit and what not cause we are getting tired of delays[/quotefa82706457]

Agreed. I'm not going to let this go away.

zr2152

04-05-2007 09:24:44

Craig...are you going to post it or am i going to have to come to NJ and get it from you personally...its only a 3 hr drive for me and I can make it on 1 tank of gas.

zr2152

18-05-2007 22:19:46

wtf..post his information and stop being a pussy

TFOAF

19-05-2007 04:51:49

He hasn't been online for a while now. So I've lost contact...for now. He asked me NOT to post his information. You can search for it if you want, it's not that hard to find. But posting someone's private information over a "small" amount of cash is wrong.

zr2152

19-05-2007 07:35:54

and stealing money isnt?

TFOAF

19-05-2007 07:47:15

Most businesses won't sue unless it's like $1,000 or more. Otherwise they send people to collection agencies or they take the loss.

zr2152

19-05-2007 10:14:57

[quotecf43b94013="TFOAF"]Most businesses won't sue unless it's like $1,000 or more. Otherwise they send people to collection agencies or they take the loss.[/quotecf43b94013]

What the hell are you talking about!!! This isnt a business and im not sending anything to a collection agency. YOu have his information..im not going to take a loss. Its people like you who are passive about situations like these and allow scammers to run around stealing peoples money.

Im not going to be calling him and harassing him....i just want to know.

TFOAF

19-05-2007 10:32:01

And what would you do with his information? It's just not right...to post it.

zr2152

19-05-2007 11:23:28

[quotecbfb1cf406="TFOAF"]And what would you do with his information? It's just not right...to post it.[/quotecbfb1cf406]

wow.

Youre right. Its right for him to scam and steal money from us, great logic.

TFOAF

19-05-2007 11:45:17

I didn't say it was right. I don't want to argue with you. It's disrespectful to do that to someone. I don't think his parents want their household publicly displayed on the internet.

KeithA

19-05-2007 15:27:54

Harrassing the kid or his family would be wrong. But politely contacting him (or his parents) and inquiring about the status of his payments is certainly within everyone's rights given the situation.

Foafy said his info is fairly easy to find, so get on it

www.google.com[]www.google.com
www.switchboard.com[]www.switchboard.com

If anyone manages to get Jason's information and would like me to contact him, I'd be happy to. I think it's highly unlikely that he will make good on his commitments, but I am certain that we can put more pressure on him (in an appropriate way) than his pen pal has.

jdizzle314

19-05-2007 15:39:00

[quote97a037ffce="zr2152"][quote97a037ffce="TFOAF"]And what would you do with his information? It's just not right...to post it.[/quote97a037ffce]

wow.

Youre right. Its right for him to scam and steal money from us, great logic.[/quote97a037ffce]
I agree...Dont post it on the forum..give it to the people who have been scamed via Pm...