http://gaming.yourgiftsfree.com - BIGGEST SCAM YET! UNFAIR!!

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=45185

fabolousxwun

01-09-2006 16:48:23

As talking to the website owner of http//gaming.yourgiftsfree.com on AIM, he decided that he would do nothing but require photo ID's from all of my friends. He refused to give me my gift after I completed my offer and told my friends to complete an offer too. Out of all the offers, they all chose BlockBuster which is the only one teenagers might be interested in. He immiately assumed I created duplicate accounts. My friends were skeptical about this online gift thing before, so as of right now I lost my respect in their eyes. I'm very upset and will report this to the BBB soon if nothing is done by the website owner in this case.

DIABLO

01-09-2006 16:51:58

Just give him the IDs? -/ He probably sees some other reason besides you doing the same offer. Also, isn't BlockBuster 18 years+? He probably has some other evidence. I gave him the link to this via AIM. He'll probably explain soon.

tml09

01-09-2006 16:52:04

How many refs did you have?

AstonisheD

01-09-2006 17:00:36

if that was all that happened, seriously.. you cant put people on hold because all his/her refs did the same offer, you cant base holds on that, theres not enough proof.

but if something else thats not mentioned in the post, then idk.

of course you could just show him the ID's

TFOAF

01-09-2006 17:24:27

Uhh....I think YGF has some explaining to do. )

(Not that I'm taking anyone's side, unless that's all that really happened.)

KnightTrader

01-09-2006 19:08:50

hmm IMHO thats a bit unfair. He asked you to get all your referals to provide ID? I dunno if any of my friends / referals would do that for me if i was asked for it.

kidd2108

01-09-2006 19:32:54

[quote801295ec36="TFOAF"]Uhh....I think YGF has some explaining to do. )

(Not that I'm taking anyone's side, unless that's all that really happened.)[/quote801295ec36]

a guy with 1 post? could it be a past banned user upset with YGF?
lets see if YGF responds to this thread.

TFOAF

01-09-2006 19:46:50

Heheh. I didn't see how many posts he had. I didn't even bother to look. P

My bad...uhh...

Do you have proof of this, [be678d4fd69]fabolousxwun[/be678d4fd69]?

KnightTrader

01-09-2006 20:24:02

Why would he lie about not getting his item? Lets wait for YGF to respond.

DIABLO

01-09-2006 20:29:39

He probably signed up to post that it's a scam. It's probably on A4F too.

YourGiftsFree

01-09-2006 20:50:21

Hi,

First off, all your referrals and you did the same offer. Thats considered a walkthrough, I dont enforce it that much because it could happen to anyone. You guys lived within 5 minutes of eachother, not a violation at all because you refer FRIENDS. My affiliate contacted me, he gave me some users that blockbuster are very suspicious with. Also known as possible fraud. So all I requested was his and his refs ID. He can blur out any information I don't already have. So we have all of his refs and him doing the same offer, (walkthrough), they all live within 5 minutes of eachother and did the SAME offer,(raises suspicion), AND blockbuster labeled them for possible fraud.

junkie06

01-09-2006 20:56:20

not taking sides, but you have no way of knowing someone gave a walkthough simply by basicing it on the fact all his referrals did the same offer...someone can also give some one a walkthough for different offers but you stil have no way of knowing.

KnightTrader

01-09-2006 20:58:32

I say if your publisher takes away your commision then leave the guy on hold. Otherwise I don't see what it'll do. but overall its your call as the site admin.

kidd2108

01-09-2006 20:59:35

true, but according to him Blockbuster labeled them as possible fraud.

junkie06

01-09-2006 21:02:26

possible fraud....however affiliates that i have delt with will take away commission if there is fraud, they will never contact you and say its possible fraud with out taking away commission...
Since commission wasnt takin away and there is no proof that he walked his friends through is not fair to put him on hold.

YourGiftsFree

01-09-2006 21:06:31

All we request is his and his referrals ID. Affiliates DO investigate before revocation.

Killer722

01-09-2006 21:10:22

YGF asked me to do that the first time around, so i did and i recieved my gift. ) IMO, if you showed him the ID's, you should get your gift. I don't make the decisions around here.

AstonisheD

01-09-2006 21:14:01

ok about the blockbuster telling you they might have frauded.. but dude

you cannot say he did walkthroughs for all his friends.. you dont have proof, youre just assuming

YourGiftsFree

01-09-2006 21:23:44

Thats why I said, I dont enforce it that much because it could happen to anyone.

He has the chance to be taken off hold, but he isnt taking it.

kidd2108

01-09-2006 21:28:02

[quote90b5e104d3="YourGiftsFree"]Thats why I said, I dont enforce it that much because it could happen to anyone.

He has the chance to be taken off hold, but he isnt taking it.[/quote90b5e104d3]

I agree. The guy hasnt even comeback.

junkie06

01-09-2006 21:28:14

does it state anywhere in your tos, that you have the right to ask for ids??? I dont see that

YourGiftsFree

01-09-2006 21:32:34

No it doesnt, so it means im going out of my way to help him get off hold. I could easily say that he will not get off hold, but I am doing something I am not required to do by my TOS, giving him a chance to prove himself and his referrals.

junkie06

01-09-2006 21:43:25

so you put him on hold because of possible fraud....what constitue possible fraud, (i dont see that mentioned in your tos, that a user can be placed on hold because of "possible fraud")...the fact that all referrals did the same offers????? Which you believe he walked them through, with no proof.
Im not taking his side,i dont know the guy either, it just doesnt seem fair.
Oh well, this is none of my business, so i will stay out of this.

YourGiftsFree

01-09-2006 21:53:20

[quotef399c92abe="junkie06"]so you put him on hold because of possible fraud....what constitue possible fraud, (i dont see that mentioned in your tos, that a user can be placed on hold because of "possible fraud")...the fact that all referrals did the same offers????? Which you believe he walked them through, [bf399c92abe]with no proof.[/bf399c92abe]
Im not taking his side,i dont know the guy either, it just doesnt seem fair.
Oh well, this is none of my business, so i will stay out of this.[/quotef399c92abe]

Affiliates contacted me. If there is more questioning I will answer it in the morning. I will be on then.

Excel

01-09-2006 22:06:36

If Blockbuster contacted him about possible fraud, it could be a number of things... Perhaps they all used the same credit card, credit cards listed under the same name, listed the same mailing address, etc. I'm sure YGF has a legitimate reason, and it does say in TOS that he can place an account on hold for any reason he wants.

If the user is legitimate, it isn't an impossible request. Just get the IDs and send it in.

fabolousxwun

01-09-2006 22:33:00

They all live in FAIR LAWN, NJ ... and as I said BLOCKBUSTER is the only deal that people my age will be interested in ... all I gotta say is that I completed this the legit way but cannot disclose ID's of my friends - even if I blur information out their picture is still there, they dont agree to it! I can't believe I spent my money on the offers too. This is just so unfair !

DIABLO

01-09-2006 22:35:16

[quote16346376c2="fabolousxwun"]They all live in FAIR LAWN, NJ ... and as I said BLOCKBUSTER is the only deal that people my age will be interested in ... all I gotta say is that I completed this the legit way but cannot disclose ID's of my friends - even if I blur information out their picture is still there, they dont agree to it! I can't believe [b16346376c2]I spent my money on the offer[u16346376c2]s[/u16346376c2] too[/b16346376c2]. This is just so unfair ![/quote16346376c2]

? Exactly how old are you and these friends?

Tiphareth!

01-09-2006 22:39:27

YGF has to feed his cats somehow, lay-off him.

fabolousxwun

01-09-2006 22:40:53

I'm 18, but my friends signed up with their parents NAMES and CREDIT cards which is why most of them signed up as 1960 for birth dates! Exactly why I also cant supply IDs! I can't explain myself anymore than that, all I asked for was the money I worked hard for. Asking all these people to trust me with their credit info was NOT easy

Daggoth

01-09-2006 22:49:15

[quoteb72419e24c="fabolousxwun"]I'm 18, but my friends signed up with their parents NAMES and CREDIT cards which is why most of them signed up as 1960 for birth dates! Exactly why I also cant supply IDs! I can't explain myself anymore than that, all I asked for was the money I worked hard for. Asking all these people to trust me with their credit info was NOT easy[/quoteb72419e24c]

So now you are admitting that your friend's provided false information. Free4Me Network, a Grade A network on A4F, put people on hold for having an invalid phone number.

junkie06

01-09-2006 22:50:38

He said they used there parents information, how is that false???

compuguru

01-09-2006 22:50:45

[quotee23059e472="fabolousxwun"]I'm 18, but my friends signed up with their parents NAMES and CREDIT cards which is why most of them signed up as 1960 for birth dates!

<snip>

Asking all these people to trust me with their credit info was NOT easy[/quotee23059e472]

If they completed the offers themselves, why would you need their CC info? Or by trusting you, you mean trusting Blockbuster?

DIABLO

02-09-2006 10:04:03

Are you sure you didn't just do it from their computers? O.o The way your speaking that's what it sounds like...

Daggoth

02-09-2006 10:28:53

[quotea49bfd69ea="junkie06"]He said they used there parents information, how is that false???[/quotea49bfd69ea]

It's not their information, therefore it being false. Thats like me saying I am my dad to every person I talk to, that would be false, because I am not my dad.

Jams44

02-09-2006 10:36:54

[quotef8e206d4f3]V. Other Information
[bf8e206d4f3]
1. Gaming.YourGiftsFree.com is allowed to place any account on hold for any reason.[/bf8e206d4f3]

[bf8e206d4f3]2. Gaming.YourGiftsFree.com is allowed to deny credit for any offer for any reason.[/bf8e206d4f3]

3. Any user that registers on Gaming.YourGiftsFree.com using the AOL proxy will be put on hold. Please sign up through other internet service providers than AOL. Internet Explorer is not required but highly recommended.

[bf8e206d4f3]4. Gaming.YourGiftsFree.com does not tolerate "walking through" a referral. If by any means we think a user walked through a referral they will be put on hold. Examples of a "walk through" include but is not limited to, when all of a member's referrals complete the same offer, all referrals completed offers at one time, etc.[/bf8e206d4f3]

5. Gaming.YourGiftsFree.com can put a user on hold if they "scam" another member in any kind of trade or if they have
a past record of scamming other users.

6. If you have the same password as any other user you can be placed on hold. Common passwords such as "12345"
"qwerty", "test", and others are allowed.

[bf8e206d4f3]7. You cannot "do" an offer or sign up anyone.[/bf8e206d4f3]

8. You will go on hold If you fraud an offer.

9. Your order can be cancelled without notice if your not "PayPal verified."
[/quotef8e206d4f3]

From the looks of it, YGF has any right to do ANYTHING to your account, whther a valid reason or not. Secondly, take a look at #7, you blatenly just told us that your friends signed up with their parents info, not theirs, that would be signing ANOTHER person up. Anymore questions?

YourGiftsFree

02-09-2006 10:37:34

After reviewing the situation, the account will remain on hold for multiple violations of our TOS.

junkie06

02-09-2006 10:57:01

lol was the tos updated today lol

TryinToGetPaid

02-09-2006 11:08:40

I think YourGiftsFree was being generous from the get-go. He could have just simply placed you on hold, without a reason, and left you there.

Jams44

02-09-2006 11:19:15

[quote7831e34c0c="junkie06"]lol was the tos updated today lol[/quote7831e34c0c]

No, I;m pretty sure that has been there for a while.

YourGiftsFree

02-09-2006 11:23:31

Nope, wasnt updated today. Its been like that.

junkie06

02-09-2006 11:27:41

im just giving you a hard time thats all

YourGiftsFree

02-09-2006 11:28:30

I noticed.

Jams44

02-09-2006 11:43:42

You probably should lock this thread, cuz [bfe87e60cf3]fabolousxwun[/bfe87e60cf3] just got

http//www.orlyowl.com/upload/files/pwnedowl.gif[" alt=""/imgfe87e60cf3]

TryinToGetPaid

02-09-2006 12:00:12

Poor owl.

TFOAF

02-09-2006 16:11:23

[quoteef78ffe924="TryinToGetPaid"]Poor owl.[/quoteef78ffe924]

cry

fabolousxwun

02-09-2006 16:25:42

It's alright, immaturity or scammy admins won't stop me from contacting the BBB and most likely my lawyer and/or the local police department.

TryinToGetPaid

02-09-2006 16:42:48

Umm, just a note. You would be wasting your time. The simple fact his TOS says 1. Gaming.YourGiftsFree.com is allowed to place any account on hold for any reason. protects him.

So you are shit out of luck. See ya scam man!

unknown uchiha

02-09-2006 17:13:04

[quote370af8113b="fabolousxwun"]It's alright, [b370af8113b]immaturity[/b370af8113b] or scammy admins [u370af8113b]won't stop me from contacting the BBB and most likely my lawyer and/or the local police department.[/u370af8113b][/quote370af8113b]


Hmm... you were given a chance to solve this issue maturely by simply providing IDs to prove to Blockbuster that your friends were legitimate signups. However, you couldn't since you pretty much did walk them through.

Immaturity is violating the TOS and then threatening to call the BBB, lawyer, and local police to do something about you being put on hold.

TFOAF

02-09-2006 18:23:59

And what would the local police department do? shrug

Rampage575

02-09-2006 18:25:01

[quotee851bb90e5="fabolousxwun"]It's alright, immaturity or scammy admins won't stop me from contacting the BBB and most likely my lawyer and/or the local police department.[/quotee851bb90e5]

roll lol

TFOAF

02-09-2006 19:15:00

Rampage, I'm going to report you to my local police department because you put this emoticon "lol"

D D D

Daggoth

02-09-2006 19:17:55

OMGZ HES CALLIN IN THE BBB ALL RUNZ

Killer722

02-09-2006 19:31:01

[quoteb0c11d0829="Daggoth"]OMGZ HES CALLIN IN THE BBB ALL RUNZ[/quoteb0c11d0829]

Oh noes the block buster bitches. shrug I tried.

fabolousxwun

02-09-2006 20:09:14

by TRUSTING me with their credit card info I meant Trusting me by providing it online using a link from a FREE stuff site ...

But as he said he no longer wishes to communicate ... so I must act upon it

Rampage575

02-09-2006 20:41:18

[quote9054beab6a="TFOAF"]Rampage, I'm going to report you to my local police department because you put this emoticon "lol"

D D D[/quote9054beab6a]

ohnoes!! shock

zdub08

02-09-2006 20:41:41

[quote45faea6f1d="fabolousxwun"]by TRUSTING me with their credit card info I meant Trusting me by providing it online using a link from a FREE stuff site ...

But as he said he no longer wishes to communicate ... so I must act upon it[/quote45faea6f1d]
that doesnt change the fact that he can dq you for whatever he wants

YourGiftsFree

02-09-2006 21:19:24

Where did I say I will end communication with you, I simply said you will remain on hold!

Thank you.

TryinToGetPaid

02-09-2006 21:25:41

Yeah, YGF will end by the local police knocking on his door. For doing something within his Terms of Service.


RIP YourGiftsFree

DIABLO

03-09-2006 07:55:50

What do you expect to do in court or with your local police???

fabolousxwun - Hi. Arrest this guy he scammed me. His e-mail is email==admin@yourgiftsfree.comadmin@yourgiftsfree.com=admin@yourgiftsfree.comadmin@yourgiftsfree.com/email

What the hell do you think they're going to do?


Sit back down and wait for a real case dumbass.



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Jams44

03-09-2006 09:13:09

[quote8e8eb67147="fabolousxwun"]It's alright, immaturity or scammy admins won't stop me from contacting the BBB and most likely my lawyer and/or the local police department.[/quote8e8eb67147]

If I had a nickel....

Commander

03-09-2006 10:45:32

[quote0927ea5624="DIABLO"]What do you expect to do in court or with your local police???

fabolousxwun - Hi. Arrest this guy he scammed me. His e-mail is email==admin@yourgiftsfree.comadmin@yourgiftsfree.com=admin@yourgiftsfree.comadmin@yourgiftsfree.com/email

What the hell do you think they're going to do?


Sit back down and wait for a real case dumbass.



http//coolmusic.no.sapo.pt/private/retard.jpg[" alt=""/img0927ea5624][/quote0927ea5624]

rofl ) +karma LOLOOL

fabolous you obviosuly scammed BB from your mates computers or some shit like that...... Thats why you cant prove the ID's. Now [spoiler0927ea5624]FUCK OFF CUNT[/spoiler0927ea5624]

unknown uchiha

03-09-2006 10:46:53

Threadcrapping. Is. Not. Allowed.

Neither is flaming ;D

EDIt

So play nice and call him a conflicted, confused person. Not a flaming retard or dumbass or stupid cunt, yo.

He's probably new to the freebie scene and stuff.

DIABLO

03-09-2006 11:38:23

[quote0931569155="unknown uchiha"]Threadcrapping. Is. Not. Allowed.

Neither is flaming ;D

EDIt

So play nice and call him a conflicted, confused person. Not a flaming retard or dumbass or stupid cunt, yo.

He's probably new to the freebie scene and stuff.[/quote0931569155]

http//i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/shaftinafrica/retard.jpg[" alt=""/img0931569155]

I'm not going to argue anymore because...

[img="0931569155]http//www.clint.ca/argue/argue.jpg[" alt=""/img0931569155]

Tiphareth!

03-09-2006 11:51:12

http//gummibearheads.com/ign/retard_keyboard.gif[" alt=""/img988b4d0cbe]

"GIEV ME MY GIFT YGF"

DIABLO

03-09-2006 11:55:16

[quoted0b3fa8a46="Tiphareth!"]http//gummibearheads.com/ign/retard_keyboard.gif[" alt=""/imgd0b3fa8a46]

"GIEV ME MY GIFT YGF"[/quoted0b3fa8a46]

[img="d0b3fa8a46]http//i75.photobucket.com/albums/i296/EmErIcAnMiLiTiA/ScreenShot087.jpg[" alt=""/imgd0b3fa8a46]

Waaayyyy off topic... ?

Commander

03-09-2006 15:03:57

[quote3c551ed5af="DIABLO"][quote3c551ed5af="unknown uchiha"]Threadcrapping. Is. Not. Allowed.

Neither is flaming ;D

EDIt

So play nice and call him a conflicted, confused person. Not a flaming retard or dumbass or stupid cunt, yo.

He's probably new to the freebie scene and stuff.[/quote3c551ed5af]

http//i35.photobucket.com/albums/d185/shaftinafrica/retard.jpg[" alt=""/img3c551ed5af]

I'm not going to argue anymore because...

[img="3c551ed5af]http//www.clint.ca/argue/argue.jpg[" alt=""/img3c551ed5af][/quote3c551ed5af]

WAAAAAAA HAHAHAH

Not worthy of another karma though. sorry -P

Jams44

03-09-2006 17:07:46

http//orlyowl.com/upload/files/retardED.jpg[" alt=""/imgbc3b2ef2e4]

DIABLO

03-09-2006 17:35:11

WAAAAAAA HAHAHAH

Not worthy of another karma though. sorry -P

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YourGiftsFree

06-09-2006 12:13:37

Just got an update.

My affiiliate just revoked there credits. Here is what my affiliate said.


Dear Publisher,

We have denied three of your August Blockbuster
completions. These completions were from the same
user. We were informed by the advertiser that
this user had signed up multiple times using
different information each time and fake CC. We
are aware that they are also abusing proxy
servers. Please deal with that user to prevent
further fraud.

The InstantDollarz Team

unknown uchiha

06-09-2006 12:25:11

OOH PWNED!!!

lol.

TFOAF

06-09-2006 12:32:27

[quote7e89a32d81="YourGiftsFree"]Just got an update.

My affiiliate just revoked there credits. Here is what my affiliate said.


Dear Publisher,

We have denied three of your August Blockbuster
completions. These completions were from the same
user. We were informed by the advertiser that
this user had signed up multiple times using
different information each time and fake CC. We
are aware that they are also abusing proxy
servers. Please deal with that user to prevent
further fraud.

The InstantDollarz Team[/quote7e89a32d81]

YourGiftsFree. You're definitely scamming them. rofl

/end sarcasm

shaggz

11-09-2006 12:39:19

[quote8fd2d81563="fabolousxwun"]It's alright, immaturity or scammy admins won't stop me from contacting the BBB and most likely my lawyer and/or the local police department.[/quote8fd2d81563]


Please tell the Police to PM "Shaggz" They are gonna be PUMPED when they find out they can get a free $$$'s

(not a ref link)
http//brandarama.com/pub.php?pbk=CNY04&sk=EPbp1&bk=Npqu6&flk=ARY26

$200 Dunkin Donuts = 2 offers! There ya go ! P

BD2006BD

11-09-2006 16:36:03

yea I agreed with YGF the whole way. If there is ANY suspicion he has the right to investigate further. It would not be worth the risk to not get paid for the offers ( which he didn't! ). YGF definately did the right thing.

plusnightlife

29-09-2006 14:44:01

[quote4578be09de="YourGiftsFree"]Hi,

First off, all your referrals and you did the same offer. Thats considered a walkthrough, I dont enforce it that much because it could happen to anyone. You guys lived within 5 minutes of eachother, not a violation at all because you refer FRIENDS. My affiliate contacted me, he gave me some users that blockbuster are very suspicious with. Also known as possible fraud. So all I requested was his and his refs ID. He can blur out any information I don't already have. So we have all of his refs and him doing the same offer, (walkthrough), they all live within 5 minutes of eachother and did the SAME offer,(raises suspicion), AND blockbuster labeled them for possible fraud.[/quote4578be09de]


None of that statement had any substance to it. Those are not reasons to require IDs, but simply reasons for you to suspend sending a gift (like you did to me several times). Don't use YourGiftsFree, anybody.

Edit I stand by my above paragraph, but after seeing the message from the Blockbuster people, I must man-up and say that YourGiftsFree was right in this situation. I still am not going to use them again. Trainn > Everybody.

compuguru

29-09-2006 14:48:50

[quote36e51a7577="plusnightlife"][quote36e51a7577="YourGiftsFree"]Hi,

First off, all your referrals and you did the same offer. Thats considered a walkthrough, I dont enforce it that much because it could happen to anyone. You guys lived within 5 minutes of eachother, not a violation at all because you refer FRIENDS. My affiliate contacted me, he gave me some users that blockbuster are very suspicious with. Also known as possible fraud. So all I requested was his and his refs ID. He can blur out any information I don't already have. So we have all of his refs and him doing the same offer, (walkthrough), they all live within 5 minutes of eachother and did the SAME offer,(raises suspicion), AND blockbuster labeled them for possible fraud.[/quote36e51a7577]


None of that statement had any substance to it. Those are not reasons to require IDs, but simply reasons for you to suspend sending a gift (like you did to me several times). Don't use YourGiftsFree, anybody.

Edit I stand by my above paragraph, but after seeing the message from the Blockbuster people, I must man-up and say that YourGiftsFree was right in this situation. I still am not going to use them again. Trainn > Everybody.[/quote36e51a7577]

I beleive he was giving him a chance at completing the site (proving that the people are real people). If he couldn't prove it his gift would be suspended.

YourGiftsFree

29-09-2006 18:06:41

I was actually giving them a chance to get their gifts. Now I wont since I got the message from blockbuster.

keepitguilleaume

11-10-2006 20:48:55

lol, just finished reading this (sorry to revive a somewhat brutal thread)

i've signed up for YGF, not done yet but havn't had any trouble...

but anways, signed up for blockbuster from Prizebook (paid $30!) and i was thinking of scamming them by trying to cancel early or something, like what that one guy did (the sticky "MY SIDEKICK AKA WHY I GOT BANNED <-- lol).... but i have to say, it would take more work to scam, then to enjoy and use the service

I'll admit that when i first learned about free sites i thought of every way possible to scam them, and canceld probably about 3 offers, until i realized how fucked up that is of me. Needless to say, i stopped doing that particular site, deleted my account, and am now 100% legit, but people like fabulous and myself in early august are screwing everyone over.

Besides, BBO is a sweet deal.... you get movies/games, as long as you want, as many as you want, 10 dollars/mo (intro) and then 17 after that (?).

I do have a question here though, how can they tell that he was using a proxy? I'm not an expert with how the internet works and stuff, but can they find out THAT easily?

TFOAF

11-10-2006 20:51:58

[quotee4b4d01fa9="keepitguilleaume"]I'm not an expert with how the internet works and stuff, but can they find out THAT easily?[/quotee4b4d01fa9]
Yes.

johnjimjones

11-10-2006 21:48:43

[quote4565f827c5="TFOAF"][quote4565f827c5="keepitguilleaume"]I'm not an expert with how the internet works and stuff, but can they find out THAT easily?[/quote4565f827c5]
Yes.[/quote4565f827c5]

It's easier to tell than you think.

keepitguilleaume

11-10-2006 21:49:20

is it just like a black-list kind of thing, how they have a list of all proxies or potontial proxies and if the IP matches then your "suspicous" then they confirm it?

thats the only way i can really think of doing it....

or is it some kind of secret that common folk like me aren't supposed to know wink ? 8) lol

YourGiftsFree

12-10-2006 04:06:15

I dont want to expose how, but yes we can see VERY easily.

dmorris68

12-10-2006 05:54:43

Suffice to say that with HTTP traffic, there is a lot more information transmitted about your connection than just your IP address. Even with [i10f2ac827f]only[/i10f2ac827f] an IP address, it's pretty easy to determine if that IP is a proxy or not.

keepitguilleaume

12-10-2006 06:38:40

?

why all the mystery, it's not like theres a way around making a proxy work...

YourGiftsFree

12-10-2006 11:52:13

We are not posting how to know if its a proxy for obvious reasions.

keepitguilleaume

12-10-2006 18:33:49

I'm not asking, because if i really wanted to know i could find out by searching google really specifically, but i'm just saying that it seems very mysterious the way you are saying it.

But again, i'm not asking for obvious reasons as well )

dmorris68

12-10-2006 20:07:39

It's no big mystery, and yes you can easily Google for the information. But we're not going to spell it out here for any would-be scammers who just need a push in the right direction. ;)

keepitguilleaume

12-10-2006 20:50:33

oh ok, i getch ya