ThreatNet owns me money

He never green on ordercash4free. I paid him $25. I just read that he wasn't banned for scamming or anything but how can I get my freaking money back??? Its been 3 weeks already since I send him that money.
Ok great, my first trade on FiPG and I got scammed. +32 on A4F.

welcome to the club of get your ass scammed the day you join

[quote5b4e7d5d0f="jeremy1987"]welcome to the club of get your ass scammed the day you join[/quote5b4e7d5d0f]
I didn't just joined when I made a trade with this guy. It was 3 weeks ago. I joined like 3 months ago and he wasn't banned for scamming.

He was banned for scamming. He completed offers himself as friends, by gong to their houses. His accounts would have been placed on hold when it came time for review.

His registered email= address is email=ThreatNet@gmail.comThreatNet@gmail.com address is email=ThreatNet@gmail.comThreatNet@gmail.com/email if you'd like to try to contact him that way. You can also attempt to file a paypal claim to get your money back, if you paid by paypal.

He has also registered the following email addresses

email==threatthesect@yahoo.comthreatthesect@yahoo.com=threatthesect@yahoo.comthreatthesect@yahoo.com/email
email==zachrieakbellurik@yahoo.comzachrieakbellurik@yahoo.com=zachrieakbellurik@yahoo.comzachrieakbellurik@yahoo.com/email
email==freeipodstuffplease@yahoo.comfreeipodstuffplease@yahoo.com=freeipodstuffplease@yahoo.comfreeipodstuffplease@yahoo.com/email

The funny thing is I haven't scammed anyone and I'm willing to pay him back just like I was willing to pay him before I was banned but his paypal limit was reached for the month and he wanted me to send it to a different paypal account so I told him wait until the limit is up and then I'll refund your money in case i pay him then he scams me... I have not scammed anyone. I'm going to talk to wolfe later today when we both have time. Technically all I did was say I was going to help my friend to offers.. Which now I won't and I wasn't aware this was fraud. How can you ban someone for scamming that hasn't scammed? When have I scammed anyone? I said my friend would be doing the offers which is totally legit. BUT besides the fact. I do have a few trades so if this is a temp ban which I hope I guess once I'm unbanned I can deal with the trades.. And if you don't want me to trade with anyone while I'm unbanned just put me as -1 ? It's your call I'm up to repaying people.. Might as well leave this account unbanned so I can read the boards and reply to your comments and pm's I can always make new accounts as you can see. I'm not a scammer I'm honest I'm trying to be as compliant as possible guys just give me a chance. I don't know why you want to get rid of me it seems kind of shady and other members have contacted me on aim and told me that it's bullshit I'm banned for no reason.

Thanks

BTW there's no money in my paypal.. and there's two claims for the money so someone that I did green for which will go through has requested their money back not knowing if it will go red which it won't because ALL those trades were at my house. I was trying to have my friend do some trades at his house which MANY people do. You guys will probably just lock this topic because you know I'm right.

You were banned for what you told me through PM's as well as your comments towards Wolfeman.

To me
[quote49bc55591e="ThreatNet"]Why does anyone go to a friends house to do sites? Because they can't do them at their own house. I've completed those three sites at my house which then went to friends and completed those same three sites for credit on my account so that is why I cannot do those and why I am trading for those three sites.[/quote49bc55591e]

[quote49bc55591e="ThreatNet"]It's allright I got a couple visa giftcards I'm going to be using at his house.[/quote49bc55591e]

To Wolfeman
[quote49bc55591e="ThreatNet"]Are you stupid? Fine I won't tell my friend which offers a good to do?.. They won't go red how is a company supposed to know I told him to do some offers.. You guys are just trying to give me a hard time I've had 15 successful trades doing the same thing. As we speak I've had greens approved. You my friend are an asshole.[/quote49bc55591e]

If someone can give me a valid reason why he shouldn't be banned, I'm all ears.

Well, he already has been banned. Can't you just block his IP? Isn't the new id his 3rd one?

If someone can give me a valid reason why he shouldn't be banned, I'm all ears.

cuz he has trades and shit to take care of, and then after he is golden, ban him.

Well honestly I wont comment on the ban part.

However posting emails he used and saying hes a scammer isnt going to help people.

He wasnt using multiple IDs here. So anyone with a trade with him will know the email used.

All yall did was make every site owner who visits this forum know what email to put on hold regardless of what hes done.

He says in one of his posts he wouldnt walk his friends through anymore.

So lets say he walked 1 friend through 5 sites.
then he didnt walk them through 10 sites

all 15 will go on hold for publicly displaying an email and saying hes a frauder.

Just my opinion though. lol

Just because he says he won't, doesn't actually mean he won't.

He's already proved in his PM to me that he has greened his own accounts at his friends house and planned on going to another friends house to do the same, as well as trade with members on here for sites.

Fuck that. There's no way I'm letting him stay here and trade when he's already admitted to fraud and that he intends to commit it again.

In my view, a scammer doesn't deserve any privacy so the e-mails can stay. Plus, if he hasn't used any of those e-mails on sites then it's not a big deal if they're posted.

It was a rough day long day at work girlfriend bitching I was at my exhaustion point. I apologize wolfe. And how about we let me take care of my current trades and keep me at -1 and after that we decide if I'm able to trade again. Again I didn't know that was fraud. I'm not going to have my friend to any offers of the sort and fgr has a point that they may all go on hold even though they are not going to go on hold. Can we wait until you see that none go red. I'm now aware that I can't do sites at my friends house. I have not scammed anyone. You guys banning me has stopped me from fulfilling my side of the trades. But it's your call.

I really don't think a long day work causes you to go to friends houses......

Also I have not done anything at my friends house except 1 offer which was for FGR and he is sending approval in soon, wouldn't that be the deciding factor if I am a scammer or not?

[quote91bbc592c8]In my view, a scammer doesn't deserve any privacy so the e-mails can stay. Plus, if he hasn't used any of those e-mails on sites then it's not a big deal if they're posted.[/quote91bbc592c8]

Who have I scammed have they not gotten their greens? And some have already been approved.

[quote966a050fc5="UsfGeek"]I really don't think a long day work causes you to go to friends houses......[/quote966a050fc5]

That was the reason why I called him an asshole. See.. frustrating -D

[quote19f10d7688="threatnet7"]Also I have not done anything at my friends house except [b19f10d7688]1 offer which was for FGR[/b19f10d7688] and he is sending approval in soon, wouldn't that be the deciding factor if I am a scammer or not?[[/quote19f10d7688]

Wow, your discouragement of posting his email addresses rings a little hollow now, don't you think FGR?

[quotebeeaee1345="threatnet7"]Also I have not done anything at my friends house except 1 offer which was for FGR and he is sending approval in soon, wouldn't that be the deciding factor if I am a scammer or not?

[quotebeeaee1345]In my view, a scammer doesn't deserve any privacy so the e-mails can stay. Plus, if he hasn't used any of those e-mails on sites then it's not a big deal if they're posted.[/quotebeeaee1345]

Who have I scammed have they not gotten their greens? And some have already been approved.[/quotebeeaee1345]

You scammed the free sites which you signed up for again under your account at a friends house.

Actually I didn't sign up at friends house on them yet.. I was going to do it when I did all the other trades but now I'm not because I know it's fraud if you want proof im my thread i need 7 500.free4me so that means I didn't sign up at friends for that because it requires 7 refs and for the other two i need the max except for flashipods which has 1 green which I traded for and waiting for a green on premiumipods which I did at this house to finish the trade up..

[quote8a63bf3ddf="threatnet7"]Actually I didn't sign up at friends house on them yet.. I was going to do it when I did all the other trades but now I'm not because I know it's fraud if you want proof im my thread i need 7 500.free4me so that means I didn't sign up at friends for that because it requires 7 refs and for the other two i need the max except for flashipods which has 1 green which I traded for and waiting for a green on premiumipods which I did at this house to finish the trade up..[/quote8a63bf3ddf]

[quote8a63bf3ddf="ThreatNet"][b8a63bf3ddf]Why does anyone go to a friends house to do sites? Because they can't do them at their own house.[/b8a63bf3ddf] [b8a63bf3ddf]I've completed those three sites at my house which then went to friends and completed those same three sites for credit on my account so that is why I cannot do those and why I am trading for those three sites.[/color8a63bf3ddf][/b8a63bf3ddf][/quote8a63bf3ddf]

So I haven't scammed.. Want pics?

Edit Yea I told you that because that was my intention to complete it. Why would I admit to it if I knew it was fraud? So I was going to do it in the future but hadn't yet.. THat's the honest truth.. BUT w/e

Whatever let all the emails you posts go red and ban me so noone gets paid if thats what you want fine I'm sick of this bullshit. reply with your final decision.

How about you pay the people back that you owe?

This sounds like it is going way downhill....... Just leave threatnet07 and pay the people back. They have the proof you went to other people's houses to do offers. You may not go red, but that is against the TOS. Read it and you will understand )

[quote074139bf45] You may not go red, but that is against the TOS.[/quote074139bf45] you think you know what your talking about I did one offer that's all at friends house so butt out kid. You're not -1 for no reason either..

[quote0219ed8935="threatnet7"]So I haven't scammed.. Want pics?

Edit Yea I told you that because that was my intention to complete it. Why would I admit to it if I knew it was fraud?[/quote0219ed8935]

Oh ok, you were [i0219ed8935][u0219ed8935]planning[/u0219ed8935][/i0219ed8935] on doing it? My bad, I must've gotten confused with all of your past and present participles.

[quote0219ed8935="ThreatNet"]Why [b0219ed8935]does (present tense)[/b0219ed8935] anyone go to a friends house to do sites? Because they can't do them at their own house. I've [b0219ed8935]completed (past tense)[/b0219ed8935] those three sites at my house which [b0219ed8935]then went (past tense)[/b0219ed8935] to friends and [b0219ed8935]completed (past tense)[/b0219ed8935] those same three sites for credit on my account [b0219ed8935]so that is why I cannot do those (you're saying the reason you can't do those sites is because you've already done them at your own house as well as your friends)[/b0219ed8935] and why I am trading for those three sites.[/quote0219ed8935]

[quote0219ed8935="threatnet7"]Why would I admit to it if I knew it was fraud?[/quote0219ed8935]

[quote0219ed8935="threatnet7"]Actually I didn't sign up at friends house on them yet.. I was going to do it when I did all the other trades but now I'm not because I know it's fraud[/quote0219ed8935]

[quote0219ed8935="ThreatNet"]Why does anyone go to a friends house to do sites? Because they can't do them at their own house. I've completed those three sites at my house which then went to friends and completed those same three sites for credit on my account so that is why I cannot do those and why I am trading for those three sites.[/quote0219ed8935]

[quote0219ed8935="threatnet7"]Again I didn't know that was fraud.[/quote0219ed8935]

[quote0219ed8935="threatnet7"]Also I have not done anything at my friends house except 1 offer which was for FGR and he is sending approval in soon[/quote0219ed8935]

Sorry for that bad grammar now with the new information I haven't scammed anyone I suggest removing those links so what fgr said they don't go red.. I'm going to a movie right now.. SO i'll be back for your decision.

It's not a case of bad grammar, it's a case of you talking shite, contradicting yourself and being caught.

[quote78c566da25="doylnea"][quote78c566da25="threatnet7"]Also I have not done anything at my friends house except [b78c566da25]1 offer which was for FGR[/b78c566da25] and he is sending approval in soon, wouldn't that be the deciding factor if I am a scammer or not?[[/quote78c566da25]

Wow, your discouragement of posting his email addresses rings a little hollow now, don't you think FGR?[/quote78c566da25]

Not at all since the email he used for me hasnt been broadcast all over the forum.


Ok first let me say I am not trying to defend threatnet in anyway. Yall can ban him or not doesnt matter to me.

I received 3 greens from him. 2 have passed approval and I got paid. The third I am still waiting on approval.

However i find it funny that he got banned for something he said in private over a Pm. Yet I have had 2 MODS on this board tell me in private they have done an offer more then once.

Now should I post there emails all over this thread so every site can RED them.

I just think yall should have banned him. If you didnt like what he was doing ban him. I just dont see the need for trying to force a site to make him go red to validate your ban.

Again not defending him just curious.

i think FGR is the fucking CHAMP. All mods should just be replaced w/ FGR.



Don't take anything i said personally mods, I love each and every one of you.

[quotefe6571be7d="threatnet7"]Sorry for that bad grammar now with the new information I haven't scammed anyone I suggest removing those links so what fgr said they don't go red.. I'm going to a movie right now.. SO i'll be back for your decision.[/quotefe6571be7d]
u still own me money. BTW, my paypal is still limited, I opened a claim anyway but I'll close it if u send back my $25 to my sis's verifed account.

I'm back from the movie I see we are in a .. squeeze T_T not much progress I guess we'll all just sleep on it.

And the person


Name
gloria cheung
Email
email==rainyplace@gmail.comrainyplace@gmail.com=rainyplace@gmail.comrainyplace@gmail.com/email
Total Amount
$26.00 USD
Date
Jun. 5, 2006
Time
191322 PDT
Note
flashipods4free.com x 1 = $26


This person I forget the username but she filed a complaint when she got her green maybe it's just a precaution.


AND GCY if I get unbanned you will be refunded promptly with reassurance I don't become banned right when you're refunded.

[quote0718f8fe5f="threatnet7"]And the person


Name
gloria cheung
Email
email==rainyplace@gmail.comrainyplace@gmail.com=rainyplace@gmail.comrainyplace@gmail.com/email
Total Amount
$26.00 USD
Date
Jun. 5, 2006
Time
191322 PDT
Note
flashipods4free.com x 1 = $26


This person I forget the username but she filed a complaint when she got her green maybe it's just a precaution.


AND GCY if I get unbanned you will be refunded promptly with reassurance I don't become banned right when you're refunded.[/quote0718f8fe5f]
Theres a better chance of you getting unbanned if u pay me first.

Uhhh yeah, nobody's going to unban you on the premise that you'll pay them back. You pay the people you owe first.

Don't pay them back and you're the scammer you claim not to be.

Yea I guess that's true but why ban me when I'm not even a scammer I'm going to pay him back once we settle some things first. Regardless of I'm still banned at the end he will be refunded. Try to get your limit up it's the start of the new month whats the deal? Plus he's 0 tr not 1 sucessful trade and has been here over a month and he wants me to send to his sisters account -\

My quota is due in at the end of the month so this ban will be insignificant unless this is dragged out for another 3 weeks.

O i C D

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=36705&start=120
Near the bottom ....

This kid is a scammer ... pure and simple. But now it's the mods fault for "making" him a scammer. He didn't really want to scam you all ... honest! He was going to pay you back and do the right thing ... he was gonna!

I believe Whatisntseen said the very same thing ... it was your damn fault for banning him ... how is he expected to scam more people when you ban him??

Rofl it's one person I owe ..sigh not even why I got banned retard.. thread crap somewhere else

I'm a +32 on A4F
http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showuser=5961
According to paypal, I don't think my account will be unlimited for a while. I withdrawn all my money out already. Will not be using this account anymore and besides I'm not verifed, my sister is, so why worry.

so ur gonna pay or what?????

Gunna unban me or what?

[quote2878dea1a0="threatnet7"]Gunna unban me or what?[/quote2878dea1a0]

It isn't as if you'd get your TR or name back until you paid everyone back.

yep, u pay the people u own money first

He has/had no intention of paying people back, now he's spamming Off-Topic so I banned him and will continue to until he actually does pay someone back.

You'll be paid tuesday/wednsday scouts honor.. to which paypal adress again?

Say hello to TheySayGay! TSJ, you have a fan. D

I agree with FGR on posting the e-mails, we know what e-mails were used and would rather have the sites do the job of verifying and DQ'ing, rather than someone acting on perceived intent. In essence this public statement has DQ'ed him on every site he ever did. Ban him from here, for intent, but don't punish me for a crime that may never have been committed. Let the site owners decide if he actually broke their TOS.

I did a trade with threatnet after pm'ing an admin to make sure he was legit (because of an earlier comment the admin made.) I was told he should be fine so I finished the trade. I was one of the very first he traded with so I believe he did my offer honestly, thus I believe it was legit. Now that his personal stuff, such as e-mails have been posted I think he will be DQ'ed regardless. Again this doesn't punish him, it punishes those of us that were still clinging to hope. Threatnet if you go red (and after this you will) I would expect you to buy me a new ref on my site or pay me for yours. Thank you.

cgy, can you PLEASE change your title to "owes me money" NOT "owns" - it bothers me )

as for this situation, I understand where jaws is coming from. a similar situation happened with jdmturbocivic after he was banned he had no desire to pay anyone. not saying either action in either case is wrong, it just sux when it involves others.