The Truth About dudelovesfinch1035
theysayjump
26-01-2006 17:22:28
This is the truth about the whole DLF situation.
The person who "caused" it came to me in confidence and let me know, asking me not to tell anyone. They have since given me permission to let you guys know. I WILL NOT TELL YOU WHO IT IS, SO DON'T ASK. IF THEY WANT TO COME FORWARD THEY CAN. THIS PERSON IS TRUSTWORTHY.
Basically, someone suspected DudeLovesfinch1035 (DLF) of using a GC generator. This person bought a $10 GC from DLF, reported it to Half.com who then investigated it, killed all the codes, contacted this person and thanked them.
He was using a GC generator. There is no cousin. Jerrito is talking out of his arse.
You guys deserve to know the truth and the bullshitting has gotten out of control.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 17:23:39
are you serious?
Oh snaaaap!
Not just one snap, but multiple snaps! Y/N?
ajrock2000
26-01-2006 17:24:12
wow...what a dumbass.
Thanks for the info TSJ.
Crynos
26-01-2006 17:24:29
Police on his ass now
theysayjump
26-01-2006 17:24:41
I'm very serious. This isn't a laughing matter as far as I'm concerned,
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 17:25:09
couldnt that person wait till i got my xbox 360 first...
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 17:25:17
DAMN!
But whats a Giftcard Generator?
GiftOrb
26-01-2006 17:25:27
Would there be any penalties for the people who used the stolen GCs? I'm guessing there will be NO refund for us from DLF now...
Crynos
26-01-2006 17:26:27
Seriously, we need to organize and contact the authorities. Please keep this thread clean, if you arent involved try not to clutter it up
ajrock2000
26-01-2006 17:26:30
[quote4247a44719="TimmyWangy"]Would there be any penalties for the people who used the stolen GCs? I'm guessing there will be NO refund for us from DLF now...[/quote4247a44719]
Nope. (
Good thing is Finch is in a loooot of friggen trouble.
KeithA
26-01-2006 17:26:37
[quote2160af294d="Broken Ego"]But whats a Giftcard Generator?[/quote2160af294d]
When somebody cracks the algorithm used to issue unique codes (like credit card numbers and gift card codes), they can build a script to generate them.
GiftOrb
26-01-2006 17:26:47
[quote273e96d365="Broken Ego"]DAMN!
But whats a Giftcard Generator?[/quote273e96d365]
Basically it generates valid half.com codes illegally
idrinklisterine
26-01-2006 17:27:05
[quote8caab95d49="TimmyWangy"]Would there be any penalties for the people who used the stolen GCs? I'm guessing there will be NO refund for us from DLF now...[/quote8caab95d49]
There should definitely be a refund, seeing as how he paid nothing for the half.com GCs. Everything we sent to him was pure "profit" for him. He could send it all back and not lose a dime.
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 17:27:56
HOLY FUlili! That sucks. Isnt that illegal?
punjabGTRR34
26-01-2006 17:28:09
I used a little over $800 worth of gift certs last week, will those still go through?
GiftOrb
26-01-2006 17:28:32
That won't save him from authorities though. I'm sure even if he does pay everyone back, half.com and maybe amazon.com will still be after him.
jerrito1
26-01-2006 17:29:03
Wtf? Theres no such thing as a GC generator. Because the GC would have to be activated by Half.com when you pay for it. Samething goes for Amazon GCs. So this topic is total bullshit, unless you provide more proof cause all you have is the word of someone whos identity doesnt wanna be revealed
hehehhehe
26-01-2006 17:29:59
Well, if he doesn't reimburse us, he's got people who'll get more heat on him or we'll help half.com out if they go after him.
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 17:30:27
[quotefbde3ecc7b="jerrito1"]Wtf? Theres no such thing as a GC generator. Because the GC would have to be activated by Half.com when you pay for it. Samething goes for Amazon GCs. So this topic is total bullshit, unless you provide more proof cause all you have is the word of someone whos identity doesnt wanna be revealed[/quotefbde3ecc7b]
EDITNVM
please be quiet!
theysayjump
26-01-2006 17:31:05
[quotea8760a2d2a="jerrito1"]Wtf? Theres no such thing as a GC generator. Because the GC would have to be activated by Half.com when you pay for it. Samething goes for Amazon GCs. So this topic is total bullshit, unless you provide more proof cause all you have is the word of someone whos identity doesnt wanna be revealed[/quotea8760a2d2a]
As opposed to your word you mean? lol roll
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 17:32:08
Did i have to edit my post TSJ or can i put it how it was before?
KeithA
26-01-2006 17:32:35
jack001
26-01-2006 17:32:59
hey, since i got and used a whole bunch of half.com certificates from dude before they went invalid, what should i do? should i contact half.com and see what they say? has anyone else that already used the giftcards contacted half.com about it?
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 17:33:02
i highly doubt that is true now that i think about it is because doesnt a company keep track that this code has this much left on it in their servers, this is no cd key for a game that is written into the program..
GiftOrb
26-01-2006 17:33:03
[quotea6eb3c2021="Broken Ego"]Did i have to edit my post TSJ or can i put it how it was before?[/quotea6eb3c2021]
LOL, I'm pretty sure your not the first one to flame him, so I don't see it as a problem. =]
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 17:33:24
hehehhehe
26-01-2006 17:33:54
[quote6fd4ed54db="jerrito1"]Wtf? Theres no such thing as a GC generator. Because the GC would have to be activated by Half.com when you pay for it. Samething goes for Amazon GCs. So this topic is total bullshit, unless you provide more proof cause all you have is the word of someone whos identity doesnt wanna be revealed[/quote6fd4ed54db]
Just fucking tell him to pay us back already, with merchandise if necessary.
I bet we have more info on him than half.com does at this point and so it's in his interests to do so.
emoney
26-01-2006 17:35:32
[quote01f5a9213d="jerrito1"]Wtf? Theres no such thing as a GC generator. Because the GC would have to be activated by Half.com when you pay for it. Samething goes for Amazon GCs. So this topic is total bullshit, unless you provide more proof cause all you have is the word of someone whos identity doesnt wanna be revealed[/quote01f5a9213d]
Why in the hell would we believe you or dude at this point? Get dude on here now!
theysayjump
26-01-2006 17:35:40
[ba9a9650955]Please no flaming.[/colora9a9650955][/ba9a9650955]
You can panic, just don't be rude or antagonistic.
Crynos
26-01-2006 17:36:20
[quote29c5e8b757="hehehhehe"][quote29c5e8b757="jerrito1"]Wtf? Theres no such thing as a GC generator. Because the GC would have to be activated by Half.com when you pay for it. Samething goes for Amazon GCs. So this topic is total bullshit, unless you provide more proof cause all you have is the word of someone whos identity doesnt wanna be revealed[/quote29c5e8b757]
Just fucking tell him to pay us back already, with merchandise if necessary.
I bet we have more info on him than half.com does at this point and so it's in his interests to do so.[/quote29c5e8b757]Ill make a wishlist for him, makes it easy, just spend $350 of that 11k in amazon and buy me everyone the list.
kdollar
26-01-2006 17:37:27
im not askin for the guys identity jump, but how would he have obtained this information, how is connected to dude, and why cant he tell us more on how people will get their money or some justice?
Couldn't amazon track him? He bought a bunch of stuff from amazon, didn't he? Can't amazon look for him with his IP?
/me has a big feeling this is going to be on the news in the near future.
Crynos
26-01-2006 17:39:24
[quote5cecad0b2f="Psyc"]Couldn't amazon track him? He bought a bunch of stuff from amazon, didn't he? Can't amazon look for him with his IP?
/me has a big feeling this is going to be on the news in the near future.[/quote5cecad0b2f]Ill fucking submit it to the news if amazon lets him use the 11k in his account. With so many complaints against him they need to freeze that shit.
GiftOrb
26-01-2006 17:39:33
[quote2a412ebbad="Psyc"]Couldn't amazon track him? He bought a bunch of stuff from amazon, didn't he? Can't amazon look for him with his IP?
/me has a big feeling this is going to be on the news in the near future.[/quote2a412ebbad]
I'm sure amazon could track him, but they have no reason to. He didn't break any of thier TOS...
On another note, I remember someone saying that amazon's security team is looking into his account b/c they found $10,000 worth of GCs in his account, and a few phone/e-mail complaints.
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 17:40:05
[quote42e91a688a="Crynos"][quote42e91a688a="Psyc"]Couldn't amazon track him? He bought a bunch of stuff from amazon, didn't he? Can't amazon look for him with his IP?
/me has a big feeling this is going to be on the news in the near future.[/quote42e91a688a]Ill fucking submit it to the news if amazon lets him use the 11k in his account. With so many complaints against him they need to freeze that shit.[/quote42e91a688a]
I will 2
GiftMonsterKyle
26-01-2006 17:40:15
Don't think GC Generaters exist. They are automatically created and generated upon purchase. I personally think your source is full of shit. Half.com wouldn't be that unprofessional to use codes like CD Keys as the above poster mentioned.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 17:41:04
[quote13ba4c0ff3="flip"]Don't think GC Generaters exist. They are automatically created and generated upon purchase.[/quote13ba4c0ff3]
yea thats what i think...
Crynos
26-01-2006 17:42:28
[quotecd1e987ffd="Th3Great1"][quotecd1e987ffd="flip"]Don't think GC Generaters exist. They are automatically created and generated upon purchase.[/quotecd1e987ffd]
yea thats what i think...[/quotecd1e987ffd]If his cousin does exist, its possible they found out what he was doing. Either way, end result is the same. (unless DLF comes back)
emoney
26-01-2006 17:44:31
[quoteea3ee75f45="theysayjump"][bea3ee75f45]Please no flaming.[/colorea3ee75f45][/bea3ee75f45]
You can panic, just don't be rude or antagonistic.[/quoteea3ee75f45]
Sorry, I wasn't trying to flame and I'm not panicking (I only last 350 as opposed to the thousands others lost). I'm just tired of these excuses, because they aren't even good excuses. Or even close...
theysayjump
26-01-2006 17:49:15
[quotec062dd6d4f="emoney"][quotec062dd6d4f="theysayjump"][bc062dd6d4f]Please no flaming.[/colorc062dd6d4f][/bc062dd6d4f]
You can panic, just don't be rude or antagonistic.[/quotec062dd6d4f]
Sorry, I wasn't trying to flame and I'm not panicking (I only last 350 as opposed to the thousands others lost). I'm just tired of these excuses, because they aren't even good excuses. Or even close...[/quotec062dd6d4f]
Sorry man, I should've been more specific.
That was in reply to the other post above that has since been edited that basically said STFU Already.
kevxross
26-01-2006 17:53:32
Ok this is insane. I dunno wtf to believe or what to do now. Should I contact Amazon? Should I contact Half?
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 17:54:26
man......who shouldnt we contact....
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 17:57:46
If no contact with him i say tell amazon and half.com AND AUTHORITIES
punjabGTRR34
26-01-2006 17:59:55
But what do the people that already bought stuff. I bought about $800 worht of stuff last week. Will those payments go through?
Crynos
26-01-2006 18:00:29
[quote9704145ac8="punjabGTRR34"]But what do the people that already bought stuff. I bought about $800 worht of stuff last week. Will those payments go through?[/quote9704145ac8]they should
NOStradamus
26-01-2006 18:06:11
[quote07a755248d="Broken Ego"]HOLY FUlili! That sucks. Isnt that illegal?[/quote07a755248d]
No I think it's perfectly legal
kevxross
26-01-2006 18:07:47
[quotebd8d3badfc="punjabGTRR34"]But what do the people that already bought stuff. I bought about $800 worht of stuff last week. Will those payments go through?[/quotebd8d3badfc]
That's exactly what I'm concerned about..
Koleran
26-01-2006 18:18:20
Theysayjump I know you're trying to help and thanks for that but I think this GC generator idea is BS and whoever feeded you that is lying
do you really think there is one? maybe someone should contact half.com and ask them if dudelovesfinch was really using a GC generator(because I don't believe it)
the generator would've been already WELL KNOWN if it existed (just like CD key generators for games/ user name/password for sites etc)
[quote4b1c60100a="theysayjump"]This is the truth about the whole DLF situation.
The person who "caused" it came to me in confidence and let me know, asking me not to tell anyone. They have since given me permission to let you guys know. I WILL NOT TELL YOU WHO IT IS, SO DON'T ASK. IF THEY WANT TO COME FORWARD THEY CAN. THIS PERSON IS TRUSTWORTHY.
Basically, someone suspected DudeLovesfinch1035 (DLF) of using a GC generator. This person bought a $10 GC from DLF, reported it to Half.com who then investigated it, killed all the codes, contacted this person and thanked them.
He was using a GC generator. There is no cousin. Jerrito is talking out of his arse.
You guys deserve to know the truth and the bullshitting has gotten out of control.[/quote4b1c60100a]
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 18:21:56
[quote1529df7861="theysayjump"]This is the truth about the whole DLF situation.
The person who "caused" it came to me in confidence and let me know, asking me not to tell anyone. They have since given me permission to let you guys know. I WILL NOT TELL YOU WHO IT IS, SO DON'T ASK. IF THEY WANT TO COME FORWARD THEY CAN. THIS PERSON IS TRUSTWORTHY.
Basically, someone suspected DudeLovesfinch1035 (DLF) of using a GC generator. This person bought a $10 GC from DLF, reported it to Half.com who then investigated it, killed all the codes, contacted this person and thanked them.
He was using a GC generator. There is no cousin. Jerrito is talking out of his arse.
You guys deserve to know the truth and the bullshitting has gotten out of control.[/quote1529df7861]
How did half.com know what codes to kill since DLF is creating them on his own? Somehow I'm doubting DLF was able to make a GC generator.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 18:24:40
yea i doubt it too....
KeithA
26-01-2006 18:25:47
One possible explanation is that DLF was indeed getting them from his cousin, but that, once they were notified, Half.com was able to trace the codes and invalidate them because their sale was unathorized.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 18:26:21
yea that could be a possiblity ^^^
and did this "person" show any proof
KeithA
26-01-2006 18:29:19
[quote3339936fc1="Th3Great1"]and did this "person" show any proof[/quote3339936fc1]
I think the fact that all of the codes are now invalid should suffice as proof.
It's clear that Half.com didn't approve of the codes' distribution. The source is credible, he/she just may not have been given a full explanation by Half.com
theysayjump
26-01-2006 18:30:48
My "source" thought he was using a generator, which is why they contacted Half.com about it in the first place.
When Half.com got back in touch with my "source", they told my "source" that the GC wasn't legit and they couldn't reveal anymore.
Like I said, the generator isn't a definite since Half have yet to confirm it, but the assumption by my "source" that they were, is what prompted them to contact Half.com in the first place.
Surely this shouldn't even be an issue. The fact that they are illegal or illegitimate is what matters. He was frauding Half.com and fucked all of you guys out of a lot of money.
Allen626
26-01-2006 18:30:56
[quote6d2729708b="theysayjump"][quote6d2729708b="jerrito1"]Wtf? Theres no such thing as a GC generator. Because the GC would have to be activated by Half.com when you pay for it. Samething goes for Amazon GCs. So this topic is total bullshit, unless you provide more proof cause all you have is the word of someone whos identity doesnt wanna be revealed[/quote6d2729708b]
As opposed to your word you mean? lol roll[/quote6d2729708b]
He is actually telling the truth. Like any code generator it can generate a ton of codes, millions and millions. But the code has to be placed into the database before it can work. So this generator would not work, unless the code generated was activated.
LucaBella
26-01-2006 18:31:54
[quote4557ec079e="johnjimjones"]
How did half.com know what codes to kill since DLF is creating them on his own? Somehow I'm doubting DLF was able to make a GC generator.[/quote4557ec079e]
what an interesting comment... if he's made them all up, how would they know which ones to invalidate?
Something ain't stirring the kool-aid.
Crynos
26-01-2006 18:32:37
Yeah, im definitely going with the "cousin got caught" theory (with the info we have now)
emoney
26-01-2006 18:33:22
[quote1c8e11d8d0="Th3Great1"]yea that could be a possiblity ^^^
and did this "person" show any proof[/quote1c8e11d8d0]
I don't have any "proof" but the person pmed me at A4F right after he/she sent the code to half.com to ask about it. Within 48 hrs of the code being sent, all of my codes were invalid. Seems like a big coincidence if it isn't the truth. Also, I doubt this person has any reason to lie about it.
LucaBella
26-01-2006 18:34:21
[quote1d19a79e22="theysayjump"]My "source" thought he was using a generator, which is why they contacted Half.com about it in the first place.
When Half.com got back in touch with my "source", they told my "source" that the GC wasn't legit and they couldn't reveal anymore.
Like I said, the generator isn't a definite since Half have yet to confirm it, but the assumption by my "source" that they were, is what prompted them to contact Half.com in the first place.
Surely this shouldn't even be an issue. The fact that they are illegal or illegitimate is what matters. He was frauding Half.com and fucked all of you guys out of a lot of money.[/quote1d19a79e22]
Your source should have posted that we not buy any gift cards until he checks them out, then many of us wouldn't be out of money now. I am not suggesting that he left people continue to pay for real items with what is fake money, but there could have been SOME indicated that there was a doubt worth investigating. I sure as hell wouldn't have bought anything. But man.. Mods were buying and profiting..... I thought it had to be ok.
Crynos
26-01-2006 18:36:08
[quote59ff8b3d49="emoney"][quote59ff8b3d49="Th3Great1"]yea that could be a possiblity ^^^
and did this "person" show any proof[/quote59ff8b3d49]
I don't have any "proof" but the person pmed me at A4F right after he/she sent the code to half.com to ask about it. Within 48 hrs of the code being sent, all of my codes were invalid. Seems like a big coincidence if it isn't the truth. Also, I doubt this person has any reason to lie about it.[/quote59ff8b3d49]Im not trying to say the codes arent illegal, im just saying i dont agree with the method.
hyperion479
26-01-2006 18:36:15
I think it's become clear that Half.com doesn't approve of the codes, but I have a feeling that the cousin got caught theory is closer to the truth.
If the codes were generated wouldn't they cancel all our pending orders that were done with them because there was absolutely no real funding behind them?
emoney
26-01-2006 18:37:41
[quote02100322cd="LucaBella"][quote02100322cd="theysayjump"]My "source" thought he was using a generator, which is why they contacted Half.com about it in the first place.
When Half.com got back in touch with my "source", they told my "source" that the GC wasn't legit and they couldn't reveal anymore.
Like I said, the generator isn't a definite since Half have yet to confirm it, but the assumption by my "source" that they were, is what prompted them to contact Half.com in the first place.
Surely this shouldn't even be an issue. The fact that they are illegal or illegitimate is what matters. He was frauding Half.com and fucked all of you guys out of a lot of money.[/quote02100322cd]
Your source should have posted that we not buy any gift cards until he checks them out, then many of us wouldn't be out of money now. I am not suggesting that he left people continue to pay for real items with what is fake money, but there could have been SOME indicated that there was a doubt worth investigating. I sure as hell wouldn't have bought anything. But man.. Mods were buying and profiting..... I thought it had to be ok.[/quote02100322cd]
The main reason I didn't say anything about someone sending in a code to half.com for verification was because we had no proof that dude was scamming. He had nothing but rave reviews at that point.
theysayjump
26-01-2006 18:38:04
[quoteef642c6107="LucaBella"][quoteef642c6107="theysayjump"]My "source" thought he was using a generator, which is why they contacted Half.com about it in the first place.
When Half.com got back in touch with my "source", they told my "source" that the GC wasn't legit and they couldn't reveal anymore.
Like I said, the generator isn't a definite since Half have yet to confirm it, but the assumption by my "source" that they were, is what prompted them to contact Half.com in the first place.
Surely this shouldn't even be an issue. The fact that they are illegal or illegitimate is what matters. He was frauding Half.com and fucked all of you guys out of a lot of money.[/quoteef642c6107]
Your source should have posted that we not buy any gift cards until he checks them out, then many of us wouldn't be out of money now. I am not suggesting that he left people continue to pay for real items with what is fake money, but there could have been SOME indicated that there was a doubt worth investigating. I sure as hell wouldn't have bought anything. But man.. Mods were buying and profiting..... I thought it had to be ok.[/quoteef642c6107]
Well that is completely out of my hands. I only knew about this after it happened. I had no prior knowledge about it but if I had then I may have suggested just that.
Either way though, people would have stopped buying them at the same time. If my "source" had posted instead of reporting to Half.com, the same number of people would have had bought what they had bought in this situation.
Maybe if it was sooner then things may have changed.
GiftMonsterKyle
26-01-2006 18:42:08
I don't believe the cousin story. No way in hell would Half.com give their staff over 50% off on all products from Half.com. The excuse "my cousin works at half.com and gets me discounts" alone sounds like straight up BS.
Crynos
26-01-2006 18:43:08
[quote4cfddc4df1="flip"]I don't believe the cousin story. No way in hell would Half.com give their staff over 50% off on all products from Half.com. The excuse "my cousin works at half.com and gets me discounts" alone sounds like straight up BS.[/quote4cfddc4df1]Its more logical than a generator though
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 18:43:31
[quote35fb4b7bb2="theysayjump"]My "source" thought he was using a generator, which is why they contacted Half.com about it in the first place.
When Half.com got back in touch with my "source", they told my "source" that the GC wasn't legit and they couldn't reveal anymore.
[b35fb4b7bb2]Like I said, the generator isn't a definite since Half have yet to confirm it[/b35fb4b7bb2], but the assumption by my "source" that they were, is what prompted them to contact Half.com in the first place.
Surely this shouldn't even be an issue. The fact that they are illegal or illegitimate is what matters. He was frauding Half.com and fucked all of you guys out of a lot of money.[/quote35fb4b7bb2]
so half.com didnt say he used generators then who did? why would your sourcce think that...
theysayjump
26-01-2006 18:44:41
[quote3228dd887c="Th3Great1"][quote3228dd887c="theysayjump"]My "source" thought he was using a generator, which is why they contacted Half.com about it in the first place.
When Half.com got back in touch with my "source", they told my "source" that the GC wasn't legit and they couldn't reveal anymore.
[b3228dd887c]Like I said, the generator isn't a definite since Half have yet to confirm it[/b3228dd887c], but the assumption by my "source" that they were, is what prompted them to contact Half.com in the first place.
Surely this shouldn't even be an issue. The fact that they are illegal or illegitimate is what matters. He was frauding Half.com and fucked all of you guys out of a lot of money.[/quote3228dd887c]
so half.com didnt say he used generators then who did? why would your sourcce think that...[/quote3228dd887c]
I don't share their mind so I can't say why they thought like that.
But to be honest, who didn't think about it?
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 18:45:19
yea but generators come on..this not a cd key for some game that you can just generate...
Daggoth
26-01-2006 18:46:20
[quotef990055371="flip"]Don't think GC Generaters exist. They are automatically created and generated upon purchase. I personally think your source is full of shit. Half.com wouldn't be that unprofessional to use codes like CD Keys as the above poster mentioned.[/quotef990055371]
Agreed. It is really stupid for half.com to have some type of GC generator.
hyperion479
26-01-2006 18:49:11
And anyone who knows a little about computer encryption and randomization of codes probably shares my doubt that he cracked their "code" (if it exists). It would take some serious hacking/insider work to find the right algorithm.
mrwzk
26-01-2006 18:50:52
cousin story is believable,
cousin works for half.com generates giftcards sells dude sells them gets Giftcards which he knows cant be chargedback liek you can with paypal.
cousin didnt get them legitmately a company wouldnt give 50% discounts to workers. i work at a store and i get a 25% discount which is probabaly the norm.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 18:52:26
more believealbe than a half.com gc generator..
Daggoth
26-01-2006 19:08:10
Ya, seriously, ebay would be more secure then created random codes...
UniPrize Media
26-01-2006 19:11:45
I loooooooooove this movie....
Like i said u guys never questioned about how he got the giftcards. Whenever some one brought it up, u chearleadrs tried to change the subject and said "he got connections". Connections my ass.
Ebay is coming after all of u who bought the GCs.
swinger
26-01-2006 19:12:21
It wouldn't make sense for half.com to sell GCs at a discount since all they will ever get back is a 5-15% commission depending on the value of the item. It's not like a retail store that sells products that have been purchased wholesale, so the only thing to be lost is a little profit. Half.com has no inventory and therefore no reason to discount GCs.
Crynos
26-01-2006 19:13:21
[quote8c3936d818="ulenie"]I loooooooooove this movie....
Like i said u guys never questioned about how he got the giftcards. Whenever some one brought it up, u chearleadrs tried to change the subject and said "he got connections". Connections my ass.
Ebay is coming after all of u who bought the GCs.[/quote8c3936d818]get out of the thread, seriously
UniPrize Media
26-01-2006 19:18:25
[quoted89cdd2650="Crynos"][quoted89cdd2650="ulenie"]I loooooooooove this movie....
Like i said u guys never questioned about how he got the giftcards. Whenever some one brought it up, u chearleadrs tried to change the subject and said "he got connections". Connections my ass.
Ebay is coming after all of u who bought the GCs.[/quoted89cdd2650]get out of the thread, seriously[/quoted89cdd2650]
Come down dude.
theysayjump
26-01-2006 19:19:18
[quote75cd2af39e="ulenie"]I loooooooooove this movie....
Like i said u guys never questioned about how he got the giftcards. Whenever some one brought it up, u chearleadrs tried to change the subject and said "he got connections". Connections my ass.
Ebay is coming after all of u who bought the GCs.[/quote75cd2af39e]
Unless you have something worthwhile to post then keep your fingers away from keys, O' Wise one.
Crynos
26-01-2006 19:19:37
[quote87907d0803="ulenie"][quote87907d0803="Crynos"][quote87907d0803="ulenie"]I loooooooooove this movie....
Like i said u guys never questioned about how he got the giftcards. Whenever some one brought it up, u chearleadrs tried to change the subject and said "he got connections". Connections my ass.
Ebay is coming after all of u who bought the GCs.[/quote87907d0803]get out of the thread, seriously[/quote87907d0803]
Come down dude.[/quote87907d0803]Im perfectly calm, however posts like that are pointless
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 19:21:06
Unless he knows someone that can make a generator for him, he'd have to be a borderline genious. Even this cousin doesn't sound feasable, unless the cousin is scamming half.com.
hyperion479
26-01-2006 19:22:58
[quote72d2e37992="ulenie"][quote72d2e37992="Crynos"][quote72d2e37992="ulenie"]I loooooooooove this movie....
Like i said u guys never questioned about how he got the giftcards. Whenever some one brought it up, u chearleadrs tried to change the subject and said "he got connections". Connections my ass.
Ebay is coming after all of u who bought the GCs.[/quote72d2e37992]get out of the thread, seriously[/quote72d2e37992]
Come down dude.[/quote72d2e37992]
I'm thoroughly amused at the patheticness of your life. It's a Thursday night and what does ulenie have planned? Oh yeah, a bag of popcorn and laughing at people's problems on FIPG.
I'd say I'd wait to laugh at your misfortune, but honestly, I've got better things to do. Welcome to a lonely, sad existence.
theysayjump
26-01-2006 19:24:12
Congrats on your first +karma hyperion. wink
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 19:25:09
dam i would give karma too but its too soon from my last vote..
UniPrize Media
26-01-2006 19:29:13
I have nothing to do, i am very bored. That is why i am entertaining myself by following this thread. I have no misforuture bec i am not stupid enough to buy GC that have "SCAM" written all over them.
Anywayz i am sure u have a better life than me ? So i leave at that bec TSJ(the mod) has told me not to post here unless i have info. So good night
[quotee245f52275="hyperion479"][quotee245f52275="ulenie"][quotee245f52275="Crynos"][quotee245f52275="ulenie"]I loooooooooove this movie....
Like i said u guys never questioned about how he got the giftcards. Whenever some one brought it up, u chearleadrs tried to change the subject and said "he got connections". Connections my ass.
Ebay is coming after all of u who bought the GCs.[/quotee245f52275]get out of the thread, seriously[/quotee245f52275]
Come down dude.[/quotee245f52275]
I'm thoroughly amused at the patheticness of your life. It's a Thursday night and what does ulenie have planned? Oh yeah, a bag of popcorn and laughing at people's problems on FIPG.
I'd say I'd wait to laugh at your misfortune, but honestly, I've got better things to do. Welcome to a lonely, sad existence.[/quotee245f52275]
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 19:29:29
well... He keeps lieing not posting etc. So hes definatley did something ilegal. I say get authorities involved NOW
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 19:30:48
more karma hyperion!
Airkat
26-01-2006 19:30:51
I hate to say it, but how likely is the authorities to help? I mean, they may look @ this like "Hey, here's a community of people who makes money by doing w/e they can (including frauding offers, walkthroughs etc) to get things free from companies. Chances are, they knew what was up, but decided to ride it until they got screwed and realized there's no honor amongst thieves."
I honestly could see that type of attitude from authorities. And no, I'm not callin u guys dumbasses, but just observing
theysayjump
26-01-2006 19:32:11
So where did Jerrito1 go?
The Admin index says he last logged in on October 30th 2005, so I can't see when he actually did log in. shrug
Anyone speak to him on AIM?
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 19:34:17
The thing is airkat freebies like what we do are legal. Stealing about 10K and FRAUDING HALF.COM GIFTCARDS IS NOT!
dudeextrem2000
26-01-2006 19:37:12
ok... I bought roughly 200 dollars worth of stuff last night, 3 of them are shipped, will my credit card get charged for this?
and everything i bought has been "confirmed"
Crynos
26-01-2006 19:42:17
Whos that?
Blink182=Gone
26-01-2006 19:43:11
is that nesquik?
also, is that a phone number?
idrinklisterine
26-01-2006 19:43:49
[quote98f4058e2e="Crynos"]Whos that?[/quote98f4058e2e]
Wait, but I thought athoughtlost was DLF, who's from Miami.
Airkat
26-01-2006 19:45:26
[quotea46dcb3ef1="Blink182=Gone"]is that nesquik?
also, is that a phone number?[/quotea46dcb3ef1]
looks like an IP to me...
Blink182=Gone
26-01-2006 19:46:34
haha, phone number.....it's starting to get late ?
idrinklisterine
26-01-2006 19:46:41
So Gio Yauri isn't really DLF's name? I'm a little bit confused here...
Crynos
26-01-2006 19:47:05
So athoughtlost is a different person than DLF is what youre saying?
theysayjump
26-01-2006 19:48:09
That IP is an IP that DLF has posted from on here and nobody else has.
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 19:48:34
[quotec7087294cd="Crynos"]So athoughtlost is a different person than DLF is what youre saying?[/quotec7087294cd]
Either that or he has been making everyone think he's in Miami.
dudeextrem2000
26-01-2006 19:49:00
http//car-dealers.automobile.com/California/Santa%20Monica/9/
look about halfway down its a car dealership
ffactoryxx
26-01-2006 19:50:30
is that his ip or not. Who;s name is that.
TELL ME WHAT YOU HAVE I COULD PROLLY TRACK THIS GUY!!!!!!!!!!!
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 19:51:25
the ip address routes back to miami then althoughtlost is dlf
Blink182=Gone
26-01-2006 19:51:47
I got his from the owner of www.freshgiftnetwork.com
DLF signed up there, his info was
Jake Barnes
645 NE 205th Ter
Miami, FL 33179
65.2.143.211
tylerc
26-01-2006 19:51:53
OK NO NEED TO TYPE IN ALL CAPS!!!!!
Man, I just want to say I'm sorry for everyone who got screwed by this fucker, I'm glad I didn't pay him yet.
Crynos
26-01-2006 19:53:43
How many names did this guy use? I still think its gio yauri because thats what was on his paypal. The others are names of friends probably (or maybe vice versa)
ffactoryxx
26-01-2006 19:54:32
well what names do you have. What addresses. what ips etc
Blink182=Gone
26-01-2006 19:54:52
65.2.143.211 =
coming out of Atlanta, GA and ISP is BellSouth
damac
26-01-2006 19:55:40
some freebie sites that he used and recieved shipped items from need to step up and give us some addresses
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 19:55:53
Is it possible he has a random IP and address rerouter? Names, IPs and addresses all over the place.
codex avellum
26-01-2006 19:56:14
freepay would know. he just got that sony vaio from them
maybe a mod can send Jake a PM
theysayjump
26-01-2006 19:57:10
[quoted6aa17cb43="Blink182=Gone"]I got his from the owner of www.freshgiftnetwork.com
DLF signed up there, his info was
Jake Barnes
645 NE 205th Ter
Miami, FL 33179
65.2.143.211[/quoted6aa17cb43]
Yup. He has also posted from IP too.
theysayjump
26-01-2006 19:58:16
[quote73cb564c70="Blink182=Gone"]65.2.143.211 =
coming out of Atlanta, GA and ISP is BellSouth[/quote73cb564c70]
Another that he's used.
Blink182=Gone
26-01-2006 19:59:17
ok guys, so if we do find him....then what? he won't answer his phone, and he will not answer emails....so what did we accomplish here?
...just thinking ahead, don't mean to be the party p00per here
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 19:59:52
[quote7fe1b5d29f="johnjimjones"]Is it possible he has a random IP and address rerouter? Names, IPs and addresses all over the place.[/quote7fe1b5d29f]
You would still be able to get a connection from Florida from that far on 56k?
Blink182=Gone
26-01-2006 20:00:22
[quote8d4de06b1d="johnjimjones"][quote8d4de06b1d="CoMpFrEaK"][quote8d4de06b1d="johnjimjones"]Is it possible he has a random IP and address rerouter? Names, IPs and addresses all over the place.[/quote8d4de06b1d]
If bellsouth is a 56k provider it may make sense
he could dial into a Alanta 56k access #, in which he would be under Alanta. Though currently a lot of the information points towards Florida.[/quote8d4de06b1d]
You would still be able to get a connection from Florida from that far on 56k?[/quote8d4de06b1d]
I'm not sure, cause he would be getting charged long distance....
CoMpFrEaK
26-01-2006 20:00:59
[quote269d9373d2="Blink182=Gone"][quote269d9373d2="johnjimjones"][quote269d9373d2="CoMpFrEaK"][quote269d9373d2="johnjimjones"]Is it possible he has a random IP and address rerouter? Names, IPs and addresses all over the place.[/quote269d9373d2]
If bellsouth is a 56k provider it may make sense
he could dial into a Alanta 56k access #, in which he would be under Alanta. Though currently a lot of the information points towards Florida.[/quote269d9373d2]
You would still be able to get a connection from Florida from that far on 56k?[/quote269d9373d2]
I'm not sure, cause he would be getting charged long distance....[/quote269d9373d2]
Long distance is cheap, especially if you plan to scam thousands
And its only a theory
agroman
26-01-2006 20:01:44
dudeextrem2000
26-01-2006 20:02:13
[quote117276489d="Blink182=Gone"]ok guys, so if we do find him....then what? he won't answer his phone, and he will not answer emails....so what did we accomplish here?
...just thinking ahead, don't mean to be the party p00per here[/quote117276489d]
send the info to the FBI< or whatever department handles this... or go on CBS and start a show about it... Sorry about that..
CoMpFrEaK
26-01-2006 20:03:06
You could probably get onto local news, which could proceed to national news. (mayybe)
Blink182=Gone
26-01-2006 20:04:25
[quotefcc5a83a91="CoMpFrEaK"]You could probably get onto local news, which could proceed to national news. (mayybe)[/quotefcc5a83a91]
yea and while you're at it, announce that "finch" should call your phone number whenever he gets a chance.
that might help us all out P
dudeextrem2000
26-01-2006 20:04:25
[quote5349d29c24="CoMpFrEaK"]You could probably get onto local news, which could proceed to national news. (mayybe)[/quote5349d29c24]
get all these images packed up and put in a dvd, we'll pay for theysayjump to go get interviewed... i can see it happening...
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 20:05:11
[quote6dfd365c1d="CoMpFrEaK"]You could probably get onto local news, which could proceed to national news. (mayybe)[/quote6dfd365c1d]
I wouldn't be surprised if it made a few seconds of national news. Especially if he gets busted. $10k+ is BIG.
Just about everything here is a theory or speculation. Better we see all the options. I'm just throwing around what I'm thinking so we all can get an idea of where we are.
I just caught myself staring at my own avatar for a good minute and a half.
theysayjump
26-01-2006 20:05:18
lol
kdollar
26-01-2006 20:06:01
yea i think what went wrong is beyond the point anymore, anyone live in miami?? know someone they can hire, rough him up? b/c i can see the authorities right now saying its your own fault, and you took your own risk....
maybe pull some cash together buy a plane ticket, this guy isnt comin back to the forum, even if he did, no way he can get the codes back, so hes prolly sittin down lookn at this big number of money in his account, and its prolly tellin him not to give it back.
i dunno, this my last post, just gonna read from here on out, best of luck guys, but the longer the wait the worse the outcome.
CoMpFrEaK
26-01-2006 20:06:04
[quote8c7c840d96="dudeextrem2000"][quote8c7c840d96="CoMpFrEaK"]You could probably get onto local news, which could proceed to national news. (mayybe)[/quote8c7c840d96]
get all these images packed up and put in a dvd, we'll pay for theysayjump to go get interviewed... i can see it happening...[/quote8c7c840d96]
I do know our local news director.....
Though all in all i seriously hope this is one big mistake. Sad to see a high trader/old member leave with this big of a bang
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 20:06:08
645 NE 205th Ter Miami FL33179
^^ another address he used on freebie sites
Daggoth
26-01-2006 20:06:17
I think someone has to die to make national news. liPulls out Shotgunli
dudeextrem2000
26-01-2006 20:07:29
[quotec6ef1dff2b="theysayjump"]lol[/quotec6ef1dff2b]
so how much would it cost for the 4 toughest guys on FIPG to take a small "vacation" to Miami?
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 20:07:49
[quoteee013c8e6c="CoMpFrEaK"][quoteee013c8e6c="dudeextrem2000"][quoteee013c8e6c="CoMpFrEaK"]You could probably get onto local news, which could proceed to national news. (mayybe)[/quoteee013c8e6c]
get all these images packed up and put in a dvd, we'll pay for theysayjump to go get interviewed... i can see it happening...[/quoteee013c8e6c]
I do know our local news director.....
Though all in all i seriously hope this is one big mistake. Sad to see a high trader/old member leave with this big of a bang[/quoteee013c8e6c]
I was lucky I wasn't in on this too. If I had the money from flashipods4free, who knows what I might have done with it.
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 20:08:15
[quoted2f04bcb52="dudeextrem2000"][quoted2f04bcb52="theysayjump"]lol[/quoted2f04bcb52]
so how much would it cost for the 4 toughest guys on FIPG to take a small "vacation" to Miami?[/quoted2f04bcb52]
About 10 referals.
CoMpFrEaK
26-01-2006 20:08:25
[quote95b564c2b2="dudeextrem2000"][quote95b564c2b2="theysayjump"]lol[/quote95b564c2b2]
so how much would it cost for the 4 toughest guys on FIPG to take a small "vacation" to Miami?[/quote95b564c2b2]
how about one of those DIY airtickets lol
Crynos
26-01-2006 20:10:30
Broken Ego lives down in Miami D
dudeextrem2000
26-01-2006 20:10:31
[quote16f8042067="CoMpFrEaK"]
how about one of those DIY airtickets lol[/quote16f8042067]
http//www.affordabletravel.org/
LucaBella
26-01-2006 20:11:59
[quote13c81a348e="Broken Ego"]The thing is airkat freebies like what we do are legal. Stealing about 10K and FRAUDING HALF.COM GIFTCARDS IS NOT![/quote13c81a348e]
I'm so tired of everyone saying 10k. That bitch took a helluva lot more than 10k. its well over 20K just from what everyone has mentioned here. liIli gave the pigfucker 2400 Myself. ITS MORE THAN 10K. ITS SO MUCH MORE.
I wish i were dead. When I lose my ebay account and go to jail for fake money......
theysayjump
26-01-2006 20:12:28
[quote8075a73fff="Crynos"]Broken Ego lives down in Miami D[/quote8075a73fff]
Lets each give him a green to take a video camera and go find Finch, then post the tape on here.
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 20:12:29
[quotee61ad77370="Crynos"]Broken Ego lives down in Miami D[/quotee61ad77370]
Yeah he's one of our tough guys. Him, J4320, EatChex and syrinndoode will go.
theysayjump
26-01-2006 20:12:57
[quoteabd2b52385="johnjimjones"][quoteabd2b52385="Crynos"]Broken Ego lives down in Miami D[/quoteabd2b52385]
Yeah he's one of our tough guys. Him, J4320, EatChex and syrinndoode will go.[/quoteabd2b52385]
lol
+karma
Crynos
26-01-2006 20:14:29
Who can write well? We need to write up a complaint to the Florida Attorney General and some in Miami also.
Cash4Cookies
26-01-2006 20:14:32
i live in tampa, a couple hour drive to miami. if the price is right, consider me there.
dudeextrem2000
26-01-2006 20:15:02
isnt there a cop somewhere on here, he got a tv for free a while back?
theysayjump
26-01-2006 20:15:08
[quote70967af8f5="LucaBella"]I wish i were dead. [b70967af8f5]When I lose my ebay account and go to jail for fake money......[/b70967af8f5][/quote70967af8f5]
I couln't help but laugh at the last part.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 20:15:22
hell if i lived in miami, i would be all over his trial right now but dam i live in nyc (
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 20:15:44
[quote38e59662d8="dudeextrem2000"]isnt there a cop somewhere on here, he got a tv for free a while back?[/quote38e59662d8]
hairyferry
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 20:16:26
[quote566df0a83a="Th3Great1"]hell if i lived in miami, i would be all over his trial right now but dam i live in nyc ([/quote566df0a83a]
If I was within 2 hours from there, he'd be hearing me knocking at his door right now.
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 20:17:07
[quote80cbad73fb="Cash4Cookies"]i live in tampa, a couple hour drive to miami. if the price is right, consider me there.[/quote80cbad73fb]
$1. Go get'em!
edit I'm double posting like hell.
tealc1152
26-01-2006 20:18:42
All this info that has come out about him has me wondering how legit his sources of attaining the xbox360s were. If I remember correctly, around Christmas time he sold tens of them to various people around the freebie communities with the excuse that his "friends" were keeping an eye out for them.
</irrelevent contribution>
Cash4Cookies
26-01-2006 20:19:07
THE PRICE IS WRONG!
alright imma stop posting in this thread unless someone really wants me to give him a little friendly meeting.
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 20:19:56
[quote258937c005="tealc1152"]All this info that has come out about him has me wondering how legit his sources of attaining the xbox360s were. If I remember correctly, around Christmas time he sold tens of them to various people around the freebie communities with the excuse that his "friends" were keeping an eye out for them.
</irrelevent contribution>[/quote258937c005]
Those have been done for months. I'd doubt they'll even bother with those. Who knows where the xboxs are now.
[quote258937c005="Cash4Cookies"]THE PRICE IS WRONG!
alright imma stop posting in this thread unless someone really wants me to give him a little friendly meeting.[/quote258937c005]
Same here, not only am I not contributing, I'm probably making it worse for those that lost a shitload of money. FUCK PHYSICS HOMEWORK.
tealc1152
26-01-2006 20:23:17
[quoteabbaa119ba]Those have been done for months. I'd doubt they'll even bother with those. Who knows where the xboxs are now. [/quoteabbaa119ba]
Yep, that's why I mentioned my post was irrelevant to the whole investigation and all that. I just noted that he probably didn't attain those legit either.
LucaBella
26-01-2006 20:29:07
[quotea5e59f2a90="theysayjump"][quotea5e59f2a90="LucaBella"]I wish i were dead. [ba5e59f2a90]When I lose my ebay account and go to jail for fake money......[/ba5e59f2a90][/quotea5e59f2a90]
I couln't help but laugh at the last part.[/quotea5e59f2a90]
hahahaha
Daggoth
26-01-2006 20:31:12
Hey, if we kill LucaBella, we will def make national news on this.
LucaBella
26-01-2006 20:32:21
goddamn it. Don't make jokes!
Love me.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 20:32:29
[quote35da9251cb="Daggoth"]Hey, if we kill LucaBella, we will def make national news on this.[/quote35da9251cb]
waaat? kill her nooooo she is the freebie queen remember...
Daggoth
26-01-2006 20:32:52
Change your signature then >.>
wozzybear
26-01-2006 20:37:27
[quote896a6ee290="johnjimjones"]
I just caught myself staring at my own avatar for a good minute and a half.[/quote896a6ee290]
That is so funny, I just paused on this post and did the very same thing.
Daggoth
26-01-2006 20:39:19
[quote7258ada81c="Th3Great1"][quote7258ada81c="Daggoth"]Hey, if we kill LucaBella, we will def make national news on this.[/quote7258ada81c]
waaat? kill her nooooo she is the freebie queen remember...[/quote7258ada81c]
I dont know, its close, Retro vs. Luca Bella vs Benj
LucaBella
26-01-2006 20:39:43
[quoteaecc0f5594="wozzybear"][quoteaecc0f5594="johnjimjones"]
I just caught myself staring at my own avatar for a good minute and a half.[/quoteaecc0f5594]
That is so funny, I just paused on this post and did the very same thing.[/quoteaecc0f5594]
sadly.. so did I. how can you not? why is your avatar 6 times the size of everyone else's? And why are Scarlet's jugs so damned big? jesus woman.
Isaac rocks.
damac
26-01-2006 20:40:39
well don't call me gay or anything, but that doesn't make me feel any better right now (
dudeextrem2000
26-01-2006 20:40:55
"off topic"
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 20:41:53
[quotea2fa1941f5="LucaBella"][quotea2fa1941f5="wozzybear"][quotea2fa1941f5="johnjimjones"]
I just caught myself staring at my own avatar for a good minute and a half.[/quotea2fa1941f5]
That is so funny, I just paused on this post and did the very same thing.[/quotea2fa1941f5]
sadly.. so did I. how can you not? why is your avatar 6 times the size of everyone else's? And why are Scarlet's jugs so damned big? jesus woman.
Isaac rocks.[/quotea2fa1941f5]
Frankly I don't know how it passed the avatar requirements. However I can't explain why her jugs are so big.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 20:47:06
645 NE 205th Ter
Miami, FL 33179
^^ confirmed from another source that is dude's address
Iloveipods2
26-01-2006 20:48:25
wow this is the biggest drama since Sweeedfish vs. that other wacko guy.
LucaBella
26-01-2006 20:49:21
ok.. who has the stun gun, and who's going to attach it to his balls?
theysayjump
26-01-2006 20:51:31
[quote8fa00cde1f="LucaBella"]ok.. who has the stun gun, and who's going to attach it to his balls?[/quote8fa00cde1f]
Judging by your hair I'd say you had the stun gun.
JUNIOR6886
26-01-2006 20:53:04
I cant believe you lost $2400 to this scam. Not only is all the time and expense you used on rewardsvenue for naught but you STILL have to pay $300 in taxes for that money cry Ironic a fellow scam.com member would be a victim of something like this......
LucaBella
26-01-2006 20:55:51
yeah life sucks.
dudeextrem2000
26-01-2006 20:58:30
so many "confirmed" addresses
dudeextrem2000
26-01-2006 21:01:57
http//maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=645+Ne+205th+Ter+&csz=Miami+FL+33179&Get%A0Map=Get+Map
fgr_admin
26-01-2006 21:06:24
[quote121d855250="dudeextrem2000"]isnt there a cop somewhere on here, he got a tv for free a while back?[/quote121d855250]
pretty sure harryferry (something like that) is a cop
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 21:08:14
[quotea177f34314="dudeextrem2000"]http//maps.yahoo.com/py/maps.py?Pyt=Tmap&addr=645+Ne+205th+Ter+&csz=Miami+FL+33179&Get%A0Map=Get+Map[/quotea177f34314]
ok, we'll have two squads in an amphibious assault from the water and the rest from the main road from the south. Seal the perimeter and storm the house. Ready? Break.
dudeextrem2000
26-01-2006 21:08:29
would he know about how to go about this whole "investigation"
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 21:09:13
[quote6d90d971a7="dudeextrem2000"]would he know about how to go about this whole "investigation"[/quote6d90d971a7]
He could easily. Anyone can look at these forums.
BLAST! my plans are foiled.
fgr_admin
26-01-2006 21:50:18
Not to seem mean or anything but everyone who got ripped off needs to get off your ass and
1) File a complaint with the Miami Attorney General
2) Call the Miami Police Internet Fraud dept and file a report
3) File a complaint with amazon.com
Stop wasting your time trying to track down where he lives. Or posting about going to his house. It is all a waste of time.
I used to be big in the Matrix sites when they first came out. The only way anyone got paid back was when they filed complaints.
Sure the cops might do nothing then again maybe they will.
Also if ebay or whomever catches him and you havent made a claim no restitution will be made.
JordanE
26-01-2006 21:57:24
[quote2005f108bd="fgr_admin"]Not to seem mean or anything but everyone who got ripped off needs to get off your ass and
1) File a complaint with the Miami Attorney General
2) Call the Miami Police Internet Fraud dept and file a report
3) File a complaint with amazon.com
Stop wasting your time trying to track down where he lives. Or posting about going to his house. It is all a waste of time.
I used to be big in the Matrix sites when they first came out. The only way anyone got paid back was when they filed complaints.
Sure the cops might do nothing then again maybe they will.
Also if ebay or whomever catches him and you havent made a claim no restitution will be made.[/quote2005f108bd]
Very true they need to act now or they will get fucked over.
hehehhehe
26-01-2006 21:58:08
[quote23788cf2b1="fgr_admin"]Not to seem mean or anything but everyone who got ripped off needs to get off your ass and
1) File a complaint with the Miami Attorney General
2) Call the Miami Police Internet Fraud dept and file a report
3) File a complaint with amazon.com
Stop wasting your time trying to track down where he lives. Or posting about going to his house. It is all a waste of time.
I used to be big in the Matrix sites when they first came out. The only way anyone got paid back was when they filed complaints.
Sure the cops might do nothing then again maybe they will.
Also if ebay or whomever catches him and you havent made a claim no restitution will be made.[/quote23788cf2b1]
We're not trying to track him down just to track him down. I, for one, am giving him a little more time, maybe a day, to reimburse us. We already have more than enough info to get him into deep shit, if he isn't already.
We also called Amazon already, but we have to do something before they can act.
If he can pull his head out of his ass for a sec, he'll hopefully see that ignoring us is the worst thing he can do.
bballp6699
26-01-2006 22:16:43
I think we're all just running in fucking circles if you ask me...
mr_black
26-01-2006 22:17:17
JordanE
26-01-2006 22:23:01
[quote3f04d421c2="mr_black"]i guess i would be 1 of the "tough" guys of FIPG
stats
height6'8"
wieght285
Special Im Black
behold
me[=http//www.myspace.com/6foot7pat]me[/quote3f04d421c2]
LoL that was kind of funny +karma.
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 22:31:06
[quote893302a5ca="mr_black"]i guess i would be 1 of the "tough" guys of FIPG
stats
height6'8"
wieght285
[b893302a5ca]Special Im Black [/b893302a5ca]
behold
me[=http//www.myspace.com/6foot7pat]me
JK But that really is me[/size893302a5ca][/quote893302a5ca]
+kma when I get the chance lol
phunkstar
26-01-2006 22:37:04
[quote6d04a68b1e="johnjimjones"]However I can't explain why her jugs are so big.[/quote6d04a68b1e]
That damn avatar is mesmorizing. What the hell is going on there?!?
Is the interviewer feeling her up or something?
I may have to rub one out...
mr_black
26-01-2006 22:42:53
[quote3b9d8c8439="phunkstar"][quote3b9d8c8439="johnjimjones"]However I can't explain why her jugs are so big.[/quote3b9d8c8439]
That damn avatar is mesmorizing. What the hell is going on there?!?
Is the interviewer feeling her up or something?
[b3b9d8c8439]I may have to rub one out...[/b3b9d8c8439][/quote3b9d8c8439]
lol
that crap its intoxicatin tho...i think i love her now
lol i like that
special- im black
nice one
idrinklisterine
26-01-2006 23:08:04
[quoteb43bd71f67="mr_black"]i guess i would be 1 of the "tough" guys of FIPG
stats
height6'8"
wieght285
Special Im Black
behold
me[=http//www.myspace.com/6foot7pat]me
JK But that really is me[/sizeb43bd71f67][/quoteb43bd71f67]
lol I like that, you make it seem like being black is a superpower lol
emoney
26-01-2006 23:28:47
[quote3c041ad9a3="johnjimjones"]
I just caught myself staring at my own avatar for a good minute and a half.[/quote3c041ad9a3]
Who is that ugly girl in your avatar?
akalic
26-01-2006 23:29:40
[quotef9295c192d="mr_black"]i guess i would be 1 of the "tough" guys of FIPG
stats
height6'8"
wieght285
Special Im Black
behold
me[=http//www.myspace.com/6foot7pat]me
JK But that really is me[/sizef9295c192d][/quotef9295c192d]
i'll see you outside.
emoney
26-01-2006 23:39:23
johnjimjones
26-01-2006 23:40:36
emoney
26-01-2006 23:44:42
I just used netronline to find a link to where his condominiums are according to that address we have. Also, if this truly is the right address, he lives in TOWNHOUSES OF THE CALIF CLUB.
And I love your .gifurl==http://=http:///url )
Gigante
26-01-2006 23:51:10
247 NE 199 LANE is an address he used on a site. I'm sure that is is just a fake though.
emoney
26-01-2006 23:56:09
[quote30072a2581="Gigante"]247 NE 199 LANE is an address he used on a site. I'm sure that is is just a fake though.[/quote30072a2581]
That address does exist though, not that that means too much. It's in SELDINS ESTATES.
idrinklisterine
27-01-2006 00:10:18
How many people have contacted Amazon? It seems like that is our only hope of getting our money back right now. Half.com obviously can't do anything for us. DLF still had $11,000 in his GC account at Amazon the last time someone checked. If a bunch of us contact them and tell them he scammed people for them, then isn't there a chance they'll refund them to the people who bought them?
emoney
27-01-2006 00:15:34
[quotec88d72feeb="idrinklisterine"]How many people have contacted Amazon? It seems like that is our only hope of getting our money back right now. Half.com obviously can't do anything for us. DLF still had $11,000 in his GC account at Amazon the last time someone checked. If a bunch of us contact them and tell them he scammed people for them, then isn't there a chance they'll refund them to the people who bought them?[/quotec88d72feeb]
I agree, I'll tell everyone at A4F to report the codes to Amazon. I did contact Amazon by the way, and will keep everyone posted.
idrinklisterine
27-01-2006 00:16:28
I emailed them as well, if they get enough complaints about the same person they might do something.
justinag06
27-01-2006 03:00:33
[quote49593a9d33="JUNIOR6886"]I cant believe you lost 2400K to this scam. Not only is all the time and expense you used on rewardsvenue ofr naught but you STILL have to pay $300 in taxes for that money cry Ironic a fellow scam.com member would be a victim of something like this......[/quote49593a9d33]
and the award for dick of the year goes to...
These codes were working for over 2 months, I can understand why a lot of people fell for it. No need to be a dick about it
Wolfeman
27-01-2006 04:26:47
FBI North Miami Beach
16320 Northwest Second Avenue
North Miami Beach, Florida 33169-6508
miami.fbi.gov
(305) 944-9101
http//miami.fbi.gov/complain.htm
http//www.ic3.gov/
This might not help you guys get your money back but don't you want to see this asshole go to jail? If everyone files a complaint here that was screwed here and someone posts this and A4F and they all do too, that's a lot of complainants and gets the ball rolling a lot faster. It will also help with Amazon getting your money back if the FBI is involved. I say stop Google mapping his address and start writing down in detail everything that happened, dates, transaction numbers, links to posts, anything you know and get it to the police and FBI. This is more of an FBI thing since it crosses state lines...
Gigante
27-01-2006 07:14:57
[quotec718d53d37="Wolfeman"]FBI North Miami Beach
16320 Northwest Second Avenue
North Miami Beach, Florida 33169-6508
miami.fbi.gov
(305) 944-9101
http//miami.fbi.gov/complain.htm
http//www.ic3.gov/
This might not help you guys get your money back but don't you want to see this asshole go to jail? If everyone files a complaint here that was screwed here and someone posts this and A4F and they all do too, that's a lot of complainants and gets the ball rolling a lot faster. It will also help with Amazon getting your money back if the FBI is involved. I say stop Google mapping his address and start writing down in detail everything that happened, dates, transaction numbers, links to posts, anything you know and get it to the police and FBI. This is more of an FBI thing since it crosses state lines...[/quotec718d53d37]
IAWTP
Gigante
27-01-2006 07:16:32
Name
Gilberto Zamora
Email
email==gilbertozam87@hotmail.comgilbertozam87@hotmail.com=gilbertozam87@hotmail.comgilbertozam87@hotmail.com/email
That is his old paypal info from October.
kevxross
27-01-2006 07:22:45
That's exactly the problem. There is so much conflicting info on this douchebag, I dunno WHAT to tell people (the FBI) if I did complain. "Uh yeah, this guy, DudeLovesFinch1035...liclickli...hello?"
bballp6699
27-01-2006 07:24:07
The key to this whole thing is his "aunt".
Th3Great1
27-01-2006 08:18:43
yea his "aunts" addreess was used on a few feebie sites according the the owners
killerman
27-01-2006 09:22:45
i bought $200 worth of Gc's from him for a $99 amazon gc.
i hope they dont take away my textbooks (
ilanbg
27-01-2006 10:08:39
[quoted8508a61ac="johnjimjones"][quoted8508a61ac="LucaBella"][quoted8508a61ac="wozzybear"][quoted8508a61ac="johnjimjones"]
I just caught myself staring at my own avatar for a good minute and a half.[/quoted8508a61ac]
That is so funny, I just paused on this post and did the very same thing.[/quoted8508a61ac]
sadly.. so did I. how can you not? why is your avatar 6 times the size of everyone else's? And why are Scarlet's jugs so damned big? jesus woman.
Isaac rocks.[/quoted8508a61ac]
Frankly I don't know how it passed the avatar requirements. However I can't explain why her jugs are so big.[/quoted8508a61ac]
Yep, same here. She looks so flustered the first second he starts feeling her up, and I keep trying to read her lips and figure out what she said.
[quoted8508a61ac="mr_black"]i guess i would be 1 of the "tough" guys of FIPG
stats
height6'8"
wieght285
Special Im Black
behold
me[=http//www.myspace.com/6foot7pat]me
JK But that really is me[/sized8508a61ac][/quoted8508a61ac]
lol
Which one are you?
Just bring your whole crew and fuck him up.
If people want to get all vigilante, just offer Mr. Black about 2K to split with his group for efforts and risk, and have them beat the amazon password out of DLF. Change it and transfer the funds to TSJ or something, then let him disperse the funds.
I'm fairly serious. That would be illegal of course, but contacting the FBI makes it pretty unlikely for people here to get their money back. Steal the money back, then have half.com press charges, and all will be well, more or less.
kevxross
27-01-2006 10:23:12
This is from the info gathering thread. I didn't want to post it there because the rules are pretty strict lol
[quote62ff28b9bf="Chris"]The state you live in (if you don't mind) Fl (Parkland)[/quote62ff28b9bf]
Chris is a victim of the scam and lives about an hour from Miami! If nothing else, at least you're close enough to report it to authorities local to HIS area if we do go that route.
ilanbg
27-01-2006 10:28:07
I still say beat the shit out of him before you get him arrested...
kevxross
27-01-2006 10:33:26
[quotefe442fa38e="ilanbg"]I still say beat the shit out of him before you get him arrested...[/quotefe442fa38e]
You're not helping at all, you're just producing more junk to sift through in these threads to get to the real info.
[bfe442fa38e]Can people (especially people not even involved in any way) stop spamming these threads with stupid jokes and useless posts? Those of us involved are taking this very seriously and aren't in the joking mood about this topic. There's plenty of room elsewhere on these forums for useless crap. Thanks.[/sizefe442fa38e][/colorfe442fa38e][/bfe442fa38e]
And no, I'm not a mod, nor am I pretending to be. I can't enforce this, I'm just asking nicely for some space for us to truly discuss this matter more efficiently and try to come to a resolution.
phunkstar
27-01-2006 10:44:15
[quote4a0dfa3b0a="Wolfeman"]FBI North Miami Beach
16320 Northwest Second Avenue
North Miami Beach, Florida 33169-6508
miami.fbi.gov
(305) 944-9101
http//miami.fbi.gov/complain.htm
http//www.ic3.gov/
This might not help you guys get your money back but don't you want to see this asshole go to jail? If everyone files a complaint here that was screwed here and someone posts this and A4F and they all do too, that's a lot of complainants and gets the ball rolling a lot faster. It will also help with Amazon getting your money back if the FBI is involved. I say stop Google mapping his address and start writing down in detail everything that happened, dates, transaction numbers, links to posts, anything you know and get it to the police and FBI. This is more of an FBI thing since it crosses state lines...[/quote4a0dfa3b0a]
Actually, the form to file with the FBI's internet fraud division (http//www.ic3.gov/) is quite comprehensive. In my opinion, the more complaints the better (even if you only have a very limited amount of information to offer). Filing one large complaint with everyone's information is a good idea, but each person that has been victimized should file an individual complaint for maximum impact.
I've had to file several complaints through my eBay dealings and on more than one occasion the local police went knocking on the perps door! So it definitely works.
Also, the retribution talk really should be minimized or eliminated as the FBI [b4a0dfa3b0a]WILL[/b4a0dfa3b0a] check out this forum for more details. It ruins credibility if you guys start talking about setting up a lynch mob (besides being highly illegal).
kevxross
27-01-2006 10:49:06
[quote6985c35680="phunkstar"]Also, the retribution talk really should be minimized or eliminated as the FBI [b6985c35680]WILL[/b6985c35680] check out this forum for more details. It ruins credibility if you guys start talking about setting up a lynch mob (besides being highly illegal).[/quote6985c35680]
EXACTLY. I, for one, am only interested in taking LEGAL action against this criminal. I'm not getting a "gang of homies" to go beat the guy up. I don't think anyone that is actually a victim of this are even suggesting this. I'd like to request that a mod please delete all these posts suggesting illegal retribution, as they're not serious and not wanted.
Now, do you think those of us that SPENT the gift certificates back when they worked should file a complaint? I've only lost $200 of Half GCs as of now, but will it help my case [b6985c35680]if[/b6985c35680] Half does decide to try to backcharge me for all the GCs I used?
GiftOrb
27-01-2006 11:43:20
[quotedc0b0b9673]Actually, the form to file with the FBI's internet fraud division (http//www.ic3.gov/) is quite comprehensive. In my opinion, the more complaints the better (even if you only have a very limited amount of information to offer). Filing one large complaint with everyone's information is a good idea, but each person that has been victimized should file an individual complaint for maximum impact.
[/quotedc0b0b9673]
I was reading a lot on paypalsucks.com and most of the stories say that the FBI won't bother looking into a case unless its over $20,000 in lost/stolen money. Since that is the case, the only way to file it is as one large complaint, hopefully totallying over $20,000. (It should if they look at how much money we lost in half.com certificates)
JordanE
27-01-2006 12:04:01
[quote2967a1f925="TimmyWangy"][quote2967a1f925]Actually, the form to file with the FBI's internet fraud division (http//www.ic3.gov/) is quite comprehensive. In my opinion, the more complaints the better (even if you only have a very limited amount of information to offer). Filing one large complaint with everyone's information is a good idea, but each person that has been victimized should file an individual complaint for maximum impact.
[/quote2967a1f925]
I was reading a lot on paypalsucks.com and most of the stories say that the FBI won't bother looking into a case unless its over $20,000 in lost/stolen money. Since that is the case, the only way to file it is as one large complaint, hopefully totallying over $20,000. (It should if they look at how much money we lost in half.com certificates)[/quote2967a1f925]
I don't think guys have anything to worry about as far the $20,000 goes he got more then 20. Lets not forget he has like $11,000 in his amazon account alone and he has spent atleast that already.
Crynos
27-01-2006 12:13:12
Yeah, i definitely think we have a better chance if its one case of $20k+ instead of 40 cases of $500
kdollar
27-01-2006 12:20:00
[quote61875d2389="kevxross"][quote61875d2389="ilanbg"]I still say beat the shit out of him before you get him arrested...[/quote61875d2389]
You're not helping at all, you're just producing more junk to sift through in these threads to get to the real info.
[b61875d2389]Can people (especially people not even involved in any way) stop spamming these threads with stupid jokes and useless posts? Those of us involved are taking this very seriously and aren't in the joking mood about this topic. There's plenty of room elsewhere on these forums for useless crap. Thanks.[/size61875d2389][/color61875d2389][/b61875d2389]
And no, I'm not a mod, nor am I pretending to be. I can't enforce this, I'm just asking nicely for some space for us to truly discuss this matter more efficiently and try to come to a resolution.[/quote61875d2389]
hey man i agree completely, no useless jokes, but chill out, a lot of people can help with information, thats why its open, and i believe there is a separate thread for those who were damaged only, the world needs to know about DLF.
Wolfeman
27-01-2006 12:23:33
Yeah I'm keeping an eye on this thread but I won't post much, I know this is a shitty situation. I really think you guys should all contact the FBI. You know his address and a lot of info about him. You think anyone that gets scammed on the internet knows much about the person that scammed them? This guy stole a lot of money from you and at least twice that from Half.com, this is a case where the FBI would get involved since its gotta be $50K+ in fraud.
mrwzk
27-01-2006 12:24:36
i live like an hr from where his supposed address is
Total Est. Time 1 hour, 9 minutes
Total Est. Distance 61.53 miles
best bet is complain to amazon about fraud. if they get enough someone will look into it sooner or later. report to police, even if you dont have his name the police have much more advanced tecnology for finding out infromation than anyone here has. so they can find out his location from his IP even if he is using a proxy those can be easily seen thru if you know what you doing. the police force in miami i believe has a big cyber crime section, i think thats where it is i know some place around me has an advanced cyber crime section
kdollar
27-01-2006 12:26:45
fbi is shootin high, like they arent already booked, and most likely ur best bet is by numbers, not total money, but how many people he scammed, they will look over 1 or 2, or 3 even 5, but when different people keep harrassing them over and over, they will do something about it. so everyone individually needs to file complaints, and with all the evidence "shitbreak" left behind, he will be easy to find.
Crynos
27-01-2006 12:30:03
We could always file a joint one, and then each individually file one. Ill be writing mine up tomorrow, what all should i include?
kevxross
27-01-2006 12:30:45
[quote4e6aed53a4="kdollar"]hey man i agree completely, no useless jokes, but chill out, a lot of people can help with information, thats why its open, and i believe there is a separate thread for those who were damaged only, the world needs to know about DLF.[/quote4e6aed53a4]
You misinterpreted my post if you think I have a problem with people helping with information. Any and all info or otherwise helpful posts are more than welcome. It's just that the other thread is at 14 pages and this one is already on page 6. If I leave the forum for a few hours I have a few pages to go through. I'd rather have a single page of useful posts. And I know that this off topic discussion I'm engaged in isn't helping either. I just wanted to put a note to hopefully decrease the amount of spam.
The other thread is strictly for info that fits the template provided, not for discussion.
Anyway, back to the topic...
fgr_admin
27-01-2006 12:31:45
Ok figure might as well post this for everybody. Here are step by step instructions.
1) File a complaint with the Attorney General in your state http//www.naag.org/ag/full_ag_table.php
2) File a complaint with the Florida Attorney General http//myfloridalegal.com/
3) File a complaint with the Internet Fraud Complaint Center http//www.ic3.gov/
4) File a complaint with your local Police
5) File a complaint with the Miami Police Dept, Investigations Div, Fraud and Forgery (305) 579-6560
6) File a complaint with your CC company
7) File a complaint with the payment type you used. (amazon, paypal, etc)
The biggest one will actually be the Miami police. Once they get 20,000$ worth of complaints they will definitely act on it. The more information each person gives, the sooner they can act on it.
Also lumping everything together in one lump complaint wont work as fast. All these place go by the # of complaints. The more complaints that roll in the more they notice.
Good Luck
ilanbg
27-01-2006 12:33:03
[quote47915eb406="kdollar"]fbi is shootin high, like they arent already booked, and most likely ur best bet is by numbers, not total money, but how many people he scammed, they will look over 1 or 2, or 3 even 5, but when different people keep harrassing them over and over, they will do something about it. so everyone individually needs to file complaints, and with all the evidence "shitbreak" left behind, he will be easy to find.[/quote47915eb406]
This is what the FBI deals with; they'd definitely be interested in someone gaining at least 20K illegally. And doing a joint complain will harbor results, since I doubt they'll even look at any complaints that are in the hundreds or low thousands, regardless of how many they get.
Broken Ego
27-01-2006 12:46:15
Ok just to let everyone know I WAS JOKING WHEN I SAID I WAS 13 IN THE YAY IM 15 THREAD.
I live 10 mins away from him so i can help. Also tough
kevxross
27-01-2006 12:47:03
hmm...
kdollar
27-01-2006 12:54:30
[quote0fed402371="ilanbg"][quote0fed402371="kdollar"]fbi is shootin high, like they arent already booked, and most likely ur best bet is by numbers, not total money, but how many people he scammed, they will look over 1 or 2, or 3 even 5, but when different people keep harrassing them over and over, they will do something about it. so everyone individually needs to file complaints, and with all the evidence "shitbreak" left behind, he will be easy to find.[/quote0fed402371]
This is what the FBI deals with; they'd definitely be interested in someone gaining at least 20K illegally. And doing a joint complain will harbor results, since I doubt they'll even look at any complaints that are in the hundreds or low thousands, regardless of how many they get.[/quote0fed402371]
i have a friend who works for the fbi, they really dont give a shit about this stuff, yes 20k is a lot but u see its spread out so its a 200 dollar complain, 300 dollar complaint low amounts, fgr admin has it completely right, read his post, and follow his directions.
as best advice as i can give for "kev" he should report it, his lost 200, b/c most likely his other gcs have already been completed and gone through, but if he has a complaint listed, hes a victim, and therefore if shitbreak goes down, kev wont go with him. i think more opinions the better for his situation.
hyperion479
27-01-2006 12:54:33
Similiar situation for me...any advice?
ronmm
27-01-2006 12:57:04
[quote2cd81df0e4="ilanbg"][quote2cd81df0e4="kdollar"]fbi is shootin high, like they arent already booked, and most likely ur best bet is by numbers, not total money, but how many people he scammed, they will look over 1 or 2, or 3 even 5, but when different people keep harrassing them over and over, they will do something about it. so everyone individually needs to file complaints, and with all the evidence "shitbreak" left behind, he will be easy to find.[/quote2cd81df0e4]
This is what the FBI deals with; they'd definitely be interested in someone gaining at least 20K illegally. And doing a joint complain will harbor results, since I doubt they'll even look at any complaints that are in the hundreds or low thousands, regardless of how many they get.[/quote2cd81df0e4]
I highly doubt the FBI is interested in 20k regardless how it was scammed/forged/whatever. You are better off with local law enforcement and many complaints.
Wolfeman
27-01-2006 13:00:09
You guys don't know what you are talking about. Local law enforcement is for local laws. This spans state lines and is a federal matter. The FBI certainly does care even if its less than $20K especially if they are getting numerous reports. I've seen plenty of stories about the FBI busting people for scams less than $20K. But its up to the people that got scammed.
I know if I lost $2K to this guy I'd call the FBI right away. What is it going to hurt?
hehehhehe
27-01-2006 13:15:29
The guy I dealt with on ebay that had the fbi/doj internet crimes after him had tried to make off with less than $20k. The FBI/doj has an internet crimes division especially for these kinds of cases. Do you want me to scan the fucking pamphlet I received from them about a case where someone got $300-$500 from each person? I really wish people would stop posting misinformation (again, read kevxross' advice).
Add to that what he's done to half.com.
phunkstar
27-01-2006 13:20:22
You are all partially correct. The FBI does care, but not so much that an FBI agent will go knocking on DLF's door. What will happen is an FBI desk agent will compile the reports and submit a summary to the local police closest to DLF for action.
For those of you implying that small amounts are not investigated, again you are partially correct. If somebody is scammed out of $500 or less (I don't know what amount warrants investigation -- that is simply an arbitrary number), the report will likely be filed away. HOWEVER, if said file starts accumulating numerous reports then they will take notice. Enough reports and eventually it will be investigated. Filing a complaint cannot hurt the situation...it can only help.
Wolfeman
27-01-2006 13:20:40
[quote138333f399="hehehhehe"]The guy I dealt with on ebay that had the fbi/doj internet crimes after him had tried to make off with less than $20k. The FBI/doj has an internet crimes division especially for these kinds of cases. Do you want me to scan the fucking pamphlet I received from them about a case where someone got $300-$500 from each person? I really wish people would stop posting misinformation (again, read kevxross' advice).
Add to that what he's done to half.com.[/quote138333f399]
Exactly my point. People need to stop posting things they pull out of their ass. Everyone that was scammed should contact the FBI and file a report. The FBI will compile them into 1 case. At least $13.5K from FIPG alone, this isn't a small case fellas. And if you used up all your Half.com certs I'd report right away since then at least you are trying to catch the guy and Half.com doesn't think you were involved somehow...
Crynos
27-01-2006 13:25:30
What all should i put in the report though? Are we sure his name is Gio Franco, do i link to this thread, etc?
hehehhehe
27-01-2006 13:27:49
[quote3cc69e856d="phunkstar"]You are all partially correct. The FBI does care, but not so much that an FBI agent will go knocking on DLF's door. What will happen is an FBI desk agent will compile the reports and submit a summary to the local police closest to DLF for action.[/quote3cc69e856d]
Yeah, what we're trying to get is for the police or the doj to contact Amazon to at least put a hold on his account, not have the FBI bring a swat team to his aunt/girlfriend's house. I don't even know if we'll see our money, but that's how we get the ball rolling.
It's not that complicated but so many uninvolved people are messing this up when they post irrelevant info.
If you have a buddy at the FBI, why not ask for his advice in this case? We'd appreciate it.
Wolfeman
27-01-2006 13:28:09
Put EVERYTHING. Dates, links to threads, copies of emails. If you think his name is Gio, put you think thats his name. Try to make a timeline to make it easier to go through. I'd also call first and see what they say, it can't hurt...
ClassAct
27-01-2006 13:34:06
All of my half codes worked i got them in nov and december, trades other giftcards for them and got him greens, But i got an xbox360 off of him and sent him a check, should I be concerned this was gotten from half and should I post this info in the thread tsy started?
phunkstar
27-01-2006 13:35:03
[quotec563a63f66="hehehhehe"]If you have a buddy at the FBI, why not ask for his advice in this case? We'd appreciate it.[/quotec563a63f66]
Honestly I don't, unfortunately, or I would!
It's just that in my almost 9 years selling on eBay I've had to file & pursue many fraudulent buyers, so I know fairly well how the system works...
Wolfeman
27-01-2006 13:35:33
[quote28d22790e6="hehehhehe"][quote28d22790e6="phunkstar"]You are all partially correct. The FBI does care, but not so much that an FBI agent will go knocking on DLF's door. What will happen is an FBI desk agent will compile the reports and submit a summary to the local police closest to DLF for action.[/quote28d22790e6]
Yeah, what we're trying to get is for the police or the doj to contact Amazon to at least put a hold on his account, not have the FBI bring a swat team to his aunt/girlfriend's house. I don't even know if we'll see our money, but that's how we get the ball rolling.
It's not that complicated but so many uninvolved people are messing this up when they post irrelevant info.
If you have a buddy at the FBI, why not ask for his advice in this case? We'd appreciate it.[/quote28d22790e6]
FBI might not kick down his door but he's stolen over $13,500 from FIPG members alone. Plus A4F members and any other forums he might have been on. I'd say $20,000 isn't a stretch and either is $30,000 in fraud, just from users. Its probably $50-60,000 in fraud at Half.com. Thats a shitload of money. You gotta know he is going to be arrested and any info you guys give is going to help the FBI build a stronger case.
Wolfeman
27-01-2006 13:37:47
[quote9bb3540b4f="ClassAct"]All of my half codes worked i got them in nov and december, trades other giftcards for them and got him greens, But i got an xbox360 off of him and sent him a check, should I be concerned this was gotten from half and should I post this info in the thread tsy started?[/quote9bb3540b4f]
You can be held liable for the money you spend on Half.com...
ClassAct
27-01-2006 13:38:39
[quotec2e0f599b7="Wolfeman"][quotec2e0f599b7="ClassAct"]All of my half codes worked i got them in nov and december, trades other giftcards for them and got him greens, But i got an xbox360 off of him and sent him a check, should I be concerned this was gotten from half and should I post this info in the thread tsy started?[/quotec2e0f599b7]
You can be held liable for the money you spend on Half.com...[/quotec2e0f599b7]
so post the half thing and not xbox360?
Wolfeman
27-01-2006 13:40:11
Not sure what you did. Explain it a little clearer. Like did a green for DLF, he sent me $50 half.com...
punjabGTRR34
27-01-2006 13:40:45
I also don't know what to do. -(
ClassAct
27-01-2006 13:43:22
[quotef5349d43e4="Wolfeman"]Not sure what you did. Explain it a little clearer. Like did a green for DLF, he sent me $50 half.com...[/quotef5349d43e4]
I did 2 greens for him for 100 in half, then paid a lil egold and trades giftcards for about another 100, and for the xbox360, i sent him a check, well sent his "gf" the check, I gave the info I had from that to Theysayjump the other day trying to help to find his addy
Peinecone
27-01-2006 15:03:14
For all those who have spent the GC's and received the stuff, i would not file anything or call half right now. There has been no indication so far that they are coming after anybody for money back. This is the same boat i am in, and i do not plan on any action right now. I think they would have at least frozen out ebay accounts if they planned on charging us. But so far, the only people this has happened to were people who bought from nesquik, and he said they were probably bought with a stolen CC, not from DLF.
jack001
27-01-2006 15:08:32
just to let you know too peinecone, emoney, who emailed half.com about why his cards stopped working and got a response back from them saying ask whoever sold the cards for a refund, actually had already spent part of his giftcards. I think if they were going to ask for money back from him, they wouldnt have just sent an email saying get the money back from the person that sold you the cards, but they would have instead frozen his account at that point, which they didnt do.
punjabGTRR34
27-01-2006 15:57:27
Thanks for letting me know. Hopefully everything will get fixed.
tracemhunter
27-01-2006 17:35:43
about what scarlett is saying, she is sayin, "WHAT'S GOING ON?!?!"
i remember watching it.
PoPoJiJo
28-01-2006 01:29:20
My theory on how he got the gift certificates
My bet is that he used Identity theft (just like that other guy who got caught w/ a ton of illegal gc to half.com) by getting peoples cc's and purchasing huge amounts of gc's,
The reasons I believe this theory to be correct
1. He has at least 5 ID's that he has seemed to use w/ complete success for paypal and other things - these are probably stolen identitys
2. It would be easy for half.com to know which gc were bad since they would be mass purchases made around the same day from the same area (using ip) also Im sure people would be reporting this
3. Another guy used this exact method to get a bunch of half.com gc why not DLF aswell
4. He knew that eventually the cc would be reported and his gig would be up this is why he wanted to trade only for things that couldn't be retracted or traced
just my 2 cents
jack001
28-01-2006 01:35:24
hmm yeah, except until this past week he accepted stormpay, and as far as I know stormpay is like paypal and can be traced, and it can obviously be retracted too because someone did that to him
PoPoJiJo
28-01-2006 01:40:43
which doesn't really mean anything since if he is stealing identitys it could have just been a stolen account that he changed the password on but then again who knows as this is all just guessing
jack001
28-01-2006 01:44:21
yeah, the only reason i dont agree with you is because the all the people that bought with nesquiks giftcards got their ebay accounts suspended within 24hours, and its assumed that the guy nesquik bought from was committing credit card fraud and thats why....but if dude was commiting mass credit card fraud, wouldnt they suspend the ebay accounts of people that used the certificates at the same time that they cancelled the certificates? thats what doesnt make sense to me..
PoPoJiJo
28-01-2006 01:54:02
Well I don't know ebay policy very well so I don't know and I didn't know all that stuff about nesquick either I thought he had bought some from DLF that were bad(as well as some other sketchy business with him) and some from some other dude at some other forum that were good so what u said was new news to me
what I was reffering to was this
http//www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/01/ebay_hacker.html
oh yeah I just read in another article that that dude was 17 when he commited the crimes so if he could do that 3 years ago....
phunkstar
28-01-2006 12:08:06
oops.
Wolfeman
28-01-2006 12:09:49
This guy stole ten of thousands of dollars. Don't think they aren't going to go after him. Especially when eBay is involved...
LucaBella
28-01-2006 12:40:07
[b06abe87ab4]Thanks Amazon, You've been no help at all![/b06abe87ab4]
Thank you for writing to Amazon.com.
Our records show that the gift certificate you ordered for
email==dudelovesfinch1035@gmail.comdudelovesfinch1035@gmail.com=dudelovesfinch1035@gmail.comdudelovesfinch1035@gmail.com/email was successfully sent on January 18,
2006, and that it has been successfully redeemed into his account.
Please understand that, for reasons of security and privacy, we are
not able to share any further information about the recipient's use
of the gift certificate.
I apologize for the inconvenience regarding this situation.
Regretfully, our customer service department will not be able to
offer any additional insight or action on these matters. I suggest
you to contact the local legal authorities regarding your concern.
Thank you for shopping at Amazon.com.
Best regards,
Naresh
Amazon.com Customer Service
http//www.amazon.com
==============================
Brutus
28-01-2006 12:42:41
I got the same letter, but mine was from Mujeeb. I wonder where their customer service center is located.
pokernerdaa
28-01-2006 12:43:10
i think dudelovesfinch is sexy P
Wolfeman
28-01-2006 12:44:18
[quote618259cd5e="PokerNerdAA"]i think dudelovesfinch is sexy P[/quote618259cd5e]
STFU. This isn't a joke and no one needs random spamming here...
theysayjump
28-01-2006 14:20:54
[quote99be440263="PokerNerdAA"]i think dudelovesfinch is sexy P[/quote99be440263]
Why you have +1 karma, your "girly" thread has 815 replies and why you haven't been banned yet is beyond me. roll
Brutus
29-01-2006 08:55:42
I tried following up with Amazon again and this is the reply I got.
[quoteecc6d3f5bc]Greetings from Amazon.com.
I have reviewed our previous correspondence and your order.
I sympathize with your frustration in this matter. However, please
understand that the information provided in our last message
correctly represents our policy at this time.
I am unsure of all of the circumstances in this transaction. But in
looking further into your order and seeing that you were trading one
gift certificate for another, I do not believe that this matter
involves us directly. I have contacted another department here at
Amazon.com for further research, although I suggest that you contact
the site where the original transaction took place.
Thanks for writing to us at Amazon.com.
Best regards,
Stacie S
Amazon.com Customer Service[/quoteecc6d3f5bc]
The funny thing is I never once mentioned about trading GCs. I think this means that they are getting a number of complaints and are taking the stance of 'We don't LEGALY' owe these people anything, screw them as customers'.
Broken Ego
29-01-2006 12:23:51
[quotec62f81c1e5="PokerNerdAA"]i think dudelovesfinch is sexy P[/quotec62f81c1e5]
Ok is it just me or does would cc40 make these post?
Th3Great1
29-01-2006 14:25:21
Would a chargeback work against amazon?
EasyAs456
29-01-2006 14:30:36
I don't know but this sounds like the scam of the century.. Atleast some people got something out of it (hopefully Half.com doesn't fuck you guys over and gives all those who lost there accounts back there accounts)
Peinecone
29-01-2006 14:36:50
[quote75e089a419="Th3Great1"]Would a chargeback work against amazon?[/quote75e089a419]
I doubt it would hold up. After it was investigated by your bank, Amazon would easily win i think.
Brutus
29-01-2006 14:45:50
Amazon is not doing anything wrong, except setting themselves up for some bad publicity.
Crynos
29-01-2006 15:03:19
[quote7c7af6e72f="Brutus"]Amazon is not doing anything wrong, except setting themselves up for some bad publicity.[/quote7c7af6e72f]Hmmm, multiple complaints against a user with 11k balance in his account and they dont freeze it? Thats doing something wrong imo.
akalic
30-01-2006 00:55:31
So i didn't read all 7 threads, but i'm hearing some people got rejected from amazon? No luck guys? that really sucks, best of luck..
skillet2003
31-01-2006 21:07:02
this is bad, i didn't realize it was so serious until i started trading with someone, i did an offer and they were going to buy me a couple of things from half.com using these gcs i guess and now he can't.... affects me too then i guess but not nearly this bad. hope everything works out, best of luck.
xztiger
06-02-2006 18:45:35
did anyone get their money back? sorry i dont want to read through this whole thing
ilanbg
07-02-2006 12:29:17
I was wondering about the outcome of this as well.
Don't tell me he's going to get away with it. ?
pokernerdaa
21-02-2006 17:14:03
[quote3711ce878b="ilanbg"]I was wondering about the outcome of this as well.
Don't tell me he's going to get away with it. ?[/quote3711ce878b]
good question. I heard someone mention "DLF" scammed like $30,000 or something, and I was told it wasn't true. Apprently it is. I used to talk to him on AIM back in like March, I asked him to trade a few times. Yeah so what happened?
ilanbg
21-02-2006 17:48:21
So yeah there are many threads on it, and you're posting in one about seven pages long. Shameful.
pokernerdaa
21-02-2006 20:00:02
is it just me or were you the previous post asking pretty much the same thing I did? Anyway I'm sorry I chose the "wrong thread" to ask the result.....
PLEASE ILANBG, FORGIVE ME
theysayjump
21-02-2006 22:16:16
[quote665831c15d="PokerNerdAA"]is it just me or were you the previous post asking pretty much the same thing I did? Anyway I'm sorry I chose the "wrong thread" to ask the result.....
PLEASE ILANBG, FORGIVE ME[/quote665831c15d]
No I think ilanbg meant that you are asking "What happened" when you are posting in a thread that explains what happened.
ilanbg
22-02-2006 03:39:48
I misunderstood. I thought you meant, "what happened up to this point?"
Mia culpa.
UniPrize Media
26-02-2006 13:08:04
Did you guys give up?
Or is the progress being kept a secret?
ilanbg
26-02-2006 14:31:17
I think they gave up. Pathetic, really.
JordanE
28-02-2006 20:20:56
This is really fucking sad i'm sorry guys but i have to agree this is really pathetic, Pretty much everyone said "Theres no way this guy is going to get away with it". Damn it looks like he did has everyone forgotten about the $30,000+ this guy stole from you?
ilanbg
28-02-2006 20:31:57
So would this forum pay me $10,000 to go to DLF's house and "convince him" to give the money back to us?
That's a fair commission, no?
Wolfeman
28-02-2006 20:39:57
If I had gotten scammed I would've at least made sure he got in legal trouble but all I could do is give advice since I wasn't directly involved...
NOStradamus
03-03-2006 21:27:42
Damn I can't believe this... 30 thousand fucking dollars and this is it
Go check the scammers section and see how many people are crying over 30 dollars
wow
UniPrize Media
09-03-2006 16:47:19
How come this idiot is still not banned?
theysayjump
09-03-2006 16:50:18
[quotebbc53a452a="ulenie"]How come this idiot is still not banned?[/quotebbc53a452a]
Because he's my friend.
What good would banning him do?
UniPrize Media
09-03-2006 16:53:27
[quotebf0b3cf503="theysayjump"][quotebf0b3cf503="ulenie"]How come this idiot is still not banned?[/quotebf0b3cf503]
Because he's my friend.
What good would banning him do?[/quotebf0b3cf503]
I guess...
anchitloser90
15-07-2008 08:36:45
jesus
tylerc
15-07-2008 08:41:07
This is over two years old....
ESMcCready
15-07-2008 16:21:22
...er yea...
this is bbbaaddd and really old but...what happen in the end?
Did you guys really give up on it?
TravMan162
15-07-2008 16:23:57
the worst part is that two year old comment caused page 8 to open up.
tylerc
15-07-2008 18:17:36
He got a pretty hefty prison sentence if I remember correctly, don't remember the details though.