Until I talk to finch, no one buy gift certs
bballp6699
25-01-2006 17:53:35
I bought $5000 worth of certs off him. I had $1200 left. Today I tried to buy a book and it says my last 12 cards are invalid...
This may be something out of his control, but until he explains, I would wait.
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 17:55:50
[quotee0b816f30d="bballp6699"]I bought $5000 worth of certs off him. I had $1200 left. Today I tried to buy a book and it says my last 12 cards are invalid...
This may be something out of his control, but until he explains, I would wait.[/quotee0b816f30d]
don't even tell me this.
Chris
25-01-2006 17:57:13
I need to talk to him too.. cry
bballp6699
25-01-2006 17:57:43
One of the cards I used had $5 left and now it says invalid, so someone killed them...
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 18:01:44
[quote12df82f7f8="Chris"]I need to talk to him too.. cry[/quote12df82f7f8]
why do you need to talk to him? gulp
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 18:04:55
fudge i just ordered $1200 worth of half.com certs
Chris
25-01-2006 18:07:37
[quote2b159a7704="Blink182=Gone"][quote2b159a7704="Chris"]I need to talk to him too.. cry[/quote2b159a7704]
why do you need to talk to him? gulp[/quote2b159a7704]
I gave him the $300 giftcert that I got from FreePay for half.com gift certificates. The giftcert I gave him now shows as "Fully Redeemed" (so he already spent it) and I still haven't received anything.. I gave him the giftcert yesterday at 2PM... yesterday at 830PM he said he was sending the giftcerts... it is now 910PM of the [i2b159a7704]following[/i2b159a7704] day and I still haven't received anything... roll
dudeextrem2000
25-01-2006 18:20:16
DLF please respond...
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 18:21:31
[quoteb5868ae129="dudeextrem2000"]DLF please respond...[/quoteb5868ae129]
I haven't seen him online within the last day...maybe it's just me ? ?
bigchan2k
25-01-2006 18:21:35
Hmm, so its not only me. I had $1200 left plus another with like $13 on it. Now they are all invalid.
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 18:25:09
omg and i just sent him a $590 amazon gc which redeemed like half an hour before i read this topic
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 18:26:10
I'm thinking maybe he sold the same certificate codes more than once.
...perhaps by accident?
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 18:26:36
I hope...
nate08
25-01-2006 18:31:47
Wow this is bad...
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 18:32:22
That doesn't explain why the partially used ones would become invalid. Maybe someone at half.com finally caught on.
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 18:34:22
[quotea7c282735b="hehehhehe"]That doesn't explain why the partially used ones would become invalid. Maybe someone at half.com finally caught on.[/quotea7c282735b]
I wonder if he did get them illegally then?
theysayjump
25-01-2006 18:35:39
I've been contacted by a few members today about the lack of communication from DLF since last night.
He hasn't been on for 24 hours now.
damac
25-01-2006 18:36:06
i have no idea if anything is up, but i was in on the first batch that theysayjump was brokering for us, and i paid $1000 in amazon to him, no word on gcs being delivered yet.
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 18:36:40
[quote09036e6e54="theysayjump"]I've been contacted by a few members today about the lack of communication from DLF since last night.
He hasn't been on for 24 hours now.[/quote09036e6e54]
theysay...keep our deal on hold until a response is made from DLF. (obviously)
theysayjump
25-01-2006 18:38:04
Yeah I am. The only money/GC's I have left are from you (Blink) and dudextrem2000.
When I spoke to DLF the day I gave him GC's from damac, Crynos and hehehhehe he spent them all within an hour. That was on Saturday I believe? shrug
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 18:40:23
[quote6cf875e2a2="Blink182=Gone"]
theysay...keep our deal on hold until a response is made from DLF. (obviously)[/quote6cf875e2a2]
I really hate the person that held our first group up. I paid on Saturday.
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 18:42:20
[quote4cb4bc11e1="hehehhehe"][quote4cb4bc11e1="Blink182=Gone"]
theysay...keep our deal on hold until a response is made from DLF. (obviously)[/quote4cb4bc11e1]
I really hate the person that held our first group up. I paid on Saturday.[/quote4cb4bc11e1]
dude, we had paypal problems...i'm sorry, we didn't know about paypal's F'n $150 per-day spending limit.
damac
25-01-2006 18:43:20
theysayjump, the last pm i had from you said you were waiting on payments from other people BEFORE sending it to him.
so now you are saying that you forwarded my and others amazon gc's before getting the whole pool first?
so what changed since that pm, why were payments forwarded before the whole pot was complete?
kdollar
25-01-2006 18:46:38
he could be pulling the biggest scam of all time, pretty scary.....but i doubt it.
chazmann
25-01-2006 18:46:41
Do you guys think that there is a direct corrilation between dudelovesfinch getting scammed out of 4k and everyone's codes going haywire?
pochacco
25-01-2006 18:48:36
heheh lucky me... I pmed DLF about the 4,500 gc... was thinking of paying him.... at least I'll hold on to the $ before paying him now.
chazmann
25-01-2006 18:49:15
[quotef331169763="kdollar"]he could be pulling the biggest scam of all time, pretty scary.....but i doubt it.[/quotef331169763]
Well, that would be pretttttty smart if he did that. Start off at 50 bucks and work his way to the thousands...get the respect and credibility of the people....then do a few 4k deals, and BOOM. Gone. I know I could live off of 10k for awhile....okay, 8 months tops.
dudeextrem2000
25-01-2006 18:51:38
[quoteb98cf46fb6="chazmann"][quoteb98cf46fb6="kdollar"]he could be pulling the biggest scam of all time, pretty scary.....but i doubt it.[/quoteb98cf46fb6]
Well, that would be pretttttty smart if he did that. Start off at 50 bucks and work his way to the thousands...get the respect and credibility of the people....then do a few 4k deals, and BOOM. Gone. I know I could live off of 10k for awhile....okay, 8 months tops.[/quoteb98cf46fb6]
...dude... this sucks SO BAAD
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 18:52:20
wow i am so shocked..
bigchan2k
25-01-2006 18:53:14
I don't want to jump to conclusions here, but I am ready to assume the worst has happened. I'm glad I spent most of mine while they were still good.
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 18:54:30
I don't think he planned anything so let's not start the "he was going to scam us all" theories.
chazmann
25-01-2006 18:56:55
Nothing wrong with speculating.
Truth is, no one knows what has happened. So saying that he DIDNT scam us is premature.
GiftMonsterKyle
25-01-2006 18:58:47
[quote01bdc4e993="Th3Great1"]omg and i just sent him a $590 amazon gc which redeemed like half an hour before i read this topic[/quote01bdc4e993]
If this guy is telling the truth, then he's probably scamming.
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 19:01:14
[b843de38cf8]until DLF responds....I'll buy any amount of unused+currently working codes. PM me or AIM...to discuss first.[/b843de38cf8][/size843de38cf8]
Iloveipods2
25-01-2006 19:01:41
isn't dudelf a mod over at a4f forum?
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:03:05
Its chill, if he does bolt its not to hard to screw him over (someone has to have his address=authorities contacted=messed)
fgr_admin
25-01-2006 19:05:17
lmfao, sorry guys I just think this is too funny.
Ummm where did you guys think he was getting $50,000.00 worth of half.com GC?
Legally?
If he was really getting these things so cheap why didn't he just buy 100 xbxox 360s and resell them himself. Would have made cash (money orders) instead of getting more GC that can only be spent on other items.
That never made cense to me. If he would have been asking for cash yea I could see it, but to get GC that he had to redeem for trinkets????? Why not just buy the trinkets in the first place?
Well good luck. Thats a lot of cash.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 19:05:35
Ok, let's NOT jump to conclusions, however, let's all put our facts together...
1) My certs worked for a good month.
2) DLF doesn't have paypal, but why? Maybe he doesn't want his address to be known?
3) He likes amazon gift cards, through email. Not as easily tracked?
4) He hasn't been on in a day, right before all this happened.
5) I've searched google for half.com generators, nothing came up or anything related.
6) He said he got them for 10%, but why. Was he expected to sell to advertise and not for his own benefit? Possible reason why killed...
7) Why weren't any of us contacted through half.com
8) Why all of a sudden today?
bigchan2k
25-01-2006 19:06:26
[quote70d82d71fd="Blink182=Gone"]until DLF responds....I'll buy any amount of unused+currently working codes. PM me or AIM...to discuss first.[/quote70d82d71fd]
I think all the ones purchased from DLF are now invalid. I don't think anyone would have any that are still good.
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:06:34
FUCK FUCK FUCK, the last $200 i had are invalid now
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 19:07:53
[quote4851f0a0c9="bigchan2k"][quote4851f0a0c9="Blink182=Gone"]until DLF responds....I'll buy any amount of unused+currently working codes. PM me or AIM...to discuss first.[/quote4851f0a0c9]
I think all the ones purchased from DLF are now invalid. I don't think anyone would have any that are still good.[/quote4851f0a0c9]
I just used $200 of them right now.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 19:08:24
[quoteadf3a43f07="fgr_admin"]lmfao, sorry guys I just think this is too funny.
Ummm where did you guys think he was getting $50,000.00 worth of half.com GC?
Legally?
If he was really getting these things so cheap why didn't he just buy 100 xbxox 360s and resell them himself. Would have made cash (money orders) instead of getting more GC that can only be spent on other items.
That never made cense to me. If he would have been asking for cash yea I could see it, but to get GC that he had to redeem for trinkets????? Why not just buy the trinkets in the first place?
Well good luck. Thats a lot of cash.[/quoteadf3a43f07]
I find that ironic because when I said he was talking about too much money now and I wanted more information, you said
[quoteadf3a43f07="fgr_admin"]
He has stated on several occasions his cousin works for ebay and he buys in bulk.
I would assume he only pays 10 cents on the dollar for them. If not cheaper, since half.com is a dying horse for ebay.[/quoteadf3a43f07]
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 19:08:45
[quote3f4dc848ec="Crynos"]Its chill, if he does bolt its not to hard to screw him over (someone has to have his address=authorities contacted=messed)[/quote3f4dc848ec]
Exactly, there are enough ways to track him (especially those codes - I'm sure half.com would love to know what's going on if they don't already).
And Amazon says
Amazon.com will have the right to close customer accounts and request alternative forms of payment if a fraudulently obtained gift certificate is either redeemed through the Amazon.com Web site or is redeemed and used to make purchases on the Amazon.com Web site.
fgr_admin
25-01-2006 19:09:28
[quote663ef8ca8f="bballp6699"]8) Why all of a sudden today?[/quote663ef8ca8f]
maybe cause ebay finally caught on?
bballp6699
25-01-2006 19:09:56
Well, worst comes to worst and I'll still have made about $400 off the deal. This is assuming that someone else doesn't get involved and I lose out on everything.
Koleran
25-01-2006 19:13:20
guys, do not jump to conclusions calling him a scammer JUST YET
remember, that he got scammed yesterday from receiving a stormpay payment
MAYBE, he was trying to sell the ones that he gave that guy as fast as possible..and made that mistake and didn't mean it to be intentional
remember, this is the FIRST negative experience out of all his dealings in here and A4F
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:13:54
[quote3eb71e4c44="bballp6699"]Well, worst comes to worst and I'll still have made about $400 off the deal. This is assuming that someone else doesn't get involved and I lose out on everything.[/quote3eb71e4c44]Ive lost $250 if worst comes to worst( I cant afford that, im gonna try to get the GC frozen, if its legit it shouldnt matter because i havent received the cards yet.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 19:14:57
More thoughts
Maybe he was just not going to allow this guy that scammed him to get the best of him and decided to tell his cousin about it, who then promptly killed all certs by mistake...
I just don't understand how, if generated, half.com would know exactly which ones were generated by him.
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 19:14:59
i lost $590 and yo ucant freeze the cards i tried...
fgr_admin
25-01-2006 19:16:46
[quote3010abab8f="bballp6699"][quote3010abab8f="fgr_admin"]lmfao, sorry guys I just think this is too funny.
Ummm where did you guys think he was getting $50,000.00 worth of half.com GC?
Legally?
If he was really getting these things so cheap why didn't he just buy 100 xbxox 360s and resell them himself. Would have made cash (money orders) instead of getting more GC that can only be spent on other items.
That never made cense to me. If he would have been asking for cash yea I could see it, but to get GC that he had to redeem for trinkets????? Why not just buy the trinkets in the first place?
Well good luck. Thats a lot of cash.[/quote3010abab8f]
I find that ironic because when I said he was talking about too much money now and I wanted more information, you said
[quote3010abab8f="fgr_admin"]
He has stated on several occasions his cousin works for ebay and he buys in bulk.
I would assume he only pays 10 cents on the dollar for them. If not cheaper, since half.com is a dying horse for ebay.[/quote3010abab8f][/quote3010abab8f]
I simply quoted what he had told me. I have discussed this outside of the forum on several occasions. Since thread bashing isnt allowed, I didnt post any anti remarks.
Plus if anyone here truly thought they were getting something for nothing then shame on you. It is assumed by law that if you pruchase something for well below market value it is assumed stolen.
shamash
25-01-2006 19:19:20
I doubt he got them for 10 cents on the dollar. I'm guessing they're generated.
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:21:14
[quoteea56157790="Th3Great1"]i lost $590 and yo ucant freeze the cards i tried...[/quoteea56157790]How far did you get? The lady i talked to on the phone said she was forwarding it to the concerns department.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 19:22:38
I don't know, I'm still not seeing it. What kind of absolute idiot thinks he can generate that much in gift certificates and get away with it? He posts on this forum, we could easily get his IP. You think he's been using a proxy since he joined? I think not...
Just doesn't seem right to me. I'm thinking more the person that was selling them to him killed them all or half.com did. Either way, he owes me some $.
Koleran
25-01-2006 19:22:52
[quote03004ff39c="shamash"]I doubt he got them for 10 cents on the dollar. I'm guessing they're generated.[/quote03004ff39c]
generated? ROFL BS
do you know HOW MANY GCs he's sold to people and the gcs have worked just fine? until today
shamash
25-01-2006 19:23:26
I just pmed him a couple days ago asking if he accepted egold. good think he didn't reply.
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:23:45
[quote84adee26d4="bballp6699"]I don't know, I'm still not seeing it. What kind of absolute idiot thinks he can generate that much in gift certificates and get away with it? He posts on this forum, we could easily get his IP. You think he's been using a proxy since he joined? I think not...
Just doesn't seem right to me. I'm thinking more the person that was selling them to him killed them all or half.com did. Either way, he owes me some $.[/quote84adee26d4]More than that, you think there isnt a site owner who'll help us out? DLF has joined alot of sites.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 19:25:22
Part of me says to be patient and wait for him to respond, but then another part of me says he's never coming back...
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Th3Great1
25-01-2006 19:25:23
Crynos the lady told me i cant do anything since the card was already redeemed
Peinecone
25-01-2006 19:26:23
i sold him my computer for GC's a while back and he had me send it to his aunt (or he said.) So i do have an address to maybe get a hold of him. Just trying to help if he really did bail.
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:26:39
[quotec36a50af3c="Th3Great1"]Crynos the lady told me i cant do anything since the card was already redeemed[/quotec36a50af3c]Hmmm, maybe she liked my voice more D We'll see if the concerns department does anything about it.
Again, this isnt harming DLF at all because even if hes legit he hasnt sent my the half.com certs yet.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 19:27:00
Send it to his aunt? This shit gets weirder and weirder.
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:27:51
[quotecddb5ba379="bballp6699"]Send it to his aunt? This shit gets weirder and weirder.[/quotecddb5ba379]Yeah, thats shady as hell. Scammers never win though.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 19:28:29
I'm more concerned about half.com coming after us.
ilanbg
25-01-2006 19:28:34
[quote838849bf40="bballp6699"]
2) DLF doesn't have paypal, but why? Maybe he doesn't want his address to be known?[/quote838849bf40]
lichargebacksli
He's outta here... maybe this was his plan from the beginning or maybe half.com caught on, but if he has 10K then he has a lot of incentive to quit the freebie game. DIY pays more anyway and he doesn't need to trade anymore, especially since it would take a few years to gather 10K from trades.
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:30:53
[quoteb48362f510="ilanbg"][quoteb48362f510="bballp6699"]
2) DLF doesn't have paypal, but why? Maybe he doesn't want his address to be known?[/quoteb48362f510]
lichargebacksli
He's outta here... maybe this was his plan from the beginning or maybe half.com caught on, but if he has 10K then he has a lot of incentive to quit the freebie game. DIY pays more anyway and he doesn't need to trade anymore, especially since it would take a few years to gather 10K from trades.[/quoteb48362f510]You cant just walk away with 10k though, its not possible, ive seen people try to pull shit with little sums like $500 and get screwed by the local police.
Brutus
25-01-2006 19:31:26
Just to add to the list mine are no longer valid either.
shamash
25-01-2006 19:33:09
Hopefully he comes back and figures this shit out.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 19:33:56
Even if he comes back, I don't see him having more certs. Atleast he can pay us back what we paid...
I really hoped it was just me... (
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 19:34:26
http//www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/01/ebay_hacker.html ...................
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:35:31
I think we should start preparing for the worst, we have a better chance if we act quickly
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 19:36:59
[quote8c3f030877="Th3Great1"]http//www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/01/ebay_hacker.html ...................[/quote8c3f030877]
that has nothing to do with this? lol
bballp6699
25-01-2006 19:37:32
[quotebd90e7a26b="Th3Great1"]http//www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2006/01/ebay_hacker.html ...................[/quotebd90e7a26b]
- I think he had more then $32,000
- I think he did say he was Spanish...
- He didn't seem like he was bright enough to hack into ebay.
- If he was on trial, would he still be selling two days ago?
Maybe I'm just in denial...
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 19:37:42
[quote70cbd9d44d="Crynos"]You cant just walk away with 10k though, its not possible, ive seen people try to pull shit with little sums like $500 and get screwed by the local police.[/quote70cbd9d44d]
I had an experience on ebay where a guy sold some computers for $400 and didn't deliver (I got mine after a while) and the DOJ went after him.
I really don't think he'd run since he'd get in deep(er) shit. All he needs to do is give us our money back and he'd still will have made money.
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 19:37:44
yea it does some dude hacked ebay and used cc info to buy half.com cers....i unno lol leave me alone
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 19:39:32
[quote292b5763b6="Th3Great1"]yea it does some dude hacked ebay and used cc info to buy half.com cers....i unno lol leave me alone[/quote292b5763b6]
haha, lol
ilanbg
25-01-2006 19:40:18
It makes sense. That obviously isn't him, and that's not necessarily how he got the certificates, but the point is it's possible and we can be more or less sure he wasn't getting these things legit.
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:40:32
[quotee220188ff1="hehehhehe"][quotee220188ff1="Crynos"]You cant just walk away with 10k though, its not possible, ive seen people try to pull shit with little sums like $500 and get screwed by the local police.[/quotee220188ff1]
I had an experience on ebay where a guy sold some computers for $400 and didn't deliver (I got mine after a while) and the DOJ went after him.
I really don't think he'd run since he'd get in deep(er) shit. All he needs to do is give us our money back and he'd still will have made money.[/quotee220188ff1]Exactly, it happens alot on hardforum, the scammer always gets caught in the end.
That would really suck if he was the one in that news article
bballp6699
25-01-2006 19:41:32
[quote100ec1997d="hehehhehe"][quote100ec1997d="Crynos"]You cant just walk away with 10k though, its not possible, ive seen people try to pull shit with little sums like $500 and get screwed by the local police.[/quote100ec1997d]
I had an experience on ebay where a guy sold some computers for $400 and didn't deliver (I got mine after a while) and the DOJ went after him.
All he needs to do is give us our money back and he'd still will have made money.[/quote100ec1997d]
No offense, but if half.com caught on, I think they could get some more serious people on him then us. They'll catch his ass and do more then make him pay us back. I doubt that would be on their game plan.
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:42:50
His profile on A4F says hes from Miami, FL
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 19:42:54
no im not saying he is the one in the news article, im just saying that could be the method he obtained the certs
bballp6699
25-01-2006 19:44:40
Yeah, but the fact remains...
Could he be smart enough to hack ebay and dumb enough to think he'd get away with posting all over a forum like this about it?
Peinecone
25-01-2006 19:45:54
[quoteb94e4456c6="Crynos"]His profile on A4F says hes from Miami, FL[/quoteb94e4456c6]
His liAuntli lives in Hollywood, Fl
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 19:48:53
hmm well i know his name from the payment i sent him in paypal a while ago and i know he lives in fl and whitepages does show me his full address and ph. #
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:49:09
If this turns out how it looks like it turns out should we contact ebay? Or just go straight to the miami DA and FBI internet fraud?
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:49:58
[quotee66f74922c="Th3Great1"]hmm well i know his name from the payment i sent him in paypal a while ago and i know he lives in fl and whitepages does show me his full address and ph. #[/quotee66f74922c]Call him, be polite and just tell him he should come explain himself.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 19:50:52
Yeah, let us know what happens. It'll scare the shit out of him. If he doesn't help, post it.
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 19:51:08
its probably too late now...
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:52:03
[quotec004c8f79d="Th3Great1"]its probably too late now...[/quotec004c8f79d]its 1053 on the east coast, no way a 22 year old is sleeping (if you meant time, if not at least we know hes a scammer for sure)
Peinecone
25-01-2006 19:52:11
[quote1d3bc5cda1="Th3Great1"]hmm well i know his name from the payment i sent him in paypal a while ago and i know he lives in fl and whitepages does show me his full address and ph. #[/quote1d3bc5cda1]
Is it 1425, apt 106?
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 19:52:19
[quotede906c0542="Th3Great1"]its probably too late now...[/quotede906c0542]
No, I don't think so, given the situation.
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 19:52:23
[quoted334d7def4="Peinecone"][quoted334d7def4="Crynos"]His profile on A4F says hes from Miami, FL[/quoted334d7def4]
His liAuntli lives in Hollywood, Fl[/quoted334d7def4]
hey do you reemember his "aunts" name?
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 19:52:46
[quotea900f49cef="Peinecone"][quotea900f49cef="Th3Great1"]hmm well i know his name from the payment i sent him in paypal a while ago and i know he lives in fl and whitepages does show me his full address and ph. #[/quotea900f49cef]
Is it 1425, apt 106?[/quotea900f49cef]
umm thats not the one i got..
wow sucks for all of u i was gonna buy luckily i didnt.
tylerc
25-01-2006 19:52:56
Thank god I didn't send him that $50 Amazon yet.
Peinecone
25-01-2006 19:53:45
[quote2bae50c623="Th3Great1"][quote2bae50c623="Peinecone"][quote2bae50c623="Crynos"]His profile on A4F says hes from Miami, FL[/quote2bae50c623]
His liAuntli lives in Hollywood, Fl[/quote2bae50c623]
hey do you reemember his "aunts" name?[/quote2bae50c623]Maria Ramirez
Chris
25-01-2006 19:54:00
Should we get Jake involved in this? Get Dude's 360, and his newly approved ps3 account on hold.. ? ?
srichter
25-01-2006 19:54:32
[quotef343cca41f="Peinecone"][quotef343cca41f="Th3Great1"][quotef343cca41f="Peinecone"][quotef343cca41f="Crynos"]His profile on A4F says hes from Miami, FL[/quotef343cca41f]
His liAuntli lives in Hollywood, Fl[/quotef343cca41f]
hey do you reemember his "aunts" name?[/quotef343cca41f]Maria Ramirez[/quotef343cca41f]
Maybe she's related to my MetaReward account manager ]
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 19:55:15
hmm well on the paypal account i send payment on its something else i would love to post his info but i dont want to incase he comes back...
Allen626
25-01-2006 19:55:28
[quote8319a97c69="Chris"]Should we get Jake involved in this? Get Dude's 360, and his newly approved ps3 account on hold.. ? ?[/quote8319a97c69]
We could get his information that way...
Crynos
25-01-2006 19:56:11
[quote63be872b25="Allen626"][quote63be872b25="Chris"]Should we get Jake involved in this? Get Dude's 360, and his newly approved ps3 account on hold.. ? ?[/quote63be872b25]
We could get his information that way...[/quote63be872b25]I doubt Jake would give it. Did DLF sign up for fusioncash?
Peinecone
25-01-2006 19:56:32
[quotea17d34d54a="Chris"]Should we get Jake involved in this? Get Dude's 360, and his newly approved ps3 account on hold.. ? ?[/quotea17d34d54a]
Maybe after it is found out for sure he bailed, they would be put on hold for misleading and fruading refs. But nothing he can do now.
srichter
25-01-2006 19:56:36
Everyone who has any info on him send it to me; I'll compile it all into one list incase we need to do something with it.
edit He doesn't have a FusionCash account
hollywood, fl has a dealership helio motors got my teg from there )
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 19:59:46
you know what would be really funny if this was one huuuge misunderstanding he just couldn't come online for a day and soem accidently killed all of the half.com certs he had
boii wouldnt we have a big laugh about this then...
Crynos
25-01-2006 20:00:11
I called the number thegreat1 gave me and i got a lady who said i had the wrong number (
bballp6699
25-01-2006 20:00:15
The name he used to send me the gift certs was Jlilie Blilililiy.
Could very well be made up.
theysayjump
25-01-2006 20:00:28
He's from or posting from Florida (Miami).
The reason I sent damacs, Crynos' and hehehhehe's GC's to him without having the full amount, was because initially it was thought that were was a bonus. Since he posted that there would be none, I asked him if since there was no longer a bonus if I just sent him the others' GC's could he send me the Half GC's without waiting for the full payment.
Now that I look back on the PM's he doesn't explicitly state that this would be fine, only implies it. I sent them, and whenever I asked for GC's he igonred it.
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 20:00:52
did you ask for finch? or check pm
Chris
25-01-2006 20:01:12
[quote5afe2e7d5f="bballp6699"]The name he used to send me the gift certs was Jlilie Blilililiy.
Could very well be made up.[/quote5afe2e7d5f]
I got the same name from the emails he sent me..
shamash
25-01-2006 20:01:32
We don't know that he's even frauding yet, just to remind you guys.. he may be back tomorrow.
Crynos
25-01-2006 20:01:55
[quote1eed01bdf5="Th3Great1"]did you ask for finch? or check pm[/quote1eed01bdf5]Yeah, i asked for finch, she told me i had the wrong number. It couldve been his mom who didnt know what the hell i was talking about when i said finch
bballp6699
25-01-2006 20:02:13
[quoteb8643ae689="shamash"]We don't know that he's even frauding yet, just to remind you guys.. he may be back tomorrow.[/quoteb8643ae689]
Hense why I didn't post his full name.
tylerc
25-01-2006 20:02:15
We could always find him and slit his throat? shrug
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 20:02:20
yea thats what i am saying and we could all have a big laugh about it
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 20:02:31
[quote3c28b987c9="Crynos"][quote3c28b987c9="Th3Great1"]did you ask for finch? or check pm[/quote3c28b987c9]Yeah, i asked for finch, she told me i had the wrong number. It couldve been his mom who didnt know what the hell i was talking about when i said finch[/quote3c28b987c9]
please, like dudelovesfinch is his real name.
haha
bballp6699
25-01-2006 20:02:43
[quote3e4d34ecaa="Crynos"][quote3e4d34ecaa="Th3Great1"]did you ask for finch? or check pm[/quote3e4d34ecaa]Yeah, i asked for finch, she told me i had the wrong number. It couldve been his mom who didnt know what the hell i was talking about when i said finch[/quote3e4d34ecaa]
You asked for the name of a fucking bird?
Crynos
25-01-2006 20:03:00
[quote9e75bf240f="shamash"]We don't know that he's even frauding yet, just to remind you guys.. he may be back tomorrow.[/quote9e75bf240f]Its just so shady, the day he doesnt come on the forums is the day all the certs stop working?
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 20:03:15
lmao i asked him and he once told me that everybody calls him finch...
srichter
25-01-2006 20:04:30
He last logged into A4F last night; for all we know it's just a coincidence that he hasn't been on yet and they all got cancelled some how.
shamash
25-01-2006 20:04:46
calling + Asking for Finch... jesus christ.
That makes this whole deal worth it imo.
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 20:05:06
yea i hope to god thats what happened i cant afford to be scammed lol
bballp6699
25-01-2006 20:05:27
Well, there are three different possible aunts in Hollywood Florida.
Koleran
25-01-2006 20:06:09
Finch is a band
from Temecula, CA
I know since I'm around here )
shamash
25-01-2006 20:06:45
its a pretty popular band i think.
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 20:06:58
never heard of it...
Koleran
25-01-2006 20:07:28
[quoted2d865a533="shamash"]its a pretty popular band i think.[/quoted2d865a533]
yeah
tylerc
25-01-2006 20:07:51
Finch is pretty good.
idrinklisterine
25-01-2006 20:07:53
[quote01bb76c61e="srichter"]He last logged into A4F last night; for all we know it's just a coincidence that he hasn't been on yet and they all got cancelled some how.[/quote01bb76c61e]
Actually, I bought some from him yesterday morning and they stopped working yesterday night. He told me he'd send new ones this morning (I believed him since this has happened before and he always sends new ones), but I haven't heard from him since.
shamash
25-01-2006 20:08:14
^^^
That's not good.
JKirk
25-01-2006 20:09:50
Wow, this is really weird. DLF has been selling them all over the place on A4F, as many of you already know. I apologize if I'm posting information that is already known on FiPG but on A4F, he made a topic about a user named ViggyG charging back all his GCs. DLF then called Half and somehow got the situation resolved. Maybe since he called Half to get the situation with Viggy straightened out, they also emptied out all the active GC's that DLF had? It seems like DLF either hasn't realized all this happening, or he doesn't want to come back to A4F and FiPG and deal with all his unhappy "customers".
Crynos
25-01-2006 20:10:44
[quote7cb42b11cb="bballp6699"][quote7cb42b11cb="Crynos"][quote7cb42b11cb="Th3Great1"]did you ask for finch? or check pm[/quote7cb42b11cb]Yeah, i asked for finch, she told me i had the wrong number. It couldve been his mom who didnt know what the hell i was talking about when i said finch[/quote7cb42b11cb]
You asked for the name of a fucking bird?[/quote7cb42b11cb]I was hoping he would pick up...i dont know how to pronounce his name either, its wierd.
Koleran
25-01-2006 20:11:15
[quotee0b017030a="JKirk"]Wow, this is really weird. DLF has been selling them all over the place on A4F, as many of you already know. I apologize if I'm posting information that is already known on FiPG but on A4F, he made a topic about a user named ViggyG charging back all his GCs. DLF then called Half and somehow got the situation resolved. Maybe since he called Half to get the situation with Viggy straightened out, they also emptied out all the active GC's that DLF had? It seems like DLF either hasn't realized all this happening, or he doesn't want to come back to A4F and FiPG and deal with all his unhappy "customers".[/quotee0b017030a]
thanks for posting Jkirk...I think this makes the situation a lot more clear
sort of like a credit card, if the company suspects something has happened and has contacted the owner, they will make the credit card unusable IMMEDIATELY
bballp6699
25-01-2006 20:11:25
[quote62d2263868="JKirk"]Wow, this is really weird. DLF has been selling them all over the place on A4F, as many of you already know. I apologize if I'm posting information that is already known on FiPG but on A4F, he made a topic about a user named ViggyG charging back all his GCs. DLF then called Half and somehow got the situation resolved. Maybe since he called Half to get the situation with Viggy straightened out, they also emptied out all the active GC's that DLF had? It seems like DLF either hasn't realized all this happening, or he doesn't want to come back to A4F and FiPG and deal with all his unhappy "customers".[/quote62d2263868]
So he'd rather have crazy people calling his house at all hours of the night? Because that's what's going to happen.
It still sounds so damn fishy...
If I knew about sending shit to his aunt's house, I don't know if I would have bought these.
shamash
25-01-2006 20:11:35
he didnt say he called half.com he said he spent them
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 20:11:40
[quote5e52ead58e="JKirk"]Wow, this is really weird. DLF has been selling them all over the place on A4F, as many of you already know. I apologize if I'm posting information that is already known on FiPG but on A4F, he made a topic about a user named ViggyG charging back all his GCs. DLF then called Half and somehow got the situation resolved. Maybe since he called Half to get the situation with Viggy straightened out, they also emptied out all the active GC's that DLF had? It seems like DLF either hasn't realized all this happening, or he doesn't want to come back to A4F and FiPG and deal with all his unhappy "customers".[/quote5e52ead58e]
i hope thats true and it all gets sorted out and i can play my 360 in harmony..
Crynos
25-01-2006 20:12:39
[quote2f3a011d03="shamash"]he didnt say he called half.com he said he spent them[/quote2f3a011d03]Yeah, thats all i saw to
Koleran
25-01-2006 20:13:00
couldn't he easily resolve this situation by purchasing them again from his bro??
fgr_admin
25-01-2006 20:14:32
Just to point out he might not be scamming, he might have just got caught stealing them.
He has repeatedly said his cousin works for ebay.
So what if
His cousin was scamming a hundred a month or so. Since Finch used to only pay with them sporaticly.
Then his cousin steals a few $k so they can have some xmas money. If I remember right thats when he started selling bulk.
Now last night Ebay catches on, fires his cousin and revokes all the GC he had been making.
So now Finch is screwed. He spent all the monies yall sent him. He can't afford to pay anyone back. So he is hiding and hoping for the best.
That at least would explain why he didn't just use them himself. Since ebay would see Finch (cousin) selling $20k worth of GC and Finch using them.
Crynos
25-01-2006 20:14:33
[quotedaf6ad9443="Koleran"]couldn't he easily resolve this situation by purchasing them again from his bro??[/quotedaf6ad9443]If hes legit then yes, however, right now hes not looking to legit imo.
Berky34
25-01-2006 20:14:41
[quote817a467565="Koleran"]couldn't he easily resolve this situation by purchasing them again from his bro??[/quote817a467565]
IF he got them from his bro.... legally...
shamash
25-01-2006 20:14:55
or cousin, or aunt, or whoever the hell it was.
maybe he just wants to runnnn
shamash
25-01-2006 20:15:58
maybe they were deactivated since he only got them cheap if he didn't se them, then he used 500 of them after he ot scammed, not thinking abot it, and they all got ruined
bballp6699
25-01-2006 20:18:10
[quotee819c169cf="fgr_admin"]Just to point out he might not be scamming, he might have just got caught stealing them.
He has repeatedly said his cousin works for ebay.
So what if
His cousin was scamming a hundred a month or so. Since Finch used to only pay with them sporaticly.
Then his cousin steals a few $k so they can have some xmas money. If I remember right thats when he started selling bulk.
Now last night Ebay catches on, fires his cousin and revokes all the GC he had been making.
So now Finch is screwed. He spent all the monies yall sent him. He can't afford to pay anyone back. So he is hiding and hoping for the best.
That at least would explain why he didn't just use them himself. Since ebay would see Finch (cousin) selling $20k worth of GC and Finch using them.[/quotee819c169cf]
He would still be scamming. He could easily pay us back with all the money we sent him. There's no way he spent it all. Even so, he could sell the shit he bought.
Peinecone
25-01-2006 20:20:43
[quote4e8c918a67="fgr_admin"]Just to point out he might not be scamming, he might have just got caught stealing them.
He has repeatedly said his cousin works for ebay.
So what if
His cousin was scamming a hundred a month or so. Since Finch used to only pay with them sporaticly.
Then his cousin steals a few $k so they can have some xmas money. If I remember right thats when he started selling bulk.
Now last night Ebay catches on, fires his cousin and revokes all the GC he had been making.
So now Finch is screwed. He spent all the monies yall sent him. He can't afford to pay anyone back. So he is hiding and hoping for the best.
That at least would explain why he didn't just use them himself. Since ebay would see Finch (cousin) selling $20k worth of GC and Finch using them.[/quote4e8c918a67]
That is also what i think happened. Seems the most plauasible.
[quotebf7034635d="fgr_admin"]Just to point out he might not be scamming, he might have just got caught stealing them.
He has repeatedly said his cousin works for ebay.
So what if
His cousin was scamming a hundred a month or so. Since Finch used to only pay with them sporaticly.
Then his cousin steals a few $k so they can have some xmas money. If I remember right thats when he started selling bulk.
Now last night Ebay catches on, fires his cousin and revokes all the GC he had been making.
So now Finch is screwed. He spent all the monies yall sent him. He can't afford to pay anyone back. So he is hiding and hoping for the best.
That at least would explain why he didn't just use them himself. Since ebay would see Finch (cousin) selling $20k worth of GC and Finch using them.[/quotebf7034635d]
Yes and maybe my ipod and psp will show up from gusto network tommorrow
agroman
25-01-2006 20:22:28
[quote7da6dc52b5="Koleran"]Finch is a band
from Temecula, CA
I know since I'm around here )[/quote7da6dc52b5]
do you know Counterfit? they're from around San Diego and toured with Finch a few years ago. great band.
![]("7da6dc52b5)
http//www.counterfit.net/images/tour03/all6.jpg[" alt=""/img7da6dc52b5]
idrinklisterine
25-01-2006 20:23:49
Here's something else I found
Today, another user was selling half.com GCs and claimed he got them from a source he couldn't name. When I bought them, he gave me the same PayPal email that dudelovesFinch1035 once gave me.
Here's his profile
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7208
I'm not sure what anyone can do with this info besides avoid nesquik, but I just thought I should put it out there.
agroman
25-01-2006 20:26:11
[quote292198cdb4="idrinklisterine"]Here's something else I found
Today, another user was selling half.com GCs and claimed he got them from a source he couldn't name. When I bought them, he gave me the same PayPal email that dudelovesFinch1035 once gave me.
Here's his profile
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7208
I'm not sure what anyone can do with this info besides avoid nesquik, but I just thought I should put it out there.[/quote292198cdb4]
yeah, and the following is from this thread http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=30960
[quote292198cdb4="nesquik"]I am selling $300 half.com giftcertificate that i got from dudelovesfinch. each giftcertificates are $100
I'll take paypal. I'm selling $300 for $200. you can IM me on aim or pm me. my screen name is Nesquik
I am legit, I'm from anything4free[/quote292198cdb4]
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 20:27:33
[quotecdaf83db80="idrinklisterine"]Here's something else I found
Today, another user was selling half.com GCs and claimed he got them from a source he couldn't name. When I bought them, he gave me the same PayPal email that dudelovesFinch1035 once gave me.
Here's his profile
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7208
I'm not sure what anyone can do with this info besides avoid nesquik, but I just thought I should put it out there.[/quotecdaf83db80]
i knew this......
Peinecone
25-01-2006 20:27:51
[quote8a6a8414ba="idrinklisterine"]Here's something else I found
Today, another user was selling half.com GCs and claimed he got them from a source he couldn't name. When I bought them, he gave me the same PayPal email that dudelovesFinch1035 once gave me.
Here's his profile
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7208
I'm not sure what anyone can do with this info besides avoid nesquik, but I just thought I should put it out there.[/quote8a6a8414ba]
Do they still work?
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 20:27:59
y didnt you say anything?
[quoteb3db10b368="Blink182=Gone"][quoteb3db10b368="idrinklisterine"]Here's something else I found
Today, another user was selling half.com GCs and claimed he got them from a source he couldn't name. When I bought them, he gave me the same PayPal email that dudelovesFinch1035 once gave me.
Here's his profile
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=7208
I'm not sure what anyone can do with this info besides avoid nesquik, but I just thought I should put it out there.[/quoteb3db10b368]
i knew this......[/quoteb3db10b368]
shamash
25-01-2006 20:30:17
WOW. ROFL. He's already made a new name? That's pretty sick.
fgr_admin
25-01-2006 20:30:48
[quotee5c4d7e886="shamash"]WOW. ROFL. He's already made a new name? That's pretty sick.[/quotee5c4d7e886]
Maybe its his cousin
shamash
25-01-2006 20:31:33
lol
theysayjump
25-01-2006 20:32:49
nesquick is posting from San Jose. DLF is posting from Miami.
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 20:33:09
proxy?
wozzybear
25-01-2006 20:33:52
I'm sorry for everyone here. On the bright side, the guy calling and asking for "finch" really made my day. I can just hear it right now "'Finch.' 'FINCH.' F-I-N-C-H. No I don't know his first name. Wait, it might be 'dude', does that ring a bell? Yes 'DUDE'. Hello?"
shamash
25-01-2006 20:34:28
I guess this is why Admin didn't want a sale/trade forum.
fgr_admin
25-01-2006 20:37:37
[quote54194eec04="theysayjump"]nesquick is posting from San Jose. DLF is posting from Miami.[/quote54194eec04]
thats why i suggested his cousin. Doesnt ebay have a headquarters in San Jose. In fact I think the main one is in San Jose.
idrinklisterine
25-01-2006 20:39:59
[quote2d83fd0682="fgr_admin"][quote2d83fd0682="theysayjump"]nesquick is posting from San Jose. DLF is posting from Miami.[/quote2d83fd0682]
thats why i suggested his cousin. Doesnt ebay have a headquarters in San Jose. In fact I think the main one is in San Jose.[/quote2d83fd0682]
Yeah, thats where eBay was started.
Crynos
25-01-2006 20:40:28
Just remembered, the name on the gmail account he used to send me the certs was Jake Barney. That sounds completely fake (especially considering hes spanish) but just thought id throw it out there.
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 20:41:07
I have gianfranco yiauri.....in my pp records
tylerc
25-01-2006 20:43:06
This is not looking good...but I thought he didn't have PayPal?
Maybe he didn't want PayPal because we could do chargebacks, but you can't charge back Amazon can you?
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 20:43:40
no his pp account is frozen...
Crynos
25-01-2006 20:44:11
[quotec66c3b3ecc="tylerc"]This is not looking good...but I thought he didn't have PayPal?
Maybe he didn't want PayPal because we could do chargebacks, but you can't charge back Amazon can you?[/quotec66c3b3ecc]You can charge back stormpay though, as he found out.
Gigante
25-01-2006 20:45:01
Probably a good reason he didn't take paypal. You can't track GC to him. Obviously the GC's were stolen and everybody knew it. Why else would he sell them instead of using them himself? eBay isn't dumb, they don't give away GC's for less then 50%, lol.
JKirk
25-01-2006 20:45:14
For some reason, I have a feeling this has to do with the fast one ViggyG pulled on him the other day. I think Half acted as a credit card company does and deactivated all the GC's as soon as they received word that VinnyG stole the GC's from DLF. I PM'd DLF on A4F along with a message tracker, so we will see if he will ignore it or explain the situation. Either way, I'll relay the information I receive over here.
Crynos
25-01-2006 20:46:00
[quote79af2099d3="Gigante"]Probably a good reason he didn't take paypal. You can't track GC to him. Obviously the GC's were stolen and everybody knew it. Why else would he sell them instead of using them himself? eBay isn't dumb, they don't give away GC's for less then 50%, lol.[/quote79af2099d3]I dont understand how it took them so long to catch him (if thats the case)
Daggoth
25-01-2006 20:46:14
I don't support off-site linking, but this is a pretty drastic time. Check http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42407&st=0&gopid=296274&#entry296274
slease
25-01-2006 20:49:17
[quote6e2bebb0f1="aguy"]
Yes and maybe my iPod and psp will show up from gusto network tommorrow[/quote6e2bebb0f1]
And my ipod and sonos system... that was just what I was thinking when I read this post. The list of people getting fucked over on this forum grows even larger.
johnjimjones
25-01-2006 20:50:04
Shit this is bad. When you see a thread has a post per minute in its first three hours, especially.
Daggoth
25-01-2006 20:50:22
Should we move this to the Scammer's Thread?
johnjimjones
25-01-2006 20:51:31
Hmm, I'd be nice to get a DLF response. Maybe...
theysayjump
25-01-2006 20:51:43
I'm going to move it but leave a shadow of it here too. Maybe more people will see it in the scammers forum.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 20:52:01
No, I for one, never look at the scammers thread.
dudeextrem2000
25-01-2006 20:53:07
ok i just used 200 from nesquick and they worked, is there any way i can get the orders rejected? they all went through to my email... can Half.com cancel the gift cards an din turn cancel my orders? also my dads credit card is attached thisis not good...
damac
25-01-2006 20:53:53
only thing i have in my spreadsheet is a trade for paypal many months ago for my moms flatscreens4free ref with email= email=finchrocksl33t@yahoo.comfinchrocksl33t@yahoo.com email=finchrocksl33t@yahoo.comfinchrocksl33t@yahoo.com/email
Crynos
25-01-2006 20:54:18
[quote5aec56fe15="dudeextrem2000"]ok i just used 200 from nesquick and they worked, is there any way i can get the orders rejected? they all went through to my email... can Half.com cancel the gift cards an din turn cancel my orders? also my dads credit card is attached thisis not good...[/quote5aec56fe15]I think youre safe, its wierd that the certs nesquik is selling are working though.
thepalmers03
25-01-2006 20:54:42
I guess it is true what they say, if it seems too good to be true, it probably is.
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 20:56:48
fuck mannn im so mad y didnt i see this thread earlier i could have cancelled my order...
xztiger
25-01-2006 20:57:00
well maybe hes just been busy?!? i hope
Crynos
25-01-2006 20:59:36
Im just praying amazon freezes that card and refunds my money
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 21:00:11
Nesquik is browsing the forum. Hey, do you have any info for us?
EDIT Damn he disappeared.
LucaBella
25-01-2006 21:02:24
well my last 600 in gift certs are now dead too.. Fucking hell, if I hadn't bought that damned PSP I wouldda had enough to spend the rest on a last premium Xbox, and wouldn't have lost anything.. fuck shit piss.
you can't trust anyone... goddamn.
and everyone's quoting this magic 10,000 amount. He had three times that amount easily. liIli gave him 2400 in gift certs alone!!!
You know what? He was always pressuring me to put up a brag bag, and I was thinking "why? if you claim you're out of gift cards, why do you want more people to see the deal, and want to buy from you?" but I stupidly figured he was just lying about how many he had left, and he wanted to keep selling. I really didn't think he was out and out scamming!
ilanbg
25-01-2006 21:04:06
I must say I love conspiracy theories.
Love 'em.
thepalmers03
25-01-2006 21:04:23
This totally sucks, I have like $3000 in empty gift certs now. My friends are going to kill me. I sold some to them.
nesquik
25-01-2006 21:04:25
i am not scamming anyone and im not related nor from san jose. im from sacramento, california, which is like 2-3 hrs away from san jose. mines are working cos i got them legit. however, i did buy some from dudelovesfinch, and they were working last time i checkd so i sold them. i would use the half.com gcs, but i already bought what i wanted already, 2 xbox 360s, ps2 games, ps2, memory cards, cds. after those, i stopped buying and realized that i dont even play my xbox 360s anymore and sold them. my ps2 is sitting right there in the dust. idrinklisterine filed a dispute on me because dudelovesfinch used my paypal emiail to collect money. in return, dudelovesfinch wanted me to buy him amazon.com gcs, which i did. i know the fact that this seems weird that you guys think im him, but im not. AND IF YOU GUYS DIDNT NOTICE, I WAS TRYING TO SELL GIFTCERTIFICATES HIGHER THAN DUDELOVESFINCH, BUT YOU GUYS BE SAYING THAT DUDELOVESFINCH SELLS THEM CHEAPER AND YOU GUYS WOULD RATHER BUY FROM HIM.
thats my 2cent
Crynos
25-01-2006 21:05:51
So wait, you were laundering DLF's money?
Eric P
25-01-2006 21:06:29
All I can say is I saw this comming. Which is why I didn't jump on the bandwagon for his gc's
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 21:08:43
[quote3e7bea79da="nesquik"]i am not scamming anyone and im not related nor from san jose. im from sacramento, california, which is like 2-3 hrs away from san jose. mines are working cos i got them legit. however, i did buy some from dudelovesfinch, and they were working last time i checkd so i sold them. i would use the half.com gcs, but i already bought what i wanted already, 2 xbox 360s, ps2 games, ps2, memory cards, cds. after those, i stopped buying and realized that i dont even play my xbox 360s anymore and sold them. my ps2 is sitting right there in the dust. idrinklisterine filed a dispute on me because dudelovesfinch used my paypal emiail to collect money. in return, dudelovesfinch wanted me to buy him amazon.com gcs, which i did. i know the fact that this seems weird that you guys think im him, but im not. AND IF YOU GUYS DIDNT NOTICE, I WAS TRYING TO SELL GIFTCERTIFICATES HIGHER THAN DUDELOVESFINCH, BUT YOU GUYS BE SAYING THAT DUDELOVESFINCH SELLS THEM CHEAPER AND YOU GUYS WOULD RATHER BUY FROM HIM.
thats my 2cent[/quote3e7bea79da]
So how did you get yours legit, at a price where you could sell them at half price?
LucaBella
25-01-2006 21:09:28
I'm looking at the guy's post count, I was looking at his trade record, and I just thought if anyone was going to stay around, it'd be Finch. I thought about the likelihood of Ebay selling half.com gift cers for pennies, and I thought it was lame unless you buy an enormous amount, i figured he must have bought like 100K for 10 grand, and that's why he was hustling so hard to make the money back.
I just didn't think he was doing anything wrong.
dudeextrem2000
25-01-2006 21:09:54
what was DLF's AIM address?
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 21:11:48
hes not anywai..i doubt it that his aim really helps
tylerc
25-01-2006 21:12:19
Dudefinch1035
dudeextrem2000
25-01-2006 21:13:45
http//www.ethereal.com/docs/dfref/a/aim_lookup.html
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 21:14:45
what is it?
bballp6699
25-01-2006 21:15:56
Man, change your avatar, this is a serious conversation and that makes me giggle like a school girl.
nesquik
25-01-2006 21:16:31
i got them from anotehr guy on a different site, who is not dudelovesfinch. im not gonna bring the site up cos you guys will bring up controversy on that site also. like i said, i didnt want to sell my giftcertificates at a low price, but no one will buy from me, so i had no choice but to lower price down.
it says that im posting from san jose, thats because im on dial up. my post count is low and i have 1 tr cos im new to this site, but that dont me that im a scammer. if i was one, i wouldve took off already.
agroman
25-01-2006 21:17:19
[quotec91bf33bbc="dudeextrem2000"]http//www.ethereal.com/docs/dfref/a/aim_lookup.html[/quotec91bf33bbc]
that's just an AIM message type for looking up a user by their email address, not to get their email from their screenname. not sure if it's part of the OSCAR or TOC protocol, but it will do you no good either way.
Blink182=Gone
25-01-2006 21:17:44
I just used up $300 worth of certificates from nesquick, and I decided not to order more to get my xbox 360, just because I have a strange feeling about all this (duhh).
But yes, I used $200 of certs about an hour and a half ago, and just $100 right now.
strange....
dudeextrem2000
25-01-2006 21:18:18
[quotec2a5832195="bballp6699"]Man, change your avatar, this is a serious conversation and that makes me giggle like a school girl.[/quotec2a5832195]
who me?
Daggoth
25-01-2006 21:24:04
Can we compile a list of what DLF owe's everyone?
damac
25-01-2006 21:24:15
i need to sleep, i will wakeup in the am and it will all have been a dream )
just wondering, wtf is the recourse for those that bought amazon gc's if this is gonna go down?
i sent mine to theysayjump and i guess he forwarded them.
amazon isn't going to give a crap is it?
how do i even attempt a chargeback, won't the gc's just show he redeemed them and they were a gift from theysayjump?
thepalmers03
25-01-2006 21:25:26
Has anyone found out if we can do something about the amazon gift certs. Can we get anything back or are we screwed?
Can we claim that the code was stolen or something?
damac
25-01-2006 21:25:36
[quotececfebbfa0="Daggoth"]Can we compile a list of what DLF owe's everyone?[/quotececfebbfa0]
yeah really , this is looking worse and worse (
im owed 2000 in half.com gc's, none were even delivered to me.
nesquik
25-01-2006 21:28:32
[quoteb1da767cc5="damac"][quoteb1da767cc5="Daggoth"]Can we compile a list of what DLF owe's everyone?[/quoteb1da767cc5]
yeah really , this is looking worse and worse (
im owed 2000 in half.com gc's, none were even delivered to me.[/quoteb1da767cc5]
i bought $1000 from dudelovesfinch and i sold them, but people say they were invalid, so im out $1000 (
bballp6699
25-01-2006 21:29:01
So, I guess it's safe to say that optimism isn't really in the air anymore... (
I had just gotten home from Barnes and Nobles and had some books in mind I wanted to order... (
I'm owed $1200 in certs.
thepalmers03
25-01-2006 21:29:37
If we are going to post of how bad he got us all
He got me for $3300 (I hate my life)
Daggoth
25-01-2006 21:29:57
[quote8eef815ddc="nesquik"][quote8eef815ddc="damac"][quote8eef815ddc="Daggoth"]Can we compile a list of what DLF owe's everyone?[/quote8eef815ddc]
yeah really , this is looking worse and worse (
im owed 2000 in half.com gc's, none were even delivered to me.[/quote8eef815ddc]
i bought $1000 from dudelovesfinch and i sold them, but people say they were invalid, so im out $1000 ([/quote8eef815ddc]
Didn't you say you bought them from an unknown member from a different site?
bballp6699
25-01-2006 21:31:22
He said be bought some from another site, some from DLF.
nesquik
25-01-2006 21:31:46
i bought 1k from him and the rest is from another member at a diff site
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 21:33:46
im owerd $1200...
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 21:34:13
If you got him an Amazon GC, call them up now. If we all do so, they'll realize something's up and it'll help our case.
Nesquik, maybe you can PM a mod about this site so they can check it out without it getting public here.
damac
25-01-2006 21:35:25
what is the email he had the amazon gc's delivered to?
nesquik
25-01-2006 21:35:35
whose a mod here, or is the mod the color black?
bigchan2k
25-01-2006 21:35:45
I'm owed $1213.00 (12 unusued and 1 partially used) in Half GCs.
xztiger
25-01-2006 21:36:10
man this sucks i was going to trade with him $500 for $1000 not fair, im so glad i didnt get screwed -)
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 21:36:27
[quoteea72c15807="hehehhehe"]If you got him an Amazon GC, call them up now. If we all do so, they'll realize something's up and it'll help our case.
Nesquik, maybe you can PM a mod about this site so they can check it out without it getting public here.[/quoteea72c15807]
i made the email= email=dudelovesfinch135@gmail.comdudelovesfinch135@gmail.com email=dudelovesfinch135@gmail.comdudelovesfinch135@gmail.com/email so ima say that i accidnetly wrote the wrong email..
thepalmers03
25-01-2006 21:38:33
This is where I sent the gift certs "Jake Barney" <dudelovesfinch1035@gmail.com
LucaBella
25-01-2006 21:39:22
[quote7cf2bcdd7d="thepalmers03"]If we are going to post of how bad he got us all
He got me for $3300 (I hate my life)[/quote7cf2bcdd7d]
goddamn. we need to take up a collection for you.
I got burned for 600 Gift certs.. but really.. I paid like 2400 and I got more than 4K in resale value so.. I guess I should shut up..
but I'm shocked..
Sorry dude.. sorry.
kdollar
25-01-2006 21:39:59
this thread is so surreal, i made a post earlier in the day about how he pulled the biggest scam of all time, only to be kidding of course and him comin back to handle the problem. i just read 6 pages of shit, and he hasnt posted, i feel for all the people who lost all their money, this is so different than getting scammed out of a green. i hope yall find the bastard and make him pay dearly.
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 21:40:55
wouldnt it be funni if this is was one huge misunderstanding
god...im going into denial
Daggoth
25-01-2006 21:41:30
[quote26fef0f421="kdollar"]this thread is so surreal, i made a post earlier in the day about how he pulled the biggest scam of all time, only to be kidding of course and him comin back to handle the problem. i just read 6 pages of shit, and he hasnt posted, i feel for all the people who lost all their money, this is so different than getting scammed out of a green. i hope yall find the bastard and make him pay dearly.[/quote26fef0f421]
Ya seriously this is like throwing more than 40 greens out the window. You should contact your local police.
LucaBella
25-01-2006 21:41:31
Amazon.com 800-201-7575
bballp6699
25-01-2006 21:42:36
All I know is his aunt's going to fuck him up when she hears my sweet ass waking her up every morning at 3am. I'll give him a week to respond.
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 21:44:25
lmaooo
LucaBella
25-01-2006 21:44:42
Whomever mailed the computer to an address in florida... that's going to be huge, I think. if thats not his house, its someone who knows him, and unless this gets settled soon, its the first place for the police to go.
nesquik
25-01-2006 21:45:19
[quotea681e04a5f="bballp6699"]All I know is his aunt's going to fuck him up when she hears my sweet ass waking her up every morning at 3am. I'll give him a week to respond.[/quotea681e04a5f]
howd you get his number and howd you know if he lives with his aunt or so. explain plz, i wnat his number
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 21:46:12
[quote68fff00d57="nesquik"]whose a mod here, or is the mod the color black?[/quote68fff00d57]
theysayjump is a mod.
shamash
25-01-2006 21:46:21
lawl
bballp6699
25-01-2006 21:47:12
[quote0a7bdb0329="nesquik"][quote0a7bdb0329="bballp6699"]All I know is his aunt's going to fuck him up when she hears my sweet ass waking her up every morning at 3am. I'll give him a week to respond.[/quote0a7bdb0329]
howd you get his number and howd you know if he lives with his aunt or so. explain plz, i wnat his number[/quote0a7bdb0329]
Peinecone posted her name, and I looked it up on switchboard. There are three names, and I don't mind asking around.
sparrowsingreek
25-01-2006 21:48:46
He must be off vacationing with Gatita...
Th3Great1
25-01-2006 21:49:40
and i got scammed by both of them....
LucaBella
25-01-2006 21:51:25
I like how people still are reluctant to call Gatita (aka bonesmoker) a stone cold scammer...
I still can't believe this shit. Who else got ripped off. we need figures. Keep posting what you lost.
nesquik
25-01-2006 21:52:17
im still waiting for idrinklisterine to atleast give me the money back that he used to buy gcs from me...
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 21:56:31
[quote6356275ad6="nesquik"]im still waiting for idrinklisterine to atleast give me the money back that he used to buy gcs from me...[/quote6356275ad6]
I don't think you're out of the woods yet anyway...
bballp6699
25-01-2006 21:56:32
LucaBella It's a nice thought, but amazon isn't giving us back dick...
I think best case scenerio here is that dlf gets caught here, but I think you can kiss that money goodbye.
JordanE
25-01-2006 21:57:04
Damne I feel bad for everyone in this thread and to think I was going to buy some from him. It sounds like maybe these certs wern't 100% legal and half.com put all of theme on hold.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 21:57:12
[quote2cae7b5af1="hehehhehe"][quote2cae7b5af1="nesquik"]im still waiting for idrinklisterine to atleast give me the money back that he used to buy gcs from me...[/quote2cae7b5af1]
I don't think you're out of the woods yet anyway...[/quote2cae7b5af1]
He is according to me. He's a little aZn boi!
nesquik
25-01-2006 21:59:26
im not little, im 16 ) and yes im azn
idrinklisterine
25-01-2006 22:01:04
[quotea91f2683ad="nesquik"]im still waiting for idrinklisterine to atleast give me the money back that he used to buy gcs from me...[/quotea91f2683ad]
Why would I give the money back to you? You admitted to laundering money for DLF, and when I told you to simply not send the GCs to him, you told me
[quotea91f2683ad]i already did and he ran off with the amazon giftcertifcates. but i aint complaining, cos it came out of the money that you guys sent to me when you guys bought from him using my paypal. [/quotea91f2683ad]
This sounds like you still have some of our money. DLF scammed me out of $2,000 (in cash, not GCs), and if you helped him, I'm not taking the charge off dispute. Also, what happened to "i aint complaining"?
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 22:02:20
If he's smart, he'll give us our money back (not the 2x amount in gift certs) so he won't have the law after him. For the amount he's taken, he could get in a lot of trouble. We know where his "aunt" is, and we can get her number from that, even if we have to pay a bit for it.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 22:03:18
How did the money go from your paypal to him?
Does anyone know his storm pay information?
nesquik
25-01-2006 22:04:00
umm..hello? i just sold you some gcs like 3 hrs ago and you bought it. so its out of your money to me, not to DLF
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 22:04:19
[quoted1fe0bc15a="bballp6699"][quoted1fe0bc15a="hehehhehe"][quoted1fe0bc15a="nesquik"]im still waiting for idrinklisterine to atleast give me the money back that he used to buy gcs from me...[/quoted1fe0bc15a]
I don't think you're out of the woods yet anyway...[/quoted1fe0bc15a]
He is according to me.[/quoted1fe0bc15a]
How so?
bballp6699
25-01-2006 22:04:44
[quote76bee9dd26="hehehhehe"]If he's smart, he'll give us our money back (not the 2x amount in gift certs) so he won't have the law after him. For the amount he's taken, he could get in a lot of trouble. We know where his "aunt" is, and we can get her number from that, even if we have to pay a bit for it.[/quote76bee9dd26]
Yeah, I only had $1200 left, so I want $600 to cover what I spent. I don't need $1200 in certs.
[quote76bee9dd26="hehehhehe"][quote76bee9dd26="bballp6699"][quote76bee9dd26="hehehhehe"][quote76bee9dd26="nesquik"]im still waiting for idrinklisterine to atleast give me the money back that he used to buy gcs from me...[/quote76bee9dd26]
I don't think you're out of the woods yet anyway...[/quote76bee9dd26]
He is according to me.[/quote76bee9dd26]
How so?[/quote76bee9dd26]
He sent me an im asking about dlf's phone number. In his profile there's a link to his myspace where it shows a 16 year old asian kid. I mean, that could be fake too, but this just seems way to CSI for dlf. I talked to him on aim, he wasn't the brightest dude alive.
nesquik
25-01-2006 22:07:02
[quoteaef7f04005="bballp6699"]How did the money go from your paypal to him?
Does anyone know his storm pay information?[/quoteaef7f04005]
he IMed me and asked me if i can help him out since i delt with him before and he was legit to me. so he told me he's going to sell soem gcs and needs to use a paypal to store money. in return, he wnated me to buy amazon.com giftcertficates for him and i get to keep the $ in the paypal. but this was before i found out that he wasnt legit
nesquik
25-01-2006 22:08:42
[quotef6ef303ad6="bballp6699"][quotef6ef303ad6="hehehhehe"]If he's smart, he'll give us our money back (not the 2x amount in gift certs) so he won't have the law after him. For the amount he's taken, he could get in a lot of trouble. We know where his "aunt" is, and we can get her number from that, even if we have to pay a bit for it.[/quotef6ef303ad6]
Yeah, I only had $1200 left, so I want $600 to cover what I spent. I don't need $1200 in certs.
[quotef6ef303ad6="hehehhehe"][quotef6ef303ad6="bballp6699"][quotef6ef303ad6="hehehhehe"][quotef6ef303ad6="nesquik"]im still waiting for idrinklisterine to atleast give me the money back that he used to buy gcs from me...[/quotef6ef303ad6]
I don't think you're out of the woods yet anyway...[/quotef6ef303ad6]
He is according to me.[/quotef6ef303ad6]
How so?[/quotef6ef303ad6]
He sent me an im asking about dlf's phone number. In his profile there's a link to his myspace where it shows a 16 year old asian kid. I mean, that could be fake too, but this just seems way to CSI for dlf. I talked to him on aim, he wasn't the brightest dude alive.[/quotef6ef303ad6]
quit calling me a kid, call me a teen plz ?
bballp6699
25-01-2006 22:09:27
...but when did you make your first transaction? Your first post is about selling them. Why would he trust a noob with his money over well known members?
LucaBella
25-01-2006 22:11:58
lemme help you out. Nesquik = Finch
kdollar
25-01-2006 22:12:01
b/c he was going to pull this stunt.
nesquik
25-01-2006 22:12:13
i did some sites for him on anything4free
Koleran
25-01-2006 22:13:05
[quotece0fef338c="LucaBella"]lemme help you out. Nequik = Finch[/quotece0fef338c]
what's your evidence?
bballp6699
25-01-2006 22:13:10
What's your name on anything4free?
thepalmers03
25-01-2006 22:13:25
Hey,
Just you you all know I called Amazon.com and their fraud staff are going to look into his acount. When I was talking to the guy he traced my order and when he saw how much money dudelovesfinch had in his account he gasped. Finch has $11,000 of our money in his amazon account. We need to find a way to convince amazon to return all that money back to us. If we all call them they are bound to see that there is something up with this guy. Oh, and another thing, his name was something really weird. I didn't understand what the amazon guy was telling me. Good luck everyone. I hope we get this guy!!!
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 22:13:57
Nesquick, did you pm a mod with that "other site"?
nesquik
25-01-2006 22:14:56
[quoteff6045bab5="LucaBella"]lemme help you out. Nesquik = Finch[/quoteff6045bab5]
umm..no? how can i be finch, if finch is in florida and im in california?
GiftOrb
25-01-2006 22:15:45
Story time. I probably found out about the broken gift cards before this post was up.
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=31351
I tried to warn people about this, just to be on the safe side... but it was locked and I didn't want to get a temp ban for posting it elsewhere.
So last night, he got on AIM, sent me $400 to replace the $400 that I found was broken. I used $100, and was planning to use the other $300 today. Today I find out that they are all inactive again. In addition to this, the ones I sold are inactive and customers are getting pissed off at me.
My thought on this is that he DID run with our money. Everything points to that. I saw him on AIM today, and right when I messeged him, he logged off.
Koleran
25-01-2006 22:15:46
[quote698cdfc48f="nesquik"][quote698cdfc48f="LucaBella"]lemme help you out. Nesquik = Finch[/quote698cdfc48f]
umm..no? how can i be finch, if finch is in florida and im in california?[/quote698cdfc48f]
we don't know finch is in florida..there's no CERTAIN proof
bballp6699
25-01-2006 22:15:57
[quoteb869fc9a15="thepalmers03"]Hey,
Just you you all know I called Amazon.com and their fraud staff are going to look into his acount. When I was talking to the guy he traced my order and when he saw how much money dudelovesfinch had in his account he gasped. Finch has $11,000 of our money in his amazon account. We need to find a way to convince amazon to return all that money back to us. If we all call them they are bound to see that there is something up with this guy. Oh, and another thing, his name was something really weird. I didn't understand what the amazon guy was telling me. Good luck everyone. I hope we get this guy!!![/quoteb869fc9a15]
Gianfranco Yiauri?
LucaBella
25-01-2006 22:16:09
[quotec72fff893c="nesquik"][quotec72fff893c="LucaBella"]lemme help you out. Nesquik = Finch[/quotec72fff893c]
umm..no? how can i be finch, if finch is in florida and im in california?[/quotec72fff893c]
Idon't trust you. I think you're up to something... Something's going on, and it's got your greasy fingerprints all over it.
nesquik
25-01-2006 22:17:12
my name on anything4free is ricecake, and no, i did not scam that kid on kswiss, i told him how i got it and he still went with the deal.
yes, i pm the mod with the site
GiftOrb
25-01-2006 22:17:27
[quote5cc5ff3080="thepalmers03"]Hey,
Just you you all know I called Amazon.com and their fraud staff are going to look into his acount. When I was talking to the guy he traced my order and when he saw how much money dudelovesfinch had in his account he gasped. Finch has $11,000 of our money in his amazon account. We need to find a way to convince amazon to return all that money back to us. If we all call them they are bound to see that there is something up with this guy. Oh, and another thing, his name was something really weird. I didn't understand what the amazon guy was telling me. Good luck everyone. I hope we get this guy!!![/quote5cc5ff3080]
Did you tell them the truth, about you buying half.com gift certs with amazon.com gift certs? Or did you say your acct got hacked? or what? I want to keep the story consistent to help our case.
Koleran
25-01-2006 22:18:30
[quote32f5f29037="nesquik"]my name on anything4free is ricecake, and no, i did not scam that kid on kswiss, i told him how i got it and he still went with the deal.
yes, i pm the mod with the site[/quote32f5f29037]
if your name is ricecake, you're a scammer as well
http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42419
http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=41663
thepalmers03
25-01-2006 22:19:02
[quoteec3e247e6a="bballp6699"][quoteec3e247e6a="thepalmers03"]Hey,
Just you you all know I called Amazon.com and their fraud staff are going to look into his acount. When I was talking to the guy he traced my order and when he saw how much money dudelovesfinch had in his account he gasped. Finch has $11,000 of our money in his amazon account. We need to find a way to convince amazon to return all that money back to us. If we all call them they are bound to see that there is something up with this guy. Oh, and another thing, his name was something really weird. I didn't understand what the amazon guy was telling me. Good luck everyone. I hope we get this guy!!![/quoteec3e247e6a]
Gianfranco Yiauri?[/quoteec3e247e6a]
Yes,
Something like that. I have a test on Friday and I can't even concentrate. I want to get this guy somehow
LucaBella
25-01-2006 22:19:39
[quote3c0fa5892b="Koleran"][quote3c0fa5892b="nesquik"]my name on anything4free is ricecake, and no, i did not scam that kid on kswiss, i told him how i got it and he still went with the deal.
yes, i pm the mod with the site[/quote3c0fa5892b]
if your name is ricecake, you're a scammer as well
http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42419
http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=41663[/quote3c0fa5892b]
I knew it. I'm telling you this Nesquik guy is finch, or someone equally dirty.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 22:20:46
Although it looks incredibley fishy, I don't think dlf and ricecake/nesquik are related or anything...
I did some research and nesquik really is a 16 year old "teen", and apparently likes www.buttercube.net (link doesn't work).
Daggoth
25-01-2006 22:21:56
then why does he put his age as 22? Isnt that how old DLF was?
ilanbg
25-01-2006 22:22:10
This is some major shit. I'm loving it. )
Good luck to all of you.
sparrowsingreek
25-01-2006 22:22:30
Maybe Nesquik is Finch's brother...who knows....it smells so fishy.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 22:22:52
Nesquik is ricecake is Eeyorg...
The list apparently goes on and on, but so far the 16 year old story from Sac is consistant on every search I've done.
HumanMan
25-01-2006 22:23:04
Well if the mods would be so kind as to give us the ip addresses of finch and this nesquik guy we can easily trace them pass the proxies they are using and see who they really are. Oh, unless someone thinks this wouldn't be nice. BTW we can trace them down to a street address!!!
nesquik
25-01-2006 22:23:08
im not finch, wtf? how many time do i have to tell ya im not finch
bballp6699
25-01-2006 22:25:08
![]("86ec5ef718)
http//pc.xanga.com/c5/2d/c52d9ad9f839211ccdd6ad719ca674fa5996045.jpg[" alt=""/img86ec5ef718]
Pose for the mugshot.
sparrowsingreek
25-01-2006 22:31:20
Give his aunt's number to everyone who got scammed...she'll never sleep! Also may want to trace that address in FL. Man, this is some crazy shit.
LucaBella
25-01-2006 22:32:36
[quote10cdf7db89="Daggoth"]then why does he put his age as 22? Isnt that how old DLF was?[/quote10cdf7db89]
Finch also changed his birth data.. I remember asking him to give me a deal since we're both sagittarians, and now his birthdata is in march.. making him an aries...
so.. changing info.. hiding.. there's no chance in hell this is an accident.
nesquik
25-01-2006 22:33:16
atleast post a better pic of me rofl
ilanbg
25-01-2006 22:33:31
[quotef5b28e43ed]I have a test on Friday and I can't even concentrate. I want to get this guy somehow[/quotef5b28e43ed]
lol, I have a midterm in six hours, but this shit is exciting.
[quotef5b28e43ed]Well if the mods would be so kind as to give us the ip addresses of finch and this nesquik guy we can easily trace them pass the proxies they are using and see who they really are. Oh, unless someone thinks this wouldn't be nice. BTW we can trace them down to a street address!!![/quotef5b28e43ed]
How the hell does one do this? I'd like to know regardless of this situation; that's just helpful information.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 22:34:44
I've stumbled on some more shit. If you want to be kept updated with my information IM me or PM me. I'm not posting all of it because he might be viewing the forum.
HumanMan
25-01-2006 22:41:14
[quotea6a7023227="ilanbg"][quotea6a7023227]I have a test on Friday and I can't even concentrate. I want to get this guy somehow[/quotea6a7023227]
lol, I have a midterm in six hours, but this shit is exciting.
[quotea6a7023227]Well if the mods would be so kind as to give us the ip addresses of finch and this nesquik guy we can easily trace them pass the proxies they are using and see who they really are. Oh, unless someone thinks this wouldn't be nice. BTW we can trace them down to a street address!!![/quotea6a7023227]
How the hell does one do this? I'd like to know regardless of this situation; that's just helpful information.[/quotea6a7023227]
It is information that should not be known by all do to the fact that people would use it to annoy someone who scammed them out of 1 green. Honestly, this board is frequented by a lot of people under 18 (children) who do not understand what this kind of information actually used for.
GiftOrb
25-01-2006 22:44:37
[quote4dbeee595b]It is information that should not be known by all do to the fact that people would use it to annoy someone who scammed them out of 1 green. Honestly, this board is frequented by a lot of people under 18 (children) who do not understand what this kind of information actually used for.[/quote4dbeee595b]
First off, no one here is scammed out of a green. They were scammed out of REAL MONEY. Some people lost HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS to him. REAL CASH. IP tracking to find his address/name would be useful to start prosecuting him if this was all a scam. I'm sure he'll have enough trouble from both half.com and amazon.com though. =]
theysayjump
25-01-2006 22:46:47
I would gladly take that information HumanMan.
nesquik did indeed show me a forum, but there's no real way for me to prove that that's the one in question.
There is more to this story which will hopefully come out or be out by the time I wake up tomorrow. It's not looking good though.
Night.
LucaBella
25-01-2006 22:47:12
Not to mention what if Half.com/eBay comes after us for using fake certs. We could owe them BIG TIME.
real money gone, and even more money owed? I would find him and kick his heart out.
ilanbg
25-01-2006 22:48:35
Luca, you turn me on.
/me sits refreshing page, enjoying comments, not contributing in any way at all.
jack001
25-01-2006 22:49:41
Im sorry to everyone that lost money here, I bought a whole bunch of certs from dude early last week, and spent them all right away...so Im not really out anything on reselling.
The reason I ended up buying from him was because I didnt think he could have just "generated" gift certificate codes with money on them, because if you know how the gift certificate system works, it stores how much money they have for that certain code on their database, so like if you spend a certain amount it remembers how much is left on the gift certificate code. For this reason I thought the gift certificate codes obviously wouldnt have money on them unless someone bought them from half.com and they were activated with that amount of money.
Now, that being said, I guess it doesnt rule out that he hacked the site and stole them from people that actually bought them, or that his family member or himself actually did work there and kept generating them for him....
Whatever it was, im interested to see how this plays out, and if you all get your money back from him; I hope you do
chazmann
25-01-2006 22:50:14
Yeah, I recieved around 200 bucks in half.com gc's from finch a couple months ago...good thing I used all of them up.
I agree, this is like watching lost. I cant stop refreshing the page.
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 22:50:44
Has anyone asked half.com why the GCs no longer worked?
I don't think half.com has any legal grounds to ask for their money back. You didn't know they were fake.
ilanbg
25-01-2006 22:53:10
[quote8999d52666="hehehhehe"]I don't think half.com has any legal grounds to ask for their money back. You didn't know they were fake.[/quote8999d52666]
It's still counterfeit... you can't expect them to let you spend money that doesn't exist in their store, do you?
hyperion479
25-01-2006 22:54:03
Well, DLF did what nothing else had...made me register here at FIPG.
I traded DLF $400 Amazon for $800 Half.com through A4F and received it Jan 23. Luckily I managed to spend a good deal that same night, but still took a decent hit on it when they died.
I know Emoney, a mod at A4F, lost a nice sum as well. But not nearly as bad as some of the numbers I've heard earlier in this post. If ya'll decide to do something, definitely let me know. Until then I'll hover around waiting for some news.
EDIT Also, I'm leaning towards this not being an action on Half.com as none of us have been contacted about the GCs. Plus my recent orders seem to have been unaffected, but I'll continue to keep my fingers crossed about it until they show up at my doorstep.
LucaBella
25-01-2006 22:56:12
[quotedeb1e5e350="hehehhehe"]
I don't think half.com has any legal grounds to ask for their money back. You didn't know they were fake.[/quotedeb1e5e350]
ignorance has never been any sort of defense.
GiftOrb
25-01-2006 22:56:21
[quoted3950cc3b1="chazmann"]
I agree, this is like watching lost. I cant stop refreshing the page.[/quoted3950cc3b1]
LOL. Lost episode today felt like a filler episode. Sorta like the posts now.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 22:58:27
Well, no more IMs/PMs for me...
This is our beloved finch...
http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showuser=3660
http//www.myspace.com/athoughtlost593
http//www.google.com/search?q=athoughtlost593++&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozillaen-USofficial
His band must suck, because I can't bring up shit about them.
jack001
25-01-2006 22:59:51
we dont know that they were counterfeighted yet, and if they were half.com should blame their bad programming, or the guy that hacked them
I dont think its fair to expect them to give you the money left on the cards if they found out the cards were counterfeighted, but if you already spent the money and recieved the items, then I dont think they can ask you for your items back as that would result in the sellers losing money and it would be a giant mess. Also, everyone here that bought from him thought that he was just reselling gift certificates that he already bought in bulk, so he should be liable is he really was the one behind all this
hehehhehe
25-01-2006 23:00:37
[quotea7667ccfa8="ilanbg"][quotea7667ccfa8="hehehhehe"]I don't think half.com has any legal grounds to ask for their money back. You didn't know they were fake.[/quotea7667ccfa8]
It's still counterfeit... you can't expect them to let you spend money that doesn't exist in their store, do you?[/quotea7667ccfa8]
Yeah but its spent money now. So I guess no one wants to ask half.com about the invalid GCs for fear of getting some cash taken away, huh?
He's got enough Amazon credits to reimburse us with merchandise, if not cash. I talked to Amazon too, and the helpful guy there told me what we should do if this isn't resolved amicably.
Does anyone who lost money live in Florida?
HumanMan
25-01-2006 23:06:14
[quote8c85d157a1="TimmyWangy"][quote8c85d157a1]It is information that should not be known by all do to the fact that people would use it to annoy someone who scammed them out of 1 green. Honestly, this board is frequented by a lot of people under 18 (children) who do not understand what this kind of information actually used for.[/quote8c85d157a1]
First off, no one here is scammed out of a green. They were scammed out of REAL MONEY. Some people lost HUNDREDS to THOUSANDS to him. REAL CASH. IP tracking to find his address/name would be useful to start prosecuting him if this was all a scam. I'm sure he'll have enough trouble from both half.com and amazon.com though. =][/quote8c85d157a1]
If you follow what I was saying
I would not release this information for it could be used outside of the people involved in this post.
If one would PM me the ip address they used to sign up/on then I would gladly return the information to that person.
sparrowsingreek
25-01-2006 23:08:22
I did not lose money...but I live in FL.
nextlevel
25-01-2006 23:11:06
[quote7381bdc43d="hehehhehe"]
Does anyone who lost money live in Florida?[/quote7381bdc43d]
I will be going to Florida end of Feb, beginning of March for my son's bday..
nesquik/ricecake was put on hold for a site...
http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42419
mods edit link if need to.. noticed other links in this thread so..
LucaBella
25-01-2006 23:27:35
just messaged someone who gave Finch his last feedback... but they were a buyer so they may not have his person info if paypal was involved...
NOStradamus
25-01-2006 23:30:01
[quote5bf6e08f76="Koleran"][quote5bf6e08f76="nesquik"]my name on anything4free is ricecake, and no, i did not scam that kid on kswiss, i told him how i got it and he still went with the deal.
yes, i pm the mod with the site[/quote5bf6e08f76]
if your name is ricecake, you're a scammer as well
http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42419
http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=41663[/quote5bf6e08f76]
Wow, this just keeps getting more and more interesting...
bballp6699
25-01-2006 23:40:06
My newest information...
Well, a source over at anything4free informed me that DLF's other name, athoughtlost593, made a trade with him a while back using yet, ANOTHER paypal address. Interestingly enough, the paypal address links me to another user on anything4free, which hmmmm lives in Miami, Florida.
I google this name and come up with his deviant art page. I find that he is 16, a brother maybe? I also find his aim screen name. He was online so I messaged him. I got no response, but he was away with the cell phone icon...
More news as provided.
[i7c8b456791]You are watching FIG nightly news. Stay tuned.[/i7c8b456791]
ilanbg
25-01-2006 23:44:18
[quote64232b4ee6="LucaBella"]just messaged someone who gave Finch his last feedback... but they were a buyer so they may not have his person info if paypal was involved...[/quote64232b4ee6]
How do you know who the last person is? The feedback list is in alphabetical order.
NOStradamus
25-01-2006 23:45:10
[quote33577b430e="bballp6699"]My newest information...
Well, a source over at anything4free informed me that DLF's other name, athoughtlost593, made a trade with him a while back using yet, ANOTHER paypal address. Interestingly enough, the paypal address links me to another user on anything4free, which hmmmm lives in Miami, Florida.
I google this name and come up with his deviant art page. I find that he is 16, a brother maybe? I also find his aim screen name. He was online so I messaged him. I got no response, but he was away with the cell phone icon...
More news as provided.
[i33577b430e]You are watching FIG nightly news. Stay tuned.[/i33577b430e][/quote33577b430e]
nice sleuthing skills, we'll see what comes out of this
LucaBella
25-01-2006 23:45:25
ebay feedback. he changed his ebay name from athought lost to joseyauri864.
ilanbg
25-01-2006 23:45:49
He should just get arrested now so I can go to sleep. I have a fucking midterm in five hours.
Fuck. Damn me.
fgr_admin
25-01-2006 23:46:41
[quote1f33283481="hehehhehe"]Has anyone asked half.com why the GCs no longer worked?
I don't think half.com has any legal grounds to ask for their money back. You didn't know they were fake.[/quote1f33283481]
Actually they can. Any tme you perchase something far below its "value" it is considered in the eyes of the law "obvious stolen property".
If some guy sold you a new porshe for 1/2 price, you dont think the police would cease it from you and return it too the owner. They would and will.
Personally I don't think ebay will go after the spenders "YOU". Since that would mean litigation, lawyer fees, etc. They will simply not pay the sellers when they exchange the GC you spent.
Since ebay pays these people the amount that was discounted. They just wont pay it, much easier that way and is in the TOS.
So all you have to worry about is the people you bought stuff from. Odds are they wont go after you unless you spent 2k with them. You might lose your ebay account, but think thats the worst that will happen.
Now to getting your money back. Its simple, albeit legally unethical. Simply file A credit card chargeback. Though since it is through amazon not many people will be able to get the money back.
However with that said when amazon gets 10-20k worth of chargebacks to one member it will for damn sure lock his account and make them look into it.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 23:50:47
[quotec54b86d0c4="LucaBella"]ebay feedback. he changed his ebay name from athought lost to joseyauri864.[/quotec54b86d0c4]
Seems like he gets all his shit shipped to his aunts house. His account on ebay is linked to Hollywood Florida. Who is Jose Yauri I wonder... The only results I get are in New York.
Well, whoever posted his name earlier spelled his last name wrong. I might have found mommy on switch board... Anyone want to call? Actually, I'm heading to bed. Call tomorrow.
LucaBella
25-01-2006 23:55:24
I figure we'll have him by morning...
what a dumbass to try and rip off THIS community.
bballp6699
25-01-2006 23:56:25
I THINK I may have him. We'll see tomorrow.
LucaBella
25-01-2006 23:59:17
Bball, you rock outloud.
ilanbg
26-01-2006 00:11:43
Ah, the rest I need.
How exciting. Consider though that all this happened over the course of about five hours; for all we know he's out partying or something.
akalic
26-01-2006 00:12:57
i never thought i'd see the day...
HumanMan
26-01-2006 00:22:53
Well I have been told that I must wait before I am given his IP address. So instead of having enough information to ge this guy, we will have to settle with what we can find from ebay and such.
ffactoryxx
26-01-2006 00:26:57
Well lets put it this way. Talk to me and give me his ip and everything you have. I will find this kids parents name, place of work, his ss number. YOU NAME IT!!! I know the right people to ask and can find out everything
killerman
26-01-2006 00:28:18
without so much cash at hand , you don't disappear like that for so long
we already go crazy if we go green and don't receive $30 bucks 2 hours later D
theysayjump
26-01-2006 00:30:06
[quote7d02715d52="ffactoryxx"]Well lets put it this way. Talk to me and give me his ip and everything you have. I will find this kids parents name, place of work, his ss number. YOU NAME IT!!! I know the right people to ask and can find out everything[/quote7d02715d52]
if someone wants to tell me or show me how to do this then please do, but i'm not about to give out ip's to random people.
NOStradamus
26-01-2006 00:48:09
[quote9e58a834ad="theysayjump"][quote9e58a834ad="ffactoryxx"]Well lets put it this way. Talk to me and give me his ip and everything you have. I will find this kids parents name, place of work, his ss number. YOU NAME IT!!! I know the right people to ask and can find out everything[/quote9e58a834ad]
if someone wants to tell me or show me how to do this then please do, but i'm not about to give out ip's to random people.[/quote9e58a834ad]
even if he scammed tens of thousands of dollars from your site?
mr_black
26-01-2006 01:01:08
[quotead3b283020="NOStradamus"][quotead3b283020="theysayjump"][quotead3b283020="ffactoryxx"]Well lets put it this way. Talk to me and give me his ip and everything you have. I will find this kids parents name, place of work, his ss number. YOU NAME IT!!! I know the right people to ask and can find out everything[/quotead3b283020]
if someone wants to tell me or show me how to do this then please do, but i'm not about to give out ip's to random people.[/quotead3b283020]
even if he scammed tens of thousands of dollars from your site?[/quotead3b283020]
inresponse to ^^^
[quotead3b283020="Admin"]We (the FreeiPodGuide administration) take NO RESPONSIBILITY for the actions of buyers or sellers on this board.
As always, trust your instincts and your best judgement.
While we will make every effort possible to eliminate scamming, there is only so much we can do. Trust is up to individual users.
The forum
rules[=http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=76]rules apply here, naturally.[/quotead3b283020]
just my 0.02 on that
slease
26-01-2006 01:08:35
[quote60dbe93077="fgr_admin"]
Personally I don't think ebay will go after the spenders "YOU". Since that would mean litigation, lawyer fees, etc. They will simply not pay the sellers when they exchange the GC you spent.
Since ebay pays these people the amount that was discounted. They just wont pay it, much easier that way and is in the TOS.
So all you have to worry about is the people you bought stuff from. Odds are they wont go after you unless you spent 2k with them. You might lose your ebay account, but think thats the worst that will happen.[/quote60dbe93077]
Although I realize that this is your personal opinion, I don't think that ebay would have any legal right to do that. If the items were purchased with stolen CCs then yes, they would do that, but because they are actual Half.com branded gift cards they have to honor them, because somewhere down the line someone fucked up in their company to make those available.
Crynos
26-01-2006 04:26:57
DLF owes me $250 real cash and $200 half
Bildo818
26-01-2006 05:48:31
yeah---I also have access to hundreds of ways to find out peoples info. But, don't worry about IP address's, someone PM me all his info, and I will check our database (state and federal)
afro_wolff
26-01-2006 06:55:49
OMG...So i tried to purchase $500.00 in bestbuy GC and have him sent to DLF....He said he'd then send me $1,100 Half.com. ANYWAY....The (Prepaid) giftcard/credit card i used made the order THREE days later get canceled.....So there putting the money back...I guess i have to use the card IN STORES ONLY....
Anyway...he told me to send them to his GF which i have the address of....Would this information be beneficial to anyone here or are ya'll just pissed with no real need to find him??
shamash
26-01-2006 06:56:23
Seriously, you can't find that much with an IP address unless you use it to find their ISP and ask their ISP about it. Most ISPs wont tell you shit unless you're in the RIAA, MPAA, or a federal agency.
shamash
26-01-2006 07:00:10
I think they would greatly appreciate his "girfriend"'s address.
kdollar
26-01-2006 07:02:10
well its morning, and DLF is already chillin in mexico with everyones cash, prolly sippin a pina colada, i wouldnt wanna piss of fipg, yall mother fuckers are on a which hunt, and believe me id be doin more than postin, b/c i cant afford to take a hit like ya'll did in the bank account.
i almost did it too, got a lil extra cash from the rents, thought id invest it, good thing i used the money for what it was. more and more the right thing to do seems to workout best.
but i assure everyone, with everyone on the case, DLF will go down prosecuted, to the full extent.
UniPrize Media
26-01-2006 07:02:55
I am loving this. The problem with u guys is that u never really questioned how he got the gift cards. So far all i heard is he got connections...
Well good luck to all of u.
Oh i forgot to mention, i was gona trade with him and i asked him to pm me on A4f a couple days ago and he couldnt do that. I asked him why and he said something about he has to switch IP addresses. That is when i called it off.
afro_wolff
26-01-2006 07:22:36
[quotec3a7c00703]sounds good send it to my g/f in FL
Maria Ramirez
1425 Arthur St. Apt.106
Hollywood FL 33020
[/quotec3a7c00703]
[quotec3a7c00703]Sounds good Looking forward to giving you $1,100 when it comes can i get tracking if their is any?[/quotec3a7c00703]
That "Looking foward to giving you 1,100 just seemed odd...Means absolutly nothing but i got a giggle about how excited he was to give me more then i paid....
bballp6699
26-01-2006 07:42:13
Ok, I'm awake now. Does anyone want to give the suspected mom a call?
hermitstyle
26-01-2006 07:42:22
[quoteb4901e5783="afro_wolff"][quoteb4901e5783]sounds good send it to my g/f in FL
Maria Ramirez
1425 Arthur St. Apt.106
Hollywood FL 33020
[/quoteb4901e5783]
[quoteb4901e5783]Sounds good Looking forward to giving you $1,100 when it comes can i get tracking if their is any?[/quoteb4901e5783]
That "Looking foward to giving you 1,100 just seemed odd...Means absolutly nothing but i got a giggle about how excited he was to give me more then i paid....[/quoteb4901e5783]
isn't that the address of his "aunt"? that would be concrete evidence enough for me to hop on a plane and beat the information out of anyone in that haouse if i lost my money.
UniPrize Media
26-01-2006 07:49:27
U guys remember WOOD? I think he was something to do with it...
bballp6699
26-01-2006 07:49:54
[quote918bd5506d]sounds good send it to my g/f in FL
Maria Ramirez
1425 Arthur St. Apt.106
Hollywood FL 33020
[/quote918bd5506d]
So, his "aunt" was really his girlfriend?
Then's not get too crazy with this guys. Finch is 19, I'm pretty sure, so his girlfriend could be young or a minor.
[quote918bd5506d="ulenie"]U guys remember WOOD? I think he was something to do with it...[/quote918bd5506d]
No, wood had absolutley NOTHING to do with it.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 07:55:14
Lucia Yauri
(305) 666-5027
^^^^ his mom pretty sure call and ask for either jose or gianfranco
bballp6699
26-01-2006 07:56:44
[quotebcb3f69e33="Th3Great1"]Lucia Yauri
(305) 666-5027
^^^^ his mom pretty sure call and ask for either jose or gianfranco[/quotebcb3f69e33]
Ask for Gio. If she says who, then spit out the whole name. That was my guess on the mom too, but don't post the address. You could be wrong.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 07:57:26
edit....might as well edit ur quote too...
bballp6699
26-01-2006 07:58:30
[quotefbd2f3bf70="Th3Great1"]edit....might as well edit ur quote too...[/quotefbd2f3bf70]
;)
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 08:00:47
dam soembody should call lol i just woke up didnt evn brush yet
bballp6699
26-01-2006 08:01:50
I don't speak spanish.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 08:03:00
lmaoo he is mexican right?
double0civicsi
26-01-2006 08:05:04
I called. She said there was no Gio or Gian, I forgot to ask for Jose though. She did verify that her name was Lucia Yauri. She didnt speak very good english at all so maybe someone who speaks spanish should call.
Koleran
26-01-2006 08:06:25
get the local police involved
Lucia Yauri could be in on it as well
bballp6699
26-01-2006 08:09:05
Just be careful who you get involved. That person could be way off.
Maybe we should call in
![]("0286a9ff93)
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Th3Great1
26-01-2006 08:11:29
wow i found something else out remember latino pride on gearlive who got banned for frauding? well guess what that was finch too
bballp6699
26-01-2006 08:12:36
Might be, that was a former ebay nick of his.
zbalz
26-01-2006 08:12:55
damn! just found out about this posting RIGHT after i checked my half.com code. Tried to buy a textbook off half this morning...BROKEN.
Oh well, it was only a $50 code for me. Just a waste of an offer/site done in trade.
Sucks for all yall though.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 08:13:07
yea im pretty sure they both were the same person
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 08:13:58
[quoted5a225fc37="zbalz"]damn! just found out about this posting RIGHT after i checked my half.com code. Tried to buy a textbook off half this morning...BROKEN.
Oh well, it was only a $50 code for me. Just a waste of an offer/site done in trade.
Sucks for all yall though.[/quoted5a225fc37]
well at least u didnt send a $590 giftcard exactly 5 hours before this topic...
bballp6699
26-01-2006 08:16:33
Well, I didn't want to post this before because I thought I might be able to talk to him, but jerrito11 (aim), and jerrito1 on a4f is involved...
Brother? Alter ego?
Brutus
26-01-2006 08:19:07
If you haven't done so already I would suggest that you call Amazon and try and get the GCs canceled. There is a pretty good chance that they will cancel it if he hasn't spent it yet.
If it turn out it was some big mis-understanding people can always send the GCs again.
double0civicsi
26-01-2006 08:23:24
[quote024577d3c0="bballp6699"]Well, I didn't want to post this before because I thought I might be able to talk to him, but jerrito11 (aim), and jerrito1 on a4f is involved...
Brother? Alter ego?[/quote024577d3c0]
Did he ever respond?
bballp6699
26-01-2006 08:25:50
He has a cell phone up and he never responded. However, I asked for "Gio"'s cell number and made up a fake screen name.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 08:27:39
no offfense but dude could be reading this whole topic and is one step ahead of us, I think the mods should make this private and only to registerd members...
bballp6699
26-01-2006 08:32:04
Yeah, but my thoughts are that he's either running or scared shitless and has everyone warned anyways.
ilanbg
26-01-2006 08:34:54
[quote1c611d5da5="Th3Great1"]no offfense but dude could be reading this whole topic and is one step ahead of us, I think the mods should make this private and only to registerd members...[/quote1c611d5da5]
lol, good point. Maybe ban him and move it to another area of the forums...
Or maybe people could just PM the mods and let them compile a list of information and decide what to do.
Someone needs to call the police and ask them if anyone by his name lives in the town, and if there is to apprehend him and then... shoot him.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 08:36:32
we should...
sweeedfish
26-01-2006 08:44:05
Good thing I used all mine =0
bballp6699
26-01-2006 08:45:56
Unless they come after you too...
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 08:47:48
man i didnt even get any half.com certs lol i just lost $590 str8 up
bballp6699
26-01-2006 08:50:00
There needs to be a collection plate made up for you and palmer.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 08:50:45
i wish but dam looks like i gotta sell that 60gig vid ipod im going to get from trainn to cover up this loss
Brutus
26-01-2006 08:56:08
[quote28b4436bbc="Th3Great1"]man i didnt even get any half.com certs lol i just lost $590 str8 up[/quote28b4436bbc]
Where is the GC from? More than likely if you just sent it the other day he didn't have time to spend it and you may be able to get the money back.
GiftOrb
26-01-2006 08:57:22
I'm pretty sure he spent it asap if he planned to scam. the $500 amazon.com gift cards I sent him are all locked into his acct or spent already.
Brutus
26-01-2006 08:59:09
[quote9076ecf8b6="TimmyWangy"]I'm pretty sure he spent it asap if he planned to scam. the $500 amazon.com gift cards I sent him are all locked into his acct or spent already.[/quote9076ecf8b6]
Amazon said that he had over $11k in GCs in his Amazon account, so you never know.
kevxross
26-01-2006 08:59:12
nextlevel
26-01-2006 09:04:06
ilanbg
26-01-2006 09:06:40
The photo is just a link to his feedback. You may want to change that.
nextlevel
26-01-2006 09:09:35
[quoteb9f5772529="ilanbg"]The photo is just a link to his feedback. You may want to change that.[/quoteb9f5772529]
yea i fixed it..
theysayjump
26-01-2006 09:26:02
After doing a search on here for Jerrito I came up with this guy
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=5451
Read the below link, downwards. Not only is there a screenshot with "his friends" name (luis Gaud), but there is a transaction ID.
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=25058#237708
I'm going to speak to bond4284 to see if he can have a look for the e-mail that was sent from.
The IP that jerrito1 registered from and posted from is in West Palm Beach, FLorida. The IP that DLF posted from in that same thread is from a different ISP and a different "part of town", but both in Florida.
Also, DLF has about 60 IP's that he has used on this forum and there's no way I'm giving any of them out to anyone, regardless of the circumstances.
If you want to help, then give me any and all information that you think wight help, even if it's been posted before.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 09:27:52
shit gets more and more intresting...
theysayjump
26-01-2006 09:30:45
I locked that thread incase he decides the info needs to be edited.
double0civicsi
26-01-2006 09:35:00
DLF owed me money back in Nov. and had his "friend" send it to me. I searched my paypal records last night and told bball about Jerrito1. He was on a4f this morning. Anyway payment came from Luis Gaud email= address email=jerrito1@gmail.comjerrito1@gmail.com address email=jerrito1@gmail.comjerrito1@gmail.com/email.
edit - also over at a4f Jerrito has posted that he has known DLF for years.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 09:35:46
well they both do live in miami...friends maybe...
idrinklisterine
26-01-2006 09:46:12
Has there been any progress in trying to get the Amazon GCs cancelled?
double0civicsi
26-01-2006 09:49:10
Jerrito - http//profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=19567723
LucaBella
26-01-2006 09:52:21
[quote54e8f2de65="idrinklisterine"]Has there been any progress in trying to get the Amazon GCs cancelled?[/quote54e8f2de65]
I called last night, they promised little, just said they'd leave a message for the gift cert staff to see how they wanted to handle this. I'm predicting chargebacks galore.
and if the sellers from half.com don't get paid my ebay feedback will be ruined.. this is so awful.
idrinklisterine
26-01-2006 09:54:46
Well I used some before the last half.com payment cycle (the 15th I believe), and I guess all the sellers got paid because I haven't heard anything from them. There were about 5 different sellers I bought from too (a bunch of textbooks). My friends used some GCs on Xbox 360's and their sellers look like they got paid too.
theysayjump
26-01-2006 09:56:50
[quote93261c7fa3="double0civicsi"]Jerrito - http//profile.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=user.viewprofile&friendID=19567723[/quote93261c7fa3]
From the link in his DeviantART page
[quote93261c7fa3]# is an AIM user; jerrito11
# is an MSN Messenger user; email==jerrito1@hotmail.comjerrito1@hotmail.com=jerrito1@hotmail.comjerrito1@hotmail.com/email
# is a Yahoo Messenger user; jerrito1[/quote93261c7fa3]
Airkat
26-01-2006 10:08:15
VERY interesting. I had expressed interest in buying and backed out because it sounded shady. Not too long before this thread was created he randomly IMd me...
the 23rd
[quote0a4f5a1865]
dudeFinch1035 mather fucker
MySN ?
[/quote0a4f5a1865]
Peinecone
26-01-2006 10:30:57
[quote0d144a3713="hermitstyle"][quote0d144a3713="afro_wolff"][quote0d144a3713]sounds good send it to my g/f in FL
Maria Ramirez
1425 Arthur St. Apt.106
Hollywood FL 33020
[/quote0d144a3713]
[quote0d144a3713]Sounds good Looking forward to giving you $1,100 when it comes can i get tracking if their is any?[/quote0d144a3713]
That "Looking foward to giving you 1,100 just seemed odd...Means absolutly nothing but i got a giggle about how excited he was to give me more then i paid....[/quote0d144a3713]
isn't that the address of his "aunt"? that would be concrete evidence enough for me to hop on a plane and beat the information out of anyone in that haouse if i lost my money.[/quote0d144a3713]
Yes, that is the exact name and address of his "aunt" who i sent my computer to in exchange for gc's.
Thank god i had already ordered my 360 from half before i even shipped my computer.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 10:33:22
weird....
could it be that his aunt/gf could be himself...ramirez thats a giveaway lmao
i unno...
fgr_admin
26-01-2006 10:38:42
I have a question that might sound dumb but....
Why has no one called ebay and asked why the GC are bogus now? They have no idea what you paid for them.
Simply state you traded amazon GC for half.com GC, and you want to make sure they arent stolen, etc, etc. Or why they no longer work and "oh my please dont tell me i traded my amazon gc for stolen products, oh dear me". etc, etc....
Plus this might give you a hell of a lot more info. If they were simply generated or stolen, or he used them up, etc
damac
26-01-2006 10:41:21
yeah i would have done that asap, but i never got any codes, lol
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 10:41:49
same here...
hehehhehe
26-01-2006 10:45:48
[quote68b5ab3fbc="fgr_admin"]I have a question that might sound dumb but....
Why has no one called ebay and asked why the GC are bogus now? They have no idea what you paid for them.
Simply state you traded amazon GC for half.com GC, and you want to make sure they arent stolen, etc, etc. Or why they no longer work and "oh my please dont tell me i traded my amazon gc for stolen products, oh dear me". etc, etc....
Plus this might give you a hell of a lot more info. If they were simply generated or stolen, or he used them up, etc[/quote68b5ab3fbc]
I asked that but people were mum, probably because they didn't want to have half.com ask for their money back. Isn't there anyone who couldn't use any of their GCs and have nothing to lose?
Maybe zbalz can call them and ask, his was only $50.
ilanbg
26-01-2006 10:46:04
Same here.
Oh wait, I never bought anything from him.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 10:47:14
hmm another possible theory is that he didnt want the scammer (the guy who scammed him out of $4000) to win so he spent all the gc numbers he had on stuff even those people who had nothing to do with the scamming and he reliazed what he did and he doesnt want to face the music....
theysayjump
26-01-2006 10:48:52
[quote71e03b7630]SANTA MONICA APTS
1425 ARTHUR ST
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3772
[b71e03b7630]SANTA MONICA APTS 1
1425 ARTHUR ST APT (Range 101 - 107)
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3701 [/b71e03b7630]
SANTA MONICA APTS 2
1425 ARTHUR ST APT (Range 108 - 114)
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3702
SANTA MONICA APTS 3
1425 ARTHUR ST APT (Range 205 - 210)
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3703
SANTA MONICA APTS 4
1425 ARTHUR ST APT (Range 302 - 307)
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3704
SANTA MONICA APTS
1425 ARTHUR ST APT 308
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3704
SANTA MONICA APTS
1425 ARTHUR ST APT (Range 309 - 316)
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3709
SANTA MONICA APTS
1425 ARTHUR ST APT (Range 401 - 406)
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3711
SANTA MONICA APTS
1425 ARTHUR ST APT (Range 414 - 503)
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3718
1425 ARTHUR ST STE 76
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3720
1425 ARTHUR ST
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3720
SANTA MONICA APTS
1425 ARTHUR ST APT (Range 510 - 516)
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3720
SANTA MONICA APTS 2
1425 ARTHUR ST APT (Range 115 - 204)
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3780
SANTA MONICA APTS 3
1425 ARTHUR ST APT (Range 211 - 301)
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3781
SANTA MONICA APTS
1425 ARTHUR ST APT (Range 407 - 412)
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3782
SANTA MONICA APTS
1425 ARTHUR ST APT (Range 504 - 509)
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3783
(ODD Range 1401 - 1499) ARTHUR ST
HOLLYWOOD FL 33020-3742 [/quote71e03b7630]
kevxross
26-01-2006 10:59:22
My sources say that address, but Apt. 109.
And why are you so willing to give out info like that, but not a simple IP?
theysayjump
26-01-2006 11:05:58
[quote87e372753d="kevxross"]My sources say that address, but Apt. 109.
And why are you so willing to give out info like that, but not a simple IP?[/quote87e372753d]
How many people can Google for that information?
How many people have access to his IP?
I'm saving the lazy people time.
hehehhehe
26-01-2006 11:10:31
[quote022fcef274="kevxross"]My sources say that address, but Apt. 109.
And why are you so willing to give out info like that, but not a simple IP?[/quote022fcef274]
If someone really has the ability to do something with an IP, they should tell TSJ how they can do it (law enforcement database, etc...).
We already have several ways to get to this guy, I just hope he comes back and gives us our money back by buying shit and sending from Amazon if he has to (he certainly has the means). Otherwise, he really is going to be in trouble with the law. If he thinks a bunch of us calling him late at night is the worst that can happen, he is dead wrong.
LucaBella
26-01-2006 11:13:35
[quote81e0e8380f="Th3Great1"]hmm another possible theory is that he didnt want the scammer (the guy who scammed him out of $4000) to win so he spent all the gc numbers he had on stuff even those people who had nothing to do with the scamming and he reliazed what he did and he doesnt want to face the music....[/quote81e0e8380f]
this reminds me of what people were saying about BoneSmoker, I mean, gatita. Stop making excuses for other people's thievery. Everyone on a4f is still saying she probably lost the Bingo money and couldn't pay people so she left. Bullshit. She ran off with everyone's money same here.
And I don't care if someone stole his house, that doesn't mean it's at all jusitifiable that he could rip us off to "make up for it".I'm not trying to yell at you, but don't give this guy any excuses. Once you realize how much shit he did to hide his identity, how MANY indentities he had, and how long it took and how much effort he put into being able to get our money in an untracable manner you realize he did this from the Very beginning. He planned from the beginning.
Crynos
26-01-2006 11:24:42
DLF has been active at A4F since this stuff went down
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 11:24:54
[quote2095728c6f="LucaBella"][quote2095728c6f="Th3Great1"]hmm another possible theory is that he didnt want the scammer (the guy who scammed him out of $4000) to win so he spent all the gc numbers he had on stuff even those people who had nothing to do with the scamming and he reliazed what he did and he doesnt want to face the music....[/quote2095728c6f]
this reminds me of what people were saying about BoneSmoker, I mean, gatita. Stop making excuses for other people's thievery. Everyone on a4f is still saying she probably lost the Bingo money and couldn't pay people so she left. Bullshit. She ran off with everyone's money same here.
And I don't care if someone stole his house, that doesn't mean it's at all jusitifiable that he could rip us off to "make up for it".I'm not trying to yell at you, but don't give this guy any excuses. Once you realize how much shit he did to hide his identity, how MANY indentities he had, and how long it took and how much effort he put into being able to get our money in an untracable manner you realize he did this from the Very beginning. He planned from the beginning.[/quote2095728c6f]
lmao i got scammed by both of them and i used to be so close with both of them...
kevxross
26-01-2006 11:28:58
[quote6ad12044eb="Crynos"]DLF has been active at A4F since this stuff went down[/quote6ad12044eb]
Posting, or just logged in? Is there a thread like this one over there? Did he respond to it? Link? What's your favorite color?
I'm sure he's had a gander at this thread by now too. And I hope he's read it all and realizes that he's not gonna get away with this shit.
Cash4Cookies
26-01-2006 11:30:35
wood told me to tell you guys that he has a possible way to get the amazon giftcards back. something about taking legal action. stay tuned...
Peinecone
26-01-2006 11:33:42
[quote38e30343cf="Cash4Cookies"]wood told me to tell you guys that he has a possible way to get the amazon giftcards back. something about taking legal action. stay tuned...[/quote38e30343cf]
That would be almost worth letting Wood back here. lol
Crynos
26-01-2006 11:34:51
[quote53d30423c1="Peinecone"][quote53d30423c1="Cash4Cookies"]wood told me to tell you guys that he has a possible way to get the amazon giftcards back. something about taking legal action. stay tuned...[/quote53d30423c1]
That would be almost worth letting Wood back here. lol[/quote53d30423c1]Ill definitely be contacting him
Brutus
26-01-2006 11:42:20
I think that Amazon will at least be willing to give Amazon credit for any GC that has not been spent. This situation could hurt them in the end with bad publicity and people not buying GCs from them, if it gets out on a large scale. If they end up giving you Amazon credit, they lose nothing. They still have the money, just a different person will be spending it.
Just my opinion.
emoney
26-01-2006 11:43:15
I just got this reply after asking half.com why my GC is in invalid
[quote03ea7ca0a3]Hi Eric,
Thank you for writing to Half.com. It will be my pleasure to help you.
I reviewed your gift certificate code and have found that your gift
certificate code has been canceled by our Trust and Safety department.
Please contact the person whom you received the Gift Certificate code
from in regards to receiving a refund. I sincerely apologize for the
inconvenience in this matter.
Thank you for your understanding in this situation.
Regards,
Michael D. - Senior Half.com Customer Support Representative[/quote03ea7ca0a3]
oh, and sorry if someone already posted this, I read pages 1-6 I believe.
kevxross
26-01-2006 11:44:40
Well it definately looks like they're not planning to take any action against those of us who spent the GCs at this point, which is good news.
LucaBella
26-01-2006 11:44:56
No, no one posted it, Emoney....
well eBay doesn't care.. thats always nice...
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 11:45:15
thx for trying eric....
jack001
26-01-2006 11:45:56
thanks emoney, nobody posted that they contacted half.com yet....
From what I gather from their reply, he was either hacking their sight and stealing them, or an employee on the inside was helping him out. Either way, it seems that they just want you to deal with the person that sold you the giftcards
Crynos
26-01-2006 11:46:43
[quotee664c3cac8="kevxross"]Well it definately looks like they're not planning to take any action against those of us who spent the GCs at this point, which is good news.[/quotee664c3cac8]It looks more like DLF told half the GC's were stolen and they cancelled them.
kevxross
26-01-2006 11:47:13
emoney, could you post your original message to them? I just read it again and they say straight up "[be020c43360]Please contact the person whom you received the Gift Certificate code from[/be020c43360]" so they know you didn't buy it from them directly. I seriously hope they're goin after DLF.
Brutus
26-01-2006 11:48:35
From that statement another question comes up. What if you bought something? I'm not sure how half.com works, but from the little reading that I have done it seems that sellers are payed on the 15th and the 30th of every month. Once you use your GCs I wonder if they are considered valid and erased and half.com just earmarks it as money before they pay the seller or if they check the GCs before they send money out.
jack001
26-01-2006 11:49:40
I was just thinking, why would dude tell half.com they were stolen and get them cancelled...UNLESS they would be giving him a refund for all the unused cards AND he would be keeping the money he sold them all for...thats a possibility i guess, and maybe half.com could tell us more on the matter if someone asked.
Crynos
26-01-2006 11:50:38
[quoteeb30afa8f3="jack001"]I was just thinking, why would dude tell half.com they were stolen and get them cancelled...UNLESS they would be giving him a refund for all the unused cards AND he would be keeping the money he sold them all for...thats a possibility i guess, and maybe half.com could tell us more on the matter if someone asked.[/quoteeb30afa8f3]Thats prolly what happens
LucaBella
26-01-2006 11:50:40
[quoteb08a3e365d="Brutus"]From that statement another question comes up. What if you bought something? I'm not sure how half.com works, but from the little reading that I have done it seems that sellers are payed on the 15th and the 30th of every month. Once you use your GCs I wonder if they are considered valid and erased and half.com just earmarks it as money before they pay the seller or if they check the GCs before they send money out.[/quoteb08a3e365d]
this is what I'm worried about. I'm going to have to do a chargeback with amazon because I may have to return what I bought, and then I'd be out of everything. Because if the sellers don't get paid in the end, they're gonna tapdance all over my perfect feedback.
kevxross
26-01-2006 11:52:21
Yeah, we might actually be able to get more than a canned response out of Half.com eventually, because it's not like this is just some little bullshit forum issue, this is well over $25,000 of Half.com money. This is an issue that actually matters as much to them as it does to us.
jack001
26-01-2006 11:54:46
luca, before you do a chargeback with amazon, who probably wouldnt be too happy about that if the moneys spent, you should maybe contact half.com and see what they plan to do about it. Its possible that they consider the GCs already used to be just that, and they only cancelled the ones that havent been used/ still had money on them.
Brutus
26-01-2006 11:57:10
I don't think a chargeback against Amazon is going to work. Amazon didn't do anything wrong. They sent a GC to the person that you specified. I do think they will try and help in some way, since this could be bad PR for them. Not helping people that got scammed when they could have, etc.
emoney
26-01-2006 12:04:18
Just got off the phone with Amazon, and the operator told me she would forward the codes along with my info. I basically told her that I traded the codes for half.com codes that I never received, and she told me I should be able to get my money from amazon back. I doubt it, but who knows...
Oh, by the way, I already had the codes (got them from 3604free) and just forwarded them to Dude. Don't know if that changes things in the eyes of Amazon...
GiftOrb
26-01-2006 12:17:14
[quote3aca240059="emoney"]Just got off the phone with Amazon, and the operator told me she would forward the codes along with my info. I basically told her that I traded the codes for half.com codes that I never received, and she told me I should be able to get my money from amazon back. I doubt it, but who knows...
Oh, by the way, I already had the codes (got them from 3604free) and just forwarded them to Dude. Don't know if that changes things in the eyes of Amazon...[/quote3aca240059]
You got amazon codes from 3604free? Or you mean you sent the amazon gift cert to your own e-mail address, and fowared that to dude?
idrinklisterine
26-01-2006 12:21:55
[quotefd97bbfd06="TimmyWangy"][quotefd97bbfd06="emoney"]Just got off the phone with Amazon, and the operator told me she would forward the codes along with my info. I basically told her that I traded the codes for half.com codes that I never received, and she told me I should be able to get my money from amazon back. I doubt it, but who knows...
Oh, by the way, I already had the codes (got them from 3604free) and just forwarded them to Dude. Don't know if that changes things in the eyes of Amazon...[/quotefd97bbfd06]
You got amazon codes from 3604free? Or you mean you sent the amazon gift cert to your own e-mail address, and fowared that to dude?[/quotefd97bbfd06]
Thats how I did it when I bought from him, I'm not sure if that will make it harder for me to get my money back.
kdollar
26-01-2006 12:25:21
this is strayed off the topic a bit, but i think this is just wastin time till someone finds dlf, but what did wood do?
emoney
26-01-2006 12:26:43
[quotefae5154a87="TimmyWangy"][quotefae5154a87="emoney"]Just got off the phone with Amazon, and the operator told me she would forward the codes along with my info. I basically told her that I traded the codes for half.com codes that I never received, and she told me I should be able to get my money from amazon back. I doubt it, but who knows...
Oh, by the way, I already had the codes (got them from 3604free) and just forwarded them to Dude. Don't know if that changes things in the eyes of Amazon...[/quotefae5154a87]
You got amazon codes from 3604free? Or you mean you sent the amazon gift cert to your own e-mail address, and fowared that to dude?[/quotefae5154a87]
Yeah, I took the 450$ of Amazon option from 3604free. So they had my email address and everything, and I just forwarded it to him. Not sure if that makes the situation better or worse (although I doubt I'll see any of it).
So I guess if I look at in in the right light, I'm not losing 350 of amazon but rather 100$ in referral for cash trades and the ability to do a few offers that I did in trades...Wait, that even sounds worse. (
bballp6699
26-01-2006 12:27:06
Wood wants to get in on it because he went in $500 with me on a $1500 deal. DLF wouldn't sell wood any gift cards. Why, you might ask?
He claims it was because wood was a scammer, however, he was interested until wood wanted to send him a personal check. Draw your own conclusions from there...
Yeah, tsj, I had all that information last night about jerrito, with his deviant and all...
CoMpFrEaK
26-01-2006 12:28:38
Later tonight i'll be able to obtain his address/IP/email used for a freebie site.
emoney
26-01-2006 12:34:10
[quotedc07e91cb6="kevxross"]emoney, could you post your original message to them? I just read it again and they say straight up "[bdc07e91cb6]Please contact the person whom you received the Gift Certificate code from[/bdc07e91cb6]" so they know you didn't buy it from them directly. I seriously hope they're goin after DLF.[/quotedc07e91cb6]
The only copy of my original message is in my Outlook at home, but I basically told them that I bought a few GC's from this guy and I used 1 a few times, and then they were all invalid. I got this reply to my original message
[quotedc07e91cb6]I would be glad to assist you in locating this Gift Certificate code.
However, I need more information from you. Please include your User
ID,
transaction number and the email address of the recipient of the Gift Certificate you purchased. Once I receive this information, I will
research it and get back to you.[/quotedc07e91cb6]
So I replied with that info with the Jake Barney email address.
bballp6699
26-01-2006 12:37:19
Well, jerrito now knows he's in on the mess, but he only responded to ask who I was...
[quote0ab3846d5c]
eagles03sixers luis, you there?
jerrito11 Your IM has been sent to my mobile device. When I receive it, I will be able to reply. Thanks for your IM! Want your IMs forwarded to your phone? Click here
jerrito11 Whos this?
eagles03sixers I just thought I'd let you know that dudefinchs/alostthought accounts were linked to you and many people are calling the local police about him scamming out of $10k. Just incase you had information...
eagles03sixers I saw you your deviant and a4f page that you were 16, so I thought before they started sending the masses to a minors house, I'd let you speak up...
[/quote0ab3846d5c]
I should have had something better prepared, but I honestly didn't expect him to respond.
tampadan
26-01-2006 12:46:01
[quotee544df9052="bballp6699"]Well, jerrito now knows he's in on the mess, but he only responded to ask who I was...
[quotee544df9052]
eagles03sixers luis, you there?
jerrito11 Your IM has been sent to my mobile device. When I receive it, I will be able to reply. Thanks for your IM! Want your IMs forwarded to your phone? Click here
jerrito11 Whos this?
eagles03sixers I just thought I'd let you know that dudefinchs/alostthought accounts were linked to you and many people are calling the local police about him scamming out of $10k. Just incase you had information...
eagles03sixers I saw you your deviant and a4f page that you were 16, so I thought before they started sending the masses to a minors house, I'd let you speak up...
[/quotee544df9052]
I should have had something better prepared, but I honestly didn't expect him to respond.[/quotee544df9052]
oo interesting
unknown uchiha
26-01-2006 12:48:32
OMG let's go an a Judge show! Like FIG vs. DLF or something... Or it can be like COPS Freebie Site Scammers Edition. ><
Admin
26-01-2006 12:49:27
I realize that this is real money and that a lot of you are upset, but I can't help but laugh really hard at this.
Greed is a really disgusting thing. Maybe my least favorite part of human nature. This seems just like 12DP to me. Clearly, the business model makes no logical sense, but people will try to find reasons why its legit. It's the same here. Why would half.com eat that much money? I could understand smaller-value ones given away at, for example, trade shows, in order to generate interest. But thousands upon thousands of dollars simply given away? Jesus christ, guys, think of the golden fucking rule. If this "deal" didn't scream 'too good to be true', I don't know what does. I'd feel sorry for you all but it seems to me like you're victims of your own greed. Would you respond to a classified ad selling an expensive car for half its bluebook? I wouldn't; it's probably stolen, salvaged title, or a money laundering scam. How is this different?
GiftOrb
26-01-2006 12:49:37
Judge Judy
tampadan
26-01-2006 12:52:50
[quote743da12be8="Admin"]I realize that this is real money and that a lot of you are upset, but I can't help but laugh really hard at this.
Greed is a really disgusting thing. Maybe my least favorite part of human nature. This seems just like 12DP to me. Clearly, the business model makes no logical sense, but people will try to find reasons why its legit. It's the same here. Why would half.com eat that much money? I could understand smaller-value ones given away at, for example, trade shows, in order to generate interest. But thousands upon thousands of dollars simply given away? Jesus christ, guys, think of the golden fucking rule. If this "deal" didn't scream 'too good to be true', I don't know what does. I'd feel sorry for you all but it seems to me like you're victims of your own greed. Would you respond to a classified ad selling an expensive car for half its bluebook? I wouldn't; it's probably stolen, salvaged title, or a money laundering scam. How is this different?[/quote743da12be8]
well put...12dp made me feel dirty when i was in it so i got outz!
bballp6699
26-01-2006 12:53:45
[quote99adac7aee="Admin"]
Greed is a really disgusting thing. Maybe my least favorite part of human nature. This seems just like 12DP to me. Clearly, the business model makes no logical sense, but people will try to find reasons why its legit. It's the same here. Why would half.com eat that much money? I could understand smaller-value ones given away at, for example, trade shows, in order to generate interest. But thousands upon thousands of dollars simply given away? Jesus christ, guys, think of the golden fucking rule. If this "deal" didn't scream 'too good to be true', I don't know what does. I'd feel sorry for you all but it seems to me like you're victims of your own greed. Would you respond to a classified ad selling an expensive car for half its bluebook? I wouldn't; it's probably stolen, salvaged title, or a money laundering scam. How is this different?[/quote99adac7aee]
Thanks for the lecture.
[quote99adac7aee]
eagles03sixers If you see him please tell him that we just want what is owed since he spent our money already. Email me at -blah-
jerrito11 Yeh, whenever i [b99adac7aee]see[/b99adac7aee] him ill let him know. And tell people to stop messaging me because i an not involved in anyway with this. Also it sucks having 50 mes
jerrito11 sages sent to my phone
eagles03sixers I will tell them...
[/quote99adac7aee]
emoney
26-01-2006 12:55:13
[quotef70b7ce957="Admin"]I realize that this is real money and that a lot of you are upset, but I can't help but laugh really hard at this.
Greed is a really disgusting thing. Maybe my least favorite part of human nature. This seems just like 12DP to me. Clearly, the business model makes no logical sense, but people will try to find reasons why its legit. It's the same here. Why would half.com eat that much money? I could understand smaller-value ones given away at, for example, trade shows, in order to generate interest. But thousands upon thousands of dollars simply given away? Jesus christ, guys, think of the golden fucking rule. If this "deal" didn't scream 'too good to be true', I don't know what does. I'd feel sorry for you all but it seems to me like you're victims of your own greed. Would you respond to a classified ad selling an expensive car for half its bluebook? I wouldn't; it's probably stolen, salvaged title, or a money laundering scam. How is this different?[/quotef70b7ce957]
True, but when I first saw freeipods.com, I thought it was much too good to be true. But yeah, right when I found out my codes were invalid, I realized I was stupid for thinking it was legit.
ajrock2000
26-01-2006 12:56:20
I just got done reading this entire thread, and it has been by far the most entertaining thread to read. Unfortunately, it involved a lot of people getting owned. (
Sucks for all it happened to, I hope this guy pays for it.
GiftOrb
26-01-2006 12:56:47
12DP die or something?
ajrock2000
26-01-2006 12:57:53
Don't believe so...
tampadan
26-01-2006 12:58:14
[quote0f63add176="TimmyWangy"]12DP die or something?[/quote0f63add176]'
not yet...but soon?
bballp6699
26-01-2006 13:06:21
Fuck, jeritto said he only knows him by his screen name. I don't know if I buy it though. I asked if Gian-etc- was his name and he said he thinks so.
Airkat
26-01-2006 13:07:25
Why doesnt everyone just flood his cell with messages. That way well run up his phone bill haha
ilanbg
26-01-2006 13:10:02
lol, that's a great idea. And it's not illegal, so we could still get our money back, or at the very least persecute him.
I've always been of the principle that an eye for an eye isn't enough when it comes to retribution.
Let's go for it.
bballp6699
26-01-2006 13:11:43
We don't have his cell phone, we have jerritos and for all we know, he's just another kid that finch had to his bidding for him with his paypal account.
double0civicsi
26-01-2006 13:12:22
[quote296a47e9db="bballp6699"]Fuck, jeritto said he only knows him by his screen name. I don't know if I buy it though. I asked if Gian-etc- was his name and he said he thinks so.[/quote296a47e9db]
Thats a lie. He is on his myspace page and said on a4f that he has known him for years.
theysayjump
26-01-2006 13:31:34
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xztiger
26-01-2006 13:32:39
nice
jerrito1
26-01-2006 13:34:29
[quote5cc5025a1d="Airkat"]Why doesnt everyone just flood his cell with messages. That way well run up his phone bill haha[/quote5cc5025a1d]
Fuck you
Why am I being singled out in this. I have no idea whats going on, and I've been recieveing numerous messages. Its really annoying. And now you guys got my eBay account suspended as well.
As far as I know dudelovesfinch is legit. Hes just having a problem with the GCs, so hes the same way.
Again, I am in no way involved in whats been going on in any way
He just screwed up by Half.com and his cousin. He didnt mean for any of this to happen to you guys. None of the GCs were stolen or illegal. I will make a post tonight on here and A4F explaining whats goin on.
And again...STOP FUCKING MESSAGING ME!
ilanbg
26-01-2006 13:35:16
Are those targets? I'll launch the missiles.
double0civicsi
26-01-2006 13:35:49
[quotebe4d8c2a56="jerrito1"][quotebe4d8c2a56="Airkat"]Why doesnt everyone just flood his cell with messages. That way well run up his phone bill haha[/quotebe4d8c2a56]
Fuck you
Why am I being singled out in this. I have no idea whats going on, and I've been recieveing numerous messages. Its really annoying. And now you guys got my eBay account suspended as well.
As far as I know dudelovesfinch is legit. Hes just having a problem with the GCs, so hes the same way.
Again, I am in no way involved in whats been going on in any way
He just screwed up by Half.com and his cousin. He didnt mean for any of this to happen to you guys. None of the GCs were stolen or illegal. I will make a post tonight on here and A4F explaining whats goin on.
And again...STOP FUCKING MESSAGING ME![/quotebe4d8c2a56]
so why is he mia?
hehehhehe
26-01-2006 13:39:10
[quoted3c4a2ae93="jerrito1"][quoted3c4a2ae93="Airkat"]Why doesnt everyone just flood his cell with messages. That way well run up his phone bill haha[/quoted3c4a2ae93]
Fuck you
Why am I being singled out in this. I have no idea whats going on, and I've been recieveing numerous messages. Its really annoying. And now you guys got my eBay account suspended as well.
As far as I know dudelovesfinch is legit. Hes just having a problem with the GCs, so hes the same way.
Again, I am in no way involved in whats been going on in any way
He just screwed up by Half.com and his cousin. He didnt mean for any of this to happen to you guys. None of the GCs were stolen or illegal. I will make a post tonight on here and A4F explaining whats goin on.
And again...STOP FUCKING MESSAGING ME![/quoted3c4a2ae93]
Just make sure he knows that if he tries to keep our money he will face a lot of heat, not just from us but from law enforcement. And that's no empty threat. All he needs to do is reimburse us, and we know he's got it in his amazon account. Send the amount owed to us in ipods for all i care.
theysayjump
26-01-2006 13:41:13
[quoted430bfe553][bd430bfe553]I have no idea whats going on,[/bd430bfe553][/colord430bfe553][/quoted430bfe553]
[quoted430bfe553][bd430bfe553]As far as I know dudelovesfinch is legit.[/colord430bfe553][/bd430bfe553] [/quoted430bfe553]
[quoted430bfe553][bd430bfe553]I am in no way involved in whats been going on in any way[/colord430bfe553][/bd430bfe553][/quoted430bfe553]
[quoted430bfe553][bd430bfe553]He didnt mean for any of this to happen to you guys.[/bd430bfe553][/colord430bfe553][/quoted430bfe553]
[quoted430bfe553][bd430bfe553]None of the GCs were stolen or illegal.[/bd430bfe553][/colord430bfe553] [/quoted430bfe553]
[quoted430bfe553][bd430bfe553]I will make a post tonight on here and A4F explaining whats goin on.[/bd430bfe553][/colord430bfe553][/quoted430bfe553]
You don't know what's going and as far as you know he's legit.
You're not involved in any way, but yet you know he didn't mean for this to happen. You also know they weren't stolen or illegal.
Not only that, but you're going to make a post tonight on both forums about what's going on, but yet you're not involved in any way?
emoney
26-01-2006 13:41:45
[quotead67a14956="jerrito1"][quotead67a14956="Airkat"]Why doesnt everyone just flood his cell with messages. That way well run up his phone bill haha[/quotead67a14956]
[bad67a14956]He just screwed up by Half.com and his cousin. He didnt mean for any of this to happen to you guys. None of the GCs were stolen or illegal.[/bad67a14956] I will make a post tonight on here and A4F explaining whats goin on.
And again...STOP FUCKING MESSAGING ME![/quotead67a14956]
Can you give us a hint at what was going on with his cousin and him? Their methods and how they got caught.
shamash
26-01-2006 13:42:41
i vote for the spam
shamash
26-01-2006 13:44:23
just sent 50-100ish messages from 2 screename before i was blocked
theysayjump
26-01-2006 13:45:09
[quotea6d16baaa3="shamash"]just sent 50-100ish messages from 2 screename before i was blocked[/quotea6d16baaa3]
I don't think that is going to help get anything out of him.
shamash
26-01-2006 13:47:04
Yeah (
But once when I pissed someone off, they mailbombed my cellphone number @vtext.com
Verizon deleted all the charges.
LucaBella
26-01-2006 13:47:52
[quote071b4d7278="Admin"]I realize that this is real money and that a lot of you are upset, but I can't help but laugh really hard at this.
Greed is a really disgusting thing. Maybe my least favorite part of human nature. This seems just like 12DP to me. Clearly, the business model makes no logical sense, but people will try to find reasons why its legit. It's the same here. Why would half.com eat that much money? I could understand smaller-value ones given away at, for example, trade shows, in order to generate interest. But thousands upon thousands of dollars simply given away? Jesus christ, guys, think of the golden fucking rule. If this "deal" didn't scream 'too good to be true', I don't know what does. I'd feel sorry for you all but it seems to me like you're victims of your own greed. Would you respond to a classified ad selling an expensive car for half its bluebook? I wouldn't; it's probably stolen, salvaged title, or a money laundering scam. How is this different?[/quote071b4d7278]
well this is one of the crappiest replies ever. Keep laughing man, it'll come back to you.
I mean, we live in the freebie world, where 30 dollars in offers becomes a 300 dollar ipod, a 600 dollar mini mac, or a 1k ibook computer. Great deals happen all the time, and your reply is gross.
If a site owner closed up shop with all of your money, you'd be furious, and some pointless relative chiding you for doing freebies in the first place would piss you off.
So don't do it to us.
Bildo818
26-01-2006 13:49:54
You all got owned...that sucks----How much money does everyone think he "banked" after selling all those GC's?
GiftMonsterKyle
26-01-2006 13:50:46
From what I've read I've come to the conclusion that he did this out of revenge from his Stormpay scammer. Seems like all of the trouble started from there. He must have used all of the giftcards or had them cancelled (as previously mentioned).
I'm pretty sure it doesn't have to do with how he was acquiring the cards, legal or not, because I don't think he would dissappear if that was the case. If it does have to do with his fraudulent acquiring of the cards, it would also have to be a pretty big coincidence to happen immediately in the hours following his being scammed.
Sorry if I'm being captain obvious here, just giving some input.
LucaBella
26-01-2006 13:50:54
I seriously think he must have gotten more than 20K in amazon gift cards, probably closer to 30K.
jerrito1
26-01-2006 13:52:17
[quoteadf7ac0cb9="theysayjump"][quoteadf7ac0cb9][badf7ac0cb9]I have no idea whats going on,[/badf7ac0cb9][/coloradf7ac0cb9][/quoteadf7ac0cb9]
[quoteadf7ac0cb9][badf7ac0cb9]As far as I know dudelovesfinch is legit.[/coloradf7ac0cb9][/badf7ac0cb9] [/quoteadf7ac0cb9]
[quoteadf7ac0cb9][badf7ac0cb9]I am in no way involved in whats been going on in any way[/coloradf7ac0cb9][/badf7ac0cb9][/quoteadf7ac0cb9]
[quoteadf7ac0cb9][badf7ac0cb9]He didnt mean for any of this to happen to you guys.[/badf7ac0cb9][/coloradf7ac0cb9][/quoteadf7ac0cb9]
[quoteadf7ac0cb9][badf7ac0cb9]None of the GCs were stolen or illegal.[/badf7ac0cb9][/coloradf7ac0cb9] [/quoteadf7ac0cb9]
[quoteadf7ac0cb9][badf7ac0cb9]I will make a post tonight on here and A4F explaining whats goin on.[/badf7ac0cb9][/coloradf7ac0cb9][/quoteadf7ac0cb9]
You don't know what's going and as far as you know he's legit.
You're not involved in any way, but yet you know he didn't mean for this to happen. You also know they weren't stolen or illegal.
Not only that, but you're going to make a post tonight on both forums about what's going on, but yet you're not involved in any way?[/quoteadf7ac0cb9]
Because I've been talking to him ever since I started recieving all these messages. Hes having problems right now, his comp is not working. But he is trying is best to figure all this out and make sure that all this gets fixed as soon as possible
LucaBella
26-01-2006 13:54:42
Jerrito, Finch has like 6 or 7 computers. So don't give us that "his computer's broken" bullshit.
jerrito1
26-01-2006 13:56:29
[quote37d78e8700="LucaBella"]Jerrito, Finch has like 6 or 7 computers. So don't give us that "his computer's broken" bullshit.[/quote37d78e8700]
I'm not giving you any bullshit, I'm just giving you what I'm being told.
Also hes in college right now, so hes been busy. But I promise you hes trying his best to fix and sort this all out
theysayjump
26-01-2006 13:56:39
Yeah he bought a PC from Peinecone and he just received a Laptop from Freepay.
LucaBella
26-01-2006 13:57:47
And he bragged about buying a $2500 Powerbook.
theysayjump
26-01-2006 13:58:56
Not to mention the computer he had before he received any of the others.
theman2005
26-01-2006 14:01:11
so... what the heck is going on now??? this is getting ridiculous.....
LucaBella
26-01-2006 14:01:12
so now we add numerous fake excuses to the pile... and we really have a very ugly portrait of Finch. But I think he's scared shitless, I think he's also 16 years old, and I think he's going to find out about some hot ass sex in jail.
Hope it was worth it, Finchy!
jerrito1
26-01-2006 14:01:23
[quote08dac68040="theysayjump"]Not to mention the computer he had before he received any of the others.[/quote08dac68040]
Well apparently he sold it, so now hes gotta get his main PC sent in to get repaired
Bildo818
26-01-2006 14:02:58
"I seriously think he must have gotten more than 20K in amazon gift cards, probably closer to 30K"
Ummm....anyone think about calling the IRS?
LucaBella
26-01-2006 14:03:34
jerrito.. thats crap.
tell him to stop making excuses and get to the refunds. Everything will be easier on him if he settles his debt to us.
double0civicsi
26-01-2006 14:05:15
[quote1966095929="jerrito1"][quote1966095929="theysayjump"]Not to mention the computer he had before he received any of the others.[/quote1966095929]
Well apparently he sold it, so now hes gotta get his main PC sent in to get repaired[/quote1966095929]
Are you talking to him on the phone?
jerrito1
26-01-2006 14:09:08
[quote7eab9bece2="double0civicsi"][quote7eab9bece2="jerrito1"][quote7eab9bece2="theysayjump"]Not to mention the computer he had before he received any of the others.[/quote7eab9bece2]
Well apparently he sold it, so now hes gotta get his main PC sent in to get repaired[/quote7eab9bece2]
Are you talking to him on the phone?[/quote7eab9bece2]
No, over email and hes replying from his phone
hyperion479
26-01-2006 14:11:11
Tell him to go to his "aunt's" or "gf's" house to use a computer. Or the library. Not like computers with internet connections are hard to find.
Oh and one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet. The FCC might like to know about internet fraud, eh?
emoney
26-01-2006 14:11:41
[quote678171e655="jerrito1"][quote678171e655="theysayjump"]Not to mention the computer he had before he received any of the others.[/quote678171e655]
Well apparently he sold it, so now hes gotta get his main PC sent in to get repaired[/quote678171e655]
lol, so all of the codes stop working at the exact same time that his computer broke, and his other machines mysteriously vanished. Tell him thats bs and ask for another excuse.
tampadan
26-01-2006 14:12:06
[quote06a3698cd8="jerrito1"]
No, over email and hes replying from his phone[/quote06a3698cd8]
Just telll everyone he's moving across the country. That excuse seems to work pretty well for a few weeks.
GiftMonsterKyle
26-01-2006 14:13:22
He did say he sold his laptop in the brag bag...but he still would have two computers left.
Blink182=Gone
26-01-2006 14:15:29
LucaBella
26-01-2006 14:16:32
He sold that Vaio yeah, but he has a brand new Powerbook, and the computer the guy sent him, and god knows what else he bought with the 10K in amazon gift certs he's already spent....
Brutus
26-01-2006 14:18:31
[quoted070534e48="hyperion479"]Oh and one thing that hasn't been mentioned yet. The FCC might like to know about internet fraud, eh?[/quoted070534e48]
Wire Fraud Each instance is a seperate offense.
Larceny
Grand Larceny
Who knows what else.
This is one of the reasons that I am optimistic about this. If it wasn't an accident of some sort that is a lot of time to do.
hyperion479
26-01-2006 14:20:18
Yeah, if nothing else it'd serve as a good example for what can happen when you try to scam people. It'd almost be worth the money...although it certainly wouldn't be worth the couple grand some of these guys are out.
idrinklisterine
26-01-2006 14:22:59
[quote0d64414c90="double0civicsi"][quote0d64414c90="jerrito1"][quote0d64414c90="theysayjump"]Not to mention the computer he had before he received any of the others.[/quote0d64414c90]
Well apparently he sold it, so now hes gotta get his main PC sent in to get repaired[/quote0d64414c90]
Are you talking to him on the phone?[/quote0d64414c90]
If he has no computer then why are people saying he's been active at a4f?
theysayjump
26-01-2006 14:24:42
[quotedeb2532446="idrinklisterine"][quotedeb2532446="double0civicsi"][quotedeb2532446="jerrito1"][quotedeb2532446="theysayjump"]Not to mention the computer he had before he received any of the others.[/quotedeb2532446]
Well apparently he sold it, so now hes gotta get his main PC sent in to get repaired[/quotedeb2532446]
Are you talking to him on the phone?[/quotedeb2532446]
If he has no computer then why are people saying he's been active at a4f?[/quotedeb2532446]
He hasn't. He was last active on Tuesday night. He was last on FiPG on Tuesday at.......905pm.
emoney
26-01-2006 14:25:48
[quote749352eb59="double0civicsi"]
If he has no computer then why are people saying he's been active at a4f?[/quote749352eb59]
He hasn't been on A4F since 24th January 2006 - 0842 PM
-pretty much the exact time I found out the codes just went invalid.
LucaBella
26-01-2006 14:26:03
Finch, aka AthoughtLost593 is online right now.
kevxross
26-01-2006 14:26:51
Either DLF is shitting himself right now, realizing how badly he fucked up, or he's legit. There are no other options.
kdollar
26-01-2006 14:28:31
im sorry but why would he only talk to jerrito, he cant make one simple post or send someone an email through his phone.
SHITBREAK is going DOWN!!
i say jerrito goes with him, sorry man even ur mom told u if u hang out with scammers, your gonna be treated like one.
GiftMonsterKyle
26-01-2006 14:29:47
It's obvious that nesquik was laundering secretly for Finch last night.
http//www.myspace.com/athoughtlost593
Look at his first comment. It's by nesquik from January 1st, so they've obviously been associated for a long time. Nesquik kept getting more and more last night, and was continuing to sell them for half price.
kevxross
26-01-2006 14:30:26
[quote78c578bd18="LucaBella"]Finch, aka AthoughtLost593 is online right now.[/quote78c578bd18]
Is that him? If so he's been on for an hour and 20 mins. Not responding (surprise, surprise), but I'm not blocked yet.
Admin
26-01-2006 14:33:44
[quotebfb8deef5a="LucaBella"]
well this is one of the crappiest replies ever. Keep laughing man, it'll come back to you.
I mean, we live in the freebie world, where 30 dollars in offers becomes a 300 dollar iPod, a 600 dollar mini mac, or a 1k ibook computer. Great deals happen all the time, and your reply is gross.
If a site owner closed up shop with all of your money, you'd be furious, and some pointless relative chiding you for doing freebies in the first place would piss you off.
So don't do it to us.[/quotebfb8deef5a]
Just so we're clear - you're one of my favorite posters on FiPG, hand down.
In the 'freebie world', we have established ways that freebie sites make money/break even, so that even though the gifts are "deeply discounted" by the time they get to you, SOMEBODY paid full (or near full) price for them initially. Even when we're talking about DIYs - they have an established business model and they make tons of money on non-finishers.
While I appreciate that you feel comfortable comparing me to a relative, I don't think your similie extends very far. For one, I've only done one smaller site (orderit4free) and it was for a low-value gift, and even then I considered it a gamble. I was fully prepared to lose all my money/refs and I would have just sucked it up. If someone (relative or not) chided me for losing the time/money, I'd say, "gee, friend, you're right. I sure got taken this time! On the other hand, I've been fortunate enough to get some dozens of thousands of dollars worth of gifts/donations because of the freebie scene, and I knew the risks when I started."
Have I ever made a post saying that "you guys got what was coming to you" when a network/site ran with your money? I think you'll be hard pressed to find it. More likely, you'll find me and the staff here helping people track down those responsible. Why? Because it is reasonable, in my opinion, to expect a site owner to at least make some efforts to deliver on his promises.
On the other hand, logic dictates that there is NOTHING reasonable about someone GIVING AWAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, which is exactly what this "deal" amounted to. So, in short, no. Nobody who got "taken" will get any sympathy from me. If you were greedy enough to jump on a deal like this despite the dozens of blatant red flags, you do indeed deserve it.
LucaBella
26-01-2006 14:39:26
I can't argue with any of what you've written, but just don't say you're laughing at us.. it's more than I can take...
hyperion479
26-01-2006 14:41:21
Your argument fails because someone could still be ultimately paying near the full price of the GCs. In this situation it would be Ebay/Half.com promoting (advertising like those who post offers on Freepay) the use of their sites.
Blink182=Gone
26-01-2006 14:47:02
[bd8f245bb5c]Admin, after reading your post, I had the idea
Possibly you could create a voting module that would allow us to vote for posts in the SALE forum that we think are either legit or not legit, to in essence, warn fellow FIPG'ers. I'm thinking it would be similiar to Fatwallet's post rating module. ...Just a small idea on how to possibly flag deals like this in the future.[/bd8f245bb5c] Tell me what u think.
...although, I must say, last night during all this, I bought $300 of these certs and used 'em up fast to resell some 360 games. 8)
ajrock2000
26-01-2006 14:49:53
I see no need for a voting module, instead people could just use some common sense. wink
GiftMonsterKyle
26-01-2006 14:53:24
[quote7d309882af="Blink182=Gone"][b7d309882af]Admin, after reading your post, I had the idea
Possibly you could create a voting module that would allow us to vote for posts in the SALE forum that we think are either legit or not legit, to in essence, warn fellow FIPG'ers. I'm thinking it would be similiar to Fatwallet's post rating module. ...Just a small idea on how to possibly flag deals like this in the future.[/b7d309882af] Tell me what u think.
...although, I must say, last night during all this, I bought $300 of these certs and used 'em up fast to resell some 360 games. 8)[/quote7d309882af]
hah same here, got $600 last night and bought an xbox 360 and some books/dvds fast.
Blink182=Gone
26-01-2006 14:53:44
[quoteb54dc45442="ajrock2000"]I see no need for a voting module, instead people could just use some common sense. wink[/quoteb54dc45442]
u win.
ajrock2000
26-01-2006 14:55:38
I was seriously thinking about doing this, but procrastination actually paid off this time. I would have bought a $50-$200 gc or something in that range. I can't imagine giving someone $2000 that I don't even know...
ilanbg
26-01-2006 14:59:00
[quote09a5e19f0a="ajrock2000"]I was seriously thinking about doing this, but procrastination actually paid off this time. I would have bought a $50-$200 gc or something in that range. I can't imagine giving someone $2000 that I don't even know...[/quote09a5e19f0a]
Yep, same here.
But I'd have surely bought 1K worth if half.com sold iMacs. Thank god they don't, eh?
Crynos
26-01-2006 15:00:44
I dont think the certs were stolen, cause he sold many thousands without half catching on. I also dont think he bought them, because a college student couldnt afford to pay that much to set up a scam.
In conclusion, i dunno wtf happened (
agroman
26-01-2006 15:13:38
[quote18e5f68f0a="Crynos"]I dont think the certs were stolen, cause he sold many thousands without half catching on. I also dont think he bought them, because a college student couldnt afford to pay that much to set up a scam.
In conclusion, i dunno wtf happened ([/quote18e5f68f0a]
Perhaps he pooled them?
For example, he SAYS he has tons of Half.com GC's, but instead only has one. As he sells them he buys more to distribute. Initially he'd have to eat a few of them, but as more and more people begin to buy them from him he eventually has more $$ than he started with and receipts of the codes that he sold. Before he bails he begins to sell the same codes to people...
Perhaps you all can elect someone trustworthy (tsj?) to send all your codes to, to verify that you all didn't receive the same codes. That might explain why some people's are working, and others aren't.(.. and, perhaps, why Half.com hasn't really provided a good explanation) shrug
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kevxross
26-01-2006 15:19:41
^Good guess, but I'm pretty sure that's not the case. It doesn't say "This certificate has already been used." It says "This certificate has been deactivated."
(Those aren't the exact words because I'm too lazy to get them, but the messages are different.)
Edit Crap. My own post made me curious, so I [b916fc477d1]did[/b916fc477d1] go look. The bum codes say
"The code that you have entered is invalid.[/color916fc477d1]"
whereas spent codes say
"The Gift Certificate that you have entered does not have any funds left.[/color916fc477d1]"
The reason I say "crap" is that I tried a couple codes that I had already spent and some gave me the invalid error. Others gave me the no funds error. I just hope the ones I've [b916fc477d1]spent[/b916fc477d1] that now say "invalid" don't come back to bite me in the ass.
This situation sucks ?
UniPrize Media
26-01-2006 15:24:14
[quote84da823868="kdollar"]this is strayed off the topic a bit, but i think this is just wastin time till someone finds dlf, but what did wood do?[/quote84da823868]
Wood knows something. Does anyone know why he got banned?
I know his little buddy is going to defend him...
LucaBella
26-01-2006 15:24:50
Every Amazon CSR I talk to sounds like they're slow. I explained the situation to the current CSR, and she was like "well you know you can buy amazon gift certs here at Amazon, you don't have to buy and then trade for them" she seems to think I bought gift certs for amazon.com to get gift certs for amazon.com
And she's american... no excuse for this.
Another seller refunded my (now shitty) gift certs so I'm down more than 1200 dollars...
she says there's nothing they can do, if its a scam we need to contact our local authorities, because I know the police here in High point, NC are gonna rush right down with the FBI in tow and find Finchy!
kevxross
26-01-2006 15:30:26
Ok I just tested more codes to see which error messages I get. I bought certs from Finch in 2 batches. The first batch I bought ($2500) all say they have no funds left, as if they're legit, they're just spent. The whole second batch ($3600) say invalid (whether I spent them or not), as if Half.com terminated them. This doesn't reveal too much, except that timing was an issue here. Either Finch cancelled all codes back to a certain date, or Half caught onto him at this point and cancelled all the codes from that point on. I dunno.
I ordered the first batch on 1/4 and the second batch on 1/6.
jack001
26-01-2006 15:33:48
hmm kevross, i just tested a spread of the codes he sent me, they all seem to say the code is invalid... I did get them after you too, so maybe your right
also i seem to remember that they used to say the code is invalid OR there are no funds remaining on the code
Crynos
26-01-2006 15:56:12
[quote5d7c96d907="bballp6699"]Well, no more IMs/PMs for me...
This is our beloved finch...
http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showuser=3660
http//www.myspace.com/athoughtlost593
http//www.google.com/search?q=athoughtlost593++&sourceid=mozilla-search&start=0&start=0&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozillaen-USofficial
His band must suck, because I can't bring up shit about them.[/quote5d7c96d907]Are you absolutely sure thats him?
bravosfan87
26-01-2006 16:01:17
[quote11a3b8fa6c="flip"]It's obvious that nesquik was laundering secretly for Finch last night.
http//www.myspace.com/athoughtlost593
Look at his first comment. It's by nesquik from January 1st, so they've obviously been associated for a long time. Nesquik kept getting more and more last night, and was continuing to sell them for half price.[/quote11a3b8fa6c]
He turned off his messages lol, For his sake I hope he's telling the truth cause if not he's going to burn.
phunkstar
26-01-2006 16:02:33
You guys should redirect some of your anger towards the person that scammed Finch. It's very likely had he not been scammed out of $4k all your codes would still work...
email==vitaliyg2@yahoo.comvitaliyg2@yahoo.com=vitaliyg2@yahoo.comvitaliyg2@yahoo.com/email is the email Finch posted.
Crynos
26-01-2006 16:03:06
Athoughtlost responded to me on aim, i really didnt think he was going to so i just kindve winged it. At the end i just played along.
MediSauron (65207 PM) hey
MediSauron (65252 PM) hey, sorry if that last one sent
MediSauron (65254 PM) my aim is buggy
athoughtlost593 (65340 PM) hello? whos this
athoughtlost593 returned at 65340 PM.
MediSauron (65403 PM) someone you owe some money, please dont make me go to the authorities, its not worth it
athoughtlost593 (65418 PM) huh? what are you talking about who are you?
MediSauron (65432 PM) crynos from FIPG, and youre dudelovesfinch
athoughtlost593 (65440 PM) whos dudelovesfinch?
MediSauron (65450 PM) dont do this...
MediSauron (65519 PM) you stole alot of money, you cant just walk
athoughtlost593 (65545 PM) excuse me,but i dont know what your talking about
MediSauron (65601 PM) ok, do you know gianfranco yauri?
athoughtlost593 (65608 PM) no,my name is
athoughtlost593 (65611 PM) josh
MediSauron (65638 PM) and youve never spoken to a gianfranco yauri? Or dudelovesfinch? Never even heard of them?
athoughtlost593 (65650 PM) no,i have no clue who are you talking about?
athoughtlost593 (65653 PM) what is this?
MediSauron (65701 PM) arent you a member at anything4free
athoughtlost593 (65711 PM) used too
athoughtlost593 (65714 PM) dont go there anymore
athoughtlost593 (65718 PM) i dont do free sites,anymore
MediSauron (65739 PM) why does everyone think youre dudelovesfinch?
athoughtlost593 (65748 PM) whos dudelovesfinch pal?
athoughtlost593 (65754 PM) explain this to me
athoughtlost593 (65756 PM) please?
MediSauron (65801 PM) a guy whole stole over 10k in amazon certs and money
athoughtlost593 (65809 PM) wow
athoughtlost593 (65810 PM) how?
MediSauron (65849 PM) by selling half.com gc's
MediSauron (65856 PM) pretty interesting
athoughtlost593 (65902 PM) ohhhh
athoughtlost593 (65906 PM) im not a big ebay fan
MediSauron (65925 PM) so you live down in florida eh?
athoughtlost593 (65936 PM) miami, fl
athoughtlost593 (65944 PM) yeah you live there too?
MediSauron (65956 PM) funny, DLF lives there also, and his title is mexican rock
athoughtlost593 (70013 PM) it is,well theres many mexicans in every state
athoughtlost593 (70014 PM) you know
athoughtlost593 (70015 PM) P
athoughtlost593 (70027 PM) i dont see whats the point though?
athoughtlost593 (70028 PM) can i see
athoughtlost593 (70031 PM) how he scammed people
athoughtlost593 (70032 PM) ?
MediSauron (70044 PM) http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=31457
MediSauron (70048 PM) bit long
athoughtlost593 (70057 PM) wow
athoughtlost593 (70058 PM) it is
athoughtlost593 (70104 PM) can you sum it up for me?
MediSauron (70202 PM) he sold thousands of dollars in half.com certs, which worked, then suddenly they all became invalid and he kept the money (over 10k)
athoughtlost593 (70216 PM) kept 10k where?
athoughtlost593 (70218 PM) bank?
MediSauron (70244 PM) amazon.com
athoughtlost593 (70337 PM) Bummer,hope you guys get it resolved i gotta go pickup my friend from the mall later
double0civicsi
26-01-2006 16:06:19
I traded with athoughtlost on a4f and paypal payment went to Gian Yauri.
theysayjump
26-01-2006 16:08:13
[quote2d0f0d7f74="double0civicsi"]I traded with athoughtlost on a4f and paypal payment went to Gian Yauri.[/quote2d0f0d7f74]
Busted.
/me PM's A4F Mods for athoughtlosts IP.
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 16:11:47
you think this is real http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42511
btw i live in miami....
LucaBella
26-01-2006 16:15:30
[quotea46130e55c="double0civicsi"]I traded with athoughtlost on a4f and paypal payment went to Gian Yauri.[/quotea46130e55c]
and there we have it....
You guys can talk to him til he's blue in the face, he is unrepentant and a complete and total liar. Time to call the feds and put the fear of god in him.
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 16:18:52
This is pretty serious! How Much do you estimate he got? 5k?
JKirk
26-01-2006 16:19:39
Atlosthought's IP resolves to a Miami ISP. Looks like we got our man.
jack001
26-01-2006 16:20:27
athoughtlost593 myspace profile has been temporarily disabled for special maintenance....I dont know if this is normal because i dont use myspace at all, but it seems kinda fishy...
Crynos
26-01-2006 16:21:17
[quoteca48d1c0da="Broken Ego"]This is pretty serious! How Much do you estimate he got? 5k?[/quoteca48d1c0da]over $10k i think
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 16:22:32
DAMNIT! Get his address from a site owner!
bravosfan87
26-01-2006 16:23:34
He's so done.
kevxross
26-01-2006 16:24:32
[quote1e1bf2d0b8="Broken Ego"]DAMNIT! Get his address from a site owner![/quote1e1bf2d0b8]
We're beyond that, we have several address on him. We just need to figure out exactly which one is his, but it's not quite time to take action [b1e1bf2d0b8]yet[/b1e1bf2d0b8]. It's been less than 24hrs, we just gotta get everything straight before we go to the next step (if we have to). Time, young grasshopper, just a little time.
theysayjump
26-01-2006 16:24:58
Thanks to JKirk above and at A4F for athoughtlost953s IP.
When search on FiPG for athoughtlost953's IP
[quote8b614d03a6]Username E-mail address Joined Posts Last Visit Account Status[/quote8b614d03a6]
[quote8b614d03a6]drayster817 email==drayster817@netscape.netdrayster817@netscape.net=drayster817@netscape.netdrayster817@netscape.net/email Mon Nov 01, 2004 102 am 1 Mon Nov 01, 2004 104 am Manage Permissions Banned Enabled[/quote8b614d03a6]
[quote8b614d03a6][b8b614d03a6]dudelovesFinch1035 email==dudelovesfinch1035@gmail.comdudelovesfinch1035@gmail.com=dudelovesfinch1035@gmail.comdudelovesfinch1035@gmail.com/email Tue Aug 30, 2005 613 pm 1233 Tue Jan 24, 2006 905 pm Manage Permissions Not Banned Enabled[/color8b614d03a6][/b8b614d03a6][/quote8b614d03a6]
damac
26-01-2006 16:25:45
my mom paid the same person back in september, the only trade i ever made with finch on anything4free. it was for 75 and her last flatscreens4free offer of doom.
email==finchrocksl33t@yahoo.comfinchrocksl33t@yahoo.com=finchrocksl33t@yahoo.comfinchrocksl33t@yahoo.com/email-Gian Yauri
Crynos
26-01-2006 16:25:52
So he openly lied, theres some proof hes not coming back (
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 16:32:46
maybe he will come back..
EARLY APRIL FOOLS!
kmg9000
26-01-2006 16:36:16
On my site there is an athoughtlost593. His name is josh and he is from Sacramento. So he may be telling the truth in that AIM convo.
Not sure if that helps any but I thought it wouldnt hurt to point that out.
Crynos
26-01-2006 16:39:12
[quote1a9fd4a210="kmg9000"]On my site there is an athoughtlost593. His name is josh and he is from Sacramento. So he may be telling the truth in that AIM convo.
Not sure if that helps any but I thought it wouldnt hurt to point that out.[/quote1a9fd4a210]However he also says hes from Miami, FL. Thats wierd
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 16:39:33
what about everything else. In the convo it even said (im from miami)
IM IN MIAMI ALSO... MAYBE I CAN HELP
Crynos
26-01-2006 16:40:21
[quoteaad87bf22a="Broken Ego"]what about everything else. In the convo it even said (im from miami)
IM IN MIAMI ALSO... MAYBE I CAN HELP[/quoteaad87bf22a]Are you big? D
double0civicsi
26-01-2006 16:43:00
[quote48c3275503="kmg9000"]On my site there is an athoughtlost593. His name is josh and he is from Sacramento. So he may be telling the truth in that AIM convo.
Not sure if that helps any but I thought it wouldnt hurt to point that out.[/quote48c3275503]
when you search Gio Yauri on myspace you come up with athoughtlost's page which says hes in Florida.
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 16:43:29
[quote7cf421d389="Crynos"][quote7cf421d389="Broken Ego"]what about everything else. In the convo it even said (im from miami)
IM IN MIAMI ALSO... MAYBE I CAN HELP[/quote7cf421d389]Are you big? D[/quote7cf421d389]
8)
cyberpunk243
26-01-2006 16:45:08
You guys are like detectives. I feel bad for that guy (not really) he is going to get what's coming to him. Sucks to be him. Hope you guys get your stuff back. Best of luck! I'm just an observer.
JKirk
26-01-2006 16:56:18
We have already established that AtLostThought is either DLF himself or one of his friends. Just like Frank posted above, his IP resolves to Miami, FL. Also the member, Jerrito1, has an IP that resolves to Miami, FL and has supposedly been talking to DLF through email via cell phone. You can check out the thread here
http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42511&hl=
I apologize for the cross linking but desperate calls call for desperate measures and moderators feel free to remove it if you'd like. Also something to notice in that topic, once DoubleCivics and I found out he was from Miami, he only browsed a few times and never did post..
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 16:59:59
If his computer is down how is his aim on? shock
Crynos
26-01-2006 17:00:57
[quote4bdc982546="Broken Ego"]If his computer is down how is his aim on? shock[/quote4bdc982546]I wonder ?
Broken Ego
26-01-2006 17:04:45
can you tell us jerrito?
theysayjump
26-01-2006 17:11:39
[quote330d28705e="JKirk"]We have already established that AtLostThought is either DLF himself or one of his friends. Just like Frank posted above, his IP resolves to Miami, FL. Also the member, Jerrito1, has an IP that resolves to Miami, FL and has supposedly been talking to DLF through email via cell phone. You can check out the thread here
http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42511&hl=
I apologize for the cross linking but desperate calls call for desperate measures and moderators feel free to remove it if you'd like. Also something to notice in that topic, once DoubleCivics and I found out he was from Miami, he only browsed a few times and never did post..[/quote330d28705e]
Cross-linking isn't against the rules here so you're fine to post any links you want (unless it's a ref link or a link to a conga wink ).
mrwzk
26-01-2006 18:05:57
whats fishy to me is the fact that dude told me he didnt have paypal than the other day
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=31345
he is accepting paypal all of a sudden
i was about to buy one from him too. anyone got a 40$ one laying around i can pay u in either amazon Gc or paypal iw ant to buy something from there
kevxross
26-01-2006 18:09:30
[quote13d68d6122="mrwzk"]whats fishy to me is the fact that dude told me he didnt have paypal than the other day
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=31345
he is accepting paypal all of a sudden
i was about to buy one from him too. anyone got a 40$ one laying around i can pay u in either amazon Gc or paypal iw ant to buy something from there[/quote13d68d6122]
... You deserve to get sold a Half.com cert from someone in this thread just for asking that question in this thread.
Th3Great1
26-01-2006 18:10:12
hmm no wonder he had a limited time offer going on...
JKirk
26-01-2006 18:12:07
[b2ac479d6e6]If you lost money from DLF , go here
http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=42535&hl=[/b2ac479d6e6]
hyperion479
26-01-2006 18:17:24
If you need messages relayed to the thread at A4F let me know )
Crynos
26-01-2006 18:19:55
IF anyone wants to contact half directly their number is listed here http//sastools.com/b2/post/79394000
Note, i havent called yet so not guarenteeing its correct
bigchan2k
26-01-2006 18:20:09
I'm not a member of A4F, so please relay for me
I lost a little over $1200 in Half GCs. Thats about $550 in Amazon GCs.
kevxross
26-01-2006 18:20:22
I don't feel like registering over there, so you can relay this I sent him $2500 Amazon. However, I spent all but $200 of the Half.com GCs I got from him, so I'm only out $200 as of now...
JKirk
26-01-2006 18:40:09
I relayed both those messages. Anyone else?
dudeextrem2000
26-01-2006 21:09:58
Just a thought what are the chances of the buyers being sued...
bballp6699
26-01-2006 21:48:32
[quote6c11e3cb5a="Admin"]
Just so we're clear - you're one of my favorite posters on FiPG, hand down.
In the 'freebie world', we have established ways that freebie sites make money/break even, so that even though the gifts are "deeply discounted" by the time they get to you, SOMEBODY paid full (or near full) price for them initially. Even when we're talking about DIYs - they have an established business model and they make tons of money on non-finishers.
While I appreciate that you feel comfortable comparing me to a relative, I don't think your similie extends very far. For one, I've only done one smaller site (orderit4free) and it was for a low-value gift, and even then I considered it a gamble. I was fully prepared to lose all my money/refs and I would have just sucked it up. If someone (relative or not) chided me for losing the time/money, I'd say, "gee, friend, you're right. I sure got taken this time! On the other hand, I've been fortunate enough to get some dozens of thousands of dollars worth of gifts/donations because of the freebie scene, and I knew the risks when I started."
Have I ever made a post saying that "you guys got what was coming to you" when a network/site ran with your money? I think you'll be hard pressed to find it. More likely, you'll find me and the staff here helping people track down those responsible. Why? Because it is reasonable, in my opinion, to expect a site owner to at least make some efforts to deliver on his promises.
On the other hand, logic dictates that there is NOTHING reasonable about someone GIVING AWAY THOUSANDS OF DOLLARS, which is exactly what this "deal" amounted to. So, in short, no. Nobody who got "taken" will get any sympathy from me. If you were greedy enough to jump on a deal like this despite the dozens of blatant red flags, you do indeed deserve it.[/quote6c11e3cb5a]
You laugh at us for "falling for this", yet I didn't see you closing his threads. I have seen several sites or methods like this that you have closed and called bogus. This time you did absolutley shit. That means one of two things...
1) You didn't give a shit about us getting scammed because "well find out soon". This I don't believe because that would be one shitfilled attitude and whether you deny it or not, you care about how the general pop views you here.
2) You weren't 100% sure yourself. Which is what I believe. You thought it was bullshit, but you had no idea and let us ride with it. We took a chance and went with an optimisitc view. Now all of a sudden you want to jump out and call us fools, but you weren't sure either.
agroman
26-01-2006 22:05:00
[quote05ef172eb8="bballp6699"]I have seen several sites or methods like this that you have closed and called bogus. This time you did absolutley shit. That means one of two things...[/quote05ef172eb8]
Do you really expect him or any of the other mods to be responsible for moderating each and every transaction that occurs on FIPG?
I certainly don't. I assume that ANY transaction I enter into here on FIPG has some risk, if not A LOT of risk (considering the number of bunk trades I've been screwed on).
Admin
26-01-2006 22:15:45
From day one, the buy/sell forum has been defined as pretty much a free-for-all. None of the existing mods wanted to spend the time or energy to mod it, so I tried to make the rules as loose as possible. So yes, when I saw him selling all of those GCs, I let it go. Zero complaints against him, probably close to a dozen people reporting that they worked and they purchased items... while I was sure then that whatever he was doing was shady, everyone involved was happy. I didn't know what his scheme was. I'd like to see any "sites or methods like this" that I closed. If you're talking about 12DP, the idea of "HYIPs" is old and literally has failure built into it. How was I to know that DLF would eat it like that? I let the sales go on. Members here have time and again proven themselves to be scam conscious and to think things through carefully before going through with them. Especially older members; who happen to comprise most of the 'scammed' group.
What I'm trying to say is, yes, I had a bad feeling about the thread, and I let it go because I had no definitive proof that what he was doing was wrong/illegal to the extent that it was. Honestly, I wasn't even following what he was doing that closely - if you'd asked me the value of all of the GCs he sold to date back before this all exploded, I probably would have said "about $4000".
As for #1, you are not in a position to say ANYONE has a 'shitfilled' attitude. You fucking invented it.
As for #2, you are correct. I wasn't 100% sure, but I was goddamn sure enough to not send [i8f423af1ed]thousands[/i8f423af1ed] of [i8f423af1ed]untraceable, un-charge-backable[/i8f423af1ed] funds to an internet stranger. Fuck, I think hard before I send that much to an eBay powerseller. And you know what? I never said anyone was a fool. I just think the intense greed fed by the so-called 'freebie lifestyle' got the best of a lot of people for whom I held respect, and that is upsetting and depressing to me.
And finally, I'd just like to point out that if I'd closed that thread and forbidden DLF from posting about that
a) people would have PM'd him and done the trades without fipg;
b) i'd have been called a nazi
i've always been a huge fan of self reliance and responsibility. every person here who got scammed is in a shit situation not because of fipg, not because of DLF, not because of any fucking reason except that they made a shitty judgement call given the information available. the fact that ugly ugly greed is what probably caused that just makes the whole thing sadder.
kdollar
27-01-2006 00:14:16
in no way should admin be even considered for bashing though, he has nothing to do with it, a lot of money is at stake, and we know what that does to tempers, if anything its best to calm down, and figure a way to get ur cash back. sure easy to say i didnt get scammed TRUE but i sympathize with ya'll too, i would be irate if i lost cash over some fuckn asshole, but admin let the sales forum run freely how it should be, everyone took it at their own risk.
bballp6699
27-01-2006 07:14:11
[quotecdd956e700="Admin"]
As for #1, you are not in a position to say ANYONE has a 'shitfilled' attitude. You fucking invented it.
[/quotecdd956e700]
First of all I didn't say you have a 'shitfilled' attitude. I said that if you didn't care about your members then you would, but that wasn't the case. You just had no idea, just like the rest of us.
You come into a thread where we are trying to put information together and figure out what's going on, and you start rubbing shit in about how we're all greedy. Thanks for the fucking concern.
I think you do an amazing job with the way you run this place as far as the technical part of it goes, but I also think you're a jackass sometimes just because you know people won't stand up for themselves.
I am in no way blaming you for this. That would be stupid of me to do, but why come here and try to make us look like idiots?
xztiger
27-01-2006 07:37:21
so far hes owned people around 25,000 or more in gift cards
I didn't lose any money to this guy, but man I wish I could help bring him down. I hate people who scam others out of their hardearned cash.
silentsteel420
29-01-2006 00:41:18
[quote301ab6dece="bballp6699"][quote301ab6dece="LucaBella"]ebay feedback. he changed his ebay name from athought lost to joseyauri864.[/quote301ab6dece]
Seems like he gets all his shit shipped to his aunts house. His account on ebay is linked to Hollywood Florida. Who is Jose Yauri I wonder... The only results I get are in New York.
Well, whoever posted his name earlier spelled his last name wrong. I might have found mommy on switch board... Anyone want to call? Actually, I'm heading to bed. Call tomorrow.[/quote301ab6dece]
i don't know if this was mentioned before (kinda tired after reading the first 8 pages with 6 left to go) but if you check his myspace, it says he is moving to new york... maybe.... he's there and that's his REAL name
hehehhehe
29-01-2006 01:15:22
[quote282e0a226b="silentsteel420"]
i don't know if this was mentioned before (kinda tired after reading the first 8 pages with 6 left to go) but if you check his myspace, it says he is moving to new york... maybe.... he's there and that's his REAL name[/quote282e0a226b]
He probably just added that. He is so clever... lol
Anyway, he doesn't seem to understand that it doesn't matter where he goes, or where he says he's going. All we're going to do is assist the feds and local police the best we can. I don't know why he'd rather bullshit us and ruin his life like this.
jordan90
04-02-2006 15:24:21
Got kind of lost in all of that. Anyone get any more info on Nesquik? He scammed me out of $200 worth of K-Swiss gc's.
Here's what Nesquik said in his last pm which I got three days ago "hey, it was working. sorry. i'll refund you the money soon. if you read my post in the scammer section, it explains it all. my paypal is limited and i cant send money, sorry. however, i will refund you when i fix it. sorry agian"
LucaBella
07-02-2006 00:46:51
well, this topic has stalled big time. Where are we now? Has anything been done?
I think Finch is going to get away with all of this.
missdee212
07-02-2006 01:35:19
[quote6fe1179407="fgr_admin"]lmfao, sorry guys I just think this is too funny.
Ummm where did you guys think he was getting $50,000.00 worth of half.com GC?
Legally?
If he was really getting these things so cheap why didn't he just buy 100 xbxox 360s and resell them himself. Would have made cash (money orders) instead of getting more GC that can only be spent on other items.
That never made cense to me. If he would have been asking for cash yea I could see it, but to get GC that he had to redeem for trinkets????? Why not just buy the trinkets in the first place?
Well good luck. Thats a lot of cash.[/quote6fe1179407]
I'm sorry but holy crap fgr_admin this is soo funny. I'm like dying laughing over here. i'm sorry, but it's funny.
mrwzk
07-02-2006 03:51:13
the reason he didnt do that was Half would of caught on to the fact he bought so much with giftcards if he spread them out like he did it took them longer to detect it
ummchacha
07-02-2006 06:05:30
I am sure he will get away with it as well. I have seen time and time again people getting scammed. The first thing people do is talk about all the authorities that are involved or who will be involved. It is easy to talk, but to act and follow through takes a lot of energy. I have yet to see anyone get legally nabbed for scamming. I sure hope I am wrong though.
Airkat
07-02-2006 09:40:43
I'd have to ditto this. If it goes beyond sitting @ your PC to write an angry email -- most people drop it. No one seems to want to take a stroll downtown, or pick up a phone.
hehehhehe
07-02-2006 10:02:17
[quote75f611df73="LucaBella"]well, this topic has stalled big time. Where are we now? Has anything been done?
I think Finch is going to get away with all of this.[/quote75f611df73]
I am going to start compiling the reports this week, but your posts pisses me off. If you were one of the scammed, why didn't you do anything and taking that indignant attitude instead of exepcting others to do all the work?
I don't care about the money, but I want to make sure he gets what's coming to him. I already sent an email to Amazon on behalf of those who paid with Amazon gc and told them we'll be reporting it to the police too. So all of you that are uninvolved and keep saying this is all talk, please be quiet (you guys seem eager to relieve him) and quit putting in your redundant and useless two cents. Like I've said before, we're not fucking publishing everything we do as that helps DLF.
tampadan
07-02-2006 10:43:35
[quote3b0dcf1275="hehehhehe"][quote3b0dcf1275="LucaBella"]well, this topic has stalled big time. Where are we now? Has anything been done?
I think Finch is going to get away with all of this.[/quote3b0dcf1275]
I am going to start compiling the reports this week, but your posts pisses me off. If you were one of the scammed, why didn't you do anything and taking that indignant attitude instead of exepcting others to do all the work?
I don't care about the money, but I want to make sure he gets what's coming to him. I already sent an email to Amazon on behalf of those who paid with Amazon gc and told them we'll be reporting it to the police too. So all of you that are uninvolved and keep saying this is all talk, please be quiet (you guys seem eager to relieve him) and quit putting in your redundant and useless two cents. Like I've said before, we're not fucking publishing everything we do as that helps DLF.[/quote3b0dcf1275]
At this point, "publishing" your contact with authorities is not going to help Finch, only make it more likely for him to get paranoid and maybe goof up somewhere. Has anyone actually filed a report with the police yet?
ummchacha
07-02-2006 10:52:19
Moer power to all of you who are doing something about this. He surely should get what is coming his way. I did not send him any money, but he sure as heck tried to get me to do trades for him for the GCs. So, I was involved in a roundabout way. I just never trusted this whole scheme, and when I posted my doubts I was flamed for it. S I kept my mouth shut from that point on. Way too many people were hurt by this and those that did not get to use the half.com certs deserve to be compensated.
hehehhehe
07-02-2006 10:57:38
[quote8a45db94ff="tampadan"]
At this point, "publishing" your contact with authorities is not going to help Finch, only make it more likely for him to get paranoid and maybe goof up somewhere. Has anyone actually filed a report with the police yet?[/quote8a45db94ff]
And you're involved how? Why would it matter to you?
tampadan
07-02-2006 15:54:23
[quoteb1a6ce432e="hehehhehe"]
And you're involved how? Why would it matter to you?[/quoteb1a6ce432e]
Well, my extent of involvement only includes receiving GCs from him that worked, so I don't have the type of involvement that many of you do. However, the lack of action, whether it be perceived or real, is frustrating to anyone that's ever been scammed by anyone.
LucaBella
07-02-2006 19:50:46
[quotefd6faf296e="hehehhehe"][quotefd6faf296e="LucaBella"]well, this topic has stalled big time. Where are we now? Has anything been done?
I think Finch is going to get away with all of this.[/quotefd6faf296e]
I am going to start compiling the reports this week, but your posts pisses me off. If you were one of the scammed, why didn't you do anything and taking that indignant attitude instead of exepcting others to do all the work?
I don't care about the money, but I want to make sure he gets what's coming to him. I already sent an email to Amazon on behalf of those who paid with Amazon gc and told them we'll be reporting it to the police too. So all of you that are uninvolved and keep saying this is all talk, please be quiet (you guys seem eager to relieve him) and quit putting in your redundant and useless two cents. Like I've said before, we're not fucking publishing everything we do as that helps DLF.[/quotefd6faf296e]
I don't care if my posts piss you off, I am trying to figure out what's going on, and what's required of me. So drop the attitude fucker, and save it for the guy who cheated all of us.
Asshat.
ilanbg
07-02-2006 20:03:56
Everyone chill. The only person this thread should be directing anger at is DLF.
hehehhehe
07-02-2006 21:18:01
[quote492ba55a00="LucaBella"]I don't care if my posts piss you off, I am trying to figure out what's going on, and what's required of me. So drop the attitude fucker, and save it for the guy who cheated all of us.
Asshat.[/quote492ba55a00]
If you haven't noticed already (especially through the PMs I send to tons of people INCLUDING YOU), I'm doing more than most people. You swearing at me doesn't change the fact that you haven't done anything and expect others to do everything while keeping that attitude/temper of yours. Oh, and thank you for the kind words.
Who uses the word asshat lol?
LucaBella
08-02-2006 11:58:53
I was under the impression that we were more powerful as a group, and that if all who were involved posted, detailed info was being gathered and sent to the appropriate people. I didn't think i personally had any real power, and I don't think calling the police in Miami with a few scraps of info will help.
Also, I think that given many people's attitude of "where did you think he was getting these gift certs - you had to know it was something criminal" I personally don't want to call the FBI. I don't want to call the cops and explain that I spent 2400 and bought about 4500 worth of stuff with gift certs that I now know are no good. I am looking for a solution where I can contribute in a way that doesn't expose or risk me.
So I'm asking what else should be done, given my above concerns.
Now I'm going back to the sweet sweet sounds of the White Stripes. It's been a rough few weeks....
hehehhehe
08-02-2006 12:21:42
[quotec2ae27ea00="LucaBella"]I was under the impression that we were more powerful as a group, and that if all who were involved posted, detailed info was being gathered and sent to the appropriate people. I didn't think i personally had any real power, and I don't think calling the police in Miami with a few scraps of info will help.[/quotec2ae27ea00]
That's exactly what we're doing, I guess I'll be putting everything together. I couldn't until now, as I've been crazy busy these past few weeks - you can see in my last PM where to get started. I'm still pretty busy but I just want to get the ball rolling.
In any case, I understand your concern and your frustration. Let's just get this shit done.