Ryanish and Stanleyph2

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=21864

tpham2006

13-09-2005 17:31:37

Had a trade with both of these 2, both of them were my first 2 trades and was done w/o the trade module. Went green for both, Ryanish havent responded to me ever since I went green for him.

Stanleyph2 shows up as black "referral not approved" and havent responded to me since.

KeithA

13-09-2005 18:01:59

Sorry things aren't going the way you hoped they would. You may or may not have been scammed, but odds are, you weren't.

First, you didn't post a chronology of the trade and its developments. Bear in mind, greens are rarely instant, even if advertised as so by the site operators. It is commonplace on this board to allow 15 business days to pass before suspecting anyone of trade fraud, let alone openly accusing them.

If you do suspect trade fraud, make sure you have exhausted every possible alternative--including emailing and IMing--before you post in the Scammers section.

It is critical to do your research at every step of this whole process. From the free site operators and trading communities all the way down to individual users, the opportunities for dishonest behavior are many. Read the rules here at FIPG in full. Read the small print at Freepay's site (and others). Read each offer's fine print.

Good luck getting your trade resolved. Here's to hoping I post before someone calls you a n00b...

tpham2006

13-09-2005 19:41:30

I wouldnt have posted if they had signed up.

Ryanish stop replying to my PM/IM after I went green for him 2 days ago, he did not sign up for my offer.

Stanley, he went black "Referral was not approved"

tracemhunter

13-09-2005 19:44:23

why didnt you use the trade module?

tpham2006

13-09-2005 19:47:01

I was new here and they were the first 2 to pm me about trades. Because we all had under 2 TR, I thought we couldnt use the trade module.

I misread the sticky, it just said that we couldnt request a TR if we are both under 2 TR. What I thought it meant was we couldnt initiate a trade if we were under 2 TR

Admin

13-09-2005 22:38:57

We'll see what happens, but I'm stoked you at least attempted to read the rules )

FreeOffersNow

14-09-2005 08:28:12

tpham2006 just greened on FreeHandBags for me...highly recommended.

Ryanish

14-09-2005 13:01:35

I don't recall our trade.

How about you PM me, like you haven't done yet? If you PM me, I can resolve it with you.

lisighli

wood

14-09-2005 13:03:36

[quote96ea700fa8="Ryanish"]I don't recall our trade.

How about you PM me, like you haven't done yet? If you PM me, I can resolve it with you.

lisighli[/quote96ea700fa8]

Wow. You've been here for all of a week and are already "forgetting" your trades?

You've got a bright future kid...

Ryanish

14-09-2005 13:10:29

[quotedde76daa34="wood"][quotedde76daa34="Ryanish"]I don't recall our trade.

How about you PM me, like you haven't done yet? If you PM me, I can resolve it with you.

lisighli[/quotedde76daa34]

Wow. You've been here for all of a week and are already "forgetting" your trades?

You've got a bright future kid...[/quotedde76daa34]

Nope, i dont even see any PMs in my box with this guy.

I don't write down my trades, I usually do them immediately.

Don't critisize me, when you've got problems of your own.

Pete

14-09-2005 13:16:37

[quote6be24777fc="Ryanish"][quote6be24777fc="wood"][quote6be24777fc="Ryanish"]I don't recall our trade.

How about you PM me, like you haven't done yet? If you PM me, I can resolve it with you.

lisighli[/quote6be24777fc]

Wow. You've been here for all of a week and are already "forgetting" your trades?

You've got a bright future kid...[/quote6be24777fc]

Nope, i dont even see any PMs in my box with this guy.

I don't write down my trades, I usually do them immediately.

Don't critisize me, when you've got problems of your own.[/quote6be24777fc]

wow 233+ posting with in 11 days??? damn you post more then i pee lol j/k

Peinecone

14-09-2005 13:34:45

doylnea has some very interesting info about Ryanish. Until the mods figuire it out, i would avoid trading with him.

Ryanish

14-09-2005 13:37:47

[quoted8282c8a58="Peinecone"]doylnea has some very interesting info about Ryanish. Until the mods figuire it out, i would avoid trading with him.[/quoted8282c8a58]

Thank you for your input, considering you know a lot.

Peinecone

14-09-2005 13:39:26

Maybe more than you think wink

Pete

14-09-2005 13:43:06

[quote4247a44719="Ryanish"][quote4247a44719="Peinecone"]doylnea has some very interesting info about Ryanish. Until the mods figuire it out, i would avoid trading with him.[/quote4247a44719]

Thank you for your input, considering you know a lot.[/quote4247a44719]

Ryanish don't be A http//i21.photobucket.com/albums/b268/pini80/ban.jpg[" alt=""/img4247a44719]

ajrock2000

14-09-2005 13:45:06

[quote2dca2dbe05="Pete"][quote2dca2dbe05="Ryanish"][quote2dca2dbe05="Peinecone"]doylnea has some very interesting info about Ryanish. Until the mods figuire it out, i would avoid trading with him.[/quote2dca2dbe05]

Thank you for your input, considering you know a lot.[/quote2dca2dbe05]

Ryanish don't be A http//i21.photobucket.com/albums/b268/pini80/ban.jpg[" alt=""/img2dca2dbe05][/quote2dca2dbe05]

lol lol lol lol

+Karma for that one.

Pete

14-09-2005 13:46:35

i think we should give +karma to doylnea!

tpham2006

14-09-2005 18:21:13

[quote98e21db464="Ryanish"]I don't recall our trade.

How about you PM me, like you haven't done yet? If you PM me, I can resolve it with you.

lisighli[/quote98e21db464]

lol that's funny

[quote98e21db464]From Ryanish
To tpham2006
Posted Sun Sep 11, 2005 656 pm
Subject Re I can do your ipodnanos
im sorta busy with homework. I will do your offer / stuff tomorrow!

_________________
Current sites
- getipod4free | Processing (9/7)
- thefreeproject | 16/20 | $21 per green PM me
< Give me Negative Karma >
[/quote98e21db464]

Everytime I PM you about when you will sign up, you say "IM me on AIM"

I IM you and you either ignore my IM or sign off.

doylnea

14-09-2005 19:12:47

[quotef3bc6fd766="tpham2006"][quotef3bc6fd766="Ryanish"]I don't recall our trade.

How about you PM me, like you haven't done yet? If you PM me, I can resolve it with you.

lisighli[/quotef3bc6fd766]

lol that's funny

[quotef3bc6fd766]From Ryanish
To tpham2006
Posted Sun Sep 11, 2005 656 pm
Subject Re I can do your ipodnanos
im sorta busy with homework. I will do your offer / stuff tomorrow!

_________________
Current sites
- getipod4free | Processing (9/7)
- thefreeproject | 16/20 | $21 per green PM me
< Give me Negative Karma >
[/quotef3bc6fd766]

Everytime I PM you about when you will sign up, you say "IM me on AIM"

I IM you and you either ignore my IM or sign off.[/quotef3bc6fd766]

He's been banned, I can't imagine you're going to get your trade completed.

tpham2006

14-09-2005 19:53:07

yea, kinda suck (

ummchacha

18-09-2005 07:41:10

So, is Stanleyph2 okay to trade with? Any updates? I just paid him to do a site for me, and want to know if I should be worried. LOL

tpham2006

18-09-2005 07:43:20

Start worrying.

havent replied to me since he went red on my ipodnanos. I talked to Jake and he told me that Stanley is a big scammer and should be avoided.

ummchacha

18-09-2005 09:51:53

Wonderful. Yet another waste of money on a bad trader. He better go green for me, and stay green!!!!!!!! If the trade goes well I will be sure to post it. If not, well, I will post that as well.

ummchacha

18-09-2005 10:11:00

Okay, so should I go ahead and file with Paypal to get my money back? It has only been 2 days, but he (Walter Amaya/ Stanelyph2) has NOT responded to any of my PMs. Normally, I would not worry about a 2 day delay, but considering I paid right after he PMd me, I would have thought he would be around to answer at least one of my 3 messages. What do you think?

tpham2006

18-09-2005 11:15:10

That's how he was with me. Before and during the trade, he would reply to my PM in like 5 seconds. After I went green, havent heard a single word from him.

Fusionballa

18-09-2005 15:12:49

i dont think Ryanish is a scammer, he probably went somewhere

Peinecone

18-09-2005 15:24:21

[quoteec61591337="Fusionballa"]i dont think Ryanish is a scammer, he probably went somewhere[/quoteec61591337]
Are you serious? Is was shown, he was a previously banned user. Now he is banned again. But i still see him posting on A4F.

KeithA

18-09-2005 15:27:24

[quotea10460295b="Peinecone"] But i still see him posting on A4F.[/quotea10460295b]

Is his name the same over there? I don't see him there...

stoogepid

18-09-2005 16:06:06

[quotea4bd8403e2="KeithA"][quotea4bd8403e2="Peinecone"] But i still see him posting on A4F.[/quotea4bd8403e2]

Is his name the same over there? I don't see him there...[/quotea4bd8403e2]

He just recently got suspended cuz people found out that he was scamming there and his rep here. Same username. Same Icon. Ryanish.

dudelovesFinch1035

18-09-2005 16:16:58

He got banned in A4F,lalso lol

ummchacha

18-09-2005 17:23:11

Okay guys, what about Stanleyph2??? What is the scoop on him? Thanks!!!

tpham2006

18-09-2005 20:06:53

wow...can you not read or did you not read my post? lol

ummchacha

18-09-2005 20:28:22

Of coarse I read your post. I read them several times actually. All of the other posts were discussing Ryanish, and not mentioning Stanleyph2. So far you were the only person having trouble with Stanley. I was wondering if anyone else had something to say about Stanley. I paid, and he has not done an offer yet. I will file with Paypal in a day or so if no offer has been done by him. Oh, I also searched the entire forum for anything on him, and your posts were the only ones on him.

theysayjump

22-09-2005 23:37:36

ok, if there is anyone who has a problem with Stanleyph2, then please post the details of your trades here or problems here.

there is another user on the boards who is using the same IP as Stanlyph2 who joined 1 day after the last time Stanleyph2 visited the forums.

im pretty sure its the same guy, but nobody has said that their problems with Stanleyph2 have been resolved, so its 90% that he's a scammer and will be banned.

ummchacha

23-09-2005 08:06:32

Well, isn't this great news? LOL He signed up under my link for freedormaccessories, but never completed an offer as far as I know. I paid him 18.00 upfront, as he was a +2 trader. He has not responded to any PMs.

Zanadoo

23-09-2005 08:19:04

I traded with him a while ago and we've kept in some sort of contact since then. I did his psps for my ipods and after i did his psps he claimed it got put on hold and couldnt do anymore sign-ups until he got everything straigtened out. So i told him to send me a screenshot of his psp site being hold, which he did, and then I told him to keep me updated on how it was getting himself off hold. That was a few days ago and I havent heard from him since, i told him about this thread and he said he was "trying to fix the problem as quickly as possible". So i dont know, maybe be legit with a few problems or just a huge scammer.

ummchacha

23-09-2005 08:22:03

Well, either way there is no excuse for a total lack of communication on Walter's part. He should have contacted me last week. I am more than patient, more than understanding when people have issues that come up. I know we all have a personal life that needs to take a priority above these trading forums. He either needs to cough up a nice fat green (that stays green) or refund my money asap.

mrwzk

23-09-2005 16:47:06

he is a scammer
i posted a traed and he replied instantly with a pm saying im a higher trader send me money first this is my paypal. i had like 8 pending trades so i told him to wait so he would go first cause i didnt trust him. than once i was higher TR than him he all of a sudden didnt want to trade anymore and didnt bother responding to my pms. than i go to A4f to check on my trade tehre and he sent me a pm taking the exact same offer with the same reply to it. he of course was higher TR than me there as well. and now he is bannned from both for scamming.

ummchacha

23-09-2005 19:09:50

What was the ID on A4F? I can not find anything on that forum that mentions his stanleyph2 name.

RoBsTaMaCk

24-09-2005 23:01:54

Just out of curiosity, for those that paid stanleyph2, what is the name & email address for his paypal account?

TheySayJump just banned this new guy RonRomero22 because he had the same IP address as stanleyph2 and I just had a successful trade with RonRomero22 2 days before he got banned.

The name/email for RonRomero22 is Walter Amaya/criplebear2@yahoo.com

Is this ringing a bell with any of you?

comppimp

24-09-2005 23:15:12

[quote91eb36da94="ummchacha"]Well, either way there is no excuse for a total lack of communication on [b91eb36da94]Walter's[/b91eb36da94] part. He should have contacted me last week. I am more than patient, more than understanding when people have issues that come up. I know we all have a personal life that needs to take a priority above these trading forums. He either needs to cough up a nice fat green (that stays green) or refund my money asap.[/quote91eb36da94]

Matches up with RoBsTaMaCk's info that RonRomero22 = Walter Amaya.

RoBsTaMaCk

25-09-2005 07:31:00

Response from trainn on this person

[quote531e94f301]Hello,

Yes, they do have multiple accounts (currently 4) and have had their accounts locked.

J.C.
Account Services
Transcendent Innovations
www.trainn.org
----- Original Message ----- From <XXXX>
To <community@trainn.org>
Sent Saturday, September 24, 2005 850 AM
Subject Question about a referral

>I don't mean to bother you unnecessarily but I have suspicion to believe >that one of my referrals _may_ have violated your TOS due to some quiet >events that happened over at the FreeIpodGuide forums. The referral in >question is email==criplebear2@yahoo.comcriplebear2@yahoo.com=criplebear2@yahoo.comcriplebear2@yahoo.com/email. I would GREATLY appreciate if you >could check his signup now and let me know if he will be blacked/redded out >as I'd like to see if his signup is legit before anything else proceeds. >Thanks so much.
>
> -=Rob
>
> [/quote531e94f301]

RoBsTaMaCk

25-09-2005 07:37:36

I made a possibly huge mistake. Paypal won't let you add extra information to the complaint after it is opened. I tried to add the response from Trainn to the complaint but could not so I closed it and tried to open a new one but now it won't let me. Go figure...

There's now a request to reopen the last complaint and refund the money.

ummchacha

25-09-2005 11:28:10

Well, I also filed with Paypal, but I am not too optimistic about it. I am handing this over to someone else to look into for me. They have much better connections than I do as far as internet fraud goes. I am sure he is already back on this forum under yet another name.