Avoid Matt8789 - a very shady trader/ scammer

I set up a trade with Matt on July 25th for his carstuff4free for my dvdrecorders4free. I went first and went green on July 26th. I had PMed him about this and he signed up under me the same day.

He never went green and has refused to respond to my PM since. I've given him the benefit of the doubt thus far but have started losing confidence in this trade.
I now believe him to be either a very shady unreliable trader or a scammer.

Maybe he'll respond to this message.
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Anyone else having problems with him?

Below are my last 2 PM's not responded to.

From sha316
To Matt8789
Posted Thu Aug 04, 2005 750 am
Subject offer for dvdrecorders4free
Hey, what offer did you sign up for dvdrecorders4free under me?? I haven't yet got credit for you.

From sha316
To Matt8789
Posted Sun Aug 07, 2005 839 am
Subject helloooo
Hey, I had PMed you 3 days earlier as to what offer you completed for me at dvdrecorders4free - I dont have a reply thus far?! Pls. PM me with that info. as I havent yet got credited for your offer.

I'm going to keep this thread up until our trade goes through.

[quote91acd2cbcc="sha316"]...I'm going to keep this thread up until our trade goes through.[/quote91acd2cbcc]

...not that you can really take the thread down, but good luck on getting it resolved.

Yeah he has owed me a green on 3604free for over a week now also. He hasn't been responding to my pm's either, and when I send him pm's they go to my sentbox and I never get replies from him. He has logged on at least twice since I sent him my last one, and still hasn't replied per my request.

anyone else having trouble with matt

Time for bantation?

no I am just hoping to get his attention, something

It took me a week to find out he had joined my site because he won't reply to my pm's

now I am just trying to get a hold of him and see what offer he did, since tranin is having some troubles with certain offers

When someone refuses to respond to pm's though, what am I to think?

[quote50d6cbb90f="wood"]Time for bantation?[/quote50d6cbb90f]

I wouldn't mind seeing him bant.






















j/k..... Even though we don't like eachother too much. wink

Hey sha, I did Miracle Dose probably almost a 2 weeks ago and with the weekands and plus i was stupid and did the offer on Firefox, i never got credit so i just found another next day credit (Official Auctioneers) offer that i did an hour ago. I got back from a wedding and am following up on offers for Jmile and Buckett too (check PMs). Justin, sorry about the PMs again, i might need a new fucking laptop it can never get the internet right. I did Driving for dollars yesturday and should have been greened today. And J you have beef with me?

[quoteb29e6c6bac="Matt8789"]Hey sha, I did Miracle Dose probably almost a 2 weeks ago and with the weekands and plus i was stupid and did the offer on Firefox, i never got credit so i just found another next day credit (Official Auctioneers) offer that i did an hour ago. I got back from a wedding and am following up on offers for Jmile and Buckett too (check PMs). Justin, sorry about the PMs again, i might need a new fucking laptop it can never get the internet right. I did Driving for dollars yesturday and should have been greened today. And J you have beef with me?[/quoteb29e6c6bac]

I thought you always didn't like me. Maybe not. Maybe I'm making false assumptions. shock

[quote72c6ef61af="Matt8789"]Hey sha, I did Miracle Dose probably almost a 2 weeks ago and with the weekands and plus i was stupid and did the offer on Firefox, i never got credit so i just found another next day credit (Official Auctioneers) offer that i did an hour ago. I got back from a wedding and am following up on offers for Jmile and Buckett too (check PMs). Justin, sorry about the PMs again, i might need a new fucking laptop it can never get the internet right. I did Driving for dollars yesturday and should have been greened today. And J you have beef with me?[/quote72c6ef61af]

Appreciate your reply man. I'll update the status when our trade successfully goes through.

[quote46b0a74313="J4320"][quote46b0a74313="Matt8789"]Hey sha, I did Miracle Dose probably almost a 2 weeks ago and with the weekands and plus i was stupid and did the offer on Firefox, i never got credit so i just found another next day credit (Official Auctioneers) offer that i did an hour ago. I got back from a wedding and am following up on offers for Jmile and Buckett too (check PMs). Justin, sorry about the PMs again, i might need a new fucking laptop it can never get the internet right. I did Driving for dollars yesturday and should have been greened today. And J you have beef with me?[/quote46b0a74313]

I thought you always didn't like me. Maybe not. Maybe I'm making false assumptions. shock[/quote46b0a74313]

I dont hate or not like anbody here..except for CC40..hes ghey

Glad to see you're back Matt.

Hopefully this can all be resolved amicably.

[quote2a292c40a7="wood"]Hopefully this can all be resolved [b2a292c40a7]amicably[/b2a292c40a7].[/quote2a292c40a7]

Nice word choice. wink

[quotec2264a3d56="Matt8789"][quotec2264a3d56="J4320"][quotec2264a3d56="Matt8789"]Hey sha, I did Miracle Dose probably almost a 2 weeks ago and with the weekands and plus i was stupid and did the offer on Firefox, i never got credit so i just found another next day credit (Official Auctioneers) offer that i did an hour ago. I got back from a wedding and am following up on offers for Jmile and Buckett too (check PMs). Justin, sorry about the PMs again, i might need a new fucking laptop it can never get the internet right. I did Driving for dollars yesturday and should have been greened today. And J you have beef with me?[/quotec2264a3d56]

I thought you always didn't like me. Maybe not. Maybe I'm making false assumptions. shock[/quotec2264a3d56]

I dont hate or not like anbody here..except for CC40..hes ghey[/quotec2264a3d56]

I don't hate anyone here at all. And I've talked to CC40 in person. He's pretty cool but scamming all of these people and acting like a retard on here was ghey.

[quote1b057729e1="J4320"][quote1b057729e1="Matt8789"][quote1b057729e1="J4320"][quote1b057729e1="Matt8789"]Hey sha, I did Miracle Dose probably almost a 2 weeks ago and with the weekands and plus i was stupid and did the offer on Firefox, i never got credit so i just found another next day credit (Official Auctioneers) offer that i did an hour ago. I got back from a wedding and am following up on offers for Jmile and Buckett too (check PMs). Justin, sorry about the PMs again, i might need a new fucking laptop it can never get the internet right. I did Driving for dollars yesturday and should have been greened today. And J you have beef with me?[/quote1b057729e1]

I thought you always didn't like me. Maybe not. Maybe I'm making false assumptions. shock[/quote1b057729e1]

I dont hate or not like anbody here..except for CC40..hes ghey[/quote1b057729e1]

you met cc40? o

I don't hate anyone here at all. And I've talked to CC40 in person. He's pretty cool but scamming all of these people and acting like a retard on here was ghey.[/quote1b057729e1]

Well actually in voice over xbox live. And I think wood has also.

still no green

Hey Matt, you went green for me ) Thanks man.

Shankar

still no green been 17 days since you signed up

still not replying to pm's


whats up man?

I only need one more green so at this point if an offer isnt going to credit you just pay me 22 dollars ill call it even

not replying to my pm's either. owes me a minicool.4nocash

still not replying to anything



im keeping this bumped

he logs in every day and no matter what will not reply to pm's or this thread. It's been 5 days now since I sent him my last pm, and still no reply even though he comes here every day.

The only reason I can see him still coming here is to try and scam noobs. Look at his last couple posts


I can't see how he has any intention of going green for me, if he won't even keep the lines of comunication open.

[quote4450b94e63="wood"]Time for bantation?[/quote4450b94e63]

yes please

I've sent you a PM Justin..i cant do anything on getting credit for these offers besides sending in tickets..Trainn needs to credit better

[quotea2428bbd17="Matt8789"]I've sent you a PM Justin..i cant do anything on getting credit for these offers besides sending in tickets..Trainn needs to credit better[/quotea2428bbd17]

no excuse for not replying to pm's or this thread.

also it has been 23 days, thats more than enough time for someone to do an offer and get credit, if credit is due

did you try contacting alan?

did you try doing another offer?

or are you just lying and buying time?

i have also been waiting on a green from matt for almost a month but still nothing.

still nothing matt it has been 26 days since I greened for you

how much longer does he need?

can we just work this out with a paypal payment?

you pay someone off the boards to green for me ill accept that

please respond otherwise im going to cry for your banishment

Iv green for Sha, which was about 2 weeks ago..and now iv greened for Justin..does this post still have to be here? It wasnt his to begin with..

Can i have my old TR back too? I believe its 30 now..

yes you did green for me


I know at one point laramec and damnac still were lacking greens from you so I can't put my full faith back in yet

its between you, them and the moderators now

i still have not recieved a green either ... it has been a month

no answer to my last pm's about following up on my minicool green

[quotedd81b084bd="Matt8789"]Iv green for Sha, which was about 2 weeks ago..and now iv greened for Justin..does this post still have to be here? It wasnt his to begin with..[/quotedd81b084bd]

this thread will stay open until its been resolved, which at the moment it hasnt been.

another week has gone by and still no green!

it has been a month and a half now and nothing. there is no reason for it to take this long to green.

I dont like scamming for 1, and I dont like scamming when its to get greens on my site.

Iv been trying to get ahold of you Bryan but you havent been answering my PMs..i did ANOTHER offer 2 days ago and still havent gotten credit and it was in the middle of the week..can you help me out here Bryan?

I just completed my green with icabod yesturday

so where is my green matt? ive been waiting for 6 weeks and you wont respond to me on here or pms. time for banishment.

Iv been trying to contact Bryan of the site for a month with no response to my PMs about offers, credit, and changing my Paypal option with no help..I did another offer 3 days ago in the middle of the week that gives 1 day credit with NO credit since..before then my ticket for the other offer was not answered..

Its hard too especially when they change the requirments and give 1/2 credit and full credit offers instead of all full credit ones..im not trying to scam anyone, iv completed greens for everyone else besides you and damac that i needed too..its not like you guys are any different..these SMALLER sites need to CREDIT like they say they will..if its gonna be weeks and weekands they should say it will be

Does Bryan want to answer my PMs or should i talk to him about everything here?

well i would rather have a green than have you banned ... especially since you are my last green.

From bryanvanalmkerk
To Matt8789
Posted Sun Sep 11, 2005 756 pm
Subject Re Need some help Quote message

give it a couple of more days, then contact me again )

yeah matt you haven't initiated contact with me either, didnt answer last pm, the trade we have is in the module you could easily check up on your shit.

matt is a scammer, he also never signed up for my site, it's been at least a week now, hasn't contacted me, i got another referral, asked him to kindly pay me, still no answer, completely ignores me

ok its been a few days like you said. ohh wait its been 7 weeks. yeah you are a scammer. you send me $30 paypal and our trade will be complete cause you aren't ever gonna green.

to me also, i want 25 bucks through paypal, iw ent green for you like two weeks ago, this is getting effing annoying

ok so he hasn't done anything in the last week. just ban him. i'm sick of waiting around. [b095f2cc155]2 months [/b095f2cc155]now for a green and nothing. there has been plenty of time to get a green or just pay me back for the site but he has done nothing. i say he should be banned.

yeah same as me, lets gather all his links and report them, i cant believe such a piece of shit can ignore pm's here and continue to post.

he owes me something for his carstuff and the owner already posted here saying he would hold the guy if hes scamming other users.

he owes me some money asap, you cant trust shit that he says obviously.

this was the response from Matt8789 a few days ago when i PM'ed him about this

[quote44362df9e4="Matt8789"]Well, all of the other people on that thread and the one who STARTED IT i greened for and yet its still there and 2 other people want greens yeah and iv done numerous offers for them yeah i said before its not like i green for some and then scam for others..how would i still be here and go about doing that without getting caught? Tell me[/quote44362df9e4]
'
this is my response to him, which got no reply

[quote44362df9e4]why would they complain about you if they got what they wanted? ive checked the trade module and the trades you have with those people havent been updated to reflect the fact that you've greend for them.

none of them are requesting TR, one of the trades hasnt even been updated since July.

i see no reason as to why they would lie about it, if anything they would want to get it all over and done with.

frank[/quote44362df9e4]

so he still hasnt done shit for anyone, even though he says he has?

no he has not greened for me. he has not responded to me for a week now. he keeps telling me that he has done numerous offers but with no luck. i dont know why he wants this thread deleted when he obviously has not greened for everyone. at this point paypal for the site i did for him would be better than nothing. ohh and its been 2 months!!!

well he wants it deleted so that nobody will see it. even if everything gets resolved, its not going to be deleted.

he never even signed up for my 4nocash site, gave me the run around every since i contacted him after the new owner took over.

so since he continued to post here and ignore my pm's and not initiate any contact i moved on and got another ref cause i told him i was waiting on him. after hearing of others issues i knew i had to finish my account off so thats where im at.

so yeah he hasnt done shit for me.

Just reply to him in every topic he posts in

Matt8789 is a scammer

with a link to this thread, he'll listen to ya then

ha thats a good idea. see if he likes it when every trade he tries to initiate people see hes a scammer.

[quotebcd7041ab3="damac"]he never even signed up for my 4nocash site, gave me the run around every since i contacted him after the new owner took over.

so since he continued to post here and ignore my pm's and not initiate any contact i moved on and got another ref cause i told him i was waiting on him. after hearing of others issues i knew i had to finish my account off so thats where im at.

so yeah he hasnt done shit for me.[/quotebcd7041ab3]

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so how about me matt?? i see you finally got on and responded to your thread but failed to read my pms or address our issue on the thread. where is my green??

this is still active, deserves a bump

well after 2 months of waiting matt greened for my carstuff4free. our trade is done.

wow.....1 down, how many more to go?

well heres the thing, has everything been resolved with the other trade someone did with matt for carstuff4free? I need to know this in order to rectify this situation and make people happy at the same time.

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that shit is 8 dollars? Cartenroy's always advertising it as 3 in his trading posts. or are they different offers?

no those are 2 different offers. the one cartrenroy is talking about is JUENESSE, the one that matt8789 did was JEVENE wink

[quote7f3a4ba09a="theysayjump"]no those are 2 different offers. the one cartrenroy is talking about is JUENESSE, the one that matt8789 did was JEVENE wink[/quote7f3a4ba09a]

haha crazy

There goes my credit..it was green for a couple hours and i sent for verification for my Paypal..3 greens for $100 i just wanted to get this site over with and now its not there anymore

So, is carstuff4free no more?!

well thats what i was thiking but the site works for me ?

i complained to the owner of carstuff4free because thats the site i did for you long ago, and he said he would hold you for fucking with traders posting in this thread )

[quoteaa9dfa76cf="Matt8789"]There goes my credit..it was green for a couple hours and i sent for verification for my Paypal..3 greens for $100 i just wanted to get this site over with and now its not there anymore[/quoteaa9dfa76cf]

are you talking about carstuff4free? if so then there goes our trade. i hope you arent red.

[quotefa7099de0d="laramec"][quotefa7099de0d="Matt8789"]There goes my credit..it was green for a couple hours and i sent for verification for my Paypal..3 greens for $100 i just wanted to get this site over with and now its not there anymore[/quotefa7099de0d]

are you talking about carstuff4free? if so then there goes our trade. i hope you arent red.[/quotefa7099de0d]

He told me there was a problem with the site thats why it went away for a little bit but its back now. He told me that his sources said i didnt do an offer when i did..

well what do you know ... matt when red for me. will this ever end? i say we just ban him.

OK, I was never gone as matt said I was. I put his account on hold because of receiving so many pms from users saying hes scamming people for refs on my site. Until everything is figured out he will remain on hold.

Again, I was never gone, nor will I ever be gone.

well i have never believed one thing matt has said. thanks for the reasoning behind his red. i might as just move on without him because he will never straighten all this mess out.

I just want everything situated on his trades and everything. I need proof he paid or did all his trades and everyones happy with him.

three month bump.

why is matt's TR back? he still has not greened for me. he is red!

Just to clarify, Matt8789 has been banned.

If anyone has paid him money but didn't get their greens from him, if you can, I'd suggest filing a paypal claim.

he said to me that he was let back and everything was clear. Whats going on with him now?