Paying $125 for one refferal

Alright I need a ref to get a 14in. iBook at iStuffFree.com. I know it's a DIY site, but it needs a ref, so here i am!

All you do is sign up and do 8 offers. I know 8 offers is a lot for one ref, but none of them are OODs and a lot of them are actually free trials and the like. There's actually a pretty good variety of trials, purchases, or whatever you can do. Most people can do thier 8 offers for anywhere from $20 to $60...but i think $35 is like the average.

The site requirements are 8 offers plus a ref, so if you sign up for under me, i'll help you get a ref afterwards too. Here's my propostion

Once you complete 8 offers for me and i get my iBook, I'll help you get your ref. Hopefully you can get a refferal in time, and you can get your iBook as well. This would be the most ideal situation for both of us.

however, [bc067ba0672]IF[/bc067ba0672] you help me get my iBook, [bc067ba0672]but[/bc067ba0672] you don't get a ref for yourself by the time your account expires, I'll still make it worth your time and effort. I will pay you [bc067ba0672]$125[/bc067ba0672] for doing the 8 offers for me and helping me get my iBook. Remember this is only if you actually get credit for all 8 offers and i actually do get my iBook. If you hold up your end, but you don't get a ref, i will send you the money.

I actually don't mind paying that much money on one ref. I'd be spending more than that much paying for refs on freepays laptop site, and i think it's worth it.

So you either get a $1300 laptop, or $125 for doing the offers and helping me out. It's a win-win situation.

I just know that someone is going to come in here compaining that it's an i-deal site. please keep your comments to yourself. yes there have been people being dq'd, but that's for doing multiple offers at once or doing the same offer more than once. I do not plan on doing this, and i'm looking for a ref that won't too. If you fraud the offers, i don't get my iBook, and you don't get paid. it's that simple.

So that being said i'm looking for someone who can do the offers on the different pages, and who can do it accurately. I'm more interested in being careful and not getting dq'd than in doing all the cheapest offers.

If you're interested, please PM me and we can work it out that way. also, if you have any question, or if i havn't been clear, please PM me and i'll answer you. I'm only interested in serious prospects here, and i'd prefer it if you were familiar with the DIY scene and knew how it worked. thanks a lot!

I'm still kinda confused. You're going to help us get the one ref we need? How are you going to go about doing that?

[quote2ecae56787]Once you complete 8 offers for me and i get my iBook, I'll help you get your ref. [/quote2ecae56787]

i'm sure u know that after you sent in ur certs and recieving the ibook is atleast 4-6 weeks. Addition to the wait for your referral's offer that is about 2-3 weeks. so that leaves 1-2 week left for him to find a referral and complete 8 offers and send it in?

i think it would be more reasonable if you help once u sent in ur certs or somewhere along that line. unless that was on purpose?

i'd do it but you have to pay ata least $70 to cover offer costs.

[quoted304867f05="Nimh"]I'm still kinda confused. You're going to help us get the one ref we need? How are you going to go about doing that?[/quoted304867f05]

basically anyway i can.

[quoted304867f05="Supacold"][quoted304867f05]Once you complete 8 offers for me and i get my iBook, I'll help you get your ref. [/quoted304867f05]

i'm sure u know that after you sent in ur certs and recieving the ibook is atleast 4-6 weeks. Addition to the wait for your referral's offer that is about 2-3 weeks. so that leaves 1-2 week left for him to find a referral and complete 8 offers and send it in?

i think it would be more reasonable if you help once u sent in ur certs or somewhere along that line. unless that was on purpose?[/quoted304867f05]

no, i pay you after your account has expired. by the time your account has expired, mine will have expired too. if you went green for me, and you didn't find a ref, then i pay you.

[quoted304867f05="EatChex89"]i'd do it but you have to pay ata least $70 to cover offer costs.[/quoted304867f05]

huh? i'm paying you $125...that's more than $70. I'm doing all 8 of my offers for under $25 total...so i don't know what you're talking about

Just a question, how are you going to know if someone gets a referral or not?

[quotea5131feab2="fgr_admin"]Just a question, how are you going to know if someone gets a referral or not?[/quotea5131feab2]

well chances are they're going to be getting a ref through this forum, so i'll find out that way. I'm a honest person, so i expect whoever signs up under me to be as well.



this is nothing more than a way to start a conga and maybe keep it going. The only difference is that the last guy who signs up dosn't get screwed....he still get's $125.

so u arent paying if i were to sign up and find a referal? i think you should pay 125$ for the referal regardless of wheather the person under u choses to go for a gift or not

[quote4e58292df8="mrwzk"]so u arent paying if i were to sign up and find a referal?[/quote4e58292df8]

correct

[quote4e58292df8="mrwzk"]i think you should pay 125$ for the referal regardless of wheather the person under u choses to go for a gift or not[/quote4e58292df8]

um no. I'm doing this so that we can get a conga up and rolling, but that the last guy who dosn't get a ref dosn't get screwed. If you sign up, you either get a $1300 iBook, or $125 for doing the offers for me and helping me get my iBook...not both. This just gives some people an extra cusion if they were gonna do this site before but were nervous about finding a ref. Now even if you don't, it won't be as bad as if you just wasted $35 for nothing.

Has anyone received a gift from these guys lately? Seriously -- I've been on this and two other boards for three months and not a single person has reported getting anything from these guys. Then they renegged on doing manual credits. AND, any e-mails to their listed customer support e-mail addresses get bounced.

I always hate the guys on message boards that always pipe up with their constant negativity, and I am sorry to be that guy, but think about any other company treating customers like this. Somehow because they are faceless and on the Internet, we dont seem to hold them to a very high standard.

People are doing 12+ deals to qualify for sites that only ask for 8 because they are so bad at crediting. And the more we keep doing extra fill-ins, the less incentive they have to actually credit you for doing the right amount. They must be in heaven watching people do all these extra offers.

Did you know that the corporate address listed on their website is a UPS store? And that the company actually is located in Harrisburg, PA, but they insist on claiming that they are a Chicago-based company?

yeah according to the whois info its located in
Carlisle, PA

i knew you'd pipe up eventually....let's see if we can't clear some things up....

[quote44f97a9673="icojones"]Has anyone received a gift from these guys lately? Seriously -- I've been on this and two other boards for three months and not a single person has reported getting anything from these guys. Then they renegged on doing manual credits.[/quote44f97a9673]

As i believe, there are several members on this forum who have sent in thier certs for different sites already. Are they just gonna dq them after they've recieved thier certs. It is possible to finish thier sites, and if you finish thier sites there's no reason they shouldn't send you the gift.

[quote44f97a9673="icojones"]AND, any e-mails to their listed customer support e-mail addresses get bounced.[/quote44f97a9673]

Taken from another thread
[quote44f97a9673="someone else"](This is a) confirmed i-Deal Direct site, I e-mailed them and they said that they were "affiliated" with i-Deal Direct.[/quote44f97a9673]

hmm...sounds like he got a hold of them fine.

[quote44f97a9673="icojones"]People are doing 12+ deals to qualify for sites that only ask for 8 because they are so bad at crediting. And the more we keep doing extra fill-ins, the less incentive they have to actually credit you for doing the right amount. They must be in heaven watching people do all these extra offers.[/quote44f97a9673]

Seriously it's not like the offers are all that expensive. If like 5 OODs wern't crediting, I'd get mad. But if one or two free or extremely cheap offers won't credit, i don't think it's that much of a big deal. I'm planning on doing one extra offer per page (making 11 total)...and it's still only costing me $25. I'm gonna complain if a totally free or $5 offer won't credit when i have 10 other offers that are? i don't think so...

[quote44f97a9673="icojones"]Did you know that the corporate address listed on their website is a UPS store? And that the company actually is located in Harrisburg, PA, but they insist on claiming that they are a Chicago-based company?[/quote44f97a9673]

I don't know about that, but would it surprise you if the same company had more than one office in different parts of the company gasp OH NOES! lol...companies grow, esp a company running multiple online sites. So what if they have more than one offices spread around....maybe it makes it easier for regional shipping, i don't know. all i know is that what you just put up there really isn't anything against them, and i don't see why you hate them so much.

Letting you know, since you have the lower TR, you'd have to pay the $125, or a refferal first.

I got disqulified AFTER sending in my certificates and after my status on the site went to confirmed.

Having multiple offices is one thing, but having the only address listed on your website be a UPS Store in a different state than your actual offices is shady. They are also not registered to do business in the state of Illinois -- also shady. Companies with multiple offices register in each state that they do business.

http//www.i-dealdirect.com/contact.htm


How do you laugh off the fact that they won't offer manual credit, despite the fact that it is in their terms? Why should they offer it, if by not offering it they get people to keep doing more and more offers?

Also, keep in mind that my entire account was disqualified for something that they explicitly state in their terms will only result in you not getting credit for an offer. According the their terms, I should still have an active account, but I should need to do more offers. Instead, they DQ's me, reinstated me and DQ'd me again a week later. And they have yet to respond to a letter that they received on March 3.

I have sent e-mail messages to email==cs@consumersavingcenter.comcs@consumersavingcenter.com=cs@consumersavingcenter.comcs@consumersavingcenter.com/email and email==cs@freeluxurywatch.comcs@freeluxurywatch.com=cs@freeluxurywatch.comcs@freeluxurywatch.com/email and email==cs@yourchoicereward.comcs@yourchoicereward.com=cs@yourchoicereward.comcs@yourchoicereward.com/email and they have all been bounced. Those are the only e-mail addresses you can get if you have not been contacted by them.

They go against their own stated terms to suit themselves, and the more people that do extra offers, the more likely it seems that they will keep doing it. The whole point of good customer service is to keep customers buying. When you have shit customer service and all it does it make people BUY MORE, you have very little incentive to do better.

And the bottom line (and the one thing you have been unable to dispute) is that noone has received a gift from them in a very long time. They are not a new company -- their sites have been up continuously for many years, and people have received gifts from them in the past. Just not now.

I would love if they start fulfilling gifts -- I have many friends that are in process. And if they do, it will give me a greenlight to start again. I just think it is very foolish to keep throwing more money at these guys when they have not given any reason for us to have faith in them.

No conga lines here

[quote4ee1b77c58="icojones"]Has anyone received a gift from these guys lately? Seriously -- I've been on this and two other boards for three months and not a single person has reported getting anything from these guys. [/quote4ee1b77c58]
Now that's not true -- in the short time I've been into these DIY (or DIY+single referral) sites, I've run across several reports of I-Deal paying out on lawn tractors and checks, and I believe Rolexes too. That's what convinced me that the CSC plasma site was likely legit.

They've been around for awhile and unless they've just now decided to go bad, I don't see any reason to doubt them at this point. Granted their attitude toward manual credit sucks, but I don't expect these sites to make it easy on us -- that's why I'm extremely meticulous about following the rules to the letter and doing my best to make sure I have a credible referral who will do the same. Being aggressive about DQ'ing is fine with me, because I'm not going to do anything that would get me DQ'ed. Being loose with crediting is not unique to I-Deal either, it happens on all sites, so I don't mind doing a couple extra offers if necessary -- especially since I-Deal has the easiest offers of any of the big-ticket-item DIY sites.

Maybe I'll get my product, maybe not, but I've seen no evidence of scamming yet to make me concerned that they won't follow through.

[quotef5999bea12="dmorris68"][quotef5999bea12="icojones"]Has anyone received a gift from these guys lately? Seriously -- I've been on this and two other boards for three months and not a single person has reported getting anything from these guys. [/quotef5999bea12]
Now that's not true -- in the short time I've been into these DIY (or DIY+single referral) sites, I've run across several reports of I-Deal paying out on lawn tractors and checks, and I believe Rolexes too. That's what convinced me that the CSC plasma site was likely legit.

They've been around for awhile and unless they've just now decided to go bad, I don't see any reason to doubt them at this point. Granted their attitude toward manual credit sucks, but I don't expect these sites to make it easy on us -- that's why I'm extremely meticulous about following the rules to the letter and doing my best to make sure I have a credible referral who will do the same. Being aggressive about DQ'ing is fine with me, because I'm not going to do anything that would get me DQ'ed. Being loose with crediting is not unique to I-Deal either, it happens on all sites, so I don't mind doing a couple extra offers if necessary -- especially since I-Deal has the easiest offers of any of the big-ticket-item DIY sites.

Maybe I'll get my product, maybe not, but I've seen no evidence of scamming yet to make me concerned that they won't follow through.[/quotef5999bea12]

exactly. thank ye for that wink

anyways, this isn't a thread about if i-deal direct is legit or not. It's been around for a while. I'd say while they are sticklers about dq'ing people, as long as your careful and know what you're doing, you should be fine. Does anyone want to do this?

[quote119b1083ae="crazyates"]Once you complete 8 offers for me and i get my iBook, I'll help you get your ref. Hopefully you can get a refferal in time, and you can get your iBook as well. This would be the most ideal situation for both of us.[/quote119b1083ae]
You can't even get your own ref (hence this post), so how are you going to help us get ours? thats...just stupid roll

[quote119b1083ae="crazyates"]Remember this is only if you actually get credit for all 8 offers and [b119b1083ae]i actually do get my iBook.[/b119b1083ae][/quote119b1083ae]
So if you get DQ'd for screwing up your own 8 offers, we get nothing?
lol NICE TRY!


[quote119b1083ae="crazyates"]So you either get a $1300 laptop, or $125 for doing the offers and helping me out. [/quote119b1083ae]
Or we get nothing, if you screw up!


[u119b1083ae]This is a terrible offer and I hope none of you already signed up for this.[/u119b1083ae]



Here's an idea! Next time you want to pull something over on us, try smaller font![/size119b1083ae]

[quoted7402fff28="MightyMouse"][quoted7402fff28="crazyates"]Once you complete 8 offers for me and i get my iBook, I'll help you get your ref. Hopefully you can get a refferal in time, and you can get your iBook as well. This would be the most ideal situation for both of us.[/quoted7402fff28]
You can't even get your own ref (hence this post), so how are you going to help us get ours? thats...just stupid roll[/quoted7402fff28]

Yes, i will help you find a ref. If anyone else PMs me after the first person signs up, i will re-direct them to him. It's also my sugustion that whoever signs up under me does the same thing i've done.

[quoted7402fff28="MightyMouse"][quoted7402fff28="crazyates"]Remember this is only if you actually get credit for all 8 offers and i actually do get my iBook.[/quoted7402fff28]
So if you get DQ'd for screwing up your own 8 offers, we get nothing?
lol NICE TRY![/quoted7402fff28]

not true. I'll take back what i said about actually getting my iBook. I don't have to actually get my iBook, but you do have to hold up your end of the bargain and do your 8 offers in time. If i don't get my iBook cuz i screwed up, then you are not responsible and you still get payed. If you screw up, and i'm left with no lappy, then no, you don't get paid.


[quoted7402fff28="MightyMouse"][quoted7402fff28="crazyates"]So you either get a $1300 laptop, or $125 for doing the offers and helping me out. [/quoted7402fff28]
Or we get nothing, if you screw up![/quoted7402fff28]

i think i already answered this. also, even if i dq myself (which i don't plan on doing, i'm being extremely careful)...you still have the cance to get your own iBook. As long as you hold up your end of the bargain, you'll get paid.

Me getting an iBook is the goal of this trade, but the trade itself consists of 8 offers for $125. Standard trade rules apply. if you go "red"....you don't get paid. Even if you go green, but i dq myself, i still have to pay. i thought that was a given from the very beginning shrug