STOP REQUESTING TR IF YOU ARE BOTH UNDER 2TR

With the new influx of users, alot of them are either not reading the rules or trying to be slick by either trying to inflate their TR making fake accounts or requesting TR between users that each have under 2 TR. As per the rules, NO tr will be given if both users are under that 2TR threshold, so don't even request if that's the case.

[quote1fa3449512]If you have...
0-1 TR and the person you're nominating has 0-1 TR (THIS SHOULDN'T HAPPEN) there will be no TR points given, so don't bother nominating. [/quote1fa3449512]

And for those of you trying to make fake accounts to inflate your TR, I will be VERY unforgiving for anyone caught doing this, as I expect other mods will be too. We will find out, and you will get banned. Period.

what about 1 TR people who trade with other 1 TR people? I did that today? How are we suppose to go up?!

[quote47a517cbfe="raft"]what about 1 TR people who trade with other 1 TR people? I did that today? How are we suppose to go up?![/quote47a517cbfe]

Trade w/ people who are higher then 2 TR

^ What he said.

That's retarded.

[quote014d41cf7f="raft"]That's retarded.[/quote014d41cf7f]

Retarded? Would you trust someone's trade record if the trades that user has conducted has been with other new users that could very well be just as a result of TR inflation? I guess you'd rather get scammed then.

with so many high level traders i think we need to raise it to 5 for minimum high trader.

[quote31effe335b="JOSHBOX"]with so many high level traders i think we need to raise it to 5 for minimum high trader.[/quote31effe335b]

I've been thinking about that too. I'll discuss it with the other mods.

raise it to 50!


errr

lol

[quote87a596f6ec="CoMpFrEaK"]raise it to 50!


errr

lol[/quote87a596f6ec]

Thats funny compfreak....That way everyone could trade with you?????

5 might be kinda harsh

Can I have TR with my trade with dudelovesFinch1035, we are both unique users, even with post counts. We are clearly two different people and thus should be given TR.
Can't you just check IP's for suspicious trades?

[quote44098a56f9="raft"]Can I have TR with my trade with dudelovesFinch1035, we are both unique users, even with post counts. We are clearly two different people and thus should be given TR.
Can't you just check IP's for suspicious trades?[/quote44098a56f9]I know this sucks we can't get credited cause we're new cry

yeah sucks

[quote6d2ed0559c="raft"]Can I have TR with my trade with dudelovesFinch1035, we are both unique users, even with post counts. We are clearly two different people and thus should be given TR.
Can't you just check IP's for suspicious trades?[/quote6d2ed0559c]

just because you are both unique and may have different IP's etc, doesnt mean we can just give you +TR.

thats not the way it works, its at +2 TR for a reason.

if we gave you +TR just for the reaosn that you are both unique, then we would have to give it to everyone else also, therefore rendering the +2 TR system useless.

It clearly says in the rules that this is how it works, its not our fault you guys dont read the rules.

it doesn't suck. i feel safe with that rule... but i guess you guys would rather trade with people who come here with the intentions of scamming people by bumping their TR and acting like they're legit.

lol, these new ppl just dont realize this rule is in effect for the safety of the user (them)....if not, i could just creat multiple accounts, inflate my tr...and rip everyone off...quit complaining and do 2 trades w/ ppl higher than 2 tr and move on

yes but at the same time there is such a flux of users that are 5, 10 and higher who have done all the sites out there and most of the offers. So if I am a newbie and want to trade referral for referral and can't afford to pay someone for a referral then I am out of luck. But if two newbies come in and are both ready to trade referral for referral then why shoul dthey be banned from trading in the module. That is why we have the scammers list, all the TR does is build some trust but is not the end all to scamming. I now have a TR of 9, does that mean I can't scam someone....No! So I can see why you are trying to protect people from scammers but it is also hurting newbies who want to trade. I would have a TR of 12 right now if it was not for that rule b/c I did 3 trade early on with another newbie. That is just my two sense for what it is worth!

[quote5159a59ab1="skooter22c"]yes but at the same time there is such a flux of users that are 5, 10 and higher who have done all the sites out there and most of the offers. So if I am a newbie and want to trade referral for referral and can't afford to pay someone for a referral then I am out of luck. But if two newbies come in and are both ready to trade referral for referral then why shoul dthey be banned from trading in the module. That is why we have the scammers list, all the TR does is build some trust but is not the end all to scamming. I now have a TR of 9, does that mean I can't scam someone....No! So I can see why you are trying to protect people from scammers but it is also hurting newbies who want to trade. I would have a TR of 12 right now if it was not for that rule b/c I did 3 trade early on with another newbie. That is just my two sense for what it is worth![/quote5159a59ab1]

Point taken. The arguement can go on forever this way. CAN EVERYONE JUST STOP USING THE STUPID CLICHE "Just my two cents". Thank you.

[quote137dd471d2="skooter22c"]yes but at the same time there is such a flux of users that are 5, 10 and higher who have done all the sites out there and most of the offers. So if I am a newbie and want to trade referral for referral and can't afford to pay someone for a referral then I am out of luck. But if two newbies come in and are both ready to trade referral for referral then why shoul dthey be banned from trading in the module. That is why we have the scammers list, all the TR does is build some trust but is not the end all to scamming. I now have a TR of 9, does that mean I can't scam someone....No! So I can see why you are trying to protect people from scammers but it is also hurting newbies who want to trade. I would have a TR of 12 right now if it was not for that rule b/c I did 3 trade early on with another newbie. That is just my two sense for what it is worth![/quote137dd471d2]

I would definately agree with this. I have done every site, except for 2/3 of them and I only have 7 for my TR on here. I did trading on A4F though(60+ trades). It does kind of stink to not have newbies be able to trade each other. I mean who else is able to do Freeipods??
Melissa

[quote846e9e6e0d="melmarie80"][quote846e9e6e0d="skooter22c"]yes but at the same time there is such a flux of users that are 5, 10 and higher who have done all the sites out there and most of the offers. So if I am a newbie and want to trade referral for referral and can't afford to pay someone for a referral then I am out of luck. But if two newbies come in and are both ready to trade referral for referral then why shoul dthey be banned from trading in the module. That is why we have the scammers list, all the TR does is build some trust but is not the end all to scamming. I now have a TR of 9, does that mean I can't scam someone....No! So I can see why you are trying to protect people from scammers but it is also hurting newbies who want to trade. I would have a TR of 12 right now if it was not for that rule b/c I did 3 trade early on with another newbie. That is just my two sense for what it is worth![/quote846e9e6e0d]

I would definately agree with this. I have done every site, except for 2/3 of them and I only have 7 for my TR on here. I did trading on A4F though(60+ trades). It does kind of stink to not have newbies be able to trade each other. I mean who else is able to do Freeipods??
Melissa[/quote846e9e6e0d]

I can do freeipod for the right price.

thats the other kicker on this forum, for some people it is just another way to make a few bucks. If you are an offer slut that is one thing but if you are here to get referrals for free stuff try trading. The whole idea ia getting free stuff not buying stuff. Ok so some offers cost money so I might pay you the actual cost to do the offer but there has to be a line. WE ARE ALL HERE TO GET FREE STUFF!!!

[quotefd73b86884="skooter22c"]thats the other kicker on this forum, for some people it is just another way to make a few bucks. If you are an offer slut that is one thing but if you are here to get referrals for free stuff try trading. The whole idea ia getting free stuff not buying stuff. Ok so some offers cost money so I might pay you the actual cost to do the offer but there has to be a line. WE ARE ALL HERE TO GET FREE STUFF!!![/quotefd73b86884]

[quotefd73b86884="dudelovesFinch1035"][quotefd73b86884="good2speed"][quotefd73b86884="dudelovesFinch1035"][quotefd73b86884="good2speed"][quotefd73b86884="dudelovesFinch1035"]So Celicas a scammer? i did his/hers get5friends.com ([/quotefd73b86884]

good luck dude. No guarantees. What do you get in return? Hope its not for freepay since he prolly did that already and would have to create a mult account for that.

BTW Im almost certain hed be banned by no0w if Sweed was still a mod[/quotefd73b86884]He'd said he'd do my freephotoipods cry[/quotefd73b86884]

uh oh. I can almost certainly assure you hes done that already. Hes already admitted to being a proxy user so expect a dup account for this dude to be done

Why did you green first?you have 1 he has 0[/quotefd73b86884]That was for another trade,on here since i dont got 2+ my other trades were worthless cry[/quotefd73b86884]



That is why we need the 2+ TR Rule.

Everything Cool

[quoteadde049bab="wishwell85"]This site is going to die way down again when A4F resumes people are just here because they need a couple trades in the mean time. I personally think the rule is bogus, I have traded with A4F people on here because I recognize the name from A4F and know they are credible but they are just as low in TRs as I am, I have completed 10 trades on this site so far and have no TR[/quoteadde049bab] then get out of here if you dont like this site and its only for the mean time. And this site was very popular before A4F went down so shutup.

i swear you people come here from another site and immediatly start talking shit. Our TR system is prolle the best and most effective in dealing with situations that arise but its not good enough for you noobs. We have rules here and they are very easy to read and if that would have been done there would be no problems. So please keep your bitching to yourselves and if you dont like it just leave.

The TR system IS NOT the end-all-be-all. It's intention from day one is to be a general guide. There is no substitute for common sense.

It's true that trades between <2TR users are not credited. That's a rule. But to say that this means you "can't" trade like that is ridiculous. Clearly, a lot of you HAVE done that, and you're still here. You wont get TR, but that doesn't mean you can't keep trading.

As I said, TR is supposed to be merely a guide. There are plenty of trades that go on without ever touching the trade module. It's there to help. It's not a requirement.

I understand a lot of you are from other sites and are used to doing things a certain way, but we run things a little tighter around here. This is our way of doing things, which we have arrived at after running this trading forum for something like 8-9 months. For a member who joined a week ago to suggest that they know more about running this place than me or another moderator is not only absurd, it's frankly insulting.

Stoid, obviously rules are rules and people follow them or you would not be the moderator of a site. I made my point to show that the rule is not all inclusive. Do I have another solution right now so I am not going to get into it. It is also clear that the rules are not scaring people away because the site is stronger then ever. If it really bothers someone they will leave. But for the rest who just want to complain, well they are everywhere. The site works well but I would not call it perfect....and we will leave it at that.

[quoteac9fc05ff5="skooter22c"]yes but at the same time there is such a flux of users that are 5, 10 and higher who have done all the sites out there and most of the offers. So if I am a newbie and want to trade referral for referral and can't afford to pay someone for a referral then I am out of luck. But if two newbies come in and are both ready to trade referral for referral then why shoul dthey be banned from trading in the module. That is why we have the scammers list, all the TR does is build some trust but is not the end all to scamming. I now have a TR of 9, does that mean I can't scam someone....No! So I can see why you are trying to protect people from scammers but it is also hurting newbies who want to trade. I would have a TR of 12 right now if it was not for that rule b/c I did 3 trade early on with another newbie. That is just my two sense for what it is worth![/quoteac9fc05ff5]

No, that makes no sense. People are joining every day, so members that joined a small while ago will trade refs with people who just joined, and veteran members will pay offer-whores to do their site. And veterans will be able to do newer sites.

But I do think that we should change the TR rule to +3 or so.

[quote2053979676="Stroid"][quote2053979676="wishwell85"]This site is going to die way down again when A4F resumes people are just here because they need a couple trades in the mean time. I personally think the rule is bogus, I have traded with A4F people on here because I recognize the name from A4F and know they are credible but they are just as low in TRs as I am, I have completed 10 trades on this site so far and have no TR[/quote2053979676] then get out of here if you dont like this site and its only for the mean time. And this site was very popular before A4F went down so shutup.

i swear you people come here from another site and immediatly start talking shit[/size2053979676].[/color2053979676] Our TR system is prolle the best and most effective in dealing with situations that arise but its not good enough for you noobs. We have rules here and they are very easy to read and if that would have been done there would be no problems. So please keep your bitching to yourselves and if you dont like it just leave.[/quote2053979676]

Its crazy. Do they expect us to change a rule for them that each one of us had to do ourselves. I had trade record 0 when I joined and did a trade retardedly with another user who was also a 0 tr. He duped me into believing he had points coming to him so I went first and got scammed. After that incident I made it certain to trade with members only with a +5 or better. I had a few bad incidents with a few banned memebers cc40 and dark ancient who were very high traders and I got scammed out of money, not a green but money, but am still on this site.

Basically what Im saying is that the sytem here works and doesnt need to be fixed or tuned. And to ask us to change our methods after we all we did it ourselves is just ridiculous. Fact is seniority in the site does matter. Older members who have been here longer and have repeatedly completed their ends of trades are given certain privilidges such as deciding who should go first in a trade.

[quote2053979676="Admin"]The TR system IS NOT the end-all-be-all. It's intention from day one is to be a general guide. There is no substitute for common sense.

It's true that trades between <2TR users are not credited. That's a rule. But to say that this means you "can't" trade like that is ridiculous. Clearly, a lot of you HAVE done that, and you're still here. You wont get TR, but that doesn't mean you can't keep trading.

As I said, TR is supposed to be merely a guide. There are plenty of trades that go on without ever touching the trade module. It's there to help. It's not a requirement.

I understand a lot of you are from other sites and are used to doing things a certain way, but we run things a little tighter around here. This is our way of doing things, which we have arrived at after running this trading forum for something like 8-9 months. For a member who joined a week ago to suggest that they know more about running this place than me or another moderator is not only absurd, it's frankly insulting.[/size2053979676][/color2053979676][/quote2053979676]

Nuff said

[quote2053979676="CoMpFrEaK"]raise it to 50!
errr
lol[/quote2053979676]

Great idea

i agree. we have earned our rights, seniority, or whatever you want to call it. the rules should not be changed. without rules we would end up like a4f (no offense) with sigs that take up half a page and shit like that. we have that rule in place for your benefit. you can do what you want.

I Love this site over the 2 other sites i tryed out a4f and refferalsomething(idk the name) i like this the best also i paid 9.99 for referral site got it back tho. This site is great, its trade system is great ), love the mods, site, and people. That is why i donated b/c i want to do my part to make sure this site stays up, aleast the money part.

I don't really agree with this rule. I traded with patwalls99, and both of us are established traders at anything4free. I had been wondering why my TR didn't increase.

[quoteb64bfaf7a0="willr91"]I don't really agree with this rule. I traded with patwalls99, and both of us are established traders at anything4free. I had been wondering why my TR didn't increase.[/quoteb64bfaf7a0]

oh stfu.

An admin and a senior mod said no chance. Why are you still arguing.

If you didnt get the memo. Your standing or reputation at a4f means absolutely nothing here.

Plus if a4f was still up and FIg was down and we asked you guys to change your rules you would all laugh at us.

[quote048fc9b545="willr91"]I don't really agree with this rule. I traded with patwalls99, and both of us are established traders at anything4free. I had been wondering why my TR didn't increase.[/quote048fc9b545]May i point out had you actually read the rules you wouldve known why?

Yea I'm 4 now and once i was 2 tr two of my trades were under me -\

I can appreciate where some n00bs come from--I was brand-n00b myself three weeks ago. But the old adage "ignorance of the law is no excuse for breaking it" definitely applies here.

My first week in, I did a trade with another n00b, but I knew the risk involved. Thankfully, it worked out, but you better believe I didn't ask for a TR+...because I had read the rules.

There really isn't much point in demanding as an outsider (or relative newcomer) that a community change its rules, especially if the change would seem only to benefit you. But what blows my mind about these demands and complaints is that the 2+ TR minimum benefits n00bs--even though we go first, we're given a pool of reputable traders to work with.

The rules here don't seem to me to be designed to give those with well-established records some unfair advantage over newcomers to the site. They serve to keep the trading fair for everyone.

[quote3893591677="willr91"]I don't really agree with this rule. I traded with patwalls99, and both of us are established traders at anything4free. I had been wondering why my TR didn't increase.[/quote3893591677]

And here's the other thing - Have we not yet established that trade records from other sites mean nothing?! Gearlive, A4F, FiPG - records from here do not and should not transfer anywhere. Why should it apply here?

[quoteb0772da53d="Godrockdj"][quoteb0772da53d="willr91"]I don't really agree with this rule. I traded with patwalls99, and both of us are established traders at anything4free. I had been wondering why my TR didn't increase.[/quoteb0772da53d]

And here's the other thing - Have we not yet established that trade records from other sites mean nothing?! Gearlive, A4F, FiPG - records from here do not and should not transfer anywhere. Why should it apply here?[/quoteb0772da53d]

But in Urkmenistan, I am a prince!!!!!!

[quoted06fffe9f4="KeithA"][quoted06fffe9f4="Godrockdj"][quoted06fffe9f4="willr91"]I don't really agree with this rule. I traded with patwalls99, and both of us are established traders at anything4free. I had been wondering why my TR didn't increase.[/quoted06fffe9f4]

And here's the other thing - Have we not yet established that trade records from other sites mean nothing?! Gearlive, A4F, FiPG - records from here do not and should not transfer anywhere. Why should it apply here?[/quoted06fffe9f4]

But in Urkmenistan, I am a prince!!!!!![/quoted06fffe9f4]

and im the president of the USA roll

[quote2f8b3d56da="Stroid"][quote2f8b3d56da="wishwell85"]This site is going to die way down again when A4F resumes people are just here because they need a couple trades in the mean time. I personally think the rule is bogus, I have traded with A4F people on here because I recognize the name from A4F and know they are credible but they are just as low in TRs as I am, I have completed 10 trades on this site so far and have no TR[/quote2f8b3d56da] then get out of here if you dont like this site and its only for the mean time. And this site was very popular before A4F went down so shutup.

i swear you people come here from another site and immediatly start talking shit. Our TR system is prolle the best and most effective in dealing with situations that arise but its not good enough for you noobs. We have rules here and they are very easy to read and if that would have been done there would be no problems. So please keep your bitching to yourselves and if you dont like it just leave.[/quote2f8b3d56da]

Well said.

couldnt u just trade with a 0 person now if u were 0 and than once u have +2 feedback request feedback from that trade later on?

no.

you dont get +TR based on what your TR might be in the future, you get it for what it is at the time of the trade.

what you are talking about is called TR inflation and its against the rules.

I'm a newbie....what is TR?

Try reading the stickied thread called "NEWBIE'S GUIDE TO TRADING"