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This is getting ridiculous. Trading for referrals or money should be a rather simple and painless process. I normally try to do a quick background check on the people I trade with and look for post count, quality of posts, attitude when dealing with previous traders, etc. Unfortunately I accepted a trade request from [bfce58a8445]cartrenroy [=http//forum.freeipodguide.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3385]cartrenroy [/bfce58a8445]and he’s got my balls in a vice because I’ve already gone green for him. A background check didn’t yield anything especially unsettling but there’s only so much you can learn about a person over the internet. I’ve found that trading with people off freeipodguide has actually been easier than initiating trades on the forum.

I normally try to be polite and concise when trading and make sure to convey a genuine interest in making the trade 100% fair. I don’t ask for anything outrageous and I’m a pretty flexible person. It’s when I come across a retard like [bfce58a8445]cartrenroy [=http//forum.freeipodguide.com/profile.php?mode=viewprofile&u=3385]cartrenroy [/bfce58a8445] that I start to get a bad taste in my mouth. He was extremely talkative when we began talking about the trade and when I was signing up under him and completing an offer. It’s when I said “Ok, I’m all done!” that he totally abandoned the conversation and started being curt in his private message replies. The second message he sent me was down right offensive and antagonistic. Now his only response is that I'm a noob. I say that trade record isn’t a reliable way to tell whether or not someone is a “good” trader. Sure, it’s a quick way to determine how much experience someone has with trading but it says nothing about the quality of trade they provide. I know I probably speak on behalf of most when I say that I don’t enjoy being jerked around and having demands thrown at me. Like I said, he’s got the upper hand in the trade right now because I’ve already gone green for him – I’m at his retarded mercy.

It’s such a simple process, why does it have to become so complicated with some people? A perfect example of a “good” trader is imanust who was very understanding and pleasant to deal with. Believe me, your tact and good attitude don’t go unnoticed in risky transactions like these. I paid him $25.00 for a referral and he signed up immediately and completed an offer. Unfortunately Lifederma didn’t credit my account so the money was refunded, which he graciously did.

I’ve stopped being polite to cartrenroy because his responses to me definitely don’t warrant any respect from me. This is such a simple process and can happen in a matter of days. When I read that people have waited weeks for lazy and uninterested traders to finally get around to honoring their end of the agreement, my fucking blood boils. Dicksmokes like these should suffer an eternity in fire and brimstone for the inconvenience they’ve caused the honest traders out there.

I’d rather have absolutely nothing to do with people like this even if it means getting greens from them. The thought that my contribution somehow landed a person like this a free product makes my anus clench. For all of you that have dealt with people like this and even worse, have been scammed, at least take comfort in the fact that your not totally alone in your loathing and hate for them.

It doesn’t take a brain surgeon or a high trade record to grasp the concept of successful trades. If you’re looking for an honest and friendly trader who will pay or signup for you, shoot me a PM. Be careful who you trade with!

That wasnt worth reading... liar

I knew some witty individual such as your self who obviously possess such staggering intellect would say that.

Good one!

By the way, I cancelled my offer but it's been over 4 days so he'll undoubtedly still get credit for my signup. Now he's decided not to honor his portion of the agreement. I suppose that would qualify him for a nice shiny spot on the bad traders list.

I have never liked cartenroy, he has such an attitude, and he is incredibly dumb. When anyone ever asks me if they should trade with him I say no..Turns out my thoughts about him are coming true.

W/E - you can do w/e you want.


But you forget many stuff on your story. you forget the PM's[b021c236522] "I will cancel right now before it turns green"[/b021c236522]

and why do you want to cancel, just because I didn't answer you for an hour- WHY? hey - I have stuff to do, I was busy.

I'll can post every PM and AIM from you, you are freaking retarded, can you just wait like a day to get an answer, just because I didn't reply for 1 hour it doesn't mean I am a scammer

Never once have I accused you have scamming. I believe that you are probably one of the more honest traders here on the forums but I also believe that you're the rudest peice of shit I've encountered yet. I'm glad I don't stand alone on this.

Get it together man. You very inept when it comes to dealing with people. Don't be testy and rude and things will go fine for you.

Yeah, I had a bad experience with cartrenroy too. We decided to do a trade where I would have my friend be his ref.

I have my friend sign up and then he says,
"Yes, he singed up, but Why, I already got all the people I need."

What are you talking about. You PM me telling me, hey you still need referrals for freepsps.com - and then you say, Oh by the way, I gave my friend your link and he signed up.


What was that, did I PM you telling your friend to sign up, NO, then why should I give green, common. So I can just go green for someone - no matter if the guy it's done and [bc76c41e89d]HE/SHE Must[/bc76c41e89d] turn green for me. No


[quotec76c41e89d="mr0x"]Yeah, I had a bad experience with cartrenroy too. We decided to do a trade where I would have my friend be his ref.

I have my friend sign up and then he says,
"Yes, he singed up, but Why, I already got all the people I need."[/quotec76c41e89d]

Yea, he had his friend sign up under me too but he never completed an offer. Damn, I guess I'm REALLY not alone on this. I'm glad I posted something. I hope this helps other people avoid his paramount stupidity and deceitfulness.

I'm still looking for two GOOD traders that would be interested in either 25.00 or for a signup of something other than freeipods, freepsps, and freeipodshuffles.

Rude, wha do you want me to do, if you complaint and shit just because I was not able to answer you. common, think about it, your reaction was freaking dumb


[quotecd6481cba9="stoavio"]Never once have I accused you have scamming. I believe that you are probably one of the more honest traders here on the forums but I also believe that you're the rudest peice of shit I've encountered yet. I'm glad I don't stand alone on this.

Get it together man. You very inept when it comes to dealing with people. Don't be testy and rude and things will go fine for you.[/quotecd6481cba9]

I must speak in defense of cartrenroy. I have completed I believe 2 trades with him and I am compelled to fight the above statements against him. He has not sfcrewed me over once.

+1 for Cartrenroy
-1 for the loud mouthed newbie who tries to win us over with extensive vocabulary. Intelect is nothing, this is just about honoring your word.

Hey stoavio, PM me and we will discuss nuclear proliferation during the cold war.

I am only 16, I have seen my share of dumbasses, and cartrenroy does not qualify as one.

Nextel. Done.

...what sites do you need?

[quote4eaf1ef511="cartrenroy"]What are you talking about. You PM me telling me, hey you still need referrals for freepsps.com - and then you say, Oh by the way, I gave my friend your link and he signed up.


What was that, did I PM you telling your friend to sign up, NO, then why should I give green, common. So I can just go green for someone - no matter if the guy it's done and [b4eaf1ef511]HE/SHE Must[/b4eaf1ef511] turn green for me. No


[quote4eaf1ef511="mr0x"]Yeah, I had a bad experience with cartrenroy too. We decided to do a trade where I would have my friend be his ref.

I have my friend sign up and then he says,
"Yes, he singed up, but Why, I already got all the people I need."[/quote4eaf1ef511][/quote4eaf1ef511]

Ok man, enough. People like your really give a bad rap to communities like this. People are skeptical enough of sending money and doing things for people over the internet. You're a strong contributor to the reason why.

[quote79edfbae2d="cartrenroy"] You PM me telling me, hey you still need referrals for freepsps.com - and then you say, Oh by the way, I gave my friend your link and he signed up.[/quote79edfbae2d]

Haha, you must have said yes you do need referrals, how else did he get your link?

Maybe I am rude - but only with stupid guys like this one. is not my fault, it's hard for me to say the stuff correctly, English it's my 3rd Language - but the thing is that this guy is freaking annoying, think about it, just because I didn't answered to his AIM - because I was busy, he complained, common, be serious


[quotee2cb4e3396="clearestchannel40"]I must speak in defense of cartrenroy. I have completed I believe 2 trades with him and I am compelled to fight the above statements against him. He has not sfcrewed me over once.

+1 for Cartrenroy
-1 for the loud mouthed newbie who tries to win us over with extensive vocabulary. Intelect is nothing, this is just about honoring your word.

Hey stoavio, PM me and we will discuss nuclear proliferation during the cold war.

I am only 16, I have seen my share of dumbasses, and cartrenroy does not qualify as one.

Nextel. Done.[/quotee2cb4e3396]

[quoted0823f336c="cartrenroy"]What are you talking about. You PM me telling me, hey you still need referrals for freepsps.com - and then you say, Oh by the way, I gave my friend your link and he signed up.


What was that, did I PM you telling your friend to sign up, NO, then why should I give green, common. So I can just go green for someone - no matter if the guy it's done and [bd0823f336c]HE/SHE Must[/bd0823f336c] turn green for me. No


[quoted0823f336c="mr0x"]Yeah, I had a bad experience with cartrenroy too. We decided to do a trade where I would have my friend be his ref.

I have my friend sign up and then he says,
"Yes, he singed up, but Why, I already got all the people I need."[/quoted0823f336c][/quoted0823f336c]

You IMed me, you said you wanted to trade and you gave me your ref link on AIM to me.

Don't tell me that wasn't you on AIM because you sent a PM confirming your identity on AIM.

You scammed me, plain and simple! Your defense of broken english and nonsencial sentences isn't going to work!

I asked hi to do freepsps.com

he rpelies to me like a month after that telling me his friend signed up for me, I am done with freepsps.com - what am I supposed to do


[quoted2945158bf="sweeedfish"][quoted2945158bf="cartrenroy"] You PM me telling me, hey you still need referrals for freepsps.com - and then you say, Oh by the way, I gave my friend your link and he signed up.[/quoted2945158bf][/quoted2945158bf]

Haha, you must have said yes you do need referrals, how else did he get your link?

[quote2ac9088fdf="cartrenroy"]I asked hi to do freepsps.com

he rpelies to me like a month after that telling me his friend signed up for me, I am done with freepsps.com - what am I supposed to do


[quote2ac9088fdf="sweeedfish"][quote2ac9088fdf="cartrenroy"] You PM me telling me, hey you still need referrals for freepsps.com - and then you say, Oh by the way, I gave my friend your link and he signed up.[/quote2ac9088fdf][/quote2ac9088fdf]

Haha, you must have said yes you do need referrals, how else did he get your link?[/quote2ac9088fdf]

A month? It was 2 days!

My english stuff has nothing to do with this, I said I was rude and I cannot say the stuff correctly - read carefully.


And I asked you, not your friend. that was a long time ago,


And your friend didn't even turn green, so why are you complaining

[quote05051bfb2e]You IMed me, you said you wanted to trade and you gave me your ref link on AIM to me.

Don't tell me that wasn't you on AIM because you sent a PM confirming your identity on AIM.

You scammed me, plain and simple! Your defense of broken english and nonsencial sentences isn't going to work![/quote05051bfb2e]

[quote31eabf1ee5="clearestchannel40"]I must speak in defense of cartrenroy. I have completed I believe 2 trades with him and I am compelled to fight the above statements against him. He has not sfcrewed me over once.

+1 for Cartrenroy
-1 for the loud mouthed newbie who tries to win us over with extensive vocabulary. Intelect is nothing, this is just about honoring your word.

Hey stoavio, PM me and we will discuss nuclear proliferation during the cold war.

I am only 16, I have seen my share of dumbasses, and cartrenroy does not qualify as one.

Nextel. Done.[/quote31eabf1ee5]

My intent isn't to impress anyone with my vocabulary but since you've taken notice, it's obvious I've at least impressed you. I'll take the above as a compliment.

Right now I'm looking for two freeipod.com refs. I'm paying 25.00 for each and/or willing to trade.

Not everyone is going to agree with me that is fine. My point still stands; cartrenroy is nothing but a liability to the community. If it weren't for him and people like him, people wouldn't be so incredulous of the whole trading process.

[b31eabf1ee5]-1[/b31eabf1ee5] for the 16 your old boy imitating a cunning linguist.

[quote0c2f329885="cartrenroy"]My english stuff has nothing to do with this, I said I was rude and I cannot say the stuff correctly - read carefully.


And I asked you, not your friend. that was a long time ago,


And your friend didn't even turn green, so why are you complaining

[quote0c2f329885]You IMed me, you said you wanted to trade and you gave me your ref link on AIM to me.

Don't tell me that wasn't you on AIM because you sent a PM confirming your identity on AIM.

You scammed me, plain and simple! Your defense of broken english and nonsencial sentences isn't going to work![/quote0c2f329885][/quote0c2f329885]

First of all it was 2 days. And, I said on IM that it would take 2 days. I made that super super clear and you said yes.

He didn't turn green but he lost a ref there.

mr0x, after dealing with him first hand I'd take anyone's word over his but I don't think it's worth arguing. As you said this is plain and simple - cut and dry.

I don't want to argue this anymore. Anyone with half a brain and a little discernment can see what's really going on here. If you want a honest and quick trader WHO WILL COMMUNICATE WITH YOU - PM me. I need 2 freeipod.com refs.

FiSKARZ - you and this guy are the same thing. He completed offer - same as you - I knew he was going to turn red, I told him tha I was going to do his green until I get approved for his green - sicne he did something that it's agaisnt the rules, same with you, you told me - I will cancel right now before it turns green.

He replied telling me - We didn't trade approvals, we traded greens shock weird.

Same with you, yo told me you were going to cancel before it turns green, rules clearly say - if you cancel before period time or w/e - you account will be placed in [bda88c1c06e]HOLD[/bda88c1c06e] - ask anyone - it's true.

So why should I give you a green - which will be green forever - when you gave me a green that may turn red.

I told you - I will do your stuff it your green it's green after approval - but what happend, no I am not going to wait on your shit, blah blah blah.

I am not doing anything, you can do w/e you want. I am not doing anything for you if this turns red

[quoteda88c1c06e]My intent isn't to impress anyone with my vocabulary but since you've taken notice, it's obvious I've at least impressed you. I'll take the above as a compliment.

Right now I'm looking for two freeipod.com refs. I'm paying 25.00 for each and/or willing to trade.

Not everyone is going to agree with me that is fine. My point still stands; cartrenroy is nothing but a liability to the community. If it weren't for him and people like him, people wouldn't be so incredulous of the whole trading process.

[bda88c1c06e]-1[/bda88c1c06e] for the 16 your old boy imitating a cunning linguist[/quoteda88c1c06e]

[quote2726b0ef82="stoavio"]mr0x, after dealing with him first hand I'd take anyone's word over his but I don't think it's worth arguing. As you said this is plain and simple - cut and dry.

I don't want to argue this anymore. Anyone with half a brain and a little discernment can see what's really going on here. If you want a honest and quick trader WHO WILL COMMUNICATE WITH YOU - PM me. I need 2 freeipod.com refs.[/quote2726b0ef82]


An ANNOYING - someone that PM's you - AIM's you every freaking minute and if you don't answer for any reason he will do the same thing that he is doing with me right now[/size2726b0ef82]

Ok, sure claim what you must to fight for your rapidly declining reputation but at least I still have a chance to prove myself as a good and honest trader.

Looks like you've blown it for yourself man and I feel no pitty for you. You were a horrible trader and you wasted a weeks worth of my time.

Please stop now.

Here's my stand on this

Im a noob as well, and from seeing both sides.

Stoavio- You need to shut the hell up, and stop trying to be Dr. Phil. You seem like you have a fucking attitude, and yes, I said fuck. Was too simple of a word to understand? Please take it as a compliment, as you probably don't get many of those in the real world.

Cartenroy- You need to stop being such a little fag. English is my third language my ass. If you have troulbe with it, go back where you came from. Don't fucking blame your problems on other people.

No, why should I stop, Yes you can be a good trader, but not if you complaint for every stupid thing - Trading post is not for complaints first of all -

I have plenty of PM and AIM's form you - so why should I stop. I can clean everything with all the stuff I have/

You gave your point - 1 or 2 of them (the ones that gave support for you) but you forget the bad points from you, common you have to be a man.

[quote7d7767214f="stoavio"]Ok, sure claim what you must to fight for your rapidly declining reputation but at least I still have a chance to prove myself as a good and honest trader.

Looks like you've blown it for yourself man and I feel no pitty for you. You were a horrible trader and you wasted a weeks worth of my time.

Please stop now.[/quote7d7767214f]

[quotec2672fc10e="Lumberjacks"]Here's my stand on this

Im a noob as well, and from seeing both sides.

Stoavio- You need to shut the hell up, and stop trying to be Dr. Phil. You seem like you have a fucking attitude, and yes, I said fuck. Was too simple of a word to understand? Please take it as a compliment, as you probably don't get many of those in the real world.

Cartenroy- You need to stop being such a little fag. English is my third language my ass. If you have troulbe with it, go back where you came from. Don't fucking blame your problems on other people.[/quotec2672fc10e]


Thats the problem, I never try to justified or w/e just because of my 3rd language, I said I was rude and I didn't have a good way to explain or to answer back, common read.

[quoteca570fa887="Lumberjacks"]Here's my stand on this

Im a noob as well, and from seeing both sides.

Stoavio- You need to shut the hell up, and stop trying to be Dr. Phil. You seem like you have a fucking attitude, and yes, I said fuck. Was too simple of a word to understand? Please take it as a compliment, as you probably don't get many of those in the real world.

Cartenroy- You need to stop being such a little fag. English is my third language my ass. If you have troulbe with it, go back where you came from. Don't fucking blame your problems on other people.[/quoteca570fa887]

Thanks for your wise and invaluable input. lol

Also, a real thank you to the people that have contacted me after posting this. I'm glad this post attracted some good people.

I think that you're pulling an 8 on my piss-o-meter and he's pulling a 3. Way to go. Please, do us a favor and walk yourself into oncoming traffic. Thanks!

16 year old trying to be a cunning linguist. Very deep. I am indeed 16, but shall we allow that to denote my character? I hold a sturdy trade record of 18 and you hold nothing. I believe that I have proved myself behind the scenes to be a reputable trader and need not attempt to be a "cunning linguist" why is that? You type with proper english, are you not trying to be a "cunning linguist".

Oh yeah, shut up!

Have no idea why I m posting here. Prolly in my quest to get the most negative karma possible. I also just realized I have nothing constructive to say here but feel compelled to say something since I just read through this garbage. Well anyways isn't this suppose to be in bad traders section and anyone who uses w/e to abbreviate whatever is either a young teenage american girl or has moderate control of the language. Im waiting for dude to go into his Sammy Sosa face and pretend like he has no idea what your talking about. Anyways like I said nothing important here but if you happen to read this and you are not the arguer and the arguee in this thread (exception to Mrox he's cool) please dont make a post about my actions here. If it has been more than a week and I havent obliged to my terms of the agreement please feel free to post me in bad traders section. I am busy I work, but when given time I will reply to all of your messagesand will complete my end of the deal. Peace.

And you sound like a good trader!

Clearestchannel You're absolutely right, I don't have a trade record yet (well, one trade is still pending) but I don't sit on freeipodguide all day trying to establish one either. I've been waiting on the two which I thought were in progress and as it turned out, neither of them were.

I think I've made my point. Clearestchannel, it's too bad you had to chime in with such negativity in your first post because your first impression on not only me but other people here was probably a bad one. I can see my assumption about the impressions you make on people is pretty accurate based on your negative karma level.

Oh well, I will continue to post and trade on!

Sounds interesting.