LAPTOP RECEIVED

YAY! it came.....will post pics later!

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Yay! Congrats

that's strong to quite strong. congratulations.

if anyone needs an autotech4free or ds4free ref, let me know.

How is the laptop because i am not sure which one to choose. I like the HP one. D Congrats by the way.

That is pretty hot man, congrats. Enjoy that thing it looks pretty sweet. I need just 3 more refs for my $1000 paypal!

i really like the laptop.....im not gunna use it for much if any gaming.

and it has the dvd burner and the 80 gig hd.

plus all the options are nice.

i like it a lot

Oh man, you're killing me here. )

I have 201 yellows and 2 greens, and I'm afraid your laptop will be a Model T by the time I complete...

But still...Very nice. (Post more pics when you get the chance, because I'm a masochist) ;)

heh ok ill take some more pics...and godluck on geting more referrals.


try reminding people to click the "i have completed this offer" button

i dont think that will be considered walking the person thru.

i dunno if you've seen the pics i posted here....if not check em out.


http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=7777


ill still take more if you want.

Nah, I missed those at first, but it wouldn't help much to ask for more, because your camera is almost as grainy as mine. )

Thanks for posting those.

OK NEW CLEAR PIX.....i "borrowed" my roomates digicam =)


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And i took this pic with my 20gig ipod ontop to show how thin the lappy really is!
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also........ see the two buttons abovethey keypad?....one is the POWEr button and one is the ON/OFF togge for the build int wireless, i found that to be very usefull.

LUCKY!

My God......that's beautiful. )

Goddamn, I need referrals.

Lunar, did you notice any jacks for an external wireless antenna? (In the manual?)

If so, I'll have a cantenna knocked together by the time I complete. D

I'm still deciding $$ or iBook? I think it's going to be the $$ to save up for a Powerbook G5 when they come out. Only got one more day to think about it (last should green tomorrow!).

i'd take the $1000 and cough up the $500 and get a powerbook.

Yeah, I'm getting a Mac Mini too, so I can wait until the Powerbook G5 comes out.

[quote1d06f8192d="Tholek"]My God......that's beautiful. )

Goddamn, I need referrals.

Lunar, did you notice any jacks for an external wireless antenna? (In the manual?)

If so, I'll have a cantenna knocked together by the time I complete. D[/quote1d06f8192d]


well the antennaon it is very good...i just happen to be far (like 3-5miles) from any wireless networks. The comp still picks them up...just doesnt have more then 1 bar of signal. My roomates lappy with same wireless doesnt pick any up at all.

Nice laptop. I may have enough greens on monday. I'm stil deciding over the Averatec P4 Notebook or Athlon Notebook. I'm kind of torn since the Averatec P4 Notebook has a pretty big screen, fast cpu and decent graphics card but the athlon one is much more portable and has a lot better battery life.

actually ive read it doesnt have much better bat life.


if ur gunna game with any semi-new games....choose the pentium.

if your looking for true laptop features (portability....lightness...etc etc) choose the AMD

or take the 1000$ and throw in ur own 500$ give or take and buy one you want

The Pentium is [bb4286402e4]NOT[/bb4286402e4] a mobile processor, is not made for the laptop, and will drain the battery more.

The RADEON video is the P4HT's main selling point, but I don't think it's enough to top the AMD.

Yes i understand its not made for lappies, but the fact is the AMD guzzles batt aswell, check reviews and forums both lappies have average batt live of 2.5-3hours max

Sorry, I meant that for "the masses". D

Yeah, both suck on battery life, but the AMD will probably last a few minutes more ;)

[quoteb6f22b8269="J@ck@l"]How is the laptop because i am not sure which one to choose. I like the HP one. D Congrats by the way.[/quoteb6f22b8269]

I haven't even come close to getting all my referrals on this one, but the last one I'd recommend is the HP. Note the little popup info box says that it's a refurb model. Not only that, but my friends with Pavilion laptops complain about them a lot. They have stability issues and they are very heavy. If you want a Windows machine, get the Avartec AMD. The last thing you want is a 6lb laptop you can't carry everywhere.

Either that, or just get the cash and buy one with specs to your liking.

@Podtopia/Tholek - battery life depends on other stuff too (wireless, optical drive, and display usage), but in general a P4 laptop used like a P4 (e.g. more gaming and CPU-heavy apps) will have less battery life than a Centrino/Athlon Mobile. The P4s in laptops are designed for laptops, but the technology in general requires more power and generates more heat. It can also simply end up making the notebook unnecessarily heavy, because the processor requires extra space for heat dissipation. If you really need a desktop-replacement type of machine (e.g. don't have a desktop computer), then the P4 MIGHT be better...doesn't seem worth it to me, though.

Lunar - would you mind posting a mini-review touching on some basic aspects of this thing (screen quality, keyboard quality, portability, performance impressions)? I was going to get $1000 paypal, but after seeing your computer I am thinking about switching to the 3250. That thing looks sweet and would be great for getting around with a computer.

Ok ill review what i can...but i havent used it much because the internet connection where im at is passworded by computer id and only one is allowed per apt. So i cant get on with my lappy AND desktop at sametime.

Anyways......

After i took the lappy out of the box and was in the process of letting it charge i carefully looked it over and noticed some neat stuff.
First thing i noticed was the actual casing of the computer. Overall everything felt sturdy and cold-metallic. Although i would not want to drop any laptop (well maybe an Apple P ) I decided that if dropped this laptop would probably fare decently. If dropped on the screen side it probably would not fare aswell as the main body side.
Second thing i noticed was that the main heat dispensing fan actually has 2 holes. One that sucks in air (bottom of laptop) and one that pushes the air out (back of laptop). As ive only had one laptop before and it was ANCIENT this was a new feature for me. And i like it.
Third thing i noticed was the keyboard size, every key is FULL SIZE with the exception of a few side keys...definatly a plus.
The third thing i noticed was the aboundance of options available for the laptop. There are 3 usb ports on the side ofthe lappy, the DVD writer, a monitor port, LAN port, modem port, headphone jack, mic jack, and volume controll, AND spare empty slot. (not sure what size the slot is tecnically speaking but its the size to fit aftermarket wireless adapters)....oh and asmall hole for a laptop-lock.

After i let it charge a few more hours i was ready to start it up and see what it could do.....
Startup went fine, and windows registration was fine..etc etc everything ship shape. (and if it wasnt they included the software to be able to reforamt anyways)
Now that ive started it up i can review on the some other stuff......

Screen when i got the laptop i was afraid of getting dead pixels.....i didint get a single one. ( i HATE dead pixels) the screen does however have a very VerY slight bluish hue to it. Not really noticable unless you read this review most likely. ( i read it from a previous review) Overall i think the screen is fine....no other laptop could be any better, unless it was a hi-def style screen.

Touchpad i hate touchpads, always have...always will. This touchpad asfar as touchpads go is fine. Like normaly touchpads you just haveta make sure your applying the correct pressure to it, and your mouse wont skip around. Given its not uber-sensitive like the ipod wheel, but its still effective and fine.

DVD Burner havent tried this yet, due to lack of blank dvd's and media on the new laptop to burn. But the software included for the Burner looks very simple and professional.

HardDrive Although this harddrive is a "slow" model of laptop HD's unless your a mega-gamer or dvd-ripping fanatic i do not think you'll notice a big loss in preformance.

Processor 2200+ when using this latop you must take into consideration that this chip is only a 1.2ghz chip. If you want the super-power-speed-money....go with the Pentium offered.

Other Misc. Buttons

Wireless ON/OFF Toggle probably one of my favorite options on this laptop. Enables you to turn on andoff the wireless built in card. So like in my case if the wireless networks around you are either weak or not trustworthy....you just simply tap the button and lipoofli your offline.


when i get around to using it more ( i will be very soon because as i wrote this review i called up my main office and they enabeled my connection for 2 pc's) i will be editing and adding to the review.


Feel free to ask any specific questions and ill do my best to answer them.

[quoteceb2f9ff89="shifuimam"][quoteceb2f9ff89="J@ck@l"]How is the laptop because i am not sure which one to choose. I like the HP one. D Congrats by the way.[/quoteceb2f9ff89]

I haven't even come close to getting all my referrals on this one, but the last one I'd recommend is the HP. Note the little popup info box says that it's a refurb model. Not only that, but my friends with Pavilion laptops complain about them a lot. They have stability issues and they are very heavy. If you want a Windows machine, get the Avartec AMD. The last thing you want is a 6lb laptop you can't carry everywhere.

Either that, or just get the cash and buy one with specs to your liking.

@Podtopia/Tholek - battery life depends on other stuff too (wireless, optical drive, and display usage), but in general a P4 laptop used like a P4 (e.g. more gaming and CPU-heavy apps) will have less battery life than a Centrino/Athlon Mobile. The P4s in laptops are designed for laptops, but the technology in general requires more power and generates more heat. It can also simply end up making the notebook unnecessarily heavy, because the processor requires extra space for heat dissipation. If you really need a desktop-replacement type of machine (e.g. don't have a desktop computer), then the P4 MIGHT be better...doesn't seem worth it to me, though.[/quoteceb2f9ff89]



exactly.....i have a desktop already

pentium 2.4e ghz
ASUS P4c800-e AI motherboard 800mhz bus
2gig of ram
2 120gig HD's
Radeon 9800 Pro 128mb vid card

so ....i was looking for a true laptop

small/mobile/lightweight...and the 80gig hd was a big bonus.

I'm either going to go with this averatec laptop or take the cash and get a dell 700m i think. I want a 12" notebook that I can carry around easily that still has a decent amount of power.

By the way, I thought the 2200+ was a 1.6GHz processor?

ok...mebbe its 1.6 oops

[quotebfac3bb7f5="Lunarpancake"]ok...mebbe its 1.6 oops[/quotebfac3bb7f5]

haha, its ok. I just wanted to make sure this wasn't like freedesktoppcs.com where people have been getting computers which are not like the ones pictured.

[quote0363677ff4="ENGRDawg"][quote0363677ff4="Lunarpancake"]ok...mebbe its 1.6 oops[/quote0363677ff4]

haha, its ok. I just wanted to make sure this wasn't like freedesktoppcs.com where people have been getting computers which are not like the ones pictured.[/quote0363677ff4]


If i hadnt gotten what i wanted and had waited 3 weeks for it like i had to for my lappy...i woulda be furious.

[quote6acd4b795c="shifuimam"]The P4s in laptops are designed for laptops[/quote6acd4b795c]

I thought that was the Pentium-M, not the P4? ?

[quote6acd4b795c="Lunarpancake"]The third thing i noticed was the aboundance of options available for the laptop. There are 3 usb ports on the side ofthe lappy, the DVD writer, a monitor port, LAN port, modem port, headphone jack, mic jack, and volume controll, AND spare empty slot. (not sure what size the slot is tecnically speaking but its the size to fit aftermarket wireless adapters)....oh and asmall hole for a laptop-lock.[/quote6acd4b795c]

I think you mean the PCMCIA slot. (Can be used for other non-wireless cards too)

Tholek yes thats it thanks

PCMCIA slot.


all i knew is aftermarket wireless cards for lappies usually go tru there, if not thru the usb

This reminds me of a question I've had for a long time....

People who've had dialup may remember something called "Multilink", an option most people never used, but allowed you to use two modems in tandem to connect to the same ISP (if they supported it), and double your 56k speed.

Now I wondered if the same was possible with wi-fi, and googled about it, but all I could find were references to the channel bonding in 802.11g

What I'd love to know is if you can use 2 adapters on one PC to double the speed or not?

If so, lunar may be able to use that slot after all.... ;)

[quote1846db526e="Tholek"][quote1846db526e="shifuimam"]The P4s in laptops are designed for laptops[/quote1846db526e]

I thought that was the Pentium-M, not the P4? ?[/quote1846db526e]

There are two different lines of processors designed by Intel for laptops - the mobile Pentium 4 and the Pentium M. The Pentium M is part of what classifies a laptop as Centrino...Centrino laptops also have the 855 chipset (which is specifically designed for the Pentium M) and a B, B/G, or A/B/G Intel PRO/Wireless internal wireless card.

Pentium 4 mobile processors are rated the same as desktop processors, so most are between 2.0 and 3.0 GHz. Pentium M processors, because of the way they are engineered and how they work hand-in-hand with the specialized chipset, are rated differently. You can generally multiply the processor speed by two in order to get the effective processor speed. Because of this, most Centrino laptops are rated between 1.3 and 2.0 GHz.

I would imagine the AMD mobile processor is modeled after the Pentium M (it's just AMD's version). If this is the case, that processor can be considered to run at 2.4 GHz, not 1.2 GHz.

Centrino laptops aren't the BEST for gaming, but laptops in general shouldn't be used if you're a serious gamer. If you're looking for a gaming machine, take the $1000 and either build your own or buy yourself a high-end Dell desktop (preferably from the OptiPlex line - not the Dimensions).

The biggest problem with using a mobile Pentium 4 compared to a Pentium M is the size and heat. The P4s DO generate more heat, and they get hot more quickly. Don't get me wrong - the Pentium M gets pretty hot too. Mine usually hovers around 45deg. Celsius when I'm running processor-heavy applications (usually Photoshop and Dreamweaver)...but because it's smaller processor and designed for a laptop, it doesn't require near as much heat dissipation as a mobile Pentium 4.

You'll likely see that laptops with a P4 are heavier and thicker than those with a Pentium M. They have to be that way, to allow for the extra heat generated by the Pentium 4 (that and it's cheaper to make them like that).

Another supercool nice thing about the new Centrino 2 (Pentium M 2) chip is that it has 2MB L2 cache (for awhile, it was the only Intel processor in both the desktop and mobile lines that had that much cache!), so it will run even faster than a comparable mobile Pentium 4. I don't know that I can say the same for the AMD version of Centrino.

In general though, if you want a laptop, you should be getting either Centrino or the AMD version (I have nothing against AMD processors; I just prefer Intel myself). If this is going to be your ONLY computer and you NEED to be able to move it easily (e.g. college student going home on holidays, etc), then you can consider a mobile Pentium 4, but be aware that it will be heavier and more unweildy (usually 6-10 pounds) than a Centrino laptop (usually 4-6 pounds).

[edit]
I know it's not an option from Notebooks4Free, but...

Another thing to note is that Celeron-M processors are based off of the Pentium M but have less cache (usually 512k), while Celeron processors are based off of the Pentium 4 (and have less cache, etc).

Celerons are actually rejected Pentium 4s and Ms - if they don't run at the rated clock speed, they're labelled Celeron and sold for less[/edit]

you can build a TOP OF THE LINE gaming pc (without monitor, keyboard, or mouse) for about 700-900$ MAX

[quotee7d8c0f7b8="Lunarpancake"]you can build a TOP OF THE LINE gaming pc (without monitor, keyboard, or mouse) for about 700-900$ MAX[/quotee7d8c0f7b8]

heck yeah - and you can get an LCD monitor and a nice keyboard/mouse from free sites! )

damn str8!

Sweet. I think I'm gonna pick the P4 Averatec one. It has the widescreen format which I want.

[quoteae8b93d7be="J4320"]Sweet. I think I'm gonna pick the P4 Averatec one. It has the widescreen format which I want.[/quoteae8b93d7be]
D Thats what I'm getting. Hopefully no referrals get rejected this time during approval.

Anyone get a Powerbook free from O.C.? That's what I'm working towards...

OC has a powerbook now?!

No, I think he's just going for the $1000 and I guess he'll buy one. It's not on there. Maybe he has it confused with the iBook.

lol

i'm 17/18 for notebooks4free.com......

come on.................................sdfgjklshfkl D

kevy i see uplaced ur order nice.....by the way if thats u in ur avatar....ur one ugly motherfuliker lol.

yes 18/18 finally!!!

now which one to choose HP looks nice so does the P4 Averatec
the 1ghz ibook 14." looks nice too!

ah what do i chooose!!!

[quote3c868adea2="Lunarpancake"]kevy i see uplaced ur order nice.....by the way if thats u in ur avatar....ur one ugly motherfuliker lol.[/quote3c868adea2]
lol thats not me in there. lol That's a joke avatar I got from gearlive.
And yes, I did place me order. D Now comes the hardest in the whole process, waiting. I would of finshed a lot sooner if they didn't dq 5 of my referrals in total.

Anyone else receive theirs lately?

I need to see more pictures....they're the only thing keeping me alive at 420 yellows....

The reviews I've read for Averatec laptops claim that they are not the best quality laptops out there... Cheap build, not sturdy, etc.

I've never used Apple before, but I think I'd rather go with a company that is known for the quality of it's products. I've gotta learn to use a Mac someday, might as well do it now.

The Apple laptops are iBooks, not Powerbooks, so while I don't really have much against Macs, the Averatecs are a bit more powerful.

If I ever complete this, I'll probably go for an Averatec or the cash.

[quote7dfa881e57="megacoupe"]The reviews I've read for Averatec laptops claim that they are not the best quality laptops out there... Cheap build, not sturdy, etc.

I've never used Apple before, but I think I'd rather go with a company that is known for the quality of it's products. I've gotta learn to use a Mac someday, might as well do it now.[/quote7dfa881e57]



my averatec is fine, its a 1000$ piece of equip. chances are your not gunna be tossing it around like a basketball. I wouldnt worry about how far of a drop the laptop can take, and focus more on what YOU want. Like power, good service, etc etc...




by the way, my averatec i got from OC came with a broken dvd burner, and averatec is replacing it as we speak. They have a 7day MAX repair time slot. In other words, they repair ur laptop in 7 days or send u a brand new one. )...plus 24hr cust service, averatec is up there with Dell in my book

[quote9a3eb9c4b4="Lunarpancake"]my averatec is fine, its a 1000$ piece of equip. chances are your not gunna be tossing it around like a basketball. I wouldnt worry about how far of a drop the laptop can take, and focus more on what YOU want. Like power, good service, etc etc...[/quote9a3eb9c4b4]

Funny, I was reading the reviews on Amazon of each Averatec model, and someone edited their post to say that they did indeed drop it, and it was like it never happened. They were pretty impressed. )

[quote9a3eb9c4b4="Lunarpancake"]by the way, my averatec i got from OC came with a broken dvd burner, and averatec is replacing it as we speak. They have a 7day MAX repair time slot. In other words, they repair ur laptop in 7 days or send u a brand new one. )...plus 24hr cust service, averatec is up there with Dell in my book[/quote9a3eb9c4b4]

Nice.