Situation update at OfferCentric. New Info!! Read....

Go to [b065d415c33]www.notebooks4free.com[]www.notebooks4free.com[/b065d415c33] and go to Complete Offer...
WTF? Where did all the offers go? ?

I have my last two people pending and it is taking longer than normal.
I am counting on getting my product, so after the DVRs shut down the
day before I finished, I'm getting a bit anxious here.....

Eeek.

Good luck with that man.

I was planning on doing them next, so hopefully it's just a glitch!

yeah, i just sent them an email...i'll keep everyone posted.
Better yet, keep me posted if you have more knowledge on these things.

offers are there for me.

Apparently some people are having issues with the offers on OC sites..they work just fine for me though ? ? ?

It looks like freenotebookpc.com went down too. I doubt there is a connection, but it isn't working.

[quoted1ff820834="johnjimjones"]It looks like freenotebookpc.com went down too. I doubt there is a connection, but it isn't working.[/quoted1ff820834]

freenotebookpc is a completely different site and it hasn't been up for quite awhile. owner is missing and presumed wealthy.

Offers show for me.

Here is the response I received just now
[quote24ae63f365="OC Customer Service"]Hello,

Our offers are available to a defined number of referrals only. If you do
not see an offer available, this is an indication that referrals of your
sponsor have completed them.

Best Regards,
OfferCentric Member Services[/quote24ae63f365]

[b24ae63f365]These are the offers I have showing[/b24ae63f365]
Citi® Platinum Select® Card for College Students
FreeServers
Road Loans
The Wall Street Journal
Orexis
Longevity
iDish

I have [b24ae63f365]16 Greens[/color24ae63f365][/b24ae63f365] and am waiting for the 17th green from a friend who did
Blockbuster on 5/20. What do you guys make of this? Is this new policy?

The terms of service say
(e).[i24ae63f365] A user will not receive credit for completing the same offer more than once and [b24ae63f365]may not have more than one account complete the same offerregardless of whether it is the user or someone else complete ting the offer[/b24ae63f365]. Furthermore, anyone completing an offer from an OfferCentric
web site must be a unique customer to the advertiser which the offer is for. Any user completing the same offer more than once or [b24ae63f365]having more
than one account completing the same offer will be disqualified[/b24ae63f365]. [/i24ae63f365]

I haven't voluntarily told people what to do, or to do the same offer,
but a couple might have done the same one.
I have never heard one mention of this on the forum or read
it on the T.O.S before..... ?

I think so, same thing on Gratis sites,...sort of...if you do Blockbuster then your referrals can't do Blockbuster, etc. I am assuming that they're doing this so people try new offers besides eFax and Blockbuster. Hehehehe.

all that its saying is that you cannot do the same offer twice with two of ur accounts on their diff sites

Well, from what I can collect, it seems like OC is pretty much saying that after a certain number (this number could even be 1, as far as I know) of people you referred under you have done a certain offer, that offer will be pulled and will not be available for other people who sign up under you (whether it's for new signups or present ones who havn't done an offer yet, I have no idea).

Example
Person A is the first person to sign up. Person B signs up under Person A and does offer X. Person C signs up under Person A and when he tries to do offer X, it isn't there anymore because Person B has already done it.

This example may not be totally correct--Person C may or may not be able to do offer X but Person D, who signs up under Person A may then lose the ability to do offer X. You guys get the general idea, though.

This pretty much means, as far as I can tell, that getting, like, what, 18? refs for notebooks4free.com will be easy at first and gradually become more difficult due to the decrease in available offers.

I sure hope I'm wrong about this.

okay, thanks for the last few replies...[bbf9e6c866e]+Karma[/bbf9e6c866e] for you guys.

i have the same thing on macminis4free, i just signed up yesterday and could not have had anyone sign up for me yet

[quote973ee5304b="chewy"]i have the same thing on macminis4free, i just signed up yesterday and could not have had anyone sign up for me yet[/quote973ee5304b]
i think your situation is a bit different.
I have one more person yet {[b973ee5304b]ref #18[/b973ee5304b]} and they have pulled every offer
except for [b973ee5304b]6[/b973ee5304b] (all of which are the most expensive and hardest to get credit from).
Anyone else experiencing this on OC? IT blows... (

Yes, I'm experiencing this on cameras4free.com and I've only gotten 4 greens, lol.

[quoteac3c10e5ea="benbrown2"]Here is the response I received just now
[quoteac3c10e5ea="OC Customer Service"]Hello,

Our offers are available to a defined number of referrals only. If you do
not see an offer available, this is an indication that referrals of your
sponsor have completed them.

Best Regards,
OfferCentric Member Services[/quoteac3c10e5ea]

[bac3c10e5ea]These are the offers I have showing[/bac3c10e5ea]
Citi® Platinum Select® Card for College Students
FreeServers
Road Loans
The Wall Street Journal
Orexis
Longevity
iDish

I have [bac3c10e5ea]16 Greens[/colorac3c10e5ea][/bac3c10e5ea] and am waiting for the 17th green from a friend who did
Blockbuster on 5/20. What do you guys make of this? Is this new policy?

The terms of service say
(e).[iac3c10e5ea] A user will not receive credit for completing the same offer more than once and [bac3c10e5ea]may not have more than one account complete the same offerregardless of whether it is the user or someone else complete ting the offer[/bac3c10e5ea]. Furthermore, anyone completing an offer from an OfferCentric
web site must be a unique customer to the advertiser which the offer is for. Any user completing the same offer more than once or [bac3c10e5ea]having more
than one account completing the same offer will be disqualified[/bac3c10e5ea]. [/iac3c10e5ea]

I haven't voluntarily told people what to do, or to do the same offer,
but a couple might have done the same one.
I have never heard one mention of this on the forum or read
it on the T.O.S before..... ?[/quoteac3c10e5ea]

I'm not understanding your situation here. So, all your offers are gone or your refs' offers are gone?

I presume you have already greened your account yourself so does it matter?

[quotee5ab19dc75="mr0x"]I'm not understanding your situation here. So, all your offers are gone or your refs' offers are gone?

I presume you have already greened your account yourself so does it matter?[/quotee5ab19dc75]
I have greened. I have 16 greens. 17th is pending. As of yesterday,
the offers were drastically reduced to the 7 hardest offers to complete.

All of my referrals are unique, but a few have choosen the identical
offer to complete as my other referrals. For instance, a couple of
people did Tickle IQ, some Blockbuster, some Easy Cream.

One of my questions was [be5ab19dc75]why did all the offers get pulled (some of which
haven't even been completed)[/be5ab19dc75].

My second question revolved around the [be5ab19dc75]confusing wording in the T.O.S.
about disqualification if multiple users (all unique) did the same offer for
my account.[/be5ab19dc75] This is still unclear to me.

[quote323967d462]My second question revolved around the confusing wording in the T.O.S.
about disqualification if multiple users (all unique) did the same offer for
my account. This is still unclear to me.[/quote323967d462]

It means that if [b323967d462]you[/b323967d462] do the same offer more than once on different sites you're disqualified.

[quote11baa4ef2f="benbrown2"][quote11baa4ef2f="mr0x"]I'm not understanding your situation here. So, all your offers are gone or your refs' offers are gone?

I presume you have already greened your account yourself so does it matter?[/quote11baa4ef2f]
I have greened. I have 16 greens. 17th is pending. As of yesterday,
the offers were drastically reduced to the 7 hardest offers to complete.

All of my referrals are unique, but a few have choosen the identical
offer to complete as my other referrals. For instance, a couple of
people did Tickle IQ, some Blockbuster, some Easy Cream.

One of my questions was [b11baa4ef2f]why did all the offers get pulled (some of which
haven't even been completed)[/b11baa4ef2f].

My second question revolved around the [b11baa4ef2f]confusing wording in the T.O.S.
about disqualification if multiple users (all unique) did the same offer for
my account.[/b11baa4ef2f] This is still unclear to me.[/quote11baa4ef2f]

When I check my notebooks4free site, I have all the offers there. So, it's probably related to how close you are to finishing the site. They probably want to make the last ref hard to get.

I've got 2 sites which have zero referrals (ds, macminis) and they both have only 7 offers. The only OC account I have that has all offers available is my cameras4free account which is 4/7. My PVPS4Free account only has 7 and i'm 9/10 on it.

4 of my ref's completed the Video professor online trial, I emailed OC about this.... This is the reply that I received.

Hello,

As long as they can complete it then you are fine. We do have a limit on all offers which determines how many people can complete it.

Best Regards,
OfferCentric Member Services

I have 11 greens on pvps and have completed 3 offers myself with no credit, and 2 days ago the I went from having all the offers available to just freeservers, longevity, and orexis, and when I tried to do freeservers, I got an error!

my notebooks acct (7/18) has all of its offers but my mp3players4free site (0/5) doesn't have very many offers... doesn't make sense

well, OC is pulling all the stops now.....
Not only are the offers reduced to very expensive options,
but every cash back symbol has been removed from each offer.

They used to throw a couple bucks your way (up to $25 on WSJ)
for doing the pricey offers, but that is officially gone for me now.

?

lisighli Even with their new rule, I don't understand why all my referrals only get 7 of the same expensive offers to choose from eventhough I only have 4 greens on my cameras4free.com site. I can understand the new rule, but, as benbrown2 mentioned, the whole deal with only having 7 offers doesn't make sense. They screwed us over on purpose.

I'm sure they were able to keep from having to pay out a whole lot of people with their recent actions of closing down dvrs4free.com and their new rule implementation both w/o any warning. In the long run, they'll lose more money due to disgruntled people no longer doing or referring any of their sites.

The same bullshit is happening to me on psps4free
my refferals are saying some offers are missing that I havent even done yet!!!
freeservers is only 7.99 a month though if you only need to get 1 or two more refs get them to do that one.

i had 2 of my referrals go red on mp3 so i tried to refer a friend of mine and he only has 7 which is weird because my screen shows like 44 offers still. this shit is fucked and in my opinion offercentric is going to close, only i think they will hold out for a while and then pull a "due to lack of intrest" because no one will be able to finish. it is already hard enough getting someone to sign up for these sites, and now with this bs they are obvioulsy just trying to fuck us over! if i ever see someone from this company im going to punch them in the face, then run away crying because i didnt get my 275$.

[quote008a92b0de="lamecity"]i had 2 of my referrals go red on mp3 so i tried to refer a friend of mine and he only has 7 which is weird because my screen shows like 44 offers still. this shit is fucked and in my opinion offercentric is going to close, only i think they will hold out for a while and then pull a "due to lack of intrest" because no one will be able to finish. it is already hard enough getting someone to sign up for these sites, and now with this bs they are obvioulsy just trying to fuck us over! if i ever see someone from this company im going to punch them in the face, then run away crying because i didnt get my 275$.[/quote008a92b0de]

The offers that show up on your screen and the offers that show up on your referrals' screens aren't necessarily the same. The offers that show up on your screens are dependent on the offers that other people who have signed up under the person that you signed up under have done. Likewise, the offers that show up on your referrals' screens are depedent on the offers that people who have signed up under you have done.

[quoted9a3e7c7ce="hunterr83"][ud9a3e7c7ce]The offers that show up on your screen and the offers that show up on your referrals' screens aren't necessarily the same. [/ud9a3e7c7ce][bd9a3e7c7ce]The offers that show up on your screens are dependent on the offers that other people who have signed up under the person that you signed up under have done. Likewise, the offers that show up on your referrals' screens are depedent on the offers that people who have signed up under you have done.[/bd9a3e7c7ce][/quoted9a3e7c7ce]
Is this correct? I have no idea who I first did Notebooks for.

What sucks is I don't know if my referrals are showing the same.
I'm not going to get friends of mine to sign up (and not do an offer)
b/c I dont' want to get hit with some b/s spamming excuse. Maybe
I'll just PM a few of my refs and see what their screens show.

I tried to barter last night for a guy to do my last Notebooks, and
I told him there were only a few sites left to choose from. From what
you are saying this is not necessarily the case. This could be good news...

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[quote2d1e7079ad="JUNIOR6886"][b2d1e7079ad]FreeServers[/b2d1e7079ad] is only 7.99 a month though if you only need to get 1 or two more refs get them to do that one.[/quote2d1e7079ad]
I read this on RatetheOffers
[quote2d1e7079ad="RTO"]Freeservers never gave me credit. After emailing them and the reward company over a two month period, I gave up. My credit card was being billed and I had already paid a set up fee. The response from Freeservers was always nasty and indifferent. Freeservers even told me that they couldn't help get me credit because they are not in communication with the reward company !! I didn't expect a refund because their terms specify no refund beyond 30 days. But, I did expect to receive credit for completing the offer !! I never recieved credit and ended up doing another offer for my gift. These people are the worst.[/quote2d1e7079ad]
I know this is only 1 review but it was from 2 days ago.
The guy paid $57 total shock

Anyone have specific details on FreeServers

1) time to credit
2) money up front
3) length of needed membership
4) total cost/effort

[quote4e6338b6ab="benbrown2"][quote4e6338b6ab="hunterr83"][u4e6338b6ab]The offers that show up on your screen and the offers that show up on your referrals' screens aren't necessarily the same. [/u4e6338b6ab][b4e6338b6ab]The offers that show up on your screens are dependent on the offers that other people who have signed up under the person that you signed up under have done. Likewise, the offers that show up on your referrals' screens are depedent on the offers that people who have signed up under you have done.[/b4e6338b6ab][/quote4e6338b6ab]
Is this correct? I have no idea who I first did Notebooks for.

What sucks is I don't know if my referrals are showing the same.
I'm not going to get friends of mine to sign up (and not do an offer)
b/c I dont' want to get hit with some b/s spamming excuse. Maybe
I'll just PM a few of my refs and see what their screens show.

I tried to barter last night for a guy to do my last Notebooks, and
I told him there were only a few sites left to choose from. From what
you are saying this is not necessarily the case. This could be good news...

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I'm pretty sure this is the case, since it makes logical sense. If the offers that showed on your screen were the same that showed up on your referra's screns, then, logically, the offers that show on your referral's referral's screen would look like the offers that show up on your screen. I don't want to go into details, but if this were the case, there would be major problems with getting offers done. This new system that they're using has to be systematic. The latter theory is not.

As for that last referral on your notebooks4free.com, since he's your last green, I think it's safe to assume that the selection of offers he'll get willl still suck.

[quoteb587825219="hunterr83"]
The offers that show up on your screen and the offers that show up on your referrals' screens aren't necessarily the same. The offers that show up on your screens are dependent on the offers that other people who have signed up under the person that you signed up under have done. Likewise, the offers that show up on your referrals' screens are depedent on the offers that people who have signed up under you have done.[/quoteb587825219]

That's strange, considering the three accounts I have that have limited offers have the exact same 7 offers, and I didn't sign up under anyone on one of those accounts.

[quote8a38de2cb6="Avenger55"][quote8a38de2cb6="hunterr83"]
The offers that show up on your screen and the offers that show up on your referrals' screens aren't necessarily the same. The offers that show up on your screens are dependent on the offers that other people who have signed up under the person that you signed up under have done. Likewise, the offers that show up on your referrals' screens are depedent on the offers that people who have signed up under you have done.[/quote8a38de2cb6]

That's strange, considering the three accounts I have that have limited offers have the exact same 7 offers, and I didn't sign up under anyone on one of those accounts.[/quote8a38de2cb6]

That's probably a glitch in their system then. This is happening with a lot of people. It's either a glitch or they purposefully did this just to screw over a bunch of people. Either way, they don't seem to give a shit even if it's simply bad programming on their part.

The other day I had 7 offers left on xbox3604free and now i have all the normal offers again. Either they are rotating them or there is a glitch in their system.

[b0046c91abb]OFFICIAL OFFERCENTRIC STATEMENT FROM A4F[/b0046c91abb]

[quote0046c91abb="OC"]With regards to the changes in offers, we've gotten a handful of emails
and we have seen some of the threads with angry posters and
completely off base ideas as to why we've made these changes.

The reason we've had to limit what offers are available is mainly due to
fraud. It's simply gotten too easy for people to take advantage of our
sites and their offers.

Advertisers are not dumb and most simply are getting terrible returns on
their advertising expenses through us and other incentive sites. We get
pressure from the advertisers and we have issues of our own with fraud
that has lead to us having to make significant changes.

We were faced with a decision of limiting available offers or losing many
of them. So for all the people complaining that it's much harder to get
something, it would have been even harder had we lost the "good" offers
completely.

The posts about people planning on "telling on us" to the advertisers is
just plain misguided. If they think they will get anywhere complaining to
advertisers that we made it harder for people to take advantage of their
offers, well, that's just plain pointless.

It may have gotten harder to get things from our sites by doing free trial
offers and cancelling them over and over but that's what had to be done.

Steven[/quote0046c91abb]

fuck oc

So who were the people telling me "OC is the BEST" "Gratis sux" and so on? twisted twisted Bad experience with OC from the start... getting worse as I see

at one point OC was the top site. Anyways I see NEW OFFERS ON OC right now. Check your accounts people theres still hope

wow im glad im not involved in any oc sites right now

The new offers are expensive too..... Even after offering 35$ people
run the other direction when the see the offers that are avaliable.....

could someone post a list of the current offers. i still see all mine and would like to know what i have to do to get someone to sign up.

[quote3cd78621b8="lamecity"]could someone post a list of the current offers. i still see all mine and would like to know what i have to do to get someone to sign up.[/quote3cd78621b8]

The offers are (tada)
1. FreeServers
2. Us Weekly
3. DentalPlans.com
4. Discover Clear Card
5. People
6. TV Guide
7. Road Loans
8. The Wall Street Journal
9. Orexis
10. Longevity
11. iDish

[quotedc2f20d084="mr0x"][quotedc2f20d084="lamecity"]could someone post a list of the current offers. i still see all mine and would like to know what i have to do to get someone to sign up.[/quotedc2f20d084]

The offers are (tada)
1. FreeServers
2. Us Weekly
3. DentalPlans.com
4. Discover Clear Card
5. People
6. TV Guide
7. Road Loans
8. The Wall Street Journal
9. Orexis
10. Longevity
11. iDish[/quotedc2f20d084]


yup, same thing here from what my potential refs said. this sucks.

OC is not going to be around much longer if this continues. no one will do any of these offers. mine as well go buy a psp for retail. we are going to have to offer people $50 plus per referral instead of $25, which would add up easily to a psp at retail cost.

sux im glad i finished my cameras for free a few weeks ago

i guess its back to gratis for now

[quote60c8811466]With regards to the changes in offers, we've gotten a handful of emails
and we have seen some of the threads with angry posters and
completely off base ideas as to why we've made these changes.

The reason we've had to limit what offers are available is mainly due to
fraud. It's simply gotten too easy for people to take advantage of our
sites and their offers.

Advertisers are not dumb and most simply are getting terrible returns on
their advertising expenses through us and other incentive sites. We get
pressure from the advertisers and we have issues of our own with fraud
that has lead to us having to make significant changes.

We were faced with a decision of limiting available offers or losing many
of them. So for all the people complaining that it's much harder to get
something, it would have been even harder had we lost the "good" offers
completely.

The posts about people planning on "telling on us" to the advertisers is
just plain misguided. If they think they will get anywhere complaining to
advertisers that we made it harder for people to take advantage of their
offers, well, that's just plain pointless.

It may have gotten harder to get things from our sites by doing free trial
offers and cancelling them over and over but that's what had to be done.

Steven[/quote60c8811466]

Does OC think people wouldn't even [i60c8811466]think[/i60c8811466] about this totally circular and nonsensical explanation? So the advertisers whose offers are actually doable are pissed off about fraud, therefore OC only allows people to sign up for those if they're among the first few greens? How can that possibly make any sense?

How could removing the offers have any effect other than to guarantee their advertisers ZERO leads? Sure, it prevents fraud, but so does becoming a hermit. If they are concerned about people defrauding their advertisers, they need to apply the same rigidity to their auditing across the board.

Besides, if having the small offers up during the final stages of completion is subject to fraud, why isn't having the small offers up during the early stages? I think the answer is pretty obvious.

Steve the Snake's response is nothing but canned bullshit. OC mucked up either the planning or implementation of their business model, and are now skewering their "customers" because of it. The "magnificent seven" crap offers are all that's left when people have earned OC a few bucks because that is the OC's point of profitablility, after which the only shot they have of coming out in-the-black is if someone orders some lame ass snakeoil dick drugs.

Postscript One site that spammed me about an offer for a $300 gift card was doing what OC has begun, but in a somewhat forthright manner. They required two offers to be completed in each of three different tiers (called "pages" by them, hoping you'd overlook the impossibility of those on the third "page"). It was an easy decision to ditch the site because the final two could clearly be too difficult to expect a stranger (or even a buddy) to complete. The snakes at OC realized this at some point (perhaps from the get-go) but have decided to implement the same idea, under cover of some donkeypiss voodoo policy that tries to blame a spectre that they calculated to be [i60c8811466]everyone's[/i60c8811466] enemy, named fraud.

I think we should recommend that they look elsewhere for the all-month-suckers with which they have been stuffing their distended cheeks.

[quoteee2dffeed1="edbanky"][quoteee2dffeed1]With regards to the changes in offers, we've gotten a handful of emails
and we have seen some of the threads with angry posters and
completely off base ideas as to why we've made these changes.

The reason we've had to limit what offers are available is mainly due to
fraud. It's simply gotten too easy for people to take advantage of our
sites and their offers.

Advertisers are not dumb and most simply are getting terrible returns on
their advertising expenses through us and other incentive sites. We get
pressure from the advertisers and we have issues of our own with fraud
that has lead to us having to make significant changes.

We were faced with a decision of limiting available offers or losing many
of them. So for all the people complaining that it's much harder to get
something, it would have been even harder had we lost the "good" offers
completely.

The posts about people planning on "telling on us" to the advertisers is
just plain misguided. If they think they will get anywhere complaining to
advertisers that we made it harder for people to take advantage of their
offers, well, that's just plain pointless.

It may have gotten harder to get things from our sites by doing free trial
offers and cancelling them over and over but that's what had to be done.

Steven[/quoteee2dffeed1]

Does OC think people wouldn't even [iee2dffeed1]think[/iee2dffeed1] about this totally circular and nonsensical explanation? So the advertisers whose offers are actually doable are pissed off about fraud, therefore OC only allows people to sign up for those if they're among the first few greens? How can that possibly make any sense?

How could removing the offers have any effect other than to guarantee their advertisers ZERO leads? Sure, it prevents fraud, but so does becoming a hermit. If they are concerned about people defrauding their advertisers, they need to apply the same rigidity to their auditing across the board.

Besides, if having the small offers up during the final stages of completion is subject to fraud, why isn't having the small offers up during the early stages? I think the answer is pretty obvious.

Steve the Snake's response is nothing but canned bullshit. OC mucked up either the planning or implementation of their business model, and are now skewering their "customers" because of it. The "magnificent seven" crap offers are all that's left when people have earned OC a few bucks because that is the OC's point of profitablility, after which the only shot they have of coming out in-the-black is if someone orders some lame ass snakeoil dick drugs.

Postscript One site that spammed me about an offer for a $300 gift card was doing what OC has begun, but in a somewhat forthright manner. They required two offers to be completed in each of three different tiers (called "pages" by them, hoping you'd overlook the impossibility of those on the third "page"). It was an easy decision to ditch the site because the final two could clearly be too difficult to expect a stranger (or even a buddy) to complete. The snakes at OC realized this at some point (perhaps from the get-go) but have decided to implement the same idea, under cover of some donkeypiss voodoo policy that tries to blame a spectre that they calculated to be [iee2dffeed1]everyone's[/iee2dffeed1] enemy, named fraud.

I think we should recommend that they look elsewhere for the all-month-suckers with which they have been stuffing their distended cheeks.[/quoteee2dffeed1]

i agree on all points.

now lets just hope that longevity credits your $50 offer