I am torn between systems.

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=67180

mcgrom

25-07-2007 11:14:05

I am in the market for a PS3 or an Xbox 360 but can't make up my mind for both. Both are great systems so i'll hold a poll and get more opinions that I already have. Buy the end of the month i'll have a good idea on what one to get hopefully. And hey if you have yours for sale cheaper than I can get it at the store let me know.

tylerc

25-07-2007 11:15:55

XBOX 360, even the Elite costs less than the PS3.

michae229

25-07-2007 11:22:21

[quotea4b452013e="mcgrom"]I am in the market for a PS3 or an Xbox 360 but can't make up my mind for both. Both are great systems so i'll hold a poll and get more opinions that I already have. Buy the end of the month i'll have a good idea on what one to get hopefully. And hey if you have yours for sale cheaper than I can get it at the store let me know.[/quotea4b452013e]

PS3 you can use your own backgrounds you don't pay for them like the xbox, online free also. Also there is a rumor that Target is going blue-ray exclusive and Ps3 has more games coming out than xbox. The failure rate on the xbox is pathetic too. Look at this forum people talking about xbox repairs rarely see that on PS3 and when was the last time you heard someone take down a thread because of defective units.

But hey if you want an xbox wait for a price drop rumor has it the 8th of August.

tylerc

25-07-2007 11:29:24

I don't think anyone can debate that PS3's online service is better than XBOX Live. Plus, it costs a reasonable $50/year, which is less than $1/week.

Also, Wal-Mart is supporting HD-DVD, and Wal-Mart is the world's largest seller of DVDs.

bballp6699

25-07-2007 11:29:36

Xbox 360. Simply because I have one and don't want to feel like a douche for owning the shittier of the two.

michae229

25-07-2007 11:32:29

[quote07f01cdde5="tylerc"]I don't think anyone can debate that PS3's online service is better than XBOX Live. Plus, it costs a reasonable $50/year, which is less than $1/week.

Also, Wal-Mart is supporting HD-DVD, and Wal-Mart is the world's largest seller of DVDs.[/quote07f01cdde5]

we will see how long that goes on for but you cant deny that out of the 3 xbox has the worst hardware of the 3. All the accessories and stuff i have to buy from M$ since your saying HD DVD is great tell him he has to buy a HD DVD player and Live membership to add to the 360 cost.

the xbox online has nothing special...

x323smostwantedx

25-07-2007 11:36:21

ps3 ftw

kidd2108

25-07-2007 11:40:59

Since you can have both, I vote for both.

manOFice

25-07-2007 11:41:58

360 because of live and the hd dvd player

ps3 soley because of the blue ray player, lol

But I would go with an xbox elite and use hdmi and get live

JUNIOR6886

25-07-2007 11:44:36

get a ps3, then try getting a free xbox360 later. D

skateme

25-07-2007 11:47:33

PS3 because of the kick-ass graphics and Resistance!!!

x323smostwantedx

25-07-2007 11:49:50

[quote0e7391e6f2="skateme"]PS3 because of the kick-ass graphics and Resistance!!![/quote0e7391e6f2]
And dont forget this
http//www.gametrailers.com/player/22703.html

tylerc

25-07-2007 11:50:38

Bleh, PS3's graphics aren't THAT much better than XBOX 360's.

Also, XBOX 360 will have Halo 3, FTW!

Gigante

25-07-2007 11:54:20

So far Xbox 360 is still beating PS3 on graphics, but PS3 hasnt released the games to exploit its capabilities, but neither fully has Xbox 360. If you like online gameplay, I would go with Xbox 360. If you want games you can play now (and not wait) I would go with Xbox 360. If you really like sony for some reason go with PS3, but the Xbox 360 is my favorite of the three consoles with Wii second and PS3 third. I haven't found a reason to play my PS3 and at least five months.

J4320

25-07-2007 12:13:26

The real gamer will get the 360. ;)

Daggoth

25-07-2007 12:14:16

I don't see the Nintendo Wii choice.

tylerc

25-07-2007 12:15:16

[quotef58babb92a="Daggoth"]I don't see the Nintendo Wii choice.[/quotef58babb92a]

Probably because he doesn't want that one?

J4320

25-07-2007 12:48:04

lol

Iloveipods2

25-07-2007 13:00:16

[quote107c6b10a9="tylerc"][quote107c6b10a9="Daggoth"]I don't see the Nintendo Wii choice.[/quote107c6b10a9]

Probably because he doesn't want that one?[/quote107c6b10a9]

he probably already has one....

If you got the $$$, then both. If not, then the 360

Powerbook

25-07-2007 13:15:17

xbox360 doesn't have the worst hardware.... I had mine since launch. Actually I had mine every since every10minutes. Sure there were many faulty systems, but it doesn't have the worst hardware. Sony does not even know how to fully utilize the ps3.

jeagle82

25-07-2007 13:27:19

I have both the PS3 and the Wii, and in my opinion they both blow the shitBox 360 out of the water!

It's inevitable... Blu-Ray WILL beat HD-DVD in the format wars. Places like Blockbuster, Best Buy and others are already starting to switch towards only carrying Blu-Ray movies.

Also, those who say that the XBOX 360 costs less than the PS3, they are only partially correct. If you don't care about high-definition movie playback and the extra HD space, then yes, the Xbox360 costs less.... But, as another user pointed out, if you do care about that, you have to buy the HD-DVD Player add-on to the 360 which i think is $150 plus tax, and if you want to upgrade the HD that will be another $50-$100.

Really, the PS3 and the XBOX Elite are more comparable, because of the similar HD space and the HDMI port with the wireless controller included. Take the Elite pricetag then add $150 for the HD-DVD drive, and it actually costs MORE than the PS3.

So, PS3 FTW! Wii is great too!

Wolfeman

25-07-2007 14:19:51

360 FTW...

michae229

25-07-2007 15:03:23

[quote74186519e1="Powerbook"]xbox360 doesn't have the worst hardware.... I had mine since launch. Actually I had mine every since every10minutes. Sure there were many faulty systems, but it doesn't have the worst hardware. Sony does not even know how to fully utilize the ps3.[/quote74186519e1]

like i said before WORST hardware 3 year warranty why would that be needed? Looks like a certain company does not believe on the reliability of their hardware.

h3x

25-07-2007 15:08:21

Xbox 360.

Xbox Live. HD DVD. Windows Media Center. Hundreds of great games already available.

PS3 is losing exclusivities left and right... The online system is shite... Lots of rumors are flying around that more exclusives are about to be lost, such as Metal Gear Solid 4 (rumored by OXM to come out a few months after the PS3 launch) and the Final Fantasy series (Microsoft and Squaresoft are in talks).

As for Blu Ray... Its Region Locked... Its BD+ is Destructive DRM (Self-destruct capability on all Blu Ray players in case you try to run a backed up movie or a movie outside of your region)... and its expensive to produce and manufacture (even more so now since Sony has mandated BD+ on all movies produced and has turned on BD+ on all players).

Blu Ray is very anti-consumer and uses shady marketing to promote BD.

But hey, if you like to have someone else (Sony) own your movie collection... By all means, go with Blu Ray. ;)

hehehhehe

25-07-2007 15:25:29

[quote5e975267a9="h3x"]Its BD+ is Destructive DRM (Self-destruct capability on all Blu Ray players in case you try to run a backed up movie or a movie outside of your region)... [/quote5e975267a9]
Curious, where do you see that? It seems a bit far fetched.

h3x

25-07-2007 15:28:48

http//digg.com/movies/Blu-Ray_players_to_self-destruct_if_stolen_media_is_detected

http//www.engadget.com/2005/09/02/blu-ray-players-to-punish-users-who-hack-their-gear/

michae229

25-07-2007 15:28:51

[quote954cb433a5="h3x"]Xbox 360.

Xbox Live. HD DVD. Windows Media Center. Hundreds of great games already available.

PS3 is losing exclusivities left and right... The online system is shite... Lots of rumors are flying around that more exclusives are about to be lost, such as Metal Gear Solid 4 (rumored by OXM to come out a few months after the PS3 launch) and the Final Fantasy series (Microsoft and Squaresoft are in talks).

As for Blu Ray... Its Region Locked... Its BD+ is Destructive DRM (Self-destruct capability on all Blu Ray players in case you try to run a backed up movie or a movie outside of your region)... and its expensive to produce and manufacture (even more so now since Sony has mandated BD+ on all movies produced and has turned on BD+ on all players).

Blu Ray is very anti-consumer and uses shady marketing to promote BD.

But hey, if you like to have someone else (Sony) own your movie collection... By all means, go with Blu Ray. ;)[/quote954cb433a5]

more money more money! Like i said before if you want what you need out the box without going back with more money get a PS3 and what i saw at E3 M$ show sucked with one exclusive and more peripherals to milk us on.


[quote954cb433a5="h3x"]http//digg.com/movies/Blu-Ray_players_to_self-destruct_if_stolen_media_is_detected

http//www.engadget.com/2005/09/02/blu-ray-players-to-punish-users-who-hack-their-gear/[/quote954cb433a5]

sounds like bull so if i make my own BD movie it will blow up lol.

h3x

25-07-2007 15:36:43

Xbox 360 includes everything you need to play (Elite includes 120 GB HDD, HDMI cables, Component/Composite cables, Wireless Controller, Headset, and of course, the unit itself)... If I recall right, the PS3 does not include an HDMI cable and you would have to buy one separately in order to take advantage of the features.

If you're referring to HD DVD, one would only need to buy the small little box along with their Xbox 360 when they buy the console. If one shops right and waits for the holiday season (even shortly after the holiday season), you can get an Xbox 360 and an HD DVD for less than the price of the PS3.

hehehhehe

25-07-2007 15:39:09

[quote906ce0c0b8="h3x"]http//digg.com/movies/Blu-Ray_players_to_self-destruct_if_stolen_media_is_detected

http//www.engadget.com/2005/09/02/blu-ray-players-to-punish-users-who-hack-their-gear/[/quote906ce0c0b8]
The original articles are gone from 2 years ago. I also call BS if this is the only info out there. You really think a company would release a product that self destructs and expect people to take it? And you think this would be the only info out there had this been true? People would go nuts...

h3x

25-07-2007 15:41:52

[quote284f7b1db7="michae229"]sounds like bull so if i make my own BD movie it will blow up lol.[/quote284f7b1db7]

Remember the CD Root Kit? Sony has been known in the past for doing sneaky shit. You don't own your BD player (or PS3) if you allow Sony to take control of your player (through its BD+ DRM).

You can read about BD+ on Wikipedia

http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#BD.2B

While self-destruction hasn't been performed on any BD player, it doesn't mean that it can't or won't happen.

... and if it were to happen, it would happen to those who intentionally circumvent the copy protection to play backed up movies (and possibly region locked discs that have had their circumvention defeated.)

Regardless how Sony will enforce its BD+, its unfair and insane DRM policy.

hehehhehe

25-07-2007 16:01:23

[quotedcead72ea2="h3x"]
You can read about BD+ on Wikipedia

http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#BD.2B

While self-destruction hasn't been performed on any BD player, it doesn't mean that it can't or won't happen.

... and if it were to happen, it would happen to those who intentionally circumvent the copy protection to play backed up movies (and possibly region locked discs that have had their circumvention defeated.)

Regardless how Sony will enforce its BD+, its unfair and insane DRM policy.[/quotedcead72ea2]
Where does it talk about self destruction?

Seriously, let's keep the exaggerated fanboy BS speculation out of here, unless you can honestly say that the PS3 will destroy itself if you try to play a backup or imported movie.

zdub08

25-07-2007 16:20:16

[quote1a9cca8362="J4320"]The real gamer will get the 360. ;)[/quote1a9cca8362]
the real gamer would probably game on the PC already, making it pointless to buy a 360. all the 360 exclusives are released on PC later. if you are strictly a console gamer, however, you should probably go with the 360.

michae229

25-07-2007 16:22:02

[quotefb5c9c626b="h3x"]Xbox 360 includes everything you need to play (Elite includes 120 GB HDD, HDMI cables, Component/Composite cables, Wireless Controller, Headset, and of course, the unit itself)... If I recall right, the PS3 does not include an HDMI cable and you would have to buy one separately in order to take advantage of the features.

If you're referring to HD DVD, one would only need to buy the small little box along with their Xbox 360 when they buy the console. If one shops right and waits for the holiday season (even shortly after the holiday season), you can get an Xbox 360 and an HD DVD for less than the price of the PS3.[/quotefb5c9c626b]

funny only thing that you say it doesn't come with is an HDMI cable. With xbox i have to buy Live, battery kit to buy for my controller and most people that have a phone has a blue tooth headset when i have the option just like my hard drive and buy the cheapest on the market. M$ private wireless tech. is just a way for them to milk us on their private products. $479 for a no hi def playback or 500 with it and if your are cheap enough go on eBay or gamestop buy the 20 gig and it will still be a better deal then a overpriced 360. Also HDMI cable are not that expensive and crucial.

zdub08

25-07-2007 16:27:39

most people who have cell phones have blue tooth headsets? nay

h3x

25-07-2007 16:30:45

[quoteb6773b9096="hehehhehe"][quoteb6773b9096="h3x"]
You can read about BD+ on Wikipedia

http//en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blu-ray_Disc#BD.2B

While self-destruction hasn't been performed on any BD player, it doesn't mean that it can't or won't happen.

... and if it were to happen, it would happen to those who intentionally circumvent the copy protection to play backed up movies (and possibly region locked discs that have had their circumvention defeated.)

Regardless how Sony will enforce its BD+, its unfair and insane DRM policy.[/quoteb6773b9096]
Where does it talk about self destruction?

Seriously, let's keep the exaggerated fanboy BS speculation out of here, unless you can honestly say that the PS3 will destroy itself if you try to play a backup or imported movie.[/quoteb6773b9096]

I never said it would destroy itself... I said they have the capability to do so (based on the capabilities of BD+). Read more carefully.

... and I'm not a fanboy thats trying to destroy Blu Ray (to me, its superior in terms of data storage... but thats where I draw the line for BD... Great for data storage, Bad for movies).

I've already put in my 2 cents about the dangers of BD+, thats all I'll speak about Blu Ray or the PS3.

In fact, the PS3 does have some features that I wish was available on the Xbox (such as the protein folding program, Folding@Home and Linux). If those two things are important to you, then by all means get a PS3. But I don't personally see anything else that the PS3 offers that is worth the price tag.

... and you don't need the battery kit for the 360 (you can use the included AA battery pack and works just fine for 6-8 hours.)

michae229

25-07-2007 16:31:50

[quotea6ea98bd2b="zdub08"]most people who have cell phones have blue tooth headsets? nay[/quotea6ea98bd2b]


rather have blue tooth cheaper headset then the 60 dollar headset.

still $ for batteries to add to the controller rather have a reachable battery pack.

Killer722

25-07-2007 16:36:59

360 not only already has a sweet library, but the lineup is looking like the best lineup ever for any system, in my opinion. Also michae, you say 360s are faulty, but maybe thats because MS sold a shitton and there's bound to be that faulty ratio. PS3's aren't reported faulty probably because nobody plays theres like 360 owners play their 360's cause there are no good games. shrug

360 without a doubt. Seriously, get a 360 and be happy. My brother got a PS3 and he hasn't played it since last Winter, ever since he got a 360.

Also, who gives a shit about Blu-Ray and all that HD-DVD value stuff. You're getting a gaming system, so get the system with games. Honestly, the 360 overwhelms the PS3 with good games by so much that all that other shit shouldn't even matter. I've never once found myself wishing for a Blu-Ray player (or HD-DVD player for that matter) or complaining about using a battery pack nor have I ever longed to use my own backgrounds, because you know, that's the deal breaker for all gamers. 360 does have some great themes for free by the way. I'm using a GTAIV one and it looks better than any of the ones that cost points IMO.

BTW, I'm not an MS fanboy. My favorite system last gen was PS2 and I despised Xbox 1. Also, I have a Metal Gear Solid avatar. shrug I love Sony and their franchises, but the PS3 as of right now is just blatantly lacking.

michae229

25-07-2007 16:49:59

[quote482caf97eb="Killer722"]360 not only already has a sweet library, but the lineup is looking like the best lineup ever for any system, in my opinion. Also michae, you say 360s are faulty, but maybe thats because MS sold a shitton and there's bound to be that faulty ratio. PS3's aren't reported faulty probably because nobody plays theres like 360 owners play their 360's cause there are no good games. shrug

360 without a doubt. Seriously, get a 360 and be happy. My brother got a PS3 and he hasn't played it since last Winter, ever since he got a 360.

Also, who gives a shit about Blu-Ray and all that HD-DVD value stuff. You're getting a gaming system, so get the system with games. Honestly, the 360 overwhelms the PS3 with good games by so much that all that other shit shouldn't even matter. I've never once found myself wishing for a Blu-Ray player (or HD-DVD player for that matter) or complaining about using a battery pack nor have I ever longed to use my own backgrounds, because you know, that's the deal breaker for all gamers. 360 does have some great themes for free by the way. I'm using a GTAIV one and it looks better than any of the ones that cost points IMO.

BTW, I'm not an MS fanboy. My favorite system last gen was PS2 and I despised Xbox 1. Also, I have a Metal Gear Solid avatar. shrug I love Sony and their franchises, but the PS3 as of right now is just blatantly lacking.[/quote482caf97eb]

one question did you see what M$ had to offer at E3? And if they are so great why did Peter More leave personally I would stay at M$. And yea probably it was because more money but i doubt it I even bet he asked M$ to match the EA deal but they said no. Also around this time 360 had no games.

I like the 360 but they are in desperate need of a hardware revision. They have the sales why not use the profits on focusing on that then making a Halo xbox and giving a 3 year warranty? You guys say that there is not a problem with the hardware then tell me why they focus on how the consumer was treated and have a 3 year warranty? Looks to me M$ is hoping Halo saves them....

Killer722

25-07-2007 16:55:07

[quoteb52fdeb104="michae229"][quoteb52fdeb104="Killer722"]360 not only already has a sweet library, but the lineup is looking like the best lineup ever for any system, in my opinion. Also michae, you say 360s are faulty, but maybe thats because MS sold a shitton and there's bound to be that faulty ratio. PS3's aren't reported faulty probably because nobody plays theres like 360 owners play their 360's cause there are no good games. shrug

360 without a doubt. Seriously, get a 360 and be happy. My brother got a PS3 and he hasn't played it since last Winter, ever since he got a 360.

Also, who gives a shit about Blu-Ray and all that HD-DVD value stuff. You're getting a gaming system, so get the system with games. Honestly, the 360 overwhelms the PS3 with good games by so much that all that other shit shouldn't even matter. I've never once found myself wishing for a Blu-Ray player (or HD-DVD player for that matter) or complaining about using a battery pack nor have I ever longed to use my own backgrounds, because you know, that's the deal breaker for all gamers. 360 does have some great themes for free by the way. I'm using a GTAIV one and it looks better than any of the ones that cost points IMO.

BTW, I'm not an MS fanboy. My favorite system last gen was PS2 and I despised Xbox 1. Also, I have a Metal Gear Solid avatar. shrug I love Sony and their franchises, but the PS3 as of right now is just blatantly lacking.[/quoteb52fdeb104]

one question did you see what M$ had to offer at E3? And if they are so great why did Peter More leave personally I would stay at M$. And yea probably it was because more money but i doubt it I even bet he asked M$ to match the EA deal but they said no. Also around this time 360 had no games.

I like the 360 but they are in desperate need of a hardware revision. They have the sales why not use the profits on focusing on that then making a Halo xbox and giving a 3 year warranty? You guys say that there is not a problem with the hardware then tell me why they focus on how the consumer was treated and have a 3 year warranty? Looks to me M$ is hoping Halo saves them....[/quoteb52fdeb104]

Yea, fuck MS. How dare they give us a 3 year warranty like that. I'd rather have a slightly more reliable system with a 90 day warranty rather than a rarely faulty system that I can get repaired whenever I want within the next 3 years. Fuckers.

Oh by the way, I was being sarcastic.

michae229

25-07-2007 17:01:58

[quote48ea650bb2="Killer722"][quote48ea650bb2="michae229"][quote48ea650bb2="Killer722"]360 not only already has a sweet library, but the lineup is looking like the best lineup ever for any system, in my opinion. Also michae, you say 360s are faulty, but maybe thats because MS sold a shitton and there's bound to be that faulty ratio. PS3's aren't reported faulty probably because nobody plays theres like 360 owners play their 360's cause there are no good games. shrug

360 without a doubt. Seriously, get a 360 and be happy. My brother got a PS3 and he hasn't played it since last Winter, ever since he got a 360.

Also, who gives a shit about Blu-Ray and all that HD-DVD value stuff. You're getting a gaming system, so get the system with games. Honestly, the 360 overwhelms the PS3 with good games by so much that all that other shit shouldn't even matter. I've never once found myself wishing for a Blu-Ray player (or HD-DVD player for that matter) or complaining about using a battery pack nor have I ever longed to use my own backgrounds, because you know, that's the deal breaker for all gamers. 360 does have some great themes for free by the way. I'm using a GTAIV one and it looks better than any of the ones that cost points IMO.

BTW, I'm not an MS fanboy. My favorite system last gen was PS2 and I despised Xbox 1. Also, I have a Metal Gear Solid avatar. shrug I love Sony and their franchises, but the PS3 as of right now is just blatantly lacking.[/quote48ea650bb2]

one question did you see what M$ had to offer at E3? And if they are so great why did Peter More leave personally I would stay at M$. And yea probably it was because more money but i doubt it I even bet he asked M$ to match the EA deal but they said no. Also around this time 360 had no games.

I like the 360 but they are in desperate need of a hardware revision. They have the sales why not use the profits on focusing on that then making a Halo xbox and giving a 3 year warranty? You guys say that there is not a problem with the hardware then tell me why they focus on how the consumer was treated and have a 3 year warranty? Looks to me M$ is hoping Halo saves them....[/quote48ea650bb2]

Yea, fuck MS. How dare they give us a 3 year warranty like that. I'd rather have a slightly more reliable system with a 90 day warranty rather than a rarely faulty system that I can get repaired whenever I want within the next 3 years. Fuckers.

Oh by the way, I was being sarcastic.[/quote48ea650bb2]


well if you are get your facts straight PS3 warranty is a year

but yea how dare they give use shitty hardware and give use last gen dvd players that scratch our disc and blame us for it because we make them. We send it off with a console with the same problems lmao.

Killer722

25-07-2007 17:05:30

[quote3fce782195]well if you are get your facts straight PS3 warranty is a year

but yea how dare they give use shitty hardware and give use last gen dvd players that scratch our disc and blame us for it because we make them. We send it off with a console with the same problems lmao.[/quote3fce782195]

First off, I wasn't comparing it to the PS3 warranty. I don't give a shit how long the PS3's warranty is, it's rarely gonna break cause I'm never gonna have to remove it from under my bed.

Also, who the hells to say that DVD's are "last-gen". They seem to be working fine for MS and the Wii and the DVD movie industry.

I just got my 360 in from repairs and they sent me a brand new one. Also, it'll only scratch your discs if you move it while it's on, and they have plenty of warnings not to. It's great that the PS3 doesn't scratch discs when the system is moved, but at least the 360 has discs worthy of putting in to the system.

I don't understand how you could be a PS3 fanboy. The thing is so freakin lacking its ridiculous. Xbox 360 can do it whatever it can do in terms of games, despite not having a bullshit cell processor and blu-ray. Look at Virtua Fighter 5. 360 gets it with enhanced graphics and online play.

michae229

25-07-2007 17:10:35

[quote16b71e5bde="Killer722"][/quote16b71e5bde]well if you are get your facts straight PS3 warranty is a year

but yea how dare they give use shitty hardware and give use last gen dvd players that scratch our disc and blame us for it because we make them. We send it off with a console with the same problems lmao.

First off, I wasn't comparing it to the PS3 warranty. I don't give a shit how long the PS3's warranty is, it's rarely gonna break cause I'm never gonna have to remove it from under my bed.

Also, who the hells to say that DVD's are "last-gen". They seem to be working fine for MS and the Wii and the DVD movie industry.

I just got my 360 in from repairs and they sent me a brand new one. Also, it'll only scratch your discs if you move it while it's on, and they have plenty of warnings not to. It's great that the PS3 doesn't scratch discs when the system is moved, but at least the 360 has discs worthy of putting in to the system.

yea link Fronza but be careful don't use it or it will crap out your system like gears did. And your other great games looks like every time they push the xbox it kills the system lol. Oh yea you wont find it because M$ deleted it in the fronza forums lol,

Powerbook

25-07-2007 17:16:04

Take a poll with thousands of people, 360 will win. When xbox 360 was out for the same amount of time as the ps3 was, there were already a handful of awesome games. Sony screwed up big time. The porn industry is behind hd-dvd and so is walmart. There are a ton of old creepy people who buy porn. So hd-dvd will win. wink

Killer722

25-07-2007 17:16:21

[quote877f8b8719]yea link Fronza but be careful don't use it or it will crap out your system like gears did. And your other great games looks like every time they push the xbox it kills the system lol. Oh yea you wont find it because M$ deleted it in the fronza forums lol[/quote877f8b8719]

Ok, first off, it's Forza, and secondly, people that say a game killed their system are victims of we call a coincidence. Sure it's possible the ahrdware reacted wrong or something, but the ratio of "Fronzas" that didn't kill 360's to ones that did is around 30001.

Also, if you're seriously bringing the company's forums into this, I think I can just stop now.

Powerbook

25-07-2007 17:18:18

ehh whatever all 3 systems have something different to offer, each cater to a different people.. there we go

zdub08

25-07-2007 17:24:38

[quote7db829070b="Killer722"]360 not only already has a sweet library, but the lineup is looking like the best lineup ever for any system, in my opinion. [b7db829070b]Also michae, you say 360s are faulty, but maybe thats because MS sold a shitton and there's bound to be that faulty ratio. PS3's aren't reported faulty probably because nobody plays theres like 360 owners play their 360's cause there are no good games. [/b7db829070b]shrug

360 without a doubt. Seriously, get a 360 and be happy. My brother got a PS3 and he hasn't played it since last Winter, ever since he got a 360.

Also, who gives a shit about Blu-Ray and all that HD-DVD value stuff. You're getting a gaming system, so get the system with games. Honestly, the 360 overwhelms the PS3 with good games by so much that all that other shit shouldn't even matter. I've never once found myself wishing for a Blu-Ray player (or HD-DVD player for that matter) or complaining about using a battery pack nor have I ever longed to use my own backgrounds, because you know, that's the deal breaker for all gamers. 360 does have some great themes for free by the way. I'm using a GTAIV one and it looks better than any of the ones that cost points IMO.

BTW, I'm not an MS fanboy. My favorite system last gen was PS2 and I despised Xbox 1. Also, I have a Metal Gear Solid avatar. shrug I love Sony and their franchises, but the PS3 as of right now is just blatantly lacking.[/quote7db829070b]
that's pretty much a bullshit argument. lots of ps3 owners leave their systems on for weeks at a time for folding. you cant really argue that the 360 has more reliable hardware. look at the game systems of the past. people played their playstations and xboxs just as much as people are playing 360s now. a 30% failure rate is really inexcusable.

Wolfeman

25-07-2007 17:26:46

My PS2 and a lot of my friends PS2s from the 1st generation didn't last long. Mine broke after a year...

michae229

25-07-2007 17:40:57

[quote9bb4445a6b="Killer722"][quote9bb4445a6b]yea link Fronza but be careful don't use it or it will crap out your system like gears did. And your other great games looks like every time they push the xbox it kills the system lol. Oh yea you wont find it because M$ deleted it in the fronza forums lol[/quote9bb4445a6b]

Ok, first off, it's Forza, and secondly, people that say a game killed their system are victims of we call a coincidence. Sure it's possible the ahrdware reacted wrong or something, but the ratio of "Fronzas" that didn't kill 360's to ones that did is around 30001.

Also, if you're seriously bringing the company's forums into this, I think I can just stop now.[/quote9bb4445a6b]

You can go ahead and stop because the hardware is bad and there is no answer you can give me that can justify that there isn't one.

zdub08

25-07-2007 17:41:03

[quote86c4d7f2c0="Wolfeman"]My PS2 and a lot of my friends PS2s from the 1st generation didn't last long. Mine broke after a year...[/quote86c4d7f2c0]
right, but I'm sure the failure rate was wayyyy under 33%.

anyways, this decision comes down to games. go to IGN and look at a list of exclusives for each system.

michae229

25-07-2007 17:41:54

[quotee8fcbea806="michae229"][quotee8fcbea806="Killer722"][quotee8fcbea806]yea link Fronza but be careful don't use it or it will crap out your system like gears did. And your other great games looks like every time they push the xbox it kills the system lol. Oh yea you wont find it because M$ deleted it in the fronza forums lol[/quotee8fcbea806]

Ok, first off, it's Forza, and secondly, people that say a game killed their system are victims of we call a coincidence. Sure it's possible the ahrdware reacted wrong or something, but the ratio of "Fronzas" that didn't kill 360's to ones that did is around 30001.

Also, if you're seriously bringing the company's forums into this, I think I can just stop now.[/quotee8fcbea806]

You can go ahead and stop because the hardware is bad and there is no answer you can give me that can justify that there isn't one.[/quotee8fcbea806]


[quotee8fcbea806="Wolfeman"]My PS2 and a lot of my friends PS2s from the 1st generation didn't last long. Mine broke after a year...[/quotee8fcbea806]

but sony had a hardware revision and there was a recall.

tracemhunter

26-07-2007 01:34:50

Right now it is a crapshoot and it really depends on what you want in a system. Most of the big games are coming out on both systems so that shouldn't be of any concern but each system has its couple of exclusives so it depends on which exclusives appeal to you more. PS3 is lacking titles right now while 360 already has a large catalog. Live is better than PSN by a long shot. However, very few PS3 owners have had any problems with faulty hardware. Do you want to support HD-DVD or Blu-ray? This is another debate in itself but currently Blu-ray is kicking HD-DVD's ass (according to dvdempire -- an online retailer). Both systems can stream movies and music from a PC though PS3 can't play as many file types.

EDIT Regarding porn, it is available on both formats but more is available on HD-DVD. Oh, and I'm not sure about the Blu-ray being region locked comment as I have imported a few titles that at the time were only available in Japan.

h3x

26-07-2007 01:45:33

[quotef24b7320d4="tracemhunter"]Oh, and I'm not sure about the Blu-ray being region locked comment as I have imported a few titles that at the time were only available in Japan.[/quotef24b7320d4]

U.S. and Japan are under the same region code for Blu Ray.

skateme

26-07-2007 05:52:07

[quote4afcfc6840="tracemhunter"]Right now it is a crapshoot and it really depends on what you want in a system. Most of the big games are coming out on both systems so that shouldn't be of any concern but each system has its couple of exclusives so it depends on which exclusives appeal to you more. PS3 is lacking titles right now while 360 already has a large catalog. Live is better than PSN by a long shot. However, very few PS3 owners have had any problems with faulty hardware. Do you want to support HD-DVD or Blu-ray? This is another debate in itself but currently Blu-ray is kicking HD-DVD's ass (according to dvdempire -- an online retailer). Both systems can stream movies and music from a PC though PS3 can't play as many file types.

EDIT Regarding porn, it is available on both formats but more is available on HD-DVD. Oh, and I'm not sure about the Blu-ray being region locked comment as I have imported a few titles that at the time were only available in Japan.[/quote4afcfc6840]
i think Sony made an announcement saying that no porn will be on Blu-Ray DVDs

mcgrom

26-07-2007 06:22:09

[quote6ab4bee553="zdub08"][quote6ab4bee553="J4320"]The real gamer will get the 360. ;)[/quote6ab4bee553]
the real gamer would probably game on the PC already, making it pointless to buy a 360. all the 360 exclusives are released on PC later. if you are strictly a console gamer, however, you should probably go with the 360.[/quote6ab4bee553]

PC man myself I also have a Wii.

jeagle82

26-07-2007 07:04:49

It's so funny to me that people can get SOO heated when arguing for a particular gaming console. Like Powerbook said earlier, they are all three unique consoles with their own benefits and strengths. If you like the 360, fine, that's your preference. If you like the PS3, there ya go, you have it... no problems.

To me, arguing about the ps3 vs. the 360 is as pointless as arguing online about what your favorite color is.

mcgrom

26-07-2007 07:08:00

[quote7f52d74cc4="jeagle82"]It's so funny to me that people can get SOO heated when arguing for a particular gaming console. Like Powerbook said earlier, they are all three unique consoles with their own benefits and strengths. If you like the 360, fine, that's your preference. If you like the PS3, there ya go, you have it... no problems.

To me, arguing about the ps3 vs. the 360 is as pointless as arguing online about what your favorite color is.[/quote7f52d74cc4]

I'll agree with that all I wanted is some compare and contrast type of things but it turned into some heated debate for some reason. <shrug> roll

zdub08

26-07-2007 07:12:35

[quotee6b3f2d751="jeagle82"]It's so funny to me that people can get SOO heated when arguing for a particular gaming console. Like Powerbook said earlier, they are all three unique consoles with their own benefits and strengths. If you like the 360, fine, that's your preference. If you like the PS3, there ya go, you have it... no problems.

To me, arguing about the ps3 vs. the 360 is as pointless as arguing online about what your favorite color is.[/quotee6b3f2d751]
but green is the best...

tylerc

26-07-2007 07:16:55

If you take michae229 out of this thread, it could be a calm discussion, but as it has been shown in this thread and countless others, he is a die hard Sony fanboy who refuses to listen to any argument against Sony, no matter how good the argument is.

jeagle82

26-07-2007 07:21:31

[quote828cf60473="zdub08"][quote828cf60473="jeagle82"]It's so funny to me that people can get SOO heated when arguing for a particular gaming console. Like Powerbook said earlier, they are all three unique consoles with their own benefits and strengths. If you like the 360, fine, that's your preference. If you like the PS3, there ya go, you have it... no problems.

To me, arguing about the ps3 vs. the 360 is as pointless as arguing online about what your favorite color is.[/quote828cf60473]
but green is the best...[/quote828cf60473]

haha, nice! Blue is better though... a-hole! ;)

jeagle82

26-07-2007 07:23:26

[quotef63abf0b86="tylerc"]If you take michae229 out of this thread, it could be a calm discussion, but as it has been shown in this thread and countless others, he is a die hard Sony fanboy who refuses to listen to any argument against Sony, no matter how good the argument is.[/quotef63abf0b86]

Well, it's both michae229 and Killer722. They're going at it like a couple of catholic schoolgirls who are riding the cotton pony.

tylerc

26-07-2007 07:29:17

Killer722 supports 360, so he is ok ;)

michae229

26-07-2007 07:33:44

[quotee8134d6c9a="tylerc"]If you take michae229 out of this thread, it could be a calm discussion, but as it has been shown in this thread and countless others, he is a die hard Sony fanboy who refuses to listen to any argument against Sony, no matter how good the argument is.[/quotee8134d6c9a]

I also suggest taking you out of this as well.

tylerc

26-07-2007 07:37:14

What did I do?

Gigante

26-07-2007 09:21:39

[quote3276cf3da1="michae229"][quote3276cf3da1="h3x"]Xbox 360 includes everything you need to play (Elite includes 120 GB HDD, HDMI cables, Component/Composite cables, Wireless Controller, Headset, and of course, the unit itself)... If I recall right, the PS3 does not include an HDMI cable and you would have to buy one separately in order to take advantage of the features.

If you're referring to HD DVD, one would only need to buy the small little box along with their Xbox 360 when they buy the console. If one shops right and waits for the holiday season (even shortly after the holiday season), you can get an Xbox 360 and an HD DVD for less than the price of the PS3.[/quote3276cf3da1]

funny only thing that you say it doesn't come with is an HDMI cable. With xbox i have to buy Live, battery kit to buy for my controller and most people that have a phone has a blue tooth headset when i have the option just like my hard drive and buy the cheapest on the market. M$ private wireless tech. is just a way for them to milk us on their private products. $479 for a no hi def playback or 500 with it and if your are cheap enough go on eBay or gamestop buy the 20 gig and it will still be a better deal then a overpriced 360. Also HDMI cable are not that expensive and crucial.[/quote3276cf3da1]

You should read your post before you click reply. You said it is funny he mentioned no HDMI cable and then didn't go anywhere from that such as explaining why it is funny. Maybe "dude, it is so funny u said about HDMI cable BECAUSE...". And why would you have to buy a battery pack? You can use batteries like consoles should allow. Wii and Xbox 360 take batteries. PS3 doesn't, and it is a pain in the ass because I gotta worry about keeping a shitty cord. And no, most people with a cell phone do not have bluetooth headset, but thanks for assuming the world acts like you.

hehehhehe

26-07-2007 09:37:15

[quotef1fb80ee85="tylerc"]If you take michae229 out of this thread, it could be a calm discussion, but as it has been shown in this thread and countless others, he is a die hard Sony fanboy who refuses to listen to any argument against Sony, no matter how good the argument is.[/quotef1fb80ee85]
Dude, you can't tell me michae is the only fanboy here... At least he didn't say HD-DVD players are capable of self destructing. roll Geez, how low can you go...

All in all, you just have to consider what's important to you and make your choice. It was obvious that this was going to be a "debate" as soon as the OP was posted.

As far as prices go, arguments can be made for either case. Xbox live is $50 as opposed to free for Sony, but you can hardly do shit on Sony's network right now. Both of the consoles will be cheaper by the holidays anyway, and I'd say the value of both are about equal, given the new 360 warranty and PS3's (self destructing lol) Blu-Ray drive.

Looking forward, I think PS3 will have more varied games as opposed to 360's shooters. However, you'll be able to buy cheap games for the 360 that have been out for a while. Just think about what YOU want instead of listening to a bunch of fanboys and go from there.

mcgrom

26-07-2007 10:23:41

[quotebbaa13a46c="hehehhehe"][quotebbaa13a46c="tylerc"]If you take michae229 out of this thread, it could be a calm discussion, but as it has been shown in this thread and countless others, he is a die hard Sony fanboy who refuses to listen to any argument against Sony, no matter how good the argument is.[/quotebbaa13a46c]
Dude, you can't tell me michae is the only fanboy here... At least he didn't say HD-DVD players are capable of self destructing. roll Geez, how low can you go...

All in all, you just have to consider what's important to you and make your choice. It was obvious that this was going to be a "debate" as soon as the OP was posted.

As far as prices go, arguments can be made for either case. Xbox live is $50 as opposed to free for Sony, but you can hardly do shit on Sony's network right now. Both of the consoles will be cheaper by the holidays anyway, and I'd say the value of both are about equal, given the new 360 warranty and PS3's (self destructing lol) Blu-Ray drive.

Looking forward, I think PS3 will have more varied games as opposed to 360's shooters. However, you'll be able to buy cheap games for the 360 that have been out for a while. Just think about what YOU want instead of listening to a bunch of fanboys and go from there.[/quotebbaa13a46c]

Thats about the best one so far exactally what I was looking for.

Gigante

26-07-2007 11:36:13

[quote62df525f5c="hehehhehe"]
Dude, you can't tell me michae is the only fanboy here... At least he didn't say HD-DVD players are capable of self destructing. roll Geez, how low can you go...[/quote62df525f5c]

Pretty sure he didn't say that...

michae229

26-07-2007 11:41:53

[quotefd4fec72bc="Gigante"][quotefd4fec72bc="michae229"][quotefd4fec72bc="h3x"]Xbox 360 includes everything you need to play (Elite includes 120 GB HDD, HDMI cables, Component/Composite cables, Wireless Controller, Headset, and of course, the unit itself)... If I recall right, the PS3 does not include an HDMI cable and you would have to buy one separately in order to take advantage of the features.

If you're referring to HD DVD, one would only need to buy the small little box along with their Xbox 360 when they buy the console. If one shops right and waits for the holiday season (even shortly after the holiday season), you can get an Xbox 360 and an HD DVD for less than the price of the PS3.[/quotefd4fec72bc]

funny only thing that you say it doesn't come with is an HDMI cable. With xbox i have to buy Live, battery kit to buy for my controller and most people that have a phone has a blue tooth headset when i have the option just like my hard drive and buy the cheapest on the market. M$ private wireless tech. is just a way for them to milk us on their private products. $479 for a no hi def playback or 500 with it and if your are cheap enough go on eBay or gamestop buy the 20 gig and it will still be a better deal then a overpriced 360. Also HDMI cable are not that expensive and crucial.[/quotefd4fec72bc]

You should read your post before you click reply. You said it is funny he mentioned no HDMI cable and then didn't go anywhere from that such as explaining why it is funny. Maybe "dude, it is so funny u said about HDMI cable BECAUSE...". And why would you have to buy a battery pack? You can use batteries like consoles should allow. Wii and Xbox 360 take batteries. PS3 doesn't, and it is a pain in the ass because I gotta worry about keeping a shitty cord. And no, most people with a cell phone do not have bluetooth headset, but thanks for assuming the world acts like you.[/quotefd4fec72bc]

Bluetooth headset cheaper than 360 wireless headset and hdmi cable 5 bux don't see what you didnt get there?

hehehhehe

26-07-2007 12:03:20

[quote785ac70568="Gigante"][quote785ac70568="hehehhehe"]
Dude, you can't tell me michae is the only fanboy here... At least he didn't say HD-DVD players are capable of self destructing. roll Geez, how low can you go...[/quote785ac70568]

Pretty sure he didn't say that...[/quote785ac70568]
Sure about that?
[quote785ac70568]
Its BD+ is Destructive DRM ([b785ac70568]Self-destruct capability on all Blu Ray players[/b785ac70568] in case you try to run a backed up movie or a movie outside of your region)... [/quote785ac70568]
Just because you like the same console (I have a 360 too), you don't need to defend ridiculous posts like that.

zdub08

26-07-2007 12:45:06

[quote93a8cdebe6="michae229"][quote93a8cdebe6="Gigante"][quote93a8cdebe6="michae229"][quote93a8cdebe6="h3x"]Xbox 360 includes everything you need to play (Elite includes 120 GB HDD, HDMI cables, Component/Composite cables, Wireless Controller, Headset, and of course, the unit itself)... If I recall right, the PS3 does not include an HDMI cable and you would have to buy one separately in order to take advantage of the features.

If you're referring to HD DVD, one would only need to buy the small little box along with their Xbox 360 when they buy the console. If one shops right and waits for the holiday season (even shortly after the holiday season), you can get an Xbox 360 and an HD DVD for less than the price of the PS3.[/quote93a8cdebe6]

funny only thing that you say it doesn't come with is an HDMI cable. With xbox i have to buy Live, battery kit to buy for my controller and most people that have a phone has a blue tooth headset when i have the option just like my hard drive and buy the cheapest on the market. M$ private wireless tech. is just a way for them to milk us on their private products. $479 for a no hi def playback or 500 with it and if your are cheap enough go on eBay or gamestop buy the 20 gig and it will still be a better deal then a overpriced 360. Also HDMI cable are not that expensive and crucial.[/quote93a8cdebe6]

You should read your post before you click reply. You said it is funny he mentioned no HDMI cable and then didn't go anywhere from that such as explaining why it is funny. Maybe "dude, it is so funny u said about HDMI cable BECAUSE...". And why would you have to buy a battery pack? You can use batteries like consoles should allow. Wii and Xbox 360 take batteries. PS3 doesn't, and it is a pain in the ass because I gotta worry about keeping a shitty cord. And no, most people with a cell phone do not have bluetooth headset, but thanks for assuming the world acts like you.[/quote93a8cdebe6]

Bluetooth headset cheaper than 360 wireless headset and hdmi cable 5 bux don't see what you did get there?[/quote93a8cdebe6]
you would get more respect if you presented complete thoughts in full sentences.

michae229

26-07-2007 12:48:38

[quote3d2a876838="zdub08"][quote3d2a876838="michae229"][quote3d2a876838="Gigante"][quote3d2a876838="michae229"][quote3d2a876838="h3x"]Xbox 360 includes everything you need to play (Elite includes 120 GB HDD, HDMI cables, Component/Composite cables, Wireless Controller, Headset, and of course, the unit itself)... If I recall right, the PS3 does not include an HDMI cable and you would have to buy one separately in order to take advantage of the features.

If you're referring to HD DVD, one would only need to buy the small little box along with their Xbox 360 when they buy the console. If one shops right and waits for the holiday season (even shortly after the holiday season), you can get an Xbox 360 and an HD DVD for less than the price of the PS3.[/quote3d2a876838]

funny only thing that you say it doesn't come with is an HDMI cable. With xbox i have to buy Live, battery kit to buy for my controller and most people that have a phone has a blue tooth headset when i have the option just like my hard drive and buy the cheapest on the market. M$ private wireless tech. is just a way for them to milk us on their private products. $479 for a no hi def playback or 500 with it and if your are cheap enough go on eBay or gamestop buy the 20 gig and it will still be a better deal then a overpriced 360. Also HDMI cable are not that expensive and crucial.[/quote3d2a876838]

You should read your post before you click reply. You said it is funny he mentioned no HDMI cable and then didn't go anywhere from that such as explaining why it is funny. Maybe "dude, it is so funny u said about HDMI cable BECAUSE...". And why would you have to buy a battery pack? You can use batteries like consoles should allow. Wii and Xbox 360 take batteries. PS3 doesn't, and it is a pain in the ass because I gotta worry about keeping a shitty cord. And no, most people with a cell phone do not have bluetooth headset, but thanks for assuming the world acts like you.[/quote3d2a876838]

Bluetooth headset cheaper than 360 wireless headset and hdmi cable 5 bux don't see what you didnt get there?[/quote3d2a876838]
you would get more respect if you presented complete thoughts in full sentences.[/quote3d2a876838]

I did try to put it in a sentence but he still didn't get it, and anyways i don't really need your respect.

Powerbook

26-07-2007 15:50:53

everybody relax, this isn't about respect.... this is an internet forum. Each system is different. one can be good for one person, but the other can be better for another person. most people are satisfied with their 360's

JayKanish

27-07-2007 07:11:06

Sorry, just saw this comic today, thought it was funny and read this thread. (for the record, I like 360 way better than PS3)




http//www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20070727[]http//www.cad-comic.com/comic.php?d=20070727

Gigante

27-07-2007 11:07:21

[quote3bf58b8e81="hehehhehe"][quote3bf58b8e81="Gigante"][quote3bf58b8e81="hehehhehe"]
Dude, you can't tell me michae is the only fanboy here... At least he didn't say HD-DVD[/color3bf58b8e81] players are capable of self destructing. roll Geez, how low can you go...[/quote3bf58b8e81]

Pretty sure he didn't say that...[/quote3bf58b8e81]
Sure about that?
[quote3bf58b8e81]
Its BD+ is Destructive DRM ([b3bf58b8e81]Self-destruct capability on all Blu Ray [/color3bf58b8e81]players[/b3bf58b8e81] in case you try to run a backed up movie or a movie outside of your region)... [/quote3bf58b8e81]
Just because you like the same console (I have a 360 too), you don't need to defend ridiculous posts like that.[/quote3bf58b8e81]

You quoted what he said right below the question you asked me, I don't see why you asked again. Refer to the red writing. Blu Ray not= HD DVD.

gnznroses

27-07-2007 11:27:07

just check which games are coming out for which system. how much do you care about the extra stuff Live offers (i'm guessing there's extras, but i can't imagine what really) over the free ps3 online service? which controller do you like?

personally, i say PS3 all the way. the length of the ps3 warranty doesn't matter because you'll probably never need to use it. if you buy a 360 you can pretty much count on the hassle of it breaking down. i certainly wouldn't pay $50/year for Live. PS3 offers online gaming, messaging, and demo/trailer downloads. good enough for me. i like the ps3 controller and that you recharge it just by plugging it in via usb. 360 uses batteries don't they? that's so 2005.... ;) also, i like the ps3 exclusive games better than the PC-ish crap 360 gets.

hehehhehe

27-07-2007 11:32:02

[quote7e1b4d5a13="Gigante"]You quoted what he said right below the question you asked me, I don't see why you asked again. Refer to the red writing. Blu Ray not= HD DVD.[/quote7e1b4d5a13]
Wha? Role reversal. You really don't see why I put HD DVD lol?

A 360 fanboy states that Bluray drives are capable of self destructing. So I say at least michae (PS3 fanboy) did not say that HDDVD drives could self destruct since that's what he would be putting down. You know, since he's for the PS3 which has a Bluray drive.

tylerc

27-07-2007 11:55:16

[quote35b470d640="gnznroses"]just check which games are coming out for which system. how much do you care about the extra stuff Live offers (i'm guessing there's extras, but i can't imagine what really) over the free ps3 online service? which controller do you like?

personally, i say PS3 all the way. the length of the ps3 warranty doesn't matter because you'll probably never need to use it. if you buy a 360 you can pretty much count on the hassle of it breaking down. i certainly wouldn't pay $50/year for Live. PS3 offers online gaming, messaging, and demo/trailer downloads. good enough for me. i like the ps3 controller and that you recharge it just by plugging it in via usb. 360 uses batteries don't they? that's so 2005.... ;) also, i like the ps3 exclusive games better than the PC-ish crap 360 gets.[/quote35b470d640]

You may not need the PS3 warranty, but who's to say you WILL need the 360 warranty? I've had mine since launch and had no problems with it /knocks on wood.

XBL is a much better online gaming service than PSN, I don't see how anyone can dispute that.

Also, the 360 controller has batteries, but you can buy rechargeable packs with a play n charge kit...that you also plug in via USB.

Halo 3 FTW!!!!!

h3x

27-07-2007 11:55:42

I stated it based on articles (albeit the articles are 2 years old when BDA announced BD+), Engadget and Slashdot wrote an article about it, so its not as if I got the articles from HDDVDfanboy or BluRaysucks.com.

... and again, I said BD players are capable (or would it better if said they had the "ability") of rendering itself non-functional (based on the BD+ virtual machine program), I didn't say it was a given that your player will stop working if you play a copied movie. But its definitely a possibility if Sony decides to go that route if they can't keep the piracy under control.

I don't hate Blu-Ray or wish to see it discontinued... I just don't think it belongs in the movie industry. If they would remove BD+, then I would welcome the competition, but its a matter of anti-consumerism (not fanboyism).

zdub08

27-07-2007 11:55:50

the 360 controller is much more comfortable.

isn't halo the same thing over and over? how is 3 going to be much different?

michae229

27-07-2007 12:11:09

[quotef788d73a47="tylerc"][quotef788d73a47="gnznroses"]just check which games are coming out for which system. how much do you care about the extra stuff Live offers (i'm guessing there's extras, but i can't imagine what really) over the free ps3 online service? which controller do you like?

personally, i say PS3 all the way. the length of the ps3 warranty doesn't matter because you'll probably never need to use it. if you buy a 360 you can pretty much count on the hassle of it breaking down. i certainly wouldn't pay $50/year for Live. PS3 offers online gaming, messaging, and demo/trailer downloads. good enough for me. i like the ps3 controller and that you recharge it just by plugging it in via usb. 360 uses batteries don't they? that's so 2005.... ;) also, i like the ps3 exclusive games better than the PC-ish crap 360 gets.[/quotef788d73a47]

You may not need the PS3 warranty, but who's to say you WILL need the 360 warranty? I've had mine since launch and had no problems with it /knocks on wood.

XBL is a much better online gaming service than PSN, I don't see how anyone can dispute that.

Also, the 360 controller has batteries, but you can buy rechargeable packs with a play n charge kit...that you also plug in via USB.

Halo 3 FTW!!!!![/quotef788d73a47]

whats the difference? Oh we the option to buy simple things like wallpapers and icons this stuff should be free.

tylerc

27-07-2007 12:13:13

I don't know about you, but the availability of free icons or wallpapers for a gaming console isn't one of my "must-haves".

TryinToGetPaid

27-07-2007 12:19:55

Hmm...through 1 page of this hell hole of a topic I haven't learned anything about the consoles and more about how stupid most people are on this board, and I am still wondering how far michae's PS3 is up his own .... you know. Honestly - I like Xbox, always have, always will. The only reason I bought a PS2 was for GTA and God Of War. And since God of War just came out with a new release and the GTA series will be on Xbox - I can throw my PS2 out the window.

michae229

27-07-2007 12:24:19

[quote88f2ca82af="tylerc"]I don't know about you, but the availability of free icons or wallpapers for a gaming console isn't one of my "must-haves".[/quote88f2ca82af]

Ok if its not buying things what is it? And xbox live isnt how it is today as it was around this time last year.

zdub08

27-07-2007 12:54:22

aren't you 360 owners interested in playing games like final fantasy, metal gear solid, ratchet and clank, lair, heavenly sword, little big planet, etc.?

michae229

27-07-2007 12:58:53

[quoteba82ce7c64="zdub08"]aren't you 360 owners interested in playing games like final fantasy, metal gear solid, ratchet and clank, lair, heavenly sword, little big planet, etc.?[/quoteba82ce7c64]

I know all the good xbox games are on PC and are looking better might as well get a PC and buy a 360 controller more reliable IMO.

anybody hear this rumor


Sunday Deal Rumor Get 3200 MSFT points for $20

if so i will buy that

zdub08

27-07-2007 13:57:53

what are MSFT points?

hehehhehe

27-07-2007 14:37:11

[quote8f81cff50c="h3x"]I stated it based on articles (albeit the articles are 2 years old when BDA announced BD+), Engadget and Slashdot wrote an article about it, so its not as if I got the articles from HDDVDfanboy or BluRaysucks.com.

... and again, I said BD players are capable (or would it better if said they had the "ability") of rendering itself non-functional (based on the BD+ virtual machine program), I didn't say it was a given that your player will stop working if you play a copied movie. But its definitely a possibility if Sony decides to go that route if they can't keep the piracy under control.

I don't hate Blu-Ray or wish to see it discontinued... I just don't think it belongs in the movie industry. If they would remove BD+, then I would welcome the competition, but its a matter of anti-consumerism (not fanboyism).[/quote8f81cff50c]
capable = "have the ability" It doesn't really make a difference.

Again, slashdot and engadget do not write articles. They comment on them as blogs do, and the original articles are nowhere to be found. Had this self-destruct thing been true, there would be so much talk about it that a quick search would bring up a lot of info on it. And logically speaking, do you really think that they would do such a thing? No one would buy Bluray players.

The reason this is fanboyism is because you are willing to post illogical, unsubstantiated claims from two years ago about a product standard to prop up your favorite product. I would've said the same thing to someone else had they done the same for HDDVD. I'm all for consumerism but this is ridiculous. Was HD DVD being pro-consumer when they tried to block digg from posting anything about their cracked hex code? Corporations that back both sides are greedy, and that's why there are two sides to begin with. Let's drop it.

[quote8f81cff50c="zdub08"]aren't you 360 owners interested in playing games like final fantasy, metal gear solid, ratchet and clank, lair, heavenly sword, little big planet, etc.?[/quote8f81cff50c]
I totally am but at this point, I don't have the time to play every great game on every console. I already have a banned 360 and an unbanned & pre-4552 dash 360 which runs linux, but I might still buy another 360 for live because my unbanned one is a pain in the ass sometimes so I don't want to use it for that. Still, I'd like to put that money towards a PS3... Those games look insane.