I Got The Cyberpower PC (Updated)

Not what I had expected though.....

Firstly, Cyberpower pulled the neat Star Trek emblemed silver Atop case[=http//www.atopusa.com/AT833specs.htm]Star Trek emblemed silver Atop case from their configurator recently, but Gratis still has that picture[=http//216.59.137.35/images/cs/cs-207-103.jpg]picture up, so I wondered what I'd be getting for awhile.

Cyberpower sent me the new minimum case available, the Aspire X-Dreamer [i2a1419d66b]without[/i2a1419d66b] the side window[=http//www.aspireusa.net/images/B3KL-BK200.jpg]Aspire X-Dreamer [i2a1419d66b]without[/i2a1419d66b] the side window, in black. The Atop's side window was one of the deciding factors for me over the Dell, so I wasn't overjoyed about that. (The default Aspire X-Dreamer [i2a1419d66b]with[/i2a1419d66b] the window[=http//www.aspireusa.net/b3klwangles.htm]Aspire X-Dreamer [i2a1419d66b]with[/i2a1419d66b] the window, would've been a nice substitute though)

Amazingly, the 12" cold cathode neon light[=http//www.cyberpowersystem.com/spec/getspec.asp?n=CASUPGRADE&v=12%22%20COLD%20CATHODE%20NEON%20LIGHT%20%28BLUE%20COLOR%29]12" cold cathode neon light was nowhere to be found. shock I can only assume that as they sent me a case with no window, they thought I wouldn't see it, but it's in the Gratis description, so I thought I'd get it, and I think I still should.

Probably the most surprising change, and the one that concerns me a bit, is that I didn't get the GigaByte GA-K8NS nForce3 250[=http//www.cyberpowersystem.com/spec/getspec.asp?n=MOTHERBOARD&v=%28754-pin%20Socket%29%20GigaByte%20GA-K8NS%20nForce3%20250%20Chipset%20AGP8X%20w/LAN%2CUSB2%2C%26Audio]GigaByte GA-K8NS nForce3 250 board that had been in the Gratis description for so long, or the equal cost Abit KV8 PRO VIA K8T800[=http//www.cyberpowersystem.com/spec/getspec.asp?n=MOTHERBOARD&v=%28754-pin%20Socket%29%20Abit%20KV8%20PRO%20VIA%20K8T800%20Chipset%20AGP8X%20w/LAN%2CUSB2%2C%26Audio]Abit KV8 PRO VIA K8T800, but a board that Cyberpower doesn't even offer in the configurator at all.

It's the MSI K8T Neo[=http//www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=496]MSI K8T Neo.

[600250]http//www.msi.com.tw/images/product_img/mbd_img/6702.jpg[" alt=""/img2a1419d66b]

The board in my PC is the same, but for that the chip to the left of the AGP port, and the third IDE connector in the lower right hand corner, plus the chip and additional SATA connectors near it, are missing, with only solder traces for them. I'm guessing it's a barebones OEM version, or something. (Anyone have any comparison info on this board compared to the other two?)

I was pleased, and surprised, to see that an OEM version of Win XP Home, and a set of speakers were included, as they cost more in the configurator, and were never in Gratis' description. It also included the expected mouse (generic scroll mouse) and keyboard (Logitech) in matching black.

I also got the default [url==http//www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=128-A8-NV96-LX]nVIDIA Geforce-4 MX4000 128MB DDR AGP 8X EDITION w/ TV-OUT[=http//www.evga.com/products/moreinfo.asp?pn=128-A8-NV96-LX]nVIDIA Geforce-4 MX4000 128MB DDR AGP 8X EDITION w/ TV-OUT[/url] instead of the [url==http//www.cyberpowersystem.com/spec/getspec.asp?n=VIDEO&v=ATI%20RADEON%209250%208X%20AGP%20128MB%20DDR%20W/%20CRT%20%26%20TV-OUT]ATI RADEON 9250 8X AGP 128MB DDR W/ CRT & TV-OUT[=http//www.cyberpowersystem.com/spec/getspec.asp?n=VIDEO&v=ATI%20RADEON%209250%208X%20AGP%20128MB%20DDR%20W/%20CRT%20%26%20TV-OUT]ATI RADEON 9250 8X AGP 128MB DDR W/ CRT & TV-OUT[/url] which Gratis had originally chose.

It's not a bad PC, and I still recommend this over the Dell as a keeper, but my missing neon light, and the board changeup have me disappointed.

Where, oh where has my neon light gone, where, oh where, can it be..... cry

wow dude...i'm sorry lol

The XP OEM should almost make up for it. Restore disks are horrible.

[quoteec4654aeb9="BRC"]The XP OEM should almost make up for it. Restore disks are horrible.[/quoteec4654aeb9]

XP Home, though, which sucks ass. /

I forget how (gotta google) but I'm gonna swap my XP Pro drive from my current PC to this one.

I know Microsuck made it so it wouldn't work, but I know I saw a method somewhere...

Additionally, because the board only has 2xSATA & 2xIDE connectors (Dell 4700 is the same), I'm gonna have to decide what I can, and cannot swap over. (Prolly gonna have to get an IDE PCI card, or IDE-SATA adapters)

I'm still happier with this over the Dell. (But I want my neon light!)

[quotebedb2ec274="Tholek"]It's the MSI K8T Neo[=http//www.msi.com.tw/program/products/mainboard/mbd/pro_mbd_detail.php?UID=496]MSI K8T Neo.

http//www.msi.com.tw/images/product_img/mbd_img/6702.jpg[" alt=""/imgbedb2ec274]

The board in my PC is the same, but for that the chip to the left of the AGP port, and the third IDE connector in the lower right hand corner, plus the chip and additional SATA connectors near it, are missing, with only solder traces for them. I'm guessing it's a barebones OEM version, or something. (Anyone have any comparison info on this board compared to the other two?)[/quotebedb2ec274]

Why I missed it, I don't know, but the image shown is of the K8T Neo-FISR2, not the K8T Neo-FSR which was apparently in the Cyberpower. The K8T Neo-FSR [bbedb2ec274]is[/bbedb2ec274] a retail board, and the missing components are optional. (FISR2)

Here's a better picture/page

[img="bedb2ec274]http//www.msicomputer.com/product/mb_image/MS-6702-020_large.jpg[" alt=""/imgbedb2ec274]

http//www.msicomputer.com/product/p_spec.asp?model=K8T_Neo-FSR&class=mb

[quote4d0b526f9a="Tholek"]I forget how (gotta google) but I'm gonna swap my XP Pro drive from my current PC to this one.

I know Microsuck made it so it wouldn't work, but I know I saw a method somewhere...

Additionally, because the board only has 2xSATA & 2xIDE connectors (Dell 4700 is the same), I'm gonna have to decide what I can, and cannot swap over. (Prolly gonna have to get an IDE PCI card, or IDE-SATA adapters)

I'm still happier with this over the Dell. (But I want my neon light!)[/quote4d0b526f9a]

If both motherboard share the same or similar chipset, then it do-able.
If not, the os might not boot, even if you get it to boot, you will experience problems, so better-off reinstalling the os.

[quotecc7d862a34="JJYYLL"]If both motherboard share the same or similar chipset, then it do-able.
If not, the os might not boot, even if you get it to boot, you will experience problems, so better-off reinstalling the os.[/quotecc7d862a34]

Not a chance, the old mobo is a 440BX (commence laughing). wink

I did find this though

http//www.tweakxp.com/tweak2068.aspx

I'm gonna backup an image of my current drive, and try that. If it doesn't work, I can always do a fresh install

Whaddya think?

[quote8740fab966="Tholek"][quote8740fab966="JJYYLL"]If both motherboard share the same or similar chipset, then it do-able.
If not, the os might not boot, even if you get it to boot, you will experience problems, so better-off reinstalling the os.[/quote8740fab966]

Not a chance, the old mobo is a 440BX (commence laughing). wink

I did find this though

http//www.tweakxp.com/tweak2068.aspx

I'm gonna backup an image of my current drive, and try that. If it doesn't work, I can always do a fresh install

Whaddya think?[/quote8740fab966]

I always re-install everything, save myself the trouble of trying to figure thing out. Like what to do XYZ ... alot simpler just to do a fresh install, computers are so fast now, it don't take that much time compare to the past. 1 hr installing WIN98, those days are horrible x On a P4, it only take like 5 to 15 min o

[quoteb2dfc749cc][bb2dfc749cc]Cyberpower Turbo X-Infinity Gamer PC[/bb2dfc749cc]

[listb2dfc749cc] li AMD™ ATHLON™64 2800+ CPU w/ Hyper Transport Technology
li 512 MB PC3200 400MHz DDR MEMORY
li 80GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 HARD DRIVE
li NVIDIA GeForce-4 MX4000 128MB DDR AGP 8X EDITION w/ TV-OUT
li CD-RW 52X32X52
li INTERNAL 6in1 Flash Media Reader/Writer
li 3D WAVE ON-BOARD 5.1 SOUND CARD
li ATX833 Case 350W w/ Window (SILVER)
li 12" COLD CATHODE NEON LIGHT[/listub2dfc749cc][/quoteb2dfc749cc]


That's pretty shitty they don't send out what they list...I'll still choose this one over the other desktops but I'm not nearly as excited as I was before reading this. Thanks for the heads up, though. 7/10 - Almost there.

Yeah, same here....would've made the same choice, but it's a disappointment after seeing the original specs.

By the way, here's the Cyberpower specs before I submitted for approval

[quotebdd6949025]Cyber Power Systems include a min of the following

ATX833 Case 350W w/ Window (SILVER)
AMD™ ATHLON™64 2800+ CPU w/ Hyper Transport Technology
GigaByte GA-K8NS nForce3 250 Chipset AGP8X w/LAN,USB2,& Audio
256 MB PC3200 400MHz DDR MEMORY
80GB 7200 RPM ATA 100 HARD DRIVE
ATI RADEON 9250 8X AGP 128MB DDR W/ CRT & TV-OUT
CD-RW 52X32X52
3D WAVE ON-BOARD 5.1 SOUND CARD[/quotebdd6949025]

In some ways it improved, in some others, it didn't, and I didn't even get all of what was in the description when I shipped.

I would've preferred the Atop case, and certainly want the neon light, but I can't complain as much about the other changes. I've actually seen some positive reviews of MSI boards, and of course the memory increased, not to mention they added a memory card reader. (although I might actually remove that)

Nice for free, but not what they're advertising. (Still want my light)

Hehe what good is the light without the window? Or do you plan to upgrade the case? I've notified a certain contact of mine over at Gratis about it...atleast this way they can either update the description, or get on Cyberpower for shipping something other than what Gratis ordered. I'll let you know as soon as I hear something, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the systems are configured according to what is available at the time they are ordered. The order is probably something like....we'd like [ia2ee2a718b]x[/ia2ee2a718b] systems with these specifications for this price, but if you cannot build this system at this time for this price....replace it with a comparable system for the same price.

I'm not saying what IS, only what MIGHT be. Nonetheless, I'll keep you all updated.

[quote6765df37e8="FreeOffersNow"]Hehe what good is the light without the window? Or do you plan to upgrade the case? I've notified a certain contact of mine over at Gratis about it...atleast this way they can either update the description, or get on Cyberpower for shipping something other than what Gratis ordered. I'll let you know as soon as I hear something, but I have a sneaking suspicion that the systems are configured according to what is available at the time they are ordered. The order is probably something like....we'd like [i6765df37e8]x[/i6765df37e8] systems with these specifications for this price, but if you cannot build this system at this time for this price....replace it with a comparable system for the same price.

I'm not saying what IS, only what MIGHT be. Nonetheless, I'll keep you all updated.[/quote6765df37e8]

FON, I've actually kept on top of what Cyberpower had available at every step of Gratis' changes to fdpc.

As you may know, the PC they offer is a custom config that anyone can do through their site. Over time, Cyberpower have added, and removed certain options and raised or lowered costs on options available.

I was the first to state that we will not get the Atop case that still appears on fdpc, but an Aspire, and specifically the particular Aspire I got. (Although I didn't expect it in black)

At the time Gratis added the Neon cathode tube, it was available, and it still is. To add it to the description, and not include it, is to not provide what they agreed to. I may do a case mod, I could get some plastic sheeting and cut the side panel. It depends on how much effort is involved, but to be honest, they offered a side panel window and I should've gotten that. (The Atop, [i6765df37e8]or[/i6765df37e8] the regular Aspire X-Dreamer)

Either way, I deserve the neon light, even if I have to look through the fan hole to see it. )

It would be nice if Gratis could acknowledge that, and maybe send those out by themselves....

without the neon light, what reason is there to live? I mean cmon, the neon light is what keeps us going and keeps us addicted to the P.C.!

What he said. ;)

sounds like a major bummer to me..

you expected so much but got soo little! sadness...

I wouldn't say he got "soo little," just not what was advertised.

[quote737d8c4bd2="EatChex89"]sounds like a major bummer to me..

you expected so much but got soo little! sadness...[/quote737d8c4bd2]

There are flaws, but even what I got is better than the Dell.....let's not forget that. ;)

You guys are all in agreement that the it's still better then the dell?

Not if you want to sell it on eBay though. The Dell name will carry more weight there.

[quotef5fcf3ed64="JJYYLL"][quotef5fcf3ed64="Tholek"][quotef5fcf3ed64="JJYYLL"]If both motherboard share the same or similar chipset, then it do-able.
If not, the os might not boot, even if you get it to boot, you will experience problems, so better-off reinstalling the os.[/quotef5fcf3ed64]

Not a chance, the old mobo is a 440BX (commence laughing). wink

I did find this though

http//www.tweakxp.com/tweak2068.aspx

I'm gonna backup an image of my current drive, and try that. If it doesn't work, I can always do a fresh install

Whaddya think?[/quotef5fcf3ed64]

I always re-install everything, save myself the trouble of trying to figure thing out. Like what to do XYZ ... alot simpler just to do a fresh install, computers are so fast now, it don't take that much time compare to the past. 1 hr installing WIN98, those days are horrible x On a P4, it only take like 5 to 15 min o[/quotef5fcf3ed64]

OK, just wanted y'all to know that I'm posting this from the Cyberpower PC. )

No reinstall was necessary, as I just followed the instructions on that link, and went a step further and uninstalled all the hardware shown in the device manager before shutting down and switching drives.

I pulled the 80GB Hitachi (Says IBM on invoice) and swapped out my 2 150GBs to the new PC, plus 2 DVD-RWs and my TV card. There was space behind the front vent to add two more case fans, so since I had some, I added them.

There was some human error in the config, like the front panel wiring threaded between the HD brackets, rather than around, and the audio cable pci bracket being on the wrong side of the AGP slot that had to be fixed, but short of my missing light/case, I'm happy.

Sounds like you've got a pretty nice system you're going to be working with ) I'm 8/10 on FreeDesktopPC and processing on FreeMiniMacs so I'll have 3 computers hopefully within a month - month and a half.

(Current) Dell Inspiron 5150 - Everyday use
Cyberpower - Gaming
Mac Mini - Work, graphic design, etc.



D

cyberpower offers a 30 day money back or exchange on the items. contact cyberpower and exchange the mobo, and harddrive for an asus one and some more ram and go buy a better harddrive. you can also get the light from them.

Well, I already contacted them about the discrepancies in my order, so if they or Gratis won't do anything within the next few days, I might take advantage of that.

ya man, their policy says 30 days no matter what. id send it back to them and whatnot. i know im processing right now.

i dont know when i will go STV i been processing a full week now. id like to findout when they send the order to cyberpower so i can tell them to

1.) them to keep the 80 gig harddrive.
2.) upgrade my motherboard to an asus
3.) change that 512 megs of ram to 1 gig of ram
4.) them to keep windows xp (i already got it)
5.) upgrade the video card
6.) upgrade the processor too
7.) them keep their mouse and keyboard
8.) them to keep their cd burner
9.) upgrade the cd burner to a cd burner/cd burner.


basically i want to restructure their whole pc.
id like it to be a amd 3000+, asus board, a better vid card, 1 gig of ram, dvd burner.
i just bought a 160 gig hd for 60 bucks so im waiting for the rest to have a nice ass setup!

That seems a little too good to be true (as [i0b989558e6]technically[/i0b989558e6] Gratis ordered it), but I'll inquire tomorrow.

nah, it is policy it has no bearing on who orderred it or not. their policy states that 30 days of purchase. look at invoice.

[quoteaf49417328="Tholek"]That seems a little too good to be true (as [iaf49417328]technically[/iaf49417328] Gratis ordered it), but I'll inquire tomorrow.[/quoteaf49417328]

Please keep us posted Tholek. I'm still waiting to be approved, and if they allow upgrades on the PC, I might as well keep it (and if I do, I will be pissed that I sold my samsung LCD()

Ugh...

I found out today that Gratis [b25607443d6]IS[/b25607443d6] the only one who can initiate a return, and request a RMA, so kiss [i25607443d6]that[/i25607443d6] idea goodbye. roll

It would be nice to swap out the components I didn't really need (but had no problem with otherwise) for things I could use, but hey, I really want what I was promised in the first place. Everything else would be icing on the cake.

Too bad Gratis' TOC basically says, "We can screw you in the ass and you can't do anything about it. If you're not happy about it go to Offercentric and do one of their offers."
Gotta love contracts.

Hey, that's true of OC too. ;)

When in doubt, pout.

cry

[quote4e065d22c0="wood"]When in doubt, pout.

cry[/quote4e065d22c0]

Hey, even after all this, when you take a step back, it's still a better PC than the Dell. ;)

Any chance of seeing your box all set up? I'm hoping to get the cyberpower and I'd like to see how it [i640e9ee534]really[/i640e9ee534] looks. Congrats.

I posted some pics on GL, but they were internals.

Here's a few

http/" alt=""/img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/Tholek/sidepanel.jpg[/img41590bac7b]

[img="41590bac7b]http/" alt=""/img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/Tholek/tangle.jpg[/img41590bac7b]

[img="41590bac7b]http/" alt=""/img.photobucket.com/albums/v408/Tholek/mobo.jpg[/img41590bac7b]

My camera REALLY sucks balls......never buy Logitech. (

For pics of the case they sent, go back to my first post for links.

I completely missed those links the first time through. Yes, I'm retarded.

Hey, you're not alone.

I forgot to put a link to the nVIDIA card, so I just went back and did that. ;)

So Tholek,

Overal are you happy with your PC?
It might not be as good as it was initially advertised, but still it's not a bad PC. I might even keep it for myself, with some upgrades, but the base is good) Much better for gaming than my notebook pc (even if it has Radeon 9000, which is not that bad card for a notebook pc). A couple of upgrades and it will be perfect;) Now I think I did bad by selling the Samsung monitor... well shit happens all the time lol)

Yes, I am.

It's pretty close to what was advertised, and that still beats the Dell in many areas, so even now I'd pick the Cyberpower.

Hey, remember there were some pleasant surprises as well....

Hasn't anyone else gotten theirs yet?

I'd love to know which mobo they sent you....

Here are some quick pics of mine. Rec'd 3/24. In a rush, will post non-cellphone cam pics tonight.

[250250]http//www.geocities.com/alexwood11/front1.jpg[" alt=""/img8850b08579]




[img="8850b08579][250250]http//www.geocities.com/alexwood11/side1.jpg[" alt=""/img8850b08579]

[img="8850b08579][250250]http//www.geocities.com/alexwood11/package.jpg[" alt=""/img8850b08579]

The XBlade as I thought....

How about the mobo? If you don't wanna open the case, just look at the color of the mobo, or post the item number of the mobo on the invoice.

Thanks

Incidentally, I can see from your last picture you got speakers too. While the online Gratis specs don't include speakers, Cyberpower do send them. They seem to send the 600W choice in their configurator

600WATT PMPO SUBWOOFER STEREO SPEAKERS[=http//www.cyberpowersystem.com/spec/getspec.asp?n=SPEAKERS&v=600WATT%20PMPO%20SUBWOOFER%20STEREO%20SPEAKERS]600WATT PMPO SUBWOOFER STEREO SPEAKERS

As you can see, that's the SPK1050 set you got, while I got SPK-119AA (Black) ones (not shown, but same specs), both distrb. by Aspire

http//www.aspireusa.net/speaker.htm

One of the more pleasant surprises I mentioned...

I forgot to mention a hilarious change on Cyberpowers website....

As I mentioned early on, the Cyberpower mobo that was offered on fdpc.com was the Gigabyte, but when they removed it, I suspected we'd get either that or the Abit, and I posted the info for both.

Well...as you know, I got an MSI, and at the time it wasn't available on Cyberpowers site, but take a look at the [b948cb1b423]SAME[/b948cb1b423] Abit board link now

Abit KV8 PRO VIA K8T800[=http//www.cyberpowersystem.com/spec/getspec.asp?n=MOTHERBOARD&v=%28754-pin%20Socket%29%20Abit%20KV8%20PRO%20VIA%20K8T800%20Chipset%20AGP8X%20w/LAN%2CUSB2%2C%26Audio]Abit KV8 PRO VIA K8T800

You gotta laugh.....

I'd love to know how many people (and I don't even mean us, I mean peple who [i948cb1b423]bought[/i948cb1b423] one) got pissed and contacted Cyberpower over that.

The word "hoodwinked" comes to mind...

Here's the picture of the Abit from the page before they changed it (still on their site)

[600250]http//216.59.137.35/images/mb/mb-145-126.jpg[" alt=""/img948cb1b423]

[quoteb081a79441="Tholek"]I forgot to mention a hilarious change on Cyberpowers website....

As I mentioned early on, the Cyberpower mobo that was offered on fdpc.com was the Gigabyte, but when they removed it, I suspected we'd get either that or the Abit, and I posted the info for both.

Well...as you know, I got an MSI, and at the time it wasn't available on Cyberpowers site, but take a look at the [bb081a79441]SAME[/bb081a79441] Abit board link now

Abit KV8 PRO VIA K8T800[=http//www.cyberpowersystem.com/spec/getspec.asp?n=MOTHERBOARD&v=%28754-pin%20Socket%29%20Abit%20KV8%20PRO%20VIA%20K8T800%20Chipset%20AGP8X%20w/LAN%2CUSB2%2C%26Audio]Abit KV8 PRO VIA K8T800

You gotta laugh.....

I'd love to know how many people (and I don't even mean us, I mean peple who [ib081a79441]bought[/ib081a79441] one) got pissed and contacted Cyberpower over that.

The word "hoodwinked" comes to mind...

Here's the picture of the Abit from the page before they changed it (still on their site)

[600250]http//216.59.137.35/images/mb/mb-145-126.jpg[" alt=""/imgb081a79441][/quoteb081a79441]

I wish I understood wtf that meant lol

Look at the top of that page, then what's below it. ;)

nice.. im looking forward to getting this thing ;]

processing - 15 days


liwood - when you get a chance, post some good quality pics and your reactions to the PC... how is it? im hoping to have it within 2 more weeks

my barton 2500+ pwns all. OCed to 200fsb primed for 12+hrs stable at 2.19ghz total 3200+. pwnage.


But seriously the geforce 4 mx series is toooo weak to be in a a64 system roll

your talking to somebody whos used to integrated video cards... i think anything is better than this

[quoteede26e6a32="ironbeams"]your talking to somebody whos used to integrated video cards... i think anything is better than this[/quoteede26e6a32]


lishiversli i cant stand intergrated, i couldn't even play command and conquer generals with it! evil

[quoteb039286cda="CoMpFrEaK"][quoteb039286cda="ironbeams"]your talking to somebody whos used to integrated video cards... i think anything is better than this[/quoteb039286cda]


lishiversli i cant stand intergrated, i couldn't even play command and conquer generals with it! evil[/quoteb039286cda]

hahaha 1.8ghz, p4 -512ram
the things pretty damn powerful... but integrated video? i swear to god, it could arely handle flash games

now you understand why i want my cyberpower already.. i mean, i got 18 referrals for gratis.. [bb039286cda]18[/bb039286cda]
least they can do is ship to me faster after i made them about 1000 dollars

[quotee70dd92ead="ironbeams"][quotee70dd92ead="CoMpFrEaK"][quotee70dd92ead="ironbeams"]your talking to somebody whos used to integrated video cards... i think anything is better than this[/quotee70dd92ead]


lishiversli i cant stand intergrated, i couldn't even play command and conquer generals with it! evil[/quotee70dd92ead]

hahaha 1.8ghz, p4 -512ram
the things pretty damn powerful... but integrated video? i swear to god, it could arely handle flash games

now you understand why i want my cyberpower already.. i mean, i got 18 referrals for gratis.. [be70dd92ead]18[/be70dd92ead]
least they can do is ship to me faster after i made them about 1000 dollars[/quotee70dd92ead]


The cyberpower is only good caue of its a64 2800+, but then again you may wanna wait a bit and see when microsoft releases their 64 bit operating system, should get interesting, and intel is also going to the 64 bit sector.

intels gonna wait a while... as far as microsoft, i thought they might release a 64 bit sorta soon

either way, who cares.. the athlon 64 runs 32 or 64

[quote4e52f50578="ironbeams"]intels gonna wait a while... as far as microsoft, i thought they might release a 64 bit sorta soon

either way, who cares.. the athlon 64 runs 32 or 64[/quote4e52f50578]


well it should be a significant upgrade, all i know about microsoft is that longhorn is going to be out around late 3rd to mid 4th quarter this year

The only drawback to the MSI board is that you can't lock the AGP/PCI slots, which is a bit of a downer. (Gigabyte would've been better)

I bumped up the FSB to 220Mhz for a mild oc at almost 2Ghz as-is, but when I get more RAM I may bump it up a teeeeensy weeensy bit more. ;)

I see some people are starting to swing towards the Dell now, because of the included monitor....

While I have no affinity towards Cyberpower, hell, I'd want the Dell if it had the same specs, but I'd still be getting the Cyberpower at this point.

In reality, both PCs aren't perfect. They're both around $500 retail, and it shows, but the Cyberpower offers up more retail components tha the Dell which is OEM. That's a OEM case and OEM board, and despite the PCI-E slot, anyone with a PCI-E card would probably want a better board to begin with.

At least the Cyberpower case, which is now the Aspire XBlade can handle a board upgrade and tons of drives to boot. Sadly the Dell case can't. (

What I CAN say for the Dell, is that if you want to sell it, you'll have a better chance at getting the most bucks with the Dell. Other than that, it has a P4HT, and PCI-E which is decent.

The Cyberpower has a really expandable retail case, 512MB DDR RAM, a retail board with SATA [id1018d37c7]and[/id1018d37c7] includes an AGP card (better than the Dell integrated video) It also has the gamer whistles and bells that the Dell is lacking, but to be honest, I consider that fluff. I wanted expandability so I could swap out my current HDs and DVD-RW drives to the new PC, and the Dell couldn't accommodate that, while the XBlade case can.

In the end, and insofar as a PC to "keep" goes, I really think the only issues at play is the PCI-E slot.

Given everything else, I would still stick with the Cyberpower.

Just my 2 cents... ;)