OH NOES! Where Is Jake?!
Gigante
08-06-2006 06:53:03
Jake isn't here right now, get over it. Submit a support ticket because that is what they have customer service for.
amir89630
08-06-2006 08:37:17
I did......... 12 days ago.
Tropic32
08-06-2006 09:31:09
i wish you had a pending approval for 3 months +.
Then you would see why all the choas over where he is.
cmstar
08-06-2006 10:06:28
Many of us HAVE opened cusomer support tickets... weeks and months ago with NO updates. Jake is the last alternative.
petezahut2
08-06-2006 15:55:50
I have had multiple threads closed by Gigante because he said that there were already threads existing about my topic, so I should just post in them. I've already seen plenty of threads about Jake being gone. Why don't you play by your own rules and close your thread.
zwarrior99
08-06-2006 16:08:20
[quote5663605161="petezahut2"]I have had multiple threads closed by Gigante because he said that there were already threads existing about my topic, so I should just post in them. I've already seen plenty of threads about Jake being gone. Why don't you play by your own rules and close your thread.[/quote5663605161]
lmfao
petezahut2
08-06-2006 16:10:09
it's funny because it's true!
Sparhawk226
09-06-2006 06:46:47
[quote019ea06b56="petezahut2"]I have had multiple threads closed by Gigante because he said that there were already threads existing about my topic, so I should just post in them. I've already seen plenty of threads about Jake being gone. Why don't you play by your own rules and close your thread.[/quote019ea06b56]
One thread to rule them all,
one thread to find them,
one thread to bring them all
and in the darkness bind them.
bow
(Oh, and if you didn't catch the reference, consider moving out of that cave. twisted )
petezahut2
09-06-2006 07:13:36
I guess I better move out of my cave then
Ethan
09-06-2006 08:13:47
I got it but I think I oughta be embarassed for having done so.
iamzim
09-06-2006 08:53:33
wow, how does one not get that reference! haha!
amir89630
09-06-2006 11:08:45
but does this thread mean that jake has officially bailed on FiPG.
Cuz I is fucked.
Im out a 300$ GC and a nano, cuz those fools bailed on me.
amir89630
09-06-2006 16:02:38
You remember those CS tickets i opened 13 days ago. Today I have come to find that they have been closed with no reply. And you better beleive that they were the nicest darn CS tickets a CS person ever read.
threatnet7
09-06-2006 16:07:06
rofl
waaaaaa i have to wait for my free/discounted item
WWAAAAAAAA
ipodlover1
09-06-2006 17:13:00
[quote5b92afa3e3="aguy"]waaaaaa i have to wait for my free/discounted item
WWAAAAAAAA[/quote5b92afa3e3]
It's not exactly as if they just place the gift in our laps- we do have to work to get the referrals, do the offer, etc. I think we have a right to be upset.
egyptianruin
10-06-2006 05:45:47
[quote8c59a61678="amir89630"]but does this thread mean that jake has officially bailed on FiPG.
Cuz I is fucked.
Im out a 300$ GC and a nano, cuz those fools bailed on me.[/quote8c59a61678]
I just think Jake is really busy. I don't think he bailed but he isn't paid to post on the forums and it's not like he has an obligation to do so, he just does it.
[quotec3d99ef538="ipodlover1"][quotec3d99ef538="aguy"]waaaaaa i have to wait for my free/discounted item
WWAAAAAAAA[/quotec3d99ef538]
It's not exactly as if they just place the gift in our laps- we do have to work to get the referrals, do the offer, etc. I think we have a right to be upset.[/quotec3d99ef538]
no you dont
read the TOS
it specifically says that no matter what they do u cannot be upset
hey maybe next time.. u can just go pay full price for whatever u want
CollidgeGraduit
10-06-2006 07:35:48
Knock it off please, aguy.. I know where you're coming from, and feel the same way, but all it's going to do is upset people more.
threatnet7
10-06-2006 07:47:01
A little humor never killed anyone at upsetting times
petezahut2
10-06-2006 07:53:44
[quote1c2f3e18fd="petezahut2"]I have had multiple threads closed by Gigante because he said that there were already threads existing about my topic, so I should just post in them. I've already seen plenty of threads about Jake being gone. Why don't you play by your own rules and close your thread.[/quote1c2f3e18fd]
I guess he's not going to reply
amir89630
10-06-2006 08:58:36
i think we are going to need tholek's help in bringing jake back.
Tropic32
10-06-2006 09:16:08
[quote998393e831="aguy"]waaaaaa i have to wait for my free/discounted item
WWAAAAAAAA[/quote998393e831]
Working hard to complete these refs is time consuming.
I never thought freepay would end up with so much delay's or else i'd have just bought it myself. I cant purchase it now, if it was to be sent i do not want to sell it on ebay.
chillywilly
10-06-2006 09:59:28
I can see aguy's repsonse... afterall, Freepay is a company that is interested in profits and staying in business.
And in some odd way, we are their customers. But the difference is, they don't have a store and we don't outright purchase products from them.
Their TOS protects them, with very little protection for the "customer". Since we are at their mercy, there's really no reason to get upset. But do we have the right? Sure we do. A good amount of us here have put lots of efforts into completing these sites to get the freebie. It's expected that after all the work, Freepay changes the rules and makes it even harder to complete the site (and in some cases, almost impossible ie.. laptops).
I've got a good amount of time and money invested and hope it pays off. If it doesn't, well then Freepay loses me as a "customer". As I've said before, some of that is their own doing by placing a time limit on the accounts, which from a business perspective, was a dumb move. From a profit motivated perspective, it was the right choice. Reduce the number of free items you have to send out, while getting more signups and offers completed.
Am I mad at Freepay? Not really. Just bummed that they shut off the option for me to complete more of their sites. Do I expect I'll get my freebie for the last site of their's I've done? Sure, but given their track record of late, it will be at least August before anything happens on my account. Maybe by the time I get my two nanos, they will be the 8gb models that are rumored lol
As for Jake, I appreciate him being out here, but don't expect anything from him or demand anything. If he replies to people's posts, that's a bonus that those of us here on FiPG enjoy over those Freepay "customers" that aren't here don't have. If he's busy helping Freepay play catch-up, then that's another bonus.
Regardless, I think not doing Freepay sites is the best way to send a message to them that we don't agree with the new policies they have forced on us.
Just my two cents on all of this (and obviously hoping for my two nanos to get approved)
chilly willy said it perfect
thread is done
Gigante
10-06-2006 19:20:50
Jake doesn't come here because he loves you guys, it is his job. If Freepay wanted him to come here, he would. Obviously that isn't the case, so stop making posts to Jake.
ilanbg
10-06-2006 19:26:29
Of all the Freepay threads I've read, I'd say 90% have absolutely nothing new in any of its posts. I'd say this thread falls in that group.
johnjimjones
10-06-2006 19:35:01
Jake where are you? I want my camera cry
Gigante
10-06-2006 20:06:44
[quote6515118f31="johnjimjones"]Jake where are you? I want my camera cry[/quote6515118f31]
Jake isn't coming.
johnjimjones
10-06-2006 20:34:32
[quoted79ec5a55f="Gigante"][quoted79ec5a55f="johnjimjones"]Jake where are you? I want my camera cry[/quoted79ec5a55f]
Jake isn't coming.[/quoted79ec5a55f]
http//darthno.ytmnd.com/
Gigante
10-06-2006 20:43:32
lol, nice.
threatnet7
10-06-2006 20:52:04
rofl NOoooooo
lol, that was a great link. +K
amir89630
11-06-2006 07:40:52
So its official that he's not coming back.
zr2152
11-06-2006 08:28:42
i saw him make a post on jun 10 on a thread above this one i believe
zwarrior99
11-06-2006 08:31:41
yes he posted june 10
amir89630
11-06-2006 09:00:48
this says he hasn't posted since the 25th
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/search.php?search_author=Jake
doesn't make sense unless he deleted his post.
johnjimjones
11-06-2006 09:06:53
Yeah I don't see anything either
petezahut2
11-06-2006 09:28:33
[quote5edbdaa8cc="ilanbg"]Of all the Freepay threads I've read, I'd say 90% have absolutely nothing new in any of its posts. I'd say this thread falls in that group.[/quote5edbdaa8cc]
my initial point
Gigante
11-06-2006 15:56:47
[quotefc96d8f6a6="petezahut2"][quotefc96d8f6a6="ilanbg"]Of all the Freepay threads I've read, I'd say 90% have absolutely nothing new in any of its posts. I'd say this thread falls in that group.[/quotefc96d8f6a6]
my initial point[/quotefc96d8f6a6]
Hmm...Funny, I was just thinking the same thing about your posts.
nobody2000
11-06-2006 16:00:30
BUUUUURRRRRRNNNNNN!
egyptianruin
11-06-2006 16:52:59
LOL Gigante +Karma for making me laugh when I am sick.
amir89630
12-06-2006 18:46:50
HORRAY freepay extended me deadline.
zr2152
12-06-2006 20:48:57
he posted towards the bottom on June 10th http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=15198\
maybe hes sick of everyone bitching about freepay..lol..hope thats not the case
evilfury69
12-06-2006 21:04:33
June 10th......2005. roll
doylnea
12-06-2006 21:04:42
[quote42a8e507c7="zr2152"]he posted towards the bottom on June 10th http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=15198\
maybe hes sick of everyone bitching about freepay..lol..hope thats not the case[/quote42a8e507c7]
That was 2005.
samz465
12-06-2006 21:12:07
loll
Nice one!
zr2152
12-06-2006 21:23:56
damnn sorry guys..hey i wasnt the only one that thouhgt that...haha
Iloveipods2
12-06-2006 21:24:42
well in accord with past holidays, I'm sure Jake must get some absurd amount of days off for summer break. lol either that or he's still off from labor day! lol
Tholek
13-06-2006 01:30:22
[quote1be5d3229a="amir89630"]i think we are going to need tholek's help in bringing jake back.[/quote1be5d3229a]
There's nothing I can do if peek-a-boo Jake sees the Jakesignal and doesn't come. (
[quote0fac529846="amir89630"]i think we are going to need tholek's help in bringing jake back.[/quote0fac529846]
where is that ouija board thread?
amir89630
13-06-2006 17:03:31
ok dos questions.
1. how long has jake been around helping the forum
2. has every in jakey history, jake done anything like this.
Gigante
15-06-2006 07:26:33
He has been here a little over a year.
And what do you mean has he done anything like this?
Has he disappeared for this long after a minor holiday?
Gigante
15-06-2006 17:28:19
He is gone for good, not a holiday. It isn't temporary. People just don't want to accept that.
Wolfeman
15-06-2006 17:29:47
[quote60061137b7="Gigante"]He is gone for good, not a holiday. It isn't temporary. People just don't want to accept that.[/quote60061137b7]
This is true, its a fact. People abused it and ruined it...
ilanbg
15-06-2006 17:35:21
Or maybe the Freepay staff realized there wasn't much point in appeasing a freebie community that they were desperately trying to rid from their user base.
ajrock2000
15-06-2006 18:02:08
[quoteedb34c96e5="ilanbg"]Or maybe the Freepay staff realized there wasn't much point in appeasing a freebie community that they were desperately trying to rid from their user base.[/quoteedb34c96e5]
Sounds more like it.
Tholek
15-06-2006 19:16:56
Sad. I had so much more Jake related material too. (
/me deletes the rest of his photoshops...
amir89630
15-06-2006 21:54:28
cry
ilanbg
15-06-2006 21:55:40
You'd think he'd have said goodbye. We were his friends...
amir89630
15-06-2006 21:56:23
[quotec0b05c7d1b="Gigante"]He has been here a little over a year.
And what do you mean has he done anything like this?[/quotec0b05c7d1b]
dissppeared for an extended period of time. Gigante, did jake tell you that he was leaving. For all we know jake could be in a coma, just begging to wake up and come back to the forum.
chillywilly
16-06-2006 07:40:36
[quotef067860999="ilanbg"]Or maybe the Freepay staff realized there wasn't much point in appeasing a freebie community that they were desperately trying to rid from their user base.[/quotef067860999]
I think this sounds more like it, too.
But, to give Jake the benefit of doubt here, I'd say he's pretty busy helping with approving accounts, given the speed some of these have been approved in the last week. (including mine)
Gigante
16-06-2006 08:43:25
As Wolfeman said, it is confirmed. Jake has been moved to other internal positions.
chillywilly
16-06-2006 08:59:05
[quote7e1a92e42e="Gigante"]As Wolfeman said, it is confirmed. Jake has been moved to other internal positions.[/quote7e1a92e42e]
So we are on our own here now when it comes to Freepay issues and questions.
like "Lord of the Flies" in the freebie world.
Wolfeman
16-06-2006 11:27:11
If you have questions you gotta use their support. Jake isn't coming back. It wasn't his decission but I'm sure he's happy to not have to deal with 20,000 PMs a day...
Gigante
16-06-2006 11:35:03
The support system was created to assist. I don't see why people feel they are entitled to preferential treatment because they belong to a freebie forum.
amir89630
16-06-2006 11:49:28
but the cS system takes an average of a week to give u an answer on something. It sucks.
Wolfeman
16-06-2006 11:52:11
Oh well, get used to it. Jake isn't coming back...
Gigante
16-06-2006 12:03:52
[quote56b26b980b="Wolfeman"]Oh well, get used to it. Jake isn't coming back...[/quote56b26b980b]
fo' sho'
chillywilly
16-06-2006 13:16:06
[quoted3d5d3244a="Gigante"]The support system was created to assist. I don't see why people feel they are entitled to preferential treatment because they belong to a freebie forum.[/quoted3d5d3244a]
I don't think it was so much preferential treatment. It was a nice gesture by a company that seems to care about a community of customers.
Maybe those that abused Jake's time here by sending 20,000 PMs didn't help, but for some of us, we did appreciate Jake.
For cases like the switching of the Nano site, it was very nice to have a rep here to calm the storm and get the details of what happened - which was quick in response.
If Jake leaving means that Freepay will be speedier and more proactive in answering questions that get posed (not canned responses that don't address the question), then that's a good thing for everyone, freebie community and average users that signup.
Gigante
16-06-2006 13:20:27
[quotef1e2cfe07c="chillywilly"][quotef1e2cfe07c="Gigante"]The support system was created to assist. I don't see why people feel they are entitled to preferential treatment because they belong to a freebie forum.[/quotef1e2cfe07c]
I don't think it was so much preferential treatment. It was a nice gesture by a company that seems to care about a community of customers.
Maybe those that abused Jake's time here by sending 20,000 PMs didn't help, but for some of us, we did appreciate Jake.
For cases like the switching of the Nano site, it was very nice to have a rep here to calm the storm and get the details of what happened - which was quick in response.
If Jake leaving means that Freepay will be speedier and more proactive in answering questions that get posed (not canned responses that don't address the question), then that's a good thing for everyone, freebie community and average users that signup.[/quotef1e2cfe07c]
Yeah, we will see how it pans out in the long run.
amir89630
16-06-2006 17:38:54
it would have been nice of jake just to say goodbye, i thought we were friends.
Or just stay around and laugh w/ us on the off topic forum.
But the way he's doing it now, he hurt my feelings really bad.
Wolfeman
16-06-2006 18:33:20
He was friends with some of us and we still talk...
ilanbg
16-06-2006 18:42:31
[quote6fc7315059="chillywilly"]like "Lord of the Flies" in the freebie world.[/quote6fc7315059]
Which of us will be the first to crack, I wonder...
Tholek
17-06-2006 13:15:27
[quote5ccd787157="Wolfeman"]He was friends with some of us and we still talk...[/quote5ccd787157]
Well, now I just feel hurt...
PropHet
18-06-2006 06:43:44
You guys all need to stop.
He wasn't here to be friends with anyone. He was here as a gesture from FreePay. He was here as a paid representative from a company.
When I first came to this forum I was shocked to see a FreePay rep here. Having a rep running around here just makes it that much easier to get free stuff. He was resolving issues that would have just died otherwise. FreePay has made less money for the time Jake was here helping. He was keeping the hopes of all kinds of people alive which translated into completed offers and more free stuff being shipped out. In short he was more likely costing the company money than making the company money.
Now obviously FreePay wants to send out a certain ammount of free stuff because that generates a lot of sign ups. It's a delicate balance for sure.
Jake did a very good job and I'm sure FreePay got tired of paying someone to troll these forums. There is little return on their investment because we aren't really customers in the true sense of the word. We are more like runners in a race against a 90 day clock to win a prize.
amir89630
18-06-2006 09:37:14
im sure jakes whole job didn't consist of being on this forum. Im sure he did other shit too.
PropHet
18-06-2006 09:59:09
I bet these forums and all the PM's kept him busier than anyone knows.
I bet he got hundreds of PMs. Keeping up with those is more than a part time responsibility.
nickČ
18-06-2006 12:45:28
Well, freepay is probably cutting mass amounts of staff, which is the last thing a company does before they go under. I wouldn't be suprised if Jake is no longer employed, or has to now fill the empty position of other employees.
Its quite clear freepay is having monetary problems, so I don't think anyone should expect their "free" stuff. It appears they aren't really sending out any products, (maybe a handful out of thousands per week... so it looks like things are over for them...
schf0ol3d
18-06-2006 13:09:52
[quote339cd4206f="nickČ"]Its quite clear freepay is having monetary problems, so I don't think anyone should expect their "free" stuff. It appears they aren't really sending out any products, (maybe a handful out of thousands per week... so it looks like things are over for them...[/quote339cd4206f]
...and just in time for me to hear this right after I signed up for their psps. (
Gigante
18-06-2006 13:10:44
[quoteb8636183a1="nickČ"]Well, freepay is probably cutting mass amounts of staff, which is the last thing a company does before they go under. I wouldn't be suprised if Jake is no longer employed, or has to now fill the empty position of other employees.
Its quite clear freepay is having monetary problems, so I don't think anyone should expect their "free" stuff. It appears they aren't really sending out any products, (maybe a handful out of thousands per week... so it looks like things are over for them...[/quoteb8636183a1]
Thanks for your expert opinion. Jake still works at Freepay.
PropHet
18-06-2006 13:12:15
When and if FreePay ever goes under there will be no doubt. It will be incredibly obvious. We have seen nothing to suggest that. Yes, they are making things harder to complete but that is there perogative.
Wolfeman
18-06-2006 13:12:16
[quote52690a6db5="nickČ"]Well, freepay is probably cutting mass amounts of staff, which is the last thing a company does before they go under. I wouldn't be suprised if Jake is no longer employed, or has to now fill the empty position of other employees.
Its quite clear freepay is having monetary problems, so I don't think anyone should expect their "free" stuff. It appears they aren't really sending out any products, (maybe a handful out of thousands per week... so it looks like things are over for them...[/quote52690a6db5]
Jake last job function was coming here to answer questions. I love when people come here and state things like they are fact and then draw retarded conclusions from them. Freepay was hiring as of not very long ago. They've always had a small staff buts probably 3 times if not more than when it first started. What is quite clear is that you don't know much but like to pretend. They are still sending out a lot of stuff, just because people aren't on the forums bragging doesn't mean it isn't happening. Freepay isn't going anywhere...
johnjimjones
18-06-2006 14:36:50
I'll consider them "sending out a lot of stuff" when I see my camera that's been waiting since the new rule was implemented.
ilanbg
18-06-2006 15:01:26
[quotead04cc5192]Jake last job function was coming here to answer questions. I love when people come here and state things like they are fact and then draw retarded conclusions from them. Freepay was hiring as of not very long ago. They've always had a small staff buts probably 3 times if not more than when it first started. What is quite clear is that you don't know much but like to pretend. [bad04cc5192]They are still sending out a lot of stuff, just because people aren't on the forums bragging doesn't mean it isn't happening. Freepay isn't going anywhere...[/bad04cc5192][/quotead04cc5192]
Where's your proof of that? It sounds like that's as much of a conclusion without base as nick^2's.
Wolfeman
18-06-2006 15:09:14
I know what I'm talking about, I don't have to prove myself.
Tropic32
18-06-2006 15:20:53
[quote141c0d656c="Wolfeman"]I know what I'm talking about, I don't have to prove myself.[/quote141c0d656c]
Actually you dont know what you are talking about.
Freepay is not stable nor is it back to which it once was.
So as a mod of a great forum, i suggest you keep your opinions neutral and statements backed up with facts, it can be proved that freepay has neglected its part of its service as to send out gifts for its end of the contract we all completed long ago. I doubt things will pick up anytime soon or maybe ever.
johnjimjones
18-06-2006 15:22:08
[quote99ce0f6aec="Tropic32"][quote99ce0f6aec="Wolfeman"]I know what I'm talking about, I don't have to prove myself.[/quote99ce0f6aec]
Actually you dont know what you are talking about.
Freepay is not stable nor is it back to which it once was.
So as a mod of a great forum, i suggest you keep your opinions neutral and statements backed up with facts, it can be proved that freepay has neglected its part of its service as to send out gifts for its end of the contract we all completed long ago. I doubt things will pick up anytime soon or maybe ever.[/quote99ce0f6aec]
You must know this from your extensive experience.
Tropic32
18-06-2006 15:28:45
[quoteb66f3f0c75="johnjimjones"][quoteb66f3f0c75="Tropic32"][quoteb66f3f0c75="Wolfeman"]I know what I'm talking about, I don't have to prove myself.[/quoteb66f3f0c75]
Actually you dont know what you are talking about.
Freepay is not stable nor is it back to which it once was.
So as a mod of a great forum, i suggest you keep your opinions neutral and statements backed up with facts, it can be proved that freepay has neglected its part of its service as to send out gifts for its end of the contract we all completed long ago. I doubt things will pick up anytime soon or maybe ever.[/quoteb66f3f0c75]
You must know this from your extensive experience.[/quoteb66f3f0c75]
I've trolled here previously and i frequented many other boards with as much traffic if not more. I can understand how the mods sometimes get treated unfairly. But its the simple fact that some people think freepay is so "Great" and remains the top legit freebie company. I suggest you take a look at the BBB reports. Its not what it used to be.
Wolfeman
18-06-2006 15:32:25
Freepay is the most legit and stable of all the companies. You don't see Trainn in Forbes do you? Show me in their tems where it says they HAVE to ship gifts in a certain timeframe? People wait 4+ months for DIY sites and never say a single word...
Tropic32
18-06-2006 15:35:58
[quoteb084b81bfd="Wolfeman"]Freepay is the most legit and stable of all the companies. You don't see Trainn in Forbes do you? Show me in their tems where it says they HAVE to ship gifts in a certain timeframe? People wait 4+ months for DIY sites and never say a single word...[/quoteb084b81bfd]
Your right, but what it was then and now is what concerns us. We are waiting for their end of the deal to be completed. Its not our fault that they had to undergo some changes within the company, if its in Forbes it should understand basic business practices and how consumers react to certain delays. If you believe freepay will remain the gaint it once was, you might be in for a suprise. I doubt it, i hope they do, but i doubt it.
ilanbg
18-06-2006 17:09:52
[quote45f7a17629="Wolfeman"]I know what I'm talking about, I don't have to prove myself.[/quote45f7a17629]
Of course you don't. roll
[quote45f7a17629="Wolfeman"]Freepay is the most legit and stable of all the companies. You don't see Trainn in Forbes do you?[/quote45f7a17629]
I also see
50 Cent[=http//www.forbes.com/lists/2006/53/M80Q.html]50 Cent in Forbes as well.
Wolfeman
18-06-2006 19:45:05
What does that mean? None of anyone's crying or bitching does anything so keep on doing it, just do it somewhere else...
chillywilly
18-06-2006 22:32:04
[quotedb9fab1663="ilanbg"][quotedb9fab1663="chillywilly"]like "Lord of the Flies" in the freebie world.[/quotedb9fab1663]
Which of us will be the first to crack, I wonder...[/quotedb9fab1663]
I was close to it when the nano site switched. But it's better now.
chillywilly
18-06-2006 22:37:49
[quotea6ebe6538c="Wolfeman"]Freepay is the most legit and stable of all the companies. You don't see Trainn in Forbes do you? Show me in their tems where it says they HAVE to ship gifts in a certain timeframe? People wait 4+ months for DIY sites and never say a single word...[/quotea6ebe6538c]
That's true, but I think (at least until the last 10 days) it was the switching from the online approval to sending in the form that got people worried or concerned about Freepay, thinking it was another way of them to delay sending out a free gift. Now I know it was another way to stop fraud, but even still, for those that were legit, it was a small slap in the face.
Now that it seems approvals are happening quicker, it could have been just the lull that happened when switching to the new steps of approval. Having to go over a paper form (or a large stack of them) can be time consuming if you are not ready for it.
Gigante
18-06-2006 23:11:08
Freepay has been making vast improvements to the approval process, similar to what they did with their customer service.
amir89630
18-06-2006 23:48:53
[quotefe708f3019="ilanbg"][quotefe708f3019="Wolfeman"]I know what I'm talking about, I don't have to prove myself.[/quotefe708f3019]
Of course you don't. roll
[quotefe708f3019="Wolfeman"]Freepay is the most legit and stable of all the companies. You don't see Trainn in Forbes do you?[/quotefe708f3019]
I also see
50 Cent[=http//www.forbes.com/lists/2006/53/M80Q.html]50 Cent in Forbes as well.[/quotefe708f3019]
50 Cent > Freepay.
CollidgeGraduit
19-06-2006 02:51:45
[quote49085bd5b4="Tropic32"][quote49085bd5b4="johnjimjones"][quote49085bd5b4="Tropic32"][quote49085bd5b4="Wolfeman"]I know what I'm talking about, I don't have to prove myself.[/quote49085bd5b4]
Actually you dont know what you are talking about.
Freepay is not stable nor is it back to which it once was.
So as a mod of a great forum, i suggest you keep your opinions neutral and statements backed up with facts, it can be proved that freepay has neglected its part of its service as to send out gifts for its end of the contract we all completed long ago. I doubt things will pick up anytime soon or maybe ever.[/quote49085bd5b4]
You must know this from your extensive experience.[/quote49085bd5b4]
I've trolled here previously and i frequented many other boards with as much traffic if not more. I can understand how the mods sometimes get treated unfairly. But its the simple fact that some people think freepay is so "Great" and remains the top legit freebie company. I suggest you take a look at the BBB reports. Its not what it used to be.[/quote49085bd5b4]
It can be proved that Freepay has neglected customer service and shipping gifts, but not that it's a sign that they're going under. I communicate with Jake on a daily basis. FreePay has not been firing people, they aren't short on money. They're going through growing pains like any other company does, especially when they have grown so much, so quickly.
FreePay is in the midst of getting other projects going, because of the eventual death of the freebie scene (eventually, there's just not going to be good offers left for people to do -- they will have done them all, or the advertisers will get sick of paying out for cancellations). Sometimes with a small business, you don't have the luxury of hiring a ton of people in anticipation of increased business -- you have to get some increased business and then you can afford to do the hiring.
Jake's not dead or on vacation, FreePay is streamlining everything the employees are doing -- and frankly, wading through conspiracy theories on the forum and abusive PMs weren't on the top of FreePay's list of duties for him.
I'm sure a lot of you won't believe me, but FreePay is trying to use their popularity and money to get themselves established in some more permanently-feasible work in addition to their current sites.
nickČ
19-06-2006 07:23:05
I'm a little suprised that my allegations were called unsupported. Its not a conspiracy theory, its an observation.
If I remember correctly the change in the approval process was officially stated as being done because the accounts for partially completed gifts were considered a financial liability (I believe Jake said something about this).
As far as not sending out gifts, yeah... It's not happening. Everyone I know is stalled out in the process, even after being approved. Now, if they really wanted to promote their good name, they'd ship people their ipod or psp promptly (I mean within 2 months, not 6-8)....
So either they don't care about staying in business (a bad business plan), or they simply don't have the cash to pay for it. News flash, there is no shortage of ipods. Its very easy to buy from Apple directly, in bulk. Its very easy to buy from prominent drop shipping electronic warehouses cheaply.
The heart of the problem is that advertisers have probably cut the money value of leads to their ads. This means your 5+ referrals don't go as far as they used to. Now every gift probably puts them deeper in the negative.
I can't really say I blame them. They are just trying to stay afloat... It still stinks for us though.
kposse77
19-06-2006 14:59:59
[quote217414ac1f="CollidgeGraduit"]
It can be proved that Freepay has neglected customer service and shipping gifts, but not that it's a sign that they're going under. I communicate with Jake on a daily basis. FreePay has not been firing people, they aren't short on money. They're going through growing pains like any other company does, especially when they have grown so much, so quickly.
FreePay is in the midst of getting other projects going, because of the eventual death of the freebie scene (eventually, there's just not going to be good offers left for people to do -- they will have done them all, or the advertisers will get sick of paying out for cancellations). Sometimes with a small business, you don't have the luxury of hiring a ton of people in anticipation of increased business -- you have to get some increased business and then you can afford to do the hiring.
Jake's not dead or on vacation, FreePay is streamlining everything the employees are doing -- and frankly, wading through conspiracy theories on the forum and abusive PMs weren't on the top of FreePay's list of duties for him.
I'm sure a lot of you won't believe me, but FreePay is trying to use their popularity and money to get themselves established in some more permanently-feasible work in addition to their current sites.[/quote217414ac1f]
Well put. +kma
zr2152
19-06-2006 15:11:06
Well all im saying is that i hope that i get my 360 from freepay (i dont care if it takes 6 months) because i paid 140 bucks to finish my 8 referrals and then i got 2 more on top of that just incase some go on hold. And about the long shipment time. I had a friend that signed up for a nano about a month before "the form" had to be sent out for approval and it still took him a month to get his freebie. SO im just saying that i dont think that its just because of the new process. ANd like someone was saying earlier-im sure thaty are just starting to be getting adjusted to the new process that they have, witht he form and all. It seems to me that they are finally getting everything back together and getting things shipped out. I hope this is the case.
jamie123
24-06-2006 08:54:59
[quoteae264f6e17="Gigante"][quoteae264f6e17="nickČ"]Well, freepay is probably cutting mass amounts of staff, which is the last thing a company does before they go under. I wouldn't be suprised if Jake is no longer employed, or has to now fill the empty position of other employees.
Its quite clear freepay is having monetary problems, so I don't think anyone should expect their "free" stuff. It appears they aren't really sending out any products, (maybe a handful out of thousands per week... so it looks like things are over for them...[/quoteae264f6e17]
Thanks for your expert opinion. Jake still works at Freepay.[/quoteae264f6e17]
lmao @ whoever said the freepay cutting staff thing.. is anyone aware that freepay has ...about 8 employees? what's a mass amount of staff? 3 people?
and they do not have monetary problems, 20 milliond ollars they made / 8..hm, NONE of these guysare on the streets begging for money, don't worry about ol'freepay, they're doing just fine
KeithA
24-06-2006 09:27:35
The $20 million was revenue, not profit. The money they "made" (profit) is $20 million minus the cost of gifts, salaries, rent, utility costs, etc., etc., etc. That figure is nowhere near $20 million.
bballp6699
24-06-2006 09:48:20
The reason freepay is in Forbes and not Trainn has nothing to do with stability right now. It has to do with the fact that they were there from the beginning and claimed all the famous site names. Freeipods is a lot easier for someone to remember than YourFreeTVFromUsWithoutPay.com. Or whatever URL Trainn uses these days.
The fact they have been running for a long time does factor in, but if people really knew the facts as well as some experienced freebie goers, they would choose a different path.
kagai
24-06-2006 12:41:15
Let me tell you this about Trainn, within 2.5 weeks, I was approved, shipped, received a 30GB Ipod from flashipods4free.com. 2.5 WEEKS, once submitted for approval, including receipt!!!!
Let's see, how long have I been waiting for approval from Freepay for the Xbox 360...hmmm, 1...2...3 months, FOR APPROVAL!!!!! Don't diss Trainn, they get the job done, quickly and efficiently. Too bad Freepay can't say the same thing! (Probably because they don't have a CANNED response for actually doing things right!)
Gigante
24-06-2006 12:50:08
[quote9f33b4ffa5="jamie123"][quote9f33b4ffa5="Gigante"][quote9f33b4ffa5="nickČ"]Well, freepay is probably cutting mass amounts of staff, which is the last thing a company does before they go under. I wouldn't be suprised if Jake is no longer employed, or has to now fill the empty position of other employees.
Its quite clear freepay is having monetary problems, so I don't think anyone should expect their "free" stuff. It appears they aren't really sending out any products, (maybe a handful out of thousands per week... so it looks like things are over for them...[/quote9f33b4ffa5]
Thanks for your expert opinion. Jake still works at Freepay.[/quote9f33b4ffa5]
lmao @ whoever said the freepay cutting staff thing.. is anyone aware that freepay has ...about 8 employees? what's a mass amount of staff? 3 people?
and they do not have monetary problems, 20 milliond ollars they made / 8..hm, NONE of these guysare on the streets begging for money, don't worry about ol'freepay, they're doing just fine[/quote9f33b4ffa5]
And you think they have 8 employess because....
ILoveToys
24-06-2006 13:14:02
Why is this becoming a war were the mods here @ FIPG say cryptic things about Jake and how freepay is expanding into other areas of business, and the members of FIPG saying that freepay could do better?
Mods if you actually have some great amount of information that makes the delays so clear to you, why don't you share those with everyone here? Does it matter if they have 8 employees or 100? I tend to doubt it. I mean come on. Free stuff is cool, but some people on this forum really need to step off the internet for a few days and make an attempt at getting a life.
I don't think even the mods here can deny that freepay is currently in a state that is quite diminished from what they once were, even if they are still very legit and the [i3a62f38383]best[/i3a62f38383] out there on the freebie scene. I'm just saying freepay is cutting corners and it's likely not because they are so overwhelmed with their new process, but because they are choosing to draw things out for whatever reason (Probably investing money to earn some good interest before they ship gifts).
Also the last time I checked TRAINN was still sending out [b3a62f38383]new[/b3a62f38383] gifts, and not the refurb crap that psp customers have been getting from freepay.
From my observations, I am led to believe that freepay has decided to make all business decisions based on the bottom line. I definitely cannot blame them for that. That would add some weight to the argument that they are expanding into other markets and such due to the fact that the freebie scene will eventually dry up. Freepay will ship our gifts that we are owed; the only questions are is when and what condition will our gifts be that we receive.
I don't blame freepay for the choices they are making, I understand them, but I do think many of them are very bush league.
nobody2000
24-06-2006 14:23:32
Hmmm...Ken Lay gets convicted/sentenced, 6-6-6 happens, and now freepay is cutting staff...I sense a correlation...
Yeah, Freepay is a pain right now, and i hate it like the rest of you. Deal with it...
However [b07f7d9c5ca]I KNOW FOR A FACT[/b07f7d9c5ca] that you can get all the things that you can get on freepay for retail price at stores like bestbuy. That and Jake got abducted by aliens.
You're getting cool shit for 75% or more off. deal with it. You act like freepay OWES you something. Yes, they do, but they don't owe you enough to deal with the constant bullshit everyone gives.
Wolfeman
24-06-2006 14:24:33
FREEPAY IS NOT CUTTING STAFF!!!!!!!
ILoveToys
24-06-2006 15:56:33
[quote1b009362e8="nobody2000"]You're getting cool shit for 75% or more off. deal with it. You act like freepay OWES you something. Yes, they do, but they don't owe you enough to deal with the constant bullshit everyone gives.[/quote1b009362e8]
Nobody would give freepay a hard time if they had continued to process accounts in a timely manner.
nobody2000
25-06-2006 12:23:30
[quote024bb984c9="Wolfeman"]FREEPAY IS NOT CUTTING STAFF!!!!!!![/quote024bb984c9]
My post was oozing sarcasm..
Wolfeman
25-06-2006 12:26:51
[quoteb3ed14c7bc="nobody2000"][quoteb3ed14c7bc="Wolfeman"]FREEPAY IS NOT CUTTING STAFF!!!!!!![/quoteb3ed14c7bc]
My post was oozing sarcasm..[/quoteb3ed14c7bc]
Taste my sad!
nobody2000
25-06-2006 15:56:32
Tastes a lot like freepay...
nickČ
26-06-2006 08:37:19
I always laugh when people say something like "freepay doesn't owe you anything". Of course they do. They owe you the item that you completed your referral obligations for.
Every time someone signs up for freepay, they make a bet that you won't complete the terms of the offered contract. When they lose that bet, then they are obligated to pay out. Its that simple. Anything else is illegal and fraudulent.
As far as the cutting staff comments, that was a guess based on the fact that they are having financial problems. Maybe with the new terms they will be netting positive returns.
Just out of curiosity, what's this site's assosciation with freepay?
amir89630
26-06-2006 09:01:53
[quotef244a3480d="nickČ"]I always laugh when people say something like "freepay doesn't owe you anything". Of course they do. They owe you the item that you completed your referral obligations for.
Every time someone signs up for freepay, they make a bet that you won't complete the terms of the offered contract. When they lose that bet, then they are obligated to pay out. Its that simple. Anything else is illegal and fraudulent.
As far as the cutting staff comments, that was a guess based on the fact that they are having financial problems. Maybe with the new terms they will be netting positive returns.
Just out of curiosity, what's this site's assosciation with freepay?[/quotef244a3480d]
thats a damned good point.
CollidgeGraduit
26-06-2006 09:05:06
[quote0fbc3b35fd="nickČ"]I always laugh when people say something like "freepay doesn't owe you anything". Of course they do. They owe you the item that you completed your referral obligations for.
Every time someone signs up for freepay, they make a bet that you won't complete the terms of the offered contract. When they lose that bet, then they are obligated to pay out. Its that simple. Anything else is illegal and fraudulent.
As far as the cutting staff comments, that was a guess based on the fact that they are having financial problems. Maybe with the new terms they will be netting positive returns.
Just out of curiosity, what's this site's assosciation with freepay?[/quote0fbc3b35fd]
No association, other than us having the privilege of a FreePay rep visiting to answer questions and help out. Both times that we had the privilege, the rep had to deal with abusive PMs, so they left.
Admin
26-06-2006 20:45:07
You guys are really thick if you think freepay (or any other freebie site) is in the business of sending out gifts. They're in the business of LEAD GENERATION for advertisers, and they do that by incenting people to sign up using gifts. They get "people" to sign up by doing their own advertising - CPA campaigns that pay on the email submit. THAT is their business. Honest to god they could still make a significant amount of money if they never sent out another gift just because people will still do offers for the "promise".
I don't get what you guys are trying to accomplish with all this yelling and beating of chests. If you think freepay gives a shit you've got a lot to learn.
edit no, it's neither illegal nor fraudulent for them to not send gifts. The Terms of Service, to which you explicitly assented upon signup, explicitly release freepay from all liabilities.
nickČ
27-06-2006 10:08:20
You are right in a sense... Freepay doesn't make any money by sending gifts.. They lose money... They are using a new form of advertising to make money..
Of course freepay doesn't really care if we are upset. They are a business, and they are probably more about money than making us happy.
You are wrong, however, about not being fraudulent if no gift is sent out... not unless they go out of business that is...
There are several laws governing this type of activity and it is indeed very illegal to say "do this and we will send you a free gift", only to not follow through. They can write whatever they want in their lengthy terms of service, but their terms of service cannot override existing federal and state advertising laws. If this point is ever reached, a simple call to the attorney general who has jurisdiction over the area in their place of business could result in an investigation... If this was proven true, they'd most certainly be shut down.
It should be noted that this is only meant to cover your response indicating that freepay could generate all the leads they want and never send out a gift. I'm not suggesting that is what freepay is doing... I have a different idea of their current situation. Nevertheless, I felt it important to correct this.
topbillin1
27-06-2006 16:41:23
I think Freepay is trying to expand into other areas since the freebie scene is slowly dying. It's too easy to complete sites and Freepay is losing alot of money so they made changes. Approvals are about 30 to 45 days now with gifts being sent out about 30 days after that so that's 2 months right there alone, I will agree that they are in hot water since they made such a big fall off and completly lost trust of a good percentage of they're users who don't do their sites.
Also the L_______t that they have against them isn't gonna help either so I don't know what to say about them, they're future isn't bright at all to me, they seem to know that the incentive world isn't getting the right people the right results and are seem to be changing up.
But I think they do what they do currently since it's fact that most of us freebie site doers are young and they know a good portion cheat and fraud so they can bullshit us and give us long waiting times and get away with it.
They know thier audience so they take advantage of it....