WTF
chazmann
01-03-2006 09:40:47
Any one check their messages on any freepay site?
[be25d7a88e8] Important Change to Terms & Conditions
li With a start date of March 1, 2006 – users of FreePay websites have 90 days to complete all offer requirements.
li Upon completion of all offer requirements, existing users will need to print a “Redemption Form” that must be filled out in its entirety and mailed with a postmarked date no later than 30 days of completing their offer requirements.
You will find an indication of how many days you have left to complete the requirements on the Status page. When you have completed the requirements you will be able to download the redemption form from the Status page. [/be25d7a88e8]
90 days to get all your refferals? What a fucking joke.
Redemption forms? So now I have to print out a piece of paper and wait 30 days for it go through?
Dude, Im only touching trainn sites from now on. I dont want another ipod anyway, I'd rather just take paypal.
[quoteee4051f738="chazmann"]
90 days to get all your refferals? What a fucking joke.
[/quoteee4051f738]
If you saw this situation from our point of view and understood how the whole system works, you would understand why these changes are in place.
[quoteee4051f738="chazmann"]
Redemption forms? So now I have to print out a piece of paper and wait 30 days for it go through?
[/quoteee4051f738]
No, it says you need to fill out the form and send it in WITHIN 30 days of your account approval.
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 09:51:42
ouch, 90 days. Honestly, that is a little time. I'm lucky enough just to get two greens in one month
drunkmonkey
01-03-2006 09:52:26
Jake, I'm a little confused by this. Does this form apply to people currently processing or pending approval, or just those who submit for approval after 3/1? (BTW, I'm still in "Pending Approval" after being in "Processing" for months.)
[quote597dcf309d="drunkmonkey"]Jake, I'm a little confused by this. Does this form apply to people currently processing or pending approval, or just those who submit for approval after 3/1? (BTW, I'm still in "Pending Approval" after being in "Processing" for months.)[/quote597dcf309d]
I will have full details later today or tomorrow.
I knew this change was coming but didn't know the final details until now. I have sent an email asking to explain the situation you are describing and I will let you know when I hear about it.
chazmann
01-03-2006 09:55:11
I dont see why I get stuck with this new approval process when I already APPLIED yesterday x
Supacold
01-03-2006 09:58:08
I had completed my offer and referred 7 people and 1 person wasn pending. and when i checked my account ALL OF MY REFERRALS AND OFFER were WIPED clean Except for 2 refeerrals!
Please tell me that i do not have to get my referrals all over again!!!
i was only waiting for the last person to be credit and i was going to be done!
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 09:59:43
my friends are going to be pissed. I showed them the site, they are aren't as into getting referrals like me, but they are trying really hard, and now they only have a 90 day limit (3 months)?
jeff7602
01-03-2006 10:00:39
[quote040d263163="Supacold"]I had completed my offer and referred 7 people and 1 person wasn pending. and when i checked my account ALL OF MY REFERRALS AND OFFER were WIPED clean Except for 2 refeerrals!
Please tell me that i do not have to get my referrals all over again!!!
i was only waiting for the last person to be credit and i was going to be done![/quote040d263163]
I'm in the exact same boat. This better turn out better than it's looking right now.
Supacold
01-03-2006 10:00:41
i dont understand if i had 90 days to complete why were my 5 referrals and my offer were deleted!??!?
PLEASE TELL ME IT WAS JUST AN ERROR!!
They are fixing this error as we speak.
I made them aware of it when I first heard the reports come out so they know its happening and are working on it.
chazmann
01-03-2006 10:02:15
I dont see why this new rule applies to people who were already in approval status.....
Please elaborate.
Supacold
01-03-2006 10:02:28
[quote455a4aed32="Jake"]They are fixing this error as we speak.
I made them aware of it when I first heard the reports come out so they know its happening and are working on it.[/quote455a4aed32]
Thank you so much Jake!! My heart stopped for like 10 sec when i saw all my referrals gone.
jeff7602
01-03-2006 10:02:38
[quote5e7a09b552="Jake"]They are fixing this error as we speak.
I made them aware of it when I first heard the reports come out so they know its happening and are working on it.[/quote5e7a09b552]
I really like to hear the word error...that's a relief, a minor one until fixed, but a relief none the less!
[quote2f810e3e49="chazmann"]I dont see why this new rule applies to people who were already in approval status.....
Please elaborate.[/quote2f810e3e49]
I said I am waiting for a full explanation so I can convey it to you.
So I will elaborate when I can....
chazmann
01-03-2006 10:04:42
Okay...I appreciate it dude ?
Supacold
01-03-2006 10:13:27
got my referrals and offer back. Thanks jake
jeff7602
01-03-2006 10:14:05
Well, I got my greens back...now I just wonder about the other questions I had. #1 is that I have been working on the 360 site for more than 90 days already...do I have 90 days starting March 1st or am I screwed?
nytrate
01-03-2006 10:17:10
I wonder if those of us in the middle of approval will have to start all over (I submitted a week ago, now it saysi need to wait until 5/1/06 to submit for approval)
chazmann
01-03-2006 10:18:36
[quote0f224468e5="nytrate"]I wonder if those of us in the middle of approval will have to start all over (I submitted a week ago, now it saysi need to wait until 5/1/06 to submit for approval)[/quote0f224468e5]
Im in the same boat as you dude
darkscout
01-03-2006 10:21:17
[quoted1e024d13c="chazmann"][quoted1e024d13c="nytrate"]I wonder if those of us in the middle of approval will have to start all over (I submitted a week ago, now it saysi need to wait until 5/1/06 to submit for approval)[/quoted1e024d13c]
Im in the same boat as you dude[/quoted1e024d13c]
My girlfriend just restarted her approval. Everyone that was in approval seems to me to have gotten kicked back to "Here, fill out this piece of paper"
nytrate
01-03-2006 10:22:17
it won't let me restart approval
it says I have to wait 5/1/06 to do so
shortys408
01-03-2006 10:24:24
is freepay in any kind of financial trouble?
fashionjunkee
01-03-2006 10:24:28
No more Freepay for me.
[quoteeaf5ba92e5="shortys408"]is freepay in any kind of financial trouble?[/quoteeaf5ba92e5]
No but the reasons for this change will be explained soon.
chazmann
01-03-2006 10:25:11
[quote630f4e67c2="nytrate"]it won't let me restart approval
it says I have to wait 5/1/06 to do so[/quote630f4e67c2]
Bullshit, isnt it?
Why do WE have to start approval process over in this new fashion when we were already in the PROCESS OF BEING APPROVED.
[quotebbbd06c276="chazmann"][quotebbbd06c276="nytrate"]it won't let me restart approval
it says I have to wait 5/1/06 to do so[/quotebbbd06c276]
Bullshit, isnt it?
Why do WE have to start approval process over in this new fashion when we were already in the PROCESS OF BEING APPROVED.[/quotebbbd06c276]
I am also inquiring about this on your behalf.
petrie
01-03-2006 10:25:51
I'm curious to see how this will affect people that are in the middle of the process. I started my ipods site like 2 years ago, but didn't get three greens until this january. Does that mean i'm screwed? I still need to get 2, better hurry.
This should apply to new accounts, it seems. Or at least start the 90 day timer now for all accounts, regardless of how old they are.
Fugger
01-03-2006 10:26:34
Me too liwhewli
LaFlame
01-03-2006 10:27:04
this is terrible
darkscout
01-03-2006 10:29:21
chazmann
01-03-2006 10:31:27
[quote43d5af2beb="LaFlame"]this is terrible[/quote43d5af2beb]
Big time. freepay just lost another source for their cash.
petrie
01-03-2006 10:32:06
So what happens if I complete an offer to sign up for a site, but then don't touch it? Does it go inactive and get deleted after 3 months, or can I just never in my life complete that site from here on out?
If I don't finish premiumipods.freepay in the next 90 days, does that mean I can never do it again, or does it mean i'm deleted out and can re-sign up in 90 days and start over? D
LaFlame
01-03-2006 10:32:09
MiamiTJ
01-03-2006 10:37:47
these are the questions I had - post I did was locked -- but I think Jake it sums up everyones concerns ...
[quotee1cadc1f86]How will this affect those of us that registered for sites months ago and now wish to start them? Do the 90 days start as of 3/1 or when we registered? (very bad for me as I have sites that I am now starting that i signed up for many months ago for trades) Better yet -- are the sites that we signed up for before 3/1 not included in this change since they were done before the TOS change?
Last but not least -- what happens to those of us who were approved months ago for a 360 - that are now pending approval again and have been waiting for over 90 days? [/quotee1cadc1f86]
I think we should be grandfathered in ...
fashionjunkee
01-03-2006 10:38:41
MOD EDIT
Keep the posts relevant. K? Thx.
Talk about censorship lol. I didnt say anything wrong either. lol
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 10:49:39
90 days is not enough. What they should do is after 90 days, they should have the user send in verification again, and they have 30 days to send that in, or their account will be deleted. That makes more sense
But, to get 8 referrals in 90 days, aahhh, that is too short of time
[quote8e3de79c6e="MiamiTJ"]
[quote8e3de79c6e]How will this affect those of us that registered for sites months ago and now wish to start them? Do the 90 days start as of 3/1 or when we registered? (very bad for me as I have sites that I am now starting that i signed up for many months ago for trades) Better yet -- are the sites that we signed up for before 3/1 not included in this change since they were done before the TOS change?
[/quote8e3de79c6e][/quote8e3de79c6e]
90 days from today.
[quote8e3de79c6e="MiamiTJ"]
Last but not least -- what happens to those of us who were approved months ago for a 360 - that are now pending approval again and have been waiting for over 90 days? [/quote8e3de79c6e]
This will not be a concern for those who are already waiting for a product. When we get the 360 situation sorted out (the orders and this whole status change), I will let you know how you are affected if you are in the group that had their status changed.
smsmasters
01-03-2006 10:51:48
I'm STV, does the TOS change still apply to me?
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 10:52:02
so Jake, what if the people who signed up for products prior to today, but affected finished the offer requirements. Does that mean they got 90 days starting today?
drunkmonkey
01-03-2006 10:53:13
Hey Jake, could this problem be caused by chaos following a huge supply of 360s which just showed up on the warehouse floor unexpectedly? dance2
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 10:53:30
[quote8a91bbb6fe="smsmasters"]I'm STV, does the TOS change still apply to me?[/quote8a91bbb6fe]
NO
MiamiTJ
01-03-2006 10:55:20
TY Jake -- 90 days from today is not that bad -- acceptable -- Would we be able to start over from scratch after 90 days ?
Anyone want to signup under me FAST ??? lol P
MiamiTJ
01-03-2006 10:56:11
[quoteaef4ff8953="drunkmonkey"]Hey Jake, could this problem be caused by chaos following a huge supply of 360s which just showed up on the warehouse floor unexpectedly? dance2[/quoteaef4ff8953]
LMFAO -- pass the joint would you ???
tramahound
01-03-2006 10:58:12
PROBLEM;
my user id is 8 digits, the form only has room for 7.
what's up with that?
is there a way to fax in the form?
drunkmonkey
01-03-2006 10:58:19
[quotec1cff60e39="MiamiTJ"][quotec1cff60e39="drunkmonkey"]Hey Jake, could this problem be caused by chaos following a huge supply of 360s which just showed up on the warehouse floor unexpectedly? dance2[/quotec1cff60e39]
LMFAO -- pass the joint would you ???[/quotec1cff60e39]
Just a sec...I'm almost done with it. lol
petrie
01-03-2006 11:00:34
Oh well. Guess I won't be doing any freepay sites after the next 90 days go by, except for handbags, shuffles, and macminis, since i've never signed up for those.
Unless of course I can finish some of them up within the next 90 days... But getting 8 refs (through trading) to green over the next 90 days, especially with manual credits taking AT LEAST 15 days, would be really difficult. Looks like your best bet in completing a site is to start all 8 ref trades going the first week you sign up in case you get screwed by manual credit issues or scammers on the board. I guess freepay's about to have a big dropoff in the number of people completing sites after the next 90 days are up.
MiamiTJ
01-03-2006 11:00:59
[quotedd68eeb335="drunkmonkey"][quotedd68eeb335="MiamiTJ"][quotedd68eeb335="drunkmonkey"]Hey Jake, could this problem be caused by chaos following a huge supply of 360s which just showed up on the warehouse floor unexpectedly? dance2[/quotedd68eeb335]
LMFAO -- pass the joint would you ???[/quotedd68eeb335]
Just a sec...I'm almost done with it. lol[/quotedd68eeb335]
I think considering your comment -- your well done and need to pass it already...
JOSHBOX
01-03-2006 11:02:46
what a load of bs... the last good freesite looks like its falling -(
[quote608f567505="mpbollywoodking"]so Jake, what if the people who signed up for products prior to today, but affected finished the offer requirements. Does that mean they got 90 days starting today?[/quote608f567505]
Yes
JOSHBOX
01-03-2006 11:06:04
does this mean after 90 days we can do a site over again? lol
hues24
01-03-2006 11:09:35
Well, I was once "Processing" and since a recent 'glitch' (as many others have also experienced) I am now "Pending Approval." Does this mean that since I'm Pending Approval...I have send in a form now?
tomraffe
01-03-2006 11:10:03
The "90 day counter" has not appeared on my status page. Or is it only for people that registered after 90 days. Any ideas?
doylnea
01-03-2006 11:11:07
I would guess the reason that they're doing this is because it helps to prevent Fraud (ie, if you're someone's referral, move houses and be another referral for the same site). In addition, having open/unfinished accounts out there likely counts as a charge against their balance sheet, and they'd prefer to have as little outstanding "debt" as possible. Finally, expiring these accounts, assures Freepay of never having to pay out on them (for example if I went and paid $25 for each of my last premiumipod referrals, since I've already done my offer).
FWIW, I think this policy needs a lot more explanation, and our CS note should have had significantly more explanation. Further I believe (and this is self-preserving) that anyone who has signed up for a site to do should be grandfathered in. I can't, however, imagine a scenario where Freepay decides (for example) that because I signed up for FreeHandbags 6 months ago, completed my offer and have 1 referral, that my time to complete the site has already expired.
I foresee Freepay saying that anyone who has an open/unfinished account from 03/01/06 forward has 90 days to get all of their referrals.
drunkmonkey
01-03-2006 11:11:31
[quoteb4518aee60][bb4518aee60]li With a start date of March 1, 2006 – users of FreePay websites have 90 days to complete all offer requirements.[/bb4518aee60][/quoteb4518aee60]
Maybe I'm reading this wrong...or maybe I'm the first one reading this right. Does this mean all Freepay sites (no matter when started) must be completed by May 29 (90 days from March 1), at which point...???
jeff7602
01-03-2006 11:12:55
[quote17a6eb2cbd="doylnea"]
I foresee Freepay saying that anyone who has an open/unfinished account from 03/01/06 forward has 90 days to get all of their referrals.[/quote17a6eb2cbd]
Jake already said that.
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 11:13:09
my question made absolute no sense. Let me rephrase
What if the people who signed up for products prior to today, but HAVE NOT finished the requirements. Does that mean they got 90 days starting today?
LaFlame
01-03-2006 11:14:40
guess so...
[quote10c449f45d="doylnea"]In addition, having open/unfinished accounts out there likely counts as a charge against their balance sheet, and they'd prefer to have as little outstanding "debt" as possible.
[/quote10c449f45d]
BANG.
You are a smart man. ;)
[quote10c449f45d="doylnea"]
FWIW, I think this policy needs a lot more explanation, and our CS note should have had significantly more explanation. Further I believe (and this is self-preserving) that anyone who has signed up for a site to do should be grandfathered in.
[/quote10c449f45d]
I will explain as best as I can soon.
[quote10c449f45d="doylnea"]
I foresee Freepay saying that anyone who has an open/unfinished account from 03/01/06 forward has 90 days to get all of their referrals.[/quote10c449f45d]
That is correct.
anony13
01-03-2006 11:30:56
[quote46feab3509="doylnea"]I would guess the reason that they're doing this is because it helps to prevent Fraud [/quote46feab3509]
Prevent? Promote.
Scenario 1)
Unlimited time to complete refs. Flyer, AIM link, it takes you a year. But you have a shiny free product.
Scenario 2)
You sign up. Within the first week you buy/trade 4 refs here for your product. (83 days left). You send in your thinggy. One goes black. 4 weeks + mailing time, 50 days left. WTF, you don't know what to do. So you go sign up at your "buddy's"
killerman
01-03-2006 11:31:16
it sucks cause i have been waiting a month on my last green
if he just went green a month ago i coulda probbly have my giftcard already, now to wait another month on approval, yay freepay.
arg
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tramahound
01-03-2006 11:32:30
[quotece938d27df="tramahound"]PROBLEM;
my user id is 8 digits, the form only has room for 7.
what's up with that?
is there a way to fax in the form?[/quotece938d27df]
does anybody else have this issue with their ID? It even specifies to input your 7 digit code...
nobody2000
01-03-2006 11:37:52
was gonna post the same exact question
I know this means one or two of two things
1.) I bet we can charge (or will be charged) greater Paypal for doing freepay sites
2.) This could be the beginning of the end for all of us and our freebies.
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 11:38:36
i was going to sign up for the MacMini, but now i'm like, ummmmmmmmmmmmmmm NAH
drunkmonkey
01-03-2006 11:41:56
How many people just got screwed royally on laptops? 20 in 90 days...HA!!
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 11:42:25
WHY DO I FEEL LIKE THIS NEW POLICY IS ALL MY FAULT....................
[quote094eb9e395="drunkmonkey"]How many people just got screwed royally on laptops? 20 in 90 days...HA!![/quote094eb9e395]
I actually thought about that and sent a suggestion to the people who make decisions around here.
coolbreeze06
01-03-2006 11:45:06
how does this affect people who have completed a site for a product that has [b083b07b35a]NO release date[/b083b07b35a] and [b083b07b35a]NO price set[/b083b07b35a]!!!???
[b083b07b35a]PS3!!!!!![/size083b07b35a][/b083b07b35a]
[quotea14f6901ad="coolbreeze06"]how does this affect people who have completed a site for a product that has [ba14f6901ad]NO release date[/ba14f6901ad] and [ba14f6901ad]NO price set[/ba14f6901ad]!!!???
PS3!!!!!![/quotea14f6901ad]
If you have already completed it, you have nothing to worry about.
nickman
01-03-2006 11:46:50
[quote49bf8c3682="Jake"][quote49bf8c3682="drunkmonkey"]How many people just got screwed royally on laptops? 20 in 90 days...HA!![/quote49bf8c3682]
I actually thought about that and sent a suggestion to the people who make decisions around here.[/quote49bf8c3682]
I submitted for approval on laptops on Sunday night, and I logged into my status page today and was able to download the voucher. I'm sending it today or tomorrow, overnight. I'm getting this done as fast as possible P
coolbreeze06
01-03-2006 11:46:55
[quote899828dd2b="Jake"][quote899828dd2b="coolbreeze06"]how does this affect people who have completed a site for a product that has [b899828dd2b]NO release date[/b899828dd2b] and [b899828dd2b]NO price set[/b899828dd2b]!!!???
PS3!!!!!![/quote899828dd2b]
If you have already completed it, you have nothing to worry about.[/quote899828dd2b]
you just made my YEAR!!!
anony13
01-03-2006 11:48:26
[quote97d6f9decb="tramahound"][quote97d6f9decb="tramahound"]PROBLEM;
my user id is 8 digits, the form only has room for 7.
what's up with that?
is there a way to fax in the form?[/quote97d6f9decb]
does anybody else have this issue with their ID? It even specifies to input your 7 digit code...[/quote97d6f9decb]
Obviously getting every thing ready for this massive site change was of the top priority roll
You'd think that you'd atleast check that.
I think that everyone is getting too efficient, paying refs, trading refs. The second derivative of the freepay cash has just crossed 0.
I can't see how anyone could possibly get an iPod now with out being absolutely timely.
You can't send in a thing until 30 days after creating an account.
[quote97d6f9decb]60 days left. [/quote97d6f9decb]
3-4 days to be shipped and 'into' the system
[quote97d6f9decb]57 days left[/quote97d6f9decb]
4 weeks for approval
[quote97d6f9decb]29 days left[/quote97d6f9decb]
1 ref goes black (and is long gone on this forum with the trade money)
7 days to find a new ref
[quote97d6f9decb]22 days left[/quote97d6f9decb]
3 days to send in for approval... again
[quote97d6f9decb]19 days left[/quote97d6f9decb]
Lets hope that it gets processed in those 19 days since it's only 2.7 weeks
You'd think that they would have added some sort of automation to the process. YFD has a barcode. I mean seriously. How hard would it be to remove that "please fill in your 8 digit account number into these 7 spaces" with a bar code? My mom (who got an ipod through refs at work) would have never gotten hers under the new conditions.
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 11:49:53
SEE, THIS POLICY WOULD BE GREAT, IF, AND ONLY IF, PEOPLE GET INSTANT CREDIT
like what i suggested in my idea.....[/size821285073a][/color821285073a]
doylnea
01-03-2006 11:55:03
Further, reading into this a bit more, Freepay is now almost certainly going to be requiring a W9 if the total value of items you earn over the course a year exceeds $600, now that they have an easy record of your items...
this is the push other companies needed that compete against you to gain more people to their site. Think about it. Take trainn for example... same amount of refs for a prize. Only difference is freepay requires you to do it withing 90 and trainn you can come back in a year and finish it off.
Personally I would suggest maybe 1 ref goes green within 90 days the counter resets.
This way it still eliminates the inactive accounts and gives people a chance to complete the high ref based sites you have there.
tramahound
01-03-2006 11:56:57
[quoteb47c425574="mpbollywoodking"]SEE, THIS POLICY WOULD BE GREAT, IF, AND ONLY IF, PEOPLE GET INSTANT CREDIT
like what i suggested in my idea.....[/sizeb47c425574][/colorb47c425574][/quoteb47c425574]
EXACTLY!
that would make things much more manageable.
so...should I just make an 8th box on my form and send it in or will I find out 4 weeks later that I shouldn't have done that and have to send it again?
Ishogo
01-03-2006 11:57:33
That's awful what FreePay is doing.
[quote9944a93d6e="FreePay"]You have the minimum number of referred friends needed to get your FREE PS3. The next step is to click the Download Approval Form button below to download the approval form file to your desktop. Print this file out, fill it in and mail it according to the instructions on the form. Note, you must click the button and download a new form - photocopies will not be accepted.
Your form must be mailed (according to the postmark) by XX/XX/XXXX. We recommend that you use recorded mail.
When we process your approval form we will check your account and confirm that all of your referrals are unique, valid and legitimate. We also check your referrals' referrals, to ensure that there has been no fraud or abuse. We cannot award you credit for referrals that have broken our Terms and Conditions. Unfortunately, customers often find that 1 or 2 of their referrals do not get awarded, so you may want to refer extra friends to improve your chances of approval.
Check this page regularly to see the result of your approval request. It may take 4 or more weeks to process your approval form.[/quote9944a93d6e]
coolbreeze06
01-03-2006 11:58:49
Wha???? Going to check this out right now?!?!?!??
coolbreeze06
01-03-2006 12:01:12
[quotee0defe05ca="Ishogo"]FreePay has even more horrible news
[quotee0defe05ca="FreePay"]You have the minimum number of referred friends needed to get your FREE PS3. The next step is to click the Download Approval Form button below to download the approval form file to your desktop. Print this file out, fill it in and mail it according to the instructions on the form. Note, you must click the button and download a new form - photocopies will not be accepted.
Your form must be mailed (according to the postmark) by XX/XX/XXXX. We recommend that you use recorded mail.
When we process your approval form we will check your account and confirm that all of your referrals are unique, valid and legitimate. We also check your referrals' referrals, to ensure that there has been no fraud or abuse. We cannot award you credit for referrals that have broken our Terms and Conditions. Unfortunately, customers often find that 1 or 2 of their referrals do not get awarded, so you may want to refer extra friends to improve your chances of approval.
Check this page regularly to see the result of your approval request. It may take 4 or more weeks to process your approval form.[/quotee0defe05ca][/quotee0defe05ca]
What are you talking about...my status is pending approval...I dont see anything about a form.
Ishogo
01-03-2006 12:02:15
It's probably because you're pending approval already.
LeDog
01-03-2006 12:03:18
yep, I'm getting that form too... anyway, what is recorded mail??
nickman
01-03-2006 12:05:34
I'm going to go overnight my laptops Approval form in about an hour.
Jake What will be the new policy for W9 forms now?
nobody2000
01-03-2006 12:06:09
didn't they already do that thing with referals' referals?
Recorded mail i think is request a delivery confirmation i.e. pay a little more $$ for your "freebie"
tramahound
01-03-2006 12:07:21
you have to send the form via usps then right? fedex doesn't do P.O. boxes.
JBB2005
01-03-2006 12:08:19
What about this message
Although you have the minimum number of referred friends needed to get your FREE iPod nano, our records indicate that you joined less than 30 days ago. According to our Terms and Conditions, you cannot request approval until your account is older then 30 days. Please check back after 5/13/2006 on this page to continue to the next stage.
Why until May 13th? And not 30 days after I signed up?
Also, I applied for approval yesterday ( Feb 28 ), what does this mean in terms of these "approval" forms? Will I have to send one in. I am thinking (and hoping) not because I signed up and completed everything before March 1st.
LeDog
01-03-2006 12:14:09
Oh and Jake, I have a question for you. On the form, it says "The sponsor offer I completed as a requirement to get my free product was completed on my own without the assistance of someone else. No one completed the offer "behalf of me"." I used my brother CC to complete the offer, is it still okay?(I remeber reading somewhere that it is okay to share account with other family member, I just want to make sure tough)
good2speed
01-03-2006 12:15:33
As far as forms. How about an online form?
Or if you need signatures
how about an email address that can accept scans of the form
more to come later but it looks like all good things muist come to an end.
I'lll thank freepay for Train since he's prolly to busy jumping up and down now.
[quote66cc23acd0="good2speed"]As far as forms. How about an online form?
Or if you need signatures
how about an email address that can accept scans of the form
[/quote66cc23acd0]
I will send those suggestions to my superiors.
[quote66cc23acd0="good2speed"]
I'lll thank freepay for Train since he's prolly to busy jumping up and down now.[/quote66cc23acd0]
Just wait until Alan gets big enough and he'll drop the same bomb on you.
[quotea6b82a390d="JBB2005"]What about this message
Although you have the minimum number of referred friends needed to get your FREE iPod nano, our records indicate that you joined less than 30 days ago. According to our Terms and Conditions, you cannot request approval until your account is older then 30 days. Please check back after 5/13/2006 on this page to continue to the next stage.
Why until May 13th? And not 30 days after I signed up?
Also, I applied for approval yesterday ( Feb 28 ), what does this mean in terms of these "approval" forms? Will I have to send one in. I am thinking (and hoping) not because I signed up and completed everything before March 1st.[/quotea6b82a390d]
PM me with your account information. That must be a bug.
Brok3n_Sword
01-03-2006 12:25:52
[quote3601112f34="Jake"]
Just wait until Alan gets big enough and he'll drop the same bomb on you.[/quote3601112f34]
Trainn has already proved they can handle themselves better in the 360 regard, by shipping out and offering Paypal. I'm sure if they made a change such as this, it would be..well..a bit more thought out? Exhibit A the form has room for a 7 digit user id, some people have 8. And it would make a lot more sense to apply this to [b3601112f34]inactive[/b3601112f34] accounts.
good2speed
01-03-2006 12:33:49
Im still missing the fraud angle here. Freepay doesn't care about fraud directly. They only care about fraud if the referred companies find out that individual users are signing up multiple times. I'm sure freepay encourages n( not openly) fraud so long as the user doesn't get caught by the referred companies. If I were to signup twice for the same site and get away with it. Freepay doesnt get effected in fact they benefit from getting paid twice from the referred company.
The only reason I can now think of why freepay dislikes fraud is that they have an excuse as to why they can't send us our gifts.
nickman
01-03-2006 12:35:36
Jake If I send in an approval form for an expensive gift (one over $600, specifically laptops) and get approved - am I going to have to send in another W9 form and wait longer before I get the gift?
Tholek
01-03-2006 12:36:29
[quote5c64230a43="Jake"][quote5c64230a43="drunkmonkey"]How many people just got screwed royally on laptops? 20 in 90 days...HA!![/quote5c64230a43]
I actually thought about that and sent a suggestion to the people who make decisions around here.[/quote5c64230a43]
I've got nine greens.....NINE......OMG OMG OMG......
I'll never get a laptop, will I? cry
[quotea2137b63a7="Brok3n_Sword"]
Trainn has already proved they can handle themselves better in the 360 regard, by shipping out and offering Paypal. [/quotea2137b63a7]
Irrelevant to the discussion.
[quotea2137b63a7="good2speed"]
The only reason I can now think of why freepay dislikes fraud is that they have an excuse as to why they can't send us our gifts.
[/quotea2137b63a7]
We dislike fraud because we only get paid for legitimate referrals and if we keep referring illegitimate users to our advertisers, they start getting angry and start withholding payments.
[quoteb8a438752f="nickman"]Jake If I send in an approval form for an expensive gift (one over $600, specifically laptops) and get approved - am I going to have to send in another W9 form and wait longer before I get the gift?[/quoteb8a438752f]
Yes you will have wait longer but that will not count against the 90 day limit.
The 90 day limit is for [ib8a438752f]completion of offer requirements only[/ib8a438752f]
4Nothin
01-03-2006 12:54:24
[quote9ddbceb4ae="Jake"]The 90 day limit is for [i9ddbceb4ae]completion of offer requirements only[/i9ddbceb4ae][/quote9ddbceb4ae]
So if I am reading this correctly, does that mean that the user just has to complete an offer within 90 days? So the 90 day limit does not mean that all referrals have to be done within 90 days?
good2speed
01-03-2006 12:57:38
[quote3931d4a8c0="Jake"]
[quote3931d4a8c0="good2speed"]
The only reason I can now think of why freepay dislikes fraud is that they have an excuse as to why they can't send us our gifts.
[/quote3931d4a8c0]
We dislike fraud because we only get paid for legitimate referrals and if we keep referring illegitimate users to our advertisers, they start getting angry and start withholding payments.[/quote3931d4a8c0]
ya Im aware of that. Why I said you only care indirectly.
Take for example. All of us scam freepay. Ref companies never find out. Win win situation for us and freepay.
on the other hand - all of us skeem but get caught. Freepay lose and we lose.
I'm also asssuming that when we go for approval you validate all of our referrals and see if they are legit. Wouldn;t that process put us in the clear. Haven't the ref companies already conceded at this point that it is a unique user and they are willing to pay for the referral. Why is freepay double or trip[le checking when the companies have already signed off
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 12:59:14
[quote1e70d36c84="4Nothin"][quote1e70d36c84="Jake"]The 90 day limit is for [i1e70d36c84]completion of offer requirements only[/i1e70d36c84][/quote1e70d36c84]
So if I am reading this correctly, does that mean that the user just has to complete an offer within 90 days? So the 90 day limit does not mean that all referrals have to be done within 90 days?[/quote1e70d36c84]
If that is the case, then this isnt a big deal at all.
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 13:01:37
Jake
Is the credit system still the same or it will be now INSTANT greens, it only makes sense for that now in accordance to this new policy
Shaggy135
01-03-2006 13:02:09
What about the people who were already in the approval stage? That was what I liked about Freepay in the first place. The fast approval times. I submitted my last account for approval yesterday and was hoping that it would have been approved by now. My jaw dropped when I logged in and saw that I had to send in a form. Nice change, before - 7 to 10 days, now - 4 weeks or more. That really sucks.
But once again whats going on with the people who already submitted for approval before today? Do we still have to send in the form or what?
KeithA
01-03-2006 13:07:24
Is the announcement posted publicly online, or is it only accessible via users' Freepay accounts?
[quoteededf0a40e="4Nothin"][quoteededf0a40e="Jake"]The 90 day limit is for [iededf0a40e]completion of offer requirements only[/iededf0a40e][/quoteededf0a40e]
So if I am reading this correctly, does that mean that the user just has to complete an offer within 90 days? So the 90 day limit does not mean that all referrals have to be done within 90 days?[/quoteededf0a40e]
No. Referrals have to be done within 90 days as well. I should have been clearer.
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 13:09:00
[quote717c242a40="Jake"][quote717c242a40="4Nothin"][quote717c242a40="Jake"]The 90 day limit is for [i717c242a40]completion of offer requirements only[/i717c242a40][/quote717c242a40]
So if I am reading this correctly, does that mean that the user just has to complete an offer within 90 days? So the 90 day limit does not mean that all referrals have to be done within 90 days?[/quote717c242a40]
No. Referrals have to be done within 90 days as well. I should have been clearer.[/quote717c242a40]
What about if we submit for approval and get denied, do we get an extension?
[quote454ceeafa1="Drummer16161616"][quote454ceeafa1="Jake"][quote454ceeafa1="4Nothin"][quote454ceeafa1="Jake"]The 90 day limit is for [i454ceeafa1]completion of offer requirements only[/i454ceeafa1][/quote454ceeafa1]
So if I am reading this correctly, does that mean that the user just has to complete an offer within 90 days? So the 90 day limit does not mean that all referrals have to be done within 90 days?[/quote454ceeafa1]
No. Referrals have to be done within 90 days as well. I should have been clearer.[/quote454ceeafa1]
What about if we submit for approval and get denied, do we get an extension?[/quote454ceeafa1]
I will ask.
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 13:13:57
can you ask about the Instant credit as well
petrie
01-03-2006 13:21:24
[quotee2b48c33b6="FreePay"]When we process your approval form we will check your account and confirm that all of your referrals are unique, valid and legitimate. We also check your referrals' referrals, to ensure that there has been no fraud or abuse. We cannot award you credit for referrals that have broken our Terms and Conditions. Unfortunately, customers often find that 1 or 2 of their referrals do not get awarded, so you may want to refer extra friends to improve your chances of approval.[/quotee2b48c33b6]
Ok, so what happens if one of your referrals does not get awarded? Do you get extra time to find someone else and resubmit? If not, that's BS, especially if the approval process can take UP TO 4 WEEKS. That's 1/3 of the time in which you have to complete the entire set of requirements. Between that 4 week waiting period and the 15 business day wait to request manuals, that 7 weeks or 49 days eaten up already by bureaucracy. And that's not even a worst-case scenario. They're practically forcing you to get an extra referral for insurance. BS.
[quote4b2c0872b9="petrie"]
Ok, so what happens if one of your referrals does not get awarded? Do you get extra time to find someone else and resubmit? If not, that's BS, especially if the approval process can take UP TO 4 WEEKS. [/quote4b2c0872b9]
The approval time will come down as a result of these policies....
4Nothin
01-03-2006 13:30:48
Jake, I know this is completely off topic, but by chance during your talks with your superiors, can you ask them if there is any updates on the 360 shipments? I'm sure getting some good news about the 360's would put a lot of people at ease. Thanks!
doylnea
01-03-2006 13:31:17
[quote52b35e71d1="mpbollywoodking"]Jake
Is the credit system still the same or it will be now INSTANT greens, it only makes sense for that now in accordance to this new policy[/quote52b35e71d1]
Stop posting this message. I've read it at least 5 times already.
killerman
01-03-2006 13:34:28
how about online approval, but send in a voucher to claim the gift when everything is done?
that would make life easier haha
kevxross
01-03-2006 13:34:50
Everyone stop posting here and stick to the official announcement thread to keep everything more organized and to prevent the same questions from being asked over and over. Please. Thanks.
floridaboyzx9r
01-03-2006 14:14:03
ok, i'm new here. i didn't even know about this place until after i had finished my ipod offer. jake, can you tell me one thing so i'm perfectly clear on it?
if i have been approved, and submitted my order and am now in processing (i didn't get the "back to pending approval" glitch) do i have to do this form? or will mine go STV once they come in and be shipped? thanks for you time cause i know you must be gettin slammed with pm's right now.
Drummer16161616
01-03-2006 14:19:48
[quotebd1c87cfe8="floridaboyzx9r"]ok, i'm new here. i didn't even know about this place until after i had finished my iPod offer. jake, can you tell me one thing so i'm perfectly clear on it?
if i have been approved, and submitted my order and am now in processing (i didn't get the "back to pending approval" glitch) do i have to do this form? or will mine go STV once they come in and be shipped? thanks for you time cause i know you must be gettin slammed with pm's right now.[/quotebd1c87cfe8]
You should be fine... Only people that were in approval or haven't completed the requirements will be affected. If you have ordered already, you are fine.
floridaboyzx9r
01-03-2006 14:23:57
thanks drummer for the quik response, was gettin kinda nervous. this is the first time i've done one of these so don't really know what to expect. went to processing on 2/16 and from everything i see on here it is gonna be a while till i see it. but really didn't wanna have to go back to the beginning of the order process.
chazmann
01-03-2006 16:11:25
I applied for approval yesterday...and was in the process as was countless others here.
Its horrible that we have to go through this process now. Cant you just approve us like you have been for YEARS.
After all, we did participate on your sites because it was easy to deal with and it was actually a pleasant expierience.
Something that I cant say stands for your company now ?
amir89630
01-03-2006 16:24:26
I kinda think this is their way to stop Trading. Cuz basically what happens is. Lets say i do someones ipodshuffles freepay offer. and they do my laptops freepay. Now im gonna spend about 2 months workin on this laptop offer, and then will not have time to focus on the shuffle, so therefore the 90 days will expire from the offer that i did for the other guy, and now i will now longer be able to do shuffles.
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 17:08:12
no, it's called gaining more profit
cyberpunk243
01-03-2006 17:21:40
Time should be longer. 90 days is not enough. I think the fact that we have a time limit now sucks but I can understand why. The time should be extended though in order to help people out considering referrals can take a while, especially if you are signed up for a lot of sites. Crediting times better speed up if this 90 day rule stays in effect.
mpbollywoodking
01-03-2006 17:23:21
i can't finish all my sites in 90 days, that is crazy, i spend 90 days just to finish one item, i mean, just look at my sig
LaFlame
01-03-2006 17:40:38
[quotebd47f3d1da="mpbollywoodking"]i can't finish all my sites in 90 days, that is crazy, i spend 90 days just to finish one item, i mean, just look at my sig[/quotebd47f3d1da]
i feel u man. i took me more then 5 months to get 10 refs...
mekman
01-03-2006 18:10:52
a few things....
this has already been answered, but not by jake...so just to make sure...
i've been "processing" since 2/14 for my Freeipods...is there going to be anything more I have to do? or am I all set with that
second...what is the trainn site for xbox?
amir89630
01-03-2006 18:19:19
man, its gonna be some pandemonium when may 30 rolls around. Jakes gonna be gettin PMs out the yingyang. ( Goodbye freepay, hellow trainn.
theysayjump
01-03-2006 18:22:47
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=34179