Discuss freepay's 360 situation here

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=33969

Fugger

26-02-2006 17:03:07

Okay here is the deal.

If you have a complaint, issue, are looking for information, want to discuss, argue, flame or any other reason for posting about freepay and the 360's. Post it here. Posting outside of here will result in temp ban. Since every other thread gets locked down sometimes for good reasons and sometimes for not, this thread will not get locked.

I'm going to close the other threads that are open. Feel free to start over here.

Enjoy.

CollidgeGraduit

26-02-2006 17:03:49

DEER JAKE U O ME A XBAKS 360 RITE NOW O AN IT BETTAR HAVE THE REMOET IN IT 2

LOV,
COLL

egyptianruin

26-02-2006 17:09:01

I need my XBOX 360 now or I will break my keyboard like a angry German kid.

St00pid

26-02-2006 17:14:43

[quote270f37b6b2="CollidgeGraduit"]DEER JAKE U O ME A XBAKS 360 RITE NOW O AN IT BETTAR HAVE THE REMOET IN IT 2

LOV,
COLL[/quote270f37b6b2]

LOLE LERN 2 TIPE U KANT EVIN SPEL GUD!

CollidgeGraduit

26-02-2006 17:29:24

[quotee1930984e6="St00pid"][quotee1930984e6="CollidgeGraduit"]DEER JAKE U O ME A XBAKS 360 RITE NOW O AN IT BETTAR HAVE THE REMOET IN IT 2

LOV,
COLL[/quotee1930984e6]

LOLE LERN 2 TIPE U KANT EVIN SPEL GUD![/quotee1930984e6]

LOL I NO RITE

aguy

26-02-2006 18:26:42

what makes me laugh is that this is prolly the last thread anyone will prolly discuss the 360 situation in.

Menotti

26-02-2006 18:44:30

I just wish the customer service was a bit more personalized. Not just from the Xbox360 issue, but in general. I've been Processing (and now Pending Approval - glitch) since 1/27 on a white iPod video, and when I sent something in a couple of days ago, I got one of the textbook scripted answers.

On their sites, when they are having inventory issues, they should have a meter, like

What we have ----------------- goal #

just to let us know the rate at which they are getting their hands on the items for the bulk shipment

I dunno, the site could just be a little more personal.

egyptianruin

26-02-2006 19:57:06

Still say May for the 360's. Maybe I will hold my breath until they come - no wait I would die... I just say everone sit tight it's not that big of a deal...then again I am not some 15 year old kid with no loot waiting impatiently for my 360 to come from a company I prolly used my ma's CC for...

Fugger

26-02-2006 20:12:19

[quoteab6250a86b="aguy"]what makes me laugh is that this is prolly the last thread anyone will prolly discuss the 360 situation in.[/quoteab6250a86b]

That's fine. But at least there is a central pinned location for people to post and discuss. If people choose not to use it, that is on them.

Menotti

26-02-2006 22:31:18

[quote9962d8741f="egyptianruin"]Still say May for the 360's. Maybe I will hold my breath until they come - no wait I would die... I just say everone sit tight it's not that big of a deal...then again I am not some 15 year old kid with no loot waiting impatiently for my 360 to come from a company I prolly used my ma's CC for...[/quote9962d8741f]

or a poor college student with no loot P

Tholek

26-02-2006 22:58:41

I feel lucky I'm not a hardcore gamer, otherwise I'd probably be pulling my hair out too.

Good luck bro'

johnjimjones

27-02-2006 03:38:21

OMGZ WHEERE DA F IS MA XBOXZZ 360 IZ SUPOZE TO BE IN HERRR 10 MONTH AGOZ WTF

ilanbg

27-02-2006 03:40:00

I'm just annoyed I missed out on major resale time. I'm still planning on selling the thing.

egyptianruin

27-02-2006 06:48:57

Thats what I initially wanted to do as well, but now it's a present. If I had sold it back when demand was high I could have made a little profit on it, but I am happy I didn't because we kept our preordered one and now we're getting the free want for his best friend so they can play together online...men lol

VGM

27-02-2006 14:49:40

Claiming they cannot buy them in bulk is now officially BS as well. I truly believe they are simply not trying to get 360's until they just fall into their laps. A friend of mine owns a major gaming chain (lan party type place) and just received a shipment of almost 1,000 xbox 360's. He said he had two sources to purchase these from, both which stated they would ship within 2 weeks from order date. If freepay really wants to get 360's, then they should expand their sources to something beyon efulfillment or whatever they use.

JPeeper

27-02-2006 16:28:44

I agree if bestbuy and futureshop can get them then why can't Freepay? Like they will have majority over them but Freepay should still be able to get tons.

Iloveipods2

27-02-2006 17:11:15

I WANT CREDIT FOR FLYCELL AND MY XBOX360!!!!!! and i hope it has a remote! oh and I love jake

WillTradeRefs

28-02-2006 06:50:44

I don't think they have remotes.. b/c I remember seeing that on Freepay too.. and then when I went and bought my Premium system..no remote..and I was like.. WTF? Freepay said it came with a remote..so I think they just messed up on that one.

Jake

28-02-2006 07:00:21

[quotea69dbf3f48="WillTradeRefs"]I don't think they have remotes.. b/c I remember seeing that on Freepay too.. and then when I went and bought my Premium system..no remote..and I was like.. WTF? Freepay said it came with a remote..so I think they just messed up on that one.[/quotea69dbf3f48]

It was Microsoft that made the change in the package.

drunkmonkey

28-02-2006 07:30:46

[quote0e5e92e9db="VGM"]Claiming they cannot buy them in bulk is now officially BS as well. I truly believe they are simply not trying to get 360's until they just fall into their laps. A friend of mine owns a major gaming chain (lan party type place) and just received a shipment of almost 1,000 xbox 360's. He said he had two sources to purchase these from, both which stated they would ship within 2 weeks from order date. If freepay really wants to get 360's, then they should expand their sources to something beyon efulfillment or whatever they use.[/quote0e5e92e9db]

Jake, any comment on this statement?

Jake

28-02-2006 07:40:28

[quote5d9d54e64b="drunkmonkey"][quote5d9d54e64b="VGM"]Claiming they cannot buy them in bulk is now officially BS as well. I truly believe they are simply not trying to get 360's until they just fall into their laps. A friend of mine owns a major gaming chain (lan party type place) and just received a shipment of almost 1,000 xbox 360's. He said he had two sources to purchase these from, both which stated they would ship within 2 weeks from order date. If freepay really wants to get 360's, then they should expand their sources to something beyon efulfillment or whatever they use.[/quote5d9d54e64b]

Jake, any comment on this statement?[/quote5d9d54e64b]

If you can suggest good, reliable vendors, I'm all ears.

CollidgeGraduit

28-02-2006 07:42:26

[quote44191e0906="Jake"][quote44191e0906="drunkmonkey"][quote44191e0906="VGM"]Claiming they cannot buy them in bulk is now officially BS as well. I truly believe they are simply not trying to get 360's until they just fall into their laps. A friend of mine owns a major gaming chain (lan party type place) and just received a shipment of almost 1,000 xbox 360's. He said he had two sources to purchase these from, both which stated they would ship within 2 weeks from order date. If freepay really wants to get 360's, then they should expand their sources to something beyon efulfillment or whatever they use.[/quote44191e0906]

Jake, any comment on this statement?[/quote44191e0906]

If you can suggest good, reliable vendors, I'm all ears.[/quote44191e0906]

WTF Jake, you want specifics? Telling you that my one friend that works for this one chain can get almost 1,000 xbox's from this one vendor isn't enough?

drunkmonkey

28-02-2006 08:00:10

[quote7238e61da2="Jake"][quote7238e61da2="drunkmonkey"][quote7238e61da2="VGM"]Claiming they cannot buy them in bulk is now officially BS as well. I truly believe they are simply not trying to get 360's until they just fall into their laps. A friend of mine owns a major gaming chain (lan party type place) and just received a shipment of almost 1,000 xbox 360's. He said he had two sources to purchase these from, both which stated they would ship within 2 weeks from order date. If freepay really wants to get 360's, then they should expand their sources to something beyon efulfillment or whatever they use.[/quote7238e61da2]

Jake, any comment on this statement?[/quote7238e61da2]

If you can suggest good, reliable vendors, I'm all ears.[/quote7238e61da2]

I'd PM VGM. I'm not in the business.

drunkmonkey

28-02-2006 08:02:23

[quote0f6031cf92="CollidgeGraduit"]WTF Jake, you want specifics? Telling you that my one friend that works for this one chain can get almost 1,000 xbox's from this one vendor isn't enough?[/quote0f6031cf92]

Damn, he didn't give all the specifics...he must be lying. Next time, include addresses and phone numbers.

You know, for all the shit you give people for complaining, I've never seen you add anything to this discussion besides juvenile satire. roll

CollidgeGraduit

28-02-2006 08:09:24

[quote000dd9705c="drunkmonkey"][quote000dd9705c="CollidgeGraduit"]WTF Jake, you want specifics? Telling you that my one friend that works for this one chain can get almost 1,000 xbox's from this one vendor isn't enough?[/quote000dd9705c]

Damn, he didn't give all the specifics...he must be lying. Next time, include addresses and phone numbers.

You know, for all the shit you give people for complaining, I've never seen you add anything to this discussion besides juvenile satire. roll[/quote000dd9705c]

I've posted enough intelligent responses in other threads about this same topic. I guess when you read thread after thread of people bitching about not getting their things immediately, how FreePay is unethical about not providing remotes (even though MS took them out of the package), I get a bit tired of it and post some sarcastic responses.

Common sense tells you that FreePay is doing what's in their power to get their hands on Xbox360's. People around here seem to think that Jake sits around with this thumb up his ass, giggling like a schoolgirl while people grow frustrated about not getting their 360's. They want to fulfill the orders as much as us customers want them fulfilled.

I do apologize for the asshole-ish posts, but I hope you understand where I'm coming from. I've been in the same boat, waiting 3 months for my first iPod, and I'm prepared to be in the boat waiting for the xbox 360. It's frustrating, believe me, I know.

I understand the frustration, I'm just asking that all the users have the same consideration for the moderators, and realize how frustrating it is to constantly weed through posts of complaints.

drunkmonkey

28-02-2006 08:22:04

I can see where your frustration comes from. However, common sense does not tell me Freepay is doing everything they can. I disagree that waiting on one bulk shipment is the way to go. Yes, a smaller shipment would hardly make a dent in their queue, but if they had been doing small shipments the whole time, how far would they be? More importantly, people would see that an effort was being made. If all units are bought at retail cost, where's the disadvantage?

I don't remember if I personally complained about the remote. If so, it was a knee-jerk reaction, and I apologize. That is beyond Freepay's control, and we should not expect it of them.

I guess the thing that gets me the most is that other companies are finding ways to make their customers happy. If every other site was still waiting on shipments and not offering alternatives, this would be a different story. And the "we have more customers" excuse can only hold water for so long.

CollidgeGraduit

28-02-2006 08:26:21

It sounds like Jake is willing to check in to other vendors, if someone can give him some leads. However, I bet it takes a lot of time to look into a vendor to make sure they are legit -- selling small groups of high-end electronics just sounds like an opening for a scam.

Seriously, if someone can give Jake a good lead on a reliable vendor for the xbox360s, I'm sure he'll follow up on it.

Jake

28-02-2006 08:57:15

[quote0c70832573="CollidgeGraduit"]It sounds like Jake is willing to check in to other vendors, if someone can give him some leads. However, I bet it takes a lot of time to look into a vendor to make sure they are legit -- selling small groups of high-end electronics just sounds like an opening for a scam.

Seriously, if someone can give Jake a good lead on a reliable vendor for the xbox360s, I'm sure he'll follow up on it.[/quote0c70832573]

I have gotten leads from some other people on other boards during this whole fiasco and none of them panned out. I am willing to look further if anyone has suggestions that I have not already checked out.

Fugger

28-02-2006 09:48:15

Jake; Back when I was in the video game business (aka, worked at a video game rental store) we used to do heavy business with Ingrammicro. Have you guys looked there yet? We also did business with Tech Data. At the time (when the PS2 launched) they were both able to hook us up.

drunkmonkey

28-02-2006 10:05:25

[quote87d984e1d9="Fugger"]Jake; Back when I was in the video game business (aka, worked at a video game rental store) we used to do heavy business with Ingrammicro. Have you guys looked there yet? We also did business with Tech Data. At the time (when the PS2 launched) they were both able to hook us up.[/quote87d984e1d9]

Damn...that brings back memories. I used to work for a computer supply company, and we did a lot of business with both of those vendors. I wasn't aware they did video games as well. They're both solid, if you haven't looked into them yet.

CollidgeGraduit

28-02-2006 10:30:09

This is the kind of discussion that makes me swell with joy.

Menotti

28-02-2006 10:58:47

I just hope that Freepay is going to smack around their current supplier if they are giving them these kinds of issues.

4Nothin

28-02-2006 11:27:34

[quote7a6470839d="Fugger"]Jake; Back when I was in the video game business (aka, worked at a video game rental store) we used to do heavy business with Ingrammicro. Have you guys looked there yet? We also did business with Tech Data. At the time (when the PS2 launched) they were both able to hook us up.[/quote7a6470839d]

D&H Distributing is another company that I did business with in the past that also does Video Game distributing. Their service was excellent, so you may want to check them out. www.dandh.com is their website address.

-Manhole

Fugger

28-02-2006 12:07:14

dandh, if i'm not mistaking, recently started their entertainment part of business about... 2 years ago. We used ingram and tech data because they had been doing distribution longer but danh is another possibility.

EDIT The more I think about it... I want to say that D&H has been doing it for maybe 2 - 4 years. I know ingram micro had been doing it for much longer.

Jake

28-02-2006 12:36:32

I have forwarded these suggestions to the appropriate people.

Thanks! )

Fugger

28-02-2006 12:46:45

[quote8365323c72="Jake"]I have forwarded these suggestions to the appropriate people.

Thanks! )[/quote8365323c72]

Sweet! So... What is the bounty for hooking you guys up with some good suppliers?

Jake

28-02-2006 12:52:32

[quote6b1e8fe3bc="Fugger"][quote6b1e8fe3bc="Jake"]I have forwarded these suggestions to the appropriate people.

Thanks! )[/quote6b1e8fe3bc]

Sweet! So... What is the bounty for hooking you guys up with some good suppliers?[/quote6b1e8fe3bc]

You get your 360s faster. P

CollidgeGraduit

28-02-2006 12:54:01

[quote611787bbda="Jake"][quote611787bbda="Fugger"][quote611787bbda="Jake"]I have forwarded these suggestions to the appropriate people.

Thanks! )[/quote611787bbda]

Sweet! So... What is the bounty for hooking you guys up with some good suppliers?[/quote611787bbda]

You get your 360s faster. P[/quote611787bbda]

I heard FreePay was giving away a date w/ Jake

johnjimjones

28-02-2006 12:59:46

[quote581f40cbf1="CollidgeGraduit"][quote581f40cbf1="Jake"][quote581f40cbf1="Fugger"][quote581f40cbf1="Jake"]I have forwarded these suggestions to the appropriate people.

Thanks! )[/quote581f40cbf1]

Sweet! So... What is the bounty for hooking you guys up with some good suppliers?[/quote581f40cbf1]

You get your 360s faster. P[/quote581f40cbf1]

I heard FreePay was giving away a date w/ Jake[/quote581f40cbf1]
Date with Jake for 8 referrals? What a deal!

Jake

28-02-2006 13:07:56

[quote171667255d="johnjimjones"]Date with Jake for 8 referrals? What a deal![/quote171667255d]

I am going to have to renegotiate my contract. P

Nimh

28-02-2006 18:26:29

Any possibility on getting updated with what happened with these suppliers?

CollidgeGraduit

28-02-2006 18:33:44

You should probably give Jake some time to look in to them.

He handles a lot at Freepay, and that kind of stuff does take a little time.

Fugger

28-02-2006 18:58:13

Coll you are an idiot. 53 minutes (assuming freepay closes their offices at 5pm est) is MORE than enough time for them to setup major purchasing accounts from 3 of the largest electronics distrubition warehouses in the US.

Cow-Tipper

28-02-2006 18:58:17

i got three words for you guys

"Jake is gangsta"

Jake

01-03-2006 06:25:14

[quote7b41d49d2d="Fugger"]Coll you are an idiot. 53 minutes (assuming freepay closes their offices at 5pm est) is MORE than enough time for them to setup major purchasing accounts from 3 of the largest electronics distrubition warehouses in the US.[/quote7b41d49d2d]

But when my colleagues and I have a hundred other things on our plates, this doesn't happen that fast.

CollidgeGraduit

01-03-2006 06:26:47

[quote836aa84874="Jake"][quote836aa84874="Fugger"]Coll you are an idiot. 53 minutes (assuming freepay closes their offices at 5pm est) is MORE than enough time for them to setup major purchasing accounts from 3 of the largest electronics distrubition warehouses in the US.[/quote836aa84874]

But when my colleagues and I have a hundred other things on our plates, this doesn't happen that fast.[/quote836aa84874]

Clear off your plate! Getting 360s to these people is the most important thing right now. Well, right after procuring some remotes.

Truxity.net

01-03-2006 06:34:41

OMG! I have been looking for suppliers for the longest because I'm actually looking into starting a small internet business of my own by making a internet store. Anyone knows the suppliers MOQ (Minumum Order Quanity) because it would be real helpful to me by the time the PS3 comes out.

I hope these suppliers pan out Jake. I have had NBA 2K6 for Xbox 360 since it came out and I will be totally stoked when I finally get my 360 and can finally play it.

Jake

01-03-2006 06:57:37

[quote81b8685acd="syk_skillz"]
I hope these suppliers pan out Jake. [/quote81b8685acd]

As do I. ;)

I'll let you know if I hear anything substantial.

mpbollywoodking

01-03-2006 07:42:50

mmmm was that a hint of something Jake

CollidgeGraduit

01-03-2006 07:44:55

[quotef3b513ffe2="mpbollywoodking"]mmmm was that a hint of something Jake[/quotef3b513ffe2]

No, he was saying he would let us know if anything happened with those suppliers.

jMuss

01-03-2006 12:30:44

Any word on how FreePays new policy is effecting those of us waiting on 360's?

CollidgeGraduit

01-03-2006 12:31:38

[quotec1bbffea92="jMuss"]Any word on how FreePays new policy is effecting those of us waiting on 360's?[/quotec1bbffea92]

Yes, the people who were previously approved are still waiting for their xbox 360s...

drunkmonkey

01-03-2006 12:39:36

[quote1d53ec9034="Jake"]But when my colleagues and I have a hundred other things on our plates, this doesn't happen that fast.[/quote1d53ec9034]

Looks like we just found out what 1 of those other hundred things was. I guess I couldn't focus on obtaining 360s either if I was busy finding a way to stop so many people from completing my sites.[/vent]

ffactoryxx

01-03-2006 18:20:55

This is absurd

JesusNerd

02-03-2006 00:48:15

People are annoying.

I've waited a long time myself. I have yet to complain. My emotional stability isn't wrecked by not receiving an XBOX 360 "on time", or not receiving a $30 remote.

I expected this. I'm just surprised that so many of you didn't.

EDIT This was before reading the thread about the policy change. I don't trust 'em at all now. Continue your complaining and whatnot.

VGM

02-03-2006 01:38:21

[quotef644bf1b90="CollidgeGraduit"][quotef644bf1b90="Jake"]
If you can suggest good, reliable vendors, I'm all ears.[/quotef644bf1b90]

WTF Jake, you want specifics? Telling you that my one friend that works for this one chain can get almost 1,000 xbox's from this one vendor isn't enough?[/quotef644bf1b90]

I spoke to the gaming chain that received the large shipment of xbox's. They received a couple hundred at each of a few stores, totaling between 800-900. They received these directly from Microsoft. This deal had been set up for quite awhile, apparently, so they expected it sooner than they acutally got them as well. They also got a small discount on each xbox360 (came out to 20-40 dollars cheaper for each). It looks like they're still not incredibly easy to get in [if644bf1b90]bulk[/if644bf1b90], however an xbox 360 tracker is reporting that there are well over one hundred within 15 minutes driving distance of me.

drunkmonkey

02-03-2006 07:53:24

How long do we have to wait before we can officially call this a scam?

VGM

02-03-2006 07:56:56

[quoted7450baffa="Jake"][quoted7450baffa="syk_skillz"]
I hope these suppliers pan out Jake. [/quoted7450baffa]

As do I. ;)

I'll let you know if I hear anything substantial.[/quoted7450baffa]

Jake, could you read this thread? http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=34284

It seems there is a problem with the site where referral links are not going through right now. I also PM'd you about it!

ffactoryxx

02-03-2006 10:44:45

I think they know whats going on with the xbox 360's. I just dont understand why we cant know if they ordered them yet. What they are doing to get more and get good updates rather than the sa,e bullshit of "yes we are trying to get new suppliers"

Drummer16161616

02-03-2006 21:50:50

[quote5d2498ce02="ffactoryxx"]I think they know whats going on with the xbox 360's. I just dont understand why we cant know if they ordered them yet. What they are doing to get more and get good updates rather than the sa,e bullshit of "yes we are trying to get new suppliers"[/quote5d2498ce02]

Yea, if they kept us updated more often on the status it wouldnt be so bad. I'd like to hear what's going on regularly. It's the least they could do.

ilanbg

02-03-2006 23:09:21

1. Freepay has changed terms to their sites.
2. All current accounts will be disabled in three months.
3. Freepay has not sent out any gifts for one of their major sites.
4. One of Freepay's other major sites includes another unreleased product.

I'm not usually one for conspiracies, but I'm worried now that by 2007 or whenever the PS3 is released, Freepay will have diminished, gone bankrupt, or etc.

Jake

03-03-2006 07:09:09

[quoted6ac8de41e="ilanbg"]1. Freepay has changed terms to their sites.
2. All current accounts will be disabled in three months.
3. Freepay has not sent out any gifts for one of their major sites.
4. One of Freepay's other major sites includes another unreleased product.

I'm not usually one for conspiracies, but I'm worried now that by 2007 or whenever the PS3 is released, Freepay will have diminished, gone bankrupt, or etc.[/quoted6ac8de41e]

None of the accounts that have their offer terms completed will disappear. Everyone who is waiting for these items will receive them.

We are not going out of business. People seem to think so however this is not the case.

4Nothin

03-03-2006 07:33:58

Jake,

Surely you know something about the 360 situation by now? They are in stock now at both my local Best Buy and Circuit City. Perhaps you can make another inquiry to the proper individuals to see if anything has panned out? We would all be very grateful )

-Manhole

drunkmonkey

03-03-2006 08:05:41

Not only that, we'd be [if492bc94c4]grateful[/if492bc94c4] as well. wink

4Nothin

03-03-2006 08:08:59

[quoteb1e3cf46d5="drunkmonkey"]Not only that, we'd be [ib1e3cf46d5]grateful[/ib1e3cf46d5] as well. wink[/quoteb1e3cf46d5]

Did someone spell [ib1e3cf46d5]grateful[/ib1e3cf46d5] wrong ;) I don't know what you're talking about D

drunkmonkey

03-03-2006 12:11:11

Good news...hopefully

XBox 360 Supplies Finally Catching Up With Demand[=http//www.realmmedia.com/next_gen_news/2006/03/xbox_360_supplies_finally_catching_up_with_demand.html]XBox 360 Supplies Finally Catching Up With Demand

RM200

03-03-2006 14:17:01

ya i just checked... 3 best buy,circuit city's near me has had 360s in stock for a few days now.

justinag06

03-03-2006 20:32:52

ok i just called customer service they told me the new update,

freepay is sending jake out to all the best buys across the nation he will personally invite you to meet him at said best buy then he will buy you the xbox then hand it to you.

He won't buy you a remote but he will make a small distraction to allow for you to try and steal one from the best buy, they don't have alarm thingies on em.

oh and then he'll take you out for ice cream/hot coco your choice just as a sign of thanks for the extra 4 months.

they decided to do it this way because they got a call the other day informing them that someones best buy had about 5 premiums in stock, so they decided to jump on it and get on the damn ball.

Also they are sending a crew along to film a reality show documenting the whole thing for some network.

Now bspense will get to be on TV for a third time!!!!!1!!!!

egyptianruin

03-03-2006 22:10:58

What some people don't understand is that Best Buy is the official retailer of the 360, they are going to be the first to get them. Since the 360 was released I have seen ONE core system at an EBGames and that's about it. I ask Target, Toys R Us, Best Buy and Circuit City if they have 360's and they say no way havent had any for weeks. I live in Baltimore and here they are STILL scarce. I am sure it is improving but the EB Games Manager said that Microsoft is spitting out core systems like no tomorrow - but the premium ones are the ones they need.

oh and lol about Jake going to BBY to pick em up personally

Menotti

03-03-2006 22:36:40

I think people are losing faith because of a number of problems receiving items properly on other Freepay sites - see the iPod forum - particularly my problem

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=34010

Drummer16161616

04-03-2006 01:18:09

[quote93e1b75ad4="Menotti"]I think people are losing faith because of a number of problems receiving items properly on other Freepay sites - see the iPod forum - particularly my problem

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=34010[/quote93e1b75ad4]

Number of problems appear to rise as a company grows and there are more chances to go wrong. Take the XBOX 360 overheating issues for example. It was blown out of proportion all over the internet when in reality only a very small percentage of them had issues. I have gotten all 6 items that were shipped by freepay to me on time and in perfect condition (with exception to the digicam box being a little bent which was most likely UPS's fault). I also have several real life friends that have received stuff from Freepay and never had issues. Until I see someone I know screwed over by them, I will still say they are good. And, I as well have only seen 2 xbox 360 core systems in a store and I just checked walmart this afternoon and none were to be found. I hope supply catches up with demand soon...

KeithA

04-03-2006 06:24:04

[quotefafb561030="justinag06"]ok i just called customer service they told me the new update,

freepay is sending jake out to all the best buys across the nation he will personally invite you to meet him at said best buy then he will buy you the xbox then hand it to you.

etc.[/quotefafb561030]

+karma. Good points made hilariously.

mpbollywoodking

05-03-2006 05:26:50

what if i cancel my order and reorder it? Would it go into Processing again or be back to Pending Approval?

ilanbg

05-03-2006 08:57:48

It would go in Processing.

But why would you do that?

drunkmonkey

05-03-2006 09:23:02

I might have to do that, if 360s don't ship before I move. I know I'm not the only one.

justinag06

05-03-2006 12:56:41

I did that to mine, mpbollywood king im still processing, but it was before the change.

I don't think it would change for you, you've already been approved. the form is only required for the request approval step.

mpbollywoodking

06-03-2006 07:39:58

ya, than again, i can't cancel my order for the 360 because i'm in pending approval.

wingaman

07-03-2006 06:58:22

Jake, any updates at all on suppliers man?

nickman

07-03-2006 07:16:46

I think you can find a million posts from Jake on this forum (especially on this topic) saying "As soon as I get any new information, I'll let you guys know." but still - people constantly ask.

parkers

07-03-2006 14:53:44

I agree with Drummer ^^^ Freepay looks to me like its about to go belly-up. I wouldn't be too surprised if one day they just "disappear" and no-one has there 360 they waited for. As for me I still need 1 more referral, and now i got this damn deadline @.

bjrock11

08-03-2006 07:52:20

status changed from "pending approval" to "back ordered" could this mean freepay has found the supplier? a status change is at least a positive step

justinag06

08-03-2006 08:02:21

looks like it

im still processing

so that means not everyones account says backordered

Truxity.net

08-03-2006 08:39:17

Mines is still processing. I think with the people who were pending approval goes to backordered while those who went back to processing will be getting first shipment while those on backordered will be getting theirs in a later shipment. If this is true I hope this means they will be shipping very soon.

PoPoJiJo

08-03-2006 10:37:18

I am still processing

crescendo

08-03-2006 11:04:05

i was pending approval and now i'm back ordered...there could be something to that theory.

i blame history

08-03-2006 11:06:08

mine still says processing. placed the order on 8/25/05.

Menotti

08-03-2006 11:58:50

Processing, order placed 11/8/2005

skillet2003

08-03-2006 13:36:04

mine still says processing, ordered 11/22

Corlath

08-03-2006 13:51:09

Sorry, i'm late in this thread an don't understand all - you are waiting for your box since nearly 4 months ???
All from freepay ?

mpbollywoodking

08-03-2006 13:55:47

is processing better than Back Ordered?

Back Ordered sounds worse (

i blame history

08-03-2006 13:59:39

[quoted008cf4883="mpbollywoodking"]is processing better than Back Ordered?

Back Ordered sounds worse ([/quoted008cf4883]

i wish we knew... it doenst make much sense, as of now, for the ps3 sites to say back ordered, but i guess technicaly they are... seeing as there are no units to send, and once they get them in, they will ship...

for the 360 to be backordered, it seems that people who placed their orders in 2005 are still processing, while those who placed them in 2006 are backordered. just speculation, but maybe freepay has a better idea of when/how many they will be able to ship, so those who will have to wait a bit longer for the second batch have been put on backorder, while those who are still processing will be in the first shipment.

i dont think 'back ordered' means anything bad.. usually it means "we have none, but once we get them, we will send them out."

drunkmonkey

08-03-2006 14:12:41

Honestly, I don't think there's been a change. Freepay was just tired of people bitching about being in "Pending Approval" stage after already being approved, so until they fix whatever problem they're having, they changed the wording to say "Back Ordered" to put a few people at ease.

justinag06

08-03-2006 20:17:43

yeah I agree

crescendo

09-03-2006 15:31:24

[quotef3737ac773]Honestly, I don't think there's been a change. Freepay was just tired of people bitching about being in "Pending Approval" stage after already being approved, so until they fix whatever problem they're having, they changed the wording to say "Back Ordered" to put a few people at ease.[/quotef3737ac773]

Well why change it to Back Ordered, that will just bring more questions. If they wanted to stop people from complaining (as if you could do that) change it back to processing. Why are the post new years orders back-ordered, and the pre-new years still processing?

Daggoth

09-03-2006 19:00:14

On the bright note, Trainn's next shipment is going to ship up to mid-january

xXHasek99

10-03-2006 01:08:05

[quote9efd63f886="Daggoth"]On the bright note, Trainn's next shipment is going to ship up to mid-january[/quote9efd63f886]

LoL, wrong section Dag roll

Daggoth

11-03-2006 18:26:58

[quote540d7e8061="xXHasek99"][quote540d7e8061="Daggoth"]On the bright note, Trainn's next shipment is going to ship up to mid-january[/quote540d7e8061]

LoL, wrong section Dag roll[/quote540d7e8061]

Nah, I meant to post it here ;)

GSXR 600

11-03-2006 23:24:18

Damn, I'm really broke and counting on selling my 360 soon...my buyer won't wait forever. (

Iloveipods2

12-03-2006 19:25:41

come on freepay, 1st the 360 deal and now 90 day limit, i'm majorly dissapointed. Our patience better be compensated for with a game and contoller or two.

massman

13-03-2006 06:42:15

[quotea527094dcd="Iloveipods2"]come on freepay, 1st the 360 deal and now 90 day limit, i'm majorly dissapointed. Our patience better be compensated for with a game and contoller or two.[/quotea527094dcd]

we aren't getting any extra controller or game. for that matter, we aren't getting anything. Freepay is trying to get as much $ in the door right now before they go Chapter 11.

And then there is nothing we can do about it. cry

drunkmonkey

13-03-2006 08:53:14

I still don't get it. Trainn is shipped thru Jan. 19th. WHY is Freepay waiting on a huge bulk order? How far would they be if they had been doing smaller "Trainn-sized" shipments this whole time?

Menotti

13-03-2006 09:01:29

It would just be really useful for (at least) daily updates about the status. All it takes is a simple "the shipment of xbox360s should arrive to us by such and such a date, so we will begin shipping on whenever"

I find it hard to believe they have so little info from their suppliers.

drunkmonkey

13-03-2006 09:05:22

I don't even need daily status updates...just [b5e70e0c421]A[/b5e70e0c421] status update would be nice. roll

egyptianruin

13-03-2006 09:22:09

Still saying May - I sent FreePay a ticket asking if April was a more accurate ship date for 360's and they responded that they expect to ship them in March, lol. Sad thing is they also EXPECTED to ship them in November, January and February too. o

Menotti

13-03-2006 11:33:11

[quotedd2b11e058="drunkmonkey"]I don't even need daily status updates...just [bdd2b11e058]A[/bdd2b11e058] status update would be nice. roll[/quotedd2b11e058]

Agreed. Something - anything!

woohooafreeipod

13-03-2006 16:12:43

If Freepay is going to ship the Xbox 360s in March, then surely they must have a date for when they are going to ship them by now. I doubt their vendor is going to get the xboxes and ship them out in less than 2 weeks (till the end of march) without letting freepay know that they got them.

In other words, if Freepay hasnt secured a supplier of Xbox 360s by now, then I highly doubt that we will see our Xbox 360s until late April/Early May, if not later. x

ucool22

13-03-2006 19:49:21

agreed, any updates jake? if not do u know a time when u'll have some updates?

Brok3n_Sword

14-03-2006 14:00:51

licoughli

egyptianruin

14-03-2006 19:04:25

He said in another thread they hadn't gotten any shipments yet nor have they had any luck finding a supplier.

CougarKid

14-03-2006 20:13:47

Soon Microsoft should be getting a nice shipment out of the 360's and Freepay should have no problem finding a supplier.

iamzim

15-03-2006 09:54:09

I figured this should be in here(seeing as how it has to do with the 360 and all)

[quote4b0856942e="crescendo"][quote4b0856942e="Jake"][quote4b0856942e="drunkmonkey"]
I'll get that info to Trainn, maybe they'll stop shipping once they find out.[/quote4b0856942e]

Ask him how he is getting them and how many he has shipped while you're at it.[/quote4b0856942e]

Just asked Alan via pm...

"Obviously it wouldn't be wise to shoot ourselves in the foot so I'm not going to give the supplier away, but to date we've shipped 142 Xbox 360 systems (thats orders from May to Jan 19th) and are receiving semi-regular weekly shipments of the system.

Alan"

To freepay's higherups (not Jake) - It may not be the 50% bundle you're looking for, but its more than 0![/quote4b0856942e]


It's now halfway through the month, and my hopes of getting my 360 are going down. (especially after reading about gratis selling email information)

Truxity.net

15-03-2006 14:28:55

[quoted3ed8b08cc]To freepay's higherups (not Jake) - It may not be the 50% bundle you're looking for, but its more than 0![/quoted3ed8b08cc]

Wow it's so depressing how true that statement is.

crescendo

15-03-2006 19:13:53

It doesn't look good for march, especially with the whole selling emails/glitch/90 day new policy thing. It seems that Trainn is the tortoise and Freepay is the hare. Looks like slow and steady, if not the better option, will at least shut people up.

mykevermin

15-03-2006 22:15:33

I noticed this on FreePay's site earlier today

[quotefaa9a330d7]Once you have completed these steps, we will ship your order out promptly just like you ordered your free product on any other online store, but you won't be paying a dime. So, what are you waiting for? Don't miss out, and sign up for a FreePay website today![/quotefaa9a330d7]

I'll give FreePay a dollar if they remove the word "promptly" and replace it with "whenever the fuck we get around to it." Y'know, truth in advertising and all that.

What's disappointing is the idea that other sites offered bonuses because people had been waiting so long (OC, for instance). I'm at a point right now, perhaps like many of you, that I'm concerned that I'll never get the system at all. This was the first freebie site I completed, and it certainly hasn't given me any incentive to finish other sites at all. We've been waiting so long that I don't even expect a media remote, or an extra controller, or even a free sticker (y'know, something cheap to satisfy our wait). We've been waiting so long that I think many of us would be satisfied if we just got the goddamn console.

What has me particularly worried and paranoid is that FP isn't even considering cash payouts (via paypal) as an option. They could easily shut a lot of us up real quick if they'd simply do that. It's frustrating and regrettably peculiar that they won't even do that (and they certainly haven't given a cogent explanation as to liwhyli they won't pay people out). That has me more concerned than anything else at the moment (y'know, like they lack the funds to pay us out).

Menotti

15-03-2006 23:37:16

[quote6a2f0282a5="mykevermin"]

What's disappointing is the idea that other sites offered bonuses because people had been waiting so long (OC, for instance). I'm at a point right now, perhaps like many of you, that I'm concerned that I'll never get the system at all. This was the first freebie site I completed, and it certainly hasn't given me any incentive to finish other sites at all. We've been waiting so long that I don't even expect a media remote, or an extra controller, or even a free sticker (y'know, something cheap to satisfy our wait). We've been waiting so long that I think many of us would be satisfied if we just got the goddamn console.

What has me particularly worried and paranoid is that FP isn't even considering cash payouts (via paypal) as an option. They could easily shut a lot of us up real quick if they'd simply do that. It's frustrating and regrettably peculiar that they won't even do that (and they certainly haven't given a cogent explanation as to liwhyli they won't pay people out). That has me more concerned than anything else at the moment (y'know, like they lack the funds to pay us out).[/quote6a2f0282a5]

Agree 100%. For waiting this long, we at least deserve some better info about the status of obtaining a supplier (if you haven't read other threads, they don't even have one right now) and why they are not considering straight cash.

My first freebie was so easy from them (a Nano about 6 months ago)...but now with my ipod video and the 360 (completed in Jan 2006 and Nov 2005, respectively), I'm getting worried - particularly with the lack of information.

drunkmonkey

16-03-2006 06:56:09

So, is there some sort of script on the website that will automatically change the estimated ship date to "April" on a certain date, or has the webmaster just not gotten around to it yet?

iamzim

16-03-2006 07:07:22

The statement on the website should say


"Due to the Xbox 360's being found in retail stores frequently, we are unable to fulfill our customer's Xbox 360 orders until the 2006 - 2007 timeframe. You can still go to the store and buy one yourself and cancel your order with us. Thank you for you continued patience while we continue to hardly work to fulfill your orders as soon as possible. "


please don't misinterpret this. It's not a stab at freepay, or their employees. I am certain that they really are working hard to get the 360's. It is simply how i'm sure many people feel about this situation.

I will continue to try and patiently wait for my 360 to arrive (because i can't afford to buy one...hell, when i get it, i still wont be able to buy a game (or a hdtv for that matter!)) Hopefully everything will work out sometime soon..if not this month, hopefully MS will get out more systems next month!

mykevermin

16-03-2006 07:49:10

[quote7f79cf99d0="iamzim"]It's not a stab at freepay, or their employees. I am certain that they really are working hard to get the 360's.[/quote7f79cf99d0]

Do you really believe that?

iamzim

16-03-2006 07:51:58

I believe that someone at least spends some time on it (if they give up after 10 minutes a day, i'm not certain) but i'm sure that they are doing something. that being said, it would appear that this something that they are doing, is not working very well, and they should probably try something else!! (i.e. not waiting for a large bulk shippment)

drunkmonkey

16-03-2006 07:57:33

Honestly, I don't think they're doing much besides calling their normal vendor and saying "Got a thousand yet?"

The fact that they won't give cash options even though they pay retail price is not very soothing. Anyone know how much money they lost in the recent settlement? Could that have anything to do with it?

iamzim

16-03-2006 08:03:30

Has anyone actually given a reason for the whole waiting for a bulk shippment? It's been stated that there is no discount on a bulk orders, so what's the point? the fact that MS didnt have a ton of 360's out made sense, but not getting their hands on any they could get and waiting for a large order is just puzzling

mykevermin

16-03-2006 08:45:51

There are many things about the scenario that don't make any logical sense, unless you want to end with the conclusion "Freepay can't afford to buy any or send anything out." Why they lack the resources to buy them in small increments and please some people (rather than piss off everybody equally), and why they refuse to give cash payputs, leads me to think that the only logical explanation for their stubbornness in this situation is because they can't afford to pay anyone or ship anyone.

That may be true, and perhaps someone will jump down my throat for daring to suggest that FreePay won't come through. If you feel that way, go ahead and respond, but let me propose this to you first What lirational, logicalli explanation can you give for Freepay's unwillingness to send out orders in small shipments? What lirational, logicalli explanation can you give for Freepay's insistence on ordering several hundred at once? What lirational, logicalli explanation can you give for Freepay's unwillingness to provide paypal money to those who have 360s available at many of the stores they frequent, but are stuck waiting on a company that seems to be doing little and saying even less?

If they aren't strapped for cash, where is the logic?

Menotti

16-03-2006 09:22:44

Agree with mykevermin. Everything points to low funds.

iamzim

16-03-2006 09:30:22

Maybe they're planning on holding out until the PS3 comes out in hopes that the price for the 360's will drop, then they'll have the funds to get them.

GSXR 600

16-03-2006 10:01:43

Hey, if freepay can save a couple of dollars on each 360 by buying in bulk I will wait as long as it takes.

J4320

16-03-2006 10:03:22

A long time back I said that as long as they get me this thing before Oblivion I'll be happy. I don't think they're gonna be able to do that. (

iamzim

16-03-2006 10:11:21

As stated before...I don't believe that they save any money by buying in bulk. (I'm also reasonably sure that MS looses money on the sale of each 360, so I don't know why anyone would give extra discounts for more units purchased)

When is Oblivion supposed to come out?? I've seen some shots from it, and it looks amazing!

mykevermin

16-03-2006 10:16:19

[quote46ae3dcacb="GSXR 600"]Hey, if freepay can save a couple of dollars on each 360 by buying in bulk I will wait as long as it takes.[/quote46ae3dcacb]

If you even accept the false presumption that they lidoli save money buying in bulk (they don't), the interest generated by the sheer dollar amount that FP is sitting on currently, not buying 360s, is more than enough to cover that hypothetical savings.

Oblivion comes out this Tuesday, 3/20. I preordered under the false presumption that I'd have a 360 by now.

Menotti

16-03-2006 10:54:49

[quote83c1549a02="GSXR 600"]Hey, if freepay can save a couple of dollars on each 360 by buying in bulk I will wait as long as it takes.[/quote83c1549a02]

They've already said that they are obtaining the units at retail price.

egyptianruin

16-03-2006 11:42:08

[quotee4df157da4="mykevermin"][quotee4df157da4="GSXR 600"]Hey, if freepay can save a couple of dollars on each 360 by buying in bulk I will wait as long as it takes.[/quotee4df157da4]

If you even accept the false presumption that they lidoli save money buying in bulk (they don't), the interest generated by the sheer dollar amount that FP is sitting on currently, not buying 360s, is more than enough to cover that hypothetical savings.

Oblivion comes out this Tuesday, 3/20. I preordered under the false presumption that I'd have a 360 by now.[/quotee4df157da4]

yeah I forsaw not getting my 360 from FreePay for months so I reserved one in May 2005. I should be all set for Oblivion, everyone can come over and join me to play if they like! I will share my 360 since FreePay hasn't fufilled their orders yet (sigh)

Drummer16161616

16-03-2006 12:39:19

[quote59f62602b4="J4320"]A long time back I said that as long as they get me this thing before Oblivion I'll be happy. I don't think they're gonna be able to do that. ([/quote59f62602b4]

Yes, I was rather upset by this since the game is coming to me soon and decided to try to buy a 360 and couldn't find one.

NYCGrrl73

16-03-2006 13:24:30

I agree 100%.

[quote648764ada3="mykevermin"]There are many things about the scenario that don't make any logical sense, unless you want to end with the conclusion "Freepay can't afford to buy any or send anything out." Why they lack the resources to buy them in small increments and please some people (rather than piss off everybody equally), and why they refuse to give cash payputs, leads me to think that [b648764ada3]the only logical explanation for their stubbornness in this situation is because they can't afford to pay anyone or ship anyone[/b648764ada3].

That may be true, and perhaps someone will jump down my throat for daring to suggest that FreePay won't come through. If you feel that way, go ahead and respond, but let me propose this to you first What lirational, logicalli explanation can you give for Freepay's unwillingness to send out orders in small shipments? What lirational, logicalli explanation can you give for Freepay's insistence on ordering several hundred at once? What lirational, logicalli explanation can you give for Freepay's unwillingness to provide paypal money to those who have 360s available at many of the stores they frequent, but are stuck waiting on a company that seems to be doing little and saying even less?

If they aren't strapped for cash, where is the logic?[/quote648764ada3]

Jake

16-03-2006 14:20:00

[quotee1c8a4aa13="mykevermin"]think that the only logical explanation for their stubbornness in this situation is because they can't afford to pay anyone or ship anyone.
[/quotee1c8a4aa13]

Based on what logic? I'm still getting paid, my coworkers are still getting paid, the company still exists, and I sent out a whole pile of stuff today. How does this result in the conclusion that we can't afford them?

[quotee1c8a4aa13="mykevermin"]
What lirational, logicalli explanation can you give for Freepay's insistence on ordering several hundred at once? What lirational, logicalli explanation can you give for Freepay's unwillingness to provide paypal money to those who have 360s available at many of the stores they frequent, but are stuck waiting on a company that seems to be doing little and saying even less?
[/quotee1c8a4aa13]

Because its easier to get several hundred and ship them out all at once. Besides, getting 10 units at a time wouldn't put a substantial dent in the orders anyway.

Jake

16-03-2006 14:21:49

[quote5e1a1f584a="Drummer16161616"]
Yes, I was rather upset by this since the game is coming to me soon and [b5e1a1f584a]decided to try to buy a 360 and couldn't find one.[/b5e1a1f584a][/quote5e1a1f584a]

Thank you for pointing this obvious fact out.

drunkmonkey

16-03-2006 14:28:55

[quote5d849be198="Jake"]Because its easier to get several hundred and ship them out all at once. Besides, getting 10 units at a time wouldn't put a substantial dent in the orders anyway.[/quote5d849be198]

I guess that depends on how many "10 at a times" you were able to get out.


Can you tell us how many orders there are, or at least the size of the shipment you're waiting on, or is that confidential?

Jake

16-03-2006 14:31:07

[quotece5c766c42="drunkmonkey"]
Can you tell us how many orders there are, or at least the size of the shipment you're waiting on, or is that confidential?[/quotece5c766c42]

There are several hundred orders waiting to be fulfilled. The volume is quite high and even with a few 10 unit shipments, we wouldn't have put much of a dent in the overall amount.

J4320

16-03-2006 14:32:54

Giftcards! D

That's all I'm wishing for right now after waiting over a year.

igneous

16-03-2006 14:36:16

[quote4cb25f2fb0="J4320"]Giftcards! D

That's all I'm wishing for right now after waiting over a year.[/quote4cb25f2fb0]
Thats really what they should have done. It sucks that its still hard to find xbox 360s, so just give us the choice and give us a GC.

Wolfeman

16-03-2006 14:36:38

[quotef8f6a6747e="J4320"]Giftcards! D

That's all I'm wishing for right now after waiting over a year.[/quotef8f6a6747e]
It couldn't be over a year...

J4320

16-03-2006 14:38:46

[quotedbc26896a8="igneous"][quotedbc26896a8="J4320"]Giftcards! D

That's all I'm wishing for right now after waiting over a year.[/quotedbc26896a8]
[bdbc26896a8]Thats really what they should have done. [/bdbc26896a8] It sucks that its still hard to find xbox 360s, so just give us the choice and give us a GC.[/quotedbc26896a8]

They still can. )

I've been really patient for a long time now and I'm just trying to get them to consider an alternative or else we'll be waiting A LOT longer, probably beyond 2 months.

mykevermin

16-03-2006 14:53:48

[quote962f040bd3="Jake"][quote962f040bd3="mykevermin"]think that the only logical explanation for their stubbornness in this situation is because they can't afford to pay anyone or ship anyone.
[/quote962f040bd3]

Based on what logic? I'm still getting paid, my coworkers are still getting paid, the company still exists, and I sent out a whole pile of stuff today. How does this result in the conclusion that we can't afford them?[/quote962f040bd3]

The only scenario in which "doing nothing" makes sense is one in which your financial status is worse than what is publicly known. I didn't say that you liwereli going under; what I lididli say was that not doing anything to satisfy the greivances of anyone who completed the 360 site, when several alternative options to your preferred method are available (sending out giftcards, or buying them in smaller quantities), only limakes senseli in the context of a company who lacks the resources to do anything about the backorders. I'm not saying you're going under, but I am saying liyour policies don't make sense.li

For the record, why can you send ~20 macminis and ~50 shuffles, but you must await a bulk order of 360s before doing anything?

[quote962f040bd3="Jake"][quote962f040bd3="mykevermin"]
What lirational, logicalli explanation can you give for Freepay's insistence on ordering several hundred at once? What lirational, logicalli explanation can you give for Freepay's unwillingness to provide paypal money to those who have 360s available at many of the stores they frequent, but are stuck waiting on a company that seems to be doing little and saying even less?
[/quote962f040bd3]

Because its easier to get several hundred and ship them out all at once. Besides, getting 10 units at a time wouldn't put a substantial dent in the orders anyway.[/quote962f040bd3]

Let me play one last hypothetical game. If you had purchased and shipped 360s in smaller quantities, now that we are approaching 17 weeks after release, you could have sent anywhere from close to 200 consoles out (with a high estimate of around 10-12 consoles/week), or 100 consoles (with a more conservative estimate of 5 consoles/week average). Since you have "several hundred" orders pending, this leads me (if I take you at your word) to mean "less than a thousand" orders. So, if we take the conservative estimate of 100 consoles shipped in 17 weeks, and take the maximum number of orders possible without breachin 1000 (that's 999, just in case), then by playing the "slow and steady" appraoch, you'd have sent out, libare minimumli, 10% of your pending 360 orders as of today. Now, I know that 10% isn't a good thing on a math test, or a down payment, or, well...many other things. But the ability to tell us that you've satisfied 10% of the 360 orders, liwithoutli sending out a single giftcard or alternative freebie, would shut a hell of a lot of people up.

thenameisjoe

16-03-2006 14:57:08

[quote7683eb1c9e]Because its easier to get several hundred and ship them out all at once. Besides, getting 10 units at a time wouldn't put a substantial dent in the orders anyway.[/quote7683eb1c9e]

obviously it's not easier since you've been trying for months. 10 units at a time would slowly satisfy at least the customers that managed to complete the site in advance with the false promise of a pre-ordered system.

I dont buy it.

timmerk

16-03-2006 14:57:52

I'd accept a $400 giftcard no problem!

Wolfeman

16-03-2006 14:59:46

How many times do you guys have to say the same thing over and over and OVER again. For fuck's sake nothing you guys say is going to change anything and no matter how valid a point its obvious they are going to do what they are going to do. Jake has already said giftcards are not an option and never will be, I don't see how that can change...

J4320

16-03-2006 15:07:21

[quotee94ece4a27="Wolfeman"]How many times do you guys have to say the same thing over and over and OVER again. For fuck's sake nothing you guys say is going to change anything and no matter how valid a point its obvious they are going to do what they are going to do. Jake has already said giftcards are not an option and never will be, I don't see how that can change...[/quotee94ece4a27]

I heard that a long time ago too. But this is just getting rediculous and I don't see why they shouldn't.

thenameisjoe

16-03-2006 15:08:16

[quote7468ff65f0]How many times do you guys have to say the same thing over and over and OVER again. For fuck's sake nothing you guys say is going to change anything and no matter how valid a point its obvious they are going to do what they are going to do. Jake has already said giftcards are not an option and never will be, I don't see how that can change...[/quote7468ff65f0]

a mod not liking negative posts about Freepay? Thats insane! So refreshing!
is this not the "discuss the 360 situation" thread?

Wolfeman

16-03-2006 15:08:22

I wish they would too but they've already said more than once they won't so there is no reason to keep asking...

Jake

16-03-2006 15:08:54

[quotecd5ba051ea="thenameisjoe"]
obviously it's not easier since you've been trying for months. 10 units at a time would slowly satisfy at least the customers that managed to complete the site in advance with the false promise of a pre-ordered system.

I dont buy it.[/quotecd5ba051ea]

It is easier to ship them all at once.

Is it not easier to ship 1 shipment of 100 units as opposed to 10 shipments of 10 units each?

mykevermin

16-03-2006 15:09:45

[quote6f5b9bc704="thenameisjoe"][quote6f5b9bc704]How many times do you guys have to say the same thing over and over and OVER again. For fuck's sake nothing you guys say is going to change anything and no matter how valid a point its obvious they are going to do what they are going to do. Jake has already said giftcards are not an option and never will be, I don't see how that can change...[/quote6f5b9bc704]

a mod not liking negative posts about Freepay? Thats insane! So refreshing!
is this not the "discuss the 360 situation" thread?[/quote6f5b9bc704]

Of course. It's not stickied for liuse and discussionli, dunderpate; it's stickied for posterity, like a shitty Jackson Pollack work at your art museum.

J4320

16-03-2006 15:13:07

Jake -

So why [i294904b9f3]won't[/i294904b9f3] you guys do giftcards? Can you just give a suggestion to your superiors about giving a giftcard option to the people who have been waiting a LONG time?

I don't see why Freepay won't. Like I said before, it saves on shipping, it satisfies customers, and it shows that Freepay is trying hard to make the customers happy.

Wolfeman

16-03-2006 15:14:00

[quote0761d554a3="thenameisjoe"][quote0761d554a3]How many times do you guys have to say the same thing over and over and OVER again. For fuck's sake nothing you guys say is going to change anything and no matter how valid a point its obvious they are going to do what they are going to do. Jake has already said giftcards are not an option and never will be, I don't see how that can change...[/quote0761d554a3]

a mod not liking negative posts about Freepay? Thats insane! So refreshing!
is this not the "discuss the 360 situation" thread?[/quote0761d554a3]
I love when people say this. Like we have some secret deal with Freepay. I get the same treatment as everyone else.

I want my 360 too. I'd take a giftcard at this point. Its not happening so I don't understand why we have to keep bringing up the same points and same arguments.

Someone try to find a vendor that is ready to ship 300+ Premium 360s at retail and then we can start complaining that Freepay is dragging their feet. This doesn't include going to 100 BestBuys. Someone that'll ship a palette of 360s. They aren't out there, trust me I've tried to find them myself...

J4320

16-03-2006 15:15:22

Wolfeman isn't a mod in this section or anything. He just moderates the DIY section. It's not like he's linked up with Freepay and defending them.

Cow-Tipper

16-03-2006 15:16:06

[quote34a6b31160="Jake"]It is easier to ship them all at once.

Is it not easier to ship 1 shipment of 100 units as opposed to 10 shipments of 10 units each?[/quote34a6b31160]

Easier or do you mean cheaper?

Wolfeman

16-03-2006 15:16:22

[quote1bd10058ce="J4320"]Wolfeman isn't a mod in this section or anything. He just moderates the DIY section. It's not like he's linked up with Freepay and defending them.[/quote1bd10058ce]
Thanks but that goes for all the mods. We don't get special treatment...

Jake

16-03-2006 15:20:53

[quote5d78077663="Cow-Tipper"][quote5d78077663="Jake"]It is easier to ship them all at once.

Is it not easier to ship 1 shipment of 100 units as opposed to 10 shipments of 10 units each?[/quote5d78077663]

Easier or do you mean cheaper?[/quote5d78077663]

Easier was not a synonym for cheaper last time I checked.

thenameisjoe

16-03-2006 15:23:01

the mods may not have a deal with Freepay, but i think most people on here will admit that they tend to show up with their little condescending quips whenever a complaint/negative remark is made towards them.

I dont see the point in complaining about people complaining, especially in a thread that was specifically made for the subject. You dont want people making new topics so you are obviously going to get a lot of repetitive comments.

People are upset and thats not going to change. Get over that. Just like Freepay are not going to change their minds about giftcards, or shipping lower quantities.

Wolfeman

16-03-2006 15:25:11

I don't really care anymore, you guys go nuts...

mykevermin

16-03-2006 15:29:03

[quotedee05e712b="Jake"][quotedee05e712b="mykevermin"]
Allow me to say that I presented a cogent argument, one that need not be debated in this thread; after all, there is a 360 board of its own. I'll be there if you need me.[/quotedee05e712b]

It was nothing more than rampant speculation.[/quotedee05e712b]

I'll bring it to the relevant thread then.

My point is this everyone, save a few patient souls who must have reached the end of the eight-fold path to be this patient, is upset about the 360 situation. By "everyone," I mean "everyone who completed the site," just to be clear.

Now, as a company, you're desperately hoping for a giant truckload of 360 consoles (and, for the record, I'm still hoping for a giant truckload of votes for Kerry in Ohio, but...well, y'know) to send out all at once. You will not send out giftcards and you will not send a few at a time. That, so far, is strictly the facts.

My argument was this (and let me be real clear I'm not asking or begging for giftcards, I'm just making my case to show how this does not make sense for you as a company) the depseration of people seeking their orders would be lessened if giftcards were made an option, or if smaller shipments were sent out. The outrage of us, the mindless mass, could very easily be quelled.

Now, you want to make the argument that on your end, it's logistically easier to send out 100 consoles than 10. I'll concede that point (and quietly wonder if it's cheaper to send out 18 macminis or 31 ipod shuffles at a time). It's a pain in the ass, so that's that.

Now, as for giftcards, as people have probably pointed out, this does several things beneficial to both freepay's users and freepay as a company. (1) It shuts up people who just want the cash, (2) it reduces the burden on Freepay to secure X number of systems (3) it convinces outsiders (those looking to get into trying out freebies) that you are a legitimate business who is good on their promises, (4) it reduces the cost of shipping hundreds of consoles to hundreds of places (and that can't be cheap!). I'm certain there are others.

Now, let me reiterate, I'm not trying to make your company change their mind. I'm merely saying that your company's policy doesn't make a lick of sense. As you misread earlier, I was not saying that FreePay is going under; I said that their attitude towards sending gifts is only logical under the conditions of a company that is going under. A company can be profitable and make nonsensical decisions (and being an Apple user for all but the past two years, I know that all too well). My case isn't that your company is going under, but, rather, that it's acting illogically. Like a petulant child, people point out the benefits of doing things a different way then FreePay has decided to do them; the expediency, the cost effectiveness, the customer relations angle, all used to explain why it makes lisenseli to FP to do things a different way then they are.

The reaction, as I compared it to a petulant child, is to merely respond with a firm "No!" and "This is how we do things; if you don't like it, that's your problem" kinds of attitudes (paraphrasing, not quoting, of course).

That is my argument. It's nothing against you personally, but, rather, the approach your company has taken to this issue. It simply is nonsensical for a profit-making company to behave this way. That's my point. Now I'm going out to drink.

doylnea

16-03-2006 15:32:05

[quoteda6baa433d="thenameisjoe"]People are upset and thats not going to change. Get over that. Just like Freepay are not going to change their minds about giftcards, or shipping lower quantities.[/quoteda6baa433d]

OMG, I agree with something you wrote. Let the heavens rejoice.

As I've explained, (and Jake has confirmed) there are financial reasons for Freepay to have implemented their new T&C. There are financial benefits, not to mention ease of distribution, to shipping 100 products at one time rather than 1 unit 100 times.

I think the decision to change the terms stinks and I can't imagine completing another Freepay site, but complaining about it isn't going to change anything.

PoPoJiJo

16-03-2006 15:39:21

[quotec1962e20a7="doylnea"][quotec1962e20a7="thenameisjoe"]People are upset and thats not going to change. Get over that. Just like Freepay are not going to change their minds about giftcards, or shipping lower quantities.[/quotec1962e20a7]

OMG, I agree with something you wrote. Let the heavens rejoice.

As I've explained, (and Jake has confirmed) there are financial reasons for Freepay to have implemented their new T&C. There are financial benefits, not to mention ease of distribution, to shipping 100 products at one time rather than 1 unit 100 times.

I think the decision to change the terms stinks and I can't imagine completing another Freepay site, but complaining about it isn't going to change anything.[/quotec1962e20a7]
3 things
1. Jake said the reason they don't do smaller shipments has nothing to do with cost but because its harder this is not a good enough reason for me thats a good enough reason for a month delay but this....
2. complaining may not do anything but it sure does make me feel a little better and it doesn't hurt anyone
3. I think ur sexy wink

J4320

16-03-2006 15:40:16

Why can't Jake give me a direct answer about the giftcards? I've asked a lot about it and I just want to know if he can ask his superiors about it since things are starting to get way too long.

thenameisjoe

16-03-2006 15:44:18

[quote49060315e4="doylnea"][quote49060315e4="thenameisjoe"]People are upset and thats not going to change. Get over that. Just like Freepay are not going to change their minds about giftcards, or shipping lower quantities.[/quote49060315e4]

OMG, I agree with something you wrote. Let the heavens rejoice.

As I've explained, (and Jake has confirmed) there are financial reasons for Freepay to have implemented their new T&C. There are financial benefits, not to mention ease of distribution, to shipping 100 products at one time rather than 1 unit 100 times.

I think the decision to change the terms stinks and I can't imagine completing another Freepay site, but complaining about it isn't going to change anything.[/quote49060315e4]

I dont think anyone is even mentioning the new T&C (which is crap IMO) in the last few posts. People are still trying to come up with a [i49060315e4]reasonable[/i49060315e4] explanation to why FP refuses to offer an alternative option instead of hoping for huge bulk order/shipment. I'm sorry but "because its easier" is not good enough for me personally. Just doesnt make sense to me when you have supposedly "100s" of angry customers waiting. As a business my main priority would be to please these people. Now if it was cheaper like some1 said then thats a different story. It's [quote49060315e4]easier[/quote49060315e4] for me to have money if I just stop paying rent but I still have to do it.

Cow-Tipper

16-03-2006 16:36:38

i think its becasue its cheaper. If you call up DHL or whatever and say "I need to ship 300 products to 300 different people, all the products are the same weigh/size" DHL will say "heres a flat rate or everything" and that may be much cheaper than doing it by small batches. But what i dont uderstand is that giftcards cost them nothing to ship, maybe 32 cents per one (thats if supercerts charge that).

Wolfeman

16-03-2006 16:37:41

[quotef1962f494e="Cow-Tipper"]i think its becasue its cheaper. If you call up DHL or whatever and say "I need to ship 300 products to 300 different people, all the products are the same weigh/size" DHL will say "heres a flat rate or everything" and that may be much cheaper than doing it by small batches. But what i dont uderstand is that giftcards cost them nothing to ship, maybe 32 cents per one (thats if supercerts charge that).[/quotef1962f494e]
Doesn't work like that. They probably already have a good rate from DHL and it doesn't matter...

JesterxXx

16-03-2006 19:27:26

[quoted064b1cd89="Jake"][quoted064b1cd89="drunkmonkey"]
Can you tell us how many orders there are, or at least the size of the shipment you're waiting on, or is that confidential?[/quoted064b1cd89]


There are several hundred orders waiting to be fulfilled. The volume is quite high and even with a few 10 unit shipments, we wouldn't have put much of a dent in the overall amount.[/quoted064b1cd89][quoted064b1cd89="Jake"]I have shipped out a total of 145 iPods, 48 Premium iPods, 18 Mac Minis, 31 Shuffles, and a few other miscellaneous items today.

;)[/quoted064b1cd89]

Sorry for yet another xbox question but wasn't the reasoning behind not ordering the 360s in small groupes (25-50 at a time) because Freepay didn't want to deal with small shipments? If that is the case why are you ordering and shipping only 48 premium ipods or 18 mac minis at a time? Wouldn't the same logic mean you would wait to get many many more orders for them?

If Freepay had been sending out small 360 shipments from the start they may even be close to caught up by now ;). Now instead, there is a huge growing "debt" of owed xboxes.

Yes I do understand there is still a major lack of units to buy, but we were told the reason you were not ordering ANY was because you only wanted to ship out tons at a time.

mykevermin

17-03-2006 05:22:43

[quoted0b735545a="JesterxXx"]Sorry for yet another xbox question but wasn't the reasoning behind not ordering the 360s in small groupes (25-50 at a time) because Freepay didn't want to deal with small shipments? If that is the case why are you ordering and shipping only 48 premium ipods or 18 mac minis at a time? Wouldn't the same logic mean you would wait to get many many more orders for them?[/quoted0b735545a]

I'm sure that there are a great deal more backlogged 360 orders than macminis. Does it excuse the seeming contradiction in their business model? Not in my opinion, and this is a point I brought up in one of my previous diatribes. I don't expect to get a straight answer, if at all. After all, I was accused of "rampant speculation" despite putting together a decent argument. Not refuted, not contested, but simply responded to with "no, that's not how it is." I'm sure he has better things to do during his workday, but there are two kinds of answers you're going to get none or unsatisfactory.

Jake

17-03-2006 06:05:23

[quoteb9fdebb1bc="mykevermin"]
but there are two kinds of answers you're going to get none or unsatisfactory.[/quoteb9fdebb1bc]

Well does the fact that M$ only shipped out 240K units in January and 150K units in February answer any questions about the shortage?

Jake

17-03-2006 06:07:32

[quote9644bc5312="JesterxXx"]
Yes I do understand there is still a major lack of units to buy, but we were told the reason you were not ordering ANY was because you only wanted to ship out tons at a time.[/quote9644bc5312]

Thats not the only reason. We have looked and were unable to find the 360s. We took suggestions in this thread and as far as I know, none of them panned out.

I have had a few different people try at different times just to see if we were lucky enough to be in the right place at the right time and nothing came of it.

bjrock11

17-03-2006 06:12:04

Jake-

What is the word from your suppliers? Do they anticipate receiving some 360s this month?

Jake

17-03-2006 06:29:10

[quotece096133ff="bjrock11"]Jake-

What is the word from your suppliers? Do they anticipate receiving some 360s this month?[/quotece096133ff]

They are always on the prowl because there are a number of groups of people who are looking for the same item.

I ask our suppliers everyday.

Believe me, once we get them, you will be the first to hear it.

bjrock11

17-03-2006 06:50:31

[quotee7642d8cd6="Jake"][quotee7642d8cd6="bjrock11"]Jake-

What is the word from your suppliers? Do they anticipate receiving some 360s this month?[/quotee7642d8cd6]

They are always on the prowl because there are a number of groups of people who are looking for the same item.

I ask our suppliers everyday.

Believe me, once we get them, you will be the first to hear it.[/quotee7642d8cd6]

Thank you.

mykevermin

17-03-2006 07:41:41

[quotee6b16ca30a="Jake"][quotee6b16ca30a="mykevermin"]
but there are two kinds of answers you're going to get none or unsatisfactory.[/quotee6b16ca30a]

Well does the fact that M$ only shipped out 240K units in January and 150K units in February answer any questions about the shortage?[/quotee6b16ca30a]

Given that there have been just under 2 million units shipped thus far? No, not really.

CollidgeGraduit

17-03-2006 07:44:52

[quote6eec002987="mykevermin"][quote6eec002987="Jake"][quote6eec002987="mykevermin"]
but there are two kinds of answers you're going to get none or unsatisfactory.[/quote6eec002987]

Well does the fact that M$ only shipped out 240K units in January and 150K units in February answer any questions about the shortage?[/quote6eec002987]

Given that there have been just under 2 million units shipped thus far? No, not really.[/quote6eec002987]

Ding ding ding, you win.. Freepay has been intentionally avoiding getting any in stock, just to piss you off personally. roll

nickman

17-03-2006 08:23:53

I heard Microsoft also shipped out 5 billion remotes JUST LAST WEEK. Where are ours, Jake?!?!?!

thenameisjoe

17-03-2006 08:27:40

[quote4a291a0fde="CollidgeGraduit"][quote4a291a0fde="mykevermin"][quote4a291a0fde="Jake"][quote4a291a0fde="mykevermin"]
but there are two kinds of answers you're going to get none or unsatisfactory.[/quote4a291a0fde]

Well does the fact that M$ only shipped out 240K units in January and 150K units in February answer any questions about the shortage?[/quote4a291a0fde]

Given that there have been just under 2 million units shipped thus far? No, not really.[/quote4a291a0fde]

Ding ding ding, you win.. Freepay has been intentionally avoiding getting any in stock, just to piss you off personally. roll[/quote4a291a0fde]

wow another great contribution to the thread brought to you by the mods of FIPG. Where does he even suggest that?

It really doesnt make sense. Basically there hasnt been any real reply to why ipods/mac minis can be shipped out 20-30 at a time as oppose to xboxes. Are you now saying that you cant find a supplier that has at least 20?

CollidgeGraduit

17-03-2006 08:37:11

[quotec984f19b8a="thenameisjoe"][quotec984f19b8a="CollidgeGraduit"][quotec984f19b8a="mykevermin"][quotec984f19b8a="Jake"][quotec984f19b8a="mykevermin"]
but there are two kinds of answers you're going to get none or unsatisfactory.[/quotec984f19b8a]

Well does the fact that M$ only shipped out 240K units in January and 150K units in February answer any questions about the shortage?[/quotec984f19b8a]

Given that there have been just under 2 million units shipped thus far? No, not really.[/quotec984f19b8a]

Ding ding ding, you win.. Freepay has been intentionally avoiding getting any in stock, just to piss you off personally. roll[/quotec984f19b8a]

wow another great contribution to the thread brought to you by the mods of FIPG. Where does he even suggest that?

It really doesnt make sense. Basically there hasnt been any real reply to why ipods/mac minis can be shipped out 20-30 at a time as oppose to xboxes. Are you now saying that you cant find a supplier that has at least 20?[/quotec984f19b8a]

Well, either Freepay is trying to get their hands on them, or they aren't. His post sure seems to be indicating that he thinks they aren't. Jake has said that their suppliers have been unable to get their hands on any for a long while.

I finally was able to buy one last night, after two full weeks of Best Buy and Circuit City not getting any in the Metro-Detroit area. That's a lot of stores to not have been getting any. Meijer, Target, and Walmart have had the same results in my area.

Given that information, I am not surprised in the least that Freepay's suppliers have been unable to get their hands on 360's for Freepay.

I guess it's just frustrating to me that all these people on the forums think that since they know a little bit of information, they're qualified to decide whether or not Freepay could get their hands on a 360 if they tried.

Perhaps they were looking in the wrong place at the end of 2005, but I am not in the least bit surprised that none are available this year. With less than half a million units shipping in the first two months, and considering that the large retail chains most likely get first crack at what liisli available...

bjrock11

17-03-2006 09:03:31

collidge graduate - when do you think freepay will start shipping the 360s? Didn't M$ open a new factory at the beginning of this month? I have seen articles saying M$ should be caught up by May

drunkmonkey

17-03-2006 09:18:27

For those saying there's no reason Freepay can't get a big shipment, you're wrong. Big shipments just aren't available. Abandon that argument.

For those saying Freepay should have been getting several smaller shipments...well, you may be right. That's what I believe. After all, we know that through small shipments, Trainn has sent out 142 systems. I'm pretty sure if Freepay came across 142 systems tomorrow, they'd jump on it in a heartbeart. So saying "smaller shipments won't make a dent in our demand" isn't really the truth.

(Edit Why is 200 posts the mark for status of "Freepay Fanboy"? That isn't exactly the truth right now...talk to me after 360s start shipping.)

mykevermin

17-03-2006 09:33:36

[quoteb1a5f9d3f0="CollidgeGraduit"]Ding ding ding, you win.. Freepay has been intentionally avoiding getting any in stock, just to piss you off personally. roll[/quoteb1a5f9d3f0]I'm not certain what you're responding to. I'm don't feel singled out, but I do feel that I capably explained why I feel FreePay's current approach to acquiring 360s and/or providing alternative forms of rewards (giftcards) (1) does not benefit users of FP's 360 site, and (2) does not benefit FP themselves. I also feel that they limayli have a right to do business the way they want (and they may not); I would just like a coherent answer to some of these questions, and I feel that they've either not been satisfactorily answered, or completely ignored.

For instance, there is no rational explanation as to why they aren't providing giftcards. I'm not demanding they change their policy, but if you look at my long post on the previous page, their official position on this seems to be "we aren't doing this and we don't have to tell you anything else." I don't think that a company can maintain credibility and act like a petulant child at the same time.

In regards to shipping out small quantities, their official position (if Jake's statement is that) is that bulk orders are "easier." While others have questioned the validity of that given the small quantities of items shipped yesterday (and rightly so, I add), I simply do not think that "it's a pain in the ass" is a valid excuse for a business to behave in a particular way. C'mon, they're located in DC, it's not like the city is lacking for vagrants who will pack and ship all day long for a bottle or two or Ripple (that, folks, is how your sports stadiums get cleaned!). Let me put it this way I find it very difficult to believe that a company who lacks the labor initiative to ship things out in smaller portions than they want to lialsoli has the tenacity to scour the globe for any 360 consoles.

Now, if you want to respond in the only way you know how (which is to grouse in some not-so delicately worded internet speech mocking me for having a greivance at all), be my guest. If you want to sit at the grown ups' table and have a conversation, then I'd much prefer that. For starters, I would recommend arguing points based on what I did say, rather than publicly drawing false conclusions to satisfy your "rep" as a mod.

CollidgeGraduit

17-03-2006 09:44:13

[quotec957611772="mykevermin"][quotec957611772="CollidgeGraduit"]Ding ding ding, you win.. Freepay has been intentionally avoiding getting any in stock, just to piss you off personally. roll[/quotec957611772]I'm not certain what you're responding to. I'm don't feel singled out, but I do feel that I capably explained why I feel FreePay's current approach to acquiring 360s and/or providing alternative forms of rewards (giftcards) (1) does not benefit users of FP's 360 site, and (2) does not benefit FP themselves. I also feel that they limayli have a right to do business the way they want (and they may not); I would just like a coherent answer to some of these questions, and I feel that they've either not been satisfactorily answered, or completely ignored.

For instance, there is no rational explanation as to why they aren't providing giftcards. I'm not demanding they change their policy, but if you look at my long post on the previous page, their official position on this seems to be "we aren't doing this and we don't have to tell you anything else." I don't think that a company can maintain credibility and act like a petulant child at the same time.

In regards to shipping out small quantities, their official position (if Jake's statement is that) is that bulk orders are "easier." While others have questioned the validity of that given the small quantities of items shipped yesterday (and rightly so, I add), I simply do not think that "it's a pain in the ass" is a valid excuse for a business to behave in a particular way. C'mon, they're located in DC, it's not like the city is lacking for vagrants who will pack and ship all day long for a bottle or two or Ripple (that, folks, is how your sports stadiums get cleaned!). Let me put it this way I find it very difficult to believe that a company who lacks the labor initiative to ship things out in smaller portions than they want to lialsoli has the tenacity to scour the globe for any 360 consoles.

Now, if you want to respond in the only way you know how (which is to grouse in some not-so delicately worded internet speech mocking me for having a greivance at all), be my guest. If you want to sit at the grown ups' table and have a conversation, then I'd much prefer that. For starters, I would recommend arguing points based on what I did say, rather than publicly drawing false conclusions to satisfy your "rep" as a mod.[/quotec957611772]

Have you actually asked Jake specifically for a giftcard instead of a 360? Just curious.

Now, in regards to them pulling homeless people off of the street to package small lots of things to ship.. FreePay has lineverli been set up to ship items directly from their office. They don't keep shipping supplies, they don't have the storage space, they don't have the personnel -- and frankly, I don't want a drunk bum packaging my electronics.

In the past, they've just sent orders directly to a vendor, such as Apple or eCost, and the gifts were shipped from there. What you're asking them to do is temporarily restructure the way they fulfill orders. That would be time-consuming and more expensive.

Another issue with trying to get small bunches of 360's is the fact that they would no doubt have to set up credit accounts with a supplier, with terms. I highly doubt that they can just put even 25 360's on a corporate credit card. Larger businesses like IBM might have that kind of credit line, but smaller, younger business like Freepay would not.

Is it worth setting up credit accounts with all sorts of suppliers you've never worked with, if they can only get 10, 15, or 25 from them, and they plan to go back to a single supplier in a few months? Absolutely not.

I don't know all the exact details, so just like you, I'm speculating. But I honestly think that Freepay is doing all that they can within the bounds of their resources -- remember, no matter how many times a company says the customer is first, a company is in business to STAY in business.

mykevermin

17-03-2006 10:06:45

[quotec37d929e74="CollidgeGraduit"]Have you actually asked Jake specifically for a giftcard instead of a 360? Just curious.[/quotec37d929e74]

Nope, I actually don't want one. There are plenty that do, however.

[quotec37d929e74="CollidgeGraduit"]Now, in regards to them pulling homeless people off of the street to package small lots of things to ship.. FreePay has lineverli been set up to ship items directly from their office. They don't keep shipping supplies, they don't have the storage space, they don't have the personnel -- and frankly, I don't want a drunk bum packaging my electronics.[/quotec37d929e74]

It's a hypothetical. They could use temporary labor (manpower or labor ready are two I'm aware of). I'm ethically opposed to day labor, but I also know that I'm not the company, and I doubt they have my ethics. There are sources of cheap, reliable labor. Hiring or not hiring people, however, doesn't seem to fix the problem (which is not one of personnel, but, rather, simply the ease of shipping things out and how one interprets what's best for themselves, the company, and the consumer).

[quotec37d929e74="CollidgeGraduit"]In the past, they've just sent orders directly to a vendor, such as Apple or eCost, and the gifts were shipped from there. What you're asking them to do is temporarily restructure the way they fulfill orders. That would be time-consuming and more expensive.[/quotec37d929e74]

If this is the case, then, it shows that there ought to be no problem with FreePay sending out a few at a time. It removes most all of the logistics liability that was implied by Jake's statement "it's easier to ship in bulk."

[quotec37d929e74="CollidgeGraduit"]Another issue with trying to get small bunches of 360's is the fact that they would no doubt have to set up credit accounts with a supplier, with terms. I highly doubt that they can just put even 25 360's on a corporate credit card. Larger businesses like IBM might have that kind of credit line, but smaller, younger business like Freepay would not.

Is it worth setting up credit accounts with all sorts of suppliers you've never worked with, if they can only get 10, 15, or 25 from them, and they plan to go back to a single supplier in a few months? Absolutely not.

I don't know all the exact details, so just like you, I'm speculating. But I honestly think that Freepay is doing all that they can within the bounds of their resources -- remember, no matter how many times a company says the customer is first, a company is in business to STAY in business.[/quotec37d929e74]

Those are valid points, but I can and will say that it's simply ludicrous to think that the suppliers they currently work with (and they've recently switched anyway, haven't they?) cannot acquire lianyli consoles liat allli over a four month time span. Suppliers have access to resources that you and I do not, so saying that it's difficult to find them in X store is not an apt comparison at all. Such as that is, it is likewise ludicrous to expect FP to go scouring WalMarts looking for consoles as well. It's valid to ask if it's economically foolish to establish a line with a new supplier for 25 consoles; this does not excuse the current suppliers, who are either the most unfortunate souls in their business, completely incompetent, or something else, really.

OTOH, I believe that Jake had taken suggestions from other users here as to where they might find a distributor who can help them out, so what they've admitted to seems to refute that last argument (funny, since I found it to be the most valid).

good2speed

17-03-2006 10:11:13

[quote25df72c627="CollidgeGraduit"][quote25df72c627="mykevermin"][quote25df72c627="CollidgeGraduit"]Ding ding ding, you win.. Freepay has been intentionally avoiding getting any in stock, just to piss you off personally. roll[/quote25df72c627]I'm not certain what you're responding to. I'm don't feel singled out, but I do feel that I capably explained why I feel FreePay's current approach to acquiring 360s and/or providing alternative forms of rewards (giftcards) (1) does not benefit users of FP's 360 site, and (2) does not benefit FP themselves. I also feel that they limayli have a right to do business the way they want (and they may not); I would just like a coherent answer to some of these questions, and I feel that they've either not been satisfactorily answered, or completely ignored.

For instance, there is no rational explanation as to why they aren't providing giftcards. I'm not demanding they change their policy, but if you look at my long post on the previous page, their official position on this seems to be "we aren't doing this and we don't have to tell you anything else." I don't think that a company can maintain credibility and act like a petulant child at the same time.

In regards to shipping out small quantities, their official position (if Jake's statement is that) is that bulk orders are "easier." While others have questioned the validity of that given the small quantities of items shipped yesterday (and rightly so, I add), I simply do not think that "it's a pain in the ass" is a valid excuse for a business to behave in a particular way. C'mon, they're located in DC, it's not like the city is lacking for vagrants who will pack and ship all day long for a bottle or two or Ripple (that, folks, is how your sports stadiums get cleaned!). Let me put it this way I find it very difficult to believe that a company who lacks the labor initiative to ship things out in smaller portions than they want to lialsoli has the tenacity to scour the globe for any 360 consoles.

Now, if you want to respond in the only way you know how (which is to grouse in some not-so delicately worded internet speech mocking me for having a greivance at all), be my guest. If you want to sit at the grown ups' table and have a conversation, then I'd much prefer that. For starters, I would recommend arguing points based on what I did say, rather than publicly drawing false conclusions to satisfy your "rep" as a mod.[/quote25df72c627]

Have you actually asked Jake specifically for a giftcard instead of a 360? Just curious.

Now, in regards to them pulling homeless people off of the street to package small lots of things to ship.. FreePay has lineverli been set up to ship items directly from their office. They don't keep shipping supplies, they don't have the storage space, they don't have the personnel -- and frankly, I don't want a drunk bum packaging my electronics.

In the past, they've just sent orders directly to a vendor, such as Apple or eCost, and the gifts were shipped from there. What you're asking them to do is temporarily restructure the way they fulfill orders. That would be time-consuming and more expensive.

Another issue with trying to get small bunches of 360's is the fact that they would no doubt have to set up credit accounts with a supplier, with terms. I highly doubt that they can just put even 25 360's on a corporate credit card. Larger businesses like IBM might have that kind of credit line, but smaller, younger business like Freepay would not.

Is it worth setting up credit accounts with all sorts of suppliers you've never worked with, if they can only get 10, 15, or 25 from them, and they plan to go back to a single supplier in a few months? Absolutely not.

I don't know all the exact details, so just like you, I'm speculating. But I honestly think that Freepay is doing all that they can within the bounds of their resources -- remember, no matter how many times a company says the customer is first, a company is in business to STAY in business.[/quote25df72c627]

Why even bother explaining a possible reason why we haven't gotten the 360's. I'm loving all this rampant speculation. Love all the 'intelligent' posts regarding why no 360's have arrived.

I mean how are we suppose to go argue at the 'big man's table' when we're arguing about video games. Wouldn't this argument be more suited for the kiddie table. lol lol

I've never in my life seen so much effort displayed at getting a 360. Damn you camu up with more reasons as to why you should get your xbox 360 then a 12 year old.

I feel bad for Jake also he even answered the question. He really doesn't need this. How many times does he have to say when they get them we will be the first to know?

But please continue arguing. I can promise you though it won't change the fact that we will be informed ONCE freepay recieves them/

mykevermin

17-03-2006 10:16:39

[quote20f9584013="good2speed"]I feel bad for Jake also he even answered the question.[/quote20f9584013]

Show me.

good2speed

17-03-2006 10:18:06

[quote442cd3f9eb="mykevermin"][quote442cd3f9eb="good2speed"]I feel bad for Jake also he even answered the question.[/quote442cd3f9eb]

Show me.[/quote442cd3f9eb]

the money

[quote442cd3f9eb="Jake"][quote442cd3f9eb="bjrock11"]Jake-

What is the word from your suppliers? Do they anticipate receiving some 360s this month?[/quote442cd3f9eb]

They are always on the prowl because there are a number of groups of people who are looking for the same item.

I ask our suppliers everyday.

Believe me, once we get them, you will be the first to hear it.[/quote442cd3f9eb]

Menotti

17-03-2006 10:28:10

I think mykevermin was referring to the unanswered gift card question

J4320

17-03-2006 10:37:38

Yeah why is Jake ignoring the gift card question? I asked it a lot. I just want to know why they won't do it because its seems logical to me.

As I've said, lower shipping cost, satisfied customers, and shows that Freepay is really trying to keep their customers satisfied.

good2speed

17-03-2006 10:39:45

[quoteb25f536743="Menotti"]I think mykevermin was referring to the unanswered gift card question[/quoteb25f536743]

giftcards is a slippery slope.

Basically if they give out gc's as an option instead of shipping out 360's then they will be almost required to give that option to the rest of 360 fullfillments. After that macminis, ipods, shuffles, psp, and pcs will all want payouts instead of the actual product.

Once they get the ball rolling by offering gc's for 360's there will be no way to stop customers from other freepay sites demanding the gc option. Basically there whole business model is irrelevant if it gets to that stage. Their identity is based upon offering a mutlitude of sites that alll offer something different. If the gc option existed then there would be no reason for multiple sites.

They could then shrink their web space to 2-3 pages of products all with the option of accepting a payout or gc as an option. From Freepay's history they have stayed away from giving any kind of payout and rather sending out the gift to the customer's door. Having people take pics of themselves holding up an ipod is good for their buisness.

Cow-Tipper

17-03-2006 10:40:02

or, if they wanted to ship out a large shipment at once, why couldnt freepay accqire small loads and then when they get 100 360s, then they ship.

iamzim

17-03-2006 11:00:42

If i recall, when I got my iPod, i could have opted to get the $250 iTunes giftcard. When I got my ipod, the new ones just came out (i think the 4G, whatever one was the clickwheel and 20gb) and there was the huge supply issue with them too. Shows on the G4 channel tried to prove that it was real, and instead of waiting for the ipod, they just got the giftcard..... So, how would an EB giftcard be much different?
Now, given the opportunity of waiting for a 360 or getting the gift card, i'm waiting for my 360 (because i'm too lazy to go to the store to find one).

watch this video....about 1/3 of rhe way through, he talks about how he got his giftcard..

http//www.g4tv.com/videos/index.html?video_key=8872

mykevermin

17-03-2006 13:02:13

[quote432a6854d4="good2speed"][quote432a6854d4="Menotti"]I think mykevermin was referring to the unanswered gift card question[/quote432a6854d4]

giftcards is a slippery slope.[/quote432a6854d4]

You'll forgive me if I express my disdain for slippery slope arguments, as they involve tremendous leaps in logic (in most cases) and make the assumption that the tiniest action will have unstobbably chaotic results. Yours isn't so much the case, but in general, slippery slopes allow no room for discourse/compromise.

Now, when I say "not so much yours," I mean that I don't have a problem with anyone under FP getting a giftcard. iPod, flatscreen, Alphie, whatever. To me it isn't a matter of the liproductli as much as it is the litimeli. While giftcards shouldn't be an option for starters, I think any person waiting for 4 months or longer ought to be given an option (or less than that even, but it will be 4 months for many of us on Wednesday).

This means that not all of those who completed 360s would get a giftcard as an offer, since not everyone has been waiting for 4 months (and I know that many have been waiting longer, but it's only been available for that long, so I cut off the leftmost estimate). Anyone waiting this long for anything ought to be given an offer, so no, in my mind it really isn't a slippery slope. It's not even something that is necessarily exclusive to 360s, but only circumstantially so (since nobody has waited this long for anything but 360s).

justinag06

17-03-2006 14:31:02

yeah I agree with you I'd like to see a giftcard at this point too.

I don't see much reason why they can't make one exception for the people that have been waiting for the 360 to send it to us. It's obvious most people want one, and think they can find one on their own, so this seems easier for all. Freepay doesn't have to ship anything, so the costs are cheaper.

It would only be a minor hasel to give us the option, and then send them to us.

Lets wait for an offical response from Jake, he sees us asking, no need to continue to badger.

and back in 2004 they ran into a similar snag with the ipods it took almost 4-5 months to get a hold of some, so it's not new, just new to you.

good2speed

17-03-2006 14:52:56

[quote57e8fa7315="mykevermin"]
You'll forgive me if I express my disdain for slippery slope arguments, as they involve tremendous leaps in logic (in most cases) and make the assumption that the tiniest action will have unstobbably chaotic results. Yours isn't so much the case, but in general, slippery slopes allow no room for discourse/compromise.

Now, when I say "not so much yours," I mean that I don't have a problem with anyone under FP getting a giftcard. iPod, flatscreen, Alphie, whatever. To me it isn't a matter of the liproductli as much as it is the litimeli. While giftcards shouldn't be an option for starters, I think any person waiting for 4 months or longer ought to be given an option (or less than that even, but it will be 4 months for many of us on Wednesday).

This means that not all of those who completed 360s would get a giftcard as an offer, since not everyone has been waiting for 4 months (and I know that many have been waiting longer, but it's only been available for that long, so I cut off the leftmost estimate). Anyone waiting this long for anything ought to be given an offer, so no, in my mind it really isn't a slippery slope. It's not even something that is necessarily exclusive to 360s, but only circumstantially so (since nobody has waited this long for anything but 360s).[/quote57e8fa7315]

What your looking for is favoritism. Your logic implies that since you finished first you should be one of the first to recieve the prize or in this case have the option to get the prize through your own means. While I may agree with you in that I was one of the first in line and should get my product, Freepay doesn't really care.

In reality Freepay is treating any processing 360's as the same at this point. They don't recognize who is first they just see a big list of shipments they have to fulfill.

How they handle there entire aquisition and fullfillment of this product is a Freepay concern. Fortunately for us Jake has been here and has given us updates. Unfortunately they haven't had the opportunity to get enough 360's to make a few customers happy. I do believe however that freepay wants people taking pics of their new 360's.

Menotti

17-03-2006 14:57:21

[quote056fb1d76a="good2speed"]
In reality Freepay is treating any processing 360's as the same at this point. They don't recognize who is first they just see a big list of shipments they have to fulfill.
[/quote056fb1d76a]

But if they decided to go the gift card route, they could set a cutoff date (say today, or a month ago, whatever) for people who can opt for the $ instead.

ie. pre March 1, 2006, those who ordered can opt for a GC (they've been waiting a really long time)

Everyone else waits until a new cutoff - time TBD

mykevermin

17-03-2006 15:19:26

[quote6951445234="good2speed"]What your looking for is favoritism. Your logic implies that since you finished first you should be one of the first to recieve the prize or in this case have the option to get the prize through your own means. While I may agree with you in that I was one of the first in line and should get my product, Freepay doesn't really care.

In reality Freepay is treating any processing 360's as the same at this point. They don't recognize who is first they just see a big list of shipments they have to fulfill.

How they handle there entire aquisition and fullfillment of this product is a Freepay concern. Fortunately for us Jake has been here and has given us updates. Unfortunately they haven't had the opportunity to get enough 360's to make a few customers happy. I do believe however that freepay wants people taking pics of their new 360's.[/quote6951445234]

Well, the way their company works is first come, first served, so I don't buy into your favortism argument in the slightest. To the best of my knowledge, is there is a queue of people waiting for a product, those who have waited the longest always get the items, when available, first. I'm not trying to seek favortism, I'm using FreePay's m.o.

When they do ship, you're going to be one of the first to get it, so in reality it's no different, in my view. Select a group of people who have been waiting x number of months or longer, and give them the lioptionli of giftcards. If you select out, you're not taking away the "spot" of someone ahead of you, because they chose to not take the giftcard.

I've stated repeatedly that I personally do not want a giftcard; I'm not interested in paying taxes and/or shipping on a console that I got for free (and doesn't Paypal take out fees for any monies received, making a hypothetical payment of $400 actually closer to $375-$380)? Hell, I wasn't approved until 11/22, so I probably won't even be in the first giant shipment. I just want this shit moving, and I would like to see a reasonable answer as to why giftcards aren't offered. Your previous post (the slippery slope) came the closest, but I've still read nothing from FreePay on it.

thenameisjoe

17-03-2006 15:27:04

It amazes me when people are so laid back about this. "Freepay is going to do what they want so whats the point" or "This is nothing new". That doesnt make it right.

I for one could care less about the xbox/item. It was a xmas gift for a younger nephew. Its the time and handling of the situation that is upsetting. If any other business(and FP is a business) took 4 months to ship your "pre-ordered" item would you react the same way? Then to add fuel to the fire you say you are not going to try an alternative because its not convenient? How lame is that?

If you are fine with people doing business that way then lend me $500. I'll pay you back when I have the chance.

mykevermin

17-03-2006 15:41:30

I understand those with the mindset that say something to the effect of "I'm just sick and tired of being sick and tired." I also think that there are possibly some people who are currently approved (just in the past 4 weeks, give or take) who may be complaining as well.

What I don't get is blind allegiance to anything, be it a business, your spouse, your nation, your favorite console, ad nauseum. The favortism in that regard blinds one's perceptions to the very real and clearly present negative aspects of something; regrettably, some people are so enamored with their positivity of something that they refuse to acknowledge that negative characteristics are always present. That's a bit different, and I can honestly say only a very small handful of people here seem to elicit that kind of attitude (mostly those who pop in here to complain about people complaining).

justinag06

17-03-2006 16:58:13

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Daggoth

17-03-2006 17:12:56

[quotebea7c267d6="J4320"]Yeah why is Jake ignoring the gift card question? I asked it a lot. I just want to know why they won't do it because its seems logical to me.

As I've said, lower shipping cost, satisfied customers, and shows that Freepay is really trying to keep their customers satisfied.[/quotebea7c267d6]

Thats what I'd like to know

JesterxXx

17-03-2006 21:26:00

[quote38dd90e7ec="good2speed"][quote38dd90e7ec="Menotti"]I think mykevermin was referring to the unanswered gift card question[/quote38dd90e7ec]

giftcards is a slippery slope.

Basically if they give out gc's as an option instead of shipping out 360's then they will be almost required to give that option to the rest of 360 fullfillments. After that macminis, ipods, shuffles, psp, and pcs will all want payouts instead of the actual product.

Once they get the ball rolling by offering gc's for 360's there will be no way to stop customers from other freepay sites demanding the gc option. Basically there whole business model is irrelevant if it gets to that stage. Their identity is based upon offering a mutlitude of sites that alll offer something different. If the gc option existed then there would be no reason for multiple sites.

They could then shrink their web space to 2-3 pages of products all with the option of accepting a payout or gc as an option. From Freepay's history they have stayed away from giving any kind of payout and rather sending out the gift to the customer's door. Having people take pics of themselves holding up an iPod is good for their buisness.[/quote38dd90e7ec]I don't agree with the "whole business model" idea you have...Most other sites (networks) that have paypal/gift card options have plenty of other sites. It's not about changing the business model but coming to a point where you just bite the bullet and take care of your customers. A perfect example would be the way Offer Centric handled the situation. No, extra cash wouldn't be expected but it was a surprise and a welcomed alternative...and they already offer a paypal option!

Freepay knows people will just wait because they have done it in the past. Admirably, they have taken care of some of those users when there was a silly amount of wait time (like the original xbox shortage and the extra game the threw in). Although it would be nice if they threw something in this time, especially with the lack of the remotes now, there may be too much of a backorder now to make that possible because of how much extra it would cost now.

I honestly don't think Freepay is trying to piss people off or screw them and I really believe they want them as much as everyone else, I do think they could have done things differently. Smaller shipments would have helped regardless what people say/think. Even if they were only able to get 50 systems since launch that would have been a good chunk of users taken care of.


It's hard to understand why they refuse to offer gift cards to people who want them. They have an excellent source for them if they use the same as they do for the freegiftcard site. Making an exception after making the customers wait for 4 months shouldn't be out of the question. Hell, if any product is so limited that it takes more than 4 months to fulfil they should always keep that option open. I ordered my 360 way back on 5/24/05 so it's coming up on 10 months since I completed the site. Yes of course they couldn't ship before launch but that's still a pretty long wait ;). Even if they only offered gift cards for anyone that ordered before the official launch of the 360, they may be able to clear their backlog some.

Although I don't really want to quote their TOS since the TOS also includes things like "we don't have to actually ship anything if we don't want" and I am sure people will point that out but they do state they will "take measures" to get orders out in a reasonable amount of time...

[quote38dd90e7ec](a) After a user completes the steps required to receive the product, Gratis Internet will take measures to ensure that the user receives orders within a reasonable amount of time. Delivery times vary amongst product suppliers, but most orders are received within 30 days from placing the order. [/quote38dd90e7ec]

...4 months does not seem like a reasonable amount of time. And of course it could be argued that "waiting for big supplies only" isn't "taking measures."

And yes, the next clause in the TOS mentions that they will "ship when available" if backordered but that also kind of contradicts the first.

In the end though, I trust Freepay is actually doing all they can to get the systems. I do think they could have made things easier if they shipped smaller orders earlier and considered offering gift cards.

EasyAs456

18-03-2006 12:37:46

That March is going to turn into April and then into May, my account is due to be closed May 30th, I think they are going to end up screwing us all over. Im already done with it and I have been waiting since May 24th 2005 this is getting a bit rediculous.

aguy

18-03-2006 12:44:37

[quote7688bbea50="EasyAs456"]That March is going to turn into April and then into May, my account is due to be closed May 30th, I think they are going to end up screwing us all over. Im already done with it and I have been waiting since May 24th 2005 this is getting a bit rediculous.[/quote7688bbea50]

90 days for offer completions


DEET DEE DEET

dcrainmaker

18-03-2006 19:54:53

[quote380d38d41a="EasyAs456"]That March is going to turn into April and then into May, my account is due to be closed May 30th, I think they are going to end up screwing us all over. Im already done with it and I have been waiting since May 24th 2005 this is getting a bit rediculous.[/quote380d38d41a]

I thought the new policy didn't affect those who already completed the site. Was I wrong?

CollidgeGraduit

18-03-2006 20:04:00

[quote1883a63dfc="dcrainmaker"][quote1883a63dfc="EasyAs456"]That March is going to turn into April and then into May, my account is due to be closed May 30th, I think they are going to end up screwing us all over. Im already done with it and I have been waiting since May 24th 2005 this is getting a bit rediculous.[/quote1883a63dfc]

I thought the new policy didn't affect those who already completed the site. Was I wrong?[/quote1883a63dfc]

The new policy doesn't affect him in this case, at all, period. 90 days from opening your account to completing your offer and getting your last green.

PoPoJiJo

18-03-2006 20:04:23

for those of you saying that sending gift cards would be a first for freepay and become a "slippery slope effect" thats simply not true. What you say how can he just say that wheres the proof. To those people I say here it is....

When freepay couldnt get their hands on some of the handbags for freehandbags they sent out checks instead BAM

mykevermin

19-03-2006 10:43:25

[quote0977e68560="PoPoJiJo"]for those of you saying that sending gift cards would be a first for freepay and become a "slippery slope effect" thats simply not true. What you say how can he just say that wheres the proof. To those people I say here it is....

When freepay couldnt get their hands on some of the handbags for freehandbags they sent out checks instead BAM[/quote0977e68560]

See, the funny thing about your post is that, by pointing out that FreePay has done it in the past, this evidence can only be used for a slippery slope argument for offering giftcards. Irony abounds!

Instead, I'd argue that the word on the streets is that lieveryli Best Buy will have a guaranteed 30 consoles (minimum) in every store on April 2. I'd prefer to use that as an argument for giftcards (since here is a perfect opportunity for people to get their consoles since they've been left behind by FreePay).

iamzim

20-03-2006 04:17:16

Or......on April 1, Freepay can just send 30 employees to about 30 bestbuys to camp out for the night (i hope they have about 900 employees!!!) and completely buy out the stock! Then they'll be happy because they can get out their bulk shipment, no giftcards, and everyone else will be happy because we'll have our 360s! (though it won't be in "march")

CollidgeGraduit

20-03-2006 04:28:15

[quote6db1a7e761="mykevermin"][quote6db1a7e761="PoPoJiJo"]for those of you saying that sending gift cards would be a first for freepay and become a "slippery slope effect" thats simply not true. What you say how can he just say that wheres the proof. To those people I say here it is....

When freepay couldnt get their hands on some of the handbags for freehandbags they sent out checks instead BAM[/quote6db1a7e761]

See, the funny thing about your post is that, by pointing out that FreePay has done it in the past, this evidence can only be used for a slippery slope argument for offering giftcards. Irony abounds!

Instead, I'd argue that the word on the streets is that lieveryli Best Buy will have a guaranteed 30 consoles (minimum) in every store on April 2. I'd prefer to use that as an argument for giftcards (since here is a perfect opportunity for people to get their consoles since they've been left behind by FreePay).[/quote6db1a7e761]

I'd argue that Peter Moore, from Microsoft, also guaranteed that by Mid-March, you would be able to just walk in to a store and buy a 360. No shortages, no long lines.

drunkmonkey

20-03-2006 07:32:20

"Due to Microsoft's extremely limited supply of the Xbox 360's, we are unable to fulfill our customer's Xbox 360 orders until the March 2006 timeframe."

Tick...tock...tick...tock...

Any progress, or can we assume this will change to "April-May" in the next few days?

egyptianruin

20-03-2006 07:45:08

I would expect it to change soon, I don't think FreePay has gotten anywhere with the 360 nor will they for at least another 30-45 days.

Bebo

20-03-2006 09:58:45

I know it's been mentioned before in this thread, but the amount of interest they should be generating from this shortage is potentially decent. Say they make maybe max of $200 from the user that completes everything, referrals etc., and they don't have to send a 360 yet. They have that money sitting anywhere that gets interest then probably. Take that $200 times just a very meager estimate of 300 unshipped 360 orders and you've got $60,000 sitting in an interest bearing account. Definitely not saying this is why they're not sending, but just thought it was interesting.

mpbollywoodking

20-03-2006 09:59:00

if we are on backordered for the 360, do we contact Jake?

feisar

20-03-2006 10:02:28

[quote53652fb6ed="mpbollywoodking"]if we are on backordered for the 360, do we contact Jake?[/quote53652fb6ed]

Yes, you can. He moved me from Backordered to Processing.

Drummer16161616

20-03-2006 10:42:07

[quote70e6769f69="Bebo"]I know it's been mentioned before in this thread, but the amount of interest they should be generating from this shortage is potentially decent. Say they make maybe max of $200 from the user that completes everything, referrals etc., and they don't have to send a 360 yet. They have that money sitting anywhere that gets interest then probably. Take that $200 times just a very meager estimate of 300 unshipped 360 orders and you've got $60,000 sitting in an interest bearing account. Definitely not saying this is why they're not sending, but just thought it was interesting.[/quote70e6769f69]

Yes, I mentioned this. Although I doubt they have made a lot, they have at least made enough interest to give out remotes for all of us who have been waiting almost a year ;).

bjrock11

20-03-2006 18:07:27

is freepay now offering 400 dollar giftcards at bestbuy for the 360??? someone on a4f posted a screen shot with an offer from freepay for a 400 dollar best buy gift cert. instead of the 360.

doylnea

20-03-2006 18:23:46

I'd guess this is a hoax/fake...

http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=38981&st=820#

But, here's the post where the person was offered a best buy GC to buy their own xbox.

http/" alt=""/img56.imageshack.us/img="56/6263/untitled3ok.jpg[" alt=""/imgfa8ce0bd06]

Brok3n_Sword

20-03-2006 18:43:47

I wonder if there's any validity to it.

aguy

20-03-2006 19:20:50

I like how the H is capitalized on thank you

egyptianruin

20-03-2006 19:42:30

Hmm I wonder what they are going to say when they get a billion tickets asking about gift cards, lol

ilanbg

20-03-2006 19:44:59

That doesn't even look like the customer service jargon freepay reps use.

egyptianruin

20-03-2006 19:48:09

Im not really doubting the validity of it. I dont know if they said that or not but if anyone asks about it let us know.

Truxity.net

20-03-2006 19:55:55

Damn I'm so tempted to put in a ticket for the giftcard. Jake can you give us some insight on this? I'm sure we all want to know if this is true or not. I'll just sell something on ebay for the taxes.

Gigante

20-03-2006 20:01:43

Freepay would have an auto-reply, lol.

egyptianruin

20-03-2006 20:01:57

I put in a ticket asking we will see what they say...

[ife384e46c1]3/20/2006 105136 PM
egyptianruin(a)gmail.com wrote
Just a quick question, are you offering gift cards in place of the 360. I don't want to do it because I am willing to wait I just want to know if there is another option available in case because it's a present for my fiance for our wedding on May 6, 2006. Thanks so much![/ife384e46c1]

I doubt they will offer it, and if they did I most likely won't take it unless it gets super close to my wedding date.

drunkmonkey

20-03-2006 20:12:09

edit seems real

mykevermin

20-03-2006 20:34:26

[quotebefcf47210="egyptianruin"]I put in a ticket asking we will see what they say...

[ibefcf47210]3/20/2006 105136 PM
egyptianruin(a)gmail.com wrote
Just a quick question, are you offering gift cards in place of the 360. I don't want to do it because I am willing to wait I just want to know if there is another option available in case because it's a present for my fiance for our wedding on May 6, 2006. Thanks so much![/ibefcf47210]

I doubt they will offer it, and if they did I most likely won't take it unless it gets super close to my wedding date.[/quotebefcf47210]

I want to submit a support ticket telling them I have terminal cancer and only have six months to live. lol

As for that fake screenshot, at least they were smart enough to include the oft-used grammatical error in 'THank you.'

ucool22

20-03-2006 22:21:12

haha the 400 doesnt even cover the tax and everythign for the premium version, i doubt this is true. and GOOD NEWS did u guys know the first xbox360 has been hacked?? maybe jsut a month or 2 from now we can play burned games!
http//youtube.com/watch?v=XbXa_Dvlr9Q&search=360%20hacked

mykevermin

21-03-2006 06:40:25

[quotec0be07584f="ucool22"]haha the 400 doesnt even cover the tax and everythign for the premium version, i doubt this is true. and GOOD NEWS did u guys know the first xbox360 has been hacked?? maybe jsut a month or 2 from now we can play burned games!
http//youtube.com/watch?v=XbXa_Dvlr9Q&search=360%20hacked[/quotec0be07584f]

Piracy! That's AWESOME! roll

egyptianruin

21-03-2006 06:45:25

[quoteae60421c8a="mykevermin"][quoteae60421c8a="egyptianruin"]I put in a ticket asking we will see what they say...

[iae60421c8a]3/20/2006 105136 PM
egyptianruin(a)gmail.com wrote
Just a quick question, are you offering gift cards in place of the 360. I don't want to do it because I am willing to wait I just want to know if there is another option available in case because it's a present for my fiance for our wedding on May 6, 2006. Thanks so much![/iae60421c8a]

I doubt they will offer it, and if they did I most likely won't take it unless it gets super close to my wedding date.[/quoteae60421c8a]

I want to submit a support ticket telling them I have terminal cancer and only have six months to live. lol

As for that fake screenshot, at least they were smart enough to include the oft-used grammatical error in 'THank you.'[/quoteae60421c8a]
LOL Well it's the truth it's his present! lol

Cow-Tipper

21-03-2006 06:59:49

good news maybe????
http//www.engadget.com/2006/03/21/microsoft-announces-xbox-360-supply-surge/

egyptianruin

21-03-2006 07:37:00

Well I got my response about a gift card

3/21/2006 103621 AM
customer service wrote
We are willing to replace the xbox with a 400 dollar bestbuy giftfcard. If you are interested please email us back.

Heres a screenshot for thos who don't believe me

[imgbda13e6c4d]http/" alt=""/img47.imageshack.us/img="47/2905/xboxgc3vz.th.jpg[" alt=""/imgbda13e6c4d][=http//img="47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xboxgc3vz.jpg][imgbda13e6c4d]http/" alt=""/img47.imageshack.us/img="47/2905/xboxgc3vz.th.jpg[" alt=""/imgbda13e6c4d]

CollidgeGraduit

21-03-2006 07:39:42

Ask and ye shall receive

Cow-Tipper

21-03-2006 07:42:35

[quote7a9ec3cdd8="egyptianruin"]Well I got my response about a gift card

3/21/2006 103621 AM
customer service wrote
We are willing to replace the xbox with a 400 dollar bestbuy giftfcard. If you are interested please email us back.

Heres a screenshot for thos who don't believe me

[img7a9ec3cdd8]http/" alt=""/img47.imageshack.us/img="47/2905/xboxgc3vz.th.jpg[" alt=""/img7a9ec3cdd8][=http//img="47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xboxgc3vz.jpg][img7a9ec3cdd8]http/" alt=""/img47.imageshack.us/img="47/2905/xboxgc3vz.th.jpg[" alt=""/img7a9ec3cdd8][/quote7a9ec3cdd8]

If you do that you are letting them get off easy, no tax added and no remote that we should have gotten

egyptianruin

21-03-2006 07:48:12

Well here it's only 5% sales tax but I havent seen one Best Buy have the 360 since they went on sale - However I did see some at Target. I am willing to wait it out, I don't mind the wait but my fiance isn't so patient.

CollidgeGraduit

21-03-2006 07:50:14

[quote33a489adfd="Cow-Tipper"][quote33a489adfd="egyptianruin"]Well I got my response about a gift card

3/21/2006 103621 AM
customer service wrote
We are willing to replace the xbox with a 400 dollar bestbuy giftfcard. If you are interested please email us back.

Heres a screenshot for thos who don't believe me

[img33a489adfd]http/" alt=""/img47.imageshack.us/img="47/2905/xboxgc3vz.th.jpg[" alt=""/img33a489adfd][=http//img="47.imageshack.us/my.php?image=xboxgc3vz.jpg][img33a489adfd]http/" alt=""/img47.imageshack.us/img="47/2905/xboxgc3vz.th.jpg[" alt=""/img33a489adfd][/quote33a489adfd]

If you do that you are letting them get off easy, no tax added and no remote that we should have gotten[/quote33a489adfd]

lishrugli $20 of tax, for the luxury of being able to go out and purchase it yourself.

Your point about the remote is moot -- if you go to Best Buy and ask for a premium system, you won't get a remote either.

Cow-Tipper

21-03-2006 07:51:41

7% here but i still think we should get enough for a free year of live or a remote or something extra since we never got what we were promised

Edit about the post above The remote was promised to the people who ordered before the end of december thats what i meant

iamzim

21-03-2006 08:07:13

as much as I want the remote....wasn't the remote that it came with sort of lacking in function?? I'd prefer to get one of the good media center (or maybe that nice logitech) remotes. about the giftcard..as I said previously, I'm going to just wait for my system.

Truxity.net

21-03-2006 08:25:13

Wow now I have to decide between getting my 360 quick

GiftCard
Pros Possible have it soon
Cons No extra for tax included, Go take a bus in the cold weather to get it, Hope Best Buy has one in stock.

Wait
Pros No taking bus or cold weather, No store searching, No paying for Taxes
Cons No Idea when the hell I will recieve it.

How much do you think I could get for the GiftCard off ebay?

mykevermin

21-03-2006 08:32:15

[quote56aeeb51b8="Cow-Tipper"]7% here but i still think we should get enough for a free year of live or a remote or something extra since we never got what we were promised

Edit about the post above The remote was promised to the people who ordered before the end of december thats what i meant[/quote56aeeb51b8]

Sales tax wouldn't be that high if your folks weren't so stupid as to vote to pay to build two professional sports stadiums. lol

At anyrate, it's good to see that progress is being made in this area. I don't agree with $400, and it certainly indicates that those who wait for the systems won't get a damn thing extra (not a remote, not a controller, perhaps only a "go to hell ya greedy bastid!"). But, they've decided to start paying out, and I think the circumstances of the 360 scenario preclude this becoming a slippery slope of any sort.

Now, the lot of you start taking giftcards so I can get my console quicker! ;)

crescendo

21-03-2006 08:33:29

[quote6534815fa3="syk_skillz"]Wow now I have to decide between getting my 360 quick

GiftCard
Pros Possible have it soon
Cons No extra for tax included, Go take a bus in the cold weather to get it, Hope Best Buy has one in stock.

Wait
Pros No taking bus or cold weather, No store searching, No paying for Taxes
Cons No Idea when the hell I will recieve it.

How much do you think I could get for the GiftCard off ebay?[/quote6534815fa3]

Just did a search on ebay for the recently completed listings for $400 gift cards. Looks like you could get $340-$375 for it.

mykevermin

21-03-2006 08:36:05

[quote9650236499="syk_skillz"]Wow now I have to decide between getting my 360 quick

GiftCard
Pros Possible have it soon
Cons No extra for tax included, Go take a bus in the cold weather to get it, Hope Best Buy has one in stock.[/quote9650236499]

You're gonna get on a bus, in Flint Fucking Michigan, with a 360? Add in the cost of a pair of knuckles, daddy-o.

[quote9650236499]Wait
Pros No taking bus or cold weather, No store searching, No paying for Taxes
Cons No Idea when the hell I will recieve it.

How much do you think I could get for the GiftCard off ebay?[/quote9650236499]

My guess would be less than $400. ;)

CollidgeGraduit

21-03-2006 08:44:04

[quotec0f064869c="mykevermin"][quotec0f064869c="syk_skillz"]Wow now I have to decide between getting my 360 quick

GiftCard
Pros Possible have it soon
Cons No extra for tax included, Go take a bus in the cold weather to get it, Hope Best Buy has one in stock.[/quotec0f064869c]

You're gonna get on a bus, in Flint Fucking Michigan, with a 360? Add in the cost of a pair of knuckles, daddy-o.[/quotec0f064869c]

LOL. Nice

Truxity.net

21-03-2006 09:09:19

[quoted159409e9a="mykevermin"][quoted159409e9a="syk_skillz"]Wow now I have to decide between getting my 360 quick

GiftCard
Pros Possible have it soon
Cons No extra for tax included, Go take a bus in the cold weather to get it, Hope Best Buy has one in stock.[/quoted159409e9a]

You're gonna get on a bus, in Flint Fucking Michigan, with a 360? Add in the cost of a pair of knuckles, daddy-o.
[/quoted159409e9a]

LOL believe me I'm always strapped. Besides I would go while everyones at school/work and would have it packed away in a tuffle bag to hide it. I ain't that fucking stupid.

egyptianruin

21-03-2006 09:14:03

LOL it's like me getting on a bus with a 360 in Park Heights in Baltimore City eh? I didn't know Flint, Michigan was that bad.

Truxity.net

21-03-2006 09:44:52

[quote4f98f9f9ee="egyptianruin"]LOL it's like me getting on a bus with a 360 in Park Heights in Baltimore City eh? [b4f98f9f9ee]I didn't know Flint, Michigan was that bad.[/b4f98f9f9ee][/quote4f98f9f9ee]

Thats the understatement of the year lol

Peinecone

21-03-2006 10:25:32

Here is a story saying Microsoft will be having a huge surge of 360's starting next week. Hopefully freepay gets some cause i need the money after i sell mine.

http//news.teamxbox.com/xbox/10519/Microsoft-Announces-Xbox-360-Inventory-Surge-and-Spring-Games-Lineup/

egyptianruin

21-03-2006 11:31:04

Someone at A4F also posted a screenshot that CS said the $400 GC is on a case by case basis which kinda proves my theory they felt that I needed it by my wedding date because it's going to my husband to be.

drunkmonkey

21-03-2006 11:32:13

[quote31ab0d5a64="egyptianruin"]Someone at A4F also posted a screenshot that CS said the $400 GC is on a case by case basis which kinda proves my theory they felt that I needed it by my wedding date because it's going to my husband to be.[/quote31ab0d5a64]

I was just about to post my response from CS

"We are still fulfilling xbox 360s and have been waiting for Microsoft to release another batch of xboxes now. If any customers want a gift card instead of the xbox 360, we will consider the request case-by-case. Thank you for contacting us."

egyptianruin

21-03-2006 11:33:37

Im waiting on word now from my fiance to see whether thats what he wants or not, we will see.

punjabGTRR34

21-03-2006 11:40:36

YES!! I'm getting a giftcertificate!!! Here is what they said


3/21/2006 23805 PM
customer service wrote

We have forwarded your requisition to our fulfillment department already. They will fulfill a $400 gift card to you instead of the xbox 360. The gift card will be sent directly to your email address from giftcertificates.com within this week. Please keep checking your mailbox or junk mail for the gift card email. Thank you for contacting us. We are sincerely sorry for any inconvenience that this may cause.

justinag06

21-03-2006 11:45:12

I got the same message too

this is fine by me, now I can go buy one myself next week

kposse77

21-03-2006 11:56:08

If they're sending it through giftcertificate.com, are you locked into Best Buy?

punjabGTRR34

21-03-2006 11:58:32

"locked into Best Buy?"?

What do you mean?

egyptianruin

21-03-2006 12:05:46

[quote18c6459696="punjabGTRR34"]"locked into Best Buy?"?

What do you mean?[/quote18c6459696]

Because they offer more than just BBY on giftcertificates.com. I would prefer a Target Gift Card cause I know when they have them, Best Buy in the White Marsh area of Baltimore (the closest one) is INSANE. I will never get one there, most likely have to drive to a bunch of different ones.


But this is what my fiance said

[i18c6459696]I'm pretty confident that we could get a 360 sooner if we took the $ and applied it. What is the tax on that shizzle, though?

What are your thoughts on the matter? I rely on your knowledge and instincts. (Not sarcastic; I know you will think it is.)[/i18c6459696]

punjabGTRR34

21-03-2006 12:07:23

Hmm, i'm not sure what store I'm going to get GiftCerts for.

kposse77

21-03-2006 12:37:52

[quote2a2cb7957b="punjabGTRR34"]"locked into Best Buy?"?

What do you mean?[/quote2a2cb7957b]

One of the previous posts in this thread had a reply from FreePay CS that stated Best Buy specifically.

punjabGTRR34

21-03-2006 12:39:26

Hmm well they told me GiftCertificates.com so hopefully its that one. -D

egyptianruin

21-03-2006 12:40:19

Yeah, but if they are sending super certificates won't you be able to choose. I will go with Best Buy if that's what I am supposed to use but Target would be nicer...

punjabGTRR34

21-03-2006 12:41:10

Yeah theres a choice then.

VGM

21-03-2006 12:54:06

if they cover 450 or even a bit less just to cover tax and stuff...I'm totally down for this.

Wolfeman

21-03-2006 12:55:27

You guys cry for months about wanting a giftcard instead now you want more? I guess beggers can be choosers shrug

drunkmonkey

21-03-2006 12:58:53

[quotedd11bb72e4="Wolfeman"]You guys cry for months about wanting a giftcard instead now you want more? I guess beggers can be choosers shrug[/quotedd11bb72e4]

Well, considering the GC doesn't cover the cost of a 360, yes.

Why do you still read this thread? You only come in to whine about the whiners. Are you just a sucker for irony?

VGM

21-03-2006 12:58:56

[quotea60083c2af="Wolfeman"]You guys cry for months about wanting a giftcard instead now you want more? I guess beggers can be choosers shrug[/quotea60083c2af]

Other sites gave a 475 dollar gc...sad.

Either way, the wait can't be much longer, as xbox 360 production has trippled this week and every store should be in stock by this/next week. I'm still assuming if we wait, freepay will compensate us somehow with a controller, game, gc, or something because of the wait.

Wolfeman

21-03-2006 13:04:29

[quote01f2a6e83e="drunkmonkey"][quote01f2a6e83e="Wolfeman"]You guys cry for months about wanting a giftcard instead now you want more? I guess beggers can be choosers shrug[/quote01f2a6e83e]

Well, considering the GC doesn't cover the cost of a 360, yes.

Why do you still read this thread? You only come in to whine about the whiners. Are you just a sucker for irony?[/quote01f2a6e83e]
I still read it cause I love to laugh at you fools...

aguy

21-03-2006 13:07:47

[quote12bcc8304d="Wolfeman"][quote12bcc8304d="drunkmonkey"][quote12bcc8304d="Wolfeman"]You guys cry for months about wanting a giftcard instead now you want more? I guess beggers can be choosers shrug[/quote12bcc8304d]

Well, considering the GC doesn't cover the cost of a 360, yes.

Why do you still read this thread? You only come in to whine about the whiners. Are you just a sucker for irony?[/quote12bcc8304d]
I still read it cause I love to laugh at you fools...[/quote12bcc8304d]

same

but i cant decide if i should get a 400 card and buy something else

HMMMMM

Wolfeman

21-03-2006 13:09:28

I'm taking the $400 )

thenameisjoe

21-03-2006 13:11:04

[quote5fe7d15ea0="Wolfeman"][quote5fe7d15ea0="drunkmonkey"][quote5fe7d15ea0="Wolfeman"]You guys cry for months about wanting a giftcard instead now you want more? I guess beggers can be choosers shrug[/quote5fe7d15ea0]

Well, considering the GC doesn't cover the cost of a 360, yes.

Why do you still read this thread? You only come in to whine about the whiners. Are you just a sucker for irony?[/quote5fe7d15ea0]
I still read it cause I love to laugh at you fools...[/quote5fe7d15ea0]

Hey lemme ask, is being an arrogant prick a moderator requirement or is a benefit?

Wolfeman

21-03-2006 13:14:04

[quoteb4a2717c68="thenameisjoe"][quoteb4a2717c68="Wolfeman"][quoteb4a2717c68="drunkmonkey"][quoteb4a2717c68="Wolfeman"]You guys cry for months about wanting a giftcard instead now you want more? I guess beggers can be choosers shrug[/quoteb4a2717c68]

Well, considering the GC doesn't cover the cost of a 360, yes.

Why do you still read this thread? You only come in to whine about the whiners. Are you just a sucker for irony?[/quoteb4a2717c68]
I still read it cause I love to laugh at you fools...[/quoteb4a2717c68]

Hey lemme ask, is being an arrogant prick a moderator requirement or is a benefit?[/quoteb4a2717c68]
How am I being arrogant? He asked why I still read this thread and thats why. You guys cried for months about GCs and now that they seem to be available, it still isn't good enough. I just think its funny.

drunkmonkey

21-03-2006 13:16:17

[quote73555decfa="Wolfeman"][quote73555decfa="drunkmonkey"][quote73555decfa="Wolfeman"]You guys cry for months about wanting a giftcard instead now you want more? I guess beggers can be choosers shrug[/quote73555decfa]

Well, considering the GC doesn't cover the cost of a 360, yes.

Why do you still read this thread? You only come in to whine about the whiners. Are you just a sucker for irony?[/quote73555decfa]
I still read it cause I love to laugh at you fools...[/quote73555decfa]

As I thought, sucker for irony. Well, I hope we're keeping you entertained. I know the converse is true. lol

Menotti

21-03-2006 13:20:14

Unless they want to offer me an additional 8.75% (NY state + local rates), I'm going to have to wait.

$400 after all this time - which doesn't even cover taxes - is not really acceptable in my book. When you have a big customer service problem, you're supposed to compensate your customers some how. FP is not doing this. The least they can do is cover the tax.

CougarKid

21-03-2006 13:23:30

Why not just wait a little longer? I'm not looking to pay more cash for something free.

I'll wait it out. Freepay will come through sooner or later.

Cow-Tipper

21-03-2006 13:40:58

[quote8227b1ac53="mykevermin"][quote8227b1ac53="Cow-Tipper"]7% here but i still think we should get enough for a free year of live or a remote or something extra since we never got what we were promised

Edit about the post above The remote was promised to the people who ordered before the end of december thats what i meant[/quote8227b1ac53]

Sales tax wouldn't be that high if your folks weren't so stupid as to vote to pay to build two professional sports stadiums. lol

At anyrate, it's good to see that progress is being made in this area. I don't agree with $400, and it certainly indicates that those who wait for the systems won't get a damn thing extra (not a remote, not a controller, perhaps only a "go to hell ya greedy bastid!"). But, they've decided to start paying out, and I think the circumstances of the 360 scenario preclude this becoming a slippery slope of any sort.

Now, the lot of you start taking giftcards so I can get my console quicker! ;)[/quote8227b1ac53]

Hey the stadiums are hella nice though ) and i would go for the giftcard becasue i have been waiting to play some games since christmas

And it looks like everyone is lying, i just cheked my response from the ticket and they told me this
[quote8227b1ac53]
3/21/2006 12819 PM
customer service wrote

We do not have the policy to offer the giftcard instead of the 360 xbox. Thank you for contacting us.
3/21/2006 104551 AM
customer service wrote

We have received your inquiry and will respond via a reply post in your account as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience.
3/21/2006 104550 AM
I wrote

people have been saying that you are offering giftcards instead of a 360 shipped. Is that true?
[/quote8227b1ac53]

punjabGTRR34

21-03-2006 13:48:58

I'm not lying. I was told I would be getting a giftcertificate for GiftCertificates.com

Menotti

21-03-2006 13:50:08

Being that there is an upcoming supply boom, I hope that Jake gets the word from his higher-ups to at least give us some info. As of now - correct me if I'm wrong, but this is from what everything I read - they do not even have a supplier.

justinag06

21-03-2006 14:21:21

seriously we are getting a free $400 GC

or a 360

just shut up take your money and be quiet, or wait for the next year when freepay can finally get the 360's

we no longer have any reason to complain.

mykevermin

21-03-2006 14:38:59

[quote7eb50d90ab="Cow-Tipper"]And it looks like everyone is lying, i just cheked my response from the ticket and they told me this [/quote7eb50d90ab]

My first guess would be that giftcards are being made available to certain people who have been processing since a certain date. To find out if that's true, then, we'd have to list people's processing dates and whether they were offered or denied a certificate.

Menotti

21-03-2006 14:40:11

[quote9fcfd0c17a="justinag06"]seriously we are getting a free $400 GC

or a 360

just shut up take your money and be quiet, or wait for the next year when freepay can finally get the 360's

we no longer have any reason to complain.[/quote9fcfd0c17a]

I still think not getting $ to cover tax is enough to be upset about after the debacle that occured.

CollidgeGraduit

21-03-2006 14:41:24

[quotee77bb008f1="thenameisjoe"][quotee77bb008f1="Wolfeman"][quotee77bb008f1="drunkmonkey"][quotee77bb008f1="Wolfeman"]You guys cry for months about wanting a giftcard instead now you want more? I guess beggers can be choosers shrug[/quotee77bb008f1]

Well, considering the GC doesn't cover the cost of a 360, yes.

Why do you still read this thread? You only come in to whine about the whiners. Are you just a sucker for irony?[/quotee77bb008f1]
I still read it cause I love to laugh at you fools...[/quotee77bb008f1]

Hey lemme ask, is being an arrogant prick a moderator requirement or is a benefit?[/quotee77bb008f1]

To answer your question -- it's not a requirement, it is a benefit.

ilanbg

21-03-2006 14:41:58

Do the gift cards have to be used online? If it's being emailed, can I print it out and bring it to a store?

CollidgeGraduit

21-03-2006 14:43:27

[quote0199f4d74c="ilanbg"]Do the gift cards have to be used online? If it's being emailed, can I print it out and bring it to a store?[/quote0199f4d74c]

You redeem them from Giftcertificates.com online, and they ship you the physical gift cards. If it's under $200, free USPS shipping. If it's over $200, free FedEx 2-Day shipping.

mykevermin

21-03-2006 15:00:09

[quotedf6cea40a6="CollidgeGraduit"][quotedf6cea40a6="ilanbg"]Do the gift cards have to be used online? If it's being emailed, can I print it out and bring it to a store?[/quotedf6cea40a6]

You redeem them from Giftcertificates.com online, and they ship you the physical gift cards. If it's under $200, free USPS shipping. If it's over $200, free FedEx 2-Day shipping.[/quotedf6cea40a6]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there some sort of wonky "service fee" thing from one (or both) of the gift certificates websites? That way, when you redeem it, it is less than the actual value of the claim (in this case $400)?

Just to avoid being pasted as a grouser, I'm not interested in a gift card. If, after redemption, you're talking about a value of $375 or so, then people ought to be informed of that before accepting the offer or not.

CollidgeGraduit

21-03-2006 15:32:57

[quote92101c464a="mykevermin"][quote92101c464a="CollidgeGraduit"][quote92101c464a="ilanbg"]Do the gift cards have to be used online? If it's being emailed, can I print it out and bring it to a store?[/quote92101c464a]

You redeem them from Giftcertificates.com online, and they ship you the physical gift cards. If it's under $200, free USPS shipping. If it's over $200, free FedEx 2-Day shipping.[/quote92101c464a]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there some sort of wonky "service fee" thing from one (or both) of the gift certificates websites? That way, when you redeem it, it is less than the actual value of the claim (in this case $400)?

Just to avoid being pasted as a grouser, I'm not interested in a gift card. If, after redemption, you're talking about a value of $375 or so, then people ought to be informed of that before accepting the offer or not.[/quote92101c464a]

I didn't have any problems with service fees. I've read where a couple other people did -- but they contacted customer service at GC.com and they took care of it.

justinag06

21-03-2006 15:35:40

best buy isnt availible on there right now.

also how long did it take you to recieve your gc in the email?

they told me about a week.

did it go to your junk mail?

and who was the sender?

if anyone has an answer to any of these thanks.

gregcool

21-03-2006 16:09:46

http//apnews.myway.com/article/20060321/D8GG7AI00.html

mykevermin

21-03-2006 18:46:03

[quote6811697d85="CollidgeGraduit"][quote6811697d85="mykevermin"][quote6811697d85="CollidgeGraduit"][quote6811697d85="ilanbg"]Do the gift cards have to be used online? If it's being emailed, can I print it out and bring it to a store?[/quote6811697d85]

You redeem them from Giftcertificates.com online, and they ship you the physical gift cards. If it's under $200, free USPS shipping. If it's over $200, free FedEx 2-Day shipping.[/quote6811697d85]

Correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't there some sort of wonky "service fee" thing from one (or both) of the gift certificates websites? That way, when you redeem it, it is less than the actual value of the claim (in this case $400)?

Just to avoid being pasted as a grouser, I'm not interested in a gift card. If, after redemption, you're talking about a value of $375 or so, then people ought to be informed of that before accepting the offer or not.[/quote6811697d85]

I didn't have any problems with service fees. I've read where a couple other people did -- but they contacted customer service at GC.com and they took care of it.[/quote6811697d85]

Well, that's kosher for those who want the GC then. Grab them up so's FP can send me my 360! ;)

h3x

21-03-2006 20:43:11

Since there is no Best Buy's anywhere near my location (Alaska), I'm not sure whether I should take the $400 GC and wait until a supply comes up online or suck it up... Regardless, I encourage those taking the $400 GC opt-in

JesusNerd

21-03-2006 23:29:45

For those of you upset about the GC amount, nobody is forcing you to accept this option. You're free to keep waiting.

ucool22

22-03-2006 06:05:59

where did u guys get the GC news? do they email u or something?

Menotti

22-03-2006 08:00:48

I love how the status page is still broken. You'd think there would be some progress by this morning.

Truxity.net

22-03-2006 08:25:08

Status Page is fixed now.

CollidgeGraduit

22-03-2006 08:38:04

Good, menotti can find another subject to make snide comments about.

Menotti

22-03-2006 08:54:05

[quote8421f1199d="CollidgeGraduit"]Good, menotti can find another subject to make snide comments about.[/quote8421f1199d]

My foot in my mouth was enough, don't you think? Don't think it was necessary to make that comment. You're acting as if I don't have a reason to be cynical of FP at this moment.

jsw138

22-03-2006 10:10:37

Just came back from a Walmart right outside NE Philly and they had about 8 premium Xbox360s in stock. I guess they are finally starting to become easily available. Hopefully Freepay can get their hands on some soon and make alot of people happy.

Menotti

22-03-2006 12:17:14

[quotebca5147866="jsw138"]Just came back from a Walmart right outside NE Philly and they had about 8 premium Xbox360s in stock. I guess they are finally starting to become easily available. Hopefully Freepay can get their hands on some soon and make alot of people happy.[/quotebca5147866]

Crossing my fingers for that. Hoping for an update from them!

VGM

22-03-2006 13:51:16

yeah, I'm kind of waiting for an update before I take the gift card option...but I wouldn't mind the xbox 360 now )

Cow-Tipper

23-03-2006 10:37:05

has anyone gotten the giftcard yet? like the email from supercertificates?

mykevermin

23-03-2006 11:03:24

[quote18b5d60ded="Cow-Tipper"]has anyone gotten the giftcard yet? like the email from supercertificates?[/quote18b5d60ded]

Probably not this fast, but here's something to make you GC'ers weep.

http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=999947300050001&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat66900050001&id=pcmprd47500050001

Available at Best Buy online, no bundles, no bullshit, just a $400 console that will ship from their warehouse in 1 business day or less. While this is clearly an anomaly (or else it wouldn't even bear mentioning), I expect these to be sold out relatively quickly, but for the console being instock online and instore to become far more commonplace (as per Peter Moore's "we're making more, we swear!" comment this week).

CougarKid

23-03-2006 11:04:40

Well since they got some hopefully Freepays vendor will get some.

mykevermin

23-03-2006 11:07:08

That logic hasn't panned out in the past four months, CK. I'll still say late April before they ship any systems. At least April 20th.

Truxity.net

23-03-2006 11:11:56

hmmm if it stays like that for a few weeks with no word from freepay I may have to order a GC and order it in thier online store. Damn I wish I had $414.98 in my paypal account right now so I could order it with my paypal card. I would just sell the one freepay sends me then.

punjabGTRR34

23-03-2006 11:28:45

I'm STV. -D. Its for the G/C

igneous

23-03-2006 11:30:08

Me too! )

Cow-Tipper

23-03-2006 11:38:17

i just asked for the giftcard, waiting for them to reply

iamzim

23-03-2006 11:45:34

I hope Freepay takes as many systems as their vendor can get, instead of turning some down because it's not as many as they want! It would appear that what Peter Moore said is true. I'm waiting to hear some comment from Jake as to what FP is doing, and what the status of their vendor(s) is.

justinag06

23-03-2006 11:57:18

[quote0574911848="mykevermin"][quote0574911848="Cow-Tipper"]has anyone gotten the giftcard yet? like the email from supercertificates?[/quote0574911848]

Probably not this fast, but here's something to make you GC'ers weep.

http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=999947300050001&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat66900050001&id=pcmprd47500050001

Available at Best Buy online, no bundles, no bullshit, just a $400 console that will ship from their warehouse in 1 business day or less. While this is clearly an anomaly (or else it wouldn't even bear mentioning), I expect these to be sold out relatively quickly, but for the console being instock online and instore to become far more commonplace (as per Peter Moore's "we're making more, we swear!" comment this week).[/quote0574911848]

why would this make us weep?

I hope all ya'll get your 360's faster and easier because so many of us took this option

bonehead848

23-03-2006 12:02:32

STV!!!! D

PoPoJiJo

23-03-2006 12:34:46

[quote93f07b5d8e="bonehead848"]STV!!!! D[/quote93f07b5d8e] ? for an xbox or for a gc or a joke

Wolfeman

23-03-2006 12:35:39

STV for a giftcard...

PoPoJiJo

23-03-2006 12:37:40

well congrats to all those who took the gc option and are stv D

punjabGTRR34

23-03-2006 13:55:59

I got my GiftCard -D

Wolfeman

23-03-2006 14:01:11

So did I...

ilanbg

23-03-2006 14:15:00

I requested a GC in the support and got an automated generic response. Ugh.

igneous

23-03-2006 14:15:03

Got mine too ) $400 bucks to spend on anything I want )

Drummer16161616

23-03-2006 14:16:21

Wait, how did you guys use it? Did you all find best buy?

drunkmonkey

23-03-2006 14:26:16

[quoted2887bcb2c="ilanbg"]I requested a GC in the support and got an automated generic response. Ugh.[/quoted2887bcb2c]

PM Jake.

champ2131

23-03-2006 15:00:48

My question is can you use the gift certificate on bestbuy.com?

Wolfeman

23-03-2006 15:10:35

YES!

Drummer16161616

23-03-2006 15:24:26

[quote69f4de21a3="Wolfeman"]YES![/quote69f4de21a3]

You mean "NOT YET!", right?

igneous

23-03-2006 15:28:47

Yeah, not yet

Wolfeman

23-03-2006 15:54:40

[quote5a38d1e7d3="Drummer16161616"][quote5a38d1e7d3="Wolfeman"]YES![/quote5a38d1e7d3]

You mean "NOT YET!", right?[/quote5a38d1e7d3]
Yeah but they can be used there, its just an error...

champ2131

23-03-2006 18:39:40

You guys are confusing me....yes or no to bestbuy.com? Thanks....

bonehead848

23-03-2006 18:42:41

Just read the thread, jake is going to fix it tomorrow and we will have best buy

CollidgeGraduit

23-03-2006 19:00:06

HAY SO WAT IS GOIN ON R WE GUNA HAVE BEST BUY KARDZ OR WAT

egyptianruin

23-03-2006 19:17:27

NO YERZ GOING TO GET GIFTCARD TO VICTORIAS SECRET

CollidgeGraduit

23-03-2006 19:19:02

[quote5b990dc257="egyptianruin"]NO YERZ GOING TO GET GIFTCARD TO VICTORIAS SECRET[/quote5b990dc257]

O DAMZ O WELL ILL GIT SOME NICE PERFYUM OR SUMTIM LOL

egyptianruin

23-03-2006 19:22:48

MAYBES 4 $400 DOLLAZ YOU CAN GET TYRA IN A BIKINI P

punjabGTRR34

23-03-2006 19:33:50

If I want TigerDirect can I redeem it now? I found some good parts i could use for my computer.

i blame history

23-03-2006 20:00:19

[quoteae874d79cc="champ2131"]You guys are confusing me....yes or no to bestbuy.com? Thanks....[/quoteae874d79cc]

in theory, yes. until jake/freepay smacks a few people, no.

this happened with the freepay giftcards site. freepay paid for EVERY person who completed the site to be able to redeem the gift certificate at premium stores (such as best buy). if the person/group you get the gift certificate from does not pay this extra fee, you cannot use it at the premium places. but yes, freepay paid so they could be used there. however, i guess supercertificate or whatever the place is has a nice habit of claiming that nobody has paid extra and you do not have access to the premium stores.

as jake said, he/freepay will see to it that everyone who gets the gift certificate can use it to the full potential that freepay paid for.

J4320

23-03-2006 20:06:33

Okay so wait a sec.... I don't have time to read through all of this and I'm at a hotel in Florida for Spring Break...

So are people PMing Jake and getting giftcards or not yet or what?

Wolfeman

23-03-2006 20:17:27

[quotec6d12ad2cb="punjabGTRR34"]If I want TigerDirect can I redeem it now? I found some good parts i could use for my computer.[/quotec6d12ad2cb]
Yes. Only wait if you want BestBuy...

igneous

23-03-2006 20:25:38

[quotea407e7eabd="J4320"]Okay so wait a sec.... I don't have time to read through all of this and I'm at a hotel in Florida for Spring Break...

So are people PMing Jake and getting giftcards or not yet or what?[/quotea407e7eabd]
No, you go to Help on the xbox 360 page and request it through them.

J4320

23-03-2006 20:28:02

Oh okay. Thanks for the help igneous. ;)

So I sent them a customer service thing through their site requesting one.

So what now? Should I just wait to get something in my email? Have people been getting them through email? Are they codes that you can print out because it'd be cool if I could just go to a Bestbuy while I'm here in Florida and get one.

igneous

23-03-2006 20:39:44

No, they email you a link and you get a supercertificate, which can be used at a ton of different retailers.

egyptianruin

23-03-2006 21:27:27

Okay I don't know if this was asked, and if so I apologize but can we use the gift cards certifcate things instore. I really don't want to purchase anything online seeing that I will be gone for the next month or so, and most online retailers are sold out of the 360. Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated.

nickman

23-03-2006 23:13:10

[quote9a51a8290d="egyptianruin"]Okay I don't know if this was asked, and if so I apologize but can we use the gift cards certifcate things instore. I really don't want to purchase anything online seeing that I will be gone for the next month or so, and most online retailers are sold out of the 360. Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated.[/quote9a51a8290d]

Some stores you can only use online, some you get physical gift cards for in the mail, and then there's some stores that do both. I got a supercertificate from giftcards.freepay a few months ago, I used $200 online at TigerDirect instantly and then I requested a $100 physical gift card for Wal-Mart. A few days later I got two $50 cards in the mail.

egyptianruin

24-03-2006 04:54:47

[quote5348d6559d="nickman"][quote5348d6559d="egyptianruin"]Okay I don't know if this was asked, and if so I apologize but can we use the gift cards certifcate things instore. I really don't want to purchase anything online seeing that I will be gone for the next month or so, and most online retailers are sold out of the 360. Any help on this matter would be greatly appreciated.[/quote5348d6559d]

Some stores you can only use online, some you get physical gift cards for in the mail, and then there's some stores that do both. I got a supercertificate from giftcards.freepay a few months ago, I used $200 online at TigerDirect instantly and then I requested a $100 physical gift card for Wal-Mart. A few days later I got two $50 cards in the mail.[/quote5348d6559d]

Thanks so much!

Zolar

24-03-2006 09:48:30

any updates on this?

Wolfeman

24-03-2006 11:25:16

[quote7dbbb22790="Zolar"]any updates on this?[/quote7dbbb22790]
If you are talking about the SuperCertificates, we got new ones sent and they now have
Ace Hardware
Amazon.com
Bahama Breeze
Best Buy
Circuit City®
Lowe's
Olive Garden®
Red Lobster®
Sears
Starbucks
Target
The Home Depot®
Wal-Mart

oneill2004uk

24-03-2006 11:35:14

I'm pretty sure you dont but do you get the option to recieve a $400 giftcard off freepay instead of a 360 because i was looking on freebieauthority and according to this guys freebie proof pics he has you do!! -

[link edited out]

i'm confused lol

punjabGTRR34

24-03-2006 11:40:12

[quote226c96028b="Wolfeman"][quote226c96028b="punjabGTRR34"]If I want TigerDirect can I redeem it now? I found some good parts i could use for my computer.[/quote226c96028b]
Yes. Only wait if you want BestBuy...[/quote226c96028b]

I didn't redeem it last night. And now I'm not sure what to redeem!

Zolar

24-03-2006 11:43:58

[quotefe208fbc84="punjabGTRR34"][quotefe208fbc84="Wolfeman"][quotefe208fbc84="punjabGTRR34"]If I want TigerDirect can I redeem it now? I found some good parts i could use for my computer.[/quotefe208fbc84]
Yes. Only wait if you want BestBuy...[/quotefe208fbc84]

I didn't redeem it last night. And now I'm not sure what to redeem![/quotefe208fbc84]

yes, you can get a gift cretificates instead. just put in a ticket to a GC- i just did and got approved.

punjabGTRR34

24-03-2006 11:44:59

Oh no. I mean't I don't know what store to redeem a GiftCert to. I already received the g/c

J4320

24-03-2006 12:51:43

YAY I got mine. D

I'll deal with it further when I get home.

How long has this taken people to receive on average? They told me 7-10 days but haven't people on here gotten it quicker than that?

I Throw

24-03-2006 13:24:00

4 $100 best buy cards on their way to my place

supafreak00

24-03-2006 14:42:39

I've got $400 in Walmart GC's shipped by fedex(weird, i didnt pay for 2 day shipping) and arriving on the 28th.

lakersin2025

25-03-2006 00:18:51

WTF? Did I miss something? Can we get gift cards instead of waiting longer?

champ2131

25-03-2006 07:30:42

[quotee09336876b="lakersin2025"]WTF? Did I miss something? Can we get gift cards instead of waiting longer?[/quotee09336876b]

Yes...read above....

J4320

26-03-2006 13:55:06

I'm still waiting for mine. I'm hunting for a 360 right now though.

ilanbg

26-03-2006 14:42:41

So... two attempts to get a GC has harbored generic customer service responses that ignored my question/request. (

justinag06

26-03-2006 17:36:27

im glad i took it the second I realized I could

J4320

26-03-2006 18:15:47

I'm glad I kicked the little kids playing runescape off of the lobby computer at my timeshare.

kposse77

27-03-2006 06:28:00

So the help section still says they expect to begin filling in the March 2006 timeframe. Any updates on this with all the gift cards that have been shipped out already?

iamzim

27-03-2006 09:06:03

I'm still trying to patiently wait for my system. Any word from the suppliers yet jake?? BestBuy had them on their site online for about 4 hours (which i'm sure equals to a crapload of systems). So it would seem that they are available. Any news for me is good news!
thanks in advance!

champ2131

27-03-2006 10:28:19

[quotee17873ca32="kposse77"]So the help section still says they expect to begin filling in the March 2006 timeframe. Any updates on this with all the gift cards that have been shipped out already?[/quotee17873ca32]

I'm sure they are considering the giftcards as fulfilling our orders.

justinag06

27-03-2006 13:11:09

got my gift cards today also. Only selected free shipping option, but they came 2 days FedEx

ucool22

27-03-2006 13:30:27

how long does it usually take to received the email from giftcard?

justinag06

27-03-2006 13:38:50

the whole thing from asking to in hand was just under a week for me.

OK a little heads up on Best Buy and the 360's. I just called up all local and close BB's, most gave me the run around we don't have them, we don't know. Except one said, they will have a big stock in april and it will be advertised on a sunday. Another elaborated they are saving all stock for this sunday.

So if you aren't finding them looks like sunday is the day.

also check the Deals forum for a thread on GRAW, and Oblivian CE for $50 new.

Drummer16161616

27-03-2006 14:14:21

[quote037e6324ea="justinag06"]the whole thing from asking to in hand was just under a week for me.

OK a little heads up on Best Buy and the 360's. I just called up all local and close BB's, most gave me the run around we don't have them, we don't know. Except one said, they will have a big stock in april and it will be advertised on a sunday. Another elaborated they are saving all stock for this sunday.

So if you aren't finding them looks like sunday is the day.

also check the Deals forum for a thread on GRAW, and Oblivian CE for $50 new.[/quote037e6324ea]

Two stores out of the four I called said Sunday as well, cept one said he was doubtful. The others said they had no news of any new shipments coming in. Pretty lame.

ilanbg

27-03-2006 14:18:27

[quote7365dda0e5="Drummer16161616"][quote7365dda0e5="justinag06"]the whole thing from asking to in hand was just under a week for me.

OK a little heads up on Best Buy and the 360's. I just called up all local and close BB's, most gave me the run around we don't have them, we don't know. Except one said, they will have a big stock in april and it will be advertised on a sunday. Another elaborated they are saving all stock for this sunday.

So if you aren't finding them looks like sunday is the day.

also check the Deals forum for a thread on GRAW, and Oblivian CE for $50 new.[/quote7365dda0e5]

Two stores out of the four I called said Sunday as well, cept one said he was doubtful. The others said they had no news of any new shipments coming in. Pretty lame.[/quote7365dda0e5]

What is the marketing advantage of preventing people from buying something they want? My grocery store does the same thing with ice cream—people are only allowed to buy two pints per purchase.

Any marketing/business majors want to clue me in as to how this is profitable?

mykevermin

27-03-2006 15:12:53

[quotec6a47a4091="justinag06"]the whole thing from asking to in hand was just under a week for me.[/quotec6a47a4091]

Thanks for the info. That's gonna get my hopes up about getting my gc in time to go to my local BB on Sunday morning now!

h3x

27-03-2006 15:38:03

Can you use the GCs that FreePay is handing out on the Best Buy's online site? There are no Best Buy's remotely accessible to me (aside from going on a ship, renting a car, driving to the only Best Buy in the state, going to a hotel to spend the night, driving back to the docks, taking the ship back... you see where I'm going with this.)

justinag06

27-03-2006 17:52:08

yes

mykevermin

27-03-2006 18:49:27

yep.

JJPRO11

27-03-2006 19:26:21

i just emailed them sunday and they responded today saying -
"Thank you for contacting us. We have forwarded your requisition to our fulfillment department already. They will fulfill the $400 super certificate to you instead of the 360 xbox. The gift card will be sent directly to your email address from giftcertificates.com. It can be redeemed for merchant-specific gift cards from hundreds of merchants such as Target, Best Buy, Wal-Mart, etc. You can view the full list of participating merchants at the following link. http//www.giftcertificates.com/merchant2 Hopefully you will receive the gift card within 7-10 days. Please be patient. We are sincerely sorry for any inconvenience that this may cause."


i still havent got their email (i think).. who is it coming from? any yahoo users out there that can tell me the exact subject, sender, etc.. i get so much spam asking to redeem gift certificates that i just dont know.. no email looks like it is from giftcertificates.com or freepay.

codex avellum

27-03-2006 19:33:44

you wont have it today, when your account goes to STV, thats the day you can expect to receive the email

ILoveToys

27-03-2006 20:40:05

I just got my email and ordered the 4 @ $100 from best buy....I don't have to worry about the music now offer anymore screwing me )

h3x

27-03-2006 21:07:47

OK, I understand that you can use Best Buy gift cards on their online site... However, since they will be sending four $100 GCs.. Can you put in 4 seperate card numbers at checkout; or is it limitied to one card number per order?

justinag06

27-03-2006 22:14:28

i dont see why not, better call and see

you have wal-mart?

thats an option too, maybe call and see when the last time they got a 360 was

h3x

27-03-2006 22:43:27

[quote970b5eaa6b="justinag06"]i dont see why not, better call and see

you have wal-mart?

thats an option too, maybe call and see when the last time they got a 360 was[/quote970b5eaa6b]

The last time they got them was 2 months ago.. No idea on when they will get more... Also, keep in mind; I live on an island, so stuff gets here later than normal.

drunkmonkey

28-03-2006 07:40:50

[quote711c293d94="h3x"]OK, I understand that you can use Best Buy gift cards on their online site... However, since they will be sending four $100 GCs.. Can you put in 4 seperate card numbers at checkout; or is it limitied to one card number per order?[/quote711c293d94]

You can use them all at once.

dug1200

28-03-2006 11:20:46

[quoteca66cccedb="JJPRO11"]i just emailed them sunday and they responded today saying -
"Thank you for contacting us. We have forwarded your requisition to our fulfillment department already. They will fulfill the $400 super certificate to you instead of the 360 xbox. The gift card will be sent directly to your email address from giftcertificates.com. It can be redeemed for merchant-specific gift cards from hundreds of merchants such as Target, Best Buy, Wal-Mart, etc. You can view the full list of participating merchants at the following link. http//www.giftcertificates.com/merchant2 Hopefully you will receive the gift card within 7-10 days. Please be patient. We are sincerely sorry for any inconvenience that this may cause."


i still havent got their email (i think).. who is it coming from? any yahoo users out there that can tell me the exact subject, sender, etc.. i get so much spam asking to redeem gift certificates that i just dont know.. no email looks like it is from giftcertificates.com or freepay.[/quoteca66cccedb]

From egifts@ giftcertificates.com
Subject Your FREE Gift Certificate from FreePay

i got that same response from CS on the 24th and i got the email today

hope it helps...also i got an email saying that my 360 shipped and my status changed to shipped when i looked today

h3x

28-03-2006 11:58:38

Sent to Vendor. Here's hoping it will come today.

iamzim

28-03-2006 12:11:21

Well, the website still says I'll get my 360 in march. I wonder if I'll get it in the next 3 days. Any update jake?? Anything????? even a simple...we've asked our vendors, and they're hoping for a shippment on (insert date here).

justinag06

28-03-2006 12:38:01

if he had an update he'd report it

so assume that date to change soon

on the bright side each best buy should be getting 30 premiums a peice this sunday. Maybe this means enough orders are being filled to supply everyone

Truxity.net

28-03-2006 13:39:12

I just thought screw it and contacted CS for the GC. I rather it be on me not getting the system by being lazy or something instead of just waiting like a jackass not knowing when I'm going to recieve my system. Now all I have to do is get a good sized suffle bag to put it in before I get on the bus. rather not take the bag in the store so they don't think I'm tring to rob them so my brother will be coming with me to stand out side with the bag. hopefully though I see it in stock online before in store (by useing the store invetory checker) once I recieve the cards.

ucool22

28-03-2006 13:59:53

went stv...do u get it the same day??

dug1200

28-03-2006 14:30:59

[quotea709c0d513="ucool22"]went stv...do u get it the same day??[/quotea709c0d513]

honestly i dunno...today was the 1st day i checked it since i asked CS for the GC...and when i showed shipped i checked my email and there it was...if you are STV..you will prolly get the email in the next day or so if you didnt get it already

crescendo

28-03-2006 15:55:15

[quotea638b9e1c4="JJPRO11"]i just emailed them sunday and they responded today saying -
"Thank you for contacting us. We have forwarded your requisition to our fulfillment department already. They will fulfill the $400 super certificate to you instead of the 360 xbox. The gift card will be sent directly to your email address from giftcertificates.com. It can be redeemed for merchant-specific gift cards from hundreds of merchants such as Target, Best Buy, Wal-Mart, etc. You can view the full list of participating merchants at the following link. http//www.giftcertificates.com/merchant2 Hopefully you will receive the gift card within 7-10 days. Please be patient. We are sincerely sorry for any inconvenience that this may cause."
[/quotea638b9e1c4]

In the midst of all the crap that's been going on with Freepay selling our information or whatever the heck they did, I broke down and asked for the gift card. They gave me the same response. Hopefully I'll get the email before the end of the week, and WAY before their DC deposition on the 21st!

luckycat

29-03-2006 11:14:00

crescendo I did the same thing, I requested a gc through support and emailed Jake to ask for his assistance/verification, both responded w/in a day and my account changed to STV a couple of days ago..so now I'm just waiting to get my email. I just did a BestBuy search for xbox360, and 4/5 stores are now showing availability in my area. So, maybe next week sometime I'll be able to make my purchase!

joshe181

29-03-2006 11:25:00

The reply I got from CS

"We can not offer you the giftcard at this time. Please do not worry. We will remove the hold from your account once we look into the music now offer. We have been experiencing so problems with that offer we just want to make sure that everything is ok with your offer completion."

Ahhh! They really need to figure out this Music Now issue!

VGM

29-03-2006 13:24:05

best buy has frozen all sales of xbox 360's until sunday. Do not order a best buy gift card if you want one soon...order one to wal-mart or circuit city, as it seems everyone has xbox 360's now. Every best buy in the country is required to have at least 30 on sunday so they aren't selling anymore until then (

Wolfeman

29-03-2006 13:25:43

[quoteb537b21381="VGM"]best buy has frozen all sales of xbox 360's until sunday. Do not order a best buy gift card if you want one soon...order one to wal-mart or circuit city, as it seems everyone has xbox 360's now. Every best buy in the country is required to have at least 30 on sunday so they aren't selling anymore until then ([/quoteb537b21381]
Thats only a few days away roll

luckycat

29-03-2006 14:28:30

Thanks for the bb heads up..question..if I buy one on Sunday when available with cash, can I return it then repurchase it immediately with a gift card when it arrives? Has anyone tried this? I'm going to call BB to see if this is possible.

J4320

29-03-2006 15:08:47

Well I got my 360 yesterday. It's sexy. ;)

Crosswire3

29-03-2006 15:11:26

Requested gift card...we'll see how it pans out.

Wolfeman

29-03-2006 15:13:52

[quotec4f75740f0="J4320"]Well I got my 360 yesterday. It's sexy. ;)[/quotec4f75740f0]
From BB? Premium? What games? A/S/L? ;)

thehacker010

29-03-2006 15:19:21

I am getting my Premium tomorrow. The manager of the wal-mart in my area was kind enough to tell the what time the UPS truck would be arriving with his Xbox 360 orders.... )

J4320

29-03-2006 15:45:49

[quote2e02cc96bf="Wolfeman"][quote2e02cc96bf="J4320"]Well I got my 360 yesterday. It's sexy. ;)[/quote2e02cc96bf]
From BB? Premium? What games? A/S/L? ;)[/quote2e02cc96bf]

This[=http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=36200]This pretty much explains it all.

ffactoryxx

29-03-2006 15:55:00

I went STV about 2 days ago and still nothing. Gc.com doesnt even have an order yet

JesterxXx

30-03-2006 02:12:18

I don't know if it was a fluke timing-wise or they are already starting to come in quick but I saw 3 of each (3 core, 3 pemium) at Target last night (SoCal). But if all Targets have them like that it might be easier than Best Buy for a while lol.

iamzim

30-03-2006 05:31:03

Site still says March....Maybe someone over at freepay invented a time machine, and that's why they havent changed their help page. Hopefully when I go home today, I'll find out that I've had the system for 3 weeks because they went back in time and shipped it!

ucool22

30-03-2006 19:12:04

ergh i sitll havent received my email?! wth is it

h3x

30-03-2006 19:23:03

don't feel alone.. i still haven't received an e-mail yet

thehacker010

30-03-2006 21:10:40

I just went and got a Premium at Target today. They had several just sitting there inside the glass case. I can't open my Xbox 360 yet because I have to return it and re-buy it with the giftcard. Since Target's return time is not that great, I really hope I get a response from Freepay soon. I requested a $400 giftcard using the support ticket system, but I have yet to receive a response.....

The only thing worse than waiting on Freepay to ship Xbox 360s is waiting for Freepay to send a giftcard while staring at an unopened Xbox 360 Premium sitting on your bedroom floor.... evil

egyptianruin

31-03-2006 04:52:28

Well currently all they have is $10 gift cards to Target, already asked them when my gift cards would ship and they said I would get a status update in 10 days.

ILoveToys

31-03-2006 12:17:47

I am waiting for my giftcards to actually be shipped...if I got to gc.com they give me a tracking number, but fedex shows no information received yet....( Oh well...I take it is a good sign that I have as much as I do since I ordered 4 x $100 BB GCs.

h3x

31-03-2006 20:28:02

still no GC ?

woohooafreeipod

31-03-2006 21:44:52

I went STV on wednesday and have not received the gift card email (

egyptianruin

31-03-2006 22:32:30

I got my 8 $50 BBY Cards from FedEx Priority Overnight this morning! Yay!

Wolfeman

31-03-2006 22:33:25

Did you pay for the extra shipping?

Iloveipods2

02-04-2006 00:34:03

WTF!?!?!?! i just found out OC is shipping there xbox360!! i hope freepay has theres too(with a video game and xtra controller)

Menotti

02-04-2006 08:32:33

[quotedb51c067a9="Iloveipods2"]WTF!?!?!?! i just found out OC is shipping there xbox360!! i hope freepay has theres too(with a video game and xtra controller)[/quotedb51c067a9]

At this point, I'd be happy just to get the premium system.

iamzim

02-04-2006 08:59:11

Well, i was at a walmart yesterday and saw 3 premium and 5 core systems. if freepay can't get their hands on them now, i don't know what their problem is!! the site still says march 2006....I hope when jake goes into work on monday he's got some good news for us! Maybe some extra special good news for us that didnt get the GC (because i'm sure they saved money buying everyone else the GCs, they can give us something extra -D ) but probably not...

egyptianruin

02-04-2006 09:26:47

[quote8ff1bd4bf2="Wolfeman"]Did you pay for the extra shipping?[/quote8ff1bd4bf2]

No they upgraded for free for me because it didn't ship when it was supposed too. I picked my 360 up today from Best Buy, they had 100 in stock when I went inat 1100am. Weeeee!

thehacker010

02-04-2006 09:44:03

I requested a GC last week and Freepay responded saying I would receive it by email. However, the status still shows the Xbox 360 and I have not received a single email about the GC. Should I PM Jake, or is this normal?

Menotti

02-04-2006 09:59:13

[quote6565ced8ef="iamzim"]Well, i was at a walmart yesterday and saw 3 premium and 5 core systems. if freepay can't get their hands on them now, i don't know what their problem is!! the site still says march 2006....I hope when jake goes into work on monday he's got some good news for us! Maybe some extra special good news for us that didnt get the GC (because i'm sure they saved money buying everyone else the GCs, they can give us something extra -D ) but probably not...[/quote6565ced8ef]

every sunday i have high hopes for Monday

maybe this Monday will be different! /broken record

i blame history

02-04-2006 10:33:15

[quote8e32ad2112="Iloveipods2"]WTF!?!?!?! i just found out OC is shipping there xbox360!! i hope freepay has theres too(with a video game and xtra controller)[/quote8e32ad2112]

"their," and i doubt it about the extras. i highly doubt it. not because i think 'freepay sucks' or whatever, but because they are not obligated to do so. we didnt do extra offers to get extra stuff, and therefore they have no obligation to send it to us.

then again, they could send me a core system and i would be happy. i could spring for the hard drive, and i have no use for a headset or a wireless controller. although, i had enough referrals to cover the $400 system....

Menotti

03-04-2006 07:12:55

Jake - any word at all on the 360s? Have you guys found a supplier? Is there an order en route? Do you have any updates at all? It's been a while since you've commented on the status of your supply.

iamzim

03-04-2006 08:21:18

[quotef64d2df8cb="Menotti"]Jake - any word at all on the 360s? Have you guys found a supplier? Is there an order en route? Do you have any updates at all? It's been a while since you've commented on the status of your supply.[/quotef64d2df8cb]

That's what I've been asking! ANY word is better than NO word.

Menotti

03-04-2006 08:42:10

[quote17d1b101ff="iamzim"][quote17d1b101ff="Menotti"]Jake - any word at all on the 360s? Have you guys found a supplier? Is there an order en route? Do you have any updates at all? It's been a while since you've commented on the status of your supply.[/quote17d1b101ff]

That's what I've been asking! ANY word is better than NO word.[/quote17d1b101ff]

Agreed...it'd be nice to have some kind of update. It's been a while - most of the info going around is about GCs. What about those of us who want to get the 360 from FP?

phoebe7

03-04-2006 09:45:50

FYI They are not offering gift cards anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Menotti

03-04-2006 10:32:48

[quote42d7926a89="phoebe7"]FYI They are not offering gift cards anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote42d7926a89]

bah...CS wrote back to me today
[quote42d7926a89]Unfortunately we are know longer offering the gift certificate to users. You must wait until our shipment comes in. Once it arrives we will fulfill all orders. THank you[/quote42d7926a89]

phoebe7

03-04-2006 10:34:35

n/m

Bebo

03-04-2006 10:44:52

And confused with recent posts...

ffactoryxx

03-04-2006 11:03:49

[quote9d8750ad0e="Menotti"][quote9d8750ad0e="phoebe7"]FYI They are not offering gift cards anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quote9d8750ad0e]

bah...CS wrote back to me today
[quote9d8750ad0e]Unfortunately we are know longer offering the gift certificate to users. You must wait until our shipment comes in. Once it arrives we will fulfill all orders. THank you[/quote9d8750ad0e][/quote9d8750ad0e]


Yes but how about those in STV since last week. I was offered the giftcard and accepted

ilanbg

03-04-2006 12:25:19

[quotecb761f37ea="ffactoryxx"][quotecb761f37ea="Menotti"][quotecb761f37ea="phoebe7"]FYI They are not offering gift cards anymore!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!![/quotecb761f37ea]

bah...CS wrote back to me today
[quotecb761f37ea]Unfortunately we are know longer offering the gift certificate to users. You must wait until our shipment comes in. Once it arrives we will fulfill all orders. THank you[/quotecb761f37ea][/quotecb761f37ea]


Yes but how about those in STV since last week. I was offered the giftcard and accepted[/quotecb761f37ea]

I PMed Jake yesterday and he PMed me back today to say that the shipments hadn't gone out yet. I assume this means those in STV will still get the cards.

h3x

03-04-2006 14:44:31

But when? I know some people have received their cards but its been 1 week and I still don't have the e-mail.

ucool22

03-04-2006 16:08:35

i been over a week and have not received any email, jake?

Menotti

04-04-2006 06:19:44

crossing my fingers for an update to the supply today

iamzim

04-04-2006 06:43:25

crossing my fingers too.....but definately not holding my breath!! I'd have been dead 2 weeks ago!

mykevermin

04-04-2006 07:04:19

[quotedab1ac6e9c="iamzim"]crossing my fingers too.....but definately not holding my breath!! I'd have been dead 4 fucking months ago![/quotedab1ac6e9c]

Fixed.

iamzim

04-04-2006 07:09:18

HAHA!!! +karma for brightening my day a bit!

ffactoryxx

04-04-2006 07:16:52

[quote1f27eb9a5a="Menotti"]crossing my fingers for an update to the supply today[/quote1f27eb9a5a]

What, was something said about an update today?

ilanbg

04-04-2006 07:58:48

GC.com probably ran out of GCs and told freepay to stop buying them. Then those that made it on the list are stuck waiting for GC.com to restock.


Unhhh....

Menotti

04-04-2006 08:01:08

[quoted2f6770392="ffactoryxx"][quoted2f6770392="Menotti"]crossing my fingers for an update to the supply today[/quoted2f6770392]

What, was something said about an update today?[/quoted2f6770392]

no, just high hopes

ffactoryxx

04-04-2006 08:08:15

[quotedb26764309="ilanbg"]GC.com probably ran out of GCs and told freepay to stop buying them. Then those that made it on the list are stuck waiting for GC.com to restock.


Unhhh....[/quotedb26764309]

I doubt that only because there are so many other places to redeem gc's at on gc.com. I doubt they ran out of giftcards for all thier 100+ stores

chungky

04-04-2006 08:41:30

People are in STV? How come I am stuck in processing. I've been in processing since June!!!

ilanbg

04-04-2006 08:46:18

[quote33dc282208="ffactoryxx"][quote33dc282208="ilanbg"]GC.com probably ran out of GCs and told freepay to stop buying them. Then those that made it on the list are stuck waiting for GC.com to restock.


Unhhh....[/quote33dc282208]

I doubt that only because there are so many other places to redeem gc's at on gc.com. I doubt they ran out of giftcards for all thier 100+ stores[/quote33dc282208]

I'm sure they still have GCs for places like Red Lobster, but their more popular stores like BB, Amazon, and Target were already confirmed to have been out of $100 GCs. They probably ran out of the smaller denominations as well.

egyptianruin

04-04-2006 08:48:38

Yeah I thought about getting the Marriot Hotels GC because In August Im going to Otakon and staying at a Marriot hotel, lol.

drunkmonkey

04-04-2006 09:11:25

[quote0fa139164a="chungky"]People are in STV? How come I am stuck in processing. I've been in processing since June!!![/quote0fa139164a]

Because you haven't requested a giftcard yet?

drunkmonkey

04-04-2006 09:12:57

[quotece09bf13b7="egyptianruin"]Yeah I thought about getting the Marriot Hotels GC because In August Im going to Otakon and staying at a Marriot hotel, lol.[/quotece09bf13b7]

Yeah, I was kinda upset when I saw American Airlines and several hotels on the list, and I just booked a trip through Orbitz 2 weeks ago.

iamzim

04-04-2006 10:05:06

Hmm.... I'm thinking that maybe I should go post a question in the "off-topic" forum. It would appear that Jake answers posts in there more often. Then maybe I'll get at least some sort of clue into what is going on!

ffactoryxx

04-04-2006 10:24:33

Well if this helps. I had a supercertificate from the freepay site for $300 that i just redeemed last Wed. and recieved the 3x$100 BB gc's yesterday

Menotti

04-04-2006 10:36:59

I wish we'd hear about something other than GCs from Jake. 360 supply status, perhaps? Is there a supplier yet?

CougarKid

04-04-2006 11:27:58

[quote303e8ae85c="Menotti"]I wish we'd hear about something other than GCs from Jake. 360 supply status, perhaps? Is there a supplier yet?[/quote303e8ae85c]

That's what I want to know, (

champ2131

04-04-2006 12:25:51

I hate Freepay, I bought a 360 this weekend thinking I was getting a giftcard which I asked for and was STV on...and I get this today.....

4/4/2006 14932 PM
customer service wrote
Due to the overwhelming demand, we are unable to offer an exchange of the Xbox 360 that you earned for a $400 gift certificate. Please rest assured that you have been approved and will receive your product as soon as Microsoft can supply enough Xbox 360’s to meet high the demand. We cannot offer an expected due date at this time but we are encouraged by recent news reports that Microsoft is increasing their production capacity. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. Sincerely, The FreePay Customer Service Team

Menotti

04-04-2006 12:30:51

[quote5b9ebb6cd0="champ2131"]I hate Freepay, I bought a 360 this weekend thinking I was getting a giftcard which I asked for and was STV on...and I get this today.....

4/4/2006 14932 PM
customer service wrote
Due to the overwhelming demand, we are unable to offer an exchange of the Xbox 360 that you earned for a $400 gift certificate. Please rest assured that you have been approved and will receive your product as soon as Microsoft can supply enough Xbox 360’s to meet high the demand. We cannot offer an expected due date at this time but we are encouraged by recent news reports that Microsoft is increasing their production capacity. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. Sincerely, The FreePay Customer Service Team[/quote5b9ebb6cd0]

bah bummer man

I just wish Jake or anyone else would comment on their supply status. It's been a long time since that has been talked about by them. I guess if there was news, we'd get it, but it'd be nice to hear "we contacted x suppliers today and they said yada yada"

mykevermin

04-04-2006 12:34:28

[quote8b0c873282="Menotti"][quote8b0c873282="champ2131"]I hate Freepay, I bought a 360 this weekend thinking I was getting a giftcard which I asked for and was STV on...and I get this today.....

4/4/2006 14932 PM
customer service wrote
Due to the overwhelming demand, we are unable to offer an exchange of the Xbox 360 that you earned for a $400 gift certificate. Please rest assured that you have been approved and will receive your product as soon as Microsoft can supply enough Xbox 360’s to meet high the demand. We cannot offer an expected due date at this time but we are encouraged by recent news reports that Microsoft is increasing their production capacity. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. Sincerely, The FreePay Customer Service Team[/quote8b0c873282]

bah bummer man

I just wish Jake or anyone else would comment on their supply status. It's been a long time since that has been talked about by them. I guess if there was news, we'd get it, but it'd be nice to hear "we contacted x suppliers today and they said yada yada"[/quote8b0c873282]

"we contacted 0 suppliers today and they said nothing, because zero people can't say anything. As a matter of fact, we spent more time picking between crullers and twisty donuts at Tim Horton's than we did even thinking about, much less doing anything about, your Xbox 360. Now shut up you little bastards, I want silence when I'm eating these dounts. THank you."

iamzim

04-04-2006 12:39:08

Or....they could just go to all the stores in the DC area and pick up some boxes from each!! I've been in a walmart, target, bestbuy, circuit city, and EB games, and have seen probably a total of at LEAST 40 premium systems. They're out there now obviously....so there should be no more blaming MS for a lack of supply. Now it's just on freepay dragging their feet, and I'd really like to hear some news.

edit I live in Ohio though, and I'm not sure how the supply is in DC, but I've heard that in the rest of the country it's pretty good too!

jMuss

04-04-2006 13:34:00

I got the same cs response today. At least we can rest assured that the problem is all Microsofts fault and not FreePays. I know FreePay likes to go throught the normal suppliers and what not but what about thinking outside the box a little? Would it be too much to send some people out to pickup what they could? In the last couple months FreePay has fallen from the premier freebie site to one of the worst. They seem to have no regard for their perception and seem to be doing nothing to recover.

champ2131

04-04-2006 14:31:49

It's nice to know that Bestbuy can secure at least 30 in evey one of their stores for this past week.....But Freepay cannot ship a SINGLE console and go back on their giftcard alternative. I thought this was over when I bought my 360, now I have to explain to my wife why she will not be getting the dig camera she wanted and also out of $400. Anyone know if I can return the 360 to Bestbuy for store credit? I still have the receipt.

h3x

04-04-2006 14:48:21

We will never receive an XBOX 360. The company is going to fold on the 21st and they are trying to hang on to their money. This pisses me off. x

CougarKid

04-04-2006 15:04:47

[quote71f6053017="h3x"]We will never receive an XBOX 360. The company is going to fold on the 21st and they are trying to hang on to their money. This pisses me off. x[/quote71f6053017]

It's looking more and more like that all the time. I hope you wrong. cry

special k

04-04-2006 15:25:00

[quote6237dd411f="h3x"]We will never receive an XBOX 360. The company is going to fold on the 21st and they are trying to hang on to their money. This pisses me off. x[/quote6237dd411f]
Thats what they want you to think, they want to make it so hard and so annoying to do their site, when people sign up they will give up and never complete it. Thats my theory.

CougarKid

04-04-2006 15:28:16

[quotea9a66753ec="special k"][quotea9a66753ec="h3x"]We will never receive an XBOX 360. The company is going to fold on the 21st and they are trying to hang on to their money. This pisses me off. x[/quotea9a66753ec]
Thats what they want you to think, they want to make it so hard and so annoying to do their site, when people sign up they will give up and never complete it. Thats my theory.[/quotea9a66753ec]

Tons of people like myself are done, and have been done since forever. It would be really tough not to get anything out of all of it.

dug1200

04-04-2006 16:21:33

[quote7724a803a9="h3x"]We will never receive an XBOX 360. The company is going to fold on the 21st and they are trying to hang on to their money. This pisses me off. x[/quote7724a803a9]

why the 21st?...what happens on that day

Menotti

04-04-2006 16:25:42

[quote75113d01f6="h3x"]We will never receive an XBOX 360. The company is going to fold on the 21st and they are trying to hang on to their money. This pisses me off. x[/quote75113d01f6]

I hope you are wrong too. It looks more and more like that every day, especially when absolutely no updates are given.

I'd also like to note it's going to be April 5 and the 360 site still reads "March 2006 timeframe"

It makes me wonder what in the world is going on over there.

champ2131

04-04-2006 16:29:01

[quote7951f9ca3f="dug1200"][quote7951f9ca3f="h3x"]We will never receive an XBOX 360. The company is going to fold on the 21st and they are trying to hang on to their money. This pisses me off. x[/quote7951f9ca3f]

why the 21st?...what happens on that day[/quote7951f9ca3f]

I believe that is their court appearance.

ilanbg

04-04-2006 16:55:15

At least after that bump we can hope/assume, provided they aren't out of business, that some progress will be made. They're probably spending most of their days drinking and consulting with lawyers.

Menotti

04-04-2006 17:50:24

I didn't want to be the one to call this out or anything...but Jake made 4 posts today...all in the OffTopic forum. I feel like the priority should be to the FreePay Site Discussion before posting about testicles http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=373242&highlight=#373242

CollidgeGraduit

04-04-2006 17:53:08

[quote92dee51b85="Menotti"]I didn't want to be the one to call this out or anything...but Jake made 4 posts today...all in the OffTopic forum. I feel like the priority should be to the FreePay Site Discussion before posting about testicles http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=373242&highlight=#373242[/quote92dee51b85]

What if his superiors haven't given him any new information?

How many PMs did he answer today?

Menotti

04-04-2006 17:54:00

[quoted8c720dede="CollidgeGraduit"]
What if his superiors haven't given him any new information?

How many PMs did he answer today?[/quoted8c720dede]

How many people chose not to PM him in hopes that he might make a general post to everyone? It's nice to simply hear the words "I haven't heard anything today" rather than complete silence.

When there is rampant speculation like "FreePay is trying to grab as much money as possible before the April 21 hearing" it'd be nice to hear [id8c720dede]something[/id8c720dede] about it from a CSR.

I'll be back to talk about this later...

h3x

04-04-2006 17:54:54

[quote43d11c9682="Menotti"]I didn't want to be the one to call this out or anything...but Jake made 4 posts today...all in the OffTopic forum. I feel like the priority should be to the FreePay Site Discussion before posting about testicles http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=373242&highlight=#373242[/quote43d11c9682]

His demeanor is completely different than normal. [b43d11c9682]Something[/b43d11c9682] is going on.. and it's not good.

CollidgeGraduit

04-04-2006 17:56:27

[quotedf2d027bad="Menotti"][quotedf2d027bad="CollidgeGraduit"][quotedf2d027bad="Menotti"]I didn't want to be the one to call this out or anything...but Jake made 4 posts today...all in the OffTopic forum. I feel like the priority should be to the FreePay Site Discussion before posting about testicles http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=373242&highlight=#373242[/quotedf2d027bad][/quotedf2d027bad]

What if his superiors haven't given him any new information?

How many PMs did he answer today?[/quotedf2d027bad]

How many people chose not to PM him in hopes that he might make a general post to everyone? It's nice to simply hear the words "I haven't heard anything today" rather than complete silence.

It's been said many times on the forums for people to PM him for help instead of making threads. It's a much better use of his time to answer PMs than to sift through threads.

He did answer a ton of PMs today (no, I didn't count them), and if he had a busy day at work I'd prefer that he spend his time accomplishing things than taking the time to post a "non-update" to make people feel better.

Seriously, it seems like Jake is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.

Menotti

04-04-2006 17:58:42

[quoteaf7b8eb6e7="CollidgeGraduit"]
Seriously, it seems like Jake is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.[/quoteaf7b8eb6e7]

I disagree. The mood is much more positive if he says something over nothing.

All it takes is "I'm sorry everyone, we are still having supply difficulty and my superiors haven't told me anything."

All we're saying is that it's been a while since the 360 unit supply issue was touched on b/c of the GiftCard ordeal. Now that they cut them off, we'd appreciate some kind of info, especially with FreePay in the news so much.

Menotti

04-04-2006 17:59:35

[quote90eeee3f31="CollidgeGraduit"]It's been said many times on the forums for people to PM him for help instead of making threads. It's a much better use of his time to answer PMs than to sift through threads. [/quote90eeee3f31]

He doesn't really have to sift through the 360 sticky. A status post will do.

h3x

04-04-2006 18:01:35

[quote83e49c4ab1="Menotti"][quote83e49c4ab1="CollidgeGraduit"]
Seriously, it seems like Jake is damned if he does, damned if he doesn't.[/quote83e49c4ab1]

I disagree. The mood is much more positive if he says something over nothing.

All it takes is "I'm sorry everyone, we are still having supply difficulty and my superiors haven't told me anything."

All we're saying is that it's been a while since the 360 unit supply issue was touched on b/c of the GiftCard ordeal. Now that they cut them off, we'd appreciate some kind of info, especially with FreePay in the news so much.[/quote83e49c4ab1]

That would be more tolerable than discussion about his testicles ?

egyptianruin

04-04-2006 19:12:26

As for jake posting in non related FreePay threads, so what?

Maybe he is trying to relax... Everyone seems to be holding Jake personally responsible for FreePay's problems - its not Jake's fault he is an employee of a company. (sigh)

woohooafreeipod

04-04-2006 19:36:05

[quotefced2881f1="egyptianruin"]
Maybe he is trying to relax... Everyone seems to be holding Jake personally responsible for FreePay's problems - [bfced2881f1]its not Jake's fault he is an employee of a company.[/bfced2881f1] (sigh)[/quotefced2881f1]

Well... it IS his fault he is a Gratis employee because he's the one who submitted a resumé and got hired. On the other hand, if you would have said that it's not Jake's fault that his superiors are being dumblilililis then that would be true.

Sorry for getting all technical on your post egyptianruin, just feeling frustrated with the situation (

grm

04-04-2006 19:44:20

It IS his fault that he is posting on a forum, about his company, in threads that aren't about his company while people have been subjected to a 90 day policy that is nearing half over, without anything being done! (According to the people on this board(a large percentile of their members!))
NO 360s, NO giftcards, NO greens, NO approvals, NO answers. Soon to be NO company!!!

Menotti

04-04-2006 21:16:45

[quoteffab6afb35="egyptianruin"]As for jake posting in non related FreePay threads, so what?[/quoteffab6afb35]

The problem is that this customer base views that as a mix up in priorities. It is well known that there is a sticky 360 thread and it wouldn't be too difficult to post [iffab6afb35]something[/iffab6afb35] here if there is time to post things off-topic. The role of a CSR is more important than that of a regular forum user if one is representing the company.

It just doesn't look good on his part, that's all we're saying. A simple, one line update is better than nothing.

example [iffab6afb35]my superiors haven't given me any new info[/iffab6afb35]

or

[iffab6afb35]we are working hard to obtain a supplier[/iffab6afb35]

or

[iffab6afb35]we are backed up with legal issues and finding a supplier has taken a back seat[/iffab6afb35]

[bffab6afb35]something - anything[/bffab6afb35]

ffactoryxx

04-04-2006 21:27:19

WE ARE NOT GETTING THE 360's GUYS!!!![/size043b3fdb7d]

Face the music. Freepay is done for.


I question this though. They are located in DC. Im surprised no-one has gone down there to thier offices or is able to pull up any financial info on freepay let alone even get in contact with someone there

Menotti

04-04-2006 21:32:11

If we aren't getting them, there is no chance for any class-action I guess? roll

ffactoryxx

04-04-2006 21:55:02

And how much would a lawyer cost

Menotti

04-04-2006 22:10:51

[quote4ed9a9f17e="ffactoryxx"]And how much would a lawyer cost[/quote4ed9a9f17e]

true.

as a side note, the people over on the Anything4Free forums are complaining that Jake is posting often in their off topic area w/o giving info pertaining to FreePay.

I just wish he'd say something here to make us understand what is going on!

Wolfeman

04-04-2006 22:25:42

You guys are all fucking nuts. The court case is going to go on for years. Freepay makes a ton of money and there is no reason except crazy internet talk that they'd shut down...

Menotti

04-04-2006 22:37:58

[quote9ac27a62dd="Wolfeman"]You guys are all fucking nuts. The court case is going to go on for years. Freepay makes a ton of money and there is no reason except crazy internet talk that they'd shut down...[/quote9ac27a62dd]

I do hope you're right. It just doesn't help when the CSR doesn't say anything pertaining to his company for a while.

Wolfeman

04-04-2006 22:40:20

Because he gets sick of all the bitching. When he has some info., he'll tell you. He doesn't need to come in here daily to say nothing new. A TON of people got gift cards in the last few weeks, if they were really closing why would they have bothered?

CougarKid

04-04-2006 22:50:58

[quote9064a489f7="Wolfeman"]Because he gets sick of all the bitching. When he has some info., he'll tell you. He doesn't need to come in here daily to say nothing new. A TON of people got gift cards in the last few weeks, if they were really closing why would they have bothered?[/quote9064a489f7]

Perhaps they wanted to get some people off their backs. On the other hand you may be right. All we can do now is hope. shrug

Menotti

04-04-2006 22:52:45

[quotee418d2a6f3="Wolfeman"]Because he gets sick of all the bitching. When he has some info., he'll tell you. He doesn't need to come in here daily to say nothing new. A TON of people got gift cards in the last few weeks, if they were really closing why would they have bothered?[/quotee418d2a6f3]

I understand. I guess I just like seeing a report that says there is no news over no report at all. It makes people more nervous not to hear anything.

Wolfeman

04-04-2006 22:53:14

Its just a far leap to go from they might have some legal issues and they haven't started shipping 360s to they are closing on the 21st...

Menotti

04-04-2006 23:13:51

[quote927aee8594="Wolfeman"]Its just a far leap to go from they might have some legal issues and they haven't started shipping 360s to they are closing on the 21st...[/quote927aee8594]

Yeah I understand. Obviously, if a hearing is starting on the 21st, they obviously are not closing on that date as many have thought. Let's just hope we get some more solid information soon.

CougarKid

05-04-2006 01:06:28

Jake must have been told by his superiors that he shouldn't comment on it. Although Wolfe you may not be as on edge as us since you already gotten you GC's perhaps. Just a thought.

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 01:07:25

Even if I hadn't, I wouldn't be on edge...

ApplePie

05-04-2006 10:16:16

I hate Freepay, I bought a 360 this weekend thinking I was getting a giftcard which I asked for and was STV on...and I get this today.....

4/4/2006 14932 PM
customer service wrote
Due to the overwhelming demand, we are unable to offer an exchange of the Xbox 360 that you earned for a $400 gift certificate. Please rest assured that you have been approved and will receive your product as soon as Microsoft can supply enough Xbox 360’s to meet high the demand. We cannot offer an expected due date at this time but we are encouraged by recent news reports that Microsoft is increasing their production capacity. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. Sincerely, The FreePay Customer Service Team


OK, so why does my Mac mini say "STV, waiting on product"?

PoPoJiJo

05-04-2006 10:23:43

[quoteac2a8cd54a="ApplePie"][quoteac2a8cd54a="champ2131"]I hate Freepay, I bought a 360 this weekend thinking I was getting a giftcard which I asked for and was STV on...and I get this today.....

4/4/2006 14932 PM
customer service wrote
Due to the overwhelming demand, we are unable to offer an exchange of the Xbox 360 that you earned for a $400 gift certificate. Please rest assured that you have been approved and will receive your product as soon as Microsoft can supply enough Xbox 360’s to meet high the demand. We cannot offer an expected due date at this time but we are encouraged by recent news reports that Microsoft is increasing their production capacity. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. Sincerely, The FreePay Customer Service Team[/quoteac2a8cd54a]

OK, so why does my Mac mini say "STV, waiting on product"?[/quoteac2a8cd54a]

probably because it is what does your macmini have to do with the xbox 360?

luckycat

05-04-2006 10:53:54

[quote0b92ea651c="ApplePie"][quote0b92ea651c="champ2131"]I hate Freepay, I bought a 360 this weekend thinking I was getting a giftcard which I asked for and was STV on...and I get this today.....

4/4/2006 14932 PM
customer service wrote
Due to the overwhelming demand, we are unable to offer an exchange of the Xbox 360 that you earned for a $400 gift certificate. Please rest assured that you have been approved and will receive your product as soon as Microsoft can supply enough Xbox 360’s to meet high the demand. We cannot offer an expected due date at this time but we are encouraged by recent news reports that Microsoft is increasing their production capacity. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. Sincerely, The FreePay Customer Service Team[/quote0b92ea651c]

OK, so why does my Mac mini say "STV, waiting on product"?[/quote0b92ea651c]

I'm in the same scenario, customer support replied to me today with exactly the same response...so now it's back to waiting on increased supply of xbox360s!!! I have not given up home, I don't think FP is going under.

burritopunk

05-04-2006 11:34:19

Xbox 360's aren't as easy to find as everyone says they are, especially in the Northern Virginia and Richmond area. I work in retail, and i've checked in many districts of different stores with no avail, and no word when they will get more. I know Freepay goes through suppliers, so it's different, but so do retail stores, and they are still waiting. I believe the shortage is a Microsoft problem.

Just my $0.02.

luckycat

05-04-2006 11:42:36

I agree, there were a few in some local stores this weekend, but they are as of now gone. It is a Microsoft problem, and I think they are probably placing higher priority on large retailers like BB WM etc.

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 11:47:58

My BB only got a few and they were gone very fast...

egyptianruin

05-04-2006 12:08:46

My Best Buy got 100 in on Sunday and 45 more this past Tuesday

mykevermin

05-04-2006 12:13:31

Yeah, they're so hard to come by, and they all sold out on Monday.

Oh, what's that? Pardon me for a moment...

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Wolfeman

05-04-2006 12:16:22

They've said 1000 times they aren't going to around to BB and pick up systems. Once they get a vendor that will fulfill their order, they'll buy them...

mykevermin

05-04-2006 12:32:14

I didn't suggest they should go to Best Buy and pick them up.

I'm merely pointing out that anyone relying on anecdotal evidence to say that they are/are not available everywhere is fooling themselves.

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 12:40:20

They are still not readily available...

mykevermin

05-04-2006 12:55:07

You're a bit thick, aren't you?

phoebe7

05-04-2006 12:57:26

I think it's easier to not be upset and excuse things when you've already received your $400 gift card from freepay. D However, I understand it's not freepay's fault these XBox 360s are hard to come by. And even though I'm upset there's not much pointing out how other stores have inventory can do about it.

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 12:58:16

[quotef7566d98f6="mykevermin"]You're a bit thick, aren't you?[/quotef7566d98f6]
A few BestBuys have a few in stock. Its not like they are ate every BestBuy, Target, Walmart, etc. Hence, not readily available. Its still really tough to get a large quantity which is what Freepay needs...

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 12:59:14

[quotefa2d73d563="phoebe7"]I think it's easier to not be upset and excuse things when you've already received your $400 gift card from freepay. D However, I understand it's not freepay's fault these XBox 360s are hard to come by. And even though I'm upset there's not much pointing out how other stores have inventory can do about it.[/quotefa2d73d563]
You can look, before I got my cards I was saying the same thing...

iamzim

05-04-2006 13:07:01

[quote5019ace9d7="Wolfeman"]
A few BestBuys have a few in stock. [/quote5019ace9d7]

Actually, I'm pretty sure that in BBY's sunday ad, it said that they would have a MINIMUM of 30 per store. i don't know if that was ALL stores, but i'm willing to bet that it was more than a few stores..and 30 xbox 360's = more than a few. Not that it really matters, because i'm sure they're mostly gone by now.

nickman

05-04-2006 13:17:50

im glad you guys are arguing over the definition of 'readily available' in terms of best buys having xbox 360s. it's a lot of fun to read.

wolfemansucks

05-04-2006 17:12:17

[quotee9a0ab2d88="Wolfeman"]They are still not readily available...[/quotee9a0ab2d88]

I'm so sick and tired of your posts. Please shut up. You already received you giftcard so you should have no say in this matter. Stay out of it. x

PoPoJiJo

05-04-2006 17:14:58

[quote7616cfde26="wolfemansucks"][quote7616cfde26="Wolfeman"]They are still not readily available...[/quote7616cfde26]

I'm so sick and tired of your posts. Please shut up. You already received you giftcard so you should have no say in this matter. Stay out of it. x[/quote7616cfde26]
don't be an asshole everyones entitled to their opinion

wolfemansucks

05-04-2006 17:26:07

[quotef2ec87e383="PoPoJiJo"][quotef2ec87e383="wolfemansucks"][quotef2ec87e383="Wolfeman"]They are still not readily available...[/quotef2ec87e383]

I'm so sick and tired of your posts. Please shut up. You already received you giftcard so you should have no say in this matter. Stay out of it. x[/quotef2ec87e383]
don't be an asshole everyones entitled to their opinion[/quotef2ec87e383]

Wolfeman is one by far the biggest. Every one of his posts defends freepay and he has his nose stuck so far ups Jakes and Freepays a$$ thats its sorry. It would be different if he never recieved his giftcard but that is not the case. He should have no say on this matter. Tell him to send his giftcard back then open his big brown nosing mouth.

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 17:26:44

[quotece63cc5139="wolfemansucks"][quotece63cc5139="Wolfeman"]They are still not readily available...[/quotece63cc5139]

I'm so sick and tired of your posts. Please shut up. You already received you giftcard so you should have no say in this matter. Stay out of it. x[/quotece63cc5139]
You are pissed because you know I'm right...

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 17:28:40

[quote8487f5a93a="wolfemansucks"][quote8487f5a93a="PoPoJiJo"][quote8487f5a93a="wolfemansucks"][quote8487f5a93a="Wolfeman"]They are still not readily available...[/quote8487f5a93a]

I'm so sick and tired of your posts. Please shut up. You already received you giftcard so you should have no say in this matter. Stay out of it. x[/quote8487f5a93a]
don't be an asshole everyones entitled to their opinion[/quote8487f5a93a]

Wolfeman is one by far the biggest. Every one of his posts defends freepay and he has his nose stuck so far ups Jakes and Freepays a$$ thats its sorry. It would be different if he never recieved his giftcard but that is not the case. He should have no say on this matter. Tell him to send his giftcard back then open his big brown nosing mouth.[/quote8487f5a93a]
Look at what I was posting before I got my card, it was the exact same thing. You are such a big man you make a new account cause you are scared to say anything under your normal name. I think its funny and I'm going to post so much more now because I'm not going anywhere, hahahaha...

wolfemansucks

05-04-2006 17:29:27

[quote8bb71b01dc="Wolfeman"][quote8bb71b01dc="wolfemansucks"][quote8bb71b01dc="Wolfeman"]They are still not readily available...[/quote8bb71b01dc]

I'm so sick and tired of your posts. Please shut up. You already received you giftcard so you should have no say in this matter. Stay out of it. x[/quote8bb71b01dc]
You are pissed because you know I'm right...[/quote8bb71b01dc]

How are you right. You recieved your giftcard others did not
Xbox 360's could be bought in large numbers for months now. But some how your right. Your a joke. Freepay been giving us the run around for almost 6 months now. Any other company would already have gone under by now. And every single one of your posts on how Freepay is like God. Get over it or go work for them or shut your mouth

wolfemansucks

05-04-2006 17:31:34

[quote762192db4b="Wolfeman"][quote762192db4b="wolfemansucks"][quote762192db4b="PoPoJiJo"][quote762192db4b="wolfemansucks"][quote762192db4b="Wolfeman"]They are still not readily available...[/quote762192db4b]

I'm so sick and tired of your posts. Please shut up. You already received you giftcard so you should have no say in this matter. Stay out of it. x[/quote762192db4b]
don't be an asshole everyones entitled to their opinion[/quote762192db4b]

Wolfeman is one by far the biggest. Every one of his posts defends freepay and he has his nose stuck so far ups Jakes and Freepays a$$ thats its sorry. It would be different if he never recieved his giftcard but that is not the case. He should have no say on this matter. Tell him to send his giftcard back then open his big brown nosing mouth.[/quote762192db4b]
Look at what I was posting before I got my card, it was the exact same thing. You are such a big man you make a new account cause you are scared to say anything under your normal name. I think its funny and I'm going to post so much more now because I'm not going anywhere, hahahaha...[/quote762192db4b]

Probably because your a moderator fag. Thats why your not going anywhere. You kiss the mods a$$ and this is your life. Your on this board 24/7 and it took you a measly 2 seconds to respond. Get a life loser. Go tell your buddy colligegrad to ban me. I don't care. You too are both fags and its sad. No one on this board even likes you besides the other mods.

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 17:32:20

Blah blah blah. If I hadn't gotten a giftcard I'd still be here saying just wait and quit crying...

wolfemansucks

05-04-2006 17:34:29

[quotebfeb54f9f7="Wolfeman"]Blah blah blah. If I hadn't gotten a giftcard I'd still be here saying just wait and quit crying...[/quotebfeb54f9f7]

What a freakin tool. Stay off this posts. This is for others who have not received anything and don't take it in the a$$ from Freepay like you do. Blah Blah Blah. Be your own man and take freepays you know what out of your mouth for a measly two seconds.

bballp6699

05-04-2006 17:49:18

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Wolfeman

05-04-2006 18:02:09

[quotecc25f859b9="wolfemansucks"][quotecc25f859b9="Wolfeman"]Blah blah blah. If I hadn't gotten a giftcard I'd still be here saying just wait and quit crying...[/quotecc25f859b9]

What a freakin tool. Stay off this posts. This is for others who have not received anything and don't take it in the a$$ from Freepay like you do. Blah Blah Blah. Be your own man and take freepays you know what out of your mouth for a measly two seconds.[/quotecc25f859b9]
You aren't even good at making fun of someone. Tell you what, exit your mom's basement, tell your AOL girlfriend good bye, and go outside for a little while because you are taking this all too serious...

thenameisjoe

05-04-2006 18:18:44

[quote5afbdc9824="wolfemansucks"][quote5afbdc9824="Wolfeman"][quote5afbdc9824="wolfemansucks"][quote5afbdc9824="PoPoJiJo"][quote5afbdc9824="wolfemansucks"][quote5afbdc9824="Wolfeman"]They are still not readily available...[/quote5afbdc9824]

I'm so sick and tired of your posts. Please shut up. You already received you giftcard so you should have no say in this matter. Stay out of it. x[/quote5afbdc9824]
don't be an asshole everyones entitled to their opinion[/quote5afbdc9824]

Wolfeman is one by far the biggest. Every one of his posts defends freepay and he has his nose stuck so far ups Jakes and Freepays a$$ thats its sorry. It would be different if he never recieved his giftcard but that is not the case. He should have no say on this matter. Tell him to send his giftcard back then open his big brown nosing mouth.[/quote5afbdc9824]
Look at what I was posting before I got my card, it was the exact same thing. You are such a big man you make a new account cause you are scared to say anything under your normal name. I think its funny and I'm going to post so much more now because I'm not going anywhere, hahahaha...[/quote5afbdc9824]

Probably because your a moderator fag. Thats why your not going anywhere. You kiss the mods a$$ and this is your life. Your on this board 24/7 and it took you a measly 2 seconds to respond. Get a life loser. Go tell your buddy colligegrad to ban me. I don't care. You too are both fags and its sad. No one on this board even likes you besides the other mods.[/quote5afbdc9824]

heh glad someone finally said it

wolfmanstillsucks

05-04-2006 18:21:12

[quote64def8f632="Wolfeman"][quote64def8f632="wolfemansucks"][quote64def8f632="Wolfeman"]Blah blah blah. If I hadn't gotten a giftcard I'd still be here saying just wait and quit crying...[/quote64def8f632]

What a freakin tool. Stay off this posts. This is for others who have not received anything and don't take it in the a$$ from Freepay like you do. Blah Blah Blah. Be your own man and take freepays you know what out of your mouth for a measly two seconds.[/quote64def8f632]
You aren't even good at making fun of someone. Tell you what, exit your mom's basement, tell your AOL girlfriend good bye, and go outside for a little while because you are taking this all too serious...[/quote64def8f632]

Oh I see you banned me. How lame can you be. Because you don't like what someone states you ban them and then get the last word in.

Do you have a life outside this forum. Everytime I make a post no matter what time of the day it is two seconds later you respond. Get a freakin life outside of the board. Go out and have a nice dinner with your boyfriend for once. It doesn't really matter. Just get off these boards for once.

Go ahead an ban me again . I could care less. I have a thousands of ip adds. I guess living in my moms basement has some good things. Just ban me and get your last word in two seconds later. You will still be a fag and still be have your mouth so far ups freepays a$$.

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 18:21:56

Yeah I'm glad he said it too. I'm sooooo upset. I have less internet friends now (

wolfmanstillsucks

05-04-2006 18:24:16

[quotef7cbc1416e="Wolfeman"]Yeah I'm glad he said it too. I'm sooooo upset. I have less internet friends now ([/quotef7cbc1416e]

Hopefully one day I'll star kissing the mods a$$'s be a brown noser and be just like you. Then I can ban anyone who disagrees with me.(everyone) and make it a life. How sad

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 18:24:19

[quotec293a5b054="wolfmanstillsucks"][quotec293a5b054="Wolfeman"][quotec293a5b054="wolfemansucks"][quotec293a5b054="Wolfeman"]Blah blah blah. If I hadn't gotten a giftcard I'd still be here saying just wait and quit crying...[/quotec293a5b054]

What a freakin tool. Stay off this posts. This is for others who have not received anything and don't take it in the a$$ from Freepay like you do. Blah Blah Blah. Be your own man and take freepays you know what out of your mouth for a measly two seconds.[/quotec293a5b054]
You aren't even good at making fun of someone. Tell you what, exit your mom's basement, tell your AOL girlfriend good bye, and go outside for a little while because you are taking this all too serious...[/quotec293a5b054]

Oh I see you banned me. How lame can you be. Because you don't like what someone states you ban them and then get the last word in.

Do you have a life outside this forum. Everytime I make a post no matter what time of the day it is two seconds later you respond. Get a freakin life outside of the board. Go out and have a nice dinner with your boyfriend for once. It doesn't really matter. Just get off these boards for once.

Go ahead an ban me again . I could care less. I have a thousands of ip adds. I guess living in my moms basement has some good things. Just ban me and get your last word in two seconds later. You will still be a fag and still be have your mouth so far ups freepays a$$.[/quotec293a5b054]
You are so tough. I'm glad you have to make a fake name because you are scared of getting banned on your real one. All you are going to do is get this thread locked so no one can talk about Freepay anymore...

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 18:26:11

[quote3e3df3282e="wolfmanstillsucks"][quote3e3df3282e="Wolfeman"]Yeah I'm glad he said it too. I'm sooooo upset. I have less internet friends now ([/quote3e3df3282e]

Hopefully one day I'll star kissing the mods a$$'s be a brown noser and be just like you. Then I can ban anyone who disagrees with me.(everyone) and make it a life. How sad[/quote3e3df3282e]
I didn't ban you. I don't kiss anyones ass. I hope you [b3e3df3282e]star[/b3e3df3282e] shutting the fuck up because your belly aching is just sad and getting old...

wolfmanstillsucks

05-04-2006 18:28:07

[quotec86dbc19de="Wolfeman"][quotec86dbc19de="wolfmanstillsucks"][quotec86dbc19de="Wolfeman"][quotec86dbc19de="wolfemansucks"][quotec86dbc19de="Wolfeman"]Blah blah blah. If I hadn't gotten a giftcard I'd still be here saying just wait and quit crying...[/quotec86dbc19de]

What a freakin tool. Stay off this posts. This is for others who have not received anything and don't take it in the a$$ from Freepay like you do. Blah Blah Blah. Be your own man and take freepays you know what out of your mouth for a measly two seconds.[/quotec86dbc19de]
You aren't even good at making fun of someone. Tell you what, exit your mom's basement, tell your AOL girlfriend good bye, and go outside for a little while because you are taking this all too serious...[/quotec86dbc19de]

Oh I see you banned me. How lame can you be. Because you don't like what someone states you ban them and then get the last word in.

Do you have a life outside this forum. Everytime I make a post no matter what time of the day it is two seconds later you respond. Get a freakin life outside of the board. Go out and have a nice dinner with your boyfriend for once. It doesn't really matter. Just get off these boards for once.

Go ahead an ban me again . I could care less. I have a thousands of ip adds. I guess living in my moms basement has some good things. Just ban me and get your last word in two seconds later. You will still be a fag and still be have your mouth so far ups freepays a$$.[/quotec86dbc19de]
You are so tough. I'm glad you have to make a fake name because you are scared of getting banned on your real one. All you are going to do is get this thread locked so no one can talk about Freepay anymore...[/quotec86dbc19de]

Lets see I posted 524
Wolfman posted 524

You have no life. It wasn't a full minute went by that you responded. You a freakin tool and have no life. I'll keep posting as long as you keep banning me because your a fag and don't like the truth. Please quit posting on this forum because you already received your card and have no say in this matter. Get a life and go outside and put the computer down for once fag.

ilanbg

05-04-2006 18:29:20

I for one can say I will be pretty ashamed if the day ever comes that I make new accounts with intents to do nothing more than mock another member...

Some people can be so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable.

wolfmanstillsucks

05-04-2006 18:31:17

Lets see how long it takes wolfman to respond. My guess less then a minute because he has no life and this board is all that he has going for him in his life. Its just sad.

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 18:31:37

[quote6566f0e7a8="ilanbg"]I for one can say I will be pretty ashamed if the day ever comes that I make new accounts with intents to do nothing more than mock another member...

Some people can be so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable.[/quote6566f0e7a8]
Exactly. Keep making accounts because you are so cool. I'm going to keep posting wherever I feel so just deal with it...

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 18:32:59

[quote642a9cad34="wolfmanstillsucks"]Lets see how long it takes wolfman to respond. My guess less then a minute because he has no life and this board is all that he has going for him in his life. Its just sad.[/quote642a9cad34]
Because I finish making a post and see you've posted more, retard. It doesn't matter what you say because you are just a little cry baby and I'm not going anywhere...

wolfmanstillsucks

05-04-2006 18:33:40

[quote16bff2ca36="ilanbg"]I for one can say I will be pretty ashamed if the day ever comes that I make new accounts with intents to do nothing more than mock another member...

Some people can be so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable.[/quote16bff2ca36]

Whats unbelievable is banning someone for telling the truth. Also Freepay not going under yet thats unbelievalble. Wolfman still kissing freepays and jakes a$$. Thats unbelievable.

bballp6699

05-04-2006 18:34:06

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thenameisjoe

05-04-2006 18:34:08

[quote6c42e5ea5c]I for one can say I will be pretty ashamed if the day ever comes that I make new accounts with intents to do nothing more than mock another member...

Some people can be so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable.[/quote6c42e5ea5c]

I somewhat agree but dude these mods are a pain in the a$$ man. Not one post without a condescending remark or sarcasm. The holier than thou attitude and the constant "Freepay can do no wrong" attitude is annoying as hell.

Thats why I barely come to these forums anymore. Cause I'd be driven to do the same thing.

wolfmanstillsucks

05-04-2006 18:35:21

[quotef8a082fc90="Wolfeman"][quotef8a082fc90="wolfmanstillsucks"]Lets see how long it takes wolfman to respond. My guess less then a minute because he has no life and this board is all that he has going for him in his life. Its just sad.[/quotef8a082fc90]
Because I finish making a post and see you've posted more, retard. It doesn't matter what you say because you are just a little cry baby and I'm not going anywhere...[/quotef8a082fc90]

LMAO. I was right. Less then a minute. How can you finish making a post when you respond to my question. Get a freakin life outside this board. I know you have no friends in the real world but you don't have any on this board either. Quit freakin posting your worthless posts fag
GET A FREAKIN LIFE AND TRY NOT TO POST ON THIS BOARD FOR A FULL 5 MINUTES

dagreatmighty1

05-04-2006 18:37:10

On the Best Buy Ad paper

[i2db9908bc0] Limit 1 per customer. [b2db9908bc0]No Vendors.[/b2db9908bc0] [/i2db9908bc0]

There you have it. Freepay isn't looking for one only, and they sure would seem like a vendor.

wolfmanstillsucks

05-04-2006 18:38:18

[quoteee7f619c1b="thenameisjoe"][quoteee7f619c1b]I for one can say I will be pretty ashamed if the day ever comes that I make new accounts with intents to do nothing more than mock another member...

Some people can be so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable.[/quoteee7f619c1b]

I somewhat agree but dude these mods are a pain in the a$$ man. Not one post without a condescending remark or sarcasm. The holier than thou attitude and the constant "Freepay can do no wrong" attitude is annoying as hell.

Thats why I barely come to these forums anymore. Cause I'd be driven to do the same thing.[/quoteee7f619c1b]

Exactly you can't say anything with out being banned. Maybe I'll start being a brown noser like Wolfman and kissing a$$ and maybe I'll be a moderator and have my goal in life set like wolfman does.

bballp6699

05-04-2006 18:41:57

Maybe if you just said it in a more civilized way rather then, "fag this, get a life, fag that"?

I've disagreed with mods before and shit was done about it... shrug

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 18:42:51

Your posts are so enlightening. I love how the guy thats too much of a pussy to post under his real name and a guy with 14 posts are saying they don't like it hear. How about leave? The mods here try to help as much as we can but lets say we all say FUCK FREEPAY! How does that change a damn thing? Does Freepay say, "oh no the mods are upset" and send out all the 360s? We get no special treatment by Freepay so there is no reason for us to kiss their asses except to keep a rep here which I'm surprised sticks around with all you cry babies here. All you are doing is making this thred lamer than normal and pissing off people looking for real information.

Also, I'm sure thenameisjoe and my #1 fan are the same person since they are on eachothers' nuts and both are so clever they replace s's with $'s in the word ass shrug

ilanbg

05-04-2006 18:48:19

[quotea67851a018="wolfmanstillsucks"][quotea67851a018="ilanbg"]I for one can say I will be pretty ashamed if the day ever comes that I make new accounts with intents to do nothing more than mock another member...

Some people can be so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable.[/quotea67851a018]

Whats unbelievable is banning someone for telling the truth. Also Freepay not going under yet thats unbelievalble. Wolfman still kissing freepays and jakes a$$. Thats unbelievable.[/quotea67851a018]

My suggestion is that you leave. Your parents aren't dropping you off here every day on the way to work so gtfo.

thenameisjoe

05-04-2006 18:54:32

[quote80de57eea6="Wolfeman"]Your posts are so enlightening. I love how the guy thats too much of a pussy to post under his real name and a guy with 14 posts are saying they don't like it hear. How about leave? The mods here try to help as much as we can but lets say we all say FUCK FREEPAY! How does that change a damn thing? Does Freepay say, "oh no the mods are upset" and send out all the 360s? We get no special treatment by Freepay so there is no reason for us to kiss their asses except to keep a rep here which I'm surprised sticks around with all you cry babies here. All you are doing is making this thred lamer than normal and pissing off people looking for real information.

Also, I'm sure thenameisjoe and my #1 fan are the same person since they are on eachothers' nuts and both are so clever they replace s's with $'s in the word ass shrug[/quote80de57eea6]

Ahh what a surprise! Another mod post laced with condescension and insults. What does my post count have to do with anything? I've been reading these forums for close to a year now and only recently decided to start posting. The only reason I dont post is because of this very reason.

These forums and this thread specifically is supposed to be for discussing the xbox 360 situation yet the mods bitch about people complaining. So the f what! Let them/us complain! I never saw mods complain when people were praising Freepay/Gratis all the time. The other guy is right, whats the point in coming in here if you are done with the 360 situation already.

wolfmansafag

05-04-2006 18:56:15

[quotef4c86d9244="ilanbg"][quotef4c86d9244="wolfmanstillsucks"][quotef4c86d9244="ilanbg"]I for one can say I will be pretty ashamed if the day ever comes that I make new accounts with intents to do nothing more than mock another member...

Some people can be so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable.[/quotef4c86d9244]

Whats unbelievable is banning someone for telling the truth. Also Freepay not going under yet thats unbelievalble. Wolfman still kissing freepays and jakes a$$. Thats unbelievable.[/quotef4c86d9244]

My suggestion is that you leave. Your parents aren't dropping you off here every day on the way to work so gtfo.[/quotef4c86d9244]

My suggestion is you STFU and mind you own business. How about that.

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 18:57:41

You guys can talk, moan, cry and whine all you want about the 360 situation, thats why the thread is here but don't fucking freak when someone has an opposite opionion. If we didn't want this thread that looks bad for Freepay or we were in Freepay's pocket, this thread wouldn't exist. I just don't think Freepay is trying to screw anyone and they'll ship 360s as soon as they can get their hands on a bulk ammount shrug

wolfmansafag

05-04-2006 18:58:02

[quote9698f16e6c="Wolfeman"]Your posts are so enlightening. I love how the guy thats too much of a pussy to post under his real name and a guy with 14 posts are saying they don't like it hear. How about leave? The mods here try to help as much as we can but lets say we all say FUCK FREEPAY! How does that change a damn thing? Does Freepay say, "oh no the mods are upset" and send out all the 360s? We get no special treatment by Freepay so there is no reason for us to kiss their asses except to keep a rep here which I'm surprised sticks around with all you cry babies here. All you are doing is making this thred lamer than normal and pissing off people looking for real information.

Also, I'm sure thenameisjoe and my #1 fan are the same person since they are on eachothers' nuts and both are so clever they replace s's with $'s in the word ass shrug[/quote9698f16e6c]

Yet another worseless post by wolfman. How lame can you get. You ban me once again because your a fag and don't like the truth. I give you once again one minute until you respond because well all no you have no life and this is all you have going for yourself.

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 18:58:26

[quote16fb676545="wolfmansafag"][quote16fb676545="ilanbg"][quote16fb676545="wolfmanstillsucks"][quote16fb676545="ilanbg"]I for one can say I will be pretty ashamed if the day ever comes that I make new accounts with intents to do nothing more than mock another member...

Some people can be so fucking stupid, it's unbelievable.[/quote16fb676545]

Whats unbelievable is banning someone for telling the truth. Also Freepay not going under yet thats unbelievalble. Wolfman still kissing freepays and jakes a$$. Thats unbelievable.[/quote16fb676545]

My suggestion is that you leave. Your parents aren't dropping you off here every day on the way to work so gtfo.[/quote16fb676545]

My suggestion is you STFU and mind you own business. How about that.[/quote16fb676545]
Get a life, for real...

i blame history

05-04-2006 18:58:46

[quotea12fa1c881="ilanbg"]
My suggestion is that you leave. Your parents aren't dropping you off here every day on the way to work so gtfo.[/quotea12fa1c881]

actually, i would not be so sure of that!

someone just has a big case of PMS. he needs to not get his panties in a bundle, and stop crying. besides, children that act like that dont deserve gift cards, let alone expensive toys like xbox 360s... they will probably just fill the disk drive full of fruit loops and milk and cry when it will no longer work.

i just find it hard to take this guy seriously if he does not have the testicular fortitude to come out and say what he wants to say without playing dress up so nobody recognizes him.

edit all this talk of gay guys is about to make me start posting pictures. no porn, but i am a faghag that very much enjoys seeing men kissing each other. i dont want to have to unleash that upon this thread )

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 18:59:20

[quotef24dedeaba="wolfmansafag"][quotef24dedeaba="Wolfeman"]Your posts are so enlightening. I love how the guy thats too much of a pussy to post under his real name and a guy with 14 posts are saying they don't like it hear. How about leave? The mods here try to help as much as we can but lets say we all say FUCK FREEPAY! How does that change a damn thing? Does Freepay say, "oh no the mods are upset" and send out all the 360s? We get no special treatment by Freepay so there is no reason for us to kiss their asses except to keep a rep here which I'm surprised sticks around with all you cry babies here. All you are doing is making this thred lamer than normal and pissing off people looking for real information.

Also, I'm sure thenameisjoe and my #1 fan are the same person since they are on eachothers' nuts and both are so clever they replace s's with $'s in the word ass shrug[/quotef24dedeaba]

Yet another worseless post by wolfman. How lame can you get. You ban me once again because your a fag and don't like the truth. I give you once again one minute until you respond because well all no you have no life and this is all you have going for yourself.[/quotef24dedeaba]
What are you saying that is the "truth"? Why don't you post under your real name and have a civilized conversation?

Crynos

05-04-2006 19:17:55

So i went to target today and there were 3 premiums sitting in the case...Why wont they send gift cards anymore?

Wolfeman

05-04-2006 19:19:16

[quote1020d1aeb3="Crynos"]So i went to target today and there were 3 premiums sitting in the case...Why wont they send gift cards anymore?[/quote1020d1aeb3]
Not sure but maybe they are getting close to shipping the 360s shrug

Crynos

05-04-2006 19:30:31

[quotea092ff9aa7="Wolfeman"][quotea092ff9aa7="Crynos"]So i went to target today and there were 3 premiums sitting in the case...Why wont they send gift cards anymore?[/quotea092ff9aa7]
Not sure but maybe they are getting close to shipping the 360s shrug[/quotea092ff9aa7]Hopefully, so bummed i asked right as they removed that option (

ilanbg

05-04-2006 19:36:13

I'm still convinced it's that hundreds of users (both from giftcards.freepay and 360) cleaned out GC.com and we just need to wait for GC.com to restock.

jMuss

05-04-2006 20:15:49

Im thinking its so FreePay can send in an accurate order to their supplier. (Call me an optimist...)

CougarKid

05-04-2006 20:47:23

[quote3ba3b3f742="jMuss"]Im thinking its so FreePay can send in an accurate order to their supplier. (Call me an optimist...)[/quote3ba3b3f742]

Same thing I was thinking. Perhaps they just found the supplier and now they have no reason to have to send out GC's. Hope your more of a psychic then an optomist. lol

Menotti

05-04-2006 20:54:51

[quote4b8d97dd61="jMuss"]Im thinking its so FreePay can send in an accurate order to their supplier. (Call me an optimist...)[/quote4b8d97dd61]

Now that is the brightest prediction I've heard so far.

Let's hope it is true.

Jet05

05-04-2006 23:38:57

a friend of mine got a response from cs saying they cant send out anymore gc and that they are still awaiting microsoft to send out more xboxs

and they say to rest assure that we will get them

Menotti

06-04-2006 10:01:27

Hopefully an update today about 360 supply?

Menotti

06-04-2006 10:05:14

To note, Jake posted the following on the Anything4Free forums today
[quote3165f84643]For those waiting for 360s, if you want a $400 gift card in its place, I may be able to fulfill your order with one.

PM me with your email and account number. I will then forward it to my fulfillment department and I should be able to send some stuff out next week.[/quote3165f84643]

i blame history

06-04-2006 10:21:53

finally, an update. now what we hoped for, but its something!

"Due to Microsoft's extremely limited supply of the Xbox 360's, we are unable to fulfill our customer's Xbox 360 orders at this time. We are encouraged by Microsoft's recent announcement that they are increasing production. However, we are unable to provide an expected shipping date at this time. We apologize for this inconvenience and thank you for you continued patience while we continue to work hard to fulfill your orders as soon as possible."

good2speed

06-04-2006 10:23:06

[quote0c1286e52c="wolfmanstillsucks"][quote0c1286e52c="Wolfeman"][quote0c1286e52c="wolfemansucks"][quote0c1286e52c="Wolfeman"]Blah blah blah. If I hadn't gotten a giftcard I'd still be here saying just wait and quit crying...[/quote0c1286e52c]

What a freakin tool. Stay off this posts. This is for others who have not received anything and don't take it in the a$$ from Freepay like you do. Blah Blah Blah. Be your own man and take freepays you know what out of your mouth for a measly two seconds.[/quote0c1286e52c]
You aren't even good at making fun of someone. Tell you what, exit your mom's basement, tell your AOL girlfriend good bye, and go outside for a little while because you are taking this all too serious...[/quote0c1286e52c]

Oh I see you banned me. How lame can you be. Because you don't like what someone states you ban them and then get the last word in.

Do you have a life outside this forum. Everytime I make a post no matter what time of the day it is two seconds later you respond. Get a freakin life outside of the board. Go out and have a nice dinner with your boyfriend for once. It doesn't really matter. Just get off these boards for once.

Go ahead an ban me again . I could care less. I have a thousands of ip adds. I guess living in my moms basement has some good things. Just ban me and get your last word in two seconds later. You will still be a fag and still be have your mouth so far ups freepays a$$.[/quote0c1286e52c]

lol this guy is crazy. But funny as well. Just say whatever you have to say on your real name. I said something about Wolfe's mom yesterday in the NCCA thread and I'm still here.

Is this the first time someone has created a handle which clearly insults another FIG member.

Wolfeman

06-04-2006 10:25:43

Naw, its happened before...

Menotti

06-04-2006 12:43:30

Posted to the A4F forums by Jake today around 2ish

[quotedb7bd054ac]We are still operating, the business has not folded and we are still sending out free products. The main difference is that our volume of shipping has gone down a bit but we are still here.

I don't see why you shouldn't continue to finish the site.[/quotedb7bd054ac]

ilanbg

06-04-2006 14:15:20

(Please try to limit posts only if they're actually about the 360 situation. i.e. no flaming for everyone else's sake)

Any word on what those of us in STV can expect from Freepay? I assume, at the latest, that we'll get our orders with those making orders now, meaning we'll get the GCs sometime next week.

woohooafreeipod

06-04-2006 14:33:57

[quote9732ed8926="Jake"]Since you are STV, you do not have to re request. You will get the GC sometime next week. [/quote9732ed8926]

Thanks Jake. Everyone was going nuts with uncertainty here.

EasyAs456

06-04-2006 14:41:43

Hm that doesn't make any sense, I have yet to get my giftcard and Ive been STV, I e-mailed Customer service and I get this response back

Due to the overwhelming demand, we are unable to offer an exchange of the Xbox 360 that you earned for a $400 gift certificate. Please rest assured that you have been approved and will receive your product as soon as Microsoft can supply enough Xbox 360’s to meet high the demand. We cannot offer an expected due date at this time but we are encouraged by recent news reports that Microsoft is increasing their production capacity. We apologize for the inconvenience this has caused. Sincerely, The FreePay Customer Service Team

For some wierdo reason they said they were sending me one and then said this crap. I contacted Jake and he said he would have more information on Monday so let's see what happends. Im going to be pissed off if I have to wait more.

Processing since 5/24/05

Menotti

06-04-2006 17:50:34

Help page updated on the 360 site...

[quote2e10723a96]Due to Microsoft's extremely limited supply of the Xbox 360's, we are unable to fulfill our customer's Xbox 360 orders at this time. We are encouraged by Microsoft's recent announcement that they are increasing production. However, we are unable to provide an expected shipping date at this time. We apologize for this inconvenience and thank you for you continued patience while we continue to work hard to fulfill your orders as soon as possible. [/quote2e10723a96]

lovely

CollidgeGraduit

06-04-2006 18:32:01

[quote4e3d239823="Menotti"]Help page updated on the 360 site...

[quote4e3d239823]Due to Microsoft's extremely limited supply of the Xbox 360's, we are unable to fulfill our customer's Xbox 360 orders at this time. We are encouraged by Microsoft's recent announcement that they are increasing production. However, we are unable to provide an expected shipping date at this time. We apologize for this inconvenience and thank you for you continued patience while we continue to work hard to fulfill your orders as soon as possible. [/quote4e3d239823]

lovely[/quote4e3d239823]

So which is it.. do you want updates telling you that nothing has changed, or no updates at all?

h3x

06-04-2006 18:50:01

I'm STV too and Jake told me I'm not getting a GC.. The only thing I don't like about this situation is the constant change of statuses.. Processing -> Backordered -> Processing -> STV -> Processing -> STV -> ???

Menotti

06-04-2006 18:54:46

[quoteb3f9e28bcf="CollidgeGraduit"][quoteb3f9e28bcf="Menotti"]Help page updated on the 360 site...

[quoteb3f9e28bcf]Due to Microsoft's extremely limited supply of the Xbox 360's, we are unable to fulfill our customer's Xbox 360 orders at this time. We are encouraged by Microsoft's recent announcement that they are increasing production. However, we are unable to provide an expected shipping date at this time. We apologize for this inconvenience and thank you for you continued patience while we continue to work hard to fulfill your orders as soon as possible. [/quoteb3f9e28bcf]

lovely[/quoteb3f9e28bcf]

So which is it.. do you want updates telling you that nothing has changed, or no updates at all?[/quoteb3f9e28bcf]

touche, I do agree that my statement is contradictory to my previous requests. I should have been more specific in saying that I was hoping for Jake to give us more info than the generic stuff

CollidgeGraduit

06-04-2006 19:24:35

[quote7aba419ac1="Menotti"][quote7aba419ac1="CollidgeGraduit"][quote7aba419ac1="Menotti"]Help page updated on the 360 site...

[quote7aba419ac1]Due to Microsoft's extremely limited supply of the Xbox 360's, we are unable to fulfill our customer's Xbox 360 orders at this time. We are encouraged by Microsoft's recent announcement that they are increasing production. However, we are unable to provide an expected shipping date at this time. We apologize for this inconvenience and thank you for you continued patience while we continue to work hard to fulfill your orders as soon as possible. [/quote7aba419ac1]

lovely[/quote7aba419ac1]

So which is it.. do you want updates telling you that nothing has changed, or no updates at all?[/quote7aba419ac1]

touche, I do agree that my statement is contradictory to my previous requests. I should have been more specific in saying that I was hoping for Jake to give us more info than the generic stuff[/quote7aba419ac1]

I agree. Even though I'm not waiting for one, I am really looking forward to the 360 situation being resolved. These forums will be a lot less tense, and the folks at Freepay will be able to relax a bit too.

afro_wolff

07-04-2006 09:04:29

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phoebe7

07-04-2006 09:33:14

I checked XBox360tracker.com and Best Buy has 360s in stock online! I think that's good news. I hope either freepay can fulfill some more gift card orders so we can order them ourselves. Our maybe they can get a supply now.

egyptianruin

07-04-2006 09:38:07

And they have free shipping on it too. (at BBY)

jsw138

07-04-2006 10:01:17

I just put a XBox 360 on layaway at a local Walmart. Got until June 6 to pick it up. Just waiting for Freepay to send me a Super Certificate so I can use it a Walmart.

Menotti

07-04-2006 10:16:04

[quotea16ff81ed0="egyptianruin"]And they have free shipping on it too. (at BBY)[/quotea16ff81ed0]

I don't see free shipping. Seems to be $15

http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=999947300050001&ref=39&loc=01&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat66900050001&id=pcmprd47500050001

in any case, I hope this means that FreePay will be getting some more soon.

Any news Jake?

iamzim

07-04-2006 10:46:32

if you look at the bottom of the page where you can choose what to add to your cart it says free ground shipping on 360s games and accessories. (i'm sure it would kick in when you go to check out, but it still shows the $15 in the shopping cart)

If they can have 30 per BBY, and obviously a crapload for online, then i (as i've said before) fail to see how freepay cannot get any. Hopefully Jake'll have some good news in the near future.

(now i'm pissed that i didnt jump on the GC right when they offered it. I'd have my BBY GCs, and i'd be able to order it online, and still have .01 to spend at the store!)

Also...on a side note....Jake, do you know if there will be some sort of repceit, in case there is a defective unit?? I know this has been asked...but i'm not sure if it was ever answered.

Menotti

07-04-2006 11:40:47

I still don't see anything saying free shipping.

Odd

egyptianruin

07-04-2006 11:52:14

http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat87200050023&type=category[]http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat87200050023&type=category

But now that I look at it it might not consider the hardware as an accessory - I went all the way up to the point of paying and nothing. On the games it lists free shipping as well as accessories. Sorry bout that.

iamzim

07-04-2006 12:12:46

good catch egyptianruin, i guess the hardware isn't a game or accessory! ok, now i'm still glad i'm waiting. Hopefully we'll here something good on monday. (i always hope for good news on mondays)

Truxity.net

07-04-2006 12:38:23

Ahh!!! why couldn't we get the cards this week (
Oh well. As long as I'm getting the GC's next week I'll be coo. I just know they will be sold out online though by next week.

EasyAs456

07-04-2006 14:12:48

[quote0e36a16e99="jsw138"]I just put a XBox 360 on layaway at a local Walmart. Got until June 6 to pick it up. Just waiting for Freepay to send me a Super Certificate so I can use it a Walmart.[/quote0e36a16e99]

They aren't sending out Giftcertificates anymore man..

mykevermin

07-04-2006 14:16:06

[quote9d7ebad4c0="EasyAs456"][quote9d7ebad4c0="jsw138"]I just put a XBox 360 on layaway at a local Walmart. Got until June 6 to pick it up. Just waiting for Freepay to send me a Super Certificate so I can use it a Walmart.[/quote9d7ebad4c0]

They aren't sending out Giftcertificates anymore man..[/quote9d7ebad4c0]

If'n you're not gonna read the thread, don't start posting information like you have a clue what's going on.

CougarKid

07-04-2006 15:44:53

Awwe come on guys be nice. Let's get off the net for the weekend and get out. Then come Monday see if we get some new info.

Menotti

07-04-2006 22:34:34

[quotee0187a04db="CougarKid"]Awwe come on guys be nice. Let's get off the net for the weekend and get out. Then come Monday see if we get some new info.[/quotee0187a04db]

crossing my fingers for Monday (as usual) heh

champ2131

08-04-2006 10:34:42

[quotee845b82fc9="CougarKid"]Awwe come on guys be nice. Let's get off the net for the weekend and get out. Then come Monday see if we get some new info.[/quotee845b82fc9]

Yea...I'm just going to sit back w/ my wireless controller and play some Xbox 360 & wait.....

Menotti

08-04-2006 13:02:32

It would be pretty nice if we were able to get 4x$100 and 1x$25 gift cards to cover the tax of the machine

h3x

08-04-2006 17:34:25

Don't complain. Be grateful that they would give you $400.. You can pay the tax yourself (also tax rates vary from state-to-state).

Menotti

08-04-2006 18:04:03

[quotefe75f58970="h3x"]Don't complain. Be grateful that they would give you $400.. You can pay the tax yourself (also tax rates vary from state-to-state).[/quotefe75f58970]

I'm not complaining. I'm just saying it would be a nice customer service action to take. I'm paying 8.75% here so it would be pretty cool for them to do something like that.

plusnightlife

09-04-2006 01:01:26

is freepay giving out giftcards? i'm lost... they told me they weren't.

i would love to have a $400 card so i could go buy one myself. also, i don't know why freepay wouldn't do this -- it'd be a satisfied customer and it would save them shipping and handling costs. i'd even take the money over paypal if they could do that...

anybody have an answer for me?

CougarKid

09-04-2006 01:33:00

No more giftcards at this point.

Menotti

09-04-2006 10:35:44

[quote932b76f1c2="CougarKid"]No more giftcards at this point.[/quote932b76f1c2]

but Jake [i932b76f1c2]may[/i932b76f1c2] have some good news on Monday, he said. it's most likely about gift cards

ffactoryxx

09-04-2006 11:45:41

Well im getting my gc

CougarKid

09-04-2006 14:33:15

[quote3f268e610d="Menotti"][quote3f268e610d="CougarKid"]No more giftcards at this point.[/quote3f268e610d]

but Jake [i3f268e610d]may[/i3f268e610d] have some good news on Monday, he said. it's most likely about gift cards[/quote3f268e610d]

Perhaps about a shipment too.

Menotti

09-04-2006 15:10:38

[quote047aba3368="CougarKid"][quote047aba3368="Menotti"][quote047aba3368="CougarKid"]No more giftcards at this point.[/quote047aba3368]

but Jake [i047aba3368]may[/i047aba3368] have some good news on Monday, he said. it's most likely about gift cards[/quote047aba3368]

Perhaps about a shipment too.[/quote047aba3368]

I hope. But it is more likely about giftcards. Jake posted this to the A4F forums on Thursday
[quote047aba3368]For those waiting for 360s, if you want a $400 gift card in its place, I may be able to fulfill your order with one.

PM me with your email and account number. I will then forward it to my fulfillment department and I should be able to send some stuff out next week.[/quote047aba3368]

But a lot of us don't want giftcards! Hopefully, supply will be high enough to secure a large shipment. If stores like BBY want them first, though, they will get them first.

CougarKid

09-04-2006 15:35:06

Hopefully they do get a shipment. I don't want a GC. But if it's a must then so be it.

h3x

09-04-2006 15:50:07

Personally, I'd rather have the GC.. The only store that remotely sells electronics on the island (Wal-Mart) has them in stock. I figure, I'd just get the Core and save the rest the money for groceries. ?

Menotti

09-04-2006 23:22:14

Hopefully we can hear something good about giftcards AND the 360 supply! The shortage appears to be over in many areas, from what I've read on various forums.

h3x

09-04-2006 23:41:46

If its available on a rural island in Alaska... You know the shortage is over.

iamzim

10-04-2006 06:30:49

Waiting for that good news jake.... Hopefully it'll be about some actual 360's and not the GCs!!!

Menotti

10-04-2006 07:03:57

[quotef7747c8c43="iamzim"]Waiting for that good news jake.... Hopefully it'll be about some actual 360's and not the GCs!!![/quotef7747c8c43]

i second that

Brok3n_Sword

10-04-2006 07:15:15

The news is just going to be that those who were STV will now be receiving their giftcards. Nothing more, nothing less. Jake has done all he can for us, and there have been plenty of foreshadowing that this is all the "good news" will contain.

Menotti

10-04-2006 07:19:48

[quote0a2b53f3c4="Brok3n_Sword"]The news is just going to be that those who were STV will now be receiving their giftcards. Nothing more, nothing less. Jake has done all he can for us, and there have been plenty of foreshadowing that this is all the "good news" will contain.[/quote0a2b53f3c4]
actually, it's possible that [i0a2b53f3c4]new[/i0a2b53f3c4] orders of gift cards may be taken. but yea, we know this. it's just nice to hope.

iamzim

10-04-2006 07:24:15

^ Yep. Like I said last week, keeping my fingers crossed, but not holding my breath!

feisar

10-04-2006 09:34:19

Went STV this morning after PMing Jake late last week about a giftcard. Hopefully there will be SOME news this afternoon.

iamzim

10-04-2006 09:36:50

Lunch break! still waiting to hear SOMETHING from jake today (about the 360 supply, because I could care less about the GCs) anything jake? or should I just go sign up under Menotti, and go with trainn??

Menotti

10-04-2006 10:38:43

[quoteb4d1bc3a38="iamzim"]Lunch break! still waiting to hear SOMETHING from jake today (about the 360 supply, because I could care less about the GCs) anything jake? or should I just go sign up under Menotti, and go with trainn??[/quoteb4d1bc3a38]

ditto, I don't care for a giftcard. I would PM Jake asking about when the 360 supply is going to be available, but I'm thinking it'd be better if he just told everyone the progress.

ffactoryxx

10-04-2006 11:07:56

YEa hoping for gc as ive been stv since last monday

h3x

10-04-2006 11:16:46

I've been STV since the 28th or 29th of March ?

phoebe7

10-04-2006 11:24:11

I was processing over the weekend. Now I'm STV! I also PMed Jake last week about a gift card. He seems to be right on top of things. I really appreciate his efforts! Can't wait to get the gift card to get the XBox 360 for my boyfriend.

Menotti

10-04-2006 11:33:48

[quote70e6316fe8="phoebe7"]I was processing over the weekend. Now I'm STV! I also PMed Jake last week about a gift card. He seems to be right on top of things. I really appreciate his efforts! Can't wait to get the gift card to get the XBox 360 for my boyfriend.[/quote70e6316fe8]
I just wish they were on top of the actual unit supply situation ?

h3x

10-04-2006 11:40:39

[quote60553c40fd="Menotti"][quote60553c40fd="phoebe7"]I was processing over the weekend. Now I'm STV! I also PMed Jake last week about a gift card. He seems to be right on top of things. I really appreciate his efforts! Can't wait to get the gift card to get the XBox 360 for my boyfriend.[/quote60553c40fd]
I just wish they were on top of the actual unit supply situation ?[/quote60553c40fd]

So would I.. But if getting a GC is the fastest option; I will take it.

Truxity.net

10-04-2006 12:41:27

sigh This news is taking forever to come. I'm happy for those who just got on STV but what about us who have been on STV for the last 2 weeks? When can we expect the e-mail?

iamzim

10-04-2006 12:56:49

[quote0c67f69098="syk_skillz"]sigh This news is taking forever to come. I'm happy for those who just got on STV but what about us who have been on STV for the last 2 weeks? When can we expect the e-mail?[/quote0c67f69098]

And, for those of us waiting for the system....when can we expect an update???????

h3x

10-04-2006 13:15:38

416 PM in Washington DC... Jake is off the clock in about 45 minutes. Theres a small chance there will be no update today ?

Menotti

10-04-2006 14:29:36

[quoted3e6e8eb0a="h3x"]416 PM in Washington DC... Jake is off the clock in about 45 minutes. Theres a small chance there will be no update today ?[/quoted3e6e8eb0a]

530 EST. No update today about the actual units. Yeah, it sucks a lot.

h3x

10-04-2006 14:49:21

[quote56fdec5962="Menotti"][quote56fdec5962="h3x"]416 PM in Washington DC... Jake is off the clock in about 45 minutes. Theres a small chance there will be no update today ?[/quote56fdec5962]

530 EST. No update today about the actual units. Yeah, it sucks a lot.[/quote56fdec5962]

There wasn't supposed to be an update about actual units.. It was about the GCs (but then again, if they did update on GCs, theres a good chance there was some info about consoles)

Menotti

10-04-2006 18:33:46

[quote9a600c7dad="h3x"][quote9a600c7dad="Menotti"][quote9a600c7dad="h3x"]416 PM in Washington DC... Jake is off the clock in about 45 minutes. Theres a small chance there will be no update today ?[/quote9a600c7dad]

530 EST. No update today about the actual units. Yeah, it sucks a lot.[/quote9a600c7dad]

There wasn't supposed to be an update about actual units.. It was about the GCs (but then again, if they did update on GCs, theres a good chance there was some info about consoles)[/quote9a600c7dad]

Yeah, we were just hopin and hopin

iamzim

11-04-2006 05:01:08

Dear diary,

Today's date is approval + 141, my hopes of getting my 360 sometime this year are fading fast. All of my friends are laughing at me because they have 360's, and I'm waiting for a company that they all claim is a scam to send me my system. I keep telling them that I've recieved an ipod and a flatscreen from them, but they say "you got those back in 2004, what makes you think the company still cares about you in 2006?", and I'm starting to believe them. The only thing that can bring my hopes up is an update from a man named Jake. From what I've heard, he is a freepay rep, but I'm not sure of that either. My mind is so messed up right now that I don't know what to believe. I havent heard anything about a supply of 360's now for quite some time. Maybe today will be the day I hear something, but until then, I'll just sit in my cubicle and hope that one day (hopefully before the xbox 720 comes out) I'll have my 360!

KeithA

11-04-2006 05:40:25

^^^
Plus karma for creativity.

Menotti

11-04-2006 06:03:20

+ karma iamzim, that's a good one

Brok3n_Sword

11-04-2006 06:57:35

Maybe today is the day guyz!

ffactoryxx

11-04-2006 07:42:04

Well i mean wasnt there suppose to be an update yesterday or did i miss that?

Menotti

11-04-2006 07:51:41

[quote603b7ca6b8="ffactoryxx"]Well i mean wasnt there suppose to be an update yesterday or did i miss that?[/quote603b7ca6b8]

I don't believe there was any update stated to this forum, although some people reported going STV on giftcards.

Not that it helps those of us who just want the XBox

ffactoryxx

11-04-2006 08:05:46

Yea ive been stv on giftcards for almost 1.5 weeks and will take them as i have $300 from the giftcards freepay site. I can get myself the 360 and some games and maybe even sign up for my own personal dsl line for online play

Menotti

11-04-2006 08:08:07

[quotef03f35207e="ffactoryxx"]Yea ive been stv on giftcards for almost 1.5 weeks and will take them as i have $300 from the giftcards freepay site. I can get myself the 360 and some games and maybe even sign up for my own personal dsl line for online play[/quotef03f35207e]

I lithinkli some people went STV on giftcards yesterday. In any case, I don't have any GCs to use to put towards the 360 and I'd really like the system from FreePay so I'm not subject to 8.75% tax here.

Come on, Jake! You can do it! Let's see that update about giftcards AND the 360 supply!

michae229

11-04-2006 09:28:31

i know everyone is fully stocked now

iamzim

11-04-2006 10:07:14

update In the east of Cleveland Ohio area yesterday

Walmart 4 core 3 premium
EB Games 4 core 8 premium
Target 3 core 3 premium
Bestbuy (I'm sure a lot more, but It wasn't in the same area as walmart, target and eb games!)

FREEPAY ZERO (that i know of)

iamzim 0 premium

There's something wrong with this picture.....

Jake

11-04-2006 11:37:49

The gift card decision is still pending and I am still waiting for some word from our electronics vendor regarding the units themselves.

ffactoryxx

11-04-2006 11:48:05

[quote4e9659b217="Jake"]The gift card decision is still pending and I am still waiting for some word from our electronics vendor regarding the units themselves.[/quote4e9659b217]

Whats holding up the decision???

i blame history

11-04-2006 12:10:12

[quote288a61ef5c="Jake"]The gift card decision is still pending and I am still waiting for some word from our electronics vendor regarding the units themselves.[/quote288a61ef5c]

awesome. thanks for the update!

iamzim

11-04-2006 12:32:41

THANK YOU JAKE!!!!!!!! keep us posted!

Menotti

11-04-2006 12:34:03

[quote648938dcf1="Jake"]The gift card decision is still pending and I am still waiting for some word from our electronics vendor regarding the units themselves.[/quote648938dcf1]

Thank you for the update. Better to say you're waiting - it at least shows that you guys are alive over there!

thenameisjoe

11-04-2006 12:50:16

wait so I moved to STV yesterday and the giftcards are still pending?

great...

ffactoryxx

11-04-2006 13:00:59

In all seriousness. They have the worst business plan over there. I mean people take forever to do the simplest shit over there. Not directed at you Jake just your superiors who need to get thier shit straight and start getting on the ball

Truxity.net

11-04-2006 13:19:47

[quotea9e53153f0="Jake"][ba9e53153f0]The gift card decision is still pending[/ba9e53153f0] and I am still waiting for some word from our electronics vendor regarding the units themselves.[/quotea9e53153f0]

WTF! I hope it goes through and soon. I put my original Xbox on ebay and have people watching it. I thought it was a sure thing we were getting the cards.

ffactoryxx

11-04-2006 13:21:18

[quotec251ad0e17="syk_skillz"][quotec251ad0e17="Jake"][bc251ad0e17]The gift card decision is still pending[/bc251ad0e17] and I am still waiting for some word from our electronics vendor regarding the units themselves.[/quotec251ad0e17]

WTF! I hope it goes through and soon. I put my original Xbox on ebay and have people watching it. I thought it was a sure thing we were getting the cards.[/quotec251ad0e17]

Come on. That would have been too easy. Its gotta be a long hard process to get the cards. We'll see. Thier was suppose to be info yesterday. Still nothing today

CougarKid

11-04-2006 13:22:15

Thank for the update Jake. All we ask for.

ffactoryxx

11-04-2006 14:16:39

im guessing there is no answer again today other than the usual we are working on it

Menotti

11-04-2006 14:20:45

[quote37a6083b5a="ffactoryxx"]In all seriousness. They have the worst business plan over there. I mean people take forever to do the simplest shit over there. Not directed at you Jake just your superiors who need to get thier shit straight and start getting on the ball[/quote37a6083b5a]

Yeah, it does take a long while to hear anything out of that place.

[b37a6083b5a]Could you imagine if you placed your 360 order and didn't know about FiPG or A4F? The weeklong customer service turnaround time for a generic answer would be killin me.[/b37a6083b5a]

ffactoryxx

11-04-2006 14:29:02

Tell me about it. I bet tons of people will never do these sites again because of that and the fact that they dont know of a4f or fipg

good2speed

11-04-2006 15:08:06

[quote1b52ccfb1a="ffactoryxx"]Tell me about it. I bet tons of people will never do these sites again because of that and the fact that they dont know of a4f or fipg[/quote1b52ccfb1a]

I know about these forums and just hope I get my xbox 360 from freepay. I've been patient enough but you guys are right their cs sucks and Jake himself doesn't even have any answers for us. I don't plan on doing any Freepay sites again bc

they have a serious legal battle in their future. Not sure how freepay plans to pay for legal and punitive charges but other companies usually pass the charges onto their customers by increasing prices for products.

Dont want to speculate too much but it does seem like Freepay go downhill. There is no way Freepay can pass the charge onto the customer while remaining competive with similar incentive based sites. Jake's absence for extended periods of time re enforce this idea of feepay stallng and not being a grade A service.

Menotti

11-04-2006 15:16:39

[quoteb092960244="good2speed"][quoteb092960244="ffactoryxx"]Tell me about it. I bet tons of people will never do these sites again because of that and the fact that they dont know of a4f or fipg[/quoteb092960244]

they have a serious legal battle in their future. Not sure how freepay plans to pay for legal and punitive charges but other companies usually pass the charges onto their customers by increasing prices for products.
[/quoteb092960244]

One way to do it is to increase the # of required completions. I've heard a rumor that the 360 now requires 10 completions?

Menotti

11-04-2006 15:21:08

[quoteb98be42391="good2speed"][quoteb98be42391="ffactoryxx"]Tell me about it. I bet tons of people will never do these sites again because of that and the fact that they dont know of a4f or fipg[/quoteb98be42391]

Jake's absence for extended periods of time re enforce this idea of feepay stallng and not being a grade A service.[/quoteb98be42391]

I do hope that he isn't around that much because he is working hard to get some things done.

However, I'm not sure I believe this in my heart. Remember when people went on Backorder and Jake was told to basically stall the information about the MusicNow offer problems? I feel like he may be in the same situation here - superiors asking him to do something he may not feel is right.

good2speed

11-04-2006 15:27:31

[quotee6a5fb1ab3="Menotti"][quotee6a5fb1ab3="good2speed"][quotee6a5fb1ab3="ffactoryxx"]Tell me about it. I bet tons of people will never do these sites again because of that and the fact that they dont know of a4f or fipg[/quotee6a5fb1ab3]

Jake's absence for extended periods of time re enforce this idea of feepay stallng and not being a grade A service.[/quotee6a5fb1ab3]

I do hope that he isn't around that much because he is working hard to get some things done.

However, I'm not sure I believe this in my heart. Remember when people went on Backorder and Jake was told to basically stall the information about the MusicNow offer problems? I feel like he may be in the same situation here - superiors asking him to do something he may not feel is right.[/quotee6a5fb1ab3]

doubtful when you consider he still posts in off topic.

Menotti

11-04-2006 15:37:38

[quoteaa4a3b1539="good2speed"][quoteaa4a3b1539="Menotti"][quoteaa4a3b1539="good2speed"][quoteaa4a3b1539="ffactoryxx"]Tell me about it. I bet tons of people will never do these sites again because of that and the fact that they dont know of a4f or fipg[/quoteaa4a3b1539]

Jake's absence for extended periods of time re enforce this idea of feepay stallng and not being a grade A service.[/quoteaa4a3b1539]

I do hope that he isn't around that much because he is working hard to get some things done.

However, I'm not sure I believe this in my heart. Remember when people went on Backorder and Jake was told to basically stall the information about the MusicNow offer problems? I feel like he may be in the same situation here - superiors asking him to do something he may not feel is right.[/quoteaa4a3b1539]

doubtful when you consider he still posts in off topic.[/quoteaa4a3b1539]

Well, to his credit, he's posted 6 items in Freepay Site Discussion and 4 in OffTopic since yesterday morning.

However, I really wish the posts relating to his company were more insightful. "We're waiting to hear from our supplier" is nice - and I am glad that at least we heard [iaa4a3b1539]something[/iaa4a3b1539] today, but it'd be nice for it to have some substance. I know, I asked earlier for something - anything - but as a suggestion for the future, let us know info like "We contacted our supplier this morning and they told us that they may know about the supply status as early as ..." rather than simply saying that we're waiting for the word.

I know, I can't have my cake and eat it, too. But, it's been almost 5 months since release of this system and it seems the supply shortages are almost done. So, please excuse my ranting.

h3x

11-04-2006 16:48:36

I'm glad Jake gave us some details.. The only major beef I have with FreePay is the new Approval Forms we have to fill out and send.. Not techincally free if you include the postage stamp and certified mail P

oneill2004uk

11-04-2006 17:13:26

[quote17bd3c60a2]One way to do it is to increase the # of required completions. I've heard a rumor that the 360 now requires 10 completions?[/quote17bd3c60a2]

Menotti, these aren't rumours about need 10 refs to complete xbox360s.freepay its a fact i'm from the uk and we need 10 refs lol
you americans only need 8 its a joke you got it easy lol

Menotti

11-04-2006 18:17:04

[quote98b4d09726="oneill2004uk"][quote98b4d09726]One way to do it is to increase the # of required completions. I've heard a rumor that the 360 now requires 10 completions?[/quote98b4d09726]

Menotti, these aren't rumours about need 10 refs to complete xbox360s.freepay its a fact i'm from the uk and we need 10 refs lol
you americans only need 8 its a joke you got it easy lol[/quote98b4d09726]

maybe all americans need 10 now, too. can anyone confirm?

iamzim

12-04-2006 04:19:50

.....approval + 142.... another 40.5 days and it'll be a half of a year!!! I think FP needs to find some better suppliers. As I said yesterday, I can go into ANY store that sells electronics (i even saw a few at a radioshack and microcenter yesterday!) and pick up a 360. How is your supplier somehow out of the loop?? or are you guys over at FP still waiting for a shippment of 8000 units?? /me wonders....up to what date is trainn shipped to now? slow and steady wins the race...

tomraffe

12-04-2006 07:26:14

Im in the UK and asked Jake to substitue my 360 order for a digital camera or giftcard. As getting an XBOX looks unlikely in the near future and the requirements (10 refs) was the same I thought this was a reasonable proposal, but he said no. Which sucks.

Menotti

12-04-2006 07:28:05

Yeah I'm really starting to question this whole "short supply" deal. Jake said that they are still in short supply in many parts of the country. Not sure where their supplier is located, but it seems that lots of major metros are not having trouble with these units.

An update would be appreciated, Jake. We need answers to this.

Menotti

12-04-2006 07:30:01

I'd also like to say I submitted a CS ticket on 4/5 with no response.

[b581cc2c111]If I was a regular user who completed this site and did not know about FiPG or A4F, I would be even more upset about this. That kind of turnaround is quite high, especially if the user didn't go to lengths to find forums like this.[/b581cc2c111]

tomraffe

12-04-2006 07:32:24

Not alot of trouble getting the units in the UK either.

Menotti

12-04-2006 08:44:15

[b52dceb8381]Forgive me for the simplicity of this analysis. The real situation is probably more complicated.[/b52dceb8381]

[u52dceb8381]Let’s look at what has happened so far[/u52dceb8381]
1. FreePay users were completing the 360 site during summer 2005.
2. The 360 was released on November 22.
3. FreePay, up to this point, has maintained that their supplier has not been able to fulfill their order(s) of 360s.
4. FreePay has maintained that they do not wish to send units out in small quantities at a time. That is, they want to get a large lot of the units and then send them out.
5. Some users requested GiftCards and did receive them. Some requested them and did not. The GiftCard situation is yet to be resolved / updated.
6. Users who are not lucky enough to know about FiPG / A4F or another freebie forum would not know about item 4 or 5.
7. FreePay has an upcoming court date for selling users’ information.

[b52dceb8381]Anyone disagree with that abridged version of what happened?[/b52dceb8381]

[u52dceb8381]Now, let’s make some assumptions[/u52dceb8381]
1. FreePay is a freebie provider that has 1 or more electronics supplier that they use / trust.
2. By the release date, FreePay had an idea of at least part of the volume they would need to order. Say that they had 10000 completions by November 22, you’d imagine they’d keep their electronics supplier in the loop.
3. Orders continue to come in to this day. You’d imagine they’d keep their electronics supplier in the loop.
4. [b52dceb8381]It’s been almost 5 months since release.[/b52dceb8381] The shortages seem to be close to / are over.

[u52dceb8381]Now, this is what you’d imagine / hope FreePay is doing[/u52dceb8381]
1. Keeping tight and constant communication with their current supplier(s).
2. Constantly seeking out new suppliers.
3. Constantly seeking alternative methods of order fulfillment.

[u52dceb8381]Now, let’s look at what they’ve done / what it seems like they’re doing[/u52dceb8381]
1. Weeklong or longer customer service response turnaround time. This is bad for users who do not browse freebie forums such as this one.
2. Provided very little information regarding the aforementioned issues. Whether it be on the FreePay site itself or with the customer service rep on here and A4F. This is not to say it is Jake’s fault. He may have little information from his fellow employees or he may have been put on gag order for a large portion of this situation.
3. Because of this lack of info passed on from the company to the consumer, it seems like they are contacting their supplier once a day and hoping they reply soon.

Obviously, if FreePay is having [b52dceb8381]true supplier issues[/b52dceb8381] and are working diligently to correct them, [b52dceb8381]I applaud that[/b52dceb8381]. However, by not having their CS rep tell us much and by not updating their site with any non-generic information, they are creating the idea that they are stalling.

I do not want to believe that this is true, and I believe that Jake has said on here or on A4F that FreePay is not shutting down / stalling, but as the days go by, we have less reason to believe otherwise.

/rant off

tomraffe

12-04-2006 08:52:43

WAHOO!

KeithA

12-04-2006 09:41:35

I opted for the gift cards early on. Went to Best Buy today to pick up a 360 and--you guessed it--they're out of stock. Dammit.

Truxity.net

12-04-2006 09:45:38

Any news Jake on when the GiftCards for us on STV will be shipped/E-Mailed?
http//smileys.smileycentral.com/cat/36/36_1_50.gif[" alt=""/imgbb9083077d]

Menotti

12-04-2006 13:34:37

As the days go by.......

egyptianruin

12-04-2006 13:37:29

[quote22b0f78d19="KeithA"]I opted for the gift cards early on. Went to Best Buy today to pick up a 360 and--you guessed it--they're out of stock. Dammit.[/quote22b0f78d19]

They have them in stock online...

Best Buy 360's[=http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=999947300050001&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat66900050001&id=pcmprd47500050001]Best Buy 360's

Menotti

12-04-2006 13:40:42

I'd like to note that Jake only made 1 post today, and it was responding to a joke / offtopic type thread.

I'm just saying that if you were gonna make one while you're working, it might benefit us all for it to be related to the company you work for.

We sit here asking questions and wondering if FreePay is even moving on anything - and days go by and we get few/generic to no answers.

h3x

12-04-2006 13:40:45

They sold out last night and have more in stock the very next day.. shock

ffactoryxx

12-04-2006 13:45:26

Yea seriously. Lets get a good update. I mean this is ridiculous

KeithA

12-04-2006 13:48:31

[quote56f2cb4093="egyptianruin"][quote56f2cb4093="KeithA"]I opted for the gift cards early on. Went to Best Buy today to pick up a 360 and--you guessed it--they're out of stock. Dammit.[/quote56f2cb4093]

They have them in stock online...

Best Buy 360's[=http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=999947300050001&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat66900050001&id=pcmprd47500050001]Best Buy 360's[/quote56f2cb4093]

Thank you. I saw that, but I'd rather not wait AND pay for shipping. There's a store not too far away that has 18 in stock, so I'm headed there... D

Wolfeman

12-04-2006 13:49:21

[quote6cb943be13="KeithA"][quote6cb943be13="egyptianruin"][quote6cb943be13="KeithA"]I opted for the gift cards early on. Went to Best Buy today to pick up a 360 and--you guessed it--they're out of stock. Dammit.[/quote6cb943be13]

They have them in stock online...

Best Buy 360's[=http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=999947300050001&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat66900050001&id=pcmprd47500050001]Best Buy 360's[/quote6cb943be13]

Thank you. I saw that, but I'd rather not wait AND pay for shipping. There's a store not too far away that has 18 in stock, so I'm headed there... D[/quote6cb943be13]
Make sure to pick up Ghost Recon too...

egyptianruin

12-04-2006 14:04:01

[quote4ea81ad18a="Wolfeman"][quote4ea81ad18a="KeithA"][quote4ea81ad18a="egyptianruin"][quote4ea81ad18a="KeithA"]I opted for the gift cards early on. Went to Best Buy today to pick up a 360 and--you guessed it--they're out of stock. Dammit.[/quote4ea81ad18a]

They have them in stock online...

Best Buy 360's[=http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?skuId=999947300050001&type=product&productCategoryId=pcmcat66900050001&id=pcmprd47500050001]Best Buy 360's[/quote4ea81ad18a]

Thank you. I saw that, but I'd rather not wait AND pay for shipping. There's a store not too far away that has 18 in stock, so I'm headed there... D[/quote4ea81ad18a]
Make sure to pick up Ghost Recon too...[/quote4ea81ad18a]

Or you can buy it from me for $35 bucks, lol. Ghost Recon that is...

Menotti

12-04-2006 14:39:29

[quote8b40d49bf7="ffactoryxx"]Yea seriously. Lets get a good update. I mean this is ridiculous[/quote8b40d49bf7]

[b8b40d49bf7]AGREED[/b8b40d49bf7]

Just to note, this is the 1 post Jake made today. Jake is a cool guy and all and I hope that his lack of activity here and on A4F is being forced on him by his superiors rather than just ignoring us.

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=378978&highlight=#378978

Either way, this whole situation is an absolute joke. Most of the info we get from Jake / FP is a lie, a stretch of the truth, a fabrication, etc. See an update about GiftCards on Monday? Nope. You claim you're waiting to hear from your electronics supplier for your actual units? [b8b40d49bf7]What - FreePay sends em an email every other day and waits?[/b8b40d49bf7]

How about you giving us some idea about your progress rather than [i8b40d49bf7]"we're workin on it?"[/i8b40d49bf7]
Is it because [u8b40d49bf7]there is or won't be any progress[/u8b40d49bf7]? All it takes is a simple post - once per day - updating us on what you're doing to get your users what they've earned. [b8b40d49bf7]It's common sense customer service.[/b8b40d49bf7]

Any legit business could not function like this. If FreePay was a brick-and-mortar, people would be going nuts - [b8b40d49bf7]in person[/b8b40d49bf7] - over customer service like this.

CougarKid

12-04-2006 14:46:05

He has nothing to give us today. We've been patient all this time. Let's see if we can keep it going.

Menotti

12-04-2006 14:48:09

[quote16737ac169="CougarKid"]He has nothing to give us today. We've been patient all this time. Let's see if we can keep it going.[/quote16737ac169]

I agree with the fact we've been patient for a while and it'd be admirable to keep the patience up. But are we supposed to be patient as we see units in stock all over the country? Are we supposed to be patient when we are told we are getting updates and get nothing or next to nothing?

While I understand your position, it's getting to the point where our patience is a big privilege to FreePay, and they aren't deserving it right now.

skillet2003

12-04-2006 15:21:04

i could care less when i actually would receive my 360, however as of the problems of late i belive freepay is not going to be sending out anything due to this issue of selling our info to 3rd parties. thats what is pissing me off the most.

Wolfeman

12-04-2006 15:23:13

[quote5138b4197b="skillet2003"]i could care less when i actually would receive my 360, however as of the problems of late i belive freepay is not going to be sending out anything due to this issue of selling our info to 3rd parties. thats what is pissing me off the most.[/quote5138b4197b]
Cases like these take years to go to trial, let alone be fully resolved. It really doesn't have much to do with this IMO...

Menotti

12-04-2006 15:39:07

[quote1e84aaf86e="Wolfeman"][quote1e84aaf86e="skillet2003"]i could care less when i actually would receive my 360, however as of the problems of late i belive freepay is not going to be sending out anything due to this issue of selling our info to 3rd parties. thats what is pissing me off the most.[/quote1e84aaf86e]
Cases like these take years to go to trial, let alone be fully resolved. It really doesn't have much to do with this IMO...[/quote1e84aaf86e]

I agree. They [b1e84aaf86e]are[/b1e84aaf86e] dropping the ball somewhere else, though.

mykevermin

12-04-2006 19:42:33

[quote70ec75a3f9="Wolfeman"]Cases like these take years to go to trial.[/quote70ec75a3f9]
So that doesn't explain the 4/21 date that people keep crowing about. Though, to be fair, I haven't seen any reasonable sources citing that date as the start of anything.

Wolfeman

12-04-2006 19:45:04

[quote98a4dbbd74="mykevermin"][quote98a4dbbd74="Wolfeman"]Cases like these take years to go to trial.[/quote98a4dbbd74]
So that doesn't explain the 4/21 date that people keep crowing about. Though, to be fair, I haven't seen any reasonable sources citing that date as the start of anything.[/quote98a4dbbd74]
Its the date they are going to court but it isn't the start of a trial. Its a pre-tiral hearing. People are alarmists sometimes...

Menotti

12-04-2006 22:35:57

[quote4cc7054ca3="Wolfeman"][quote4cc7054ca3="mykevermin"][quote4cc7054ca3="Wolfeman"]Cases like these take years to go to trial.[/quote4cc7054ca3]
So that doesn't explain the 4/21 date that people keep crowing about. Though, to be fair, I haven't seen any reasonable sources citing that date as the start of anything.[/quote4cc7054ca3]
Its the date they are going to court but it isn't the start of a trial. Its a pre-tiral hearing. People are alarmists sometimes...[/quote4cc7054ca3]

Can't blame em for feeling that way considering the way that FP has handled the situation with GCs and 360 units.

Menotti

13-04-2006 08:03:15

Come on let's see an update today

mykevermin

13-04-2006 08:19:45

[quote23190ef737="Menotti"]Come on let's see an update today[/quote23190ef737]

Dude. When are you gonna learn?

Menotti

13-04-2006 08:28:23

[quoted67f35dd28="mykevermin"][quoted67f35dd28="Menotti"]Come on let's see an update today[/quoted67f35dd28]

Dude. When are you gonna learn?[/quoted67f35dd28]

Learn that we're never gonna get a legit update? I think I've learned that by now. The real question is when am I to lose hope? lol

joking joking...please excuse the cynicism

junkie06

13-04-2006 12:25:25

[quote847f03f032="Menotti"][quote847f03f032="mykevermin"][quote847f03f032="Menotti"]Come on let's see an update today[/quote847f03f032]

Dude. When are you gonna learn?[/quote847f03f032]

Learn that we're never gonna get a legit update? I think I've learned that by now. The real question is when am I to lose hope? lol

joking joking...please excuse the cynicism[/quote847f03f032] lol

Menotti

13-04-2006 12:35:50

Looks like we're gonna be waiting for Monday again. Oh well

mykevermin

13-04-2006 16:15:29

Now I know what those women who cling to assholes for years at a time, telling themselves every morning, "TODAY will be the day he proposes to me!," feel like. And, more importantly, why they have no self esteem.

junkie06

13-04-2006 16:17:31

LMAO

Menotti

13-04-2006 19:18:50

[quote4768e09489="mykevermin"]Now I know what those women who cling to assholes for years at a time, telling themselves every morning, "TODAY will be the day he proposes to me!," feel like. And, more importantly, why they have no self esteem.[/quote4768e09489]

Haha that is an amazing analogy. FreePay is that clown that just won't propose to us wives. lol +karma

h3x

13-04-2006 22:43:11

[quote25eae7a4b1="Menotti"]Looks like we're gonna be waiting for Monday again. Oh well[/quote25eae7a4b1]

Monday? Why? Tommorow is Friday.

kdollar

13-04-2006 22:54:09

[quote63e8f70cbe="h3x"][quote63e8f70cbe="Menotti"]Looks like we're gonna be waiting for Monday again. Oh well[/quote63e8f70cbe]

Monday? Why? Tommorow is Friday.[/quote63e8f70cbe]

possible holiday, its good friday

luckycat

14-04-2006 05:13:41

[quote46fb3b8e58="kdollar"][quote46fb3b8e58="h3x"][quote46fb3b8e58="Menotti"]Looks like we're gonna be waiting for Monday again. Oh well[/quote46fb3b8e58]

Monday? Why? Tommorow is Friday.[/quote46fb3b8e58]

possible holiday, its good friday[/quote46fb3b8e58]

lol Well I try to remain optimistic, but it is getting hard... with xbox360s seemingly in fairly plentiful supply locally, but still no word on either gcs or the boxes I'm starting to lose faith in fp, even though they have delivered for me in the past.

Menotti

14-04-2006 09:29:12

[quotea2dc9ea5ea="h3x"][quotea2dc9ea5ea="Menotti"]Looks like we're gonna be waiting for Monday again. Oh well[/quotea2dc9ea5ea]

Monday? Why? Tommorow is Friday.[/quotea2dc9ea5ea]

Well Jake has logged in today, perhaps they are open. I'm not optimistic for an update, though.

iamzim

14-04-2006 09:46:00

Yay!!!! almost time for another weekend. Time for me to go to my local stores, and stare at their multitude of 360's and wonder WTF is going on with FP's supply!! Then i'll probably go home and play on my xbox, and look at all my friends gamertags as they appear online....only...they'll be playing COD2 on their 360's, and i'll just be looking at the (original) xbox's live dashboard.

mykevermin

14-04-2006 10:23:49

[quotefe80392767="Menotti"][quotefe80392767="h3x"][quotefe80392767="Menotti"]Looks like we're gonna be waiting for Monday again. Oh well[/quotefe80392767]

Monday? Why? Tommorow is Friday.[/quotefe80392767]

Well Jake has logged in today, perhaps they are open. I'm not optimistic for an update, though.[/quotefe80392767]

You don't work in an office, do you? NOTHING gets done on Fridays, with the exception of 90 minutes lunches, 7 or so 15-minute breaks, and plans for where people plan on getting hammered that evening.

If you're in college, think of what your classes look like on Fridays. Dismally and sparsely attended. Everyone is either recovering from the night before (Thursday liisli the official start of the weekend), or they just don't fucking care, because it's Friday.

The short version don't expect anything to ever happen on a Friday.

iamzim

14-04-2006 10:45:41

^ HAHA!!!! half of my office left after lunch with emails saying..."i'm taking the rest of the day off" or saying that they're working from home till 5! I love fridays! )

Menotti

14-04-2006 11:15:34

[quote618f1e0a0f="mykevermin"][quote618f1e0a0f="Menotti"][quote618f1e0a0f="h3x"][quote618f1e0a0f="Menotti"]Looks like we're gonna be waiting for Monday again. Oh well[/quote618f1e0a0f]

Monday? Why? Tommorow is Friday.[/quote618f1e0a0f]

Well Jake has logged in today, perhaps they are open. I'm not optimistic for an update, though.[/quote618f1e0a0f]

You don't work in an office, do you? NOTHING gets done on Fridays, with the exception of 90 minutes lunches, 7 or so 15-minute breaks, and plans for where people plan on getting hammered that evening.

If you're in college, think of what your classes look like on Fridays. Dismally and sparsely attended. Everyone is either recovering from the night before (Thursday liisli the official start of the weekend), or they just don't fucking care, because it's Friday.

The short version don't expect anything to ever happen on a Friday.[/quote618f1e0a0f]

Hence me saying I wasn't optimistic, heh. Just because a place is operating doesn't mean anything is getting done.

nickman

14-04-2006 11:51:03

I got approved for laptops... on a Friday.

Menotti

14-04-2006 13:08:21

[quote9ce0ca1ef1="nickman"]I got approved for laptops... on a Friday.[/quote9ce0ca1ef1]

too bad approved doesnt = STV and laptops doesnt = Xbox360 lol

Menotti

14-04-2006 14:50:21

Just to note a few things about this short supply.

Amazon has them in stock
http//www.amazon.com/gp/product/B000B43OY4/ref=nosim/104-4275901-9687166?n=468642

Newegg has them in stock
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16874100001

3 Circuit Citys near my house have them, among others
http//www.circuitcity.com/ccd/howToGetItTab.do?c=1&zip=11735&oid=137824&userClick=&showMoreStores=true&originURLEncoded=#tabs

Now, I know FreePay is probably having to fulfill many, many orders, but you can basically trip over these units in every store. Let's hope we hear something good soon - about GiftCards and the units themselves. It's just such a sad situation.

Ever day, we're seeing more and more customers talk about going to media / filing class action. Obviously, it would be a little early to go to that length, but as the days go by, it becomes more viable for many people. Crossing my fingers that they take care of this before it has to get to that point.

Menotti

14-04-2006 14:51:44

Also, I'm not sure if this has been posted elsewhere, but for the record
(from http//www.gratisinternet.com/pressroom.html#[]http//www.gratisinternet.com/pressroom.html#)

[quote4fb8b8b2ac]

Gratis Internet Company Statement

Allegations made by the New York State Office of the Attorney General that Gratis Internet "sold" email addresses to Datran Media or other companies, and/or that these companies "purchased" personal user information from Gratis Internet are completely untrue.

Here are the facts Starting in June 2004, for a period of approximately six months, Gratis hired list management firm Datran Media to manage the logistics of marketing products and services via email to Gratis' own user base. After Gratis ended the contract with Datran at the end of 2004, Gratis briefly worked with two other list management companies, JDR and Jumpstart. These list management firms oversaw creative design and back-office support for Gratis' email marketing operations. The companies acted on Gratis' behalf to send promotional emails to its own users, and at no time ever engaged in a sale or purchase of data.

Appointing a specialized vendor to manage such "in house" marketing operations is a commonplace, industry-wide practice. It is analogous, for example, to a retailer outsourcing the logistics of a direct mail campaign to a vendor who creates the graphics, manages the mailing, and interfaces directly with the advertisers the retailer is promoting. The party designing those direct mail pieces, mailing them to consumers, and handling consumer responses is not the retailer - it is a vendor appointed by the retailer to manage that process, part of which involves the retailer giving the vendor access to the addresses of its customers. That's what happened here (between Gratis and its list managers) and it is a standard and totally lawful practice.

At all times, Gratis has maintained control and ownership of its user information and never, not once, profited from any sale of data. After Gratis ceased using Datran's services in December 2004, Datran (as they were contractually obliged) no longer had any access to any of Gratis' user data.

Gratis at no time in its history ever sold its list to anyone or allowed a company to purchase consumer data, nor has it ever considered doing so, nor will it ever in the future. Email marketing represented a small fraction (less than 1.5%) of its 2004 and 2005 revenues, and the company earned less than $35,000 from users in the state of New York from its practice of sending promotional emails.

Establishing and maintaining a bond of trust between Gratis and consumers is a cornerstone of its business. Gratis believes that its impressive growth in recent years is a direct reflection of the fact that, in all its dealings with consumers, the company has behaved in a trustworthy and responsible manner at all times and in all ways.
[/quote4fb8b8b2ac]

woohooafreeipod

14-04-2006 17:56:28

[quotefd4bff476b]
...
Establishing and maintaining a bond of trust between Gratis and consumers is a cornerstone of its business. Gratis believes that its impressive growth in recent years is a direct reflection of the fact that, in all its dealings with consumers, [ifd4bff476b][bfd4bff476b]the company has behaved in a trustworthy and responsible manner at all times and in all ways[/bfd4bff476b][/ifd4bff476b].
[/quotefd4bff476b]

Apparently not so, because the trust that people have placed on them has been diminishing day by day with their excuse about the availability of the Xbox 360s. Taking 6+ weeks to approve people also hurts their trustworthyness.

Menotti

14-04-2006 23:27:21

I have Fight Night Round 3 and NBA26K coming in from YourFree360games! Hopefully I'll soon have a system to play em on.

special k

15-04-2006 05:53:25

[quoteff95784650="Menotti"]I have Fight Night Round 3 and NBA26K coming in from YourFree360games! Hopefully I'll soon have a system to play em on.[/quoteff95784650]
I feel you, I just ordered fight night as well from yourfree360games, and am just waiting on freepay. I already have 2k6 for ps2

Truxity.net

15-04-2006 07:01:02

I've had NBA26K since release thinking that I'd have my 360 by now. Freepay is really screwing up. I don't even go to any store with electronics section anymore because they advertise that they have them in while Freepay is holding on to what they owe me. evil

good2speed

15-04-2006 08:14:24

[quoteb077460c16="mykevermin"][quoteb077460c16="Menotti"][quoteb077460c16="h3x"][quoteb077460c16="Menotti"]Looks like we're gonna be waiting for Monday again. Oh well[/quoteb077460c16]

Monday? Why? Tommorow is Friday.[/quoteb077460c16]

Well Jake has logged in today, perhaps they are open. I'm not optimistic for an update, though.[/quoteb077460c16]

You don't work in an office, do you? NOTHING gets done on Fridays, with the exception of 90 minutes lunches, 7 or so 15-minute breaks, and plans for where people plan on getting hammered that evening.

If you're in college, think of what your classes look like on Fridays. Dismally and sparsely attended. Everyone is either recovering from the night before (Thursday liisli the official start of the weekend), or they just don't fucking care, because it's Friday.

The short version don't expect anything to ever happen on a Friday.[/quoteb077460c16]

Lol @ the 90 minute lunches. I had one with my manager yesterday at TGIF's.

At around 4 I realized I was one of the few actually left in the office and had to get out of there.

Did play 360 last night. NBALive 06.

the graphics kick ass but I'm now scared that if I had one I would never leave the house.

iamzim

15-04-2006 08:34:39

Bestbuy online has them in stock again! not that it matters to me though...

Menotti

15-04-2006 08:53:01

http//pictures.xbox-scene.com/xbox360/clown/128477766_f14b997790_o.jpg[" alt=""/img564b17b224]
(taken from A4F)


If only the clown was FreePay.

Menotti

15-04-2006 08:58:28

Not sure if this has been posted before, but here is the FreePay information from the BBB
(http//www.dc.bbb.org/report.html?national=Y&compid=1035561[]http//www.dc.bbb.org/report.html?national=Y&compid=1035561)

[ue741263a75]Addresses[/ue741263a75]
700 - 12th Street, NW
Washington, DC 20005
District of Columbia County

P.O. Box 50945, Washington, DC 20091, District of Columbia County

2000 15th Street NW, Suite 1, Washington, DC 20009, District of Columbia County

819 7th St NW, Suite 200, Washington, DC 20001, District of Columbia County

[ue741263a75]Phone[/ue741263a75] (202) 299-0761

[ue741263a75]Customer Experience[/ue741263a75]
Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau due to unanswered complaint(s).

[ue741263a75]Customer Complaint Data[/ue741263a75]
Number of complaints processed by the BBB over the last 36 months 393
Number of complaints processed by the BBB in the last 12 months 211

[be741263a75]What are your thoughts about an appropriate time to log a complaint about the 360 situation? How much longer do we wait before taking such an action?[/be741263a75]

lizzy67

15-04-2006 16:33:03

Not only has freepay scammed us with the 360 situation, 75% of the offers they make you do for their sites are scams. Fuck freepay, this is ridiculous, I say we all file commplaints now

Wolfeman

15-04-2006 17:39:46

Yeah BBB complaints really make a difference roll

tomraffe

16-04-2006 02:20:46

What is BBB? Sorry im from the UK.

Wolfeman

16-04-2006 02:37:04

[quote4d5a94b165="tomraffe"]What is BBB? Sorry im from the UK.[/quote4d5a94b165]
Better Business Bureau[=http//www.bbb.org/]Better Business Bureau

thehacker010

16-04-2006 04:28:46

[quote66be7cc34b="Wolfeman"][quote66be7cc34b="tomraffe"]What is BBB? Sorry im from the UK.[/quote66be7cc34b]
Better Business Bureau[=http//www.bbbo.org/]Better Business Bureau[/quote66be7cc34b]

That would be the Braddock Bay Bird Observatory.... P

http//www.bbb.org/[]http//www.bbb.org/

tomraffe

16-04-2006 04:34:47

Cant we just set light to their HQ?

I know, lets take one of them hostage and release periodic video recordings with us standing behind them with masks and AK47s, that always works!

Menotti

16-04-2006 08:22:23

[quote805a4d6b00="tomraffe"]Cant we just set light to their HQ?

I know, lets take one of them hostage and release periodic video recordings with us standing behind them with masks and AK47s, that always works![/quote805a4d6b00]

sounds rational!

good2speed

16-04-2006 08:22:27

[quote55a76f85dc="tomraffe"]Cant we just set light to their HQ?

I know, lets take one of them hostage and release periodic video recordings with us standing behind them with masks and AK47s, [b55a76f85dc]that always works![/b55a76f85dc][/quote55a76f85dc]

right until the fbi or swat team arrives.

iamzim

17-04-2006 06:22:33

waiting......waiting.......waiting.......waiting......waiting.... man, it seems like I put a lot of waitings...but it's just the amount of months I've been waiting since I was approved. your suppliers have anything yet?? or has FP given up on the 360's to get a supply of the Cell Phones for their new site??? (which they probably should've put on hold till they got their other problems figured out!!)

Menotti

17-04-2006 06:25:57

I see Jake is logged on and browsing. Hopefully a good update today man!

mpbollywoodking

17-04-2006 06:28:00

well, it is Monday, a business day, so he probably is just browsing

tomraffe

17-04-2006 06:29:30

Im not holding me breath.

mykevermin

17-04-2006 06:43:20

[quote9e3e7ef60d="tomraffe"]Im not holding me breath.[/quote9e3e7ef60d]

Nor will I. Instead, I'm going to go find 7 referrals for Freepay's cellphone site so I can not get one of those, too!

tomraffe

17-04-2006 06:44:15

Or have to wait ages for those too.

Where can I find this phone site?

Menotti

17-04-2006 06:46:13

[quote9b6b7f8716="tomraffe"]Im not holding me breath.[/quote9b6b7f8716]

Looks like I'm not either. Not to be cynical but...one post so far today...in off topic
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=382023&highlight=#382023[]http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?p=382023&highlight=#382023

Not that I should get on him this early in the morning. There is still a chance that he will make some good posts today. However, if this is the only 1 or 1 of a number of off topic posts, I will not be pleased.

Menotti

17-04-2006 06:47:33

[quote2e21aab2d1="tomraffe"]Or have to wait ages for those too.

Where can I find this phone site?[/quote2e21aab2d1]

phones.freepay.com

not sure why you would want to do this. it seems like FP should concentrate on making its other sites effecient rather than launching a new site. shows where the priorities are, doesn't it? quite the kick in the nuts at this point, considering the poor customer service.

tomraffe

17-04-2006 06:50:16

I dont want to join, I was just seeing if it was available to UK users, its not.

Menotti

17-04-2006 06:52:14

[quote7b8a352ffe="tomraffe"]I dont want to join, I was just seeing if it was available to UK users, its not.[/quote7b8a352ffe]

Gotcha. Well I would hope you wouldn't join anyway )

drunkmonkey

17-04-2006 09:17:16

You guys should have jumped on the GC when you had the chance. I love my new toys! D

phoebe7

17-04-2006 09:22:40

[quote8876081ffa="drunkmonkey"]You guys should have jumped on the GC when you had the chance. I love my new toys! D[/quote8876081ffa]

We did! Some people even went STV, then freepay said No more. It wasn't our faults.

drunkmonkey

17-04-2006 09:27:43

[quote89679115e5="phoebe7"][quote89679115e5="drunkmonkey"]You guys should have jumped on the GC when you had the chance. I love my new toys! D[/quote89679115e5]

We did! Some people even went STV, then freepay said No more. It wasn't our faults.[/quote89679115e5]

Yikes...I wasn't aware of that. Freepay has definitely fallen. shock

phoebe7

17-04-2006 09:29:45

[quote84f83447c6="drunkmonkey"][quote84f83447c6="phoebe7"][quote84f83447c6="drunkmonkey"]You guys should have jumped on the GC when you had the chance. I love my new toys! D[/quote84f83447c6]

We did! Some people even went STV, then freepay said No more. It wasn't our faults.[/quote84f83447c6]

Yikes...I wasn't aware of that. Freepay has definitely fallen. shock[/quote84f83447c6]

Well, Jake is trying to work on it. I'll keep the faith. )

doylnea

17-04-2006 09:32:29

[quote648244da9a="lizzy67"]Not only has freepay scammed us with the 360 situation, 75% of the offers they make you do for their sites are scams. Fuck freepay, this is ridiculous, I say we all file commplaints now[/quote648244da9a]

You have no room to comment on scam websites.

Jake

17-04-2006 09:54:13

No update on the 360s themselves yet.

I have been told that those gift card orders will go out this week.

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ffactoryxx

17-04-2006 09:55:03

[quote971d91fbec="Jake"]No update on the 360s themselves yet.

I have been told that those gift card orders will go out this week.

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FUCK YEA!!!. Thanks

mykevermin

17-04-2006 10:02:43

Dammit. Now I can't use this old joke that I already posted at A4F

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We ain't found shit!

Oh well, still funny and good news on the Gift Cards. Thanks, and here's to hoping they do go out this week! Cheers!

kagai

17-04-2006 10:05:49

[quote6a3d7a29db="Jake"]No update on the 360s themselves yet.

I have been told that those gift card orders will go out this week.

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Since there are some people who love to keep score on my posts and where I post them, perhaps I should stop altogether to make them happy? P[/quote6a3d7a29db]

I'm not so much interested on when you'll be shipping out the 360s or when they'll be in stock, but I'm more interested on what's up with the approval forms. If Trainn can get it done usually within a week, and FreePay is supposed to be the best, why is it taking so long to go through the approval forms????

Menotti

17-04-2006 10:16:51

[quotee1fe67a54d="Jake"]No update on the 360s themselves yet.

I have been told that those gift card orders will go out this week.

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Since there are some people who love to keep score on my posts and where I post them, perhaps I should stop altogether to make them happy? P[/quotee1fe67a54d]

Well, I'll admit that I'm one of those people. Can you blame me (us)? You are, after all, representing your company.

You see how you said "No update on the 360s themselves yet." ? That's all it takes - even only once a day - to keep us midly satisfied. It shows, at the minimum, that you guys still have a pulse. Just keep posting your progress on the units, not only the giftcards.

tomraffe

17-04-2006 10:17:42

[quote3a7c0d0294="Jake"]No update on the 360s themselves yet.

I have been told that those gift card orders will go out this week.

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Since there are some people who love to keep score on my posts and where I post them, perhaps I should stop altogether to make them happy? P[/quote3a7c0d0294]

Why cant FreePay keep issuing giftcards? They are making people happy, and the costs to FreePay are the same as they would be for the XBOX 360.

I asked CS if I could have a giftcard instead as was offered to the US users and was declined which is unfair. FreePay have a solution here to their problem so why arent they using it. I expect a response please Jake!

Jake

17-04-2006 10:22:54

[quote4c5d0f4695="Menotti"]
You see how you said "No update on the 360s themselves yet." ? That's all it takes - even only once a day - to keep us midly satisfied. It shows, at the minimum, that you guys still have a pulse. Just keep posting your progress on the units, not only the giftcards.[/quote4c5d0f4695]

Answering 20 - 30 PMs up to this point during the day doesn't indicate that we still have a pulse to anyone?

tomraffe

17-04-2006 10:24:11

What are FreePay actually doing towards sourcing XBOX's?

GameConsoleGrab.co.uk order their products from retail sites such as Play.com and are usually delivered within 1 week of completing the requirements. I dont see why this cant be done with FreePay.

ffactoryxx

17-04-2006 10:34:25

Now to the nitty gritty. HAHA


Do you mean the gc's from gc.com will go out sometime this week or the order from freepay to gc will go out this week?

Truxity.net

17-04-2006 10:51:22

[quotefc0e4080ae="Jake"]No update on the 360s themselves yet.

I have been told that those [bfc0e4080ae]gift card orders will go out this week.
[/bfc0e4080ae]
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WOOO WOOO WOOO
WOOO WOOO WOOO
FINALLY!!!
Now I'll be checking my e-mail every 10 minutes lol.

tomraffe

17-04-2006 10:52:43

Note - despite request it seems Jake ignored my questions. Next time!

Menotti

17-04-2006 10:59:06

[quote614863b28c="Jake"][quote614863b28c="Menotti"]
You see how you said "No update on the 360s themselves yet." ? That's all it takes - even only once a day - to keep us midly satisfied. It shows, at the minimum, that you guys still have a pulse. Just keep posting your progress on the units, not only the giftcards.[/quote614863b28c]

Answering 20 - 30 PMs up to this point during the day doesn't indicate that we still have a pulse to anyone?[/quote614863b28c]

I'm not trying to argue with you here, just to get that out there. I appreciate the work you're doing.

Many people refrain from sending you PMs in hope that you will post something for [i614863b28c]everyone[/i614863b28c] to see. I'd imagine it is more efficient than answering a bunch of the same questions.

If there was a more streamlined process for updates to your users, you wouldn't have to answer so many PMs.

So, I'm not going to complain without offering up ideas, so here are a couple. Take em how you wish

- News items on your sites - especially ones that you have not fulfilled orders on, like Xbox360.freepay. These should be updated at least daily. [b614863b28c]This is particularly important to your customers who do not know about forums like FiPG or A4f.[/b614863b28c] These items should indicate something about your progress - like "hey we contacted our supplier again" or "we hope to let [i614863b28c]everyone[/i614863b28c] order a giftcard if they want."

- Daily updates from you on forums such as these. They should address previously unanswered questions like, "What is the situation with 360 supply" or "When will I be able to order a giftcard?" etc. If, once per day, you addressed these types of questions with a simple update, you wouldn't see so many PMs.

/just my .02c from someone who has been in customer service positions before

iamzim

17-04-2006 11:02:45

[quote54748dd00e="Jake"][quote54748dd00e="Menotti"]
You see how you said "No update on the 360s themselves yet." ? That's all it takes - even only once a day - to keep us midly satisfied. It shows, at the minimum, that you guys still have a pulse. Just keep posting your progress on the units, not only the giftcards.[/quote54748dd00e]

Answering 20 - 30 PMs up to this point during the day doesn't indicate that we still have a pulse to anyone?[/quote54748dd00e]

It may show that you have a pulse to some people...but not all. Are we all supposed to flood your inbox with PMs asking about the status of the 360?? If you want, I can help do that. But I think it'd be easier for all of us (especially you) for an update in this thread about the status of the 360s (which I still have a difficult time swallowing the fact that you have none, and my local radio shack has 3!!! IT'S A FREAKING RADIO SHACK!!!!!!!)

Jake

17-04-2006 11:12:49

[quote42082aef7c="tomraffe"]Note - despite request it seems Jake ignored my questions. Next time![/quote42082aef7c]

Well, there used to be a sticky saying not to post threads directly aimed at me.

Perhaps you should PM me instead? Just a thought ;)

tomraffe

17-04-2006 11:18:12

I wasnt aware. I'll PM. )

Jake

17-04-2006 11:23:30

[quotec0a95ef007="iamzim"]
It may show that you have a pulse to some people...but not all. Are we all supposed to flood your inbox with PMs asking about the status of the 360?? If you want, I can help do that. But I think it'd be easier for all of us (especially you) for an update in this thread about the status of the 360s (which I still have a difficult time swallowing the fact that you have none, and my local radio shack has 3!!! IT'S A FREAKING RADIO SHACK!!!!!!!)[/quotec0a95ef007]

Let's put it this way. I put in an occasional post in this thread - I have no problem with this. However, there are some days when I just don't have the opportunity to do so. Those days, one needs to assume that there is no change in status that I am aware of and one has to wait a bit before hearing more.

Besides, if I stopped answering PMs, you can be there would be a lot of people on here asking, "Where's Jake? He hasn't answered my PM in a while."
It has happened many times in the past when I have been too busy to get to my PMs quickly.

tomraffe

17-04-2006 11:25:07

Quality, not quantity.

I'd rather here "shipping" once a month than "no progress" every day )

kagai

17-04-2006 11:30:49

I used to work in CS at a mail order catalog and we would post what date we were up to on returned items. So, we would say, "We have processed all returns that have been received up until 4/01/06, if your return was delivered to us before this date, please give us your delivery confirmation information and we will look into the issue." I think you guys need to implement something along these lines for the approval form process.

Are you even working approval forms or are you just stockpiling them?

Wolfeman

17-04-2006 11:33:29

[quotebc432742ee="Menotti"][quotebc432742ee="Jake"]No update on the 360s themselves yet.

I have been told that those gift card orders will go out this week.

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Well, I'll admit that I'm one of those people. Can you blame me (us)? You are, after all, representing your company.

You see how you said "No update on the 360s themselves yet." ? That's all it takes - even only once a day - to keep us midly satisfied. It shows, at the minimum, that you guys still have a pulse. Just keep posting your progress on the units, not only the giftcards.[/quotebc432742ee]
There is nothing that will keep you guys satisfied. Its pretty lame you post 100 times a day and e-stalk Jake. You are making it so he wants less and less to come here (the forums) and help people. There is nothing saying he has to be here at all so I'd keep that in mind...

Menotti

17-04-2006 11:37:02

[quotea63da871e7="Jake"][quotea63da871e7="iamzim"]
It may show that you have a pulse to some people...but not all. Are we all supposed to flood your inbox with PMs asking about the status of the 360?? If you want, I can help do that. But I think it'd be easier for all of us (especially you) for an update in this thread about the status of the 360s (which I still have a difficult time swallowing the fact that you have none, and my local radio shack has 3!!! IT'S A FREAKING RADIO SHACK!!!!!!!)[/quotea63da871e7]

Let's put it this way. I put in an occasional post in this thread - I have no problem with this. However, there are some days when I just don't have the opportunity to do so. Those days, one needs to assume that there is no change in status that I am aware of and one has to wait a bit before hearing more.[/quotea63da871e7]

I appreciate you talking about this. I think that people, including myself, hear no change in status for multiple days. I know this is not your fault, but you have to understand where we're coming from here. Especially when most of us can walk into electronics stores and pick the 360 up. When we hear nothing or no progress, it doesn't help. If there was [ba63da871e7]some[/ba63da871e7] way for you guys to indicate to us that you're working diligently on this, we'd we happier.

PS - Refer to my last post about having some kind of update on 360s.freepay. You NEED to take care of the people who don't browse forums like this. Customer service response time is in the multiple weeks.

Jake

17-04-2006 11:44:38

[quote23278e6546="Menotti"]
Refer to my last post about having some kind of update on 360s.freepay. You NEED to take care of the people who don't browse forums like this. Customer service response time is in the multiple weeks.[/quote23278e6546]

Incorrect.

We have been answering our inquiries exceptionally quickly lately.

Jake

17-04-2006 11:47:21

As for the 360s, I am not the one in charge of purchasing the units. I can convey the general sentiment of our customers to those people and ask them periodically what is happening but I am not in a position to make a decision on whether to buy them or not.

ffactoryxx

17-04-2006 11:55:12

[quoteeda477a79e="Jake"]As for the 360s, I am not the one in charge of purchasing the units. I can convey the general sentiment of our customers to those people and ask them periodically what is happening but I am not in a position to make a decision on whether to buy them or not.[/quoteeda477a79e]


I commend you for you efforts though. Even the little info you post occasionally should be sufficiant. I mean its better than nothing.





Also regarding the cards. Do you know when the orders will go out to gc.com?

Menotti

17-04-2006 11:56:06

[quotef47805368e="Jake"][quotef47805368e="Menotti"]
Refer to my last post about having some kind of update on 360s.freepay. You NEED to take care of the people who don't browse forums like this. Customer service response time is in the multiple weeks.[/quotef47805368e]

Incorrect.

We have been answering our inquiries exceptionally quickly lately.[/quotef47805368e]

I, along with a number of other users, have noted that they haven't had CS responses for a while. I submitted one on 4/5 that is unanswered, for instance.

Menotti

17-04-2006 11:57:34

[quote5a08f9055c="Jake"]As for the 360s, I am not the one in charge of purchasing the units. I can convey the general sentiment of our customers to those people and ask them periodically what is happening but I am not in a position to make a decision on [b5a08f9055c]whether to buy them or not.[/b5a08f9055c][/quote5a08f9055c]

Are you saying that they can buy them but are choosing not to?

ffactoryxx

17-04-2006 12:23:47

[quoted48d04d089="Menotti"][quoted48d04d089="Jake"]As for the 360s, I am not the one in charge of purchasing the units. I can convey the general sentiment of our customers to those people and ask them periodically what is happening but I am not in a position to make a decision on [bd48d04d089]whether to buy them or not.[/bd48d04d089][/quoted48d04d089]

Are you saying that they can buy them but are choosing not to?[/quoted48d04d089]

Even if thats the case. Thats thier choice.

Menotti, are you waiting on a giftcard or did you miss out on that?

Menotti

17-04-2006 12:24:39

[quotef95ce4bf2b="ffactoryxx"][quotef95ce4bf2b="Menotti"][quotef95ce4bf2b="Jake"]As for the 360s, I am not the one in charge of purchasing the units. I can convey the general sentiment of our customers to those people and ask them periodically what is happening but I am not in a position to make a decision on [bf95ce4bf2b]whether to buy them or not.[/bf95ce4bf2b][/quotef95ce4bf2b]

Are you saying that they can buy them but are choosing not to?[/quotef95ce4bf2b]

Even if thats the case. Thats thier choice.

Menotti, are you waiting on a giftcard or did you miss out on that?[/quotef95ce4bf2b]

I missed out.

And how is that their choice? Don't they have orders to fulfill?

ffactoryxx

17-04-2006 12:29:12

Yes they do but consider the gc offering and those who got in on it lucky. They could have just said wait for the 360. They at least made an attempt to send out gcs to certain accounts.

I know it sucks waiting for the 360 and they are i guess obligated but i use that term very loosly. You could look at it as they are obligated but that obligation can be fullfilled in July and they still nmet thier obligation

good2speed

17-04-2006 12:32:34

[quote1f05595f61="Wolfeman"] You are making it so he wants less and less to come here (the forums) and help people. There is nothing saying he has to be here at all so I'd keep that in mind...[/quote1f05595f61]

no actually I was in favorable support of Jake for weeks ensuirng everyone that Freepay is a good compnay and Jake is a rep who stays on top of things. From my accounts Jake has posted sparingly in these threads but has enough time to share his pihilosophical and ideological ideas to us in off topic. Nothing against the guy but its pretty obvious that he has been avoiding us with intent and i do understand he doesnt have to be here. Nothing against the guy I just dont support his comp as I once used to. And how can we even believe what jake has to say now. Not saying hes a liar but his comp sure is. Selling info, stalling, and etc. I'm done with freepay and Im sure freepay is done with me and doesnt consider me as a customer valuable anymore. Enough rant this is annoying.

Menotti

17-04-2006 12:34:29

[quote6c4b34d67f="ffactoryxx"]Yes they do but consider the gc offering and those who got in on it lucky. They could have just said wait for the 360. They at least made an attempt to send out gcs to certain accounts.

I know it sucks waiting for the 360 and they are i guess obligated but i use that term very loosly. You could look at it as they are obligated but that obligation can be fullfilled in July and they still nmet thier obligation[/quote6c4b34d67f]

Try applying these principles to another business you've ever dealt with. It isn't acceptable.

Menotti

17-04-2006 12:37:53

[quote5e48b8d9ea="Wolfeman"]
There is nothing that will keep you guys satisfied. Its pretty lame you post 100 times a day and e-stalk Jake. You are making it so he wants less and less to come here (the forums) and help people. There is nothing saying he has to be here at all so I'd keep that in mind...[/quote5e48b8d9ea]

I do have that in mind. It is not lame to post 100 times a day, and we are not e-stalking him. This forum allows us to see what he is doing, as it allows you to see what I'm doing. Something about their CS just doesn't feel right.

Jake

17-04-2006 12:53:06

[quotefc395e263a="Menotti"]
I missed out.
[/quotefc395e263a]

No actually, I offered the card, you declined...

Jake

17-04-2006 12:56:05

[quoteb5eed41821="good2speed"]
From my accounts Jake has posted sparingly in these threads but has enough time to share his pihilosophical and ideological ideas to us in off topic. Nothing against the guy but its pretty obvious that he has been avoiding us with intent and i do understand he doesnt have to be here.[/quoteb5eed41821]

So I post once or twice in a different forum and I am intentionally avoiding people? roll

Maybe I shouldn't be a part of this community at all and be a question answering machine instead of being a a participant/member of the forum?

Wolfeman

17-04-2006 12:56:23

[quote73962c9de1="good2speed"]no actually I was in favorable support of Jake for weeks ensuirng everyone that Freepay is a good compnay and Jake is a rep who stays on top of things. From my accounts Jake has posted sparingly in these threads but has enough time to share his pihilosophical and ideological ideas to us in off topic. Nothing against the guy but its pretty obvious that he has been avoiding us with intent and i do understand he doesnt have to be here. Nothing against the guy I just dont support his comp as I once used to. And how can we even believe what jake has to say now. Not saying hes a liar but his comp sure is. Selling info, stalling, and etc. I'm done with freepay and Im sure freepay is done with me and doesnt consider me as a customer valuable anymore. Enough rant this is annoying.[/quote73962c9de1]
I think its a waste of his time to come here daily and say "nothing new". His only job at Freepay isn't to just watch FiPG and A4F and answer the same questions over and over. If he wants to post in Off-Topic thats his deal and none of anyone else's concern. FreePay hasn't been found guilty of selling anything by the way...

[quote73962c9de1="Menotti"]I do have that in mind. It is not lame to post 100 times a day, and we are not e-stalking him. This forum allows us to see what he is doing, as it allows you to see what I'm doing. Something about their CS just doesn't feel right.[/quote73962c9de1]
Well you post links everytime he posts anywhere else and you know everytime he is on. When he knows something I'm sure he'll run here to post about it. You needing a daily reassurance nothing has changed is just getting old roll

mykevermin

17-04-2006 13:06:23

[quotecb99f5a9f1="Wolfeman"]nothing has changed is just getting old roll[/quotecb99f5a9f1]

I concur! That's why this thread is here, for those of us fed up with nothing changing!

Oh, you meant to continue your blind faith in FreePay. My mistake. P

Jake

17-04-2006 13:09:59

[quotec3231fd9c4="Menotti"]
Are you saying that they can buy them but are choosing not to?[/quotec3231fd9c4]

I was talking about myself. Not anyone else.

I am not in a position to make these decisions.

Truxity.net

17-04-2006 13:10:37

Yeah a agree a daily update i s asking to much. It seems Jake updates us at average once a week which is fine with me. The wait sucks but atleast some news here and there is better then none. I mean we are frustrated with news, think of those people who don't know about FIPG and A4F and what they are going through. I hate to think of all the PM's Jake gets daily so it is very understandable why updates aren't givingeveryday and I'm sure he has much more responsability then just talking in the forums.

Wolfeman

17-04-2006 13:18:33

[quote35eab65881="mykevermin"][quote35eab65881="Wolfeman"]nothing has changed is just getting old roll[/quote35eab65881]

I concur! That's why this thread is here, for those of us fed up with nothing changing!

Oh, you meant to continue your blind faith in FreePay. My mistake. P[/quote35eab65881]
You all think because you saw a few 360s at BestBuy they are easy to come by. I don't have blind faith in anything but FreePay has always come through for me long before I even started posting on FiPG. I know that my dad's best friend who owns a company worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is one of the largest video game wholesalers in the country is having trouble getting any bulk amount of 360s at anything but retail + huge markups. Microsoft is actively making sure large retailers have them not smaller wholesale companys. Large is billion dollar companies like BestBuy and Walmart and they don't care about the medium sized or small companies yet...

mykevermin

17-04-2006 14:03:55

[quote0b69d491e9="Wolfeman"][quote0b69d491e9="mykevermin"][quote0b69d491e9="Wolfeman"]nothing has changed is just getting old roll[/quote0b69d491e9]

I concur! That's why this thread is here, for those of us fed up with nothing changing!

Oh, you meant to continue your blind faith in FreePay. My mistake. P[/quote0b69d491e9]
You all think because you saw a few 360s at BestBuy they are easy to come by. I don't have blind faith in anything but FreePay has always come through for me long before I even started posting on FiPG. I know that my dad's best friend who owns a company worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is one of the largest video game wholesalers in the country is having trouble getting any bulk amount of 360s at anything but retail + huge markups. Microsoft is actively making sure large retailers have them not smaller wholesale companys. Large is billion dollar companies like BestBuy and Walmart and they don't care about the medium sized or small companies yet...[/quote0b69d491e9]

lol You certainly gleaned a great deal of things I didn't say, and retored with a great deal of nonsense that most people know anyway (oh MY! Large corporations favor large corporations! Next thing, you'll tell me Republicans think supply-side economics is a good idea. I can't wait to find out what it is next that you want to tell me that I already know!).

I merely took a phrase you made out of context and made a funny, and you had to be a prat about it.

I think your perspective is a reactionary one. Your trigger finger to defend FreePay exists merely because so many people are quick to jump to conclusions about them as a company. That's fine, because there are liplentyli of people who have jumped to conclusions about them. There are those who ignore what FP has given out in the past ("them," if you will, and I suppose you may lump me in that bunch), and there are those who will continue to ignore the impossible layers of bureaucracy and inefficiency that FP has placed on themselves with no seeming logic other than to stymie their clientele into not finishing their programs. Additionally, these layers of bureaucracy are creating immense problems in remunerating people for the programs that they lihave alreadyli completed. I can understand that you have faith in FreePay; for you to act a prick each and every moment that someone questions them as a company is an absurdly blind loyalty, one that stands in the face of their recent actions as a company. I hereby dub you "the Sean Hannity of FreePay."

Lastly, let me propose this to you if FreePay announced an IPO to come in short order, would you buy, or abstain from buying?

Wolfeman

17-04-2006 14:15:58

Well I don't "act a prick" every time someone attacks FP. I usually just read it and move on but this thread just bugs me. I have to watch these threads since I'm a mod and every now and then I need to inject some common sense in this thread. The 360 situation is unusual for a product rollout and its creating a lot of headaches for wholesalers and people that aren't Walmart, BestBuy, or other massive companies. Usually 5 months after a product is released the wholesalers can get their hands on them easily but this isn't the case with the 360s which is why Freepay is having such a problem. Maybe you understand this but the majority of the people posting on this thread don't seem to. If Freepay had an IPO I'd take a look but without seeing their financials or plans for the future its stupid to say I would or wouldn't but it based on forum talk...

Menotti

17-04-2006 14:22:52

[quotec9df884a28="Jake"][quotec9df884a28="Menotti"]
I missed out.
[/quotec9df884a28]

No actually, I offered the card, you declined...[/quotec9df884a28]

This was when I was under the impression that people were going to be able to request them at a later time. I wasn't ready to take $400 11 days ago when I'm going to pay 8.75% on top of that in a store. I declined in good faith that progress would be made. Also, how was I supposed to know that gift card orders would be cut off?

PS - I do appreciate the news about the meeting about how you guys should be sending out a steady flow of product again.

Wolfeman

17-04-2006 14:24:31

[quotef51406736d="Menotti"][quotef51406736d="Jake"][quotef51406736d="Menotti"]
I missed out.
[/quotef51406736d]

No actually, I offered the card, you declined...[/quotef51406736d]

This was when I was under the impression that people were going to be able to request them at a later time. I wasn't ready to take $400 11 days ago when I'm going to pay 8.75% on top of that in a store. I declined in good faith that progress would be made. Also, how was I supposed to know that gift card orders would be cut off?[/quotef51406736d]
You should've taken it and paid the $35 in tax...

Menotti

17-04-2006 14:25:28

[quotedaf9f09ce3="Wolfeman"][quotedaf9f09ce3="Menotti"][quotedaf9f09ce3="Jake"][quotedaf9f09ce3="Menotti"]
I missed out.
[/quotedaf9f09ce3]

No actually, I offered the card, you declined...[/quotedaf9f09ce3]

This was when I was under the impression that people were going to be able to request them at a later time. I wasn't ready to take $400 11 days ago when I'm going to pay 8.75% on top of that in a store. I declined in good faith that progress would be made. Also, how was I supposed to know that gift card orders would be cut off?[/quotedaf9f09ce3]
You should've taken it and paid the $35 in tax...[/quotedaf9f09ce3]

That's your opinion. I chose not to because I hoped to get the unit and then spend that money towards an extra controller.

Menotti

17-04-2006 14:26:51

[quote7ebb45ef83="Jake"][quote7ebb45ef83="Menotti"]
Are you saying that they can buy them but are choosing not to?[/quote7ebb45ef83]

I was talking about myself. Not anyone else.

I am not in a position to make these decisions.[/quote7ebb45ef83]

Oh I understand this. From the sound of your post, it seemed as if your higher ups were intentionally not purchasing the units and you are powerless in this situation.

I do know that you can't do much with them except relay our concerns.

Again, I may seem like a bit of an ass sometimes, but I can still appreciate what you are doing.

Wolfeman

17-04-2006 14:26:56

[quotec77e9f1db7="Menotti"][quotec77e9f1db7="Wolfeman"][quotec77e9f1db7="Menotti"][quotec77e9f1db7="Jake"][quotec77e9f1db7="Menotti"]
I missed out.
[/quotec77e9f1db7]

No actually, I offered the card, you declined...[/quotec77e9f1db7]

This was when I was under the impression that people were going to be able to request them at a later time. I wasn't ready to take $400 11 days ago when I'm going to pay 8.75% on top of that in a store. I declined in good faith that progress would be made. Also, how was I supposed to know that gift card orders would be cut off?[/quotec77e9f1db7]
You should've taken it and paid the $35 in tax...[/quotec77e9f1db7]

That's your opinion. I chose not to because I hoped to get the unit and then spend that money towards an extra controller.[/quotec77e9f1db7]
Thats fine but don't front like the giftcard was never an option for you...

Menotti

17-04-2006 14:33:25

[quotec360ee33da="Wolfeman"][quotec360ee33da="Menotti"][quotec360ee33da="Wolfeman"][quotec360ee33da="Menotti"][quotec360ee33da="Jake"][quotec360ee33da="Menotti"]
I missed out.
[/quotec360ee33da]

No actually, I offered the card, you declined...[/quotec360ee33da]

This was when I was under the impression that people were going to be able to request them at a later time. I wasn't ready to take $400 11 days ago when I'm going to pay 8.75% on top of that in a store. I declined in good faith that progress would be made. Also, how was I supposed to know that gift card orders would be cut off?[/quotec360ee33da]
You should've taken it and paid the $35 in tax...[/quotec360ee33da]

That's your opinion. I chose not to because I hoped to get the unit and then spend that money towards an extra controller.[/quotec360ee33da]
Thats fine but don't front like the giftcard was never an option for you...[/quotec360ee33da]

I didn't front like it wasn't an option.

I simply said "I missed out." That can indicate, among other things, that I (a) missed the opportunity outright or (b) had the opportunity and declined in faith that I could save some $ and get the unit.

I obviously chose (b) and, in retrospect, I probably should have just taken the $ and have been done. Hindsight is 20/20. I obviously still have faith in these guys because I chose not to take the money.

wolfemanstillsucks

17-04-2006 15:18:39

<~I'm an attention whore

ilanbg

17-04-2006 15:38:26

Just so some of you know, I, as well, I imagine, as many others, are skipping all the posts that aren't from Jake. There was a time when they had some value but now all people do is flame each other and act like bitches.

Anyway, thanks for the update Jake. Good to know my GC will be here soon.

h3x

17-04-2006 15:41:52

You guys should just chill out before this thread gets 'de-railed' like the previous 360 threads...

All I'm saying is... Can't we all just get abong? http/" alt=""/img527.imageshack.us/img="527/3073/bong6dp.gif[" alt=""/img335991f5d7]

plusnightlife

17-04-2006 15:44:42

EVERYBODY LEAVE JAKE ALONE! HE IS ON OUR SIDE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.

Wolfeman

17-04-2006 15:45:32

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drunkmonkey

17-04-2006 17:25:03

[quotebc2597b489="plusnightlife"]EVERYBODY LEAVE JAKE ALONE! HE IS ON OUR SIDE, BELIEVE IT OR NOT.[/quotebc2597b489]

Yeah, because we're the ones giving him a paycheck. roll


Jake's a good guy, but don't fool yourself.

steve01gts

17-04-2006 18:11:16

[quote00506d5235="Wolfeman"][quote00506d5235="mykevermin"][quote00506d5235="Wolfeman"]nothing has changed is just getting old roll[/quote00506d5235]

I concur! That's why this thread is here, for those of us fed up with nothing changing!

Oh, you meant to continue your blind faith in FreePay. My mistake. P[/quote00506d5235]
You all think because you saw a few 360s at BestBuy they are easy to come by. I don't have blind faith in anything but FreePay has always come through for me long before I even started posting on FiPG. I know that my dad's best friend who owns a company worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is one of the largest video game wholesalers in the country is having trouble getting any bulk amount of 360s at anything but retail + huge markups. Microsoft is actively making sure large retailers have them not smaller wholesale companys. Large is billion dollar companies like BestBuy and Walmart and they don't care about the medium sized or small companies yet...[/quote00506d5235]

bsflag

I know someone who knows someone who knows someone. LOL What a Joke wolf
Hundreds of millions of dollars and can't get their hands on any without out paying retail plus huge markups. Give me a break. Probably the dumbest post of the day. Way to go wolfman.

steve01gts

17-04-2006 18:18:22

[quoteeb032d7418="Wolfeman"][quoteeb032d7418="mykevermin"][quoteeb032d7418="Wolfeman"]nothing has changed is just getting old roll[/quoteeb032d7418]

I concur! That's why this thread is here, for those of us fed up with nothing changing!

Large is billion dollar companies like BestBuy and Walmart and they don't care about the medium sized or small companies yet...[/quoteeb032d7418]

bsflag

I know someone who knows someone who knows someone. LOL What a Joke wolf
Hundreds of millions of dollars and can't get their hands on any without out paying retail plus huge markups. Give me a break. Probably the dumbest post of the day. Way to go wolfman.[/quoteeb032d7418]

Large billion dollar companies but I guess that includes Gamecrazy, Ebgames, Gamestop and any other medium sized company I seen them at. None of these are worth billions of dollars like you claimed. Once again for the second time your wrong and looked dumb wolf.

Wolfeman

17-04-2006 18:56:33

[quotee23c700f66="steve01gts"][quotee23c700f66="Wolfeman"][quotee23c700f66="mykevermin"][quotee23c700f66="Wolfeman"]nothing has changed is just getting old roll[/quotee23c700f66]

I concur! That's why this thread is here, for those of us fed up with nothing changing!

Oh, you meant to continue your blind faith in FreePay. My mistake. P[/quotee23c700f66]
You all think because you saw a few 360s at BestBuy they are easy to come by. I don't have blind faith in anything but FreePay has always come through for me long before I even started posting on FiPG. I know that my dad's best friend who owns a company worth hundreds of millions of dollars and is one of the largest video game wholesalers in the country is having trouble getting any bulk amount of 360s at anything but retail + huge markups. Microsoft is actively making sure large retailers have them not smaller wholesale companys. Large is billion dollar companies like BestBuy and Walmart and they don't care about the medium sized or small companies yet...[/quotee23c700f66]

bsflag

I know someone who knows someone who knows someone. LOL What a Joke wolf
Hundreds of millions of dollars and can't get their hands on any without out paying retail plus huge markups. Give me a break. Probably the dumbest post of the day. Way to go wolfman.[/quotee23c700f66]
You are an idiot. The guy is my dad's best friend and my godfather and he runs a company that is the leader in the software and video game wholesale market. The point is even he is having trouble getting his hands on 360s without a markup. I don't see why thats so hard to believe when they are still hard to find and sell out all the time. You need to get a life and stop making me ban you...

Wolfeman

17-04-2006 18:58:24

[quote9042ad13bf="steve01gts"]Large billion dollar companies but I guess that includes Gamecrazy, Ebgames, Gamestop and any other medium sized company I seen them at. None of these are worth billions of dollars like you claimed. Once again for the second time your wrong and looked dumb wolf.[/quote9042ad13bf]
And they are charging markups and making you buy shitty game packs to cover their markups...

steve01gts

17-04-2006 19:49:24

[quotef3f414a7ce="Wolfeman"][quotef3f414a7ce="steve01gts"]Large billion dollar companies but I guess that includes Gamecrazy, Ebgames, Gamestop and any other medium sized company I seen them at. None of these are worth billions of dollars like you claimed. Once again for the second time your wrong and looked dumb wolf.[/quotef3f414a7ce]
And they are charging markups and making you buy shitty game packs to cover their markups...[/quotef3f414a7ce]

Sorry but your wrong again. Purchased one from Gamecrazy with out a bundle on launch and local ebgames and gamestop do not require bundles either. Only months ago when ordered online.

steve01gts

17-04-2006 19:53:31

You ban people just because they disagree with you. Pretty low. I think your taking the moderator power a little to serious. First my dads best friend, then my godfather, whats next your dad. To much I heard through the grapevine b.s. There is no way in hell that a company that is worth hundreds of millions is paying retail plus huge markup. Thats just total bs. Once again Wolfman I smell bsflag

Wolfeman

17-04-2006 19:58:42

[quotef5e1aed9ad="steve01gts"]You ban people just because they disagree with you. Pretty low. I think your taking the moderator power a little to serious. First my dads best friend, then my godfather, whats next your dad. To much I heard through the grapevine b.s. There is no way in hell that a company that is worth hundreds of millions is paying retail plus huge markup. Thats just total bs. Once again Wolfman I smell bsflag[/quotef5e1aed9ad]
You get banned because you are an idiot and keep making up names and instigating. He is my dad's best friend and also my godfather, I don't get why thats so hard to believe? Its not through the grapevine, I've talked to him about it myself. You have 0 idea what you are talking about so just stfu already and quit thread crapping on an already ridiculously long thread with 0 information. I'll keep banning you just out of principle...

Menotti

17-04-2006 20:32:22

I want to apologize for blowing off so much steam today. You have to give me and my fellow bitchers the benefit of the doubt in this situation.

I'll try my best not to talk about it every day. But I still think their customer service needs work.

Wolfeman

17-04-2006 20:34:33

[quote0c5713e35b="Menotti"]I want to apologize for blowing off so much steam today. You have to give me and my fellow bitchers the benefit of the doubt in this situation.

I'll try my best not to talk about it every day. But I still think their customer service needs work.[/quote0c5713e35b]
No its ok if you guys vent, I just didn't like that people were calling Jake out and ripping on him for posting in Off-Topic. If he doesn't post here, there isn't any news. I think he should be allowed to post in peace and he's helped out so many people and I'd like him to stay and feel welcomed...

Menotti

17-04-2006 20:52:45

[quotecd062fb9a1="Wolfeman"][quotecd062fb9a1="Menotti"]I want to apologize for blowing off so much steam today. You have to give me and my fellow bitchers the benefit of the doubt in this situation.

I'll try my best not to talk about it every day. But I still think their customer service needs work.[/quotecd062fb9a1]
No its ok if you guys vent, I just didn't like that people were calling Jake out and ripping on him for posting in Off-Topic. If he doesn't post here, there isn't any news. I think he should be allowed to post in peace and he's helped out so many people and I'd like him to stay and feel welcomed...[/quotecd062fb9a1]

There is a great community of people here that could be used so much more effectively. Bounce ideas off of us, let us help you find suppliers for products. I bet a lot of cool things could be done if we were more involved.

ucool22

18-04-2006 06:29:18

ok, so wait, we r gonna get email from gc.com this week if we r already stv?

Jake

18-04-2006 06:56:24

[quote5a08626fec="ucool22"]ok, so wait, we r gonna get email from gc.com this week if we r already stv?[/quote5a08626fec]

I will post in this thread and maybe start a brand new one the moment that I hear those cards have gone out.

iamzim

18-04-2006 07:04:08

Keep us updated jake!! And have a good talking to with those people in charge of the 360 supply!! make sure you let them know that there are people that are upset.....and that we're all causing you mental anguish having to listen to us complain!! -)

ffactoryxx

18-04-2006 07:09:27

Question and this is nitpicking.


When i redeemed the freepay $300 gc gc.com didnt offer free 2day fexed like they were. Is this because of the gc purchased by freepay or just a change in gc.com's way of business

Jake

18-04-2006 07:15:16

[quotef88a34ea46="ffactoryxx"]Question and this is nitpicking.


When i redeemed the freepay $300 gc gc.com didnt offer free 2day fexed like they were. Is this because of the gc purchased by freepay or just a change in gc.com's way of business[/quotef88a34ea46]

I think it has to do with gc.com.

Menotti

18-04-2006 07:48:03

[quote8f17cae8c5="Jake"][quote8f17cae8c5="ucool22"]ok, so wait, we r gonna get email from gc.com this week if we r already stv?[/quote8f17cae8c5]

I will post in this thread and maybe start a brand new one the moment that I hear those cards have gone out.[/quote8f17cae8c5]

1. Any news on if new gift card orders will be taken? Sorry if I missed this news item if it was already answered.
2. I'm guessing no update on 360 supply so far. Keep prying!

ffactoryxx

18-04-2006 09:00:34

[quote72f6a04f58="Menotti"][quote72f6a04f58="Jake"][quote72f6a04f58="ucool22"]ok, so wait, we r gonna get email from gc.com this week if we r already stv?[/quote72f6a04f58]

I will post in this thread and maybe start a brand new one the moment that I hear those cards have gone out.[/quote72f6a04f58]

1. Any news on if new gift card orders will be taken? Sorry if I missed this news item if it was already answered.
2. I'm guessing no update on 360 supply so far. Keep prying![/quote72f6a04f58]

Not to sound like a dick and im a culprit of this but i really dont think posting millions of times a day about updates is going to make Jake move faster and press for info. It hasnt worked before and he knows what he's doing so just let him do his job and he'll post when he has info. It will make it less stressful on yourself to just wait for info and stop asking.

skillet2003

18-04-2006 09:18:26

what is in this email we should get from gc.com? i have some much crap mail, over 800 that i really don't want to look through. is it really that important to receive this or what?

Jake

18-04-2006 09:26:53

[quotecca572a9dd="skillet2003"]what is in this email we should get from gc.com? i have some much crap mail, over 800 that i really don't want to look through. is it really that important to receive this or what?[/quotecca572a9dd]

If someone doesn't receive their certificate after I notify everyone that they have been sent, I'll provide them with contact information for gc.com and they can arrange to have the certificates resent.

To maximize your chances of the certificate coming your way, please add the domain giftcertificates.com to your safe list.

skillet2003

18-04-2006 09:56:36

[quotee7c678b9d5="Jake"][quotee7c678b9d5="skillet2003"]what is in this email we should get from gc.com? i have some much crap mail, over 800 that i really don't want to look through. is it really that important to receive this or what?[/quotee7c678b9d5]

If someone doesn't receive their certificate after I notify everyone that they have been sent, I'll provide them with contact information for gc.com and they can arrange to have the certificates resent.

To maximize your chances of the certificate coming your way, please add the domain giftcertificates.com to your safe list.[/quotee7c678b9d5]

awesome, thx for the help, now does anyone know how to add giftcertificates.com to a safe list on a yahoo address, i don't use it much so i have been looking and have had no luck.

Menotti

18-04-2006 10:03:57

[quote56fe9e4c49="ffactoryxx"][quote56fe9e4c49="Menotti"][quote56fe9e4c49="Jake"][quote56fe9e4c49="ucool22"]ok, so wait, we r gonna get email from gc.com this week if we r already stv?[/quote56fe9e4c49]

I will post in this thread and maybe start a brand new one the moment that I hear those cards have gone out.[/quote56fe9e4c49]

1. Any news on if new gift card orders will be taken? Sorry if I missed this news item if it was already answered.
2. I'm guessing no update on 360 supply so far. Keep prying![/quote56fe9e4c49]

Not to sound like a dick and im a culprit of this but i really dont think posting millions of times a day about updates is going to make Jake move faster and press for info. It hasnt worked before and he knows what he's doing so just let him do his job and he'll post when he has info. It will make it less stressful on yourself to just wait for info and stop asking.[/quote56fe9e4c49]

Was my first and only post today. Also, I thought my first question was at least pretty legit.

But yes I understand what you're saying.

lakersin2025

18-04-2006 10:06:52

So am I on the list even thought my giftcard didn't get STV last month?

Sorry if this has been discused but there are a few threads going on this subject with a crap load of posts.

YOU DA MAN JAKE! )
liwipes the poop off my noseli

EasyAs456

18-04-2006 11:07:02

No reading from what seems to be said here it's only for people that are already STV.. I have been STV for over 2 weeks and no gift card..

Menotti

18-04-2006 12:15:09

Someone posted this customer service inquiry on the A4F 360 sticky regarding the 360 units themselves. (page 77) Take it how you wish...

[quote0b45dcd18f]4/18/2006 94433 AM
customer service wrote
At this time we are working with our third party vendors to see when our shippment will arrive. Once we are notified about our shipment we will inform all users. We hope to have our shipment in by July

4/17/2006 44850 PM
customer service wrote
We have received your inquiry and will respond via a reply post in your account as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience. Sincerely, The FreePay Automated Response Team

4/17/2006 44850 PM
email==I@Me.comI@Me.com=I@Me.comI@Me.com/email wrote
When are you going to send me this product? I'm getting inpatient, enough waiting you guys promise at first it would be 7-10 “I have screenshots” Business days and it's been 140 Days Since I got Approved, and I haven’t see nothing yet! enough is enough.[/quote0b45dcd18f]

Obviously, I can't assure you that this wasn't fabricated.

Jake

18-04-2006 12:19:10

[quoted7dc5b1ac4="Menotti"]
[quoted7dc5b1ac4]4/18/2006 94433 AM
customer service wrote
At this time we are working with our third party vendors to see when our shippment will arrive. Once we are notified about our shipment we will inform all users. We hope to have our shipment in by July
[/quoted7dc5b1ac4]
[/quoted7dc5b1ac4]
That is obviously in reference to the physical 360s and not the gift cards.

Menotti

18-04-2006 12:23:30

[quote705aed6a70="Jake"][quote705aed6a70="Menotti"]
[quote705aed6a70]4/18/2006 94433 AM
customer service wrote
At this time we are working with our third party vendors to see when our shippment will arrive. Once we are notified about our shipment we will inform all users. We hope to have our shipment in by July
[/quote705aed6a70]
[/quote705aed6a70]
That is obviously in reference to the physical 360s and not the gift cards.[/quote705aed6a70]

It is, and I'll update my post accordingly. Is this really when you expect to get a shipment?

ffactoryxx

18-04-2006 12:25:58

[quote9608e9bdaa="Menotti"][quote9608e9bdaa="Jake"][quote9608e9bdaa="Menotti"]
[quote9608e9bdaa]4/18/2006 94433 AM
customer service wrote
At this time we are working with our third party vendors to see when our shippment will arrive. Once we are notified about our shipment we will inform all users. We hope to have our shipment in by July
[/quote9608e9bdaa]
[/quote9608e9bdaa]
That is obviously in reference to the physical 360s and not the gift cards.[/quote9608e9bdaa]

It is, and I'll update my post accordingly. Is this really when you expect to get a shipment?[/quote9608e9bdaa]

Well thats what it says doesnt it.

I just want the gc ive been stv on soon

Menotti

18-04-2006 12:30:42

[quote10c9c2eaaa="ffactoryxx"][quote10c9c2eaaa="Menotti"][quote10c9c2eaaa="Jake"][quote10c9c2eaaa="Menotti"]
[quote10c9c2eaaa]4/18/2006 94433 AM
customer service wrote
At this time we are working with our third party vendors to see when our shippment will arrive. Once we are notified about our shipment we will inform all users. We hope to have our shipment in by July
[/quote10c9c2eaaa]
[/quote10c9c2eaaa]
That is obviously in reference to the physical 360s and not the gift cards.[/quote10c9c2eaaa]

It is, and I'll update my post accordingly. Is this really when you expect to get a shipment?[/quote10c9c2eaaa]

Well thats what it says doesnt it.

I just want the gc ive been stv on soon[/quote10c9c2eaaa]

Well it says that but I was trying to get some more credible info than some text a customer posted on a forum. I was hoping that this person made it up.

iamzim

18-04-2006 12:35:31

JESUS H CHRIST IN A CHICKEN BASKET!!! (anybody that read the onion's article about man walking on the moon would know about that statement) July!!!!! By then, trainn will be shipped out through january 2008!!! Hopefully that is not true, and FP gets them a LOT sooner than that! (they can't use the "there's no supply" excuse forever!)

Menotti

18-04-2006 16:34:20

[quotedb319e2a01="Menotti"][quotedb319e2a01="ffactoryxx"][quotedb319e2a01="Menotti"][quotedb319e2a01="Jake"][quotedb319e2a01="Menotti"]
[quotedb319e2a01]4/18/2006 94433 AM
customer service wrote
At this time we are working with our third party vendors to see when our shippment will arrive. Once we are notified about our shipment we will inform all users. We hope to have our shipment in by July
[/quotedb319e2a01]
[/quotedb319e2a01]
That is obviously in reference to the physical 360s and not the gift cards.[/quotedb319e2a01]

It is, and I'll update my post accordingly. Is this really when you expect to get a shipment?[/quotedb319e2a01]

Well thats what it says doesnt it.

I just want the gc ive been stv on soon[/quotedb319e2a01]

Well it says that but I was trying to get some more credible info than some text a customer posted on a forum. I was hoping that this person made it up.[/quotedb319e2a01]

The user on the forum provided a screenshot. Doesn't seem to be doctored, nor has the info been explicitly denied yet. So, yeah, it's looking like July now.

http/" alt=""/img151.imageshack.us/img="151/3066/xbox4av.jpg[" alt=""/imgdb319e2a01]

champ2131

18-04-2006 16:52:19

1st let me say i believe the customer service responses are legit, screenshots mean nothing to me

http//www.sg.hu/kep/2005_04/0505adobe1.jpg[" alt=""/imgef088446ff]

Glad I went for the giftcard.

Menotti

18-04-2006 17:08:58

[quotec00165c2c6="champ2131"]1st let me say i believe the customer service responses are legit, screenshots mean nothing to me

http//www.sg.hu/kep/2005_04/0505adobe1.jpg[" alt=""/imgc00165c2c6]

Glad I went for the giftcard.[/quotec00165c2c6]

Yeah I know that it could be photoshopped. I don't think this user would have any reason to do that, though.

h3x

18-04-2006 17:44:23

I could have faked that screenshot with mspaint roll

Jet05

18-04-2006 17:50:58

hey jake
i sent you a pm on here and you never responded

Menotti

18-04-2006 21:41:29

[quote256a1c7875="h3x"]I could have faked that screenshot with mspaint roll[/quote256a1c7875]

but why would someone say that? Also, Jake did not deny the response earlier in this thread. So...I dunno

iamzim

19-04-2006 04:42:39

Time 742 am. est. I just submitted a CS support ticket about the 360 supply to FP. Let's see how long it takes to get a response, and with what info. I'll keep everyone posted! (oh yeah, target had 8 premiums yesterday!)

skillet2003

19-04-2006 06:19:06

i received the same response when i asked about their 360 shipment, they told me they were still looking and they hope to have them in by july, i too am glad about getting the gift card, thx jake.

Menotti

19-04-2006 06:37:19

[quotece4e2f7cac="skillet2003"]i received the same response when i asked about their 360 shipment, they told me they were still looking and they hope to have them in by july, i too am glad about getting the gift card, thx jake.[/quotece4e2f7cac]

If Jake can confirm that July really is their estimate about the units, I hope he'll be able to take more giftcard orders.

iamzim

19-04-2006 06:50:25

yeah, I'm not waiting till july to get my damn 360. I've got a $15 store credit i could use for the tax. (though I was hoping on using it for a game! If this is the case, I really hope we can still get GCs. That's just rediculous!

Menotti

19-04-2006 06:51:45

[quote42175b029d="iamzim"]yeah, I'm not waiting till july to get my damn 360. I've got a $15 store credit i could use for the tax. (though I was hoping on using it for a game! If this is the case, I really hope we can still get GCs. That's just rediculous![/quote42175b029d]

Seriously, that is pretty much out of control. If they really expect them by then, why haven't they actually updated their site? Also, (and again)[b42175b029d]what about the people who don't know about forums like these?[/b42175b029d]

mykevermin

19-04-2006 07:07:58

[quote4b9fddf037="Menotti"][b4b9fddf037]what about the people who don't know about forums like these?[/b4b9fddf037][/quote4b9fddf037]

Shaddup and stop acting like you care about those people. The moment the doorbell rings with a FreePay item for you from the 360 site, you'll drop this thread like a bad habit.

I'm the same way, but I'm not going to pretend like I care about anyone else, including you, getting yours. I know well enough to not do FP sites anymore (and I'm lithiscloseli to completing the TraInn PS3 site b/c I don't trust FreePay to ship the one I completed for them a month or so ago).

I feel like I'm divorcing FreePay, but I can't get away from her/it until I get the shit she/it promised me. The bitch!

Menotti

19-04-2006 07:17:30

[quote57e373a753="mykevermin"][quote57e373a753="Menotti"][b57e373a753]what about the people who don't know about forums like these?[/b57e373a753][/quote57e373a753]

Shaddup and stop acting like you care about those people. The moment the doorbell rings with a FreePay item for you from the 360 site, you'll drop this thread like a bad habit. [/quote57e373a753]

I don't appreciate you assuming that I don't care about anyone else but myself in this matter.

Besides, it doesn't counter my argument whatsoever. Whether or not you think I really do care about others in this issue (I do), it doesn't cancel the fact that my assertion is correct. (The assertion being that purchasers who are not aware of forums such as this one are at a major disadvantage and have probably been treated with less information than we've been given)

PS I'm not out to get into an argument with ya, we're on the same side here. Let's keep the peace lol

feisar

19-04-2006 07:18:01

If you don't trust anything else Freepay says, I don't see why you'd put any faith in the July date either. They might have said that so everyone would just lay off.

Menotti

19-04-2006 07:20:31

[quotea4aa232439="feisar"]If you don't trust anything else Freepay says, I don't see why you'd put any faith in the July date either. They might have said that so everyone would just lay off.[/quotea4aa232439]

I don't trust the July date at this point. That's why I'm hoping I can get a giftcard now. I initially declined to get one in good faith, but if they are saying July now, I'm not sure I want to wait to find out if that is true or not.

mykevermin

19-04-2006 07:27:02

[quoteb49f18e030="Menotti"][quoteb49f18e030="mykevermin"][quoteb49f18e030="Menotti"][bb49f18e030]what about the people who don't know about forums like these?[/bb49f18e030][/quoteb49f18e030]

Shaddup and stop acting like you care about those people. The moment the doorbell rings with a FreePay item for you from the 360 site, you'll drop this thread like a bad habit. [/quoteb49f18e030]

I don't appreciate you assuming that I don't care about anyone else but myself in this matter.

Besides, it doesn't counter my argument whatsoever. Whether or not you think I really do care about others in this issue (I do), it doesn't cancel the fact that my assertion is correct. (The assertion being that purchasers who are not aware of forums such as this one are at a major disadvantage and have probably been treated with less information than we've been given)[/quoteb49f18e030]

People with access to less information have less information? That's not an assertion, it's a redundancy.

I also do truly think that you don't care about anyone else, and I also truly believe that you'll drop this thread once you get whatever item it is you asked for. If you were truly that altruistic, you'd find something better to do with your time, and more appropriate recipients of your social benevolence than people waiting for a free Xbox 360.

Menotti

19-04-2006 07:42:26

[quote096d69d959="mykevermin"]
People with access to less information have less information? That's not an assertion, it's a redundancy.[/quote096d69d959]

Fine. But it's still not fair to those users who haven't sought the information provided on these forums.

[quote096d69d959="mykevermin"]
I also do truly think that you don't care about anyone else, and I also truly believe that you'll drop this thread once you get whatever item it is you asked for. If you were truly that altruistic, you'd find something better to do with your time, and more appropriate recipients of your social benevolence than people waiting for a free Xbox 360.[/quote096d69d959]

Then that's what you believe, but please don't assert that I have no other causes I work for or no other recipients of what you call my "social benevolence". Just because I've taken a particular interest in a consumer protection issue at this point in time doesn't indicate that it is the only thing I care about or is the only thing I'm working on. I'm not about to give you a laundry list, but please don't bring my goodwill into question. I haven't done anything to deserve such accusations.

kagai

19-04-2006 09:06:35

Clearly, they either don't have the money to spend, or they are choosing not to spend it for whatever reason. If they had the money, they would just offer people GCs, just as so many legitimate A sites do for their customers. Either way, it amounts to a bunch of lies and if someone is lying to you they are scamming you. They are just trickling out enough product to make people think that they are still legit, which is a typical scammer technique.

I just received a CS response that seemed to state that they still haven't started the approval process, I have sent another message to verify that is what was meant.
[b187e630386]
4/19/2006 112706 AM
customer service wrote

Your account will get approved once our approval department begins that process[/b187e630386]

If they aren't even approving people, they clearly have no intention of fulfulling the orders. They just don't care and it shows in their total lack of customer service. There is no reason that people should be waiting to be approved almost 8 weeks later. Seriously!!

Jake

19-04-2006 10:09:04

[quote0e2a6d31e8="kagai"]
If they aren't even approving people, they clearly have no intention of fulfulling the orders. They just don't care and it shows in their total lack of customer service. There is no reason that people should be waiting to be approved almost 8 weeks later. Seriously!![/quote0e2a6d31e8]

n00b central here.

Read the forum more carefully next time. roll

iamzim

19-04-2006 10:23:16

^HEHE!! You beat me to it jake!! ) +kma

kagai

19-04-2006 10:30:51

[quotedd302ea8b9="Jake"][quotedd302ea8b9="kagai"]
If they aren't even approving people, they clearly have no intention of fulfulling the orders. They just don't care and it shows in their total lack of customer service. There is no reason that people should be waiting to be approved almost 8 weeks later. Seriously!![/quotedd302ea8b9]

n00b central here.

Read the forum more carefully next time. roll[/quotedd302ea8b9]

Read my post more carefully next time. When we begin the process of approving people (e.g. they haven't started)...your own companies words. Oh yeah, and just ignore the rest of my post!

Let's see, a few GCs for the [bdd302ea8b9]few[/bdd302ea8b9] that were approved, yep. Smoke screens, stalling tactics, dates pushed around, conflicting information, check! Mass posting of people finally getting through the approval process, nope. Everyone being offered GCs like a legitimate company would, nope.

Scammings a go!

RoBsTaMaCk

19-04-2006 10:43:37

[quote0e0ef5159c="kagai"][quote0e0ef5159c="Jake"][quote0e0ef5159c="kagai"]
If they aren't even approving people, they clearly have no intention of fulfulling the orders. They just don't care and it shows in their total lack of customer service. There is no reason that people should be waiting to be approved almost 8 weeks later. Seriously!![/quote0e0ef5159c]

n00b central here.

Read the forum more carefully next time. roll[/quote0e0ef5159c]

Read my post more carefully next time. When we begin the process of approving people (e.g. they haven't started)...your own companies words. Oh yeah, and just ignore the rest of my post!

Let's see, a few GCs for the [b0e0ef5159c]few[/b0e0ef5159c] that were approved, yep. Smoke screens, stalling tactics, dates pushed around, conflicting information, check! Mass posting of people finally getting through the approval process, nope. Everyone being offered GCs like a legitimate company would, nope.

Scammings a go![/quote0e0ef5159c]
I think everyone was clear on your post. Read this (ALL OF IT)
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=37535

kagai

19-04-2006 10:52:28

[quotedcb2c63105="RoBsTaMaCk"][quotedcb2c63105="kagai"][quotedcb2c63105="Jake"][quotedcb2c63105="kagai"]
If they aren't even approving people, they clearly have no intention of fulfulling the orders. They just don't care and it shows in their total lack of customer service. There is no reason that people should be waiting to be approved almost 8 weeks later. Seriously!![/quotedcb2c63105]

n00b central here.

Read the forum more carefully next time. roll[/quotedcb2c63105]

Read my post more carefully next time. When we begin the process of approving people (e.g. they haven't started)...your own companies words. Oh yeah, and just ignore the rest of my post!

Let's see, a few GCs for the [bdcb2c63105]few[/bdcb2c63105] that were approved, yep. Smoke screens, stalling tactics, dates pushed around, conflicting information, check! Mass posting of people finally getting through the approval process, nope. Everyone being offered GCs like a legitimate company would, nope.

Scammings a go![/quotedcb2c63105]
I think everyone was clear on your post. Read this (ALL OF IT)
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=37535[/quotedcb2c63105]

Thanks, but I've read it, twice over...what's your point? Not hearing of any Xbox accounts getting approved, where are the posts for that? Even their CS says they still aren't approving.

And, I'm really glad that the people that have been waiting months upon months for their 360 are finally getting what they deserve, no doubt they do deserve it, but why aren't they offering everyone GCs?

Also, why was there even a problem with approvals anyway? This type of lag in the approval process is totally fabricated. There was no need for it to become so backed up in the first place...but, of course, no one has an answer to that...just a simple hey were getting back on track. Ok. Great. What the hell does that mean, 5 a week, 100 a week, 1000 a week???? Throw a couple of tidbits out and watch the pigeons flock.

Don't be surprised that the day after the first wave of expiration dates passes, everyone gets an update that enough of their referrals were DQ'd to put them one under the requirement, but, oh so sorry, you're past the expiration date, so you didn't make it! cry

h3x

19-04-2006 11:59:43

[quote49d3798803="kagai"][quote49d3798803="RoBsTaMaCk"][quote49d3798803="kagai"][quote49d3798803="Jake"][quote49d3798803="kagai"]
If they aren't even approving people, they clearly have no intention of fulfulling the orders. They just don't care and it shows in their total lack of customer service. There is no reason that people should be waiting to be approved almost 8 weeks later. Seriously!![/quote49d3798803]

n00b central here.

Read the forum more carefully next time. roll[/quote49d3798803]

Read my post more carefully next time. When we begin the process of approving people (e.g. they haven't started)...your own companies words. Oh yeah, and just ignore the rest of my post!

Let's see, a few GCs for the [b49d3798803]few[/b49d3798803] that were approved, yep. Smoke screens, stalling tactics, dates pushed around, conflicting information, check! Mass posting of people finally getting through the approval process, nope. Everyone being offered GCs like a legitimate company would, nope.

Scammings a go![/quote49d3798803]
I think everyone was clear on your post. Read this (ALL OF IT)
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=37535[/quote49d3798803]

Thanks, but I've read it, twice over...what's your point? Not hearing of any Xbox accounts getting approved, where are the posts for that? Even their CS says they still aren't approving.

And, I'm really glad that the people that have been waiting months upon months for their 360 are finally getting what they deserve, no doubt they do deserve it, but why aren't they offering everyone GCs?

Also, why was there even a problem with approvals anyway? This type of lag in the approval process is totally fabricated. There was no need for it to become so backed up in the first place...but, of course, no one has an answer to that...just a simple hey were getting back on track. Ok. Great. What the hell does that mean, 5 a week, 100 a week, 1000 a week???? Throw a couple of tidbits out and watch the pigeons flock.

Don't be surprised that the day after the first wave of expiration dates passes, everyone gets an update that enough of their referrals were DQ'd to put them one under the requirement, but, oh so sorry, you're past the expiration date, so you didn't make it! cry[/quote49d3798803]

You're a fucking idiot.

kagai

19-04-2006 12:05:24

[quote4676e33328="h3x"][quote4676e33328="kagai"][quote4676e33328="RoBsTaMaCk"][quote4676e33328="kagai"][quote4676e33328="Jake"][quote4676e33328="kagai"]
If they aren't even approving people, they clearly have no intention of fulfulling the orders. They just don't care and it shows in their total lack of customer service. There is no reason that people should be waiting to be approved almost 8 weeks later. Seriously!![/quote4676e33328]

n00b central here.

Read the forum more carefully next time. roll[/quote4676e33328]

Read my post more carefully next time. When we begin the process of approving people (e.g. they haven't started)...your own companies words. Oh yeah, and just ignore the rest of my post!

Let's see, a few GCs for the [b4676e33328]few[/b4676e33328] that were approved, yep. Smoke screens, stalling tactics, dates pushed around, conflicting information, check! Mass posting of people finally getting through the approval process, nope. Everyone being offered GCs like a legitimate company would, nope.

Scammings a go![/quote4676e33328]
I think everyone was clear on your post. Read this (ALL OF IT)
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=37535[/quote4676e33328]

Thanks, but I've read it, twice over...what's your point? Not hearing of any Xbox accounts getting approved, where are the posts for that? Even their CS says they still aren't approving.

And, I'm really glad that the people that have been waiting months upon months for their 360 are finally getting what they deserve, no doubt they do deserve it, but why aren't they offering everyone GCs?

Also, why was there even a problem with approvals anyway? This type of lag in the approval process is totally fabricated. There was no need for it to become so backed up in the first place...but, of course, no one has an answer to that...just a simple hey were getting back on track. Ok. Great. What the hell does that mean, 5 a week, 100 a week, 1000 a week???? Throw a couple of tidbits out and watch the pigeons flock.

Don't be surprised that the day after the first wave of expiration dates passes, everyone gets an update that enough of their referrals were DQ'd to put them one under the requirement, but, oh so sorry, you're past the expiration date, so you didn't make it! cry[/quote4676e33328]

You're a fucking idiot.[/quote4676e33328]

Aw, yes, the classic, "I have no point, so I will just be verbally abusive." Classy!

Wolfeman

19-04-2006 12:09:56

I'm glad this thread is so helpful to people looking for information...

kagai, they are approving accounts. Just because you haven't seen a 360 account approved doesn't mean anything. Not everyone thats approved is a member here and not everyone approved makes a post about it...

kagai

19-04-2006 12:24:21

[quotee19bf80a89="Wolfeman"]I'm glad this thread is so helpful to people looking for information...

kagai, they are approving accounts. Just because you haven't seen a 360 account approved doesn't mean anything. Not everyone thats approved is a member here and not everyone approved makes a post about it...[/quotee19bf80a89]

This is the last thing I will say, because all of this mess is just giving me an ulcer and its not worth the stress.

When I see a thread titled "Accounts Approved" and a bunch of the people that have posted in this forum and A4F talking about 6 week, 8 week no response times start saying they finally got through approval (one way or the other), then I will believe it. I have seen many, many people complaining about approval, so I know they are on here and if they were approving people they would be talking about.

But, hey, if I am proven wrong and I get approved within another couple of weeks, then I will be the first to apologize for everything I said and trumpet at the top of a mountain that FreePay has cleared its problems and are back on track A+.

I just want to be treated as fairly, as a customer, with accurate, up-to-date information (and not vague comments) just like everyone else that comes to a forum like this and just as I have treated FreePay by following their rules and doing my part of the deal we reached; wherein, I find them enough referrals and they pay me for that with a product. I lived up to my end of the deal, only time will tell if FreePay returns my trust in a similar manner.

Over and out!

good2speed

19-04-2006 12:27:28

[quotee6218edb64="mykevermin"][quotee6218edb64="Menotti"][be6218edb64]what about the people who don't know about forums like these?[/be6218edb64][/quotee6218edb64]

Shaddup and stop acting like you care about those people. The moment the doorbell rings with a FreePay item for you from the 360 site, you'll drop this thread like a bad habit.

I'm the same way, but I'm not going to pretend like I care about anyone else, including you, getting yours. I know well enough to not do FP sites anymore (and I'm lithiscloseli to completing the TraInn PS3 site b/c I don't trust FreePay to ship the one I completed for them a month or so ago).

I feel like I'm divorcing FreePay, but I can't get away from her/it until I get the shit she/it promised me. The bitch![/quotee6218edb64]

at least you dont have any kids and arent up for any alimony.

h3x

19-04-2006 12:30:22

[quote397107925d="good2speed"][quote397107925d="mykevermin"][quote397107925d="Menotti"][b397107925d]what about the people who don't know about forums like these?[/b397107925d][/quote397107925d]

Shaddup and stop acting like you care about those people. The moment the doorbell rings with a FreePay item for you from the 360 site, you'll drop this thread like a bad habit.

I'm the same way, but I'm not going to pretend like I care about anyone else, including you, getting yours. I know well enough to not do FP sites anymore (and I'm lithiscloseli to completing the TraInn PS3 site b/c I don't trust FreePay to ship the one I completed for them a month or so ago).

I feel like I'm divorcing FreePay, but I can't get away from her/it until I get the shit she/it promised me. The bitch![/quote397107925d]

at least you dont have any kids and arent up for any alimony.[/quote397107925d]

A friendly reminder... When you get married.. Get a pre-nup.

good2speed

19-04-2006 12:31:49

[quoteafdb83ff72="h3x"][quoteafdb83ff72="good2speed"][quoteafdb83ff72="mykevermin"][quoteafdb83ff72="Menotti"][bafdb83ff72]what about the people who don't know about forums like these?[/bafdb83ff72][/quoteafdb83ff72]

Shaddup and stop acting like you care about those people. The moment the doorbell rings with a FreePay item for you from the 360 site, you'll drop this thread like a bad habit.

I'm the same way, but I'm not going to pretend like I care about anyone else, including you, getting yours. I know well enough to not do FP sites anymore (and I'm lithiscloseli to completing the TraInn PS3 site b/c I don't trust FreePay to ship the one I completed for them a month or so ago).

I feel like I'm divorcing FreePay, but I can't get away from her/it until I get the shit she/it promised me. The bitch![/quoteafdb83ff72]

at least you dont have any kids and arent up for any alimony.[/quoteafdb83ff72]

A friendly reminder... When you get married.. Get a pre-nup.[/quoteafdb83ff72]

what if your the poor one going into a marriage

dmorris68

19-04-2006 12:34:53

[quote4d18b499e4="h3x"]You're a fucking idiot.[/quote4d18b499e4]
Just some friendly advice -- you might want to (re) familiarize yourself with this thread

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=30485

You don't have to agree with what they're saying, but you don't have to resort to abusive namecalling, either.

h3x

19-04-2006 12:38:32

[quotef4df14c51d="dmorris68"][quotef4df14c51d="h3x"]You're a fucking idiot.[/quotef4df14c51d]
Just some friendly advice -- you might want to (re) familiarize yourself with this thread

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=30485

You don't have to agree with what they're saying, but you don't have to resort to abusive namecalling, either.[/quotef4df14c51d]

I know the rules.. It won't happen again.

CougarKid

19-04-2006 12:43:19

I went back to processing.

iamzim

19-04-2006 12:59:55

WOOHOO!!!! I got a response from CS in LESS THAN A DAY!!! I got the not till july answer. I asked jake about the GC, and he's working on it for me ) Hopefully I'll have good news later today (or tomorrow)

Jake

19-04-2006 13:16:35

[quote0d83a8774a="kagai"]
Read my post more carefully next time. When we begin the process of approving people (e.g. they haven't started)...your own companies words. Oh yeah, and just ignore the rest of my post!

Let's see, a few GCs for the [b0d83a8774a]few[/b0d83a8774a] that were approved, yep. Smoke screens, stalling tactics, dates pushed around, conflicting information, check! Mass posting of people finally getting through the approval process, nope. Everyone being offered GCs like a legitimate company would, nope.
[/quote0d83a8774a]

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=37678

Perhaps you should read that thread.

http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=52046

and that one.

200 GC orders fulfilled isn't just a [i0d83a8774a]few[/i0d83a8774a]

I admit, we still have some improvements to make but we are well on the way to making them happen.

Jake

19-04-2006 13:29:50

[quote0437f84163="kagai"]
Thanks, but I've read it, twice over...what's your point? Not hearing of any Xbox accounts getting approved, where are the posts for that? Even their CS says they still aren't approving.
[/quote0437f84163]

Read the third post here

http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=52069

We aren't just approving arbitrarily. We are approving everyone in the queue.

[quote0437f84163="kagai"]
And, I'm really glad that the people that have been waiting months upon months for their 360 are finally getting what they deserve, no doubt they do deserve it, but why aren't they offering everyone GCs?
[/quote0437f84163]

If you actually looked around on the forum a bit, you would have seen an announcement on my part regarding this. Instead, you launch accusations based on looking at two or three threads.

[quote0437f84163="kagai"]
Also, why was there even a problem with approvals anyway? This type of lag in the approval process is totally fabricated. There was no need for it to become so backed up in the first place...but, of course, no one has an answer to that[/quote0437f84163]

I have explained this to a few people but once again, you act as if you have all of the answers without any information. We made a mistake which resulted in some problems. Those problems have since been resolved.


[quote0437f84163="kagai"]
...just a simple hey were getting back on track. Ok. Great. What the hell does that mean, 5 a week, 100 a week, 1000 a week???? Throw a couple of tidbits out and watch the pigeons flock.
[/quote0437f84163]

The value of gifts to be shipped out per week is substantial. The actual value is quite frankly, none of your business.

[quote0437f84163="kagai"]
Don't be surprised that the day after the first wave of expiration dates passes, everyone gets an update that enough of their referrals were DQ'd to put them one under the requirement, but, oh so sorry, you're past the expiration date, so you didn't make it! cry[/quote0437f84163]

Read our Terms and Conditions very carefully for some insight as to how this hypothetical situation may be handled.

kagai

19-04-2006 14:11:08

[quote3217a53d46="Jake"]
[quote3217a53d46="kagai"]
...just a simple hey were getting back on track. Ok. Great. What the hell does that mean, 5 a week, 100 a week, 1000 a week???? Throw a couple of tidbits out and watch the pigeons flock.
[/quote3217a53d46]

The value of gifts to be shipped out per week is substantial. The actual value is quite frankly, none of your business.

[/quote3217a53d46]

That's pretty rude to say, considering this comment wasn't even about shipped products, but on approvals being processed. That's my whole point, processing approvals, processing approvals, processing approvals.

Regardless, I am done with posting about this. I'll either get my product as should happen, or I won't.. I will let FreePay's actions speak and wait to see if I've been right or wrong. If I've been wrong, and I get this resolved in a reasonable amount of time, and not months, I will post a sincere apology...You can attack me and my comments all you want, but I know their are a lot of people that feel the same way that I do and are truly concerned that they won't get their product.

All of my comments and everyone else's negative comments could have been avoided, if the lines of communication had been open and clear from day one of all of these issues. Simple customer service (was in it for 12 years, know all about it!)

sha316

19-04-2006 14:11:13

I got my giftcard confirmation email today. Thanks Jake and Freepay!!!!

Jet05

19-04-2006 15:58:35

so jake, can i still get a gc instead of a xbox

dino01gts

19-04-2006 17:57:48

Wolfboy, so your so called “Godfather” or next your “Dad” or whatever you want to call him runs a software company that’s is worth quote “hundreds of millions of dollars” and your a new moderator on a free i-pod message board. Dang, don’t set your goals to high. Besides your hundreds of worthless posts a day to this board, do you contribute to society in any way positive way. We all know you have no life outside this message board due to your 5000+ posts in less then two years, and your average 1.8 seconds response time to anyone’s post. Come on man your 24 years old. Aren’t your parents getting sick and tired of you being on their computer all day, anxiously staring at the screen hoping for some to make a post so you can respond in record time. Besides being probably the biggest brown-nosing prick in history do you have any kind of social life. Boyfriend, Girlfriend, dog, etc. An old girlfriend of mine is a Junior at Vanguard just 15 minutes away from you in Irvine. I’m sure she’ll introduce you to some cute local guys.. Whatever it takes, to get you some kind of excitement in your regular worthless pathetic life filled with being a moderator. Let me know and I’ll give her a call. All jokes aside I’m being serious.

dino01gts

19-04-2006 17:58:42

[quotebc164c1cc0="dino01gts"]Wolfboy, so your so called “Godfather” or next your “Dad” or whatever you want to call him runs a software company that’s is worth quote “hundreds of millions of dollars” and your a new moderator on a free i-pod message board. Dang, don’t set your goals to high. Besides your hundreds of worthless posts a day to this board, do you contribute to society in any way positive way. We all know you have no life outside this message board due to your 5000+ posts in less then two years, and your average 1.8 seconds response time to anyone’s post. Come on man your 24 years old. Aren’t your parents getting sick and tired of you being on their computer all day, anxiously staring at the screen hoping for some to make a post so you can respond in record time. Besides being probably the biggest brown-nosing prick in history do you have any kind of social life. Boyfriend, Girlfriend, dog, etc. An old girlfriend of mine is a Junior at Vanguard just 15 minutes away from you in Irvine. I’m sure she’ll introduce you to some cute local guys.. Whatever it takes, to get you some kind of excitement in your regular worthless pathetic life filled with being a moderator. Let me know and I’ll give her a call. All jokes aside I’m being serious.[/quotebc164c1cc0]

Wolfboy, nice try on banning my ip addresses. Your such a tool.

CollidgeGraduit

19-04-2006 18:03:18

I marvel at your lack of grasp on homonyms and contractions

Wolfeman

19-04-2006 18:35:54

[quote95f236f5a9="dino01gts"]Wolfboy, so your so called “Godfather” or next your “Dad” or whatever you want to call him runs a software company that’s is worth quote “hundreds of millions of dollars” and your a new moderator on a free i-pod message board. Dang, don’t set your goals to high. Besides your hundreds of worthless posts a day to this board, do you contribute to society in any way positive way. We all know you have no life outside this message board due to your 5000+ posts in less then two years, and your average 1.8 seconds response time to anyone’s post. Come on man your 24 years old. Aren’t your parents getting sick and tired of you being on their computer all day, anxiously staring at the screen hoping for some to make a post so you can respond in record time. Besides being probably the biggest brown-nosing prick in history do you have any kind of social life. Boyfriend, Girlfriend, dog, etc. An old girlfriend of mine is a Junior at Vanguard just 15 minutes away from you in Irvine. I’m sure she’ll introduce you to some cute local guys.. Whatever it takes, to get you some kind of excitement in your regular worthless pathetic life filled with being a moderator. Let me know and I’ll give her a call. All jokes aside I’m being serious.[/quote95f236f5a9]
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/3ed1090d0364d7e31762a26dc369b470.gif[" alt=""/img95f236f5a9]
Man you are one that keeps getting banned and coming back. You pick internet fights and call me sad. Thats irony right there. I'm going to change my title to "Biggest brown-nosing prick in history", I'M FAMOUS!!!

CollidgeGraduit

19-04-2006 18:46:21

[quote4e129bcf97="CollidgeGraduit"]I marvel at your lack of grasp on homonyms and contractions[/quote4e129bcf97]

By the way, my wife informed me that her 2nd grade students are learning the difference between YOUR and YOU'RE, and THEY'RE, THEIR, and THERE.

good2speed

20-04-2006 07:05:21

[quotebecfe2406f="dino01gts"]Wolfboy, so your so called “Godfather” or next your “Dad” or whatever you want to call him runs a software company that’s is worth quote “hundreds of millions of dollars” and your a new moderator on a free i-pod message board. Dang, don’t set your goals to high. Besides your hundreds of worthless posts a day to this board, do you contribute to society in any way positive way. We all know you have no life outside this message board due to your 5000+ posts in less then two years, and your average 1.8 seconds response time to anyone’s post. Come on man your 24 years old. Aren’t your parents getting sick and tired of you being on their computer all day, anxiously staring at the screen hoping for some to make a post so you can respond in record time. Besides being probably the biggest brown-nosing prick in history do you have any kind of social life. Boyfriend, Girlfriend, dog, etc. An old girlfriend of mine is a Junior at Vanguard just 15 minutes away from you in Irvine. I’m sure she’ll introduce you to some cute local guys.. Whatever it takes, to get you some kind of excitement in your regular worthless pathetic life filled with being a moderator. Let me know and I’ll give her a call. All jokes aside I’m being serious.[/quotebecfe2406f]

that is a very very funny post. This guy is a comedian. LOL.

Wolfe fire back dont let him do you like that

Wolfeman

20-04-2006 12:46:34

[quotedf9265a252="good2speed"][quotedf9265a252="dino01gts"]Wolfboy, so your so called “Godfather” or next your “Dad” or whatever you want to call him runs a software company that’s is worth quote “hundreds of millions of dollars” and your a new moderator on a free i-pod message board. Dang, don’t set your goals to high. Besides your hundreds of worthless posts a day to this board, do you contribute to society in any way positive way. We all know you have no life outside this message board due to your 5000+ posts in less then two years, and your average 1.8 seconds response time to anyone’s post. Come on man your 24 years old. Aren’t your parents getting sick and tired of you being on their computer all day, anxiously staring at the screen hoping for some to make a post so you can respond in record time. Besides being probably the biggest brown-nosing prick in history do you have any kind of social life. Boyfriend, Girlfriend, dog, etc. An old girlfriend of mine is a Junior at Vanguard just 15 minutes away from you in Irvine. I’m sure she’ll introduce you to some cute local guys.. Whatever it takes, to get you some kind of excitement in your regular worthless pathetic life filled with being a moderator. Let me know and I’ll give her a call. All jokes aside I’m being serious.[/quotedf9265a252]

that is a very very funny post. This guy is a comedian. LOL.

Wolfe fire back dont let him do you like that[/quotedf9265a252]
I don't need to. His retardation speaks for itself...

tomraffe

20-04-2006 13:01:47

Surely the availability of products varies from country to country as they use different suppliers in different countries. What does this mean for the state of UK availability?

Also I think its unfair that I cannot get a GC because I am in the UK. I would have one if I was offered!

thenameisjoe

20-04-2006 16:40:13

Well, got my gc today so I guess I'm done. So long Freepay I'm done. Funny thing is BestBuy had 4 premiums on the shelf and the local toys r' us had about [be376352ca3]20!!![/be376352ca3] Hilarious. I think I'll go with the "Freepay saving money" theory.

Anyway peace out Freepay and Jake. Hope you and the mods of FIPG have a wonderful life together. wink

CougarKid

20-04-2006 17:18:17

I ordered on 1/18/2006, can I order just the GC? I can't stand waiting anymore.

Menotti

21-04-2006 10:19:34

[quote15bf69b0a4="CougarKid"]I ordered on 1/18/2006, can I order just the GC? I can't stand waiting anymore.[/quote15bf69b0a4]

It doesn't seem clear when they might be taking more GC orders.

champ2131

21-04-2006 10:49:31

In closing I just want to say thanks to Jake, I have my GC. woot I'm done with freebie offers now and good luck to everyone else waiting on a 360, I truly believe Freepay will come through for you, but the question is liwhen?li.

h3x

21-04-2006 11:23:54

[quote0f0d49238d]Apr 21, 2006 754 AM

Arrived at FedEx location

ANCHORAGE, AK[/quote0f0d49238d]

Almost here... )

CougarKid

21-04-2006 12:06:17

[quote6f1e54555a="Menotti"][quote6f1e54555a="CougarKid"]I ordered on 1/18/2006, can I order just the GC? I can't stand waiting anymore.[/quote6f1e54555a]

It doesn't seem clear when they might be taking more GC orders.[/quote6f1e54555a]

I don't want the GC really, but if it's the only resort I'll go with that.

Menotti

21-04-2006 12:16:13

[quotef3b47ce84d="CougarKid"][quotef3b47ce84d="Menotti"][quotef3b47ce84d="CougarKid"]I ordered on 1/18/2006, can I order just the GC? I can't stand waiting anymore.[/quotef3b47ce84d]

It doesn't seem clear when they might be taking more GC orders.[/quotef3b47ce84d]

I don't want the GC really, but if it's the only resort I'll go with that.[/quotef3b47ce84d]

Same here. According to their info some people have gotten about a July date for the units themselves, I think it is abuot time we were able to pull out. I'm not sure why they haven't made the GC option available to the masses yet. Has to be money related.

mpbollywoodking

21-04-2006 12:16:35

I just don't think the GC will cover the whole cost the 360 system.

iamzim

21-04-2006 12:20:57

^I didn't want a GC either...but i'm not waiting till july!! also..i just didnt want to pay for taxes, but I have a friend that will buy it for me at a certain retail store that actually gives a discount on it! (the discount is just enough to null the taxes! WOOHOO!!! so that'll work out well for me! I'm just waiting on approval for it now!

CougarKid

21-04-2006 12:26:25

[quote83098919d8="Menotti"][quote83098919d8="CougarKid"][quote83098919d8="Menotti"][quote83098919d8="CougarKid"]I ordered on 1/18/2006, can I order just the GC? I can't stand waiting anymore.[/quote83098919d8]

It doesn't seem clear when they might be taking more GC orders.[/quote83098919d8]

I don't want the GC really, but if it's the only resort I'll go with that.[/quote83098919d8]

Same here. According to their info some people have gotten about a July date for the units themselves, I think it is abuot time we were able to pull out. I'm not sure why they haven't made the GC option available to the masses yet. Has to be money related.[/quote83098919d8]

Yeah I don't want to wait till July. cry

Truxity.net

21-04-2006 12:44:13

Got my 360 with the GC's yesterday with a wired controller and stand fan. total was $480 something

twoput

21-04-2006 13:02:39

Just found this site after getting fed up with the lack of information from C.S at freepay.My order was placed 11/2005 and although I'm glad to see a FEW getting G.C's we all should have been made aware of them(by that I mean not having to search all over other sites & posts) and given the option.Premium systems are on the shelf of most retail stores here, if freepay wanted them you would think they could come up with some,but if their holding out for 1 shipment to cover ALL orders it may never happen. (

CougarKid

21-04-2006 13:08:36

Perhaps they should send out GC's to everyone who wants one. Thus lowering the amount of people who want the system shipped to them.

And finally allowing the first shipment come a little faster.

twoput

21-04-2006 13:57:33

Just received another reply from C.S about G.C's they say they were offered last month for 2 weeks on a CASE by CASE base. Looking in the G.C thread some of those who received them were from a couple month's before me and some were from a couple of months after, I wonder exactly what CASE by CASE consisted of ?

Menotti

21-04-2006 14:00:38

[quotee4a69dc857="mpbollywoodking"]I just don't think the GC will cover the whole cost the 360 system.[/quotee4a69dc857]

it doesn't. it's $400, the prem system is $400 + tax.

Menotti

21-04-2006 14:03:05

[quote536b86fda5="CougarKid"]Perhaps they should send out GC's to everyone who wants one. Thus lowering the amount of people who want the system shipped to them.

And finally allowing the first shipment come a little faster.[/quote536b86fda5]

There is obviously some reason why they are not doing that. If they could, they would have made that an option for all of their orders, not just a secret case-by-case.

The fact that they simply won't shell $400 to each one of their orders (obviously the easiest route) is indicating some type of internal money problems.

champ2131

21-04-2006 14:38:42

[quotefb12275254="Menotti"][quotefb12275254="CougarKid"]Perhaps they should send out GC's to everyone who wants one. Thus lowering the amount of people who want the system shipped to them.

And finally allowing the first shipment come a little faster.[/quotefb12275254]

There is obviously some reason why they are not doing that. If they could, they would have made that an option for all of their orders, not just a secret case-by-case.

The fact that they simply won't shell $400 to each one of their orders (obviously the easiest route) is indicating some type of internal money problems.[/quotefb12275254]

I would have to disagree with you....Don't you think it is a better business decision to try to buy them in bulk and at a cheaper pricetag. The bottom line is they are not making as much profit as they can when they have to give a $400 GC. Not that I think it is ok for them to stall everyone and do business the way they are, because I think they handled this situation totally wrong. That is why I think they were trying to keep the giftcard option at a minimum and give that option to the well educated Freebie Users. Because we voice our dissatisfaction the most.

CougarKid

21-04-2006 15:32:55

Didn't they say that they are getting that at the retail price of $399.99 either way?

I'm sure they aren't just sitting around doing nothing. But it sure looks like it when we're told nothing.

Menotti

21-04-2006 19:00:38

[quote231cb179d6="champ2131"][quote231cb179d6="Menotti"][quote231cb179d6="CougarKid"]Perhaps they should send out GC's to everyone who wants one. Thus lowering the amount of people who want the system shipped to them.

And finally allowing the first shipment come a little faster.[/quote231cb179d6]

There is obviously some reason why they are not doing that. If they could, they would have made that an option for all of their orders, not just a secret case-by-case.

The fact that they simply won't shell $400 to each one of their orders (obviously the easiest route) is indicating some type of internal money problems.[/quote231cb179d6]

I would have to disagree with you....Don't you think it is a better business decision to try to buy them in bulk and at a cheaper pricetag. The bottom line is they are not making as much profit as they can when they have to give a $400 GC. Not that I think it is ok for them to stall everyone and do business the way they are, because I think they handled this situation totally wrong. That is why I think they were trying to keep the giftcard option at a minimum and give that option to the well educated Freebie Users. Because we voice our dissatisfaction the most.[/quote231cb179d6]

They've actually said that they don't get bulk discounts on their items. I'm not sure if I believe that, but it's what they've said.

h3x

21-04-2006 20:14:25

Dammit.. They attempted to deliver it at noon, but I wasn't here evil

Got to wait until Monday to pick it up ?

I suppose it doesn't matter since BestBuy.com is sold out of the 360s and I have to wait until its available again.

ffactoryxx

21-04-2006 20:57:49

Well I got an XBOX 360 with my GC's

had $400 from this + 300 from freepays gc site


Got Xbox 360, wired controller, graw, oblivion and 2 year service plan. Spent $675 total.

CAN YOU SAY AWESOME

h3x

21-04-2006 21:31:15

[quotecd077f3410="ffactoryxx"]Well I got an XBOX 360 with my GC's

had $400 from this + 300 from freepays gc site


Got Xbox 360, wired controller, graw, oblivion and 2 year service plan. Spent $675 total.

CAN YOU SAY AWESOME[/quotecd077f3410]

I can't believe you fell for the 2 year service plan... that's the biggest scam there is... I would know, I worked at that shit hole for 6 months. In fact, its a condition of employment that you hassle the customer [bcd077f3410]3[/bcd077f3410] times with any Replacement/Service Plan... You have to take 3 No's before totaling out the transaction.

The manager in Geek Squad where I worked was arguing with a customer who was purchasing a laptop (who happened to be on vacation from Mexico).. Some of the things he said to this poor man was shocking (coming from a manager to a guy who doesn't speak good english to begin with).. "LOOK.. YOU WOULD BE [bcd077f3410]STUPID[/bcd077f3410] IF YOU DIDN'T GET THE SERVICE PLAN.. THEY DO NOT COVER YOU IN MEXICO"

and this guy gave more than 3 no's, and the manager kept on going and going until the Mexican told him he would not buy it if he kept going on.. The manager just said 'Fine' in a snobby tone and told the cashier that was there to continue the transaction.. I was working in Geek Squad which was next to the counter in the Computers department.

To sum it all up, you got suckered.

Wolfeman

21-04-2006 22:26:17

The service plan is stupid until your shit breaks...

jeff7602

22-04-2006 00:10:42

I always considered myself a patient person until I started waiting for stuff from freepay. A day feels like a week, and we've been waiting months...it feels like years. I need more patience!!! I want a 360.

h3x

22-04-2006 00:15:36

[quotee9126ee5f1="Wolfeman"]The service plan is stupid until your shit breaks...[/quotee9126ee5f1]

The service plan is stupid. Period. Theres a lot of restrictions on the service plan... Example... If anything happens to the screen or display on an iPod and you have a service plan on it... Guess what? YOU'RE FUCKED.

mpbollywoodking

22-04-2006 04:20:40

[quotec61518792d="Menotti"][quotec61518792d="mpbollywoodking"]I just don't think the GC will cover the whole cost the 360 system.[/quotec61518792d]

it doesn't. it's $400, the prem system is $400 + tax.[/quotec61518792d]


Isn't the C suppose to be $25, to cover the system plus any taxes? I mean, doesn't Trainn do that for the Paypal option?

Anywayz, if the Premium system is like $399.99, the tax is like 18 bucks for me, that's alright i guess........ (

CollidgeGraduit

22-04-2006 05:28:37

[quote0708f9dc7d="mpbollywoodking"][quote0708f9dc7d="Menotti"][quote0708f9dc7d="mpbollywoodking"]I just don't think the GC will cover the whole cost the 360 system.[/quote0708f9dc7d]

it doesn't. it's $400, the prem system is $400 + tax.[/quote0708f9dc7d]


Isn't the C suppose to be $25, to cover the system plus any taxes? I mean, doesn't Trainn do that for the Paypal option?

Anywayz, if the Premium system is like $399.99, the tax is like 18 bucks for me, that's alright i guess........ ([/quote0708f9dc7d]

I don't get why people are STILL hung up on this. FreePay's going to send a giftcard equivalent to what their cost would be -- since they probably aren't going to be getting the 360s from someone with a physical presence in DC - hence, no tax.

If you are worried about the tax -- take the $400 in GCs for another store that you would buy things from anyway, like clothes, and buy your 360 with cash.

Or, just pony up the $20 and be glad the 360 didn't cost you $420

mpbollywoodking

22-04-2006 05:59:22

[quotef6cfa1e3a8="CollidgeGraduit"][quotef6cfa1e3a8="mpbollywoodking"][quotef6cfa1e3a8="Menotti"][quotef6cfa1e3a8="mpbollywoodking"]I just don't think the GC will cover the whole cost the 360 system.[/quotef6cfa1e3a8]

it doesn't. it's $400, the prem system is $400 + tax.[/quotef6cfa1e3a8]


Isn't the C suppose to be $25, to cover the system plus any taxes? I mean, doesn't Trainn do that for the Paypal option?

Anywayz, if the Premium system is like $399.99, the tax is like 18 bucks for me, that's alright i guess........ ([/quotef6cfa1e3a8]

I don't get why people are STILL hung up on this. FreePay's going to send a giftcard equivalent to what their cost would be -- since they probably aren't going to be getting the 360s from someone with a physical presence in DC - hence, no tax.

If you are worried about the tax -- take the $400 in GCs for another store that you would buy things from anyway, like clothes, and buy your 360 with cash.

Or, just pony up the $20 and be glad the 360 didn't cost you $420[/quotef6cfa1e3a8]

if other sites offer Paypal option, that means that they don't send the system to you, hence no tax that they pay, but they do put the amount of money that compensate for the item as well as any possible taxes to your Paypal account.

Plus, the amount of offers that are completed by you as well as your referrals compensate the amount of the 360 (including tax). That is nine offers, you and your 8 referrals, that have completed offers. So, aint that like $450 or alittle less that Freepay recieved from the subscriptions?

I'm not complaining, a free item is a free item to me, i can dish out 20 bucks for tax, but i'm just saying that the Giftcard doesn't cover the cost, it's not just Freepay itself, other sites as well that have a Paypal option, but I do see some sites that add an extra 25 bucks to the Paypal option to cover any taxes.

ffactoryxx

22-04-2006 12:07:34

I had 700 gc's. The fuck if i care.

It was $50 for a 2 year service plan. Id rather have that on it considering ill prolly take it with me to the shore sometimes or to afriends. For a couple $ a month, i think the investment was ok.

h3x

22-04-2006 13:49:21

[quotefa54c0f5dd="ffactoryxx"]I had 700 gc's. The fuck if i care.

It was $50 for a 2 year service plan. Id rather have that on it considering ill prolly take it with me to the shore sometimes or to afriends. For a couple $ a month, i think the investment was ok.[/quotefa54c0f5dd]

To each his own... But that $50 could have been spent on something more useful than a shitty service plan that isn't going to protect you in the longrun.

ffactoryxx

22-04-2006 13:50:48

[quote600312083e="h3x"][quote600312083e="ffactoryxx"]I had 700 gc's. The fuck if i care.

It was $50 for a 2 year service plan. Id rather have that on it considering ill prolly take it with me to the shore sometimes or to afriends. For a couple $ a month, i think the investment was ok.[/quote600312083e]

To each his own... But that $50 could have been spent on something more useful than a shitty service plan that isn't going to protect you in the longrun.[/quote600312083e]

At least i got my 360 and am done with freepay unlike half the people still wating for thier xboxs who didnt get in on the gc option

tomraffe

22-04-2006 14:59:43

Or live in the UK...

CollidgeGraduit

22-04-2006 15:03:36

[quoteebe782ca26="tomraffe"]Or live in the UK...[/quoteebe782ca26]

My guess is Freepay doesn't have a GC supplier in the UK. I don't think they'd be offering the GCs to US residents if they didn't already have something established.

CougarKid

23-04-2006 00:30:20

[quote87c3a03fd6="ffactoryxx"][quote87c3a03fd6="h3x"][quote87c3a03fd6="ffactoryxx"]I had 700 gc's. The fuck if i care.

It was $50 for a 2 year service plan. Id rather have that on it considering ill prolly take it with me to the shore sometimes or to afriends. For a couple $ a month, i think the investment was ok.[/quote87c3a03fd6]

To each his own... But that $50 could have been spent on something more useful than a shitty service plan that isn't going to protect you in the longrun.[/quote87c3a03fd6]

At least i got my 360 and am done with freepay unlike half the people still wating for thier xboxs who didnt get in on the gc option[/quote87c3a03fd6]

Not cool....... cry

If the guy wants a $50 service plan more power to him no?

plusnightlife

23-04-2006 00:42:28

[quotebfe5f583bb="h3x"]To each his own... But that $50 could have been spent on something more useful than a shitty service plan that isn't going to protect you in the longrun.[/quotebfe5f583bb]

like another game P

ffactoryxx

23-04-2006 11:00:13

I still got 60 bones to BB. Ill hold off on a game until something good comes out like

plusnightlife

23-04-2006 19:43:05

yeah, i can't wait to get Resident Evil 5, Halo 3, NCAA 2007, Hitman Blood Money, and even N3 if I can find it

iamzim

24-04-2006 04:33:49

Just to throw up another opinion...I used to work at BBY, and I sold many service plans....I also purchase a service plan on every (large) electronic item I purchase. Most of the plans, however are retarded! I'm not going to buy a $30 service plan, on a Microwave that cost me $60!!! I am, however, going to buy a $100 service plan, on a Camcorder that cost me $900 and a $150 plan for a laptop that cost me $2000. Why you might ask?? Because it covers the BATTERY!!! That alone, is almost worth the cost of the PSP/PRP. Also, if you do have some pixels go out on a screen, the service plan would cover that too! (i had bad pixels on a PSP, brought it in, and got a new one) I have replaced batteries for laptops, and camcorders, (as well as the free cleanings of the lenses and tape recorders for the camcorder) So, I'd say I have got my money worth from most of them. It does suck though, when your laptop battery (that they replaced) catches fire 1 month after the service plan expires!!!!!!!!

I won't be buying the service plan for my 360....but that's because I'm getting it from walmart! but, if i was getting it from bby, i'd get it...just like i got the one on my original xbox.

Menotti

24-04-2006 06:37:49

it's Monday morning and I'm crossing my fingers. I feel good about this week...come on!

mpbollywoodking

24-04-2006 15:09:26

I just went STV on my XBox360 account. Does that mean the GC or the system?

Are people waiting while they are STV'ed or in Processing, or both?

Wolfeman

24-04-2006 15:10:25

Did you request a GC?

mpbollywoodking

24-04-2006 15:11:04

yes, would there be a pic of the GC instead of the system?

Wolfeman

24-04-2006 15:12:11

No, if you are STV and requested the GC, the giftcard should be there within 24 hours. Keep an eye on your spam filter...

mpbollywoodking

24-04-2006 15:13:00

oh, they don't mail u the giftcard? would my status change to shipped?

Wolfeman

24-04-2006 15:14:28

No the giftcard comes via email and you can order what store(s) you'd like it for. Mine was STV when I got my card...

mpbollywoodking

24-04-2006 15:19:07

okay, is there anything i need to know that i may have missed in this thread.

Wolfeman

24-04-2006 15:20:31

Nope, just wait for the email and follow the instructions. Its pretty simple...

mpbollywoodking

24-04-2006 15:24:49

if i use hotmail, where do i add giftcertificates.com to the saved list to ensure that it comes to my inbox rather than the junk?

jeff7602

24-04-2006 18:13:31

Has anyone been approved lately? The only action I've seen recently on the 360 site is a few getting their giftcards.

iamzim

25-04-2006 04:51:38

I just went STV. Now I'm going to have to keep checking my email to make sure my email from GC.com doesnt go to my spam folder.

mpbollywoodking

25-04-2006 07:56:55

how would we know if we went STV for the GC or the system itself?

I have yet to get an email from the GC. If i'm STV'ed for the system, than im' willing to wait rather than get the GC

Kinmar

25-04-2006 08:48:43

Well just got my final referral... sending approval form in tomorrow. Now i guess all i have to do is wait, and wait, and wait. Hopefully things will speed up since jake said they are reviewing approval forms again.

jeff7602

25-04-2006 11:12:21

He said that, but I'm not sure if they are doing the 360 forms yet, no one has reported an approval in the time chart thread.

shaggz

25-04-2006 11:39:48

I went STV this morning as well.

mpbollywoodking

25-04-2006 11:47:22

is that for the giftcard or the system? i'm confused

Menotti

25-04-2006 11:56:32

[quote6612c5f3b8="mpbollywoodking"]is that for the giftcard or the system? i'm confused[/quote6612c5f3b8]

from what I've read, it seems to be the GC.

mpbollywoodking

25-04-2006 11:59:37

how long does it take for the GC email to show?

Flip21

25-04-2006 14:11:26

Well, Jake wrote me back saying he'd inquired about my receiving a giftcard in place of the xbox360 itself, but when I checked my account today, I'd lost credit for completing an offer (which I did in June of 2005).

Maybe (hopefully) they're linked.

tomraffe

25-04-2006 15:16:22

[quote13c6d31c7b="CollidgeGraduit"][quote13c6d31c7b="tomraffe"]Or live in the UK...[/quote13c6d31c7b]

My guess is Freepay doesn't have a GC supplier in the UK. I don't think they'd be offering the GCs to US residents if they didn't already have something established.[/quote13c6d31c7b]

giftcards.freepay is offered in the UK so they do already have a giftcard supplier.

mpbollywoodking

25-04-2006 15:17:40

i want my GiftCard NOW P

for the people who got STD's.....i mean STV's, tell us when u get ur email. I haven't got one yet

CougarKid

25-04-2006 16:30:13

[quote7de21e18fa="mpbollywoodking"]i want my GiftCard NOW P

for the people who got STD's.....i mean STV's, tell us when u get ur email. I haven't got one yet[/quote7de21e18fa]

I went into processing about 5 hours before you. I want one too if we are going to be waiting 3 more months for this thing.

mpbollywoodking

25-04-2006 16:31:35

well, i've been processing since Jan 18. I went STV yesterday for the GiftCard, but i still haven't got the email yet. Aren't suppose to get it in 24 hours?

h3x

25-04-2006 16:34:37

[quoteef233d5c5a="mpbollywoodking"]well, i've been processing since Jan 18. I went STV yesterday for the GiftCard, but i still haven't got the email yet. Aren't suppose to get it in 24 hours?[/quoteef233d5c5a]

PM Jake.. I think they did all the older STV dates in one fell swoop.. See when they plan to send the next batch out.

Menotti

25-04-2006 18:08:35

[quotec8ffbc0ec5="h3x"][quotec8ffbc0ec5="mpbollywoodking"]well, i've been processing since Jan 18. I went STV yesterday for the GiftCard, but i still haven't got the email yet. Aren't suppose to get it in 24 hours?[/quotec8ffbc0ec5]

PM Jake.. I think they did all the older STV dates in one fell swoop.. See when they plan to send the next batch out.[/quotec8ffbc0ec5]

I PMed Jake. He said he was not aware of when the next batch is going out (people who are currently STV)

plusnightlife

25-04-2006 23:42:51

what do you think are my chances of getting approved if i have 9 green if 8 are required?

Menotti

26-04-2006 09:14:47

[quote01605f7781="plusnightlife"]what do you think are my chances of getting approved if i have 9 green if 8 are required?[/quote01605f7781]

Prob won't get approved for a while. My guess is they want to clear out their current orders before touching new approvals.

Menotti

26-04-2006 09:15:02

Anyone get their giftcards email yet?

iamzim

26-04-2006 11:29:54

nope. and i even set my gmail up to forward that email to my work email addy!

mpbollywoodking

26-04-2006 12:50:45

i haven either, than i again, i went STV two day ago, so it's still too early for me

twoput

26-04-2006 15:52:38

Nothing here either, went STV 4-24 hope it's soon lol

Menotti

27-04-2006 11:47:35

Just received a reply from CS about when the people who went STV for giftcards will be getting them
[quote0fb4905bc3]Our operations team will place an order through giftcertificates.com sometime next week. As soon as we receive confirmation from them that the order went through you will receive your gift certificate within 7-10 business days or less.[/quote0fb4905bc3]

So, it sounds like they will place the order [i0fb4905bc3]sometime[/i0fb4905bc3] next week, then they will get a confirmation from them at [i0fb4905bc3]sometime[/i0fb4905bc3]. Then, we will get the gift cert.

So much for "fixed and substantial" weekly order fulfillment. Substantial doesn't mean zero to me. How is it fair that they might just skip fulfillment for certain items on different weeks? It seems like they should be concentrating on this backlog more than anything else right now. If anything, they should be using these "substantial" weekly shipments on 360 giftcards until they clear out.

I'm glad I should finally get it, but I don't appreciate the half-truths that we get from this company all the time.

nickman

27-04-2006 15:15:14

who said that gift card fulfillments specifically would be "fixed and substantial" ? they offer way more gifts, i'm sure they have many orders to place and other things to do in a day.

all of the constant assumptions people are making on this board are ridiculous

CollidgeGraduit

27-04-2006 15:21:03

[quote645aabf5ef="nickman"]who said that gift card fulfillments specifically would be "fixed and substantial" ? they offer way more gifts, i'm sure they have many orders to place and other things to do in a day.

all of the constant assumptions people are making on this board are ridiculous[/quote645aabf5ef]

I NO RITE! PLUS JAEK IZNT GIVING US REMOETS (

Menotti

27-04-2006 16:40:02

[quote221b7766a6="nickman"]who said that gift card fulfillments specifically would be "fixed and substantial" ? they offer way more gifts, i'm sure they have many orders to place and other things to do in a day.

all of the constant assumptions people are making on this board are ridiculous[/quote221b7766a6]

[b221b7766a6]Assumption?[/b221b7766a6]

from http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=37535&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0[]http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=37535&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=0

[quote221b7766a6="Jake"]I just came out of a meeting.

We will be shipping out a fixed amount of product every week going forward. [/quote221b7766a6]

[quote221b7766a6="ffactoryxx"]WHOOT WHOOT.

Steady product mean XBOX 360's and giftcards?[/quote221b7766a6]

[quote221b7766a6="Jake"]360s I am not sure.

Giftcards yes.[/quote221b7766a6]

[b221b7766a6]I wouldn't call that an assumption. It seems the assumption was you thinking I haven't read up on the current situation.[/b221b7766a6]

nickman

27-04-2006 23:04:16

yeah, jake said "fixed amount of product"

how does that translate into "we will be fulfilling a substantial amount of giftcards every week" ?

like i said, they offer more than just giftcards. stuff doesn't happen overnight.

Jake

28-04-2006 07:11:04

[quote07bb4f240d="nickman"]
like i said, they offer more than just giftcards. stuff doesn't happen overnight.[/quote07bb4f240d]

Exactly.

We ship more than just gift cards. Like I said, we will be shipping a fixed amount of product (in dollar value) each week.

Menotti

28-04-2006 08:42:09

[quote373dfe9bd0="nickman"]yeah, jake said "fixed amount of product"

how does that translate into "we will be fulfilling a substantial amount of giftcards every week" ?

like i said, they offer more than just giftcards. stuff doesn't happen overnight.[/quote373dfe9bd0]

Sorry, when someone asks "does that mean giftcards" and Jake says "yes", that kinda indicated to me that a steady amount of giftcards are being shipped out.

Menotti

28-04-2006 08:43:39

[quote3c84c4ebcf="Jake"][quote3c84c4ebcf="nickman"]
like i said, they offer more than just giftcards. stuff doesn't happen overnight.[/quote3c84c4ebcf]

Exactly.

We ship more than just gift cards. Like I said, we will be shipping a fixed amount of product (in dollar value) each week.[/quote3c84c4ebcf]

Understandable. However, I feel like you guys should concentrate on these orders placed months ago for the 360s. The fulfillment should be in date order. To me, it doesn't appear to be that way.

junkie06

28-04-2006 09:47:49

in 2-3 weeks will be the date freepay launched the 360 site... it will also be a full year since i placed my order...how sad...i promised my bro i would get it to him in nov 2005 now its going to be may 2006......so sad

Jake

28-04-2006 10:14:58

[quote9e51da8acb="Menotti"]
Sorry, when someone asks "does that mean giftcards" and Jake says "yes", that kinda indicated to me that a steady amount of giftcards are being shipped out.[/quote9e51da8acb]

[quote9e51da8acb="Jake"]I just came out of a meeting.

We will be shipping out a fixed amount of [b9e51da8acb]product[/b9e51da8acb] every week going forward.[/quote9e51da8acb]

Since we ship [i9e51da8acb]more[/i9e51da8acb] than just gift cards, your [i9e51da8acb]assumption[/i9e51da8acb] is incorrect.

Jake

28-04-2006 10:16:07

[quote10f0733ed3="Menotti"]
Understandable. However, I feel like you guys should concentrate on these orders placed months ago for the 360s. The fulfillment should be in date order. To me, it doesn't appear to be that way.[/quote10f0733ed3]

Don't try and go off on a tangent to try and give yourself the upper hand. Accept your loss and move on...

We are doing what we can to improve this situation and I can see progress. Like other people have said, this doesn't happen overnight.

You should see all of the forms that prepared for evaluation in the past few days. I have generated quite a stack of them...

Menotti

28-04-2006 10:51:45

[quote3a8919b3f8="Jake"][quote3a8919b3f8="Menotti"]
Sorry, when someone asks "does that mean giftcards" and Jake says "yes", that kinda indicated to me that a steady amount of giftcards are being shipped out.[/quote3a8919b3f8]

[quote3a8919b3f8="Jake"]I just came out of a meeting.

We will be shipping out a fixed amount of [b3a8919b3f8]product[/b3a8919b3f8] every week going forward.[/quote3a8919b3f8]

Since we ship [i3a8919b3f8]more[/i3a8919b3f8] than just gift cards, your [i3a8919b3f8]assumption[/i3a8919b3f8] is incorrect.[/quote3a8919b3f8]

Ok, then I misread because someone asked if that meant giftcards and you said "Giftcards yes"

I think it is easy to see how that can appear to mean that you are shipping an amount of them each week.

Menotti

28-04-2006 10:54:14

[quote9c09935f2c="Jake"][quote9c09935f2c="Menotti"]
Understandable. However, I feel like you guys should concentrate on these orders placed months ago for the 360s. The fulfillment should be in date order. To me, it doesn't appear to be that way.[/quote9c09935f2c]

Don't try and go off on a tangent to try and give yourself the upper hand. Accept your loss and move on...

We are doing what we can to improve this situation and I can see progress. Like other people have said, this doesn't happen overnight.

You should see all of the forms that prepared for evaluation in the past few days. I have generated quite a stack of them...[/quote9c09935f2c]

I do not think I went off on a tangent nor do I see why you would make this having to do with winning or losing. I'm simply suggesting where I believe the priority should fall. For example, many iPods ordered this year have gone out, but there are people who requested GCs for their 360s that have not yet been ordered.

I just think that some of these orders placed almost a year ago should be taken care of first. Not sure why that is considered a tangent.

Jake

28-04-2006 11:02:15

[quote7737cb4956="Menotti"]
I just think that some of these orders placed almost a year ago should be taken care of first. Not sure why that is considered a tangent.[/quote7737cb4956]

Because it has nothing to do with the fact that you made an erroneous interpretation of my statements.

Menotti

28-04-2006 11:17:47

[quote9d5f9c9758="Jake"][quote9d5f9c9758="Menotti"]
I just think that some of these orders placed almost a year ago should be taken care of first. Not sure why that is considered a tangent.[/quote9d5f9c9758]

Because it has nothing to do with the fact that you made an erroneous interpretation of my statements.[/quote9d5f9c9758]

Erroneous but understandable, don't you think?

junkie06

28-04-2006 12:11:04

Jake i appreciate your hard work and keeping us updated....this might be the millions question...but any updates on the 360? )

Jake

01-05-2006 06:45:48

[quote4cc14b948b="Menotti"]
Erroneous but understandable, don't you think?[/quote4cc14b948b]

Nope...since we do send out more than one type of product, me referring to a fixed amount of [i4cc14b948b]product[/i4cc14b948b] does not imply a fixed amount of [i4cc14b948b]gift cards.[/i4cc14b948b] Had we been sending a fixed amount of gift cards, I would have said so.

GirlWonder

01-05-2006 07:31:04

Any new date on the xbox's? everywhere has them on the selfs right now. My local target has a bunch.

Menotti

01-05-2006 08:33:21

[quote62b5670084="Jake"][quote62b5670084="Menotti"]
Erroneous but understandable, don't you think?[/quote62b5670084]

Nope...since we do send out more than one type of product, me referring to a fixed amount of [i62b5670084]product[/i62b5670084] does not imply a fixed amount of [i62b5670084]gift cards.[/i62b5670084] Had we been sending a fixed amount of gift cards, I would have said so.[/quote62b5670084]

Ok I'm sorry for misinterpreting. Someone asked about giftcards and you said yes. It was my first inclination to believe that you guys would clear the GC order log first.

In any case, that order is getting placed this week (hopefully today), yea?

kristylez

01-05-2006 10:50:01

5 months and counting. tsk tsk tsk.
Jake, has any steps been taken to secure a shipment of on-time ps3's?... any effort at all?

ffactoryxx

01-05-2006 11:58:39

[quote4b12a36141="kristylez"]5 months and counting. tsk tsk tsk.
Jake, has any steps been taken to secure a shipment of on-time ps3's?... any effort at all?[/quote4b12a36141]

Ohhh god. The ps3's will be oos longer than xbox 360

Xbox 360 shortage was caused by shortage of the Gdr3 Ram and thats just ram

PS3 is going to have an insane amount of shortages because of cell cpu production which will in shortage for a long time

Menotti

01-05-2006 13:32:51

[quote9cf916b504="ffactoryxx"][quote9cf916b504="kristylez"]5 months and counting. tsk tsk tsk.
Jake, has any steps been taken to secure a shipment of on-time ps3's?... any effort at all?[/quote9cf916b504]

Ohhh god. The ps3's will be oos longer than xbox 360

Xbox 360 shortage was caused by shortage of the Gdr3 Ram and thats just ram

PS3 is going to have an insane amount of shortages because of cell cpu production which will in shortage for a long time[/quote9cf916b504]

Hopefully, Sony will learn from their own and others' mistakes and produce a ton of units before launch.

I don't remember - was the PS2 this scarce 5-6 months after its release?

Wolfeman

01-05-2006 13:34:36

Yes PS2s were hard to get for the first 6-8 months. It doesn't help a company to sell a ton at launch because they are losing a lot of money per unit. They'd rather keep them "hard to get" and keep the hype going...

CougarKid

01-05-2006 17:32:32

Went STV, Swoot!

JerriBlank

01-05-2006 21:43:34

[quoted180dcda9d="GirlWonder"]Any new date on the xbox's? everywhere has them on the selfs right now. My local target has a bunch.[/quoted180dcda9d]

At this point, fulfillment of orders doesn't have anything to do with availability of 360s - it's now about Freepay's apparently precarious financial situation.

Jake can correct me if I'm incorrectly reading between the lines.



jb

Menotti

01-05-2006 23:41:15

[quote179791ae2c="JerriBlank"][quote179791ae2c="GirlWonder"]Any new date on the xbox's? everywhere has them on the selfs right now. My local target has a bunch.[/quote179791ae2c]

At this point, fulfillment of orders doesn't have anything to do with availability of 360s - it's now about Freepay's apparently precarious financial situation.

Jake can correct me if I'm incorrectly reading between the lines.



jb[/quote179791ae2c]

I might have to disagree with that. Many, many stores still don't have them in stock for very long. While I do believe that they are having some financial troubles (seen from weekly limits placed on order fulfillment), the 360 isn't exactly easy to get.

But again, this has nothing to do with fulfillment of the giftcards in place of the 360. I, too, read between the lines at some type of financial issue that is forcing these delays.

Darkfire001

02-05-2006 11:02:16

Service plans are worthless 90% of the time.

[quotef7d6f2b85a] I have replaced batteries for laptops, and camcorders, (as well as the free cleanings of the lenses and tape recorders for the camcorder) [/quotef7d6f2b85a]

Why do you keep having to replace Camcorder battery's? Unless you have a WAY dated videocamera, all "legit" batties you buy now don't have "memory" issues and charge any amount, any time, without issues.

More so on a sitenote, I'd HIGHLY suggest hangling your camera better to reduce tape cleanings (it wears the camera down).

- Use a tape deck or something else to upload footage.
- Try not to mix & match brands of tapes.
- Don't leave tapes in the camera when your done filming.

Stuff like that should insure tape cleanings if ever are far & wide. Lenses if properly protected onnly need an occasional lint wipe, and if its a cheap camera a simple tape head cleaner tape will do just fine (make sure to follow directions or it will ruin your tapeheads).

K, done with my little spiel on camera safety.

iamzim

02-05-2006 12:54:16

Thanks for the info on the camera upkeeping!! As for the replacement batteries. The laptop and camera were both 4 years old when the batteries were replaced (and i replaced them just under 2 years ago) which would purchase date at around 1999 to 2000, so i would consider those dated!! -D ( i havent had a problem with my receint camcorder batteries though!) Also...Do they sell miniDV tapedecks?? I would love to be able to hook that up to my PC, and leave it there, instead of having to take out my camcorder, it's power supply, and it's cables!!

Menotti

02-05-2006 16:26:38

Try to keep it on topic, guys

Menotti

03-05-2006 08:06:05

On 4/27, I was told that [quote94190a1178]Our operations team will place an order through giftcertificates.com sometime next week.[/quote94190a1178]

Well, it's Wednesday and I have to say that I am losing faith. Anyone get any response from CS after 4/27 that may change the situation?

Jake

03-05-2006 09:52:53

[quote2b92f5f8a1="JerriBlank"]
At this point, fulfillment of orders doesn't have anything to do with availability of 360s - it's now about Freepay's apparently precarious financial situation.

Jake can correct me if I'm incorrectly reading between the lines.
jb[/quote2b92f5f8a1]

Incorrect.

We have shipped out over 250 gift cards in place of those 360s. If we had been in a precarious financial position, this would not have happened.

CollidgeGraduit

03-05-2006 10:12:18

[quotee33b115d12="Jake"][quotee33b115d12="JerriBlank"]
At this point, fulfillment of orders doesn't have anything to do with availability of 360s - it's now about Freepay's apparently precarious financial situation.

Jake can correct me if I'm incorrectly reading between the lines.
jb[/quotee33b115d12]

Incorrect.

We have shipped out over 250 gift cards in place of those 360s. If we had been in a precarious financial position, this would not have happened.[/quotee33b115d12]

But...but... the remotes?

thenameisjoe

03-05-2006 10:35:20

[quotec7e072693a="CollidgeGraduit"][quotec7e072693a="Jake"][quotec7e072693a="JerriBlank"]
At this point, fulfillment of orders doesn't have anything to do with availability of 360s - it's now about Freepay's apparently precarious financial situation.

Jake can correct me if I'm incorrectly reading between the lines.
jb[/quotec7e072693a]

Incorrect.

We have shipped out over 250 gift cards in place of those 360s. If we had been in a precarious financial position, this would not have happened.[/quotec7e072693a]

But...but... the remotes?[/quotec7e072693a]

Hey CG, between you and Jake which one of you is the pitcher and which one is the catcher? I mean when your asleep which one is the big spoon and which one is the little spoon? seriously....

CollidgeGraduit

03-05-2006 10:42:26

[quote0bffab1630="thenameisjoe"][quote0bffab1630="CollidgeGraduit"][quote0bffab1630="Jake"][quote0bffab1630="JerriBlank"]
At this point, fulfillment of orders doesn't have anything to do with availability of 360s - it's now about Freepay's apparently precarious financial situation.

Jake can correct me if I'm incorrectly reading between the lines.
jb[/quote0bffab1630]

Incorrect.

We have shipped out over 250 gift cards in place of those 360s. If we had been in a precarious financial position, this would not have happened.[/quote0bffab1630]

But...but... the remotes?[/quote0bffab1630]

Hey CG, between you and Jake which one of you is the pitcher and which one is the catcher? I mean when your asleep which one is the big spoon and which one is the little spoon? seriously....[/quote0bffab1630]

Bye

Menotti

03-05-2006 11:49:41

[quote3805d2caf7="Jake"][quote3805d2caf7="JerriBlank"]
At this point, fulfillment of orders doesn't have anything to do with availability of 360s - it's now about Freepay's apparently precarious financial situation.

Jake can correct me if I'm incorrectly reading between the lines.
jb[/quote3805d2caf7]

Incorrect.

We have shipped out over 250 gift cards in place of those 360s. If we had been in a precarious financial position, this would not have happened.[/quote3805d2caf7]

I think JerriBlank might have been referring to why all of the giftcard orders haven't been fulfilled yet.

In any case - is there an update on those of us who went STV on GCs? CS told me that it would happen this week.

[b3805d2caf7]Edit[/b3805d2caf7] Just got a CS response after I inquired yesterday. It reads
[quote3805d2caf7]Our operations department will place an order one day this week.[/quote3805d2caf7]

Ok, there you have it. Now it has been said twice to me. Hopefully they will follow through.

Rodney

03-05-2006 13:00:37

After I got my giftcard from freepay (in lieu of my xbox360), I called every bestbuy and target within a 25 mile radius of me EVERY day for almost 2 weeks.

Only 1 time did they have the premium systems (1 day before I got my giftcard), and most days they had none.

I think fulfillment and supply is STILL a very big issue.

I just barely got back from bestbuy (a few minutes ago) after they finally got 18 premium systems in. Finally have my xbox360 in hand (with a couple of games).

Menotti

03-05-2006 13:33:11

[quote25181e7e80="Rodney"]After I got my giftcard from freepay (in lieu of my xbox360), I called every bestbuy and target within a 25 mile radius of me EVERY day for almost 2 weeks.

Only 1 time did they have the premium systems (1 day before I got my giftcard), and most days they had none.

I think fulfillment and supply is STILL a very big issue.

I just barely got back from bestbuy (a few minutes ago) after they finally got 18 premium systems in. Finally have my xbox360 in hand (with a couple of games).[/quote25181e7e80]

yeah, fulfilling the 360s themselves is obviously difficult. A lot of people are concerned with the giftcard orders, however.

CougarKid

03-05-2006 20:07:44

Anyone have know when the next shipment of Giftcards is going out?

ffactoryxx

03-05-2006 21:10:17

Supply is availible everywhere. I went into a local high traffic superbest buy 2 weeks ago and they had plenty of premiums. Also used the 360 tracker when i got home and every store in my 20 mile raidus had xbox 360's and that is a lot of best buys and circuit citys

Menotti

03-05-2006 22:34:10

[quotea1b8135aaa="ffactoryxx"]Supply is availible everywhere. I went into a local high traffic superbest buy 2 weeks ago and they had plenty of premiums. Also used the 360 tracker when i got home and every store in my 20 mile raidus had xbox 360's and that is a lot of best buys and circuit citys[/quotea1b8135aaa]

Well I've called some high traffic BBYs in my area and they arent' available, so it's really area dependent.

Also, you can't really order the units online. When you can do that, that is usually a good indicator of healthy supply by these stores.

dmorris68

04-05-2006 04:54:48

Check your local Wal-Marts. Both of my WallyWorlds have had Core and Premium systems in stock, every time I've looked for that past 2-3 weeks or more. Inventory will trickle down to 1 or 2 left, then the next time I look the case is full again. Seem to be pretty plentiful in a lot of places.

egyptianruin

04-05-2006 05:47:10

The high traffic BBY that I bought mine at with my GC that had over 100 in stock that day has one premium and two core so they are pretty much still in high demand and microsoft is slow to the draw.

iamzim

04-05-2006 08:10:50

I just thought of something.....When I get my giftcard, am I still going to get my Free T-Shirt, (and clock) from freepay?? I WANT MY T-SHIRT!!!!! -D

Menotti

04-05-2006 09:44:39

Jake posted this in another thread, just FYI
[quote886a5c2a49]For some reason, the approval to order the gift cards is being delayed by management and hence the wait. Unfortunately, I do not have a timeline as to when you can expect to receive the cards but I certainly hope that it is soon.

Thank you for your patience.[/quote886a5c2a49]

iamzim

04-05-2006 10:05:47

DAMMIT!!! I told all the people at work that were doubting me that i'd have the GC by next week!!!! (just like i told them i'd have the system by 4 months ago!!!!) Now more time will go by of people doubting me!! grrr... Hopefully your management won't hold this up too much longer. Let us know if/when the status changes jake! Thanks for the update!

Menotti

04-05-2006 14:20:15

It is the end of the business day. 1 more day to go by until I think we have a legitimate beef about this second round of GCs. I think we've all been pretty patient throughout this process.

[quote8fca9616b5][b8fca9616b5]4/27/2006 23101 PM
customer service wrote[/b8fca9616b5]
Our operations team will place an order through giftcertificates.com sometime next week. As soon as we receive confirmation from them that the order went through you will receive your gift certificate within 7-10 business days or less.[/quote8fca9616b5]

[quote8fca9616b5][b8fca9616b5]5/2/2006 11032 PM
I wrote[/b8fca9616b5]
On 4/27, I was told that "Our operations team will place an order through giftcertificates.com sometime next week." What is the status of this?[/quote8fca9616b5]

[quote8fca9616b5][b8fca9616b5]5/3/2006 123213 PM
customer service wrote[/b8fca9616b5]
Once again our operations department will place an order one day this week.[/quote8fca9616b5]

[quote8fca9616b5="Jake"][b8fca9616b5]Posted Thu May 04, 2006 1120 am[/b8fca9616b5]
For some reason, the approval to order the gift cards is being delayed by management and hence the wait. Unfortunately, I do not have a timeline as to when you can expect to receive the cards but I certainly hope that it is soon.

Thank you for your patience.[/quote8fca9616b5]

No knock against you, Jake. I know you are doing your best. I'm questioning what is going on with your management.

No one really likes being lied to (again, not talkin about you, Jake). Hopefully, we will see something get done tomorrow.

kyks17

05-05-2006 02:20:32

at the time u posted that, it had only been 5 business days since they said it would take 7-10 business days so....theyre not really behind yet for u ;)

iamzim

05-05-2006 03:24:12

I dont think he was complaining about not having the card yet...we knew we wouldnt have it till next week sometime...it's just the actual "ordering" of the GC by FP, (and the delay by management) he was talking about.

Jake

05-05-2006 07:37:35

[quote27d194f95b="Menotti"]
No knock against you, Jake. I know you are doing your best. I'm questioning what is going on with your management.

No one really likes being lied to (again, not talkin about you, Jake). Hopefully, we will see something get done tomorrow.[/quote27d194f95b]

I don't think customer service is lying either. They are making assumptions about orders but they definitely aren't trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

No word yet...

Menotti

05-05-2006 09:15:23

[quotec871fc70dd="iamzim"]I dont think he was complaining about not having the card yet...we knew we wouldnt have it till next week sometime...it's just the actual "ordering" of the GC by FP, (and the delay by management) he was talking about.[/quotec871fc70dd]

bingo

Menotti

05-05-2006 09:41:10

[quoteb46ccd5325="Jake"][quoteb46ccd5325="Menotti"]
No knock against you, Jake. I know you are doing your best. I'm questioning what is going on with your management.

No one really likes being lied to (again, not talkin about you, Jake). Hopefully, we will see something get done tomorrow.[/quoteb46ccd5325]

I don't think customer service is lying either. They are making assumptions about orders but they definitely aren't trying to pull the wool over your eyes.

No word yet...[/quoteb46ccd5325]

Yeah, I understand. They are just relaying bad information.

You can do it, Jake! Fight for us over there - every one of us who was promised the giftcard this week!

Menotti

05-05-2006 11:57:34

Well, 3pm EST. Doesn't seem like it is happening this week even though CS told us all it was.

? what is going on with the management over there anyway?

iamzim

05-05-2006 12:19:37

AAAAAAAAAAAAARRRRRRRRRRRGGGGGGGGGGGGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

I'm wondering if I'll get the GC by the 6 month mark!! Hopefully Jake'll go whip the management into shape and make them approve the GC order today, so we can get them next week!

Menotti

08-05-2006 00:15:38

Just a note of advice for anyone who has games, etc, waiting to be played

I bit the bullet and ordered the premium from CircuitCity.com because they had them in stock with free shipping. I called my local CC before ordering and asked the manager if I could do the following

1. Order the unit from CC.com using my credit card.
2. Bring the receipt to the store once I get the item.
3. "Cancel" the order and re-buy the item using a newly available set of gift cards.

He said it'd be fine. I knew of this process because Best Buy did it for me before (cancelling a charge on my AmEx and selling me "another" unit on my BBY credit card so I could finance it)

Now let's hope we actually get these giftcards soon.

iamzim

08-05-2006 04:36:47

I wish I could afford to bite the bullet, but I can't! I'm selling off some of my computer parts (that i could still use) to get money to buy a few games!! i'm hoping to have 3 games to last me till the holiday season! So I have to wait until I get my giftcards. C'mon Jake..give us some good news today!! )

good2speed

08-05-2006 07:56:25

[quotea78fe720fc="Menotti"]Just a note of advice for anyone who has games, etc, waiting to be played

I bit the bullet and ordered the premium from CircuitCity.com because they had them in stock with free shipping. I called my local CC before ordering and asked the manager if I could do the following

1. Order the unit from CC.com using my credit card.
2. Bring the receipt to the store once I get the item.
3. "Cancel" the order and re-buy the item using a newly available set of gift cards.

He said it'd be fine. I knew of this process because Best Buy did it for me before (cancelling a charge on my AmEx and selling me "another" unit on my BBY credit card so I could finance it)

Now let's hope we actually get these giftcards soon.[/quotea78fe720fc]

what if you plan on paying with cash would they refund your money once you came back with a gc?

good2speed

08-05-2006 09:29:14

where are you menotti. Dudes here like evry second andnow he decides to dissapear. I think menotti might have set a FIG record for most posts in one thread.

Menotti

08-05-2006 10:24:23

[quotec493f758ec="good2speed"]where are you menotti. Dudes here like evry second andnow he decides to dissapear. I think menotti might have set a FIG record for most posts in one thread.[/quotec493f758ec]

Jeez, take it easy. Believe it or not, this is not the first thing I do in my day. I'm finishing up a final paper for class.

Menotti

08-05-2006 10:25:08

[quoteccfed5d2fb="good2speed"][quoteccfed5d2fb="Menotti"]Just a note of advice for anyone who has games, etc, waiting to be played

I bit the bullet and ordered the premium from CircuitCity.com because they had them in stock with free shipping. I called my local CC before ordering and asked the manager if I could do the following

1. Order the unit from CC.com using my credit card.
2. Bring the receipt to the store once I get the item.
3. "Cancel" the order and re-buy the item using a newly available set of gift cards.

He said it'd be fine. I knew of this process because Best Buy did it for me before (cancelling a charge on my AmEx and selling me "another" unit on my BBY credit card so I could finance it)

Now let's hope we actually get these giftcards soon.[/quoteccfed5d2fb]

what if you plan on paying with cash would they refund your money once you came back with a gc?[/quoteccfed5d2fb]

I'm not sure, it is something you may have to ask your local store.

aka YMMV (your mileage may vary)

Menotti

08-05-2006 10:30:15

Just FYI, I inquired last week with the following message

[quotea600809ef0][ba600809ef0]5/5/2006 30152 PM
(I) wrote[/ba600809ef0]
On 4/27 you told me "Our operations team will place an order through giftcertificates.com sometime next week. As soon as we receive confirmation from them that the order went through you will receive your gift certificate within 7-10 business days or less." I inquired about this a few days ago. On 5/3 you told me "Once again our operations department will place an order one day this week." It is now 3pm on Friday, May 5 and these giftcard orders have not been placed. What is going on?[/quotea600809ef0]

and just got this a little while ago

[quotea600809ef0][ba600809ef0]5/8/2006 120917 PM
customer service wrote[/ba600809ef0]
I apologize for the delays with these orders. They will ship out sometime in the near future. Thank you for your patience.[/quotea600809ef0]

iamzim

08-05-2006 11:44:22

HORRAY! "the near future" should be sometime between now and never!! hopefully it's closer to now though!

CougarKid

08-05-2006 12:23:17

Hopefully the wait is not too long. Still need to get somethings before the actual console anyways.

mykevermin

08-05-2006 20:51:08

[quoteb428abd5a4="Menotti"]Believe it or not, this is not the first thing I do in my day.[/quoteb428abd5a4]

I cast my vote for "not"

Jeez almighty, now that I'm done with my 360 fiasco, now I get to be concerned about which PS3 model we'll be getting from Sony. The lower model lacks HDMI, which would be a big problem from my vantage point. Not that it's relevant to this topic, but, y'know, it may be a few months until there's a "Discuss FreePay's PS3 Situation HERE" thread. But, just as sure as the sun rises in the east and sets in the west...

So, how're things going in here? Status quo? I see. Shame to think that such actions have been par for the course for FP for some time.

Menotti

08-05-2006 22:42:36

[quote0947e1514e="mykevermin"][quote0947e1514e="Menotti"]Believe it or not, this is not the first thing I do in my day.[/quote0947e1514e]

I cast my vote for "not"
[/quote0947e1514e]

Necessary?

Menotti

08-05-2006 23:58:41

[quote8a0d4fea61="mykevermin"]So, how're things going in here? Status quo? I see. Shame to think that such actions have been par for the course for FP for some time.[/quote8a0d4fea61]

Yeah pretty much status quo. You can see what has been going on from my previous posts. I've been trying to keep people updated with responses from CS and from Jake.

lianli

09-05-2006 00:23:31

whats goin on with the free pay 360 site? are they giving away gift certificates?

iamzim

09-05-2006 04:37:46

AAAAAAAHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!! I hope I get my GC before my walmart stock is gone...I see sales going up for the 360 after developers saying you can't tell the diff between the 2 systems, and the PS3 system with wireless B/G, HDMI, SD/MS/CF, and 60GB hdd going for $600!!! What a ripoff!

dmorris68

09-05-2006 05:09:00

I wouldn't call $600 a rip-off when you consider you're getting a Blu-Ray player in the deal. XBox360 has no HD DVD media capability out of the box for $400. Stand-alone Blu-Ray players are reported to cost $1000 when they're released -- for $600 you're getting one PLUS all the other stuff that the console is used for. And don't forget that the Sony Playstation franchise has far more games than XBox -- it's amazing what is still being squeezed out of the PS2 platform in terms of graphics (check out the God Of War II preview here[=http//ps2.ign.com/articles/705/705546p1.html]here). If everybody jumps on PS3 then the likelyhood is high that they will once again surpass XBox360 -- however the 360 will have a year headstart so it might be too late for Sony to catch up. Time will tell...

iamzim

09-05-2006 07:14:56

[quote74b0040e50="dmorris68"]I wouldn't call $600 a rip-off when you consider you're getting a Blu-Ray player in the deal. XBox360 has no HD DVD media capability out of the box for $400. Stand-alone Blu-Ray players are reported to cost $1000 when they're released -- for $600 you're getting one PLUS all the other stuff that the console is used for. And don't forget that the Sony Playstation franchise has far more games than XBox -- it's amazing what is still being squeezed out of the PS2 platform in terms of graphics (check out the God Of War II preview here[=http//ps2.ign.com/articles/705/705546p1.html]here). If everybody jumps on PS3 then the likelyhood is high that they will once again surpass XBox360 -- however the 360 will have a year headstart so it might be too late for Sony to catch up. Time will tell...[/quote74b0040e50]

Indeed, time will tell. Though I might agree that it is a good price for a blu-ray player, i can't be certain until I actually see a Blu-ray player in the market. I'll leave that whole debate for another thread. and... I WOULD LOVE to see God of War II on the 360!! That'd be amazing!!! damn console exclusive titles!!

and, in keeping this on topic...

Any word jake?? As I said before, I need to get my 360 system before a rush of people clear out the stock of my local stores!!

good2speed

09-05-2006 07:30:07

[quote489271d5fe="Menotti"][quote489271d5fe="mykevermin"]So, how're things going in here? Status quo? I see. Shame to think that such actions have been par for the course for FP for some time.[/quote489271d5fe]

Yeah pretty much status quo. You can see what has been going on from my previous posts. I've been trying to keep people updated with responses from CS and from Jake.[/quote489271d5fe]

why has no one warned this guy about double posting... Stop the double post just go back and edit your original post to include any new info. God damn you must have 2 pages of irrelevant double posts

Menotti

09-05-2006 09:37:15

[quote6f10ea71f6="good2speed"][quote6f10ea71f6="Menotti"][quote6f10ea71f6="mykevermin"]So, how're things going in here? Status quo? I see. Shame to think that such actions have been par for the course for FP for some time.[/quote6f10ea71f6]

Yeah pretty much status quo. You can see what has been going on from my previous posts. I've been trying to keep people updated with responses from CS and from Jake.[/quote6f10ea71f6]

why has no one warned this guy about double posting... Stop the double post just go back and edit your original post to include any new info. God damn you must have 2 pages of irrelevant double posts[/quote6f10ea71f6]

If I have new info, I feel it is more likely to be read if I post it as a new item than on a post a few pages ago.

good2speed

09-05-2006 10:25:46

[quotef2ecfab883="Menotti"][quotef2ecfab883="good2speed"][quotef2ecfab883="Menotti"][quotef2ecfab883="mykevermin"]So, how're things going in here? Status quo? I see. Shame to think that such actions have been par for the course for FP for some time.[/quotef2ecfab883]

Yeah pretty much status quo. You can see what has been going on from my previous posts. I've been trying to keep people updated with responses from CS and from Jake.[/quotef2ecfab883]

why has no one warned this guy about double posting... Stop the double post just go back and edit your original post to include any new info. God damn you must have 2 pages of irrelevant double posts[/quotef2ecfab883]

If I have new info, I feel it is more likely to be read if I post it as a new item than on a post a few pages ago.[/quotef2ecfab883]

you have a triple post and another double post on this very page....

Care to explain that one....

Menotti

09-05-2006 10:46:37

[quote4072871a7d="good2speed"][quote4072871a7d="Menotti"][quote4072871a7d="good2speed"][quote4072871a7d="Menotti"][quote4072871a7d="mykevermin"]So, how're things going in here? Status quo? I see. Shame to think that such actions have been par for the course for FP for some time.[/quote4072871a7d]

Yeah pretty much status quo. You can see what has been going on from my previous posts. I've been trying to keep people updated with responses from CS and from Jake.[/quote4072871a7d]

why has no one warned this guy about double posting... Stop the double post just go back and edit your original post to include any new info. God damn you must have 2 pages of irrelevant double posts[/quote4072871a7d]

If I have new info, I feel it is more likely to be read if I post it as a new item than on a post a few pages ago.[/quote4072871a7d]

you have a triple post and another double post on this very page....

Care to explain that one....[/quote4072871a7d]

I'm honestly not seeing my double post here.

iamzim

09-05-2006 13:00:04

This MS Press Conference is driving me nuts!!! I need my 360!!! must...download...halo 3 and fable 2 trailers.....

Jake

10-05-2006 11:27:46

No word from management yet.

CougarKid

10-05-2006 11:45:41

Thanks for the update Jake. Hopefully it'll be soon.

Menotti

10-05-2006 12:20:11

[quote37ade3099e="Jake"]No word from management yet.[/quote37ade3099e]

Thanks for the update. Keep fightin the good fight.

iamzim

10-05-2006 12:32:27

I sent in a CS ticket today....but i'm guessing i'll get the "sometime in the future" repsonse. Keep on it Jake! I just want to get this while I know they're still in stock!! Thanks for the update.

iamzim

11-05-2006 12:51:51

Got a response back from CS....

5/11/2006 30758 PM
customer service wrote
I apologize for these delays. We are waiting for management approval for the latest round of gift card orders before we can send them out. As soon as this happens, we will ship the cards out. Once your order is marked as Shipped, you will know that the gift card has been sent. If you do not see it at that point, please contact us and we will instruct you how to get a reship. Thank you for your patience.

At least now everybody is on the same page! Now Jake just needs to throw his (best forgery of his managers) signature on some papers to approve the GC order! )

CougarKid

11-05-2006 13:51:00

I hope we don't have to wait another 2 weeks.

junkie06

11-05-2006 13:52:03

man i want a 360 so bad (

CougarKid

12-05-2006 00:55:38

[quote98233f53f1="junkie06"]man i want a 360 so bad ([/quote98233f53f1]

When I get my first game from YourFree360Games I'll be ready for it. Till then I can wait. Although if it was a Wii or PS3 I couldn't say the same.

mpbollywoodking

13-05-2006 08:23:20

anybody got their G/C emails yet, because i haven't

Menotti

13-05-2006 08:53:54

[quote1b4a9fb849="mpbollywoodking"]anybody got their G/C emails yet, because i haven't[/quote1b4a9fb849]

Nope

CougarKid

13-05-2006 11:26:04

I don't believe they have sent them out yet have they?

Menotti

13-05-2006 12:12:32

[quote85555c5861="CougarKid"]I don't believe they have sent them out yet have they?[/quote85555c5861]

Nope. A few weeks ago they promised that they were being ordered but then never delivered on it...yet.

CougarKid

13-05-2006 13:07:10

I never knew they said anything about shipping them about soon.

Menotti

13-05-2006 17:13:15

[quotef3ce3d207e="CougarKid"]I never knew they said anything about shipping them about soon.[/quotef3ce3d207e]

I made a good post on p.24 about it.

mpbollywoodking

14-05-2006 12:13:27

How many referrals do u need for the 360?

CougarKid

14-05-2006 14:13:44

Was eight for me.

iamzim

15-05-2006 07:05:48

Approval + 175 days...waiting.....waiting...
STV + 23 days...waiting......waiting...

I just want this to be over, so I can stop wondering/worrying about this!!! Any word from your managers Jake??? I'm thinking that something funny is going on there with management holding up approval for the GC's. When Jake gets promoted to be the Chief of Media Relations, then I'll know we're all screwed. (like in Fun with Dick and Jane for people that have not seen the movie)

burritopunk

15-05-2006 07:26:09

Anyone have any luck with giftcards yet?

mpbollywoodking

15-05-2006 08:03:24

nope, none here, no emails

CougarKid

15-05-2006 10:37:59

I'm still STV.

So Jake came by earlier, but I guess he had no answer for us.

twoput

15-05-2006 14:12:10

Nothing here either still STV, any word about giftcards shipping in your meeting today Jake?

iamzim

16-05-2006 07:02:52

Still STV....Any info Jake??? My hopes were so high a month ago when you shipped some GCs out, and talked about shipping product out...i was hoping for the 360, then I heard July. so I settle for the GC, and it would seem that I'm going to have to wait till july either way!!! What's going on??!!!!!111oneoneone!1

mpbollywoodking

16-05-2006 07:07:02

i mean, i rather get the system itself than the G/C. I rather go back to processing if you guys are starting to shipp 360s out

Kinmar

16-05-2006 07:52:37

[quote31fe9dbe76="dmorris68"]I wouldn't call $600 a rip-off when you consider you're getting a Blu-Ray player in the deal. XBox360 has no HD DVD media capability out of the box for $400. Stand-alone Blu-Ray players are reported to cost $1000 when they're released -- for $600 you're getting one PLUS all the other stuff that the console is used for. And don't forget that the Sony Playstation franchise has far more games than XBox -- it's amazing what is still being squeezed out of the PS2 platform in terms of graphics (check out the God Of War II preview here[=http//ps2.ign.com/articles/705/705546p1.html]here). If everybody jumps on PS3 then the likelyhood is high that they will once again surpass XBox360 -- however the 360 will have a year headstart so it might be too late for Sony to catch up. Time will tell...[/quote31fe9dbe76]

I wouldnt call being force fed another one of Sony's wonderful formats (betamax, minidisc, umd...) a good deal considering the fate of the afformentioned formats. Regardless of what bs extras are packaged into a console 90% of the time people are going to do one thing on it, PLAY GAMES. What happens if HD DVD wins the format war (remember sony doesnt have a good track record in format wars) then your stuck with that wonderful Blu Ray player that you payed an extra $200 for. That and with the cost of producing Blu Ray media i will be very suprised to see a game sell for less than $79. Granted i will probably buy one but its not going to be at launch.

mpbollywoodking

16-05-2006 08:03:55

what's going to be the difference beween the $499 and the $599 PS3, besides the price?

iamzim

16-05-2006 08:07:34

[quoteae636f537d="mpbollywoodking"]what's going to be the difference beween the $499 and the $599 PS3, besides the price?[/quoteae636f537d] It's all over the net. cheap version of ps3 doesnt have HDMI, loss of 40gb of hdd space, no built-in wifi, no memory card slots (SD,CF, MS).

But, to keep on topic........What's going on with the giftcards jake?!?!?! Did your meeting with the management yesterday include anything about the giftcards?

dmorris68

16-05-2006 08:08:38

[quote2efaaccd5a="mpbollywoodking"]what's going to be the difference beween the $499 and the $599 PS3, besides the price?[/quote2efaaccd5a]
The differences are listed in the PS3 threads. The primary differences are Wifi, HDMI, and 60GB HD (instead of 20GB) on the more expensive unit.

Kinmar

16-05-2006 08:11:57

[quotea07c4cedd8="mpbollywoodking"]what's going to be the difference beween the $499 and the $599 PS3, besides the price?[/quotea07c4cedd8]

$499 = 20gig HDD, No HDMI support (making that precious Blu Ray drive worthless), No option for upgrading HDD in the future, No Wireless Controller Support(rumor), No Multi Card Reader, No Wifi

$599 = 60gig HDD, HDMI output, Wireless controller support, Upgradable HDD (maybe), Multi Card Reader, Wifi, Ultra cool chrome "PLAYSTATION 3" lettering.

CollidgeGraduit

16-05-2006 08:18:29

I'm anxious to see how many people answer the question the same way

mpbollywoodking

16-05-2006 08:25:18

shit, i posted the question in the wrong thread P

iamzim

16-05-2006 08:27:22

http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat66900050001&type=category

360's are on bby's website again. Maybe Freepay's holding the GC order because they've got a bunch of the units now! One can only hope....

mpbollywoodking

16-05-2006 08:36:03

if that is true, than that is great. I went to my local Best Buy and they has some

mpbollywoodking

16-05-2006 08:37:23

[quote68bf13e7a7="Kinmar"][quote68bf13e7a7="mpbollywoodking"]what's going to be the difference beween the $499 and the $599 PS3, besides the price?[/quote68bf13e7a7]

$499 = 20gig HDD, No HDMI support [b68bf13e7a7](making that precious Blu Ray drive worthless)[/b68bf13e7a7][/size68bf13e7a7], No option for upgrading HDD in the future, No Wireless Controller Support(rumor), No Multi Card Reader, No Wifi

$599 = 60gig HDD, HDMI output, Wireless controller support, Upgradable HDD (maybe), Multi Card Reader, Wifi, Ultra cool chrome "PLAYSTATION 3" lettering.[/quote68bf13e7a7]

so i can't use Blue Ray dvds???????????????????

Kinmar

16-05-2006 09:57:56

[quote177619814a="mpbollywoodking"]
so i can't use Blue Ray dvds???????????????????[/quote177619814a]

[offtopic]
Well sure you can, but not with a decent HD output. So you basically have yourself a $200 dvd player. Since the movies will be down scaled. In which case you would have no reason to purchase any Blu Ray media to watch since the DVD version will be of the same quality and cost much less. So to sum it up if you want to use the Blu Ray player to play HD movies from Blu Ray media in HD you need to spend the extra $100 and get the upgraded version. Then hope and pray that Blu Ray wins the format war. [/offtopic]


My local bestbuy/target/walmart has had 360's in stock for quite some time now.

mpbollywoodking

16-05-2006 10:07:25

i'm willing to do that. i'm hoping that Freepay will do the same thing here with offering giftcard

i blame history

16-05-2006 10:09:38

[quote18d108019d="Kinmar"][quote18d108019d="mpbollywoodking"]
so i can't use Blue Ray dvds???????????????????[/quote18d108019d]

Well sure you can, but not with a decent HD output. So you basically have yourself a $200 dvd player. Since the movies will be down scaled. In which case you would have no reason to purchase any Blu Ray media to watch since the DVD version will be of the same quality and cost much less. So to sum it up if you want to use the Blu Ray player to play HD movies from Blu Ray media in HD you need to spend the extra $100 and get the upgraded version. Then hope and pray that Blu Ray wins the format war.[/quote18d108019d]

however, if you have a regular, run of the mill, non-HD television, blu ray, even with the HDMI output from a ps3, will look the same anyways, eh? so, ps3 HDMI output or not, blu ray will look the same on a regular television..... in which case i will not fret over getting the 'low end' ps3, but if gift cards are offered, i will probably grab it up and put down the $100 to upgrade.

Kinmar

16-05-2006 10:13:22

[quote995b041525="i blame history"]

however, if you have a regular, run of the mill, non-HD television, blu ray, even with the HDMI output from a ps3, will look the same anyways, eh? so, ps3 HDMI output or not, blu ray will look the same on a regular television..... in which case i will not fret over getting the 'low end' ps3, but if gift cards are offered, i will probably grab it up and put down the $100 to upgrade.[/quote995b041525]

exactly, i suspect alot of people think that just by getting one of these "next gen" systems that support HD content that they will play in HD regardless of what TV they have. No HDTV no HD content so get ready to fork over a few thousand bills for the HD set (few thousand more if you want 1080p)

i blame history

16-05-2006 10:29:57

[quotefd95ee06a5="Kinmar"][quotefd95ee06a5="i blame history"]

however, if you have a regular, run of the mill, non-HD television, blu ray, even with the HDMI output from a ps3, will look the same anyways, eh? so, ps3 HDMI output or not, blu ray will look the same on a regular television..... in which case i will not fret over getting the 'low end' ps3, but if gift cards are offered, i will probably grab it up and put down the $100 to upgrade.[/quotefd95ee06a5]

exactly, i suspect alot of people think that just by getting one of these "next gen" systems that support HD content that they will play in HD regardless of what TV they have. No HDTV no HD content so get ready to fork over a few thousand bills for the HD set (few thousand more if you want 1080p)[/quotefd95ee06a5]

yeah, thats why i am not too worried. i want the ps3 and the 360 in order to play games. i have a 27" flat screen that i am more than happy with for the next few (okay, 5 or so) years. i just know i have to get the new systems if i want to play the new games. if i want halo 3, i will need the 360. and ooooh do i ever want halo 3 lisquealsli

Menotti

16-05-2006 11:24:57

for all the ps3 discussion
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=39083

good2speed

16-05-2006 12:22:18

[quotef4819f0e79="iamzim"]http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat66900050001&type=category

360's are on bby's website again. Maybe Freepay's holding the GC order because they've got a bunch of the units now! One can only hope....[/quotef4819f0e79]

no freepay is just stalling until they go out of buisness.

CougarKid

16-05-2006 12:23:07

Yeah, keep the PS3 in another section.

Anyways I'm in the same boat as another here. If they are going to end up shipping them out about the same time with the GC's then I'll take the actual console. I won't have to waste $30 on shipping and I'll get a shirt lol...

Please Jake try to get us something. I think most of us have been patient enough to deserve something.

iamzim

16-05-2006 12:34:49

Actually....with the giftcard, i'd be able to save about $20!!! But I JUST WANT MY DAMN SYSTEM!!!!! I dont care how I get it, but, I'd like it about 2 weeks ago. (well...actually closer to 6 months ago...but whatever)

mpbollywoodking

16-05-2006 12:55:56

how do u save 20 bucks???

Drakier

16-05-2006 14:32:33

[quote1cbfb20ef5="mpbollywoodking"]how do u save 20 bucks???[/quote1cbfb20ef5]

by getting the cheaper system.

not everyone really cares if they have the Premium system... although I do.. and I'm currently just as frustrated as everyone else at the lack of shipments.

I don't want a giftcard because I want the premium system, and I don't want to spend out of pocket to get it... but that means I have to potentially wait forever (or until FreePay ships them out... whichever comes first).

Hopefully they can start shipping ANY soon.. even if in small amounts. I really hope that FreePay isn't just stalling until something happens. That would be very bad on their part. I understand lack of product, but for those who have been waiting well over a year now.. it just seems.. ridiculous. Although the product hasn't been released for a full year, we're getting there, and the people who were there first should have had pre-orders made to get their systems a long time ago, and the orders should have kept flowing.

I remember all the hassle with the original iPods when the site first launched. It took me well over 4 months to get my iPod.. the sites had slowly started getting better as they were launched, and although the popular products took a long time, they eventually came within about 3 months or so. My iPod Nano was the fastest.. I received it in approximately 3 days.

So what's up with the 360's? Why can't FreePay get their hands on ANY amount of systems within any realm of a decent amount to start shipments.

I don't think anyone is looking for thousands to be sent immediately.. I think they just want to see small batches at least START to be sent. I'd be happy seeing 50 - 100 systems shipping each week. Even at that rate, it would take a long time for everyone to get their orders fulfilled, but at least some progress would be made, and people wouldn't worry as much that they might not receive their products.

CougarKid

16-05-2006 18:08:08

Shit I want the Premium one. If not I want something else to compensate for the other 2 greens I got. I'm sure they won't give us the $300 one.

Just give us a sign of life on this Jake.

Flip21

16-05-2006 19:50:28

hmm

http/" alt=""/img128.imageshack.us/img="128/3424/xbox3600pi.gif[" alt=""/imgd19e57eee5]

so is this the actual xbox 360 or the giftcards in lieu of an xbox that jake said he'd inquire about?

mpbollywoodking

16-05-2006 20:29:26

If I have 9 greens out of the requred 8 greens, shouldn't I get more than a 400 dollar giftcard? Shouldn't I get a $450 giftcard?

Flip21

16-05-2006 20:33:28

[quote6812412a7b="mpbollywoodking"]If I have 9 greens out of the requred 8 greens, shouldn't I get more than a 400 dollar giftcard? Shouldn't I get a $450 giftcard?[/quote6812412a7b]

i had 19 greens on ipodnanos.freepay..

11 on xbox360s


edit scratch that, 23 greens on ipodnanos

http/" alt=""/img103.imageshack.us/img="103/3654/nanos4ro.gif[" alt=""/img6812412a7b]

CougarKid

16-05-2006 23:12:23

Awesome. Wish I knew some place to advertise.

iamzim

17-05-2006 03:24:17

[quoteb900cdc6c1="mpbollywoodking"]how do u save 20 bucks???[/quoteb900cdc6c1]

Actually, I am getting the premium. I have my ways! ;-)

mpbollywoodking

17-05-2006 04:39:58

[quote97bf7edacd="Flip21"][quote97bf7edacd="mpbollywoodking"]If I have 9 greens out of the requred 8 greens, shouldn't I get more than a 400 dollar giftcard? Shouldn't I get a $450 giftcard?[/quote97bf7edacd]

i had 19 greens on ipodnanos.freepay..

11 on xbox360s


edit scratch that, 23 greens on ipodnanos

http/" alt=""/img103.imageshack.us/img="103/3654/nanos4ro.gif[" alt=""/img97bf7edacd][/quote97bf7edacd]

what the fudge???????????????????

u got to be nuts, u wasted so many referrals, AND POTENTIAL GREENS FOR US twisted

mpbollywoodking

17-05-2006 07:58:05

I think everybody wants to know whether the next shipment from the 360 site are the system itself or the requested G/C's?

Because if the systems are starting to become available, than I'm willing to wait for them rather than get the G/C

mpbollywoodking

17-05-2006 09:21:32

[quotebfda6eac88="Flip21"][quotebfda6eac88="mpbollywoodking"]If I have 9 greens out of the requred 8 greens, shouldn't I get more than a 400 dollar giftcard? Shouldn't I get a $450 giftcard?[/quotebfda6eac88]

i had 19 greens on ipodnanos.freepay..

11 on xbox360s


edit scratch that, 23 greens on ipodnanos

http/" alt=""/img103.imageshack.us/img="103/3654/nanos4ro.gif[" alt=""/imgbfda6eac88][/quotebfda6eac88]

dude, with the new update to the site, u may benefit

jt643

17-05-2006 09:31:00

I have been visiting this forum since December and have paid special attention to this topic as I am in the same boat - waiting...

For the most part, you all are a patient lot, and I have been encouraged by you all to be the same. I've received an iPod and a PSP from freepay, so like you all, I have been confident that they will come through with the 360s (or GCs).

I think the thing that is so frustrating is that the recent weeks where no one has apparently received anything doesn't line up with my experience with the site over the past couple years. I echo CougarKid's sentiment - just a sign from freepay that they are not going to close up shop and that they are just waiting for revenue to come in before they can release the next batch - or SOMETHING - would keep most of us patiently continuing to read and post on this thread.

My 2 cents...

Flip21

17-05-2006 12:19:03

[quotee50f92aa46="mpbollywoodking"][quotee50f92aa46="Flip21"][quotee50f92aa46="mpbollywoodking"]If I have 9 greens out of the requred 8 greens, shouldn't I get more than a 400 dollar giftcard? Shouldn't I get a $450 giftcard?[/quotee50f92aa46]

i had 19 greens on ipodnanos.freepay..

11 on xbox360s


edit scratch that, 23 greens on ipodnanos

http/" alt=""/img103.imageshack.us/img="103/3654/nanos4ro.gif[" alt=""/imge50f92aa46][/quotee50f92aa46]

dude, with the new update to the site, u may benefit[/quotee50f92aa46]

What new update?

Flip21

17-05-2006 12:22:04

If you're talking about 2 ipods for 10 referrals, im pretty sure freepay isn't retroactive. I ordered the nano months ago.

mpbollywoodking

17-05-2006 12:22:53

than what does ur status say?

Flip21

17-05-2006 12:24:31

It says shipped.. months ago.

What else would it say?

mpbollywoodking

17-05-2006 12:30:37

in your Status page, does it say to download a form, or does it say to view your order?

Flip21

17-05-2006 12:32:21

[quotef3c77b9761="mpbollywoodking"]in your Status page, does it say to download a form, or does it say to view your order?[/quotef3c77b9761]

View order.

mpbollywoodking

17-05-2006 12:34:13

oh well, worth the try, why the fuck did u get that many referrals, and how did u?

Flip21

17-05-2006 12:36:23

I was anxious to get the Nano, and while waiting for greens on the referrals I had gotten, I sought more.

Probably a bit overkill, but so be it. lishrugli

mpbollywoodking

17-05-2006 12:42:21

a big waste though, VERY BIG WASTE

do u know ur greens or are they strangers? teach me ur skills dude

Flip21

17-05-2006 12:44:06

Strangers.

I'm pretty much done with the whole scene, anyway.

mpbollywoodking

17-05-2006 13:04:31

where did u advertise?

CougarKid

17-05-2006 19:12:26

Like he's going to say......

liawaits answer deviouslyli

iamzim

18-05-2006 06:20:52

What the hell is going on????? I'm starting to get a little impatient here......
I just checked my order status, and my STV date just changed. Now it says it went stv as of 5/16/2006 23400 PM What's up with that??

Any news jake? your managers working on approving orders?

egyptianruin

18-05-2006 11:53:39

maybe they are actually shipping out orders

Menotti

18-05-2006 12:40:06

[quotee774c9470f="egyptianruin"]maybe they are actually shipping out orders[/quotee774c9470f]

lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol lol
anyways, I haven't seen any change to my account, so I dunno.

tomraffe

18-05-2006 12:44:22

Are FreePay still offering giftcards?

I'm approved and have submitted an order, but because I am in the UK I cannot get a giftcard, which sucks!

mpbollywoodking

18-05-2006 12:50:44

[quote9a87ba624d="iamzim"]What the hell is going on????? I'm starting to get a little impatient here......
I just checked my order status, and my STV date just changed. Now it says it went stv as of 5/16/2006 23400 PM What's up with that??

Any news jake? your managers working on approving orders?[/quote9a87ba624d]

maybe it means that they got the systems

junkie06

18-05-2006 13:15:09

OMG for the systems???? oh please

CougarKid

18-05-2006 13:32:30

lol .......

Maybe a glitch because my is still the same.

mpbollywoodking

18-05-2006 13:35:47

mine is same too

twoput

18-05-2006 14:49:17

Mine changed from 4/24/2006 to 5/16/2006 too.How can they have time to dick around like this and say they cant get our order shipped.By the way they have stopped answering CS tickets also going on 6 days with no reply.Jake has quit addressing this shipping problem that he said was solved. How long is this going to drag on,I wonder how they would react if it was their pay checks that took so long to be handed out after they earned them ,its the same thing,we earned these 7 or more months ago and still have NOTHING.

junkie06

18-05-2006 14:59:12

are u all talkin bout the giftcards or systems

CougarKid

18-05-2006 18:55:27

[quote94a420ced1="twoput"]Mine changed from 4/24/2006 to 5/16/2006 too.How can they have time to dick around like this and say they cant get our order shipped.By the way they have stopped answering CS tickets also going on 6 days with no reply.Jake has quit addressing this shipping problem that he said was solved. How long is this going to drag on,I wonder how they would react if it was their pay checks that took so long to be handed out after they earned them ,its the same thing,we earned these 7 or more months ago and still have NOTHING.[/quote94a420ced1]

All your doing is making this situation more negative then it already is. We're trying to keep this thread more upbeat.

No doubt Freepay isn't working great moves here, but all you can do is hope for the best.

iamzim

19-05-2006 05:50:41

after reading some other threads, it would appear that some GCs from fp's giftcard site. Hopefully we're next!!!

good2speed

19-05-2006 10:47:48

freepay sucks a nut....

Obviously stalling... way too obvious.

Love the leads they give us though like they're working real hard trying to procure a shipment for us. Ya f'n right.

and I'm working hard to cure the world of cancer....

Obvious they dont care about the customers since they're going down.

Good job freepay.. sell our info for a quick buck and then let the customers wait in anguish while you stall and give us BS reasons.

Please tell me why its so hard to get me a gc after a month from the request please.

What the procurement of gcs has been difficult?

Please.

Your stalling....

mpbollywoodking

19-05-2006 11:30:10

let me ask anybody this question, has any site delivered the XBOX360 to their customers??

iamzim

19-05-2006 11:32:23

um...YES!! Trainn has delivered the GCs and the actualy SYSTEMS to their customers. apparently, after you complete their site, you might have to wait up to a WHOLE MONTH to get the actual system!

Menotti

19-05-2006 23:53:41

Mannnn another week goes by without any word. We were promised those GC orders would be placed weeks ago. What in the world is going on over there?

nickman

20-05-2006 15:22:54

yeah no kidding, i can understand delays, and shit does happen, but keeping your customers completely in the dark about everything when you dont follow through with your word just plain sucks.

plusnightlife

21-05-2006 01:33:23

Any updates Jake?

Menotti

21-05-2006 08:34:01

[quote84b7df884f="plusnightlife"]Any updates Jake?[/quote84b7df884f]

There will never be an update on the weekend.

CougarKid

21-05-2006 13:20:21

Perhaps tomorrow.............lol.......

JerriBlank

21-05-2006 16:05:15

I placed my 360 order on 1/22/06. Am I pretty far back in line?

And does anyone know how one gets approved to get a gift card instead?


Thanks,

jb

CougarKid

21-05-2006 16:20:06

I was approved on 1/18. I think we are kinda far back on the line. Although not to sure how far back.

I asked Jake for the Giftcard. You should PM him if you'd like the same.

i blame history

21-05-2006 17:08:51

i know people were approved in may of 2005.... i consider myself not too extremely close to the front having been approved in august 2005.

iamzim

22-05-2006 03:35:11

happy 6 month birthday 360! I feel like a bad father, having not been able to play with you or not buying you any accessories! but it's not my fault!! seriously!!! I promise i'll be better once I win the custody battle with FP, and get you in my hands!

junkie06

22-05-2006 07:27:04

Today is my 1 Year Anniversary

good2speed

22-05-2006 09:32:18

Well couldnt wait any longer and put down $800 + of my own money on the xbox360.

Let's get a tally

$400 - premium system
$100 - Wireless adapter
$59 li3 = $180 on 3 games
$50 - xtra wireless controller
$20 - battery recharging kit.

$750 +
$63.50 (NYS tax ) =

813.50

would be great if I had that giftcard but hey its only $800 out of my pocket.

Anyways I'm loving the system and it kicks ass, but if I do ever get the giftcard I guess I can hold on to it for the time when the ps3 drops and I'll go pick that up.

THX FREEPAY

iamzim

22-05-2006 09:44:20

WHAT THE FliliK!!!!!! I just got this back from CS

"Thank you for contacting Freepay customer service. I apologize for the delays with your gift card order. Your order has indeed been submitted however the order is still being processed and has not yet been shipped. When your order is marked as STV, you will know that we have completed processing it and our vendor has received it. Once your order is marked as Shipped, it has been sent to your email address. If you do not see it at this time, please contact us again and we will instruct you on how to arrange a reship."


um.....I AM STV!!!!!

Menotti

22-05-2006 10:00:02

[quoteb8c31822e4="iamzim"]WHAT THE FliliK!!!!!! I just got this back from CS

"Thank you for contacting Freepay customer service. I apologize for the delays with your gift card order. Your order has indeed been submitted however the order is still being processed and has not yet been shipped. When your order is marked as STV, you will know that we have completed processing it and our vendor has received it. Once your order is marked as Shipped, it has been sent to your email address. If you do not see it at this time, please contact us again and we will instruct you on how to arrange a reship."


um.....I AM STV!!!!![/quoteb8c31822e4]

Yeah, what they told you is actually false. I am STV too, but they have [bb8c31822e4]not[/bb8c31822e4] ordered the gift cards from their supplier.

iamzim

22-05-2006 10:10:07

yeah, i know! it's a load of BS! the last CS response was.."we're waiting for management to approve the order" now they're saying that i'm still processing when it says STV, and they have not yet placed the order. What the hell is going on over there jake??????? A month, and no giftcards. I understand that supercerts are hard to come by these days, i mean, every store i go to is sold out of them, but can't you guys come up with just a few! oh wait...they're not at stores...they're just online!!!
/rant

tomraffe

22-05-2006 10:13:59

I got an interesting response today

I wrote

"Hi, I have just been approved. How would I go about getting a gift certificate that I know you have offered some people? Thanks, Tom"

FP CS wrote

"Thank you for contacting Freepay customer service. I am sorry however we are not yet offering gift cards for UK customers. However we have been exploring our options with regards to UK gaming vendors and we may have come across some of these units. When this happens, we will begin to ship immediately."

Menotti

22-05-2006 11:44:39

Hmm....Just submitted another CS ticket. Let's see what happens.

CougarKid

22-05-2006 12:16:13

Looks like another week with no response from Jake. Looking grim....

Drakier

22-05-2006 12:52:48

do you honestly think that submitting frivolous trouble tickets all the time is going to speed up the process at all?

All it does is delay the answer from the customer service reps to the people who have REAL issues. It's best not to bother Customer Service unless you have a legitimate issue that needs to be addressed immediately.

asking "when will I get my package" over and over again isn't going to make it come any quicker.

Menotti

22-05-2006 16:01:53

[quote5ea126eda7="Drakier"]do you honestly think that submitting frivolous trouble tickets all the time is going to speed up the process at all?

All it does is delay the answer from the customer service reps to the people who have REAL issues. It's best not to bother Customer Service unless you have a legitimate issue that needs to be addressed immediately.

asking "when will I get my package" over and over again isn't going to make it come any quicker.[/quote5ea126eda7]

Makes me feel better about waiting in the dark for so long. I don't think it is frivolous if I wait for a few weeks without hearing a single word and then submit another ticket.

Drakier

22-05-2006 16:18:52

speaking on behalf of other Customer Service Reps (me being a former Customer Service Rep) I can say that submitting ticket after ticket after ticket does nothing but slow down the process, get the CS Reps mad at you, force them to divert attention from the real issues, and overall, nothing good comes from it.

You'll get status when you get status. No amount of creating trouble tickets is going to change how fast FreePay gets products out, or otherwise. I'm sure whenever Jake has an answer is about the same time Customer Service will have an answer, and you'll know whenever Jake posts.

I've managed to wait a long time for my xbox 360, but you don't see me complaining daily, making new trouble tickets, being a thorn in FreePay's side, or otherwise causing trouble for them. I sit and wait patiently for any updates from Jake, and for updates on when they will be sending products. I do this because I know that's all I CAN do. Everything else is just a wasted effort and it is upsetting to other people.

I can see making trouble tickets if you had actual PROBLEMS with your account, or otherwise were in a situation where your account was on hold or you didn't receive credit for an offer. All you're doing is asking "when will I get my product" over and over again, and they still don't have an answer for you. Creating a new ticket won't change the fact that they don't have an answer for you. Asking for status from Jake every day won't change the fact that they don't have an answer for you. Nothing you do will change the fact that they don't have an answer for you. Seeing a theme here?

Menotti

22-05-2006 17:44:37

I used to be a customer service rep too. What I avoided at all costs, however, was giving constant canned responses to a number of very different inquiries. What I mean to say is, it seems that no matter what someone asks about the situation, the same response is given to everyone. Nothing is personalized, no real care is given.

Also, it is important to keep your customers informed when you promise them something and don't deliver (not specifically knocking Jake here). Example A CS rep and promises that they will do something for the customer they are assisting. When they cannot deliver on that promise, they have a responsibility to inform that customer, even if the promise was broken out of their control. A number of us were promised that the giftcards would be ordered weeks ago. They weren't. We weren't informed until we inquired. [i376c915103]This[/i376c915103] is the recurring theme of their customer service Don't say a damn word unless you are asked, even if there are open tickets.

That's not how I was taught to do my job.

[b376c915103]Edit on May 23, 2006 at 1117am for clarification[/b376c915103]
I am not directing this or placing the blame on Jake in this matter. He is going above and beyond by being here on these forums.

I am simply referring to the fact that FP has a horrible reputation when it comes to notifying their customers when they make changes or don't follow through on promises. A good example would be on the PS3 site. They changed it significantly and did not officially inform their customers about these changes. Of course, Jake made a post on this site. However, they didn't send an email out with their new policies - something that absolutely needed/(s) to happen.

It seems that their management decides to make changes but doesn't really formalize anything into writing. If they had better planning, they could send out these change notifications with a number of scenarios already thought of and accounted for. Instead, they haphazardly edit their terms and have to scramble to answer tons of support tickets about the same / similar questions that could have been addressed with one well written email.

iamzim

23-05-2006 05:34:01

Any news today jake? is everyone @ FP that deals with the 360's on vacation?? I'm just wondering what the hold up is. Is management still sitting on approving the giftcards. I see that some giftcards were shipped out for your giftcard site (for people that were approved LESS than 6 months ago). Obviously something is going on there, but what about these 360 giftcards?? I've got my system already in lay-away, and the time on that is ticking away!!! I'd hate to loose the 10% i already put down on the system because your bosses are holding this up!

JesterxXx

23-05-2006 19:03:56

As of today, it has been a YEAR since I ordered my 360 from Freepay. It has also been about 6 months since the damn 360s were released and we all know that it isn't as hard to get systems now. Can't believe it has been that long already.



[baed067b0e2]Order # 485xxx xbox360s.freepay.com 5/24/2005[/coloraed067b0e2] 85700 PM [/baed067b0e2]

CougarKid

23-05-2006 19:07:46

I applaud you for not complaining more. I would be super pissed. I'm only on 4 months.

Iloveipods2

23-05-2006 20:01:57

[quote099c741ba1="JesterxXx"]As of today, it has been a YEAR since I ordered my 360 from Freepay. It has also been about 6 months since the damn 360s were released and we all know that it isn't as hard to get systems now. Can't believe it has been that long already.



[b099c741ba1]Order # 485xxx xbox360s.freepay.com 5/24/2005[/color099c741ba1] 85700 PM [/b099c741ba1][/quote099c741ba1]

wow! I commend you for your patience! and am beginning to frown upon my once beloved freepay........................ roll

iamzim

24-05-2006 11:07:17

I think that fp thinks that if nobody says anything for a while everyone will forget about this whole free360 thing, and just give up on ever getting it.

jeff7602

24-05-2006 14:51:57

I finally got approved for the 360. I will wait as long as I need to to get the system...as long as I get it. I can be patient. If I get it a year from now that's okay with me...I'm just afraid that freepay will go under before I get it. I don't care how long it takes as long as I get it!!!

CougarKid

24-05-2006 16:50:00

Your saying that now. I was fine and patient 2 months ago too.

nimannn

24-05-2006 16:52:16

FreePay is a joke, I'm never going to use that POS site again.

plusnightlife

24-05-2006 20:07:40

[quotecc4750ac5a="nimannn"]FreePay is a joke, I'm never going to use that POS site again.[/quotecc4750ac5a]

My main question is why are we still sending approval forms through normal mail? There is absolutely no reason why we can't submit for approval online, like every other freebie site does.

I think FreePay just got too busy for their own good. They need to take some pages out of Trainn's book.

On a seperate note, I just passed 1 month of waiting for approval. I am still at the early early stages of the waiting game you are all experiencing. I plan on PMing Jake about a giftcard the day my approval goes through. Hopefully I'll get lucky and get my card before 6 months or so. However, I should get my $450 from Trainn in the mail before the end of May, so I can enjoy my 360.

Flip21

24-05-2006 21:31:30

[quote3bfe467ed7="plusnightlife"][quote3bfe467ed7="nimannn"]FreePay is a joke, I'm never going to use that POS site again.[/quote3bfe467ed7]

My main question is why are we still sending approval forms through normal mail? There is absolutely no reason why we can't submit for approval online, like every other freebie site does.

I think FreePay just got too busy for their own good. They need to take some pages out of Trainn's book.

On a seperate note, I just passed 1 month of waiting for approval. I am still at the early early stages of the waiting game you are all experiencing. I plan on PMing Jake about a giftcard the day my approval goes through. Hopefully I'll get lucky and get my card before 6 months or so. However, I should get my $450 from Trainn in the mail before the end of May, so I can enjoy my 360.[/quote3bfe467ed7]

Forms are sent through the mail (after a 30 day waiting period) to raise the likelihood of greens turning yellow so FreePay can send out fewer gifts.

It's pretty straightforward.

jeff7602

24-05-2006 22:00:07

[quotebfd2bd1156="CougarKid"]Your saying that now. I was fine and patient 2 months ago too.[/quotebfd2bd1156]

I've been waiting for my last green since January and have been scammed twice and another guy waited for two months for manual before finally just paypaling me instead. I waited 5 months for that 8th green and didn't get impatient. I really don't care how long it takes, just as long as I get it. I will wait for a year and not complain about how long it takes to get. I'm just nervous that they're going to close up shop and I'll get nothing. I do like to be kept in the loop (thanks Jake), but don't care if I have to wait a while so freepay can make a little more profit. If me waiting while freepay sits on my cash and earns interest keeps them afloat then I'm more than happy to do so.

CougarKid

24-05-2006 23:57:55

We'd all be a lot more patient as well if we knew we were getting them for sure, but it looks worse and worse everyday. And we grow more impatient and nervous with each passing day.

Menotti

25-05-2006 08:44:56

Well it's been almost a month since they've said those backlogged giftcards would go out. It's not looking too good.

Fugger

25-05-2006 10:34:59

I'm still holding out for the system. 1/20/2006 64100 PM and waiting... I hope to get it before Rainbow Six Las Vegas comes out, or Halo 3.

plusnightlife

25-05-2006 12:18:49

http//www.inc.com/resources/inc500/2005/profiles/open_018.html[]http//www.inc.com/resources/inc500/2005/profiles/open_018.html

Ranking 18
3 Year Growth 2349.8%
2004 Revenue $ 20,479,325.00
URL www.gratisinternet.com
[b82261ecb3a]Employees 12[/b82261ecb3a]


Maybe that's the problem.

For reference, it's by far the lowest of all companies in that top 25.

CollidgeGraduit

25-05-2006 12:31:00

As Jake said, that's old outdated information.

Wolfeman

25-05-2006 12:52:26

Those are numbers from 2004...

plusnightlife

25-05-2006 19:24:00

isnt that when you guys started the site tho

mykevermin

26-05-2006 08:40:36

I'd just like to say that I saw 20-25 Premium Systems (though, strangely, no Cores) at my po-dunk Wal-Mart (perhaps a bit redundant) the other night.

Methinks it's time you all stopped posting here and started getting your asses together for a class-action lawsuit. I'd join, but, y'know, I managed to get my giftcard.

iamzim

26-05-2006 09:41:02

yeah....i've been seeing them in my walmart for the past 3 months!!!!!! And after hearing jack shit about these things for almost the past 2 weeks, i'm starting to get a little pissed (if you can't tell...). It's just getting ridiculous! I would like to know if I'm ever going to get the giftcard (or the system for that matter) so I can stop thinking about it!

Menotti

26-05-2006 09:50:15

Well, the fact of the matter is, if they absolutely could not get the systems themselves, they should have been getting us our giftcards a month ago when they promised they would.

This is really getting out of hand.

mykevermin

26-05-2006 10:04:44

[quote21b8ad8268="Menotti"]Well, the fact of the matter is, if they absolutely could not get the systems themselves, they should have been getting us our giftcards a month ago when they promised they would.

This is really getting out of hand.[/quote21b8ad8268]

I will offer a slight correction it's liBEENli out of hand for quite some time. Which is why I suggest you (and I nominate you since you're so active in this thread, though you can certainly take or leave my advice) should do some research on class-action lawsuits.

Seriously, posting in this thread is like a Marxist who wakes up every morning wondering if today's gonna be the revolution nothing's gonna change unless you do something yourself, jack.

Menotti

26-05-2006 10:20:37

I've already done some research on class action and, honestly, I'm not sure where to begin. I am willing to look into it more, though. I encourage you to, as well.

CougarKid

26-05-2006 14:37:25

Class action lawsuits are only going to work if you know or lawyer or are willing to pay one.

Just give us our stuff and wash your hands with this.

Menotti

26-05-2006 15:02:34

Can't a class action be filed with the lawyer(s) taking a certain cut of the settlement?

mykevermin

26-05-2006 15:08:45

indeed.

Menotti

26-05-2006 16:33:36

Too bad I don't know where to begin with such investigation. Most of my searching leads me to private firms - seems to be where to go, eh?

iamzim

27-05-2006 07:16:24

i don't want a class action lawsuit....i just want my damn giftcard!!!

Drakier

27-05-2006 10:00:05

Too many suits, and FreePay goes out of business basically screwing everyone else because some people decide to be selfish.

If we let FreePay continue on their way without having to worry about all this Legal trouble that's been brought to them, then they would be able to be a lot more efficient and get product out faster, and people wouldn't have to worry about them going out of business.

The best way to put them out of business and screw everyone out of their offer compensation is to file lawsuits against them. So for the sake of all those people who are patiently awaiting their products from FreePay (and have no doubt that they will eventually come as long as FreePay stays in business) I ask you to please not do a dumb thing and start filing lawsuits without proper cause. Just because they are taking a REALLY long time to send products doesn't justify the cause. I'm sure it is in their fine print somewhere, and it would end up being thrown out of court.

CougarKid

27-05-2006 12:49:34

I think most people want to do it in the occurence that they went out of business and they didn't get their long awaited items.

Drakier

27-05-2006 22:59:30

The less problems FreePay has along the way, the sooner everyone gets their items.

FreePay makes a TON of money off these offers.. it's not a matter of income until people start throwing lawsuits at them, and FreePay is forced to spend frivolous money trying to keep their company from losing money in lawsuits.

Which goes back to my original point.. I know it's taking a lot time.. I've been waiting just as long as most of the oldies and I'm trying my best to remain patient.. but as I start seeing people posting about things like lawsuits, it starts to upset me because I don't want THEIR actions to affect MY chances of getting the product I earned. The less snags along the way for FreePay, the quicker and easier it will be for everyone... both customers and FreePay.

Menotti

27-05-2006 23:20:41

Drakier, I think your argument might be flawed in the idea that they make a ton of money off of these offers. Professional trading sites such as FiPG and A4F, among others, has decreased their margin/customer.

Do you think, at worst, they break even if someone completes a site? Even if they make a little money, I can't imagine it is enough to sustain their operation. They need customers who do not complete a site, as they are the ones who make them the most money - pretty much all profit.

I do believe that they are having financial difficulties and that is what is holding them back from offering giftcards for all of their unfulfilled orders - whether or not they can actually get their hands on units.

Drakier

27-05-2006 23:45:42

Look at people like me who have 13+ for xbox360, and 13+ for iPod Nano, and 15+ for PSP, etc..

you get the idea.. I have at LEAST 3 or 4 extras for every offer I do, and I did a lot of them.. they'll also make a lot more money off the new rules where people have to complete within 90 days.. As long as people still keep signing up, many of them will never be able to finish enough to get their product, but they'll try really hard before being denied after the 90 days... all those referrals are money in the bank for FreePay.

I don't think the argument is flawed at all.. just look at the numbers in general.. The cost for an XBox 360 on FreePay's site is 8 referrals right? (or was)... The price of the XBox 360 at Best Buy is $399. That's looking at approximately a tradeoff of $50 per referral..

After doing advertising work with some of the other vendors, they'll pay more than $50 for LEGIT accounts. eBay used to pay pretty well for referral sign-ups.. I don't know what they pay lately... and a lot of customers forget to cancel their accounts within the alotted time, and the companies know this.. which is why they are willing to spend a little bit extra on them.

I'm not saying freepay is making $50 per referral, but some are more, and some are less.. it's a trade-off.. that's part of FreePay's business is working with the advertisers and figuring out what will work for their business.

Either way.. they'd have more money and a lot easier of a time if they didn't have to pay the lawyers and work out the legal issues that people are bringing against them. Trying to take care of serious lawsuits whether you're at fault or not can be VERY expensive.. and where do you think that money comes from? I doubt they're using "venture capital" for it. Chances are, it's coming out from the profit margin on their advertising sales and our products.

That isn't to say that if we wait long enough we won't get our products, because I still believe that as long as FreePay stays in business, everyone has a chance to get their products.. it's just my fear that if people keep launching investigations and lawsuits against FreePay that they may end up on the losing side of the financial battle, and end up folding.. thus putting all us waiting customers through this long wait to get nothing... I really hope that doesn't happen, which is why I discourage anyone attempting to seek legal action. Wait until they go out of business on their own (if they do) and THEN sue them for damages. You'll have a LOT stronger of a case against them at that point anyway, and you'll have more than enough screaming customers to put together a fairly large Class-Action suit... but any class-action suit at this point would be worthless because there is no merit for it yet.. FreePay is still sending product slowly (although it isn't the XBox itself) and they're working on getting things going.. there is no grounds for suit in this situation currently

jeff7602

28-05-2006 11:33:01

[quotedbea7a0933="Menotti"] Professional trading sites such as FiPG and A4F, among others, has decreased their margin/customer.
[/quotedbea7a0933]

You're right that it has decreased their margin/customer, however we are a minority of thier customers, not a majority so the impact it has is kind of minimal in comparison with their overall profits I would suspect.

Menotti

28-05-2006 14:14:14

[quote2d4ffeb619="jeff7602"][quote2d4ffeb619="Menotti"] Professional trading sites such as FiPG and A4F, among others, has decreased their margin/customer.
[/quote2d4ffeb619]

You're right that it has decreased their margin/customer, however we are a minority of thier customers, not a majority so the impact it has is kind of minimal in comparison with their overall profits I would suspect.[/quote2d4ffeb619]

I don't really know if anyone (besides Freepay) has a good grasp on what % of their active users are members of professional trading sites.

Menotti

28-05-2006 20:55:30

Either way, they still have not yet answered the 1 question that we've asked so many times Why not offer giftcards for all outstanding orders?

We've heard many times that they can't ship the 360s because of supply issues - which, by the way, becomes less viable every day, because BBY, CC, and Newegg all have stock. Newegg lets a single "customer" buy 10 units every 48 hours. They could have a few customer service reps get 10 units every 48 hours and fulfill their orders! That's just one example of thinking outside of the box to at least attempt to regain good standing with customers.

Either way, after this much time, you'd think they would have offered compensation. They could have their reps goto BBY and pick up all of the giftcards if they really wanted to.

It leads me to conclude that they either can't (because of financial troubles) or they don't want to for some other hidden reason. Let's hope it's not the latter.

plusnightlife

28-05-2006 21:31:16

I skimmed through the whole section about there not being suppliers that FreePay can come to terms with. This, to me, seems odd. Trainn, OC, and others have had no problems finding suppliers. Neither have Amazon.com, Buy.com, Game Stop, eBgames, Strawberries, FuncoLand, Best Buy, WalMart, Target, etc. I guess I'm missing something.

Seperate question Throughout the 28 pages of discussion in this thread (Posted Sun Feb 26, 2006 503 pm), has anybody received an Xbox 360? Not a giftcard... I mean the actual system. Anyone?

michae229

28-05-2006 21:35:52

nope

i blame history

28-05-2006 22:32:26

i must say that many places near me are fully stocked with 360s, and in crazy amounts, as well. i was on a mad impulse mission to buy a DDR set for my regular xbox, and it was suprisingly hard to find. my quest took me to two EB games stores, three walmarts, one meijer, and two targets ($70 later, i had what i was looking for). every store had many, many 360s. i did not count, becuase my first thought upon walking into a store is not "omg jake needs to come here and buy me my xbox wtf!?!?!" but i did take time to notice that no place near me has a shortage at all. in fact, they have quite the surplus (a local best buy and sams club are fully stocked as well).

yes, i find it odd that freepay is still having trouble getting them when they are so abundant here, but i dont really feel like complaining. i would just rather put the effort into something else. i am not too happy about it, but i feel that since the systems seem to be very easy to come by now, maybe freepay will be able to start shipping in the next couple months.... with as many as there are around here, it looks like it could be promising.

jeff7602

28-05-2006 23:08:43

[quoted8b6197261="Menotti"]
I don't really know if anyone (besides Freepay) has a good grasp on what % of their active users are members of professional trading sites.[/quoted8b6197261]

Well, Freepay is who we are talking about here.

Menotti

29-05-2006 07:31:13

[quotedbc10008be="jeff7602"][quotedbc10008be="Menotti"]
I don't really know if anyone (besides Freepay) has a good grasp on what % of their active users are members of professional trading sites.[/quotedbc10008be]

Well, Freepay is who we are talking about here.[/quotedbc10008be]

Haha, true. They probably don't know, either.

Menotti

29-05-2006 07:34:14

[quote5a1a6375a9="i blame history"]maybe freepay will be able to start shipping in the next couple months.... with as many as there are around here, it looks like it could be promising.[/quote5a1a6375a9]

That's what we've been saying for, well, months. We've also been saying "hey, maybe they'll start offering us giftcards if they are having supply issues"

Seems to be false hopes at this point. Any legit company in their right minds would have offered giftcards for the outstanding orders by now or way before now. I can't see a reason they would want to piss us off so much unless they had no other choice - aka, they are having financial difficulties.

However, if they are intentionally holding off on giftcards or the units themselves, they have some 'splainin to do.

iamzim

30-05-2006 04:53:13

i don't want the system from FP anymore. I have a 360 in lay-away at walmart. i want my GC so I can go pick up my damn system!

kristylez

30-05-2006 06:57:27

And some of us are still waiting on the systems. I think the giftcards took all their attention away from actually supplying the systems... sigh sigh sigh...

iamzim

30-05-2006 07:04:34

i would have waited for the system...but when they said july, i said i'd get the GC..doesnt look like i'll get either till july!

mpbollywoodking

30-05-2006 07:12:53

Jake, I would rather get the system than the giftcards in this case, which ever comes first

Menotti

30-05-2006 07:38:52

[quote910fd30454="iamzim"]i would have waited for the system...but when they said july, i said i'd get the GC..doesnt look like i'll get either till july![/quote910fd30454]

I'm having serious doubts about July at this point.

mykevermin

30-05-2006 10:38:24

[quote6b6e365d92="Drakier"]Look at people like me who have 13+ for xbox360, and 13+ for iPod Nano, and 15+ for PSP, etc..

you get the idea.. I have at LEAST 3 or 4 extras for every offer I do, and I did a lot of them.. they'll also make a lot more money off the new rules where people have to complete within 90 days.. As long as people still keep signing up, many of them will never be able to finish enough to get their product, but they'll try really hard before being denied after the 90 days... all those referrals are money in the bank for FreePay.

I don't think the argument is flawed at all.. just look at the numbers in general.. The cost for an XBox 360 on FreePay's site is 8 referrals right? (or was)... The price of the XBox 360 at Best Buy is $399. That's looking at approximately a tradeoff of $50 per referral..

After doing advertising work with some of the other vendors, they'll pay more than $50 for LEGIT accounts. eBay used to pay pretty well for referral sign-ups.. I don't know what they pay lately... and a lot of customers forget to cancel their accounts within the alotted time, and the companies know this.. which is why they are willing to spend a little bit extra on them.[/quote6b6e365d92]

Back up this assertion. Tell me that Toppik hair thickener is paying $50 everytime someone spends $5 on a sample. You may claim that it averages $50, or near there, but you've done nothing to show it. In addition, a payout of anywhere approaching $50 would put many of these companies out of business. Perhaps the credit card companies, or Columbia House, can afford to do that and maintain a profit, but how many of those have your referrals done? To think that FreePay, or any company, breaks even if the minimal requirements are done is absurd. Freebie companies offset the costs of offering items with those who (a) do many extra referrals and (b) those who don't complete the requirements. Therein lies the profit. To think that, in the mathematically impossible likelihood that everyone finished their 360 sites, that FreePay would make a profit is similarly absurd.

[quote6b6e365d92]I'm not saying freepay is making $50 per referral, but some are more, and some are less.. it's a trade-off.. that's part of FreePay's business is working with the advertisers and figuring out what will work for their business.

Either way.. they'd have more money and a lot easier of a time if they didn't have to pay the lawyers and work out the legal issues that people are bringing against them. Trying to take care of serious lawsuits whether you're at fault or not can be VERY expensive.. and where do you think that money comes from? I doubt they're using "venture capital" for it. Chances are, it's coming out from the profit margin on their advertising sales and our products.[/quote6b6e365d92]

So, your argument in the end is this Those who feel necessary to sue for what is readily available and rightfully theirs are being selfish. Alright, well, you're willfully ignoring the selfishness of those who feel the need to wait on a company whose reliability is beyond nonexistent and venturing into scam territory at this point. Try to convince those people who were promised giftcards three or more weeks ago that FreePay will come through. Giftcards, unlike the consoles themselves, are a resource far more difficult to exhaust - unless, of course, the company has exhausted its resources - the money - with which to purchase said giftcards.

In the end, your argument is that your selfishness is superior to the selfishness of others. You may be right, because given the bureaucratic nightmare that is FP right now (you'll find more efficiency in the DMfuckingV than in FreePay), one can only imagine the sub-snail's pace at which they would move if they were engaged in multiple legal battles. But, your entire argument is founded on this false premise that FreePay will eventually make good on its backorders. What became of the "substantial weekly shipments" that Jake promised? Why aren't giftcards - fucking giftcards! - being shipped out as promised? Why can my podunk Wal-Mart have 25 Premium 360 consoles in stock, yet FreePay can't even seem to grasp that elusive lioneli console? Why aren't users getting the liIMMENSELYli available items (iPods, PSPs, PS2s, MacMinis) that they were promised?

Listen, I worked in a business that was a sinking ship ready to happen, and eventually did happen. It didn't go from bustling to closed overnight. It's a process, and one that FreePay is clearly going through. YOU can live in your naive world where FreePay delivers as promised, but if I may speak for others in this thread, many people aren't buying that bullshit anymore, and some of them want to get out of this miserable relationship. They have every right in the world to sue, and fuck you for trying to pull some "selfish" argument when it's your own willfull ignorance, or deliberate cloaking, of your own selfishness that prompted you to make that post in the first place.

[quote6b6e365d92]That isn't to say that if we wait long enough we won't get our products, because I still believe that as long as FreePay stays in business, everyone has a chance to get their products.. it's just my fear that if people keep launching investigations and lawsuits against FreePay that they may end up on the losing side of the financial battle, and end up folding.. thus putting all us waiting customers through this long wait to get nothing... I really hope that doesn't happen, which is why I discourage anyone attempting to seek legal action. Wait until they go out of business on their own (if they do) and THEN sue them for damages. You'll have a LOT stronger of a case against them at that point anyway, and you'll have more than enough screaming customers to put together a fairly large Class-Action suit... but any class-action suit at this point would be worthless because there is no merit for it yet.. FreePay is still sending product slowly (although it isn't the XBox itself) and they're working on getting things going.. there is no grounds for suit in this situation currently[/quote6b6e365d92]

Yeah, let's sue a company after they file for bankruptcy protections. Fuckin' genius. roll

iamzim

30-05-2006 12:30:02

It would appear that Jake hasn't been online today. Maybe he took the week off, and we'll hear a bunch of wonderful news next week....ahh, this elusive next week, when will it ever get here!!! I was supposed to get my giftcard next week a month ago! except it will never be next week, it will always be this week!! AAAHHH!!! we're never getting anything...or rather, we'll all get everything...next week.

mykevermin

30-05-2006 12:36:41

[quote269b120b2a="iamzim"]It would appear that Jake hasn't been online today. Maybe he took the week off, and we'll hear a bunch of wonderful news next week....ahh, this elusive next week, when will it ever get here!!! I was supposed to get my giftcard next week a month ago! except it will never be next week, it will always be this week!! AAAHHH!!! we're never getting anything...or rather, we'll all get everything...next week.[/quote269b120b2a]

While the food is somewhat palatable, there's a "Joe's Crab Shack" a half mile from my house, down on the riverbank. It's tacky ambience includes a large sign painted on the side that says "FREE CRAB TOMORROW!"

Your post made me think of that.

CougarKid

31-05-2006 21:02:13

So are we ever going to get any word on this? I know the constant bitching won't help, but I like to vent.

Admin

31-05-2006 21:23:32

[quote145cc06210="mykevermin"]Back up this assertion. Tell me that Toppik hair thickener is paying $50 everytime someone spends $5 on a sample. You may claim that it averages $50, or near there, but you've done nothing to show it. In addition, a payout of anywhere approaching $50 would put many of these companies out of business.[/quote145cc06210]

video professor, aol, and tickle all pay over $50 per lead. whiteovernite and several others pay about 50.

advantage language, onlingo, stamps premier, ultima patch, true.com, and tons of others pay in the 42-49 range. if i had to guess i would place toppik the 38-40 range. you are unaware of the economics of incented trials. vp and a ton of other companies have been in business for quite some time, paying more than $50/lead.

Menotti

31-05-2006 23:10:40

[quote7803e87d0c="Admin"][quote7803e87d0c="mykevermin"]Back up this assertion. Tell me that Toppik hair thickener is paying $50 everytime someone spends $5 on a sample. You may claim that it averages $50, or near there, but you've done nothing to show it. In addition, a payout of anywhere approaching $50 would put many of these companies out of business.[/quote7803e87d0c]

video professor, aol, and tickle all pay over $50 per lead. whiteovernite and several others pay about 50.

advantage language, onlingo, stamps premier, ultima patch, true.com, and tons of others pay in the 42-49 range. if i had to guess i would place toppik the 38-40 range. you are unaware of the economics of incented trials. vp and a ton of other companies have been in business for quite some time, paying more than $50/lead.[/quote7803e87d0c]

I'd have to agree. Companies do pay a lot per lead. It may seem inflated, but it is true.

This is one of the reasons why I don't understand why FreePay hasn't just gone to BBY and bought gift cards and freakin mailed em to us. Something is just not adding up.

CougarKid

31-05-2006 23:14:46

They certainly do have a plan of some sort. Bad or good we don't know and that's the terryfing part.

mykevermin

01-06-2006 06:25:52

[quote2cea07886f="Admin"][quote2cea07886f="mykevermin"]Back up this assertion. Tell me that Toppik hair thickener is paying $50 everytime someone spends $5 on a sample. You may claim that it averages $50, or near there, but you've done nothing to show it. In addition, a payout of anywhere approaching $50 would put many of these companies out of business.[/quote2cea07886f]

video professor, aol, and tickle all pay over $50 per lead. whiteovernite and several others pay about 50.

advantage language, onlingo, stamps premier, ultima patch, true.com, and tons of others pay in the 42-49 range. if i had to guess i would place toppik the 38-40 range. you are unaware of the economics of incented trials. vp and a ton of other companies have been in business for quite some time, paying more than $50/lead.[/quote2cea07886f]

Don't tell me what I'm not aware of. I understand how this works.

It seems that you're still estimating this costs. Where did you acquire this knowledge?

Perhaps I'm overestimating (1) the number of 'professional' users and (2) the number of people who can capably use a computer to cancel an offer. For example, if tickle pays out FreebieCompany X $50 (the minimum according to your assertion), and I pay tickle $5 for a ____ test, I must be a member for three months for them to cover the remaining $45, plus another $15, which may be profit, but is more likely just a portion of the overhead they have. So, they need to make that up elsewhere when I cancel before a week is up - they're suddenly out $45. They need one person signed up and subscribed for half a year to break even with what they paid out for two people - and that's "break even" if we discount overhead costs entirely (though, truth be told, it'd be a 'whopping' profit of $30). That just doesn't add up. I come to three (two and a half) conclusions as a result

1) I seriously underestimate the number of people who try offers and stick with them, and those people stick with offers for long enough to easily cover the losses incurred by those people who cancel early; likewise, I overestimate the proportion of "professional" users who sign up and cancel immediately (don't act like that's not the case, either).

2) (1.5) I seriously underestimate the number of people who try offers and forget about them and/or have no bloomin' idea how to cancel/stop an offer, and those people (inadvertantly) stick with offers for long enough to easily cover the losses incurred by those people who cancel early. (This is only half a step because it's the same result as #1, but a different cause)

3) These companies don't pay as much as you claim, as the incremental losses spurned by "professional" users (or other users who don't remain subscribed long enough to recover the cost) would bleed a company dry with a fucking QUICKNESS.

Perhaps you have some alternates?

iamzim

01-06-2006 08:31:23

"Due to Microsoft's extremely limited supply of the Xbox 360's, we are unable to fulfill our customer's Xbox 360 orders at this time. We are encouraged by Microsoft's recent announcement that they are increasing production. However, we are unable to provide an expected shipping date at this time. We apologize for this inconvenience and thank you for you continued patience while we continue to work hard to fulfill your orders as soon as possible. "

um....

http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat66900050001&type=category
http//www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4196273
http//www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/catOid/-14201/N/20012841+20014201+2521/rpem/ccd/categorylist.do
A Really Big GameStop Link that Caused the Forum to Scroll[=http//www.gamestop.com/search.asp?keyword=&platform=32&filter=0&lookin=title&rangeFrom=0&rangeTo=all&genre=31&selection=ALL&searchtype=adv&sortby=default&OrderAscDesc=Asc&imageFlag=show&statcd=&searchbutton.x=116&searchbutton.y=18]A Really Big GameStop Link that Caused the Forum to Scroll
http//www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2291269&cp=2032062.2032401&parentPage=family
http//www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=334950&pfp=cat3
http//www.microcenter.com/game_room/games/game_hardware_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=229010
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16874100001

i'm sure there are plenty more....but i'm just too pissed to go looking for them!

Drakier

01-06-2006 08:50:21

mykevermin just because you don't personally believe it doesn't mean it isn't true.

as I said.. I've had personal experience WORKING with these companies and I know what a lot of them pay out in leads and referrals. As I said.... some are more, some are less.. It's all usually part of their marketing and advertising budget... and most companies have quite a large budget for it.

This is also the reason many offers are only on FreePay temporarily.. if they see that their services and advertising is costing them more than they are making, eventually they'll ask to be removed. For most companies, they get enough leads and referrals that they can continue to market in this fashion.. for smaller companies, it is more difficult.

We're not talking about mom-and-pop shops here. We're talking about medium-to-large business... venture capital, investment, advertising, etc.. I think you seriously underestimate the money that is behind a lot of these advertising campaigns and companies.

mykevermin

01-06-2006 09:41:57

I'm not underestimating anything, except, perhaps, the number of "successful" offers (those who sign up and continue to use the service rather than immediately cancel).

I'm merely talking about the mathematics of such payouts, and I can only speculate the ratio of people who sign up and cancel immediately to those who sign up and stay on, turning a profit for that company.

Like I said before, that ratio has to be extremely biased towards people signing up and staying on in order to be sustainable. If you break it down evenly (that half sign up to tickle, to keep that example, and cancel immediately, and half sign up and stay on), it's listillli an unsustainable model.

I don't underestimate the size of marketing budgets. I'm perceptive of the world in which I live, and have knowledge of marketing. I'm not talking about the size of budgets - that's apples and oranges to my explanation.

There are many offers that have been on FreePay for quite some time, and there are many that come and go very quickly. I don't think it has to do with a marketing budget in the slightest; rather, I'd argue that the companies that left weren't getting returns on their investment. Their budgets weren't being bled dry, but they were seeing an unsustainable pattern.

Don't get me wrong - I fully believe that the credit card companies, and perhaps Columbia House and/or Blockbuster/Netflix could easily make that size of a payout and still generate a profit from each referral who signed up. I'm talking about trial offers, or free offers, as being completely and totally unsustainable, mathematically, unless the number of people who continue to use the service, for a period lifar longerli than several months, significantly outweigh those people who sign up and cancel immediately.

It's not a matter of me personally believing it either. There's nothing to prove or disprove, unless someone can generate attachment rates for signups on certain offers via these companies, and that's information we're not privvy to. Lastly, if you're business savvy enough to try to establish credentials for yourself by stating that you worked for a company (and I'd like to know what you did do, as I'm certain you're overstating your case), but you're naive of business enough to suggest that a class-action lawsuit should only be done AFTER FP goes out of business, and has had ample time to declare bankruptcy protections (which means we ain't gettin' shit)!?!? C'mon, something doesn't add up here.

Drakier

01-06-2006 11:06:19

I said working WITH the companies, not working for them, although I currently do work in the Marketing department at a company. My main knowledge is in Web and Applications Development, but working in this department and working with the contacts I have has given me enough working knowledge to know how our company handles marketing, and working with these companies.

The point isn't how credentialed I am, but is actually the point that these companies DO pay out that much money per referral, and that with that in combination with the users who get more referrals than needed, FreePay makes their money, and the advertising companies attempt to make back their money on leads.

My knowledge isn't in business law, but I do know that creating frivolous class-action lawsuits does no one any good at all. Most judges can recognize frivolous lawsuits, and they will throw them out, and all that will end up happening is that both sides lose money on legal fees, and no one walks away with anything more than they walked in with.

The difference is whether the case has merit or not. Currently, FreePay hasn't done anything that would merit a lawsuit in terms of receiving product or sending giftcards. Trying to file a lawsuit against that would be a wasted effort and would only end up costing both you, and FreePay money that doesn't need to be wasted, and lining the pockets of the lawyers attempting to represent both sides.

If/When FreePay defaults on their agreement (most likely when they go out of business) then lawsuits can be filed, and Protection or not, the company is responsible for the settlement.. whether they can actually pay it or not is a different question, but that doesn't alleviate them of the burden of the settlement.

All I'm saying is that lawsuits at this point are fivolous and costly and a waste of money/effort unless you like lining the pockets of lawyers. I'd personally rather receive my free gift. If you'd rather spend money in an attempt to get something, then that's your issue, but when your decision affects me, then I'm going to make a fuss about it... the difference is that my decision doesn't affect you. Me wanting to wait to receive my product has no bearing on whether you get your product or not.

Yes I'm selfish in terms of wanting my product just as everyone else is, and I'm going to defend against anything that could jeopardize that. But filing a frivolous lawsuit jeopardizes a lot more than just my free product. It jeopardizes everyone elses free products (including your own) as well as the FreePay company, as well as the jobs of all the people working at FreePay, as well as all the investors of FreePay... If that isn't selfish, I don't know what is.

Menotti

01-06-2006 13:03:01

[quote799920e887="iamzim"]"Due to Microsoft's extremely limited supply of the Xbox 360's, we are unable to fulfill our customer's Xbox 360 orders at this time. We are encouraged by Microsoft's recent announcement that they are increasing production. However, we are unable to provide an expected shipping date at this time. We apologize for this inconvenience and thank you for you continued patience while we continue to work hard to fulfill your orders as soon as possible. "

um....

http//www.bestbuy.com/site/olspage.jsp?id=pcmcat66900050001&type=category
http//www.walmart.com/catalog/product.do?product_id=4196273
http//www.circuitcity.com/rpsm/catOid/-14201/N/20012841+20014201+2521/rpem/ccd/categorylist.do
A Really Big Long Gamestop Link that Caused the Forums to Scroll[=http//www.gamestop.com/search.asp?keyword=&platform=32&filter=0&lookin=title&rangeFrom=0&rangeTo=all&genre=31&selection=ALL&searchtype=adv&sortby=default&OrderAscDesc=Asc&imageFlag=show&statcd=&searchbutton.x=116&searchbutton.y=18]A Really Big Long Gamestop Link that Caused the Forums to Scroll
http//www.radioshack.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2291269&cp=2032062.2032401&parentPage=family
http//www.compusa.com/products/product_info.asp?product_code=334950&pfp=cat3
http//www.microcenter.com/game_room/games/game_hardware_single_product_results.phtml?product_id=229010
http//www.newegg.com/Product/Product.asp?Item=N82E16874100001

i'm sure there are plenty more....but i'm just too pissed to go looking for them![/quote799920e887]

It doesn't matter how many are out there. I've pretty much lost all faith that they are going to fulfill our orders. They could have bought us all giftcards by now and been done with it. There is a reason they aren't doing it, and it is NOT for our benefit.

dmorris68

01-06-2006 13:18:33

[quote1eaafdcf96="mykevermin"]Don't tell me what I'm not aware of. I understand how this works.

It seems that you're still estimating this costs. Where did you acquire this knowledge?[/quote1eaafdcf96]
Not that I have to come to Admin's defense, but you should be aware of whom you're speaking with. Not only does he own this site, and not only does he run FusionCash, but he also sells publisher accounts to several other freebie sites who get their offers through him.

So I believe he is infinitely more aware than you are of how this works. Other than perhaps Toppik, he isn't estimating anything -- he's telling you how they pay out because he would know. ;)

Wolfeman

01-06-2006 13:49:18

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/3ed1090d0364d7e31762a26dc369b470.gif[" alt=""/img62549a9a4c]

mykevermin

01-06-2006 16:37:38

[quotea16ff81ed0="dmorris68"][quotea16ff81ed0="mykevermin"]Don't tell me what I'm not aware of. I understand how this works.

It seems that you're still estimating this costs. Where did you acquire this knowledge?[/quotea16ff81ed0]
Not that I have to come to Admin's defense, but you should be aware of whom you're speaking with. Not only does he own this site, and not only does he run FusionCash, but he also sells publisher accounts to several other freebie sites who get their offers through him.

So I believe he is infinitely more aware than you are of how this works. Other than perhaps Toppik, he isn't estimating anything -- he's telling you how they pay out because he would know. ;)[/quotea16ff81ed0]

No, that's actually helpful. While I'd normally give someone with a custom title "Site Admin" the benefit of the doubt, (1) I've become an immense skeptic about damn near lieverythingli over the past few years, so I'm just being cynical, not playing holier than thou, and (2) most of the mods here are just antagonistic nitwits in the first place (in my experience) - so when one only sees mods like CollegeGraduate or Wolfeman acting in juvenile ways rather than acting in a way that conveys no sense of maturity or responsibility, it's hard to think that anyone else on this site would deserve any respect.

But that's all prejudging, really. I make no apologies for it. You have to understand how I consider it to be an unsustainable model - the three conclusions I list above (I underestimate the number of "successful" signups, the number of people who just don't cancel, or the model truly is unsustainable) only has one option where the companies aren't making money.

I'm not saying without a doubt that companies don't make money, but it's amazing that a company like tickle would pay out $50 on a signee that could feasibly only pay them $5. As I said above, knowing how financially feasible this business approach is depends on data that none of us, probably even admin, are privvy to.

Wolfeman

01-06-2006 16:39:43

Go fuck yourself ) I hope your 360 is defective http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/c4b2dd5e96b2cff14e87d30b22bfcc4d.gif[" alt=""/img4b47da3692]

CougarKid

01-06-2006 18:26:02

Wolfe you really shouldn't have come back in here. Just seems like more flaming while your in here.

Just a thought.

Also any possibility that we can get a GC to Target?

mykevermin

01-06-2006 21:05:08

[quote4c33e2737c="Wolfeman"]Go fuck yourself ) I hope your 360 is defective http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/c4b2dd5e96b2cff14e87d30b22bfcc4d.gif[" alt=""/img4c33e2737c][/quote4c33e2737c]

As much as I'd like to call this a "self-fulfilling prophecy," there's too much evidence prior to my previous post to make such a claim. Oh well, always a bridesmaid, never a bride, eh?

Wolfeman

01-06-2006 22:16:04

I'm always here because I'm a mod and watch a lot of threads. I don't care if mykevermin likes me or not and thats the point of my post...

CougarKid

01-06-2006 22:52:45

I thought it was your job to try and minimize problems. Guess not. Go on with your biz then.

Wolfeman

01-06-2006 22:54:27

Its my job to moderate, I don't get paid and I do a lot of work. I don't need some idiot taking jabs at me because Freepay is slacking shipping 360s...

Admin

01-06-2006 23:50:46

[quotec0c77db4b6="mykevermin"]You have to understand how I consider it to be an unsustainable model - the three conclusions I list above (I underestimate the number of "successful" signups, the number of people who just don't cancel, or the model truly is unsustainable) only has one option where the companies aren't making money.

I'm not saying without a doubt that companies don't make money, but it's amazing that a company like tickle would pay out $50 on a signee that could feasibly only pay them $5. As I said above, knowing how financially feasible this business approach is depends on data that none of us, probably even admin, are privvy to.[/quotec0c77db4b6]

Bottom line here is that you don't become a company with a large advertising budget (i.e. Tickle) by being stupid. Tickle pays well in excess of $50/lead for new signups. Why? Because it works. They are making money. They would not continue to raise their CPA and expand to additional networks (which they've been doing aggressively over the past month) if they were losing money. It's not something mystical; they, like everyone else, are in this to make money. I don't really care if you believe me or not, but I welcome you to sign up for a publisher account -- http//publishers.fusioncash.net/ -- and see how much we're paying for Tickle tests. $45 is the base rate. Surely with the middlemen Tickle is paying more than $50 -- I don't think you can argue against that.

1) I underestimate the number of "successful" signups
This is exactly what you are doing.

2) [I underestimate] the number of people who just don't cancel
Again, exactly what you're doing.

3) The model truly is unsustainable
Some businesses find that the model is not sustainable - I don't know if you recall but there was an offer called InFone a while back, which appeared and disappeared in a matter of days. On the other end of the spectrum, Python Media has been running offers such as Freebidding for ages. Video Professor has made so much money from incentive placements that they had their founder star in a video specifically tailored to incentive sites (https//secure.adprofile.net/tx/r?CID=57595&M=0&nopop=1).

[quotec0c77db4b6]As I said above, knowing how financially feasible this business approach is depends on data that none of us, probably even admin, are privvy to.[/quotec0c77db4b6]
Unless you're firmly entrenched in the market, you are going to find that hard numbers are difficult to come by. However, I have to disagree with what you're saying. Why in the name of shit would Video Professor continue to push for incentive placements for [ic0c77db4b6]years[/ic0c77db4b6] if they weren't making money? You can look at the plain and simple economics of it and deduce that they must have a backend conversion rate that results in a profit. I'm guessing it's something like 40-50%, which lets them offer a generous CPA (they're paying around $50) while still turning a profit.

I've spoken personally to people who run these incentive offers and they've told me plain and simple what the backend conversion rates are (i.e. the proporation of users that convert from free to paid trial). It's a profitable business when properly executed.

I'd just like to point out that yes, you are vastly overestimating the proporation of "pro" freebie pursuers out there. Freebie sites which have had any significant success (mine included) earmark tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars for new user acquisition. FusionCash has almost 10x as many users as FiPG - so even if every single FiPG user was a 'pro' and signed up for FusionCash, we'd still be 85% "regular" users from the internet at large.

Though I believe your opinion about the moderation of this site is at least somewhat founded in reality, it would perhaps behoove you to consider the work that we do. The vast majority of freebie site users are literally scum with no morals who will do anything for a quick buck. Moderators and admins get to deal with the WORST of that lot. I challenge you to maintain a positive outlook while moderating this forum. It's a lot easier to "shoot first, ask questions later" because it's impossible to overstimate the depths of depravity to which the average FiPG member will sink for $15.

mykevermin

02-06-2006 03:50:53

[quote594595ec84="Admin"][quote594595ec84="mykevermin"]You have to understand how I consider it to be an unsustainable model - the three conclusions I list above (I underestimate the number of "successful" signups, the number of people who just don't cancel, or the model truly is unsustainable) only has one option where the companies aren't making money.

I'm not saying without a doubt that companies don't make money, but it's amazing that a company like tickle would pay out $50 on a signee that could feasibly only pay them $5. As I said above, knowing how financially feasible this business approach is depends on data that none of us, probably even admin, are privvy to.[/quote594595ec84]

Bottom line here is that you don't become a company with a large advertising budget (i.e. Tickle) by being stupid. Tickle pays well in excess of $50/lead for new signups. Why? Because it works. They are making money. They would not continue to raise their CPA and expand to additional networks (which they've been doing aggressively over the past month) if they were losing money. It's not something mystical; they, like everyone else, are in this to make money. I don't really care if you believe me or not, but I welcome you to sign up for a publisher account -- http//publishers.fusioncash.net/ -- and see how much we're paying for Tickle tests. $45 is the base rate. Surely with the middlemen Tickle is paying more than $50 -- I don't think you can argue against that.

1) I underestimate the number of "successful" signups
This is exactly what you are doing.

2) [I underestimate] the number of people who just don't cancel
Again, exactly what you're doing.

3) The model truly is unsustainable
Some businesses find that the model is not sustainable - I don't know if you recall but there was an offer called InFone a while back, which appeared and disappeared in a matter of days. On the other end of the spectrum, Python Media has been running offers such as Freebidding for ages. Video Professor has made so much money from incentive placements that they had their founder star in a video specifically tailored to incentive sites (https//secure.adprofile.net/tx/r?CID=57595&M=0&nopop=1).

[quote594595ec84]As I said above, knowing how financially feasible this business approach is depends on data that none of us, probably even admin, are privvy to.[/quote594595ec84]
Unless you're firmly entrenched in the market, you are going to find that hard numbers are difficult to come by. However, I have to disagree with what you're saying. Why in the name of shit would Video Professor continue to push for incentive placements for [i594595ec84]years[/i594595ec84] if they weren't making money? You can look at the plain and simple economics of it and deduce that they must have a backend conversion rate that results in a profit. I'm guessing it's something like 40-50%, which lets them offer a generous CPA (they're paying around $50) while still turning a profit.

I've spoken personally to people who run these incentive offers and they've told me plain and simple what the backend conversion rates are (i.e. the proporation of users that convert from free to paid trial). It's a profitable business when properly executed.

I'd just like to point out that yes, you are vastly overestimating the proporation of "pro" freebie pursuers out there. Freebie sites which have had any significant success (mine included) earmark tens, if not hundreds, of thousands of dollars for new user acquisition. FusionCash has almost 10x as many users as FiPG - so even if every single FiPG user was a 'pro' and signed up for FusionCash, we'd still be 85% "regular" users from the internet at large.[/quote594595ec84]

That's perfectly believable and acceptable. I'd never contest so much the proportion of "pro" users (in what size of those who sign up for freebies are represented by those in the freebie 'scene') so much as I simply underestimated the number of successful signups. Well before I started coming to A4F or FiPG, I knew that I wasn't going to be what these companies wanted. I don't need anything remotely close to toppik remover, I don't need Video Professor, I don't need diet pills, or credit cards, or anything like that (OTOH, ironically, the only service I really wanted to try, Boca Java, never gave me credit for the offer I did do, so fuck them and their blended cheap roasts). I knew that, well before being a 'pro,' that I wasn't seriously taking these trials. So, while what I guess I'm saying is that there are more 'pros' than those who use these sites, but that even considering that, I'm still underestimating the number of people who attach to a site/service.

[quote594595ec84]Though I believe your opinion about the moderation of this site is at least somewhat founded in reality, it would perhaps behoove you to consider the work that we do. The vast majority of freebie site users are literally scum with no morals who will do anything for a quick buck. Moderators and admins get to deal with the WORST of that lot. I challenge you to maintain a positive outlook while moderating this forum. It's a lot easier to "shoot first, ask questions later" because it's impossible to overstimate the depths of depravity to which the average FiPG member will sink for $15.[/quote594595ec84]

Sure. That's an excuse, however, and one that I think is unfortunate. I don't know if I said so earlier, but I don't spend time in the trading thread, and most of my time spent on these forums is in here, so my experience with mods is limited; despite that, the few I've seen are obnoxious and more than happy to engage in a petty name-calling conflict, many times even an uninvited one, simply because it fails to conform to what makes them happy. I'm sure that pro users are shady, because I've been scammed once by a trader on another site, and I continually read accounts of people taking the most devious means of acquiring $15 paypal imaginable. OTOH, you (or someone else on this site) found some redeeming means for making them mods (unless it was the old "these cats are ALWAYS online" schtick). Rather than consolidating threads that are redundant, locking threads or editing posts, I'm more likely to see them engaged in a flame war that they instigated because someone lidaredli to suggest that FreePay's business practices aren't stellar as they were towards the tail end of 2005. If they happen to like them, that's fine. I've just never seen it carried out in a more juvenile, and less rational/mature, manner. It's fucking kindergarten sometimes, I swear.

(though, of course, it's up for debate whether or not shitty users make shitty mods, though I'd say it's a good ol' tautological dual causation)

Anyway, this has gotten way off topic, though I appreciate your input. I'll leave the thread now to allow the return of people crying the blues because FreePay can't find giftcards or 360s, yet have no interest in pursuing legal avenues for compensation, while the moderators yuk it up about remote controls and mock anyone who hints at FreePay's potentially poor financial state.

justinag06

02-06-2006 04:42:50

I think now that the May 30th day has passed we will see a lot of thing improving over at freepay, compared to how they have been the past couple months.

by that I mean crediting, customer service, approval time, and most importantly gift shipment speed

They've been in transition mode since march, and now that the worst of it is done, they should be set in for a nice long stay

Menotti

02-06-2006 07:12:44

Hope you're right, justinag06. I'm not holding my breath, though.

mpbollywoodking

02-06-2006 13:04:05

so for the people that are STV'ed (orginally for the $400 giftcards), are they getting the system or the g/c?? That is what i'm confused on

Drakier

02-06-2006 13:15:30

[quoteb0c585f3f4="mpbollywoodking"]so for the people that are STV'ed (orginally for the $400 giftcards), are they getting the system or the g/c?? That is what i'm confused on[/quoteb0c585f3f4]

my best guess would be anyone that is STV and ordered a giftcard will be getting a giftcard.

I don't think anyone who [bb0c585f3f4]didn't[/bb0c585f3f4] order a giftcard is STV.

mpbollywoodking

02-06-2006 13:17:05

ya, but i mean, we have been waiting for the g/c for a two months, so if the 360's become available to them, would we get the system or would they go out their way to get us the g/c that are STV'ed right now, because i honestly would rather get the system

Drakier

02-06-2006 13:34:18

I highly doubt they're going to start sending out systems AND get all the way to your order for the system before they are able to send out a lot more giftcards.

I honestly don't think they'll even START shipping xbox's for at least another month (not that I have any insider informatiojn... I'm just making an educated guess). I hope to be pleasantly surprised if they do start shipping actual systems anytime soon.

So.. my best guess is that if you placed an order for a giftcard, you're going to get a giftcard... if you didn't place an order for a giftcard, then you're waiting until the systems start getting shipped and they get to your order.

I don't know WHEN you'll get either the giftcard or the xbox, but that is my prediction.

CougarKid

02-06-2006 20:57:28

I asked Jake if they do decide to ship consoles soon that I would like the actual console and not that giftcard. Lets's see what happens.

dmorris68

03-06-2006 08:05:13

It was said in another thread that people were STV that didn't ask for GC's, and also that Freepay got 100 consoles to ship out soon. However that would have be a very small drop in the bucket at this point. Perhaps they found some more to ship out.

junkie06

03-06-2006 08:08:00

i wonder if we will get them today or monday

dmorris68

03-06-2006 08:15:59

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plusnightlife

03-06-2006 11:31:00

[quoteab00da8882="justinag06"]I think now that the May 30th day has passed we will see a lot of thing improving over at freepay, compared to how they have been the past couple months.

by that I mean crediting, customer service, approval time, and most importantly gift shipment speed

They've been in transition mode since march, and now that the worst of it is done, they should be set in for a nice long stay[/quoteab00da8882]

ill believe it when i see it

justinag06

03-06-2006 12:33:38

looks like lots of people are STV on the 360 systems, so that is already happening

Menotti

04-06-2006 08:35:09

I would like to know if the people who previously went STV on giftcards will get giftcards or a 360. This obviously pertains to those people who would fall within the first 100 orders.

iamzim

05-06-2006 07:25:53

DOUBLE-YOU TEE EFF!!!!!!!!!!! Freepay Closed my CS ticket without answering me!!

Drakier

05-06-2006 08:31:29

You're not alone. My ticket was closed as well.. it wasn't even about the xbox or even on my xbox account. I was asking a question about the Ipod Nano account, and it got closed without answer.

wtf is about right.

iamzim

05-06-2006 12:55:49

Ok, no response from CS today. I just want to find out if i'm getting my damn 360 or the giftcard!!! If I'm not getting my gc, i'm going to have to take my system out of lay-away pretty damn quick before they keep the money i've already put down, and if they keep my money, i'm going to be just a little (read a lot) pissed off at freepay for costing me $40!!

jeff7602

05-06-2006 14:27:29

Freepay didn't cost you $40, your impatience cost you $40. We all know that you can not hold any water in what freepay says timeframe wise, so you putting money down on what freepay (or Jake) said about a timeframe issue was your mistake.

Stroid

05-06-2006 14:44:58

yeah i have been processing since 6-13-2005 and i missed the first giftcards for the 360 but i have been STV On the 360 for the giftcard for over a month i believe. i dont care which i get as long as i get something and it would be nice to receive it before i have been processing for over a year. but either way i am thankful for whatever i do get

iamzim

06-06-2006 03:21:53

[quote245b8b3cee="jeff7602"]Freepay didn't cost you $40, your impatience cost you $40. We all know that you can not hold any water in what freepay says timeframe wise, so you putting money down on what freepay (or Jake) said about a timeframe issue was your mistake.[/quote245b8b3cee]

well, i wouldnt have to worry about it if CS would just get back to me and answer if i'm stv for the giftcard still or the system!!

edit so i don't have a double post

I FINALLY got a response from FP's customer service!!

"Thank you for contacting Freepay Customer Service. You will receive a gift card instead of the xbox because we have sent your order to the gift card lists already. Now we have been waiting for the approval to send them out. Please be patient. We are sincerely sorry for the delay. Sincerely, The Freepay Customer Service Team"

So what does this mean??

1.)I (and everyone else who was STV for a giftcard)will still get giftcards
2.)I (and freepay) HAVE NO IDEA WHEN THE F#&$ I WILL GET IT!!!
3.)I call BS on them being sincerely sorry!

nickman

06-06-2006 09:02:08

they've been waiting like 3-4 weeks for approval to send them out

iamzim

06-06-2006 09:38:50

[quoteb8e2affa3c="nickman"]they've been waiting like 3-4 weeks for approval to send them out[/quoteb8e2affa3c]

Longer than that! they approved us on like, the 22nd of april!! by my count, that's about 6 weeks!

Sebring

06-06-2006 11:27:36

My xbox 360 will be delivered today, 6/6/6 ) I've been processing since July 11th 2005 and I didn't request the GC )

mpbollywoodking

06-06-2006 12:42:40

Here is the reply they gave me concerning whether people who requested the GC earlier is now STV'd for the GC or the system

[quote5888c17830]Thank you for contacting Freepay Customer Service. Due to you requested to receive the gift card instead of the xbox, we will send the gift card to your email address. The email regarding 100 xbox shipment will not apply to your case. Please be patient. Sincerely, The Freepay Customer Service Team[/quote5888c17830]

doylnea

06-06-2006 13:49:30

I think the most interestering thing about the recent STV development is that there were less than 100 orders between 05/05 and at 01/06 (when mbollywood) appears to have ordered...I would have guessed there were/are far more orders in that period of time.

i blame history

06-06-2006 14:00:31

[quote5f55cc869f="doylnea"]I think the most interestering thing about the recent STV development is that there were less than 100 orders between 05/05 and at 01/06 (when mbollywood) appears to have ordered...I would have guessed there were/are far more orders in that period of time.[/quote5f55cc869f]

yeah, that is what is throwing me off... i know many people took the gift card option, but i am thinking of this...... freepay did not want to settle for 300 or so systems because they wanted to knock out a substantial part of their list... fair enough, so one can imagine the list is at least 600 people long (although getting rid of half of it would be substantial in my mind). gift cards were offered, some people took them.... but i am having a hard time believing that even 100 people took that option due to how many people would have known (er... not known) that they could get a gift card instead..... let alone 400+ people getting gift cards.....

/ramble

i knew i would get my system if i just waited, and i was correct. i didnt complain too much because it would not have affected anything. i just also think its strange that 100 systems satisfies every order through january, when not too long ago, freepay didnt want to send 'only' 300 systems... unless they sent out waaaaaaay more gift cards that i can imagine.

CougarKid

06-06-2006 14:08:44

[quoteab0b2a7585="Sebring"]My xbox 360 will be delivered today, 6/6/6 ) I've been processing since July 11th 2005 and I didn't request the GC )[/quoteab0b2a7585]

Sweet! shock D

Hopefully they get some January's out soon.

Stroid

06-06-2006 14:12:00

i havent complained once up until now because i am a bit aggravated that i ordered the gc thinking i would receive it quicker then the xbox..but no they ship out a bunch of xbox's and the people that ordered gc get to wait more for the item i just dont think i should be waiting anymore since i have been processing for the site since 6-13-05 but at the same time im not mad at freepay cause i already have a 360 but damn i need that gc so i can convert it to money i need that shit.

junkie06

06-06-2006 14:58:08

just got my 360 from freepay after processing since may 2005

Menotti

06-06-2006 16:05:37

[quote467309959f="junkie06"]just got my 360 from freepay after processing since may 2005[/quote467309959f]

I want to see proof, heh.

junkie06

06-06-2006 16:36:55

my brother has my cam

bruman

06-06-2006 19:21:39

I got mine though
http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=40713

iamzim

07-06-2006 07:38:36

"Once an order has been placed, it is added to a queue on a first come first served basis. We currently do not carry excess inventory in our fulfillment center therefore your product is not ordered from the manufacturer until it has been placed. Furthermore, orders are bundled together and ordered in bulk typically on a monthly basis. Therefore we are unable to provide a specific timeframe.

These steps are necessary in order for us to continue to provide free products to our customers. We recognize this may further delay receipt of your product but want to assure you of our commitment to honor all legitimate orders. We apologize that further inquiries into this matter can not be processed, as there is no additional information available until your order status has changed from ‘pending’ or ‘processing’ to ‘shipped’. We appreciate your continued patience."

I wonder how many giftcards they need to have before they "bulk order" a bunch of emails?? if that's the case, us waiting for the 360 giftcards will never get them for 2 reasons
1.) they are probably not accepting any more giftcards for 360s
2.) if they dont have enough for the bulk order, they won't order them

so, i guess that means that we all just got raped by freepay!

Drakier

07-06-2006 08:49:54

[quote59b9ef56ab="iamzim"]I wonder how many giftcards they need to have before they "bulk order" a bunch of emails?? if that's the case, us waiting for the 360 giftcards will never get them for 2 reasons
1.) they are probably not accepting any more giftcards for 360s
2.) if they dont have enough for the bulk order, they won't order them

so, i guess that means that we all just got raped by freepay![/quote59b9ef56ab]

umm.. I don't think so. yes they order cards in bulk.. yes they are probably not accepting giftcards for the 360's anymore.

but those 2 things don't mean that they will never have enough gift cards ever again.. you forget that these giftcards come from the freegiftcards.com site which is still fully operational. It's only a matter of time before they finish processing all the giftcard orders. Don't get yourself in a twist over it. FreePay isn't "raping" anyone. provided FreePay doesn't go out of business, you WILL get your giftcard/xbox. The question is not IF, but WHEN.

Saying things like you said in your post only stirs people up and creates fear among them... it's generally referred to as "Fear Mongering". Creating needless fear. It's useless and only stirs up trouble. Just be patient and wait as FreePay says.

iamzim

07-06-2006 09:14:13

(aside from my sarcasm) I was actually implying that the 360 giftcards were a completely separate entity from the giftcards giftcards. seeing as how they're $300 and the 360 ones are $400... but damn, i was joking, calm down!

CollidgeGraduit

07-06-2006 09:34:07

Easy, folks.. I know the situation is frustrating, but just try and be patient with each other.

iamzim

07-06-2006 09:45:02

I'm sorry Drakier, let's be friends again! whaddya say? toast

Drakier

07-06-2006 09:55:28

lol.. I wasn't upset.. just don't want people reading the thread and being confused or otherwise misled.

people come to this site to get information... and hope that all the information is actually factual and correct...

saying things like that isn't factual or correct, and could lead people to the wrong conclusions. It's a mis-representation which I hope to avoid.

That's the only reason I wanted to clarify the situation. I've been one of those users seeking information. I also know how damaging mis-information can be.

I agree with CollidgeGraduit that frustrations are high, but everyone just needs to remain patient. The more patient everyone is, the smoother things move along. The less Customer Support is bothered by people asking "Where's my product" the faster they can answer the other questions about "why's my account on hold" and stuff.

patience is key.

mpbollywoodking

07-06-2006 11:35:04

How completely of an vague answer is this?

6/6/2006 35731 PM
Me wrote
Concerning the last inquiery, if I hadn't requested for a giftcard, would I be among the 100 xbox360's? If I request for the 360 instead of the giftcard now, is it too late to be in that 100 xbox360 range? If it is too late, when can I expect the giftcard to be emailed?

6/7/2006 124917 PM
customer service wrote
Thank you for contacting Freepay customer service. I apologize for the delays with your gift card order. Your order has indeed been submitted however the order is still being processed and has not yet been shipped. When your order is marked as STV, you will know that we have completed processing it and our vendor has received it. Once your order is marked as Shipped, it has been sent to your email address. If you do not see it at this time, please contact us again and we will instruct you on how to arrange a reship.

iamzim

07-06-2006 11:39:47

^^^ yeah, i know, i got that response about 3 weeks ago. we're all STV for the giftcards, so...i don't know what's up with that. it's pretty much saying that once we're stv, they've completed processing it and we'll be getting it soon, however, we're not done processing because their management hasnt approved the GC order. so, it's a complete bsflag CS response

plusnightlife

07-06-2006 16:56:35

i've noticed 2-3 people in the brag bag posting about the 360s theyve received

misa1125

07-06-2006 22:07:13

so I finally got my 360 today from freepay...im happy.

HOWEVER. I open the look at the label on the system and it says MFG Date 2005-10-03. Thats october of 2005. I got stuck with a First generation 360...without a remote. totally not cool.

?

iamzim

08-06-2006 03:20:21

^^ That sucks! when were you processing??

CougarKid

08-06-2006 08:36:44

[quoted027ef5136="misa1125"]so I finally got my 360 today from freepay...im happy.

HOWEVER. I open the look at the label on the system and it says MFG Date 2005-10-03. Thats october of 2005. I got stuck with a First generation 360...without a remote. totally not cool.

?[/quoted027ef5136]

Ouch. I would honestly complain about that one.

i blame history

08-06-2006 08:49:11

[quotea31f5c9e8b="misa1125"]so I finally got my 360 today from freepay...im happy.

HOWEVER. I open the look at the label on the system and it says MFG Date 2005-10-03. Thats october of 2005. I got stuck with a First generation 360...without a remote. totally not cool.

?[/quotea31f5c9e8b]

thats odd... i checked mine this morning, and it was 2006-2-9

the brown box that my system actually came in appears to also have been used to ship it TO the distribution center or wherever, as well... under the flap was an old label which described the contents of the box, named who it was to be sent to before it got to me, and had the date of "june 02 2006" which made me feel better in the sense that it kind of acts as proof that the systems werent sitting somewhere for months on end waiting for someone to give the OK to send them out.

someone opened it up, stuck a mousepad and sticker inside, and hid the old label under the flap that had my address label stuck to it. props to whoever for reusing the boxes. goooooo recycling!

Drakier

08-06-2006 08:57:49

[quote96322add1b="misa1125"]so I finally got my 360 today from freepay...im happy.

HOWEVER. I open the look at the label on the system and it says MFG Date 2005-10-03. Thats october of 2005. I got stuck with a First generation 360...without a remote. totally not cool.

?[/quote96322add1b]

You would have gotten a first gen before.. why complain about getting a first gen now? If you would have received it back when they were first launch, it's the exact same XBox that you would have received... and need I remind people that these products are essentially free? At least you're getting something... a lot of other people around here would be happy with getting anything at this point.

I can understand being upset that you didn't get a newer system or a remote.. I would be as well... but on the flip-side, I'd be happy having an xbox 360 for free as well. lishrugli I think that out-weights the negative... unless for some reason the xbox was completely defective and didn't work at all.

kagai

08-06-2006 09:33:53

[quoted6608297c9="Drakier"][quoted6608297c9="misa1125"]so I finally got my 360 today from freepay...im happy.

HOWEVER. I open the look at the label on the system and it says MFG Date 2005-10-03. Thats october of 2005. I got stuck with a First generation 360...without a remote. totally not cool.

?[/quoted6608297c9]

You would have gotten a first gen before.. why complain about getting a first gen now? If you would have received it back when they were first launch, it's the exact same XBox that you would have received... and need I remind people that these products are essentially free? At least you're getting something... a lot of other people around here would be happy with getting anything at this point.

I can understand being upset that you didn't get a newer system or a remote.. I would be as well... but on the flip-side, I'd be happy having an xbox 360 for free as well. lishrugli I think that out-weights the negative... unless for some reason the xbox was completely defective and didn't work at all.[/quoted6608297c9]

Yeah, what the hell is wrong with you for getting upset about getting a potentially used system, when you should have gotten a new one. You're so ungrateful!! roll

iamzim

08-06-2006 09:41:59

^^ probably not used, but definately at risk for all of the problems had by the first run of consoles. i.e. bad overheating and the ring around the disks.

i blame history

08-06-2006 09:42:25

[quotecd392f2d6e="kagai"][quotecd392f2d6e="Drakier"][quotecd392f2d6e="misa1125"]so I finally got my 360 today from freepay...im happy.

HOWEVER. I open the look at the label on the system and it says MFG Date 2005-10-03. Thats october of 2005. I got stuck with a First generation 360...without a remote. totally not cool.

?[/quotecd392f2d6e]

You would have gotten a first gen before.. why complain about getting a first gen now? If you would have received it back when they were first launch, it's the exact same XBox that you would have received... and need I remind people that these products are essentially free? At least you're getting something... a lot of other people around here would be happy with getting anything at this point.

I can understand being upset that you didn't get a newer system or a remote.. I would be as well... but on the flip-side, I'd be happy having an xbox 360 for free as well. lishrugli I think that out-weights the negative... unless for some reason the xbox was completely defective and didn't work at all.[/quotecd392f2d6e]

Yeah, what the hell is wrong with you for getting upset about getting a potentially used system, when you should have gotten a new one. You're so ungrateful!! roll[/quotecd392f2d6e]

i apologize if i am totally missing something, and feel free to smack me if i am, but i dont think thre is anything about the system being potentially used....? it is simply one of the ones that was manufactured first, meaning it has been sitting somewhere since last october, and it was obviosuly part of the very first bunch that had glitches, as with many new things like this. i dont think it would have been used, its just older.

i guess i would have been annoyed if mine was old as well, but seeing as i had just about given up on getting anything at all, i would be happy with whatever i was given.

CollidgeGraduit

08-06-2006 09:46:48

[quotedfac2ddd30="kagai"][quotedfac2ddd30="Drakier"][quotedfac2ddd30="misa1125"]so I finally got my 360 today from freepay...im happy.

HOWEVER. I open the look at the label on the system and it says MFG Date 2005-10-03. Thats october of 2005. I got stuck with a First generation 360...without a remote. totally not cool.

?[/quotedfac2ddd30]

You would have gotten a first gen before.. why complain about getting a first gen now? If you would have received it back when they were first launch, it's the exact same XBox that you would have received... and need I remind people that these products are essentially free? At least you're getting something... a lot of other people around here would be happy with getting anything at this point.

I can understand being upset that you didn't get a newer system or a remote.. I would be as well... but on the flip-side, I'd be happy having an xbox 360 for free as well. lishrugli I think that out-weights the negative... unless for some reason the xbox was completely defective and didn't work at all.[/quotedfac2ddd30]

Yeah, what the hell is wrong with you for getting upset about getting a potentially used system, when you should have gotten a new one. You're so ungrateful!! roll[/quotedfac2ddd30]

Kagai, sarcasm and flaming is not the way to stay around FIPG. Everyone is frustrated at the situation, but being rude doesn't help.

mpbollywoodking

08-06-2006 10:39:23

wow, if the systems are that dated, it probably will have those glitches. i guess i'm happy now that i requested for a g/c

i blame history

08-06-2006 10:53:24

[quote4654f42ddc="mpbollywoodking"]wow, if the systems are that dated, it probably will have those glitches. i guess i'm happy now that i requested for a g/c[/quote4654f42ddc]

i would be interesred in seeing just how many people got older systems. being made 4 months ago, i dont really consider mine to be too old, though.

kagai

08-06-2006 11:13:49

Well, maybe you should check out this thread and then decide http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58076

Oh wait, I forgot, (robotic voice) "FreePay is good. Everything is fine here. It is normal to wait nine weeks for approval and almost a year for your freebie. It is free. Beggars can't be choosers. FreePay is benevolent and we should be grateful for everything they do for us! Bend over and take it like a man!" I hope that isn't sarcastic!

i blame history

08-06-2006 11:35:15

[quote2c9e313ee5="kagai"]Well, maybe you should check out this thread and then decide http//www.anything4free.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=58076

Oh wait, I forgot, (robotic voice) "FreePay is good. Everything is fine here. It is normal to wait nine weeks for approval and almost a year for your freebie. It is free. Beggars can't be choosers. FreePay is benevolent and we should be grateful for everything they do for us! Bend over and take it like a man!" I hope that isn't sarcastic![/quote2c9e313ee5]

it seems like you WANT to be banned.

as for the a4f thread i dont even remember if mine was taped. the system was all wrapped very neatly inside the box, and everything was packaged neatly, as are all things that come from the factory... packaged in a way that once you take everything out, its going to be very hard to get it back in perfectly. refurb? who knows. i guess i will have to look at it a bit closer. i had NO time last night to even finish unpacking it, and i only got so far as to take the system itself out.
the box itself (the xbox box) had beaten up corners that i automatically attributed to geing jammed inside the brown box for shipping. i was not too concerned... i had to tip it upside down to shake it loose because it fit in there so tightly, so the smashed corners didnt concern me.

kagai

08-06-2006 12:01:42

Yeah, ban me for posting my thoughts on this whole FreePay travesty. It seems like any dissent on this forum is met with ban comments and flaming. Well, guess what, something stinks at FreePay whether you want to believe it or not!

I just finished a Trainn site 4/26, approved and ordered 5/5 and it shipped out today 5/8. This is the way to run a freebie site!

i blame history

08-06-2006 12:13:44

[quoted19a696aea="kagai"]Yeah, ban me for posting my thoughts on this whole FreePay travesty. It seems like any dissent on this forum is met with ban comments and flaming. Well, guess what, something stinks at FreePay whether you want to believe it or not!

I just finished a Trainn site 4/26, approved and ordered 5/5 and it shipped out today 5/8. This is the way to run a freebie site![/quoted19a696aea]

there is a difference between voicing concern/displeasure and being immature about it, though. i dont think many peopel here are too happy with freepay at the moment, but fifty people saying "omg freepay sucks they need to give me my stuff and then go die" will not help anything.

dmorris68

08-06-2006 12:16:02

[quote1f5b9b17b6="kagai"]Yeah, ban me for posting my thoughts on this whole FreePay travesty. It seems like any dissent on this forum is met with ban comments and flaming. Well, guess what, something stinks at FreePay whether you want to believe it or not!

I just finished a Trainn site 4/26, approved and ordered 5/5 and it shipped out today 5/8. This is the way to run a freebie site![/quote1f5b9b17b6]
The problem isn't your dissent -- there is PLENTY of that here against Freepay. We never ban or close threads for dissenting opinions... unlike some other popular freebie forum that I won't name.

On the other hand, we don't allow flaming and insults. And smart-ass cracks towards mods are especially unappreciated. Drop the attitude and you can dissent all you like, otherwise you can stick to the other forums.

misa1125

08-06-2006 13:48:58

[quote5a8b7a6a69="Drakier"]
You would have gotten a first gen before.. why complain about getting a first gen now? If you would have received it back when they were first launch, it's the exact same XBox that you would have received... and need I remind people that these products are essentially free? At least you're getting something... a lot of other people around here would be happy with getting anything at this point.

I can understand being upset that you didn't get a newer system or a remote.. I would be as well... but on the flip-side, I'd be happy having an xbox 360 for free as well. lishrugli I think that out-weights the negative... unless for some reason the xbox was completely defective and didn't work at all.[/quote5a8b7a6a69]

the reason im a little upset is that IMO the ONLY postive side to waiting all these months for the 360, was that there was more of a chance that id be getting a glitch-free system. The first generation systems had ALOT of problems with overheating and scratching. its now 8 months later, the problems are mostly fixed, but 8 months later im still stuck with a first gen system.

I am grateful that I actually got something. buy my postive side of waiting for the system was totally shot down. And im not totally blaming freepay either, because ive read xbox forums where ppl have gone in last week, and gotten first gen systems out of the store.

[quote5a8b7a6a69="i blame history"]
as for the a4f thread i dont even remember if mine was taped. the system was all wrapped very neatly inside the box, and everything was packaged neatly, as are all things that come from the factory... packaged in a way that once you take everything out, its going to be very hard to get it back in perfectly. refurb? who knows. i guess i will have to look at it a bit closer. i had NO time last night to even finish unpacking it, and i only got so far as to take the system itself out.
the box itself (the xbox box) had beaten up corners that i automatically attributed to geing jammed inside the brown box for shipping. i was not too concerned... i had to tip it upside down to shake it loose because it fit in there so tightly, so the smashed corners didnt concern me.[/quote5a8b7a6a69]

hehe, i had the same issue with teh corners jammed inside the brown box, and i also had to turn it upside down to get it out. lol. but yea, when you do get a chance to look at the packaging, please let me know. That a4f thread was mine, and the info bout the packaging could be really helpful to me. Thanks.

Drakier

08-06-2006 15:31:59

It's understandable that you're upset.. I don't blame you at all for it.. but at the same time.. as I said.. it's free, and plenty of people would love a chance to get ANY system.. first gen or not.

Sorry you got stuck with a first gen.

Menotti

08-06-2006 17:12:55

All this version / generation discussion is pretty moot. From Xbox-Scene

[quote67df0610fd]Here's how you tell what version you have

STEP1
-hold the case in front of you and look at the case
-Make sure there is good lighting so you can see well

STEP2
-examine the color of the case

STEP3
-if it's white you have a V1.0
-it it's not white you're not holding a 360

There is only one version/generation of the Xbox 360 so far, it's the version everyone has. There may be slight variations in some of the internal components, like the DVD drive, or memory brands, but those things do not define a new version or generation of the console.

If someone tell you they have a "2nd Gen" or "3rd Gen" Xbox 360 they're either ignorant or lying. There's no version that works better then another version... THERE IS JUST ONE VERSION; some work some don't.

When a new version of the hardware DOES surface, expect to see it on the XS news page, and this topic will be updated on how to tell.[/quote67df0610fd]

Let's keep to the real issues, like unfulfilled giftcards and 360 orders, not complaining about having the wrong version of the system when there was obviously not a lot of research done.

tomraffe

09-06-2006 01:28:11

Well said.

Anyone know the status of consoles in the UK? I'm still processing.

Ethan

09-06-2006 08:12:11

So, what's going on? I am abroad right now so I can only check in every once in awhile but it seems that Jake hasn't even posted in a long time. Whuzzupidat?

tomraffe

09-06-2006 09:32:18

For any curious UK members

"Thank you for contacting Freepay customer service. We are currently waiting on an order to be shipped to our UK fulfillment vendor. Once that happens, we will begin to ship them to our waiting UK customers."

So it seems Freepay have located sources for the UK consoles, so it shouldnt be too long before they start shipping in the UK soon. I assume the waiting lists for UK customers are smaller as well, so even though my order was only sent in May I may even be in the first batch! Fingers crossed.

iamzim

09-06-2006 11:51:15

It has been 7 FULL business weeks since everybody went STV for the giftcards instead of the 360s. 7 FULL WEEKS their management has been "approving" this giftcard order.

"Thank you for contacting Freepay customer service. I apologize for the delays with your gift card order. Your order has indeed been submitted however the order is still being processed and has not yet been shipped. Your order is marked as STV. Once your order is marked as Shipped, it has been sent to your email address. If you do not see it at this time, please contact us again and we will instruct you on how to arrange a reship."

so, how long does it take to process an email for a supercert?? 35 days? i'm pretty sure not.

from the BBB on freepay
Customer Experience
Based on BBB files, this company has an unsatisfactory record with the Bureau due to unanswered complaint(s).

Customer Complaint Data
Number of complaints processed by the BBB over the last 36 months 414
Number of complaints processed by the BBB in the last 12 months 222

Menotti

10-06-2006 09:37:31

I filed a complaint about a month and a half ago (I think it was), and got a "resolution" today in the mail. It's basically a half hearted fax that Gratis sent to BBB, and then the BBB mailed it to me. It didn't resolve a think. Actually, it looked like a CSR response.

I'll scan it at my buddy's house and show you guys later on.

JerriBlank

11-06-2006 21:24:42

[quotee45328794b="mpbollywoodking"]wow, if the systems are that dated, it probably will have those glitches. i guess i'm happy now that i requested for a g/c[/quotee45328794b]

Yeah, if they're shipping first-generation consoles, I'm probably going to request a GC if it's not too late. We bought a 360 just before Christmas and are now on our 4th replacement. All the replacement 360s had a manufacture date close to launch.

We ended up going to Best Buy in May and buying a core system so that we'd have something more recent and reliable, since Microsoft can't seem to replace our original 360 with something that will work for more than two weeks.


jb

nickman

12-06-2006 07:17:47

i just got my $400 gift certificate from freepay!! woohoooooo

iamzim

12-06-2006 07:30:03

WOOHOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! got my supercert too!!!!!

mpbollywoodking

12-06-2006 07:53:06

me too!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Drakier

12-06-2006 08:44:26

See.. all that for what?

all it takes is a little patience... sometimes more than others, but you got it eventually.

jetblack85

12-06-2006 09:00:17

Got it this morning as well... D

mpbollywoodking

12-06-2006 09:08:10

Now i want to know how to redeem and have it delivered to my home, any directions would be helpful

CougarKid

12-06-2006 09:48:37

Yeah I would like the same too. Woot!!!!

iamzim

12-06-2006 09:55:32

just go through the process of redeeming it, and it'll ask for your address!

CougarKid

12-06-2006 10:14:12

Done. How long is the process from ordering your GC's to your door?

iamzim

12-06-2006 10:20:30

well, i got my confirmation of my order, and it's coming fed-ex 2nd day. so, i'd assume no later than wednesday!

mpbollywoodking

12-06-2006 11:08:05

[quotef62cbd8029="iamzim"]just go through the process of redeeming it, and it'll ask for your address![/quotef62cbd8029]

i clicked on Redeem, now what?

Wolfeman

12-06-2006 11:23:50

31 pages of crying, I want to throw this thread away...

Drakier

12-06-2006 14:01:26

Hopefully with FreePay actually shipping stuff now, the whining will go away, and it will become an "I got it!" status-type thread.... licrosses fingersli we can only hope.

Menotti

12-06-2006 16:03:01

[quote8dc4ebc348="Wolfeman"]31 pages of crying, I want to throw this thread away...[/quote8dc4ebc348]

Come on man, you're making like a lot of us didn't have legit gripes.

CougarKid

12-06-2006 16:27:59

Well my cards shipped today Fedex 2-day and that makes it my last ever Freepay site.

You gave me a PSP, DS, and now $400 for a Xbox 360. Thanks and that's all for them.

mpbollywoodking

12-06-2006 18:08:04

basically, i got everything possible from Freepay that I was originally going for, except for the PSP, but another site is taking care of it

jeff7602

12-06-2006 19:13:18

Now on to those of us waiting on a system. I wonder when they will get another batch of 360's. They said they had 100 last time, it shouldn't be to hard to get their hands on some more. I'm hoping to get mine by the end of August.

junkie06

12-06-2006 20:14:28

it took them half a year to get 100

iamzim

13-06-2006 06:42:38

WOOHOO!!! My GCs are on truck for delivery!! -)

doylnea

13-06-2006 06:49:45

[quoteb032163ff1="Menotti"][quoteb032163ff1="Wolfeman"]31 pages of crying, I want to throw this thread away...[/quoteb032163ff1]

Come on man, you're making like a lot of us didn't have legit gripes.[/quoteb032163ff1]

You're still complaining? Be happy, move on.

doylnea

13-06-2006 06:50:29

[quote07421f6f66="jeff7602"]Now on to those of us waiting on a system. I wonder when they will get another batch of 360's. They said they had 100 last time, it shouldn't be to hard to get their hands on some more. I'm hoping to get mine by the end of August.[/quote07421f6f66]

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/9368014f01f833bb82908ea204cf128c.gif[" alt=""/img07421f6f66]

iamzim

13-06-2006 10:12:34

dammit! the parents left the house for 15 minutes, and on the way back, saw the fed-ex truck leaving the street!!! ARGH!! another delivery attempt tomorrow, hopefully they'll stay at home like they said they would today!

egyptianruin

13-06-2006 10:14:43

[quote0d0215fa15="iamzim"]dammit! the parents left the house for 15 minutes, and on the way back, saw the fed-ex truck leaving the street!!! ARGH!! another delivery attempt tomorrow, hopefully they'll stay at home like they said they would today![/quote0d0215fa15]

If you call them you can schedule to pick it up tonight, just a thought. wink

iamzim

13-06-2006 10:17:28

their dist. center is about a 45 minute drive for me!! I'd rather save my gas! (besides, i won't be able to pick up the system till thursday at the earliest, so i'm not too worried about it! I just wanted the satisfaction that i'm done with freepay. )

CollidgeGraduit

13-06-2006 10:47:33

iamzim - are you in the Traverse City area?

iamzim

13-06-2006 10:53:10

[quote16c9928413="CollidgeGraduit"]iamzim - are you in the Traverse City area?[/quote16c9928413]
nope, Cleveland area here!

CougarKid

13-06-2006 11:31:30

Got my stuff already. shock

8x$50= Wootness!!!

And I'm in Cali.

http/" alt=""/img.photobucket.com/albums/v449/CougarKid/giftcardscopy.jpg[/img83a5f13a84]

Thanks Freepay

mpbollywoodking

13-06-2006 12:11:01

got mine today

dbattle

13-06-2006 13:51:24

I'm new here. Just wondering how it is that people were able to get GC instead of the XBXO 360. What do I need to do?

CougarKid

13-06-2006 15:21:10

Ask Jake. I would suggest waiting for the system. But yeah you can PM him.

dbattle

13-06-2006 15:43:26

Any particular reason you would suggest waiting for the system?

Menotti

13-06-2006 16:54:34

[quotef4a5d0616a="doylnea"][quotef4a5d0616a="Menotti"][quotef4a5d0616a="Wolfeman"]31 pages of crying, I want to throw this thread away...[/quotef4a5d0616a]

Come on man, you're making like a lot of us didn't have legit gripes.[/quotef4a5d0616a]

You're still complaining? Be happy, move on.[/quotef4a5d0616a]

I was just expressing how I didn't like what Wolfeman had to say about the thread, that's all.

CougarKid

13-06-2006 20:02:31

[quotef963e2355e="dbattle"]Any particular reason you would suggest waiting for the system?[/quotef963e2355e]

You don't have to pay the $30 or so dollars for tax. And you can just get it straight from them without having to guy buy it somewhere.

Although you might get an older model like one person I know has. And it may take forever still to ship.

Whichever comes faster I think.

mykevermin

14-06-2006 07:07:23

I'd like to see a scan of that BBB resolution, Menotti. Or perhaps a brief synopsis of what was said in the fax.

doylnea

14-06-2006 17:06:31

What was the latest processing date to be shipped? I think I saw someone with a January 11 date?

mulder5000

14-06-2006 17:45:27

I have an 11/22 and nothing was shipped, so I hope it wasn't January 11...

Menotti

14-06-2006 17:48:18

[quote38b42e5212="mykevermin"]I'd like to see a scan of that BBB resolution, Menotti. Or perhaps a brief synopsis of what was said in the fax.[/quote38b42e5212]

This is a synopsis of what they sent to the BBB after my inquiry (dated [b38b42e5212]May 19, 2006[/b38b42e5212])

[quote38b42e5212]
Dear Mr. __________

As a follow up to your letter dated...concerning...I provide the following

__________ filed a complaint with your office regarding a promotional offering sponsored by Gratis Internet at one of its websites xbox360s.freepay.com. Mr. _________'s complaint states that Gratis Internet is taking an unusually long time in fulfilling his order. Mr. _______ is asking us to send him the Xbox that he earned in a timely manner.

We would like to sincerely apologize to Mr. ______ about the length of time he has had to wait to receive his Xbox. Our fulfillment vendors have, for some time, had serious problems with Xbox shortages. The unfortunate truth is that Microsoft has not been producing enough Xboxes to keep up with demand. Although we have been unsuccessful for the last few months we are actively trying to obtain more Xboxes and hope to have some in stock in the next couple weeks. We urge Mr. _______ to maintain a bit more patience and we will have his xbox shipped right away.[/quote38b42e5212]

It is important to note that my complaint did include asking why they have not shipped gift cards to fulfill their orders, although it was not addressed in their response.

Take it as you wish

Menotti

14-06-2006 17:48:53

[quotebb931bb694="CougarKid"][quotebb931bb694="dbattle"]Any particular reason you would suggest waiting for the system?[/quotebb931bb694]
Although you might get an older model like one person I know has. And it may take forever still to ship.
[/quotebb931bb694]

There is only 1 version of the 360.

CougarKid

14-06-2006 21:16:55

I ment like older model as in when it was made. I wouldn't want an old one. My friend got one made in October '05.

zr2152

14-06-2006 21:48:11

so how long do you think until i recieve mine? Ive had my for processing for about a week now and i just read on the 360 site that they just recieved 100 xbox360's....sho a couple of months possibly. It seems that some 360's or giftcards are being shipped out recently

Drakier

15-06-2006 14:42:23

You should get yours a bit after I get mine.. I've been in "Processing" since January.. whenever I get moved to STV, or Shipped, or actually get the xbox 360, then I'll let you know.. you can expect to get yours after then.

michae229

15-06-2006 15:32:55

[quote342aa26dc0="CougarKid"]I ment like older model as in when it was made. I wouldn't want an old one. My friend got one made in October '05.[/quote342aa26dc0]


it dont matter i got one today and it was made in october

Drakier

15-06-2006 15:56:12

michae229 when was your "order" date?

michae229

15-06-2006 16:30:15

september

Drakier

15-06-2006 19:48:42

thanks for the update..

helps us later dates know how fast they are sending them out =]

CougarKid

15-06-2006 22:40:16

[quote0ed7a483b8="michae229"][quote0ed7a483b8="CougarKid"]I ment like older model as in when it was made. I wouldn't want an old one. My friend got one made in October '05.[/quote0ed7a483b8]


it dont matter i got one today and it was made in october[/quote0ed7a483b8]

Well not really. Just saying that it's older. If I wanted an older one I would have wanted it back then.

iamzim

16-06-2006 05:24:17

just got my actual system yesterday!!! ) the mfg date on mine is 4-16-06

michae229

16-06-2006 07:09:15

i guess best buy sells old systems

mpbollywoodking

16-06-2006 07:58:07

how do u know if u got an older system which may have a glitch

Drakier

16-06-2006 09:05:47

w00t.. I just went sent to vendor.

my "order" date is showing up as 1/13/06 for anyone interested.

dublued

16-06-2006 10:31:14

my status was changed to "Sent to Vendor, Waiting on Product"

order date 11/22/05

dmorris68

16-06-2006 11:38:53

[quote8e0fe4ff06="mpbollywoodking"]how do u know if u got an older system which may have a glitch[/quote8e0fe4ff06]
By all accounts there is only one version of the 360, so any glitches would still be in the current version. In that regard, it really shouldn't matter when it was produced -- as long as it's new in the box, one made in October is exactly the same as one made yesterday.

iamzim

16-06-2006 12:05:26

the MAIN difference (at least form what I can tell is the DVD Drive. In the original, there were not pads on the top, which caused the disk to tilt when the system was moved (which you shouldn't do anyways!) The added pads in the new one should provent the "ring" around the disks. Other than that though, and possibly the change of the thermal conductor on the cpu, they're the same system! no real hardware changes that would affect anything, and they'll all still overheat if you keep them in a small unventilated area!

dbattle

16-06-2006 12:50:49

CougarKid - Your gift cards from Freepay, were they the SuperCertificates or Gift cards to a specific store. If it was the SC is there a place you can purchase the XBOX using the SC?

mpbollywoodking

16-06-2006 13:10:27

what does three rings of red light on the 360 console mean?

Justin82

16-06-2006 16:25:14

Are there alot of other people still processing, like me?

dagreatmighty1

16-06-2006 18:50:46

I went 'STV, Waiting on Product'
Yes, waiting is the right way to put it.

mpbollywoodking

16-06-2006 21:08:46

what light color is it that comes from the power supply?

jeff7602

16-06-2006 23:04:22

For those of us still processing....

a response to a support ticket that I recieved today

Thank you for conacting Freepay customer service. I apologize for the delays with these units. The supply lines have finally opened up and different resellers can get their hands on them. We are currently in talks with one of our suppliers in the hope of procuring a reliable supply of these units. We have been promised that these will be widely available. We are currently waiting for an order to ship to our warehouse. After it arrives, we will fulfill our next group of orders.

plusnightlife

17-06-2006 14:01:07

[quote15ce742c78="Menotti"][quote15ce742c78="CougarKid"][quote15ce742c78="dbattle"]Any particular reason you would suggest waiting for the system?[/quote15ce742c78]
Although you might get an older model like one person I know has. And it may take forever still to ship.
[/quote15ce742c78]

There is only 1 version of the 360.[/quote15ce742c78]

there is 1 version, yes, but the first couple batches to be released had major issues and thousands had to be replaced. the ones out now are working much better.

plusnightlife

17-06-2006 14:01:38

[quotec6c3854b80="mpbollywoodking"]what light color is it that comes from the power supply?[/quotec6c3854b80]

orange

plusnightlife

17-06-2006 14:02:08

[quote2a0ed7d336="mpbollywoodking"]what does three rings of red light on the 360 console mean?[/quote2a0ed7d336]

means you're fucked... call the xbox customer service and get it replaced

mpbollywoodking

17-06-2006 15:58:54

i took it back to the store and got it replace. The problem is that the system that i got previously was YESTERDAY. So it wasn't from the old batch. AND I DIDN'T PURCHASE THE INSURANCE. So, how can i be sure that the system don't get fucked after my 30 day return policy from Best Buy

Menotti

17-06-2006 16:11:33

[quote38de4d9fc0="mpbollywoodking"]i took it back to the store and got it replace. The problem is that the system that i got previously was YESTERDAY. So it wasn't from the old batch. AND I DIDN'T PURCHASE THE INSURANCE. So, how can i be sure that the system don't get fucked after my 30 day return policy from Best Buy[/quote38de4d9fc0]

It doesn't matter when you buy it. It may have been manufactured months ago.

schf0ol3d

17-06-2006 18:29:54

Just exactly how does a person contact freepay customer support?

Drakier

20-06-2006 09:09:59

In the "Help" section of the website... after you log into your account, click the Help button and look around until you find the option to Contact Customer Support... it's not easy to find however, and you'll probably have to click into a few sub-menus before you find it.

Drakier

21-06-2006 09:28:48

Wow... FreePay starts sending out product and this thread quiets right down.

Anyone heard anything lately on new orders going out?

I know there was a batch a couple of weeks ago, but those seem to have been received... What about the next batches?

dagreatmighty1

21-06-2006 12:08:58

[quotebbbe882b53="Drakier"]
Anyone heard anything lately on new orders going out?

I know there was a batch a couple of weeks ago, but those seem to have been received... What about the next batches?[/quotebbbe882b53]
Next couple of weeks. Hopefully.
[quotebbbe882b53]Thank you for contacting Freepay customer service. You will be receiving an X Box 360 in 2 - 3 weeks.[/quotebbbe882b53]

Drakier

21-06-2006 12:27:13

When was your order placed?

FreeBee

21-06-2006 13:30:51

Hey everyone, I have a dilemma. I contacted FreePay customer service asking about giftcards, because I don't really understand which I would get first. I placed an order on 5/23 so I'm probably far down on the list of people to get 360s. Anyways, I had this conversation with FreePay.
_____________________________________________________________
6/15/2006 124347 PM
email==_______@gmail.com_______@gmail.com=_______@gmail.com_______@gmail.com/email wrote

I also have read online that some customers were given an option to receive a $400 option at Giftcertificates.com. If that is an option for me, I would like to know how I can go about doing that. Thanks for your time.


6/16/2006 20951 PM
customer service wrote

Thank you for contacting Freepay Customer Service. You can receive a gift card instead of the xbox 360, but you still have to wait for the gift card as long as waiting for the xbox. Do you want to replace the xbox 360 with the gift card? Sincerely, The Freepay Customer Service Team


6/16/2006 62105 PM
email==_______@gmail.com_______@gmail.com=_______@gmail.com_______@gmail.com/email wrote

I don't understand why I would have to wait for the gift card if you have those in stock now. Is it like, I have to wait in line for my turn to receive either the Xbox or a gift card? Thanks.


6/21/2006 93957 AM
customer service wrote

Thank you for contacting Freepay customer service. The reason that you have to wait for the gift card is because we have to order them before sending them to our customers and it is this process that takes a long time to complete. Which option would you prefer to exercise?
____________________________________________________________


Which should I do??

jeff7602

21-06-2006 14:29:38

It depends...do you want the system? If so wait. If not get the gift card. It seems simple.

FreeBee

21-06-2006 14:31:31

But the way this person worded it, I would be waiting "just as long" for the xbox. And what type of gift card would it be? They only give one type away?

Drakier

21-06-2006 14:52:35

I don't think it's just 1 type of giftcard.. I believe there are a few options in the giftcard department.. the point you have to ask yourself is.. do you want the system, or do you want $400 worth of giftcards to a certain store?

If you WANT the xbox machine itself, then I'd suggest waiting and just get the machine itself.. if you'd rather have $400 worth of BestBuy giftcards or something similar, then get the giftcard.

the only reason I haven't gotten a giftcard is I want the machine and I don't want to pay the extra $50 for tax and other fees it would take to spend the $400 giftcard and get the machine... for me, it's much better to just wait and get the xbox for free since ultimately, that is what I want anyway.

FreeBee

21-06-2006 15:02:44

Yeah, I don't know....in CT I would pay 23 dollars in tax for a 399.99 item. I just wish I knew about how long i would wait...waiting is the hardest part...

Drakier

21-06-2006 15:27:46

If you have to wait the same time for either.. you need to not consider that in your decision on which to get... forget about the wait time and ask yourself... do you want the xbox unit, or do you want $400 in giftcards?

Forget about time.. forget about anything other than which you want. That should help you make your decision.

FreeBee

21-06-2006 15:31:49

But the 400 could buy me the Xbox, right? so it does come down to time...

Drakier

21-06-2006 15:45:48

you don't get it...

the $400 is going to take just as long to get as the XBox will..

not to meantion, it would cost you an extra $30 or so to purchase the XBox from a store if you used the giftcard to buy the xbox.

so if you want the machine, why would you even consider the giftcard?

FreeBee

21-06-2006 15:52:09

We can't be sure which will take as long because freepay hasn't told me anything about time frames.

dmorris68

21-06-2006 15:54:38

Depending on the giftcard/merchant used, you could order the 360 online and not pay tax.

Freepay usually pays with SuperCertificates. You go to the SC website and redeem that for giftcards to your favorite store.

But the discussion is pretty much moot anyway -- Freepay doesn't give you a choice between GC and Xbox360. That was a limited time deal AFAIK and was offered to a select group of people. From what I understand you can no longer request a GC in lieu, and even if you did, what Drakier is saying holds true -- they are taking just as long to ship the giftcards as they are the 360's themselves. In fact, longer in some cases, because they just shipped a batch of 360's while some folks are/were still waiting on GC's.

dagreatmighty1

21-06-2006 20:13:12

[quote692e70e7b5="Drakier"]When was your order placed?[/quote692e70e7b5]
On 1/13. That's what surprised me the most. I don't think it's a glitch because they replied with that response. I haven't seen many people of the same time frame who have the 'STV, waiting on product' status.

Well, if it holds up, I don't mind 8)

Drakier

21-06-2006 20:34:52

I am also a 1/13 and STV (as can be seen in my signature)

2-3 weeks huh? sounds good... but I could also be patient waiting if it took longer because of hold-ups.

zr2152

21-06-2006 20:59:50

okay so i havent even had my form approved yet. So when do you all think that i will be getting my 360? September?

FreeBee

22-06-2006 19:43:13

Probably...I'm just gonna go ahead and tell FreePay I'll wait for the 360. Just in case. No harm in going back to what I was doing...waiting forever.

Peksim

26-06-2006 06:32:44

I placed my order in early June last year, I then moved in February and the only way to change the shipping information was to cancel the order and reorder with the new address.... oh well.

FreeBee

27-06-2006 12:53:08

Customer Service just sent me a message saying they are working to "get your order shipped with the next batch of orders" I hope thats good...probably 2 months lol.

CoMpFrEaK

27-06-2006 15:56:08

[quote18c8412f9d="FreeBee"]Customer Service just sent me a message saying they are working to "get your order shipped with the next batch of orders" I hope thats good...probably 2 years lol.[/quote18c8412f9d]

fixed

FreeBee

27-06-2006 16:24:16

Fixed? Whats that mean? Its a message they send to everyone?

dmorris68

27-06-2006 16:54:06

[quote9b2bbd35fa="FreeBee"]Fixed? Whats that mean? Its a message they send to everyone?[/quote9b2bbd35fa]
Read his quote of your quote again. ;)

FreeBee

27-06-2006 19:59:13

Aha. lol. Good one there. I was wondering what was fixed. lol. And I don't think itll be that long. probably one year.

motz

03-07-2006 17:48:18

My friend is looking to complete freepay's 360 site. I was wondering how long the current wait is to get them is it still months???

thanks guys.

Drakier

04-07-2006 10:26:26

If you can get one from FreePay (meaning you can complete the offers, etc) then it takes at least a few months to get the XBox. My order was placed in January (I think) and I'm currently STV but waiting.

Don't forget that FreePay has the new 90 day completion thing where you have to get all your referrals and complete your offer within 90 days or you're SOL.

in my personal opinion, I'd rather use a company that is faster, more flexible, and seems a little better like TraInn. TraInn has no 90 day completion BS and they seem to be shipping products VERY quickly (many if not all of the people who ordered XBox 360's from TraInn have them now).

If you're looking to start fresh and get an XBox 360, I'd personally stay away from FreePay and go to TraInn. That's just my personal opinion however. Feel free to ignore it! ligrinsli

Drakier

06-07-2006 09:57:41

My XBox 360 just went to Shipped status..

We'll see how long it takes to receive it.

dagreatmighty1

06-07-2006 14:37:24

^^Did you get a tracking num.?

Drakier

06-07-2006 14:57:19

Yes... yes I did..

and my package is set to arrive tomorrow it seems.

FreeBee

07-07-2006 06:10:46

And how long have you been approved?

Drakier

07-07-2006 08:11:56

My "Order" date was 1/13/2006

Drakier

07-07-2006 09:36:49

Delivery confirmed about 10 minutes ago...

and there was an extra present in the box... ligrinsli

dublued

07-07-2006 12:27:19

got mine today. processing since november 2005

FreeBee

07-07-2006 18:23:47

What was the extra present?

Drakier

07-07-2006 19:14:18

a small digital clock.

it's kinda cool, but nothing really special... it's really hard to read the numbers unless you have it up against a white background, or backlit.

Fugger

10-07-2006 18:59:00

[quoted15db44682="Drakier"]My "Order" date was 1/13/2006[/quoted15db44682]

I'm sitting on a 1/20/2006 order date... ooooo it's gotta be getting close.

FreeBee

12-07-2006 06:25:59

My order date is 5/23/2006....I don't think I'll get it until...October?

Drakier

12-07-2006 07:51:16

FreeBee Thing are moving much quicker now that FreePay has found a supplier.

The main reason for the previous HUGE delay was due to FreePay not having ANY XBoxes to send out. Since they've found suppliers, they should be sending out a lot more quickly. Although your order date is still pretty recent, I don't picture it taking more than a couple months hopefully... not the YEAR that many of the other users waited.

Ethan

12-07-2006 09:25:00

So originally my finishing date was November 2005 but now it's been changed to 1/15/06 which one will it be... I was sad to not be in the current batch. It's supposed to be processing right? Surely next batch...

Drakier

12-07-2006 14:17:33

Ethan mine was the same way actually.. I finished my offers and completed my stuff for order in November.. then the whole offer debacle happened and my order was changed to January. Hopefully you should be in the next batch.

FreeBee

13-07-2006 06:31:45

[quotee76510c284="Drakier"]FreeBee Thing are moving much quicker now that FreePay has found a supplier.

The main reason for the previous HUGE delay was due to FreePay not having ANY XBoxes to send out. Since they've found suppliers, they should be sending out a lot more quickly. Although your order date is still pretty recent, I don't picture it taking more than a couple months hopefully... not the YEAR that many of the other users waited.[/quotee76510c284]

So what's your estimation of my recieving the 360?

Drakier

13-07-2006 09:09:48

I have no official, or otherwise, connection with FreePay so I can only speculate.

However, with an order date within the last month or so, I'd imagine it'd be about 8-12 weeks... They're still working through the massive amounts of backorders. Hopefully my estimate is off and you get it within 6-8, but who knows.

mo

19-07-2006 04:25:33

Dear Jake,

Can you tell us when people in the UK will receive their XBOXs. I have now been waiting 2 month since i went to 'processing'

Any indication of a timesclale would be much appreciated. The value of an XBOX has now dropped in the UK - i can get one for £257 now!

please respond!

Mo

Wolfeman

19-07-2006 09:51:12

[quote10340a2dbb="mo"]Dear Jake,

Can you tell us when people in the UK will receive their XBOXs. I have now been waiting 2 month since i went to 'processing'

Any indication of a timesclale would be much appreciated. The value of an XBOX has now dropped in the UK - i can get one for £257 now!

please respond!

Mo[/quote10340a2dbb]
Jake is gone, he isn't coming back...

Drakier

19-07-2006 11:49:41

[quoteb0715472ee="Wolfeman"]Jake is gone, he isn't coming back...[/quoteb0715472ee]

Are you serious? When did this happen, and why?

Wolfeman

19-07-2006 11:55:57

[quotefccb12b779="Drakier"][quotefccb12b779="Wolfeman"]Jake is gone, he isn't coming back...[/quotefccb12b779]

Are you serious? When did this happen, and why?[/quotefccb12b779]
A while ago and because no one was ever happy and this wasn't supposed to be his only job function. They also wanted to centralize support...

mo

20-07-2006 08:53:30

dang,
does anyone know how to contact him then?

Drakier

20-07-2006 09:24:26

I don't think you contact "Him" anymore... I think you just have to submit Customer Service requests and hope it all works out for the best for you.

lishrugli

I'm just as bummed as you are about it. He was able to get things done where it seems like the rest of Customer Service just wants to push you through and give you canned responses to everything. Jake was able to actually fix problems and investigate issues personally where Customer Service seems robotic.

plusnightlife

25-07-2006 13:57:39

i'm so fed up with freepay... they don't even read your questions...

jeff7602

27-07-2006 08:28:21

Have they sent out any since that original 100?

Peksim

27-07-2006 16:34:03

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/a90470d17d85540a54a5f54106d854d2.gif[" alt=""/img11e237906b]

Order # 50#### xbox360s.freepay.com [b11e237906b]2/25/2006[/b11e237906b] 95800 AM Sent to Vendor, Waiting on Product
Order # 48#### xbox360s.freepay.com[size=1511e237906b][u11e237906b] [b11e237906b]6/21/2005 [/b11e237906b][/u11e237906b][/size11e237906b]94800 PM Canceled... (bought a house faster than I got an xbox...)

Fugger

27-07-2006 17:53:53

Ordered 1/20/2006 64100 PM
Processing 4/26/2006 11OR38AM
STV 7/27/2006 104900 AM

I too also bought a house faster than I got an xbox, but at least I just bought a new TV to hook it up to D

doylnea

28-07-2006 06:57:11

[quotebd6ccc61e2="Fugger"]Ordered 1/20/2006 64100 PM
Processing 4/26/2006 11OR38AM
STV 7/27/2006 104900 AM

I too also bought a house faster than I got an xbox, but at least I just bought a new TV to hook it up to D[/quotebd6ccc61e2]

Congrats on the STV!

I've been in processing since 5/11, so I anxiously checked my account for STV - no dice...bummer.

jeff7602

28-07-2006 09:47:10

Fuggar, how are your order date and processing date different? Mine went to processing immediately when I ordered.

plusnightlife

28-07-2006 13:49:52

finally approved... now processing

Fugger

28-07-2006 16:39:44

[quote55a0d2555c="jeff7602"]Fuggar, how are your order date and processing date different? Mine went to processing immediately when I ordered.[/quote55a0d2555c]

My account took about 3 hours to approve after I submitted... past that point, everything is very hazy.

Peksim

29-07-2006 13:53:48

[quoted713cd7d59="Peksim"]http//forum.freeipodguide.com/smilies_mod/upload/a90470d17d85540a54a5f54106d854d2.gif[" alt=""/imgd713cd7d59]

Order # 50#### xbox360s.freepay.com [bd713cd7d59]2/25/2006[/bd713cd7d59] 95800 AM Sent to Vendor, Waiting on Product
Order # 48#### xbox360s.freepay.com[size=15d713cd7d59][ud713cd7d59] [bd713cd7d59]6/21/2005 [/bd713cd7d59][/ud713cd7d59][/sized713cd7d59]94800 PM Canceled... (bought a house faster than I got an xbox...)[/quoted713cd7d59]

I just noticed that it did not show that I ordered it in feb. 2005...

Congrats on the house... I am jealous of the TV!! I am not sure how it will look on my 10 year old 27".

Fugger

31-07-2006 12:44:47

7/31/2006 22200 PM - Shipped

Gigante

31-07-2006 12:57:39

How did you get ahead of everyone Fugger?

Fugger

31-07-2006 13:15:37

I don't really know or think that I am... I'm just happy, that's all.

doylnea

31-07-2006 13:42:06

[quotec43a9b49bd="Gigante"]How did you get ahead of everyone Fugger?[/quotec43a9b49bd]

A4F folks are reporting that processing dates as late as 5/16 are STV/Shipped.

mpbollywoodking

31-07-2006 14:19:58

i stopped visiting this thread ever since i got my 360, i figure i drop by, whats up everybody

FreeBee

02-08-2006 07:54:59

My processing date is 5/23/06....so I should be STV soon you think?

mpbollywoodking

02-08-2006 13:02:20

i don't think so dude

CollidgeGraduit

03-08-2006 04:42:28

Surprised Fugger hasn't posted this yet, but he got his 360 yesterday

JerriBlank

03-08-2006 05:38:59

I got mine on Monday or Tuesday. )



jb

Fugger

03-08-2006 09:05:27

[quote4aaa4ceb41="CollidgeGraduit"]Surprised Fugger hasn't posted this yet, but he got his 360 yesterday[/quote4aaa4ceb41]

Indeed I have. All hooked up and sexified on my new Sorny HDTV.

Peksim

03-08-2006 17:14:19

I just got it!!!!

too

doylnea

03-08-2006 21:03:20

[quoteffca6059a1="Peksim"]I just got it!!!!

too[/quoteffca6059a1]

What are everyone's processing dates?

Justin82

24-08-2006 14:46:31

mine is 8/08/06

I'm doubtful I'll get mine before christmas.

plusnightlife

08-09-2006 16:29:39

just received supercertificate... 09/08

bizzle

18-09-2006 06:05:15

Holy shit their shipping mine 10/6

Justin82

18-09-2006 06:16:19

My account was updated late last week STV, Waiting On Product

Wahoo!!!

Hopefully it ships out this week, we'll see. P

doylnea

18-09-2006 14:11:13

[quote592fd6883c="doylnea"][quote592fd6883c="Peksim"]I just got it!!!!

too[/quote592fd6883c]

What are everyone's processing dates?[/quote592fd6883c]

5/11 STV, waiting on product...I'll believe it when it shows up.

doylnea

22-09-2006 09:37:25

Holy F-ing Balls - SHIPPED. UPS tracking Number and everything...

Status In Transit - On Time
Scheduled Delivery 09/26/2006

It's either sad, or pathetic, or both, that when I saw the package was coming from TN, I knew it was from PC Mall...

Justin82

22-09-2006 09:46:47

Sweet! I went Shipped today too. Though UPS has yet to update my information so I can't track it yet... hopefully soon though!

If it's coming from Tennessee then it should be here monday I would think.

okjntcw

23-09-2006 08:24:34

yea i got shipped today as well )
i went processing 8/2/2006 63700 PM

FreeBee

26-09-2006 06:56:07

I randomly checked my 360, I kind of forgot about it lol. But anyways, my status now has an estimated ship date of 10/21/2006. Thats better than processing forever. haha. Freepay has the new management so thats probably why it was updated.

Justin82

27-09-2006 06:40:42

Received my xbox yesterday and hooked it up late last night.

Freepay seems to have their act together again, now if they'll only do away with that 90 day limit I'll start another account.

FreeBee

28-09-2006 11:18:33

AHHH, now my account today says "Sent to Vendor, Waiting on Product" !!!! I like the estimated arrival date better than waiting on product. So much for FreePay getting their act together. I mean, it's better, but better does not mean good.

doylnea

28-09-2006 12:27:30

[quotec7af4e6691="doylnea"]Holy F-ing Balls - SHIPPED. UPS tracking Number and everything...

Status In Transit - On Time
Scheduled Delivery 09/26/2006

It's either sad, or pathetic, or both, that when I saw the package was coming from TN, I knew it was from PC Mall...[/quotec7af4e6691]

And delivered...9/26/06, just like they said. Thanks Freepay.

jn11789

03-10-2006 17:32:13

So i finally got my xbox 360 today, october 3rd. I completed the requirements back in may and they received my order form in the middle of may. I was finally approved in august after i complained to the BBB. [/sizea26b4c6a04]

bizzle

07-10-2006 22:24:28

STV homies...

FreeBee

19-10-2006 10:59:49

Woo! Finally shipped! It'll be here Monday, Oct. 23!! Shipping from TN to CT. UPS Tracking number, yay. It's about tiiiiime.

bizzle

19-10-2006 18:06:44

Whats going on? My processing date and estimated date (Oct 6) are before you yet... Im still processing?

Com'on FreePay... keep on pushing... give birth to my Free 360

TonyGarcia

01-11-2006 19:07:08

freepay has shipped my item... i got a tracking number today... this is my last freebie ... i'm retiring from this shit... it's to stressful...

In 2 years.. I got a

a. ipod
b. ipod photo
c. ipod shuffle
d. xbox
e. ipod nano
f. xbox 360

I'll probably never post here again...

later guys

burritopunk

02-11-2006 12:06:07

Just got my xbox after waiting since march. Note that it shipped three weeks earlier than my estimated ship date of 11/21/06.

bizzle

06-11-2006 23:37:43

SHIPPED

I want to retire but it's too addictive... I <3 FREEPAY!

nadcraker

15-11-2006 09:35:22

I got my 360 last week, but it's showing signs of problems (Can't read my disc). How do I get warranty work done on it?

sonsofwashington

12-01-2007 14:00:40

I just signed up for free pay. Basically what I am hearing is that Freepay does not have the XBox 360 because they cannot order it.

Man, I am getting frustrated with this.

sonsofwashington

12-01-2007 14:03:12

[quotea2c169c14f="TonyGarcia"]freepay has shipped my item... i got a tracking number today... this is my last freebie ... i'm retiring from this shit... it's to stressful...

In 2 years.. I got a

a. iPod
b. iPod photo
c. iPod shuffle
d. xbox
e. iPod nano
f. xbox 360

I'll probably never post here again...

later guys[/quotea2c169c14f]

I have been in this for a week and I think I am pulling out. F IT! I can make the $400 alot quicker.

manOFice

21-02-2008 07:56:59

anyone have experience with freepay lately? I've been reading their pretty decent lately

sugarfly

28-03-2009 07:40:18

I've actually been waiting for shipment of my Wii and Wii Fit, estimated ship date of December 24, 2008. So I actually placed my order in November.
I received this message
Team · 02/ 3/2009, 0712 PM

Thank you for contacting us,



Our fulfillment team has been attempting to place this order, but is awaiting item availability. If you wish, we can have them immediately process this order for the full item value with Best Buy gift cards so that you may try to obtain the item at a local store.

Please let us know if this would be an option of interest to you.



Thanks,

Support


I replied several times after, and still have not heard anything back. They sent that message Feb. 3rd.