Dorm Versus Fraternity: JAKE???

A friend of mine lives in a fraternity and plans on using his roommates as referrals for his site. Now, I know you're only allowed one account per shipping address...but I've also read that if you live in a dorm, it is okay to refer people to your account.

If his refs were to use his link and sign up, could they all just use their home addresses and get around that??

I do understand it's also tracked with IP, but how does that differ from a fraternity house and a dormitory?

[quote1898f00d83="hues24"]A friend of mine lives in a fraternity and plans on using his roommates as referrals for his site. Now, I know you're only allowed one account per shipping address...but I've also read that if you live in a dorm, it is okay to refer people to your account.

If his refs were to use his link and sign up, could they all just use their home addresses and get around that??

I do understand it's also tracked with IP, but how does that differ from a fraternity house and a dormitory?[/quote1898f00d83]
I don't know about the IPs and how they differ. Depends on how the fraternity gets their internet connection. I've checked all of the IPs in dorms and from dorm to dorm the IPs are just about identical so definitely stay away from that.

Not sure if dorms really matter too much...I got approved today on Premi IPods and I live in a dorm. I still would like more clarification on the frat situation though...

[quote1c21fa6a7c="hues24"]Not sure if dorms really matter too much...I got approved today on Premi IPods and I live in a dorm. I still would like more clarification on the frat situation though...[/quote1c21fa6a7c]
I meant referring other people that are in your dorm. I've ordered all of my items and I've done it all from my dorm too.

That's what I meant too. I referred a couple people that live in the dorm with me. I contacted Freepay back when I started & they said it was okay, as long as they are in a different room than me.

Sorry for the confusion.

[quote6d43131b2a="hues24"]That's what I meant too. I referred a couple people that live in the dorm with me. I contacted Freepay back when I started & they said it was okay, as long as they are in a different room than me.

Sorry for the confusion.[/quote6d43131b2a]
They said that?....... ? I don't see how that'd work when their IP is only a few numbers apart.

It says nothing about IP addresses in FreePay's terms of service.

[quoteee1a902245="dshap"]It says nothing about IP addresses in FreePay's terms of service.[/quoteee1a902245]But that's a check they have to verify unique users.

I know that i haven't had a problem yet with referring people in my dorm. And I've referred 5-6 people from my floor. But the kid next door to me referred 3 guys from our dorm and they all went red. He's still checking to see what the problem was, but I bet it has something to do with similar IP's.

[quotee47787ab70="crescendo"]I know that i haven't had a problem yet with referring people in my dorm. And I've referred 5-6 people from my floor. But the kid next door to me referred 3 guys from our dorm and they all went red. He's still checking to see what the problem was, but I bet it has something to do with similar IP's.[/quotee47787ab70]

do you go to messiah college?

heh, a little off topic, but yes i do.

[quote1de424022d="crescendo"]I know that i haven't had a problem yet with referring people in my dorm. And I've referred 5-6 people from my floor. But the kid next door to me referred 3 guys from our dorm and they all went red. He's still checking to see what the problem was, but I bet it has something to do with similar IP's.[/quote1de424022d]That's no suprise. Were they the same people you referred?

No, they weren't the same people I referred. But they could have possibly been his roomates. In which case -- duh -- they're red for a reason.

Jake, I'd appreciate if you could clarify this situation.

Thanks

well IP may be one thing (although they should be unique, just same ranges)

but dorm addresses are different. The first address line will be the same (the address of the building) but the 2nd address line will be the room number which is unique. Just like an apartment address. I'd assume that would be legit as it would seem strange to d/q all the people in those living arrangements

[quote5b607f580d="nytrate"]well IP may be one thing (although they should be unique, just same ranges)

but dorm addresses are different. The first address line will be the same (the address of the building) but the 2nd address line will be the room number which is unique. Just like an apartment address. I'd assume that would be legit as it would seem strange to d/q all the people in those living arrangements[/quote5b607f580d]

It's unpossible to state that. It varies extremely from university to university.

I was at a smaller private school for 2 years. Every student had their own hostname. $username.student.$university.edu, anytime you plugged in to campus ANYWHERE, you had an IP that was based on the building.

The college I'm at now gives you a private IP address for the dorms, so everything is routed. However, if you VPN in, you are given a unique IP.

You can't say one way or the other if this dorm or frat does things one way or another. Hell here, it'll probably vary from frat to frat. The on campus ones, iirc, have internet provided by the school; while the off campus ones usually have leased lines.

Easiest way to tell is if your IP on your computer is
10.0.0.0 - 10.255.255.255
172.16.0.0 - 172.31.255.255
192.168.0.0 - 192.168.255.255

That means that you're private. If your IP that your computer has matches what http//www.whatismyip.com[]http//www.whatismyip.com tells you, then you're probably not routed.

Without knowing what school you go to, or how your IT department decided to go, you can't answer this question.

[quotecb3bc3c2da="nytrate"]well IP may be one thing (although they should be unique, just same ranges)

but dorm addresses are different. The first address line will be the same (the address of the building) but the 2nd address line will be the room number which is unique. Just like an apartment address. I'd assume that would be legit as it would seem strange to d/q all the people in those living arrangements[/quotecb3bc3c2da]

Again. This is also unpossible to say. I went to a small college. We had one central bank of mailboxes.

CM (campus mail) #####
Address
City, State ZIP

larger universities do things different.

We don't just go by IP alone when evaluating accounts. If your IP is the same as someone else's, that doesn't mean you are cheating. There would have to be other indicators that arouse our suspicion.

Make sure that your mailing addresses differ and make sure that your accounts are truly yours.

[quote0ad46a993a="Jake"]We don't just go by IP alone when evaluating accounts. If your IP is the same as someone else's, that doesn't mean you are cheating. There would have to be other indicators that arouse our suspicion.

Make sure that your mailing addresses differ and make sure that your accounts are truly yours.[/quote0ad46a993a]
Ok so I have some friends on my floor, that have mailing addressing that are nothing alike (different states), but their IPs are just about 1 or 2 numbers off (ie 277.158.1.1 and 277.158.1.2) and clearly different names and such. That wouldn't be suspicious/disqualified?

[quoted12dc84ae6="johnjimjones"][quoted12dc84ae6="Jake"]We don't just go by IP alone when evaluating accounts. If your IP is the same as someone else's, that doesn't mean you are cheating. There would have to be other indicators that arouse our suspicion.

Make sure that your mailing addresses differ and make sure that your accounts are truly yours.[/quoted12dc84ae6]
Ok so I have some friends on my floor, that have mailing addressing that are nothing alike (different states), but their IPs are just about 1 or 2 numbers off (ie 277.158.1.1 and 277.158.1.2) and clearly different names and such. That wouldn't be suspicious/disqualified?[/quoted12dc84ae6]

what did he just say? roll
even if you used the [id12dc84ae6]same[/id12dc84ae6] IP it wouldn't matter
IP's get recycled all the time
especially on dial up
they could have 15 users who do not even know each other sign up from the same IP

At my school, each ethernet port has its own designated IP from the school, never changes, so unless the guy that lived in my dorm last year signed up for anything I shouldn't have a problem ). Even so, I do most of the newer sites here.