Offercentric now offering $475 instead for Xbox 360?

austin01

26-01-2006 22:34:10

Offercentric now offering $475 instead for xbox 360. Lets see what the #1 Freepay will do to match this.

OfferCentric @ Jan 26 2006, 0739 PM)
Dear Xbox360s4Free.com member,

Due to extremely limited supply of Xbox 360s, we would like to offer you
the choice of continuing to remain on the back order list or receive a
cash
payment and attempt to purchase your own at a local retailer or use as you
wish. The cash payout consists of $400 to cover the cost of an Xbox 360
Premium console plus $20 to help cover the cost of sales tax.

As an added gift for your patience in this matter, we will raise the cash
payment by an additional $55, enough for a 12 month Xbox Live Gold
subscription or a game.

If you'd like to receive the $475 cash gift via PayPal, please email us at
email==support@offercentric.comsupport@offercentric.com=support@offercentric.comsupport@offercentric.com/email and we will make the change to your account.

Should you decide to remain on the back order list, we will continue to do
our best to procure Xbox 360s as soon as possible. Current estimates
indicate that it will be March before they are available in any quantity.

We apologize for the wait period and appreciate your patience.

Sincerely,

Steven Holmes
OfferCentric LLC

Flip21

26-01-2006 23:07:02

I hope FreePay does this.

CougarKid

26-01-2006 23:59:30

Very nice. But this topic is going to end as all others have.

Alien Zulu

27-01-2006 06:06:19

fuck freepay
i shoulda done that one

drunkmonkey

27-01-2006 07:38:31

Freepay's made it pretty apparent that they're not making any cash offers. We're just going to have to wait until someone offers them 1000 360's, or whatever they're waiting for.

I'll definitely go elsewhere for PS3s, and any other new systems that come out.

crazyates

27-01-2006 08:03:34

[quote0a607196d1="drunkmonkey"]Freepay's made it pretty apparent that they're not making any cash offers. We're just going to have to wait until someone offers them 1000 360's, or whatever they're waiting for.

[b0a607196d1]I'll definitely go elsewhere for PS3s, and any other new systems that come out[/b0a607196d1].[/quote0a607196d1]

as i'm sure a lot of other people will

Cow-Tipper

27-01-2006 10:32:14

if freepay offers this, i hope it will be a giftcard not paypal

kevxross

27-01-2006 10:44:20

Give it up. They're not going to resort to petty "freebie site wars" with TRAINN and OC, because [i3383ee4446]they don't have to[/i3383ee4446]. FFS, just come to the realization that you'll get your 360 when you get it (probably late Feb, early March), and get over it. I'm not saying who's right or who's wrong, I'm not gonna argue about anything, I'm just saying [b3383ee4446]look at the [u3383ee4446]facts[/u3383ee4446] and accept it, because that's all you [u3383ee4446]can[/u3383ee4446] do![/b3383ee4446]

drunkmonkey

27-01-2006 10:51:26

[quotea728ac033a="kevxross"]Give it up. They're not going to resort to petty "freebie site wars" with TRAINN and OC, because [ia728ac033a]they don't have to[/ia728ac033a]. FFS, just come to the realization that you'll get your 360 when you get it (probably late Feb, early March), and get over it. I'm not saying who's right or who's wrong, I'm not gonna argue about anything, I'm just saying [ba728ac033a]look at the [ua728ac033a]facts[/ua728ac033a] and accept it, because that's all you [ua728ac033a]can[/ua728ac033a] do![/ba728ac033a][/quotea728ac033a]

[ba728ac033a]OR...[/ba728ac033a]we can continue to show our discontent with the way the situation is being handled, and that we're pleased with the way Trainn and OC are doing things. Maybe they'll start to realize, "Hey, if we don't get on top of this, we could lose customers to these other sites." It's the way the free market works.

ilanbg

27-01-2006 11:05:07

drunkmonkey, if you don't like Communist America, gtfu.
wink

I really hope freepay does this as well. It's not likely though.

joshe181

27-01-2006 11:11:37

Yah, I highly doubt Freepay is going to alter their plan. They are #1 and know they have the upper hand. It is pretty brave what OC is doing though, offering $475 cash. It's a good try, but its not going to make Freepay change.

austin01

27-01-2006 12:15:21

[quote5c5faca774="joshe181"]Yah, I highly doubt Freepay is going to alter their plan. They are #1 and know they have the upper hand. It is pretty brave what OC is doing though, offering $475 cash. It's a good try, but its not going to make Freepay change.[/quote5c5faca774]

Its pretty sad if they don't. They should AT LEAST match this.

drunkmonkey

27-01-2006 12:21:41

[quoted669995b29="austin01"][quoted669995b29="joshe181"]Yah, I highly doubt Freepay is going to alter their plan. They are #1 and know they have the upper hand. It is pretty brave what OC is doing though, offering $475 cash. It's a good try, but its not going to make Freepay change.[/quoted669995b29]

Its pretty sad if they don't. They should AT LEAST match this.[/quoted669995b29]

Exactly. Taking the attitude of "we are #1 and know we have the upper hand" is the equivalent of sending a big F U to their customers. And while they are #1, I wouldn't say they're set in that position. For a company that's spread solely by word of mouth in a business many are already skeptical about, bad press could be fatal.

Flip21

27-01-2006 12:55:22

[quotefc123ca38d="kevxross"]Give it up. They're not going to resort to petty "freebie site wars" with TRAINN and OC, because [ifc123ca38d]they don't have to[/ifc123ca38d]. FFS, just come to the realization that you'll get your 360 when you get it (probably late Feb, early March), and get over it. I'm not saying who's right or who's wrong, I'm not gonna argue about anything, I'm just saying [bfc123ca38d]look at the [ufc123ca38d]facts[/ufc123ca38d] and accept it, because that's all you [ufc123ca38d]can[/ufc123ca38d] do![/bfc123ca38d][/quotefc123ca38d]

ROFL This is one of the most fallacious things I've ever read. You think that people who are dissatisfied with the level of service at one company will simply grin and bear it rather than seeking an alternative? Think again.

joshe181

27-01-2006 14:03:37

[quote18eb989224="drunkmonkey"][quote18eb989224="austin01"][quote18eb989224="joshe181"]Yah, I highly doubt Freepay is going to alter their plan. They are #1 and know they have the upper hand. It is pretty brave what OC is doing though, offering $475 cash. It's a good try, but its not going to make Freepay change.[/quote18eb989224]

Its pretty sad if they don't. They should AT LEAST match this.[/quote18eb989224]

Exactly. Taking the attitude of "we are #1 and know we have the upper hand" is the equivalent of sending a big F U to their customers. And while they are #1, I wouldn't say they're set in that position. For a company that's spread solely by word of mouth in a business many are already skeptical about, bad press could be fatal.[/quote18eb989224]

In no way am I saying their strategy is right or wrong, I am just saying that these smaller companies offering a cash alternative is not going to scare Freepay whatsoever. If you want $475 instead of an Xbox 360, then go through the process over at OC. Don't expect Freepay to offer you cash.

Iloveipods2

27-01-2006 18:47:55

[quoteec09aa2aac]As an added gift for your patience in this matter, we will raise the cash
payment by an additional $55, enough for a 12 month Xbox Live Gold
subscription or a game. [/quoteec09aa2aac]

yeah and who ever doubted OC should be shot, unless you've been directly been put on hold and never had that status revoked, than I do sympathize. but come'on Jake, OC is beating your butt on this one with that statement.

Rodney

27-01-2006 19:54:16

[quotece1d1206ed]but come'on Jake, OC is beating your butt on this one with that statement[/quotece1d1206ed]

With all of Jake's involvement in this forum, directly helping users out, answering questions, becoming a member of the community and being a "real" person (not just a corporate voice), I'd hardly say that OC is beating his but with one statement.

I hope that it means that OC is working to turn around some of its negative image, but that doesn't mean we should go taking shots at Jake. That's not cool at all.

Iloveipods2

27-01-2006 21:50:26

[quote27fe2c93cb="Rodney"][quote27fe2c93cb]but come'on Jake, OC is beating your butt on this one with that statement[/quote27fe2c93cb]

With all of Jake's involvement in this forum, directly helping users out, answering questions, becoming a member of the community and being a "real" person (not just a corporate voice), I'd hardly say that OC is beating his but with one statement.

I hope that it means that OC is working to turn around some of its negative image, but that doesn't mean we should go taking shots at Jake. That's not cool at all.[/quote27fe2c93cb]

agreed wink

kevxross

28-01-2006 07:15:14

[quotec851af220e="Flip21"][quotec851af220e="kevxross"]Give it up. They're not going to resort to petty "freebie site wars" with TRAINN and OC, because [ic851af220e]they don't have to[/ic851af220e]. FFS, just come to the realization that you'll get your 360 when you get it (probably late Feb, early March), and get over it. I'm not saying who's right or who's wrong, I'm not gonna argue about anything, I'm just saying [bc851af220e]look at the [uc851af220e]facts[/uc851af220e] and accept it, because that's all you [uc851af220e]can[/uc851af220e] do![/bc851af220e][/quotec851af220e]

ROFL This is one of the most fallacious things I've ever read. You think that people who are dissatisfied with the level of service at one company will simply grin and bear it rather than seeking an alternative? Think again.[/quotec851af220e]

I'm not talking to people seeking an alternative. I'm talking about everyone begging FreePay to send out checks, which isn't gonna happen. If you want to seek out alternatives that's great, go for it!

CollidgeGraduit

28-01-2006 07:25:39

[quote6d070ca42b="kevxross"][quote6d070ca42b="Flip21"][quote6d070ca42b="kevxross"]Give it up. They're not going to resort to petty "freebie site wars" with TRAINN and OC, because [i6d070ca42b]they don't have to[/i6d070ca42b]. FFS, just come to the realization that you'll get your 360 when you get it (probably late Feb, early March), and get over it. I'm not saying who's right or who's wrong, I'm not gonna argue about anything, I'm just saying [b6d070ca42b]look at the [u6d070ca42b]facts[/u6d070ca42b] and accept it, because that's all you [u6d070ca42b]can[/u6d070ca42b] do![/b6d070ca42b][/quote6d070ca42b]

ROFL This is one of the most fallacious things I've ever read. You think that people who are dissatisfied with the level of service at one company will simply grin and bear it rather than seeking an alternative? Think again.[/quote6d070ca42b]

I'm not talking to people seeking an alternative. I'm talking about everyone begging FreePay to send out checks, which isn't gonna happen. If you want to seek out alternatives that's great, go for it![/quote6d070ca42b]

EXACTLY. Gratis/Freepay survived a shortage of iPods (including a 2-3 month backorder) and PSPs in the past. This isn't going to kill them. People will still do their sites.

awake33

28-01-2006 07:47:52

[quote01bf860a1f]In no way am I saying their strategy is right or wrong, I am just saying that these smaller companies offering a cash alternative is not going to scare Freepay whatsoever. If you want $475 instead of an Xbox 360, then go through the process over at OC. Don't expect Freepay to offer you cash."[/quote01bf860a1f]

Who cares if it scares Freepay. You looking at this with the wrong perspective.

People can and will, to whatever percentage, not bother with them again.

I definately won't. Again, this isn't meant to 'scare' Freepay or threaten them into submission in some way. It is just a choice.

Grow a brain.

bruman

28-01-2006 07:54:35

i am 1-ref away from ordering on xbox3604free

if i choose the xbox 360 premium version will i be offered $475?

because before i had it on $350, but i havent ordered yet

Wolfeman

28-01-2006 11:58:19

Does this really make anyone want to do an OC site again? I know it doesn't make up for the fact that its nearly impossible to finish their sites because OOD and they don't credit...

CougarKid

28-01-2006 12:44:52

[quotee5fc51986b="Wolfeman"]Does this really make anyone want to do an OC site again? I know it doesn't make up for the fact that its nearly impossible to finish their sites because OOD and they don't credit...[/quotee5fc51986b]

OC has bad business written all over. I wouldn't go there for $600.

Iloveipods2

28-01-2006 14:08:36

maybe freepay should send an extra controller, it may not be worth that extra $75 that OC is giving, but it's still something to show the freepay values our patience D

Cow-Tipper

28-01-2006 14:13:25

i pmed jake about it asking if we would get some type of compensation for the "deluxe" remote that early buyers of the 360 premium got and he said he would ask his superiors about it

Gigante

28-01-2006 18:23:23

[quote28d8e9a908="Wolfeman"]Does this really make anyone want to do an OC site again? I know it doesn't make up for the fact that its nearly impossible to finish their sites because OOD and they don't credit...[/quote28d8e9a908]

I have actually started not one, but three OC sites within the last week. Why? Because Freepay's lack of response to the 360 issue and slow crediting. I have lost a lot of my faith in Freepay's ability to keep up with their customers. I don't know if they need to hire more staff, or manage them better, or expend outside of their realm and consider ideas such as paypal/giftcards for their late shipping items, but it wouldn't be a bad option. I have given up on getting an xbox 360 from them anytime soon, and really feel I shouldn't have tried so hard to finish their ps3 site.

Drummer16161616

28-01-2006 20:28:39

Damnit i wish they could just send money. SOOO many places have them in stock around me.

Crynos

28-01-2006 22:42:18

[quote774bc9c86d="Cow-Tipper"]i pmed jake about it asking if we would get some type of compensation for the "deluxe" remote that early buyers of the 360 premium got and he said he would ask his superiors about it[/quote774bc9c86d]It would be weak if we didnt, it said we would get it in the description

Fugger

29-01-2006 01:24:29

I guess everyone is too young to remember FreePay (Gratis when this happened) hit a huge iPod shortage and began offering HP iPods as an alternative.

Freepay has shown that if they are able to make something other than the initial offered product avaliable, they will.

[quoteb911f7c4e1="awake33"] Every and anything awake33 has said in any thread[/quoteb911f7c4e1]

I've worked several years in customer service and there is one thing that I've learned You can't win an arguement with an idiot. You don't want to use a Freepay site again? Well good for you. Less of a headache for Freepay, and us for the constant (and only) bashing posts that'd be created.

Tholek

29-01-2006 05:36:49

As someone who has done sites from both companies, I can honestly tell you that there's something fishy with OC crediting, and I don't mean OsOD either. The difference between each companies yellow to green ratio is so vast, it's stunning.

Whichever theory behind that you adhere to, you have to admit that it's 10 times more difficult to finish a OC site compared to a Freepay one. That's a fact. (

justinag06

29-01-2006 06:59:29

hey maybe if we all stop bitching and just wait patiently we might get a game or something too.

Gigante

29-01-2006 08:19:14

Either way, whatever we do, the outcome and wait will most likely be the same. Some like to post and feel as if they are actively doing something to get their item and some are lazy/don't care. Whatever they choose, that is their choice. That is just the way they are.

jMuss

29-01-2006 08:24:31

Im not complaining but like a lot of you I wont be doing a Freepay site again, unless something is done to compensate their customers for the poor service.

Gigante

29-01-2006 08:51:09

Freepay doesn't really care if we don't do another of their sites because they have enough volume. They are the only freebie site out there to run their own affiliate program directly with advertisers, which allows them better rates than the other sites. You can see this at GratisInternet.com. It is all about the principle of the the thing. They aren't really caring about the customers. Even if we do lose them money on each of our completions, we are a very small fraction of their business and barely put a dint in their profits. While we are a small fraction of their business, we are the largest organized group of customers, which makes us the easiest to contact and offer support for. Since they have the easiest access to us and to please us, that should, in my mind, make them want to do so. But of course, that is just my opinion.

Fugger

29-01-2006 12:01:09

[quote4dff8017c4="jMuss"]Im not complaining but like a lot of you I wont be doing a Freepay site again, unless something is done to compensate their customers for the poor service.[/quote4dff8017c4]

This is turning into a pretty fickle crowd.

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Drummer16161616

29-01-2006 15:20:29

[quote772cea7d07="justinag06"]hey maybe if we all stop bitching and just wait patiently we might get a game or something too.[/quote772cea7d07]

No, they should ship a media remote along with it because i dont think the premiums still have them.

J4320

29-01-2006 15:27:28

[quotecd117a555b="Drummer16161616"][quotecd117a555b="justinag06"]hey maybe if we all stop bitching and just wait patiently we might get a game or something too.[/quotecd117a555b]

No, they should ship a media remote along with it because i dont think the premiums still have them.[/quotecd117a555b]

Yeah they better because the premiums don't have them anymore. And it says on Freepay that that's what they'll include.

So if they don't, I'd be really disappointed in Freepay.

hrdfarkr

29-01-2006 15:33:32

they could always buy each of us the Harmony XBOX remote

J4320

29-01-2006 15:41:03

[quotee73894e51c="hrdfarkr"]they could always buy each of us the Harmony XBOX remote[/quotee73894e51c]

Is that better?

silentsteel420

29-01-2006 15:47:11

[quote07649075e9="J4320"][quote07649075e9="hrdfarkr"]they could always buy each of us the Harmony XBOX remote[/quote07649075e9]

Is that better?[/quote07649075e9]

it's a $130 universal remote with a programmable LCD display that works with the 360

RoBsTaMaCk

30-01-2006 00:36:59

I totally agree with Flip21 regarding a free-market system in America.

However, before everyone backordered on Xbox360s.Freepay starts freaking out you should instead consider the following
1.) [b75e6dfa84a]OC is offering the cash alternative[/b75e6dfa84a]
2.) [b75e6dfa84a]Lately OC has gotten a harsh rap from this community and may be doing this as a publicity stunt in light of the Freepay shortage.[/b75e6dfa84a] OC knows that the loyal Freepay fanbase is getting stirred up over the shortage and is offering a substantial cash alternative in an attempt to fuel the fire. In theory they may be able to steer people away from doing other Freepay sites that award free gifts before they are released (such as PS3s.Freepay).
3.) [b75e6dfa84a]OC is/was notorious for Offers of Doom.[/b75e6dfa84a] I personally don't know whether or not they still employ the OOD for your last few refs. Are you willing to start one of their sites and risk this possibility?
4.) [b75e6dfa84a]The amount of people who completed OC's Xbox 360's site is probably a drop in the bucket compared to Xbox360s.Freepay.[/b75e6dfa84a] Based on what I've read in these forums Freepay sites are SUBSTANTIALLY easier to complete than OC sites. If barely anyone completes OC's Xbox 360 site, OC can go and offer a $475 cash alternative to an Xbox 360 because the cost to them will be neglible. If Freepay offered a $475 cash alternative on their Xbox360s.Freepay site they'd go broke because of the sheer amount of completions on that site.

At the end of the day Freepay is still a business and requires a long-term profit to keep running. Please do not fool yourself into thinking that Freepay simply doesn't care or is doing nothing to alleviate the problem. They do not like you being unhappy just as much as you do not like yourself being unhappy. Freepay is not in business with the intention of holding unhappy customers. Realize that the shortage of Xbox 360's is not limited to Freepay but is affecting everyone right now. On the other hand, Freepay is still reponsible for procuring a supply for their freebie customers just as much as retail outlets are responsible for procuring a supply for their paying customers.

justinag06

30-01-2006 04:26:46

[quoteb2bd7ca1a8="silentsteel420"][quoteb2bd7ca1a8="J4320"][quoteb2bd7ca1a8="hrdfarkr"]they could always buy each of us the Harmony XBOX remote[/quoteb2bd7ca1a8]

Is that better?[/quoteb2bd7ca1a8]

it's a $130 universal remote with a programmable LCD display that works with the 360[/quoteb2bd7ca1a8]

i'd just as soon take a game then the remote. Is it gay like the xbox where you cant watch movies unless you have a remote? Or does it work like PS2 where you just use the controller.

Gigante

30-01-2006 06:34:16

[quotebf2a6016d6]
2.) [bbf2a6016d6]Lately OC has gotten a harsh rap from this community and may be doing this as a publicity stunt in light of the Freepay shortage.[/bbf2a6016d6] [/quotebf2a6016d6]

I haven't really heard anybody complain in a while. Why? Because it is old news. a majority of their new sites such as mobilephones, nanos and video ipods doesn't have OOD.

kevxross

30-01-2006 07:08:47

[quotec7af83d4b3="justinag06"]i'd just as soon take a game then the remote. Is it gay like the xbox where you cant watch movies unless you have a remote? Or does it work like PS2 where you just use the controller.[/quotec7af83d4b3]

I haven't tried it, but I'm pretty sure you can watch dvds without the remote. What I like about the remote is the On/Off button, something that was severely lacking from the original Xbox remote. That coupled with wireless controllers means my lazy ass doesn't have to get up at all! D

firegate

30-01-2006 09:35:17

[quote07d79b040c="kevxross"][quote07d79b040c="justinag06"]i'd just as soon take a game then the remote. Is it gay like the xbox where you cant watch movies unless you have a remote? Or does it work like PS2 where you just use the controller.[/quote07d79b040c]

I haven't tried it, but I'm pretty sure you can watch dvds without the remote. What I like about the remote is the On/Off button, something that was severely lacking from the original Xbox remote. That coupled with wireless controllers means my lazy ass doesn't have to get up at all! D[/quote07d79b040c]

Actually, you still don't need the remote. The wireless controllers have an on/off button (actually the xbox guide button) on them! The remote still has some advantages when watching movies, etc. but you can still be lazy without it )

Flip21

30-01-2006 12:37:26

I'd just as soon take the money and be done with this debacle.

Drummer16161616

30-01-2006 13:36:57

Yea, freepay could afford to send us a remote on the side especially since they have been making massive interest off all the money we made them in the past 7 months. ;)

CougarKid

30-01-2006 15:08:45

Wasn't the remote included?

KeithA

30-01-2006 16:29:32

[quote86c2471e46="CougarKid"]Wasn't the remote included?[/quote86c2471e46]

The media remote was a bonus in the earliest shipments of Premium 360s. (For example, the one I got from every10minutes.com had one.) Later shipments didn't include it.

austin01

30-01-2006 17:00:21

The remotes are no longer included. I bought an Xbox 360 two days ago at best buy(9 premiums just sitting there) and it did not come with a remote.

CougarKid

30-01-2006 17:04:41

Are we at least going to be able to use the controller this time around?

Crynos

30-01-2006 19:22:50

[quote17714134c5="KeithA"][quote17714134c5="CougarKid"]Wasn't the remote included?[/quote17714134c5]

The media remote was a bonus in the earliest shipments of Premium 360s. (For example, the one I got from every10minutes.com had one.) Later shipments didn't include it.[/quote17714134c5]However, freepay said the remote was included in the description.

Alien Zulu

30-01-2006 22:55:59

[quote67a163fb67="Crynos"][quote67a163fb67="KeithA"][quote67a163fb67="CougarKid"]Wasn't the remote included?[/quote67a163fb67]

The media remote was a bonus in the earliest shipments of Premium 360s. (For example, the one I got from every10minutes.com had one.) Later shipments didn't include it.[/quote67a163fb67]However, freepay said the remote was included in the description.[/quote67a163fb67]

still says it too

VGM

31-01-2006 01:39:04

the remote will be included, as it's in freepay's site description. I'm sure they will also compensate us for the long wait. They are known for being good to their customers for their troubles, and not to lie about what's in the packages (instead include more).

KeithA

31-01-2006 04:24:08

[quote62c4fe9b49="Crynos"][quote62c4fe9b49="KeithA"]The media remote was a bonus in the earliest shipments of Premium 360s. (For example, the one I got from every10minutes.com had one.) Later shipments didn't include it.[/quote62c4fe9b49]

However, freepay said the remote was included in the description.[/quote62c4fe9b49]

But remember, Freepay's description was based on limited information. Microsoft didn't make it clear that the media remote was a "bonus" to be included in only the earliest shipments; Freepay may have expected Microsoft to ship [i62c4fe9b49]every[/i62c4fe9b49] premium package with a remote.

[quote62c4fe9b49="VGM"]the remote will be included, as it's in freepay's site description.[/quote62c4fe9b49]

Maybe, maybe not. If Microsoft didn't manufacture enough remotes, Freepay WILL NOT include the original bonus media remote. They may include a different remote, otherwise compensate users for Microsoft's decision to stop shipping the bonus media remote, or choose not to compensate users at all.

The important thing to remember is that Freepay does not control Microsoft's manufacturing capabilities. We can all agree that what Freepay does is tantamount to magic, but simply because Freepay's website says the Premium Package is coming with a media remote doesn't make it so.

ilanbg

31-01-2006 04:29:19

[quoteb28f63b5f7="VGM"]the remote will be included, as it's in freepay's site description. I'm sure they will also compensate us for the long wait. They are known for being good to their customers for their troubles, and not to lie about what's in the packages (instead include more).[/quoteb28f63b5f7]

Examples?

KeithA

31-01-2006 06:00:27

[quote99b894e86b="ilanbg"][quote99b894e86b="VGM"]the remote will be included, as it's in freepay's site description. I'm sure they will also compensate us for the long wait. They are known for being good to their customers for their troubles, and not to lie about what's in the packages (instead include more).[/quote99b894e86b]

Examples?[/quote99b894e86b]

If you mouse-over the image of the 360 at xbox360s.freepay.com, you get this

[quote99b894e86b]Xbox 360 - Premium Edition

li 20GB detachable hard drive
li Wireless controller
li Wireless Xbox Live headset
li HD game displays on HDTVs
li High-definition AV and Ethernet cables
li [b99b894e86b]Xbox 360 Media Remote Control[/b99b894e86b]
li Detachable faceplate
li Xbox Live Silver membership
li Stream media from portable music devices & Windows XP PCs
li 512 MB of GDDR3 RAM
li 3 symmetrical cores - 3.2GHz each
li 500MHz ATI graphics processor
li 12x dual-layer DVD drive that supports DVD, DVD+-R/RW, CD-R/RW, WMA & MP3
li Built-in Ethernet port
li 2 memory unit slots
li 3 USB 2.0 ports
li Wi-Fi ready 802.11a, b & g

[/quote99b894e86b]

Gigante

31-01-2006 06:17:56

I think he meant examples of this part
[quote1575e92664]They are known for being good to their customers for their troubles, and not to lie about what's in the packages (instead include more).[/quote1575e92664]

It was known that Premium Xbox360's would not be shipped with remotes after December. They actually went a bit beyond that and they were still shipping into the beginning of January. Remotes can be bought seperately and I always see them, but they shouldn't be a poblem for freepay to get.

drunkmonkey

31-01-2006 07:10:21

[quoteaca5379bfa="Gigante"]Remotes can be bought seperately and I always see them, but they shouldn't be a problem for freepay to get.[/quoteaca5379bfa]

Then again, neither should a few 360's...

VGM

31-01-2006 10:04:01

[quote36b0df0333="KeithA"][quote36b0df0333="Crynos"][quote36b0df0333="KeithA"]The media remote was a bonus in the earliest shipments of Premium 360s. (For example, the one I got from every10minutes.com had one.) Later shipments didn't include it.[/quote36b0df0333]

However, freepay said the remote was included in the description.[/quote36b0df0333]

But remember, Freepay's description was based on limited information. Microsoft didn't make it clear that the media remote was a "bonus" to be included in only the earliest shipments; Freepay may have expected Microsoft to ship [i36b0df0333]every[/i36b0df0333] premium package with a remote.

[quote36b0df0333="VGM"]the remote will be included, as it's in freepay's site description.[/quote36b0df0333]

Maybe, maybe not. If Microsoft didn't manufacture enough remotes, Freepay WILL NOT include the original bonus media remote. They may include a different remote, otherwise compensate users for Microsoft's decision to stop shipping the bonus media remote, or choose not to compensate users at all.

The important thing to remember is that Freepay does not control Microsoft's manufacturing capabilities. We can all agree that what Freepay does is tantamount to magic, but simply because Freepay's website says the Premium Package is coming with a media remote doesn't make it so.[/quote36b0df0333]

Do you guys even know anything about xbox 360's? People here are still saying you can't find xbox 360's in stores...and that's BS. For your information, you can buy the bonus media remote in any store for around 20 bucks. Last time I was at best buy, they had about 10-20 of them on the shelf and probably more in back. This is like saying microsoft might not make enough controllers so everyone wil only be able to have one.

VGM

31-01-2006 10:04:56

[quotefbb1248ce3="ilanbg"][quotefbb1248ce3="VGM"]the remote will be included, as it's in freepay's site description. I'm sure they will also compensate us for the long wait. They are known for being good to their customers for their troubles, and not to lie about what's in the packages (instead include more).[/quotefbb1248ce3]

Examples?[/quotefbb1248ce3]

How long have you been around the freepay scene? When they were having trouble getting gaming systems out, they ended up throwing in a game I do believe. And those people didn't have to wait anywhere NEAR as long as the xbox 360 people have.

ilanbg

31-01-2006 12:10:21

[quotee84c6af0e9="VGM"][quotee84c6af0e9="ilanbg"][quotee84c6af0e9="VGM"]the remote will be included, as it's in freepay's site description. I'm sure they will also compensate us for the long wait. They are known for being good to their customers for their troubles, and not to lie about what's in the packages (instead include more).[/quotee84c6af0e9]

Examples?[/quotee84c6af0e9]

How long have you been around the freepay scene? When they were having trouble getting gaming systems out, they ended up throwing in a game I do believe. And those people didn't have to wait anywhere NEAR as long as the xbox 360 people have.[/quotee84c6af0e9]

I haven't been a freebier for very long compared to you, but I just wanted some specific examples nonetheless.

phunkstar

31-01-2006 14:25:09

Freepay is garbage. They are using their leverage as #1 to shit on their current consumer base. The problems I've had with them are too numerous to mention without putting myself in a rage. I truly regret starting any of Freepay's sites. Once I get my current batch finished (due to already having a significant investment in paying referrals), I will NEVER do another Freepay site again.

OC & Trainn are far, far superior (at this moment in time).

Wolfeman

31-01-2006 14:27:47

Yeah I'd rather do an OC site where they put you on hold for no reason, refuse to credit offers, and make your last 3 refs pay $50+. Sounds much better roll roll roll

drunkmonkey

31-01-2006 14:29:47

[quote5f5059cf7c="Wolfeman"]Yeah I'd rather do an OC site where they put you on hold for no reason, refuse to credit offers, and make your last 3 refs pay $50+. Sounds much better roll roll roll[/quote5f5059cf7c]

I'd rather have crappy customer service and a freebie than great customer service and no freebie.

phunkstar

31-01-2006 14:33:08

I'm not arguing with anyone about which company is "better". Simply relaying my own personal experience in the freebie scene (all of which has occured within the last 45 days). It can be taken at face value or simply ignored...

Wolfeman

31-01-2006 14:33:14

You won't get your gift on OC. Look at the Brag Bag, its so rare to see a OC brag thread now. OC used to be good but now they are lame...

aforashleigh

31-01-2006 15:39:33

[quote5fd798f254="phunkstar"]Freepay is garbage. They are using their leverage as #1 to shit on their current consumer base. The problems I've had with them are too numerous to mention without putting myself in a rage. I truly regret starting any of Freepay's sites. Once I get my current batch finished (due to already having a significant investment in paying referrals), I will NEVER do another Freepay site again.

OC & Trainn are far, far superior (at this moment in time).[/quote5fd798f254]

LOL i hope ur kidding. OC is soooooo bad. They DQ everyone without any reason after they just got 18 referrals. Trainn took a month to even respond to my missing credit report. Freepay is far superior, except for the fact that they haven't gotten the 360's out already which is not entirely their fault.

Tholek

31-01-2006 15:42:46

The OsOD for the last few refs IS a killer. (

h3x

03-02-2006 14:03:57

[quoted14f035628="ilanbg"]drunkmonkey, if you don't like Communist America, gtfu.
wink

I really hope freepay does this as well. It's not likely though.[/quoted14f035628]

I love Communist America.

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ilanbg

03-02-2006 14:22:07

Heh heh heh...

Other than a newb-friendly interface and very good domain names, Freepay has little to offer over, for example, trainn. But because of those two aspects and the fact that they're so established, they get to take advantage of their monopolized position in the freebie industry.
shrug

Tholek

03-02-2006 14:38:37

No, it's not just that...

As I've said forever, Gratis' business practices are [bb0c063f998][ib0c063f998]far[/ib0c063f998][/bb0c063f998] more honest, and honorable, than others.

I say that mainly with OC in mind, although I have no firsthand knowledge of Trainn. (yet)

I think most will say that Gratis/Freepay have shown themselves as an honest partner in the freebie scene, and deserve to be the basis by which others are judged.

Iloveipods2

03-02-2006 19:47:03

sorry guys, but i'm going to back up freepay and OC.

1) whoever states that OC is crappy is a piece of shit. i got credit in less than 1 day, got approved in less than 30 mins and got a free engraving on teh back of my iPod.

2) whoever complains about freepay also isn't any better than someone that whines about OC. i got credit from freepay in less than 5 minutes, also got approved under 30 mins and got a free shirt.

Customer service wise, both truly aren't amazingly great. i've dealed with both. gratis' is more standardized, while OC's is more of "if you reply to them nicely, it's more liekly for them to sympathize with your situation" type. anyways, no1 respond with some arguments against this. this is exactly what i've experienced and strictly held to my opinion. you can think otherwise. o and have a nice day! wink

ilanbg

03-02-2006 21:56:14

[quotef0c809718a="Tholek"]No, it's not just that...

As I've said forever, Gratis' business practices are [bf0c809718a][if0c809718a]far[/if0c809718a][/bf0c809718a] more honest, and honorable, than others.

I say that mainly with OC in mind, although I have no firsthand knowledge of Trainn. (yet)

I think most will say that Gratis/Freepay have shown themselves as an honest partner in the freebie scene, and deserve to be the basis by which others are judged.[/quotef0c809718a]

I agree that they're the most honest contributer to freebies, but that doesn't outweigh their incompetence when it comes to shipping, approving, and crediting in due time. They can't handle all the customers, and I think it's become apparent that they definitely need to let themselves become a bigger company by hiring more customers and dealing with more vendors.

drunkmonkey

03-02-2006 22:17:26

I still don't understand how an "established" freebie site like Freepay can't get their hands on a few 360s, while Trainn's sent several shipments out...I'll probably get the thread locked for saying that though...

Alien Zulu

04-02-2006 10:25:27

[quotef6ece187b9="Gigante"]Freepay doesn't really care if we don't do another of their sites because they have enough volume. They are the only freebie site out there to run their own affiliate program directly with advertisers, which allows them better rates than the other sites. You can see this at GratisInternet.com. It is all about the principle of the the thing. They aren't really caring about the customers. Even if we do lose them money on each of our completions, we are a very small fraction of their business and barely put a dint in their profits. While we are a small fraction of their business, we are the largest organized group of customers, which makes us the easiest to contact and offer support for. Since they have the easiest access to us and to please us, that should, in my mind, make them want to do so. But of course, that is just my opinion.[/quotef6ece187b9]

sweet a company that doesn't care about it's customers roll

nickman

04-02-2006 18:56:39

[quote82bac13c67="drunkmonkey"]I still don't understand how an "established" freebie site like Freepay can't get their hands on a few 360s, while Trainn's sent several shipments out...I'll probably get the thread locked for saying that though...[/quote82bac13c67]

"a few" ... thousand

Alien Zulu

04-02-2006 21:20:22

[quote1fb39cd105="nickman"][quote1fb39cd105="drunkmonkey"]I still don't understand how an "established" freebie site like Freepay can't get their hands on a few 360s, while Trainn's sent several shipments out...I'll probably get the thread locked for saying that though...[/quote1fb39cd105]

"a few" ... thousand[/quote1fb39cd105]

thousand?
give me a fucking break

they probably have 150-300 orders

Wolfeman

04-02-2006 21:22:58

You are nuts. They have probably 200 orders from our users alone. Freepay is the most successful because they have lots of users besides us. I bet they have over 500 orders easy...

ilanbg

04-02-2006 22:51:59

They're an international company. They reach out to over a billion people, probably. I'd say they have a few thousand easily.

Alien Zulu

05-02-2006 09:22:37

i'm guessing thousands of users but very few of them that actually make it to the ordering process

how the hell do you think they make money?
not every user finishes
probably less than 1%

jetblack85

05-02-2006 10:04:25

Didn't Jake say that if they got 200 360s, it would clear out the queue signficantly? I think that hints at the number of orders that are waiting to be filled.

"We are trying to get as many as we can. We have a substantial amount of orders waiting and we are trying to get a sizeable amount of these items so we can clear out the queue significantly. This means that we are not trying to get 10 or 20. We are trying to get a quantity like 100 or 200.

It still hasn't happened."

http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=30939&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40[]http//forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=30939&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=40

tylerc

05-02-2006 10:09:10

Significance is relative.

Flip21

05-02-2006 12:32:48

[quote2c36f3a375="tylerc"]Significance is relative.[/quote2c36f3a375]

Only to a degree.

"Having or likely to have a major effect.

Fairly large in amount or quantity."

tylerc

05-02-2006 13:04:14

I'm pretty sure more than 500 people have finished FreePay's XBOX 360 site (I say 500 because 200 would clear it "significantly", and 200 is close to half).

drunkmonkey

06-02-2006 07:25:18

[quotebb19fa6214="Alien Zulu"][quotebb19fa6214="nickman"][quotebb19fa6214="drunkmonkey"]I still don't understand how an "established" freebie site like Freepay can't get their hands on a few 360s, while Trainn's sent several shipments out...I'll probably get the thread locked for saying that though...[/quotebb19fa6214]

"a few" ... thousand[/quotebb19fa6214]

thousand?
give me a fucking break

they probably have 150-300 orders[/quotebb19fa6214]

The number of orders is irrelevant if they aren't filling any.