I've been put on HOLD as well!

Live forum: http://forum.freeipodguide.com/viewtopic.php?t=17801

xXHasek99

01-07-2005 13:06:34

on freegamingsystems.com

"While you have completed all the requirements to get a FREE Gaming System, we have reviewed your account and referral offer completions and have placed your account on hold. We have determined that your referrals appear to not be unique users. Because we make money from advertisers who only pay us for unique users, we cannot credit you for these referrals."

i only got one referral for this site, a few days ago, he signed up and was yellow for a while, now log in an see him green and the above message. What do they mean by "not unique users"? they think that's me doing the site twice?
if they keep IP logs they can see that we've been online at the same time and he's in a different state... so i can't be superman and fly within seconds! what's up gratis? any suggestions?

Hasek.

theysayjump

01-07-2005 13:37:49

maybe the person who you referreed had already signed up, or someone has already signed up from the IP that he used, or maybe he has created several accounts since signing up.

usually its something along those lines.

donaldpaul3

01-07-2005 13:40:51

yeah, you're fucked like the rest of us. Gratis must be getting desperate.

hehehhehe

01-07-2005 14:16:45

Seems like they're putting more holds on people's accounts even if they themselves aren't involved in the non-unique referrals...

Did you put you on hold even before you went in for approval?

Stroid

01-07-2005 14:32:34

donaldpaul i looked into your situation and your hold is valid so stop accusing gratis of things that they arent doing they arent getting desperate you just are put on hold

donaldpaul3

01-07-2005 14:43:36

[quote50fe529216="Stroid"]donaldpaul i looked into your situation and your hold is valid so stop accusing gratis of things that they arent doing they arent getting desperate you just are put on hold[/quote50fe529216]

I would sure like to know why then? Something must have happened that I don't know about. If it is becasue I logged into my gratis accounts to check my status when I was at their house, that is bullshit. Nowhere in the tos did it say I cannot log into my account at someone elses house. That is all I can think of, otherwise they must have me mixed up with someone else.

Another question I have is... am I allowed to continue with the other sites or will they all be put on hold too?

hehehhehe

01-07-2005 14:49:48

[quote432b614178="donaldpaul3"]If it is becasue I logged into my gratis accounts to check my status when I was at their house, that is bullshit. [/quote432b614178]
That would do it.

donaldpaul3

01-07-2005 14:52:42

[quotee38fef94c4="hehehhehe"][quotee38fef94c4="donaldpaul3"]If it is becasue I logged into my gratis accounts to check my status when I was at their house, that is bullshit. [/quotee38fef94c4]
That would do it.[/quotee38fef94c4]

See that is bullshit, no where did the tos say you can't check your status anywhere but your own house.

hehehhehe

01-07-2005 14:57:58

I don't see it as BS. Doing something like that makes them think you're basically doing the sign-ups for them, or at least walking them through.

Let's let Hasek have his thread back.

Stroid

01-07-2005 14:58:36

i would not use your dad as a referral and you need to check with gratis about doing other sites i believe you will be ok

Archon810

01-07-2005 15:21:36

i did that for OC and they put me oh hold. after i explained that i only logged in to make sure the referral counted, they let me off hold..

PrObLy

01-07-2005 15:31:43

Don't be surprised if they are willing to take you off of hold, but also make that referral not count.

Something similar happened to me and while at first I was rather furious, after a few days of thinking about it I decided that if I were Gratis I would have probably done the same thing because it really does look like a walk-through....even if your intentions were completely innocent.

I wish you the best of luck, though.

Phbs83

01-07-2005 15:40:12

Sorry, but I find it amusing when someone claims that he hasn't done [b2f06907f25]anything[/b2f06907f25] wrong, and suddenly confesses of doing something that can be considered against the TOS.
If it was me, I would have thought too that you walked through that referral.
Good luck persuading them, and good luck to Hasek as well!

theysayjump

01-07-2005 15:50:25

well donaldpaul3, you have turned GREY on MY freedesktoppc, and MY account has now been put on HOLD because of this.

unless you get off of hold and you do turn green, then our trade is over.

i just hope i can get my account off of hold now evil

Stroid

01-07-2005 16:04:13

yeah i believe all your accounts are messed up anyones that you got your "Dad" to sign up on

prolific

01-07-2005 16:04:29

wow lots of holds being put on ... im on hold for xbox360 as well ... stroid can you check why they've got me on hold ?

if you need the xbox360 account #, let me know

hehehhehe

01-07-2005 16:06:16

Oh god, I think yo guys need to contact Gratis first to see what's going on if you're on hold. Stroid's not your mom.

xXHasek99

01-07-2005 19:10:36

[quote0b9e0d42e2="theysayjump"]maybe the person who you referreed had already signed up, or someone has already signed up from the IP that he used, or maybe he has created several accounts since signing up.

usually its something along those lines.[/quote0b9e0d42e2]

you see it really can't (or at least shouldn't) be any of those things coz the guy that did the ref is completely NEW to this whole freebie thing... so the only thing he could've done is accidently create two accounts, but he signed up for my account with the same email addy which we've used to talk to each other... and i doubt he uses any other email so there shouldn't be any HOLD on my account. the only thing why i'd say Gratis did it is coz he MIGHT HAVE completed the same offer as i did on that site and maybe Gratis doesn't like when we complete same offers, but i DON'T know if he did or not, in fact i think we did a different offer so it's completely LEGIT cry

Hasek.

P.S. i sent Gratis an email, will see what they say. o and if i'm on hold, is it permanent?

theysayjump

01-07-2005 19:44:15

[quoteef4e387106="Stroid"]yeah i believe all your accounts are messed up anyones that you got your "Dad" to sign up on[/quoteef4e387106]

were you referring to MY accounts being messed up? or donaldpaul3's?

Stroid

01-07-2005 20:51:06

[quotef968a39cfd="theysayjump"][quotef968a39cfd="Stroid"]yeah i believe all your accounts are messed up anyones that you got your "Dad" to sign up on[/quotef968a39cfd]

were you referring to MY accounts being messed up? or donaldpaul3's?[/quotef968a39cfd]

donaldpaul3 not you

theysayjump

01-07-2005 21:23:56

ok, thanks

donaldpaul3

05-07-2005 11:03:10

Damn, this sucks! Now they put my gamingsystems on hold, and it was STV! What a cluster-fuck! I'm such a dumb ass!!! http//bestsmileys.com/frustrated/8.gif[" alt=""/img9b67435cd9]

hehehhehe

05-07-2005 11:18:40

Geez, how many of your accounts are on hold donaldpaul?

donaldpaul3

05-07-2005 11:28:15

the 2 I completed - freepsps and now freegamingsystems.

CoMpFrEaK

05-07-2005 12:30:25

[quote55ca806b6d="donaldpaul3"][quote55ca806b6d="hehehhehe"][quote55ca806b6d="donaldpaul3"]If it is becasue I logged into my gratis accounts to check my status when I was at their house, that is bullshit. [/quote55ca806b6d]
That would do it.[/quote55ca806b6d]

See that is bullshit, no where did the tos say you can't check your status anywhere but your own house.[/quote55ca806b6d]

liar, i checked my status all over the place, and i've had no issues with Gratis

Stroid

05-07-2005 12:31:00

that sucks they rarely put people on hold after stv

PrObLy

05-07-2005 17:02:46

Wow, is there something you're not telling us? I also haven't heard of an account going on hold after STV, this sounds pretty extreme.

I have about 6 accounts of people signed up under me that are on hold, but I am not on hold, which makes me believe that as long as you follow the rules you won't be punished. I have checked my status from different IP addresses because I'm bouncing back between my apartment in Iowa and my house in the Chicago-land area and haven't had any problems.

I hope you get everything striaghtened out, hopefully it was a mistake or a misunderstanding. Good luck man.

donaldpaul3

07-07-2005 07:29:25

I was taken off hold for freepsps, but still lost 2 refs. Now I just need to get off hold for freegamingsystems.

uwmarchitect

07-07-2005 08:23:01

Same here...I check my status from people's houses who also have accounts (and have been referrals for me). Never had a problem. It's not cheating if you just use a computer to check your status...just don't do anything else!

bspence

07-07-2005 08:54:43

I was went to a different Province (Alberta) last week and checked my status at his house, and then he asked me what it was and he wanted to sign up, so I logged out, and he signed up. Will I be put on hold? ?

donaldpaul3

07-07-2005 08:58:02

[quote7078465a43="bspence"]I was went to a different Province (Alberta) last week and checked my status at his house, and then he asked me what it was and he wanted to sign up, so I logged out, and he signed up. Will I be put on hold? ?[/quote7078465a43]

That is pretty much what I did (I logged in to get my referral link so he could do it), and was put on hold. If I were you I would get an extra referral.

bspence

07-07-2005 09:00:41

[quote5e6bcff716="donaldpaul3"][quote5e6bcff716="bspence"]I was went to a different Province (Alberta) last week and checked my status at his house, and then he asked me what it was and he wanted to sign up, so I logged out, and he signed up. Will I be put on hold? ?[/quote5e6bcff716]

That is pretty much what I did (I logged in to get my referral link so he could do it), and was put on hold. If I were you I would get an extra referral.[/quote5e6bcff716]

So they can't put me on hold if I have another referal to cover that one?

donaldpaul3

07-07-2005 09:02:44

Well, they CAN, but from what I hear and read they probably wont.

Stroid

07-07-2005 09:02:58

[quote8410ea92df="bspence"]I was went to a different Province (Alberta) last week and checked my status at his house, and then he asked me what it was and he wanted to sign up, so I logged out, and he signed up. Will I be put on hold? ?[/quote8410ea92df] you should be fine as long as both arent signed up from the same place donald has a different situation what he is saying isnt fully accurate

bspence

07-07-2005 09:05:36

Oh, Ok. Thanks so much for all you putting up with all my questions. You guys must be getting annoyed with me by now. I'm just gonna be really pissed if I get put on hold after all the stuff I went through to get all my greens.

donaldpaul3

07-07-2005 09:21:26

[quotef87095478a="Stroid"][quotef87095478a="bspence"]I was went to a different Province (Alberta) last week and checked my status at his house, and then he asked me what it was and he wanted to sign up, so I logged out, and he signed up. Will I be put on hold? ?[/quotef87095478a] you should be fine as long as both arent signed up from the same place donald has a different situation what he is saying isnt fully accurate[/quotef87095478a]

Oh well, doesn't matter anyway since I will never know why I was on hold. I am sure there is a good explanation for WHATEVER the reason is. I am moving on, it's not worth the aggravation.

http//bestsmileys.com/signs15/16.gif[" alt=""/imgf87095478a]

bspence

07-07-2005 09:24:03

[quote19be35a3d1="donaldpaul3"][quote19be35a3d1="Stroid"][quote19be35a3d1="bspence"]I was went to a different Province (Alberta) last week and checked my status at his house, and then he asked me what it was and he wanted to sign up, so I logged out, and he signed up. Will I be put on hold? ?[/quote19be35a3d1] you should be fine as long as both arent signed up from the same place donald has a different situation what he is saying isnt fully accurate[/quote19be35a3d1]

Oh well, doesn't matter anyway since I will never know why I was on hold. I am sure there is a good explanation for WHATEVER the reason is. I am moving on, it's not worth the aggravation.

http//bestsmileys.com/signs15/16.gif[" alt=""/img19be35a3d1][/quote19be35a3d1]

I would know how you feel. I would be so pissed. I put so much time and effort getting my signups its not even funny. I made a .comurl==http://=http:///url website, expained the free ipod thing to everyone on my IM (thats like 100), called a bunch of friends, advertised my .comurl==http://=http:///url website on other sites, and paid good2green $40 to complete a sign up for me (which is still pending).

Sonofshoe

07-07-2005 09:45:44

[quote5f162c04b7="bspence"]and paid good2green $40 to complete a sign up for me (which is still pending).[/quote5f162c04b7]

I think you mean good2speed, but I may be mistaken.

bspence

07-07-2005 09:49:17

[quotea9c97833b7="Sonofshoe"][quotea9c97833b7="bspence"]and paid good2green $40 to complete a sign up for me (which is still pending).[/quotea9c97833b7]

I think you mean good2speed, but I may be mistaken.[/quotea9c97833b7]


oops lol... yeah you're right. I was too busy thinking about getting that last green I need. lol

prolific

08-07-2005 13:58:20

seems like gratis is training their staff to find any reason at all to put your account on hold or in my case making up a phantom reason ... its kinda like those mail-in-rebate centers whose job consists of trying to deny as many people their mail-in-rebate money as possible ...

J4320

10-07-2005 20:30:22

[quotea9342908bd="prolific"]seems like gratis is training their staff to find any reason at all to put your account on hold or in my case making up a phantom reason ... its kinda like those mail-in-rebate centers whose job consists of trying to deny as many people their mail-in-rebate money as possible ...[/quotea9342908bd]

That sucks. I find Gratis to be exceptionally nice.

xXHasek99

12-07-2005 14:09:24

It would be nice if they'd take my account off hold.
My account status changed today, now it is

We have placed your account on hold after reviewing your account and referral offer completions, and finding them in breach of our Terms and Conditions.

... the word "hold" is a link, but when i click it i get this weird error page.

Hasek.

donaldpaul3

12-07-2005 14:42:01

My gamingsystems is still on hold too. They aren't answering any of my tickets. They may be busy, I guess.

xXHasek99

13-07-2005 13:34:17

[quote3b8be435d3="donaldpaul3"]My gamingsystems is still on hold too. They aren't answering any of my tickets. They may be busy, I guess.[/quote3b8be435d3]

it's an average of 3-5 business days for me to get a reply...

as for my case, i just got a reply...

It is against the Terms and Conditions to help a user join or "walk" them through the registration process. There are strong signs this is the case here. I see you were logged into the referrers account right before registering this account. A user may not "walk" a referral through the creation of an account or any subsequent campaign activity on our referral based sites. All users must sign up for their individual account themselves and are responsible for completing the offer process themselves. If a user is found to have "walked" a referral through the signup and/or offer process, all involved parties will have their accounts placed on hold.

... I am smart enough NOT to log into someones account to register them, that's like a HUGE NO-NO in the freebie world. So... did they somehow mess up in checking our accounts and IP addies? how could they come to the conclusion that we were using the same IP addies? I'm not a computer tech so I'm not totally sure how IP-generating works, but could it be that we're both behind a router that gives out the same IP address???

Hasek.

P.S. anyone know if this is permanent hold or is there any way to get off of it?

hehehhehe

13-07-2005 14:39:40

Are you guys in the same location or something?

It seems like they're saying that they saw you logged in to your account (you are the referrer, right?), right before this account was created. But is 'this account' is yours, or your referral's? I'm confused...

xXHasek99

13-07-2005 14:56:46

I gave him my link, he signed up under me. I dunno what Gratis wants from me LoL.

Hasek.

hehehhehe

13-07-2005 15:52:50

Did you check your account on the same pc just before he signed up? Are you guys in the same location?

J4320

13-07-2005 15:53:46

Gratis hates cheshire cats.

xXHasek99

13-07-2005 16:16:36

[quote985eb9ddbc="J4320"]Gratis hates cheshire cats.[/quote985eb9ddbc]

LoL... yeah man, that must be the reason lol

... and no hehehhehe, he didn't log into my account and i didn't log into his account, everything's clean bro... I live in NY, he lives in PA... maybe i've been checking (logged into) my account when he was in the process of signing up, although i doubt it, and that can't really get me on hold, can it?

Hasek.

hehehhehe

13-07-2005 16:47:41

[quotee818f4f8fc="xXHasek99"]
maybe i've been checking (logged into) my account when he was in the process of signing up, although i doubt it, and that can't really get me on hold, can it?
[/quotee818f4f8fc]

It sounds like that's what they're saying in their email...

xXHasek99

13-07-2005 21:46:07

[quote2fdea817a0="hehehhehe"][quote2fdea817a0="xXHasek99"]
maybe i've been checking (logged into) my account when he was in the process of signing up, although i doubt it, and that can't really get me on hold, can it?
[/quote2fdea817a0]

It sounds like that's what they're saying in their email...[/quote2fdea817a0]

Damn, if that's what they mean then WTF? My pc is on 24/7... and if i kept the site open and left somewhere, does that automatically make me a cheater?

xXHasek99

15-07-2005 21:28:37

ok, so i explained to them why i was online at the same time as the kid who signed up under me, i told them that i was running a Counter-Strike server and was playing with my friends, and occasionally minimized it to refresh and see if my ref signed up, which is all true, and the still told me to fuck off...

Thank you for explaining your self. But unfortunately we are unable to take you off hold. We should be in touch with you, if there is any change. Thank you

... wtf am i supposed to do now? that's it, Gratis can't be reasoned with anymore?!?

should i continue submitting support tickets?

Hasek.

xXHasek99

19-07-2005 02:06:06

[quote66c076fe2b="donaldpaul3"]yeah, you're fucked like the rest of us. Gratis must be getting desperate.[/quote66c076fe2b]

i think ur right... btw, just read their TOS...

If an account on any Gratis Internet website is placed on hold, all other accounts across all Gratis Internet websites created by that individual may be placed on hold as well. Moreover, all orders from any account created or connected to this individual may be frozen and the user will be unable to order from any of the Gratis Internet websites.

so yeah... but i have no idea why one of their reps told me otherwise... and my other accounts aren't on HOLD.

CoMpFrEaK

19-07-2005 02:46:54

[quote2a6754911c="xXHasek99"]ok, so i explained to them why i was online at the same time as the kid who signed up under me, i told them that i was running a Counter-Strike server and was playing with my friends, and occasionally minimized it to refresh and see if my ref signed up, which is all true, and the still told me to fuck off...

Thank you for explaining your self. But unfortunately we are unable to take you off hold. We should be in touch with you, if there is any change. Thank you

... wtf am i supposed to do now? that's it, Gratis can't be reasoned with anymore?!?

should i continue submitting support tickets?

Hasek.[/quote2a6754911c]

When was it a rule you cant be online at the same time roll

I mean they should want you online at the same time, that would show you dont have two accounts.

xXHasek99

19-07-2005 19:44:20

[quotef249e39651="CoMpFrEaK"][quotef249e39651="xXHasek99"]ok, so i explained to them why i was online at the same time as the kid who signed up under me, i told them that i was running a Counter-Strike server and was playing with my friends, and occasionally minimized it to refresh and see if my ref signed up, which is all true, and the still told me to fuck off...

Thank you for explaining your self. But unfortunately we are unable to take you off hold. We should be in touch with you, if there is any change. Thank you

... wtf am i supposed to do now? that's it, Gratis can't be reasoned with anymore?!?

should i continue submitting support tickets?

Hasek.[/quotef249e39651]

When was it a rule you cant be online at the same time roll

I mean they should want you online at the same time, that would show you dont have two accounts.[/quotef249e39651]

definitely tru... i'll bombard them with support tickets... they gotta get me off this HOLD bullshit.

Hasek.

xXHasek99

22-07-2005 20:32:38

well, just got a reply from them...

From what physical place did you sign up at the first time on our site? Was undlilili@yahoo.com with you at that time? Our database indicates that you were logged into undlilili@yahoo.com's account right before you created your own account on this site. This means that there had been assistance in registering the account, which is a strong sign of a walk-through. Your account still remains on hold. Thank you for contacting us.

... that's the email of 'halfbreed', user who i signed up under, so if they're saying he walked me thru then shouldn't HIS account be on HOLD as well? he never told me he was on hold... and I refuned the $25 bucks he paid me to do it.
I have no idea what to do at this point! who's fault is this, mine or 'halfbreeds'? i'm gonna contact that guy and see if his account is on hold as well... and any advice is appreciated here, i'm totally confused!

Hasek.

halfbreed

23-07-2005 20:01:32

shock My account isn't on hold...I'm going to be pissed if I get my last green and then they put me on hold...

Great news!

You have completed an offer. Now just refer 4 friends to sign up and complete an offer.

You have not received credit for 1 or more of your referrals because they do not appear to be unique users. Remember that your referrals must be different individuals who do not reside at the same address.

Stroid

23-07-2005 20:11:14

did u really do that to a church sign D cause i must say thats pretty impressive and shows some serious dedication to FIPG D

Collateral

23-07-2005 20:13:48

[quote8f2058e4b9="Stroid"]did u really do that to a church sign D cause i must say thats pretty impressive and shows some serious dedication to FIPG D[/quote8f2058e4b9]

photoshopped lol, id make fun of him if he really did even though fipg is awesome

Stroid

23-07-2005 20:22:36

it looks shopped but i figured id ask

halfbreed

23-07-2005 21:12:34

You know if I had the opportunity I would actually do it. But... http//www.churchsigngenerator.com/ heh. I just put it there to see how people on here would react.

xXHasek99

23-07-2005 23:20:26

halfbreed, can you drop them a ticket and ask why i am on hold and whether that's going to put you on hold when you complete the site or not.

Hasek.

halfbreed

26-07-2005 13:19:43

Sent it on Sat. and this morning I looked and Hasek has gone green D I told them maybe to check the IP addressess again, because there was no way he went into my account right before he signed up.

[quote0aed520bfe]Recently one of my referrals, email==xXHasek99@hotmail.comxXHasek99@hotmail.com=xXHasek99@hotmail.comxXHasek99@hotmail.com/email, was placed on hold. And from what you all have told him it seems to be a permanent hold. You claim that he logged into my account just before he created his own? This isn't the case, because I never gave him my password or anything of the nature. He knew what he had to do, I didn't walk him through the process. Maybe you all can check the IP addresses again? I may have been logged in when he created his, but that's only because sometimes I just idle on websites. Or I was waiting to see if he showed up. I'm also curious if this isn't resolved and he stays on hold, will this affect my account at all?
[/quote0aed520bfe]

And holy shit! When I went to the account right now they have already approved my account D D D D

ashnapps

26-07-2005 15:28:51

so is hasek on hold or not...that is what confuses me

halfbreed

26-07-2005 15:39:23

Not anymore, well at least he doesn't appear to be on my end of it

xXHasek99

26-07-2005 23:08:13

TAKE THIS MOTHA DOWN! I'M OFF HOLD!!!!! W00T!!!!

thanks to all who gave advice in this thread!

Hasek.