jiggaroy
		16-10-2004 18:03:48
	 
	
	
	is the ipod remote included in either the 20gig or 40gig models???	
	
 
	
		DisastirousMurmur
		16-10-2004 18:05:40
	 
	
	
	nop, its not. but from what i heard the buttons on the remote suck, but il still buy one	
	
 
	
		yiluncn
		16-10-2004 21:03:30
	 
	
	
	they give those for free in 3rd gen.	
	
 
	
		shifuimam
		17-10-2004 09:53:39
	 
	
	
	The Apple iPod remote sucks - get a RemoteRemote, which is what I plan on getting...
The buttons on the Apple remote are really tiny and the clip is so narrow that you can't really clip it onto your shirt, bookbag, etc. I wasn't impressed.
http//www.engineeredaudio.com/products.html
The old version that would work with hard cases is on backorder, but the new one that has a thingy like the iTrip is shipping.	
	
 
	
		snak3y3z1001
		17-10-2004 13:16:40
	 
	
	
	Im happy with my remote. Would have been better if there was a LCD on it. Clip is fine for me since I carry a Nike bag, so i just clipp it on the string.